#arms

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silent flame
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Lmao

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CS is collosal smash right

hushed pine
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Yes

latent orbit
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At what key level is it worth to run skullsplitter? Do you run it all the time or would your key need to be of a higher level?

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And if I'm the AOE role in the party would I still be running skullsplitter?

naive sage
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Ehh you know spiteful serenity doesn't feel that bbad

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I like the cds sync

honest moat
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I dunno how you guys main arms can still play the game. I'm 2740 pwar main, I wanted to run a few 10s for crest farm and weekly crests as arms, spent 40 min queuing in 10 / 11, grand total of one invite, then kicked 5 minutes after 💀 how do you find the will to play

nimble yoke
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don't pug

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only way lol

honest moat
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yea that's the right answer

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but still

hushed pine
honest moat
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lmao

hushed pine
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I always say I will kick their shit in

honest moat
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I had guys write me "big pump" in application

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that's hilarious tho

sacred zodiac
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you're not finding groups queued as dps or tank?

honest moat
sacred zodiac
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ye thats p normal at this point in the season

hushed pine
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Anger is a hell of a motivator

honest moat
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I love tanking but I hate it in pugs so I prefer to play dps when I have to farm

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but I might reconsider my options

dim basalt
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tbf taking a dps war is also just not that great

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I wouldnt take one either lol

honest moat
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yea I don't blame ppl for it

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even as a warrior I don't take warriors because we already have buff and we don't bring enough as a dps to be like "ok let's take another one"

dim basalt
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yup

silent flame
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I’d take one if we already have like

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A cr, a Bl, and a ranged

hushed pine
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Full warrior group when?

silent flame
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Ah yes

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Warrior healer

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Shout them into health

halcyon valve
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motivational speaker warrior when

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rallying cry sends /shout "WE CAN DO THIS COME ON LETS GO"

hushed pine
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Shouts at you, heals you to full

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Bonus points if it's Gordon Ramsay calling you a donkey

halcyon valve
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battle shout /shout "GET HIS ASS!!!!!!!"

silent flame
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True

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Or it’s like aug

naive sage
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Warrior deleted in 11.2 leaked news

silent flame
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Lmao

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Reminds me of a super weird dream I had
It was like a new warrior tank spec but only trolls and orcs could play it

halcyon valve
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ranged warrior spec that is just using shouts to do damage

silent flame
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Yknow those big brute models that those two races have
You played as one of those

silent flame
hushed pine
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If Arms gets a rework in one of these patches I do a high key with SMF

naive sage
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Semi ranged warrior with guns
Hunter from Bloodborne

silent flame
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Just give warrior blade flurry

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I’m sweeping strikes sort of is

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SS now hits 8

hushed pine
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The most SS could hit was 2 adjacent targets iirc

silent flame
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Yea fair

hushed pine
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And it was limited to MS and Execute

silent flame
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Kk

halcyon valve
hushed pine
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Combat warrior peepostudy

silent flame
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Armslaw

brittle pelican
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Passive SS when

silent flame
icy mulch
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How would we play around giga buffing cleave?

astral yarrow
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play a pack "as normal" but hold the cleave after SS ends and carry that into the next pack where you have WB and Avatar ready

silent flame
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Wait we hold it?

astral yarrow
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not unless theres a specific reason to

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(cuz big fuck dam is funny)

modest carbon
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I'd only hold it if there's like 2 mobs that are basically dead already

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or something similar

silent flame
modest carbon
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But I'd try and set up 2 OP, and 2 LB going into the next pack then

silent flame
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Do we get double OP for it or no? (

wanton sierra
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its nice to farm stacks before pulls, and try to set up 2 op (care to not throw ms coz it consumes) pulls must be fast

astral yarrow
silent flame
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Aight

daring heron
gray herald
astral yarrow
daring heron
astral yarrow
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Although my 615 enh doesnt have time to do damage in my guild 10s deadge

daring heron
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been thinking i should try enh too

astral yarrow
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its fun

daring heron
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lots of time left in the season

astral yarrow
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a looooooot of buttons though

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also, half your defensive buttons on the gcd giga blows

daring heron
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thats very lame

tardy crag
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Least they don't reduce ur dmg when u press them

daring heron
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they do bc they cost a gcd

tardy crag
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Fuck true

thick kelp
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dstance costs 2

astral yarrow
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maybe 2 brain gcds

silent flame
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Any other classes you’d try?

astral yarrow
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not ingame gcds

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but the optimal setup for enh in keys is not low key friendly whatsoever lol

wanton sierra
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stance dance should be off cgd

astral yarrow
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Did 6 or 7 keys with guildies yesterday and had a hard time doing more than like 1.1-1.2 mil overall

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get in a shit group and suddenly im at 1.6 cause stuff lives through my setup

tardy crag
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This is true for a lot of classes

astral yarrow
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probably

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coming from warrior that is not the case

tardy crag
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Basixly every caster is like this

thick kelp
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Arms actually has setup smh

astral yarrow
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casters dont suffer from melee threat though

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you can actually dot stuff while tank is gathering it

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you cant as melee

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unless you're a rogue

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🙂

thick kelp
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me when charge tclap to rend spread

tardy crag
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U can prob clap most the time and not get agro unless Ur tank legit body pulled

thick kelp
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but I pull aggro

astral yarrow
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bro im pressing WW and getting slapped

tardy crag
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Tank issue hmmNod

astral yarrow
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meanwhile the moonkin is living his best life

thick kelp
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sp 47yard range

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fade on

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vamp touching everything

astral yarrow
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yeah some tanks are worse than others

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monk was atrocious to play with yesterday

thick kelp
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I find monk the best

astral yarrow
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prot war i could send on pull

hushed pine
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If you're grabbing aggro you're doing great

thick kelp
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BDK the worst

tardy crag
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Prob just case of the ranged dots usully not coming with upfront dmg

astral yarrow
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or rather, 30 yards of range means less threat because "muh rpg elements"

tardy crag
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Lol

astral yarrow
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meanwhile us melee plebs have lived with threat issues for 20 years

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wait 15

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fuck

tardy crag
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30yard u get reduced threat?

hushed pine
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That's gotta be bait

astral yarrow
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i wish it was

tardy crag
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Deffinitly remember ripping threat constantly as firemage in shadowlands

astral yarrow
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imagine if you were in melee

thick kelp
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ripping aggro as range is non issue

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enemy takes 30 years to walk up to you

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.D

tardy crag
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Mage usually play in melee

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All ur cc melee range

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Actually lose dmg to travel time

astral yarrow
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you dont anymore do you

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outside scorch shit

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only frost did in legion

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DAE miss legion? @daring heron

hushed pine
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Ah when AoE was uncapped

thick kelp
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legion remix soon

hushed pine
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Good times

tardy crag
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Gotta wait till spell lands to get the heating up

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So sometimes yes

boreal quartz
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NGL

thick kelp
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didnt even play mopremix

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ome

median scroll
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waiting for Thorgast Remix

tardy crag
astral yarrow
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mop remix kinda felt like doing transmog runs

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which it kind of was

boreal quartz
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Ywa

gray herald
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i levelled 23 characters to 70 in mop remix

astral yarrow
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i did every class as well + 3 extra warriors cuz splits deadge

gray herald
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:kekw

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i was just giga bored i dont even do splits

hushed pine
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Remix was fun

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But getting all that bronze pre-buff wasn't

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Legion remix when? copium

boreal quartz
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Remix leveling was good

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Got like 6 brown men out of it

tacit crystal
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ah running around on a holy twink soloing dungeons by myself

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how fun

thick kelp
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np they will nerf remix leveling for the nxt one

tacit crystal
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give us more cancer

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yay!

slow saddle
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I mean if legion remix, plz just give i
Us fast artifact power haha

boreal quartz
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Remix isnt classic

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No artifacts

halcyon valve
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Nah they should bring out the artifacts for remix

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Grind out accelerated artifact power instead of grinding bronze for gear upgrades again

hushed pine
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I second this

fresh spire
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Mop remix very early was fun

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Like couldn't mow bosses down instantly. Had some resemblance of mechanics

rapid bronze
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does the nature damage ring from the raid proc on thunder clap?

rancid solstice
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Thunder clap is physical damage unless you have mountain thane proc that makes it stormstrike damage

astral talon
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There were like 5 diff exploits to oneshot bosses xD

fresh spire
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Before people found ward

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Me and the guildies played properly until we learned of ward

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Then it all became a mrme

livid furnace
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Hi Guys. Is there any general concensus on what Arms spec is best for Mythic Silken COurt please?

gray herald
muted sigil
livid furnace
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THanks Chawie. Having a slightly easier rotation is always welcome 🙂

astral talon
livid furnace
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Apologies, I don't have much current arms experience.

Am I in the arms single target build and just using sweeping strikes on cooldown?

vocal gust
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Dumb question but does Lust effect the number of damage instances that Bladestorm does, or should you not Bladestorm during lust.

And does Sweeping Strikes cause your Bladestorm Mortal Strikes to also hit additional targets?

daring heron
vocal gust
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Huge thanks. I had some misconceptions then and have been wasting some uptimes.

empty sluice
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It worked at start of the season

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Fun detected and it was gone

livid furnace
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Any thoughts on Arms build for Mythic Silken Court?

fresh spire
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Nerf ms unhinged damage but make it sweep change my mind

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Put the power back Into the real st kit and not an aoe ability for st

midnight mural
fresh spire
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Shit feels gooood

midnight mural
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Bl colossuss ?

gray herald
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I was playing colossus but my stats are dogshit

midnight mural
gray herald
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battlelord?

midnight mural
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Thought that was dead talent

gray herald
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no idea i just see bloodlust or battlelord

grizzled granite
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decent for single target

empty sluice
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Go slayer build, it feels more comfy

midnight mural
boreal quartz
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@midnight mural do you also think court is cringe btw?

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Started on it and idk man

fresh spire
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Yeh battlelord feels pretty alright playing with 29% crit

boreal quartz
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Like we have soo many doubles

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I see 2 i soak i perish

midnight mural
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I mean.. holding dps is always fucking shit. I dont really like the right.

boreal quartz
fresh spire
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Best pull I've had so far was around 1.9m at 14% going Into damage amp we wiped to dispel

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I will bet garms

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Even if I cheese with 5% buff

thick kelp
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7% now

fresh spire
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I got scammed

boreal quartz
fresh spire
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13/16 this week

fresh spire
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Fully cleared. Shit doesn't drop on alts

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Insane bruh

thick kelp
fresh spire
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Holding?

boreal quartz
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We prolly see end p1 2nd nightcritcake

boreal quartz
midnight mural
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Boss will die tonight, or we riot

fresh spire
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Same here kong

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1% wipe

midnight mural
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Ooooooff

boreal quartz
midnight mural
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I need to get the kill tho, prepped the best kill-vid ever lol

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With in inspirational battle-shout from yours truly

fresh spire
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Our cringe wipe from last raid

midnight mural
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Excited for queen tho... Im going arms. We have 2 warrs

boreal quartz
fresh spire
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Rng is a blessing

midnight mural
boreal quartz
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Crazy

boreal quartz
midnight mural
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Fury ez pz man

boreal quartz
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Tbf i think i dont tryhard keys enough for it to make sense anyways

fresh spire
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Whole one shit of ranged spiked

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Side

midnight mural
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I prefer arms atm .. for some reason

boreal quartz
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I meant on fyrakk ratge

boreal quartz
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Arms is more fun generally ye

fresh spire
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Arms just feels less spammy

gray herald
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we dont hold at all i think

fresh spire
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As much as bs feels like crap

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Much perfer it

midnight mural
gray herald
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yeah we dont do that thank god

boreal quartz
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Zamzai tryharding

fresh spire
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We full sent in first intermission moment 3rd orbs spawn

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For most part barely holding back

gray herald
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we're getting flamed for not potting when we only saw intermission 2 once last night

gray herald
boreal quartz
gray herald
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im just coping that it gets enjoyable when the boss is at 35%?

boreal quartz
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But i cope it dies fast ye

gray herald
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we should push into intermission 2 below 35 so im thinking execute phase is gonna bang hard

boreal quartz
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Maybe it's a 10 nighter max

fresh spire
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Silken is a shit boss nfl

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Ngl*

gray herald
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i think this is the first boss i progged as arms in?

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idk how many expansions

boreal quartz
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SL?

fresh spire
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Wiping to first grips for 2 days in p2 was greatttt

gray herald
fresh spire
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20 player responsibility bosses are always swamp ass

gray herald
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and played survival hunter in sepulcher

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then fury one trick all of df

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i always hated arms though but im actually kind of enjoying it on silken

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and colossus in keys (+10 only)

boreal quartz
fresh spire
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Man

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I'm taking 3 or 2/2 most soaks

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Lazy fuckers

boreal quartz
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I do 3 every time

fresh spire
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I love when 2 people pixel stack and splash eachother making 3 orbs

boreal quartz
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And perish to invisible doubles or 1 expoding into 4th stack every other

fresh spire
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And you soak them with one stack and it goes

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Good bye

boreal quartz
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And look at the swords doesnt help me

fresh spire
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What I learned is

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Soak two and be stubborn

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People will finally learn

boreal quartz
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Yea i guess

fresh spire
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Went from nearly 400 over a night to only doing 280 last night

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Great success

gray herald
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our ret pala goes horse mode always takes 3 then rages when there's a double

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and we stopped getting doubles

fresh spire
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Good he should rage

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Juat be more careful on Web orbs always as always more stacked than usual

livid furnace
silent flame
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Anyone have a collosus build that does have MS/Cleave resseting themselves or skullsplitter

thick kelp
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pick your poison(key)

boreal quartz
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Poison avoided

eager sigil
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8 mists or dawns

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if you need keys

boreal quartz
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Hate keys

eager sigil
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same

gaunt owl
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doing keys became boring

eager sigil
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i think they are alright but stop making me do them

silent flame
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Also bout to try my first 15

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wish me luck

dire hinge
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good luck!

thick kelp
strange perch
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@boreal quartz league of

latent moss
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@boreal quartz league of

strange perch
latent moss
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waut

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wait

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dawgcheckx is in game????????

strange perch
latent moss
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how do you not know..

strange perch
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💀

strange perch
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can we just play league of please

strange perch
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cimea

thick kelp
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tell me the key

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and i post a builda

minor gust
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Motherlode

silent flame
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Hmm lets go withtt

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NW

thick kelp
# silent flame NW

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Biiig aoe

silent flame
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Love ya

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<3<3

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Ill deffo try it out soon

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It's still good for other things right?
Deffo using it on NW

boreal quartz
zenith warren
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on kyveza in intermission, do you guys save sr as get away from jail free card?

rain cipher
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guys.. in mythic court fight.. do you hard focus add when they spawn? adds in phase 1 takes ages to die in our raid

regal wharf
thick kelp
wanton sierra
slow saddle
woven wasp
silent flame
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I was looking at wowhead for the opener
I can only find the slayer opener
what does the collosus operner look like

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Like this is the normal one

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im not running bladestorm or skull

cloud gyro
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same but swap bladestorm with ravager

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and cleave/mortal strike a few times before demolish

silent flame
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KK
and what CDs do i try an allign
ik i always do SS and Demolish

slow saddle
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Ye and sweepib earlier

silent flame
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Okie

slow saddle
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If its opener

silent flame
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do i always get warbreaker and demolish then

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kk

slow saddle
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No

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Depends on crit

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But in gen i hold my demo.a bit if needed

silent flame
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Alr

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and what about avatar, thunder and ravager

slow saddle
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Its feely though

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Ravager comes up more often due to am

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I tend to just send it tbg

silent flame
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Alr

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ill try a run with it then <3

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ill say how it goes

slow saddle
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Dno if im right

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Collosus is prettt feely craft

summer quartz
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man, dat feel when colossus crits on the last hit. Bellissimo.

sacred zodiac
daring flicker
woven wasp
finite mantle
fresh spire
minor gust
reef glade
wispy kettle
silent flame
astral talon
small carbon
swift crown
rancid solstice
regal wharf
finite mantle
woven wasp
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her holy

obsidian carbon
white crescent
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I only run m+, I’m using thunderclap on st to apply/refresh rend. Is that troll as opposed to actually using rend?

quartz canopy
white crescent
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Yeah cool cheers man!
Also do you even use slam? When I’ve got downtime on a m+ boss I’ll just hit a cleave while I wait for an overpower or ms. Would hitting slam be more viable? It’s not even on my bars atm

snow pagoda
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rend does more than TC by a little Slam does more than Cleave useing overpower buffs on cleave instead of MS in ST is ew

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tldr we slam

teal fossil
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You don’t want to consume it on cleave on st

balmy kindle
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Any thoughts on running more versatility instead mastery for more tankiness ? FingerGuns

quaint otter
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Surely that juicy 5 vers will make a diff

balmy kindle
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copium surely stacking it to 15% will allow me to live

silent flame
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Surely

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Eat your vitamins before a key
Not vitamin gummies
Straight raw vitamins

balmy kindle
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Sadeg Vers is strictly worse than mastery sadge on sims

silent flame
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Oof

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It’s still mainly crit haste tho right? Ofc simming before anything else

balmy kindle
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Like usually crit haste is main but there's allowance for mastery too

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But mastery is quite a fair bit better than vers

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Really wish I can run like 8000-9000 Vers tho for the dr

silent flame
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Ah k k

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Just run what hits the hardest

slow saddle
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yeah arms could rly use some more versatility 😛

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its the thing rets cry about atm as well

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they used to have outlier survivability and 25% versa

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now they only have the first part

slim cypress
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at what target count do we start using cleave?

orchid marsh
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2

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still lower prio than MS while sweeping strikes is active though, until 3 targets i think it fully replaces it

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Is dungeon slice the optimal SIM to run for M+?
I know some specs it works better for than others so thought i'd double check

cloud gyro
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just sim 5 target and 1 target sims

fresh spire
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3

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Replaces slam if fob

slim cypress
swift crown
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Fervor of Battle

balmy kindle
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Aoe dmg is kind of awesome as long as you have crit , might as well squeeze more on bosses

neon niche
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mdtsim is optimal

silent flame
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Funny cause I’ve always seen arms as an ST spec but in M+ it’s the opposite

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Same w Assa

dim basalt
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Assa is a ST spec tho

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It funnels super hard

quasi torrent
silent flame
dim basalt
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If you dont take any mobs into bosses its not good in ST yes

silent flame
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Yea

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But when mobs spawn

dim basalt
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Also, assa aoe is average

silent flame
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I find it rlly good personally

dim basalt
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If youre not taking mobs into a boss so your dps can funnel thats your fault keks

silent flame
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KEK

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I just follow the tank and hope he knows what he is doing

balmy kindle
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Either you do amazing aoe or you do amazing ST pick one

ebon garden
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or play ret

silent flame
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Or play frost dk

ebon garden
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what is insane to me is noosing one point to spec cleave, while it should be baseline replace ww in arms spec

balmy kindle
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Honestly Ret is kinda fine in keys, arms just have too much useless talents

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Cleave taking one point is one

ebon garden
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we are not even taking into account the utility around that 😄

balmy kindle
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I mean most rets don't use their utility okayge

ebon garden
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ret, can heal, dispel, freedom, bubble, shine

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warrior can ... shout ?

balmy kindle
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Rally cry shock wave deadge

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Also int shout

ebon garden
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for what a group CD that does almost nothing ? while mage spam mass barrier

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shock wave is nice

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iam playing warrior beacause i love the class, but damn i fell underusefull from when i play anything else

balmy kindle
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Well I guess we are low maintenance compared to like mage lol

ebon garden
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at least make us be top S tier dps spec for some time damn

balmy kindle
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Mages die like crazy on keys

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While fury is like Rampage

ebon garden
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i never played fury actually

cloud gyro
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good its boring as hell

ebon garden
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i mean 2 hours and then i said bwerk

balmy kindle
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It's pretty comfy on high keys

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Just boring

cloud gyro
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outlaw except u have to press blade flurry every 4 globals

hushed pine
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The game made a mistake balancing itself around MDI

ebon garden
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yep i recently leveled an outlaw

cloud gyro
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u guys should try survival hunter, its hella fun and ur giga tanky

balmy kindle
ebon garden
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was fun for the change in class , and feel new, but in the end it's superspammy

cloud gyro
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plus it does good dps

ebon garden
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the personnal CD are good tho

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then i come back to warrior

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i only regularly play priest and shaman

balmy kindle
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Pretty sure hunters are squishier outside of DR tho

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Can be wrong on this one

cloud gyro
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Nah they have like 20% stam for no reason

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Like DK

ebon garden
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also this, we cant even take the stam talent in class tree

tardy crag
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Feign also sometimes means ur invincible

cloud gyro
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yep

ebon garden
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wtf, we are fucking warrior we should be top Max HP dps tier

cloud gyro
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Nope sadly we are balanced around defensive stance

ebon garden
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haha this troll stance dancing, i dont like that

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anyway , it's still the purest spec and the one i prefere overall (Arms, i really like the prot too)

halcyon valve
ebon garden
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something to align with blood lust also, a +3% crit for raid every 3-5 minutes for 15 sec

shadow ibex
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I had a dream we had a real class talent tree and not just a bunch of shit to path down to avatar and crushing force

ebon garden
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add some "flavor"

ebon garden
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did we get an idea of what our atk shout raid buff add to a melee spec ?

shadow ibex
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What if God made talent trees but put your classes only dps cool down at the bottom of it

halcyon valve
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tbh two-handed weapon spec should not be a talent

shadow ibex
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Meanwhile my enhance just decides on if he wants totemic projection or not

ebon garden
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i can take a kinda rework, like shield + 2h, or 2h + dagger

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just add some utility spell to it

mild nymph
#

yo what if we gave arms warrior 40 yard range

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cus like

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they have arms in the name shouldnt they have long arms

shadow ibex
#

Some specs have to decide if they want nature swiftness for a free instant csst

#

Ours needs to decide on major offensive cool downs

balmy kindle
#

My pet peeve is that for a class that specifies in using big 2h weapons our defense is kinda weak (2H > 1H irl)

dawn rose
#

is there any reason why 99% of dps warriors getting assigend to the blue debuff at court mythic?

empty sluice
#

Youre Not playing webs

thick kelp
#

What if he is

#

Wouldnt be the first melee to get assigned there

empty sluice
#

I wish him good luck

drifting widget
#

Bring back gladiator

balmy kindle
#

unlucky..

hushed pine
#

Go agane

fresh spire
#

Could catalyst belt if you have a shit one

balmy kindle
#

I alr have a socketed 639 belt deadge

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my cloak is the embellishment slot so i am kind of inclined to just grab socket

dawn rose
vital rune
#

okayge that feeling when you hit the Queen ring in our vault

fresh spire
silk turret
#

why do you not take warbreaker over blunt intsruments for Colossus M+ talents?

thick kelp
#

HAHHAHAHAA

fresh spire
modest carbon
#

New Cleave record for normal play, did have an aug though

wanton sierra
#

hye guys, every embelishment can be placed on any crafted gear?

#

i got embelishment on gloves, but i just dropped and better gloves on vault, myth version

#

but now i lose 1 embelishment effect (its the crit one, 80% hp you gain crit)

#

but i got an ring, i wanted to recraft my crafted ring to place my embelishment

empty sluice
#

Why is it in pve still

wanton sierra
#

but on embelishments options says i cant put the same one on ring, is this right?

naive sage
inner terrace
#

ohhh my god thank goodness i have one thing i can take from a vault this week

hushed pine
inner terrace
#

my enhancement vault was worthless

native leaf
nimble yoke
quaint otter
thick kelp
summer quartz
#

man, nothing but poop in my vault this week.

modest carbon
#

I track by %, not stacks

manic river
#

One little question: I'm currently not doing much raid content since my previous group dropped me, so I'm more focused on M+ (although maybe I will try to get into raiding here and there). Right now I'm close to crafting 2h weapon so I was debating on the embelishment. Normally people draw the line and say ascendancy only for raid focus, but my friends are pushing to pick it anyway arguing better players have it anyway.

modest carbon
#

At the start of season you wanted a crafted weapon unless lucky in vault. You didn't have enough sparks to make other stuff, so you picked the best one you could for weapon. That's that one. Can't use the Dusk/Dawn on weapon. This late in season when you loads of sparks I wouldn't. Would still prio a crafted weapon, but I'd either make it embelishless, or recraft it once I craft he Dusk/Dawn ones

slow saddle
#

Rly?

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Id craft weapon 100€

modest carbon
#

That's what I said

slow saddle
#

And acendancy for most keys uptime is good

#

Dusk/dawn is not that great in higher keys

#

So much unvoidable dmg

#

And with ip being so weal

#

It will drop often.

modest carbon
#

Still sims at a dps gain at 60% uptime, which you'll have higher than. Too many dungeons have places where you drop ascendancy

slow saddle
#

Well i guess its uptime in cds that matter...

#

Every boss fight i can think off atm has loads of ticking dmg.

manic river
#

So the other option you mean is non embelisment weapong and suing cloack and bracelets for example for threads

slow saddle
#

Ye

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Both choices go btw

manic river
#

It is true this season has a lot of dots and other effects that makes it harder to mantain your health topped

slow saddle
#

I feel like a lot pf trash has that as well

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Mists trash

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Cot trash

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Nw trash semi. Jumpers and throwees i guess most can be dodged

manic river
#

If you go weapon with embelishment then you don't use threads on anything? what if you go vivacity which is not a nerubian one?

slow saddle
#

Weap emb and the embellishment on bracer//cloak that doubles value of weap emb

#

Most high lvl warriors use acendancy i think, but thats mby coz of raid

manic river
#

👍

slow saddle
#

I guess question id

#

Do u have a 639 weap?

manic river
#

Nope, I'm going for that

ripe quartz
#

How does sweeping strikes 8 yards work? 8 yards from your target or 8 yards from you?

hushed pine
#

From your target

sacred zodiac
#

i dont think that is true

shadow ibex
#

kinda gotta get a feel for it

#

like demolish range okayge

#

Just eyeball your class abilities

teal fossil
#

8 yard from targets means you can hit someone from 13 yards

#

That’s crazy

#

So it’s probably from you

hushed pine
#

For the record, I use the metric system

teal fossil
#

Yeah true if you use metric the spell functions differently

ripe quartz
#

So as a rule of thumb let's say that if you could tab and the second target is at melee range then SS will cleave?

scarlet field
#

Never really hold demolish right ? Aside from opener, it's better to just send it in cooldown unless maybe holding it a bit gets in a ss window ?

#

In m+ I just almost only use it with ss

#

But otherwise send it

fathom shoal
#

its p easy/quick to build stacks tho, im not sure if u would sent it at 0 stacks just cause

#

i save for min 6 stacks on ST, but i dono i could be wrong

shadow ibex
#

on ST i build stacks until CS is about to expire and send it with however many i built mashing MS/ravager

#

in 2 target and above sweeping + ravager will give you 10 stacks p much insta

#

only relevant for the first use of a fight i guess. after that p much every cast will be with 10

shadow ibex
tacit crystal
#

only thing worth to hold demo is warbringer or ava

balmy kindle
regal socket
#

i got sacbrood 🙂

manic river
#

Congrats, you get an egg

#

If you go the route of weapon embelishment + neubian on something else do you still craft a third item (cloak or bracelet)?

smoky kayak
hushed pine
#

From Vault

cerulean dock
#

do we think this website is pretty accurate?

#

i know its not ideal but just getting back into the swing of things

stable swallow
cerulean dock
#

im chronically online

stable swallow
#

I know the site for other classes is ok, but I'd refer to the faq guides probably

stable swallow
fervent glen
#

i miss sweeping strikes animation, blizz plz

cerulean dock
#

what do you know me from?

stable swallow
#

Tarkov mostly

cerulean dock
#

gotcha

stable swallow
#

once one of my fav games

cerulean dock
#

ty for peeping the channel

stable swallow
#

wathced you alot

#

but now tarkov doesnt run for shit anymore so I quit

#

stalker 2 tomorrow tho, im hyped for that

balmy kindle
#

Tarkov is unplayable if you live in SEA or east Asia / oceanic deadge

#

Used to play alot

stable swallow
balmy kindle
#

I knew it was over when my ape friend could buy a subtle wallhack for 20 USD per month without getting detected as long as he setted parameters low enough

stable swallow
#

ah yes the cheating, nice feature

nova marsh
#

Tbh one nice thing about MMos is shit is so easy cheating isn't as rampant

#

(this is OMEGA COPIUM)

balmy kindle
stable swallow
#

I mean BSG is kind known for not giving a damn

balmy kindle
#

Even I was like to my friend : wow why buy EOD when aimbot / walls are cheap as beans critcake

cerulean dock
#

i hear ya

#

this wipe has been lack luster

stable swallow
#

yeah we could go down a rabbithole of what has been wrong with some decisions BSG has made

#

nonetheless tho, it's sad for me cause I actually had alot of fun with it

#

progressing, learning and experiencing it with friends

#

who knows, maybe the future will be brighter for tarkov / extract shooters in general

balmy kindle
#

I only like tarkov because it's a gun nuts game at heart

stable swallow
#

what got me in tarkov and what i still miss is the adreline pumping gunfights or situations you get yourself in. there's truly no other game that does it like tarkov for me

balmy kindle
#

It's a good game when both sides don't have information on one's location and have to react on limited cues

#

Creates some of the best firefights

pure otter
#

Its not bad but this is just stuff u can rip right from raider.io

#

Id sugjest start with the wowhead guide, or the dps faq. Will give u much mroe detailed answers

spark mango
#

guys

#

i'm picking socket from every vault and now i'm full socket with shit vault

#

why is this game like this honestly

#

this fkn spare meathook trinket from Nw i got it 3 times in vault so far

patent ginkgo
#

are we able to swap between fury and arms decently ok or do the stat differences really hinder the two

spark mango
#

with high haste both will do fine

#

and neck and finger swap for more crit on arms should be fine

patent ginkgo
#

any suggestions for a new warrior, love the idea of methodical game play of arms, but fury seems "simpler" for M+

spark mango
#

Both are good but arms needs more effort in dungeons and is weaker defensively, fury is more straightforward and general tankiness gives a bit of headroom to make mechanical mistakes

#

which in turn lets you focus more on rotation a bit

balmy kindle
#

Do also note at bigger target counts you will likely see more throughput on arms

#

Fury kinda feels limp after 5 T

#

The pros is that u won't die

nova ruin
#

have a question- so for arms aoe talent tree, we dont need sudden death anymore since the hero tree has the imminent demise?

balmy kindle
#

If you are playing slayer yes for keys

#

But slayer is significantly worse in aoe though, you have to pray for reap procs

patent ginkgo
balmy kindle
#

Like ATM I am breaking into 11-12s so if I don't feel comfortable I will just use Thane fury

nova ruin
balmy kindle
#

Yeap in keys Colo is better but you can still play slayer if you want

#

Just your dmg profile goes from Cleave to more reliant on reap procs

vast surge
#

when I simmed myself the diff was 3% between the two builds

#

I hate that I have no confidence in demolish actually doing damage

#

slayer is feels more reliable

balmy kindle
#

Slayer is nice if you get big pulls too due to how reap works

#

But you can feel limp when it doesn't proc

#

Cause cleave on slayer is kinda mid

vast surge
#

If demolish worked like cleave it would be so much better

#

or if was remade to be like an evoker empowered ability that don't require a target that would be nice

balmy kindle
#

Well for starters they can make it 1 hit or smth

vast surge
#

They could do a lot but they obviously think its current design is the cat's whiskers

#

This is design prioritising form over function

balmy kindle
#

Prayge for season 2🙏

vast surge
#

I try not to doom but it certainly feels like warrior doesn't get the love it needs.

balmy kindle
#

Would argue classes like DK are too strong for the wrong reasons deadge

#

War and Ret are actually kinda ok in terms of balance

regal socket
#

how exactly is skarmorak worse than khadros mark?

#

one just seems better completely

vast surge
#

at 639

#

They're practically the same

#

presumably mark of khadros on use dumps more mastery in the active effect time and that means you can line it up with CDs and maximise its value

regal socket
#

oh ok im just wondering which dungeon to farm

#

which has higher drop rate?

vast surge
#

skarmorak seemingly but I don't know I got mine from the vault

cerulean dock
opal flax
#

are there any bladestorm centric m+ builds for arms or fury

#

or are those not that strong rn

cerulean dock
#

but this seems to recommend colossus

opal flax
#

kinda rolled a warrior cause i like bladestorm

balmy kindle
cerulean dock
balmy kindle
#

5% damage reduction

#

Lower keys it's not really significant but higher keys this can mean you living versus dying

cerulean dock
#

Gotcha thats what I thought but thank you for confirming

#

I really enjoyed the colossus build which seemed like a uncommon take at the xpac launch

balmy kindle
#

Np. I like colossus as well ( crit demo is dopamine rush as F).

But it does have issues like poor boss damage and being raged starved in execute phase

#

Adding on, arms warrior tends to be very squishy in higher keys as well, like proactively using d stance becomes a must once you start going into 10+

#

While on fury you can be very lazy

vast surge
#

Sad you think we'd have better mitigation being the so called tactical methodical spec but fury can mostly brain off the defensives just like their rotation

cerulean dock
#

this video got me interested in getting back into wow and trying arms more

#

i get so bored playing fury

vast surge
#

I can't really play fury cause my hands have slowed down with time

#

My hands ache after a dungeon

#

Also have always preferred the aesthetic of carrying one big sword into battle

regal socket
#

does the "secondary" color count as having that color?

#

e.g. do these 3 cover all color?

quaint otter
#

its 4

#

and yes

regal socket
#

on the xtra slots

teal fossil
#

Fury runs powerful enrage for keys a lot of the time

#

Arms has iftk boosting haste

regal socket
#

im really doing shit dmg on ST in m+ witih colossus build

#

😦

regal socket
#

i mean sure but it doesnt feel good

serene hollow
#

Colossus relying on execute talents to deal single target damage is a joke

balmy kindle
#

Just press procs and hit blood thirst

quaint otter
manic river
#

He is not using the op on cleave

#

Hmm apparently he does use it later on cleave but not on some

#

And he always sends MS anyway even on aoe

silent flame
#

Sim time :O
Im 99% sure because of my existing trink

#

egg is gonna sim high

#

but i will see

balmy kindle
#

Egg is pretty mid I would say

#

Unlucky

thick kelp
#

egg is pretty good

#

if u play around stacks

silent flame
#

Alright

quaint otter
#

crit neck looks good?

silent flame
#

i simmed and egg is high, but it's over my like

#

fucking BRD crank trink and i want smth i dont have to play around too much

#

it's emergancy otherwsi

#

According to sims at least

#

Acc

#

no

#

They sim the same but one is lower ilevel with a socket already in it
i think ill taken broken memories acc

#

Wait it's crit haste why woulden't i take it

#

im a moron

#

lmao

balmy kindle
#

Its either crit neck or 623 neck

silent flame
#

The 623 was dog

#

according to sims

balmy kindle
#

Let me guess, crit verskeks

silent flame
#

Wow

#

how did you know

#

Actually

#

this was my vault (real)

balmy kindle
#

When you get Vers mast as arms esp deadge

silent flame
#

:(

#

that sucks

balmy kindle
#

Deep wounds is kinda dog but mastery still Sims better than vers deadge

silent flame
#

Vers can be a useful stat

balmy kindle
#

I wished since arms needs DR so bad but oh well

silent flame
#

Yea

#

Also learnt that my uni holiday is like

#

1 month and a half

#

so if i finish all my work (which ill get like a week to do 2 assignemtns"

#

Ill have the enitre holiday to do wow

#

unless i pick some shifts up at work which i might

slow saddle
#

Would u take HC sureki or mythic hands ?

tacit crystal
#

are you able to kill mythic sikran

slow saddle
#

nah

#

but i can crafta 636 neck

halcyon valve
#

two weeks in a row blizzard has been trying to force this stupid trinket on me

slow saddle
#

wont that be better than a 626 sikran ?

halcyon valve
#

still havent seen a glimpse of ara-kara egg since heroic week

slow saddle
#

that does sound kindda Oppressive !

latent moss
#

@dull siren when are u going back to raiding in 43 top 50 guilds on 117 different warriors that are full bis week 3

thick kelp
#

@dull siren when are u going back to raiding in 43 top 50 guilds on 117 different warriors that are full bis week 3

slim cypress
#

does seismic reverberations extra cleave hit give a stack of colossal might?

young loom
#

what do you think, wings of shattered sorrow right? not lucky this week :<

hushed pine
#

Yep, take wings

young loom
#

thanks ill try to sim with it see how it is

manic river
#

Wings is considered bis instead of crafted cloak?

#

Meaning if you don't go crafted

quaint otter
#

its 639 so good

tacit crystal
#

he has it at heroic

hushed pine
#

Between Mark of Khardros and Mandate, which one is more recommended to use in raids?

neon sparrow
#

if it’s 626, L

balmy dew
#

You can also use transmitter but it’s very hit or miss with the placement

halcyon breach
#

It's not though

hushed pine
#

Don't think I'll get transmitter since it's kinda gimmicky. But I've seen Shard is preferred in add fights

balmy dew
#

Also just realized I’m in arms, not fury

halcyon breach
#

Transmitter is not hit or miss with placement

#

You can literally force where you want the ball/pad to spawn, as it always spawns front right of where your character is facing

hushed pine
#

I'll give Mandate a go but I'll probably stick to Khardros/Shard afterwards. Thanks for the input lads okayge

balmy dew
#

You’re welcome

dull siren
fresh spire
#

No u

latent moss
#

Tmy-DENTarg

fresh spire
#

Real

thick hamlet
#

hero to myth tier chest, or hero to myth shamrok trinket?

#

both sim about the same for m+, not sure which would be harder to find again later

#

i assume the trinket

dreamy egret
#

so season 3 will have Kings Rest most likely as the BFA dungeon im very annoyed to have to farm that fucking weapon again hope it isnt bis

latent moss
#

dw it will be

#

at least for fury

#

maybe there is some special higher ilvl weapon from raid

modest carbon
#

I want SD, fun dungeon

#

Actually, all SL dungeons except Spires is top tier

soft trench
#

the dilemma...

tacit crystal
#

its very simple

#

socket

boreal quartz
#

Mythic vs hc

#

Rekill both

hushed pine
#

And Sac?

#

If so, take necc

dim basalt
#

Its always neck pretty sure

#

HC MQM is whatever

stray crypt
#

Any arms warriors struggling to live on m kyveza with queensbane? Our arms rots pretty bad out there with D stance + spell reflect rolling. He can def be getting healed more but wondering if he can do anything else

dim basalt
sacred zodiac
dim basalt
#

Queensbane is insanely hard to survive whereas the intermission is pretty chill

sacred zodiac
#

he shouldn't be dying too hard if he dstance + spellreflects every charge and then charges back in to IV + reapply some bleed to then leap out

dim basalt
#

Even then it ticks like insane

#

But if you dont BOP your melees what are you doing

#

Honestly

sacred zodiac
boreal quartz
#

Queensbane is a yell at healer angle after u did the spongie thing

#

But he rlly rlly needs to be allowed to go in

#

And press impending Victory

#

Or he's instantly deadge

sacred zodiac
#

relying on bop is insane

boreal quartz
#

Criminal even

dim basalt
#

How so

boreal quartz
#

Well healer heal

stray crypt
#

Yeah I don’t think we can rely on bop but I think going in to IV sounds good, we wouldn’t mind that

boreal quartz
#

And it's not an issue if u use ur hpots n shit accordingly

dim basalt
#

BOP first charge, pot second charge, bop third charge

stray crypt
#

Yeah

dim basalt
#

Not sure where the problem is

boreal quartz
#

When they could live it without even at rwf gear

#

Week 1 no stacking buff

#

There's squishier ppl and ur dying cuz ur not doing things not cuz of class

dim basalt
#

As if there are better users for bop

sacred zodiac
#

idk your healers might just suck then/dont have enough pulls on the fight to adjust appropriately ngl

#

did you look into the external macro Nsky has?

boreal quartz
#

We gave ours to hunter and priest for ex

dim basalt
#

Why hunter

boreal quartz
#

And never did i ever need one, i always dies to skill issue not to healing

#

Cuz he called for it

#

And actually needed it apparently

sacred zodiac
#

i dont think hunters are squishiest at this point anymore

dim basalt
#

If anything hunter needs it even less

#

Especially if its a SV hunter

boreal quartz
#

Im not our raids healer nor paladin so im just telling u what worked for us

#

He didnt play sv

#

BM iirc

sacred zodiac
#

why would you play survival on kyveza lol

#

same dam as bm but you take up a precious melee slot

boreal quartz
#

Importante

sacred zodiac
#

we MUST play 10 melee + 2 tanks + 2 melee healers

boreal quartz
#

@sacred zodiac my old guild is playing 10 melee on princess tn what do u think

sacred zodiac
#

gl

dim basalt
#

Almost like every guild comp is different

#

We dont have a SV but I was just saying lol

#

Hunters are so tanky

boreal quartz
#

Tldr tho

#

Arms dont need it either

#

Check for defensive use

eager sigil
#

dps check is gone

boreal quartz
sacred zodiac
#

i mean to give you credit sending bops on arms doesnt sound like the worst advice but its most definitely not necessary if we rawdogged it with just dstance sr with no severed strands buffs

eager sigil
boreal quartz
#

Bad freaks i mean

#

I dont see it going well

#

I left for a reason ratge

dim basalt
#

Also, juggernaut uptime with bop goes stonks

eager sigil
#

my guild is also like 150 pulls in

dim basalt
#

(if lucky)

sacred zodiac
boreal quartz
eager sigil
dim basalt
#

150 pulls is kinda crazy

boreal quartz
#

Nah

sacred zodiac
#

pretty normal nowadays or

boreal quartz
#

It's 6th boss mythic

#

It's ok for it

sacred zodiac
boreal quartz
#

We did like 120 too 🤷

dim basalt
#

150 is on the upper end of average

sacred zodiac
#

their comp seems fucked for the boss though so it'll be harder

dim basalt
#

fair

boreal quartz
#

U can reset killable but though pulls easily so we just did that

#

So any with 0 cr end i1 we sent into reset

#

It's faster but inflates pulls 🤷

eager sigil
#

hehe

sacred zodiac
#

that boss was so unusual to prog

#

you were legit done if u lived i1

#

just gotta execute it 3x

boreal quartz
#

Yea it was weird feeling

#

Kinda fun tho

sacred zodiac
#

ya banger fight

dim basalt
#

Cant wait for silken court prog

#

Already feel miserable

sacred zodiac
#

my condolences

boreal quartz
#

Court is not my favorite boss

sacred zodiac
boreal quartz
#

But of all the penultimates ive played

sacred zodiac
#

actually hilarious

boreal quartz
#

None are good

sacred zodiac
#

are silken i2 desyncs fixed?

boreal quartz
#

Idk not i2ing yet

sacred zodiac
#

gl lol

boreal quartz
#

Ye we chillin

#

Today we go p2 maybe i2 idk

sacred zodiac
#

idk p2 was pretty chill

#

prep check fight

boreal quartz
#

We have raidplan for p2 rains n shit

#

Very cozy

thick kelp
sacred zodiac
#

drop the guild

#

i gotta apply immediately

steep osprey
#

myth helm has leech

#

pog

thick kelp
sacred zodiac
#

no

#

regarding that pullcount i don't think that'll be a factor

thick kelp
#

dont look at the date

sacred zodiac
#

true

latent moss
#

day0 kyveza killers in chat?

thick kelp
#

@ wallife

boreal quartz
#

@thick kelp Budget wallahi still worth the ping inshallah

latent moss
#

@thick kelp raiding in echoes

thick kelp
#

Do u speak london

thick kelp
boreal quartz
#

That's german

boreal quartz
latent moss
#

wallife in echo = walhe in echoes

#

thoughts

thick kelp
#

Only heard good things