arms

[teal fossil]

We love unholy bursting for 5x the next best spec

We don’t love unholy outside cds

[vast surge]

I had this idea that they should turn arms warrior into class that builds it own dps cooldown

[teal fossil]

Could call it test of might

[vast surge]

And by that I mean the centre part of the tree where you choose IFTK, WB, Blunt Instruments etc becomes sort of 3 or 4 choice nodes that turn CS into configurable DPS CD, it's sort of like that now but add more options to it

And arms warrior plays around the theme of being tactical, so it makes sense to have a highly configurable DPS CD for different situations

[thick kelp]

we already build

am vs ss

: DDDDDDDDDDDD

[vast surge]

What's SS? never heard of it...

[teal fossil]

Spiteful serenity

[teal fossil]

Kind of funny that’s what wings is

[balmy kindle]

Spiteful serenity

[thick kelp]

also ferals already have their "build your berserk"

talent tree

[vast surge]

whoosh

[thick kelp]

same with bear druids

[slow saddle]

Wait are ppl still playing skullsplitter with

colosus ?

is the maxroll build ok ?

no eb no battlelord

massacre + critical thinking instead

[vast surge]

isn't the maxroll build from Archie?

[vast surge]

no, skullsplitter is only used on slayer

[slow saddle]

ah so the build from here was outdated

trying maxroll one i guess

[thick kelp]

CcEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7AYYmZMjZMzsZbZZmZAAAAYw0wMDLDzAjlxMzgZGGz4BYGGAAAAAAAMjZbMGgtAjttZzMLDLGGmZmpNaGgF

[ember merlin]

Hello

2 Questions from my side, I hate slayer build and I only play colossus, are there any better variants than the ones that are on websites? cleave build and st build?

And also, the stats priority on arms remains the same? Crit/Haste? Ty

@me whenever you might answer

[thick kelp]

yes but sim yourself

[thick kelp]

ST build remains the same, for m+ builds you can play alot of different stuff like the build i linked right above your message

[slow saddle]

hmm so not playing dreadnaught ?: D

its a 4% overall

[thick kelp]

sometimes yes sometimes no

[quaint otter]

dreadnaught so fucking bad this season

[thick kelp]

I would play dn in sv or nw

for example

[slow saddle]

i mean 4% isnt bad

on a boss its 3%

[quaint otter]

the soa gives same and more st value

[slow saddle]

i mean on a ST i get 3% overall

from dreaddy

ok i c

hmm op is 16%

hmm ye so that buff is significant

[quaint otter]

run few keys with soa and few with dn

[slow saddle]

do ppl play blademasters torment of just more shouts?

[quaint otter]

compare numbers

[slow saddle]

coz ngl torment is fun

[quaint otter]

and choose

[slow saddle]

im ngl

im a bit low on crit

though i gotta say

thane way better

collosus mor efun

[halcyon valve]

depends on the dungeon and the pulls tbh
its worse compared to previous seasons because of the nerfs, but its still doing reasonable dmg for a single point talent

[slow saddle]

ok ❤️ 😄

just buff dreadnaught back to its former glory

kek

same dmg as op

😄

[swift shell]

I got a question : on princess nexus I always have a timing where I can use all my cd but there is a set of clone dash (might be the 3rd dash of the second phase) should I commit to it even if I can get targeted or should I wait knowing that I might not get the last « full CD » + repot timing during enrage ( because to my knowledge I have my full CD during the enrage)

I’m talking mythic princess obviously

[thick kelp]

depends on the kill time its looking like for your guild

if you can get it down to sub 6min holding is the play

if u end up with like 6:20 kill time, you end up losing a full use

[hushed pine]

Lads, what ilvl is a good level to enter heroic raids?

Asking for a friend

[cloud gyro]

600+

[slow saddle]

well getting in?

or playing in it

coz 600++ will easily do HC but gettin into a grp is prob closer to 610-615 😄

[hushed pine]

Thanks, I'm at 615 trying to unlock my gull potential. Surely I will get invited to heroics

[halcyon valve]

Always send cd
Its the life of a gambler

[halcyon valve]

the pug experience of needing to be higher lvl than what drops

[swift shell]

i've sent a full cd on nothing on last night kill so it was only a 82

and i think my kill timer is 6.50

[halcyon valve]

You win some gambles you lose some gambles

[balmy kindle]

Heroic as DPS non lust, prolly 620

[swift shell]

so i should just keep full sending it like a monkey and pray the RNGesus then

[halcyon valve]

Always keep gambling

90% of people stop gambling before they hit it big

[swift shell]

yeah xd

gambling gave me Rank 4 on bloodbound horror last reclear

sometime you win

sometime you loose

[halcyon valve]

Which reminds me
Out of like 60 pulls total on nymue in amirdrassil mythic
I only got the targetted mechanic on me twice 💀

Actually insane rng

[swift shell]

On my first kill ovinax, 5 cast of Ansurek trinket

0 crit

wanted to drink bleach that night

[halcyon valve]

Unlucky

[cloud gyro]

There used to be some targeting logic with raid mechanics that factored in class/name/range-melee things

I dont remember which boss, but there was a point where people renamed their characters so they wouldnt get mechanics or get it in a different order

[slow saddle]

100%

[hushed pine]

And then they kick you if you have the gear but you aren't the metah

[slow saddle]

Not in raid

In keys yes🤣

I sign as fury, jump into col prepull

An start pressing cleave

[hushed pine]

Everybody wants to be carried these days

https://tenor.com/view/no-one-is-civil-anymore-gif-19001019

[slow saddle]

Tbf, i hardly c dks as dps in my 10s

[hushed pine]

That's surprising

[slow saddle]

Mainly tanks

[slow saddle]

Not rly all good dks do higher keys😅🤣

[hushed pine]

I had a frost dk in a 4 GB. Granted, low level key but

[silent flame]

Did a retry with the luxthos weak aura and actually is rlly nice

So i got it sorted :D
can try collosus now

Would have been ahead of the lock but i misclicked and used leap too soon on last boss

ilevel 615 atm

[slow saddle]

Collosus fun

If way more work than thane

[hushed pine]

4m Colossus crits

[silent flame]

Yuh :D

Im enjoying it a lot and i think my dps was good

not amazing but good considering my ilevel :3

But most importantly im rlly enjoying the spec

[slow saddle]

100%

Im also just doing 10s

So collosus works

[silent flame]

Yea

plus i play a FoTm spec

or FotM rather

[astral yarrow]

fotm spec bottom of meter

[halcyon valve]

We win these

[tacit crystal]

roll better 2h spec

[silent flame]

Also

my dps breakdown

For funs

[halcyon valve]

Susge slayer

[silent flame]

Thought you said sosig slayer

Lmao

[tacit crystal]

dot is most of my damage

[halcyon valve]

🤓 actually not most, just the biggest single contributor

[hushed pine]

Unholy Dk what a chad

[naive sage]

Real Bfa arms Moment

[young loom]

hi guys, on bloodmallet and on sim, the ara kara trinket is not as good as the ovinax egg and the treacherous transmitter, but watching logs most high dps arms warrior play the ara kara trinket instead, do you know why?

[quasi torrent]

cause ovi egg is cringe to use 👍

[valid flame]

Purple sack bad. Red sack good.

[young loom]

haha ok ill try switching my sack and see what happens

[weak wave]

How does Colossus perform in M+ right now compared to arms?
I saw a funny vid with an 11 mio Cleave crit. 🤓

[halcyon valve]

Ovinax is bait because nobody is gonna bother actively tracking and maintaining optimal stacks

[halcyon valve]

Colossus is arms? What

You mean compared to slayer? Its cooler

[mild nymph]

Plurality is the word you’re looking for

Or idk if it would apply out of voting?

[halcyon valve]

It does in wiktionary

Thanks for nerding the nerd

plurality
4. (countable) A number or part of a whole which is greater than any other number or part, but not necessarily a majority.

[mild nymph]

Salut

[remote ledge]

Salut

[gaunt owl]

salut

[naive sage]

When I read the word salut I automatically think about Dragostea Din Tei

[steep osprey]

What are the prios for arms slayer on st

[boreal quartz]

Read
Guide
Now

[hushed pine]

Spinning

Hope this helps

[atomic mountain]

630 club 😄

[steep osprey]

repair

[mild nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-13597132752790194338

[hushed pine]

I love how the word for warrior is "Waffen"

[atomic mountain]

no arms is waffen

warrior is krieger

[hushed pine]

Oh

I'm not good with German

Only word I could recognize is "Health" tho

[atomic mountain]

your cahr also dont says warry arms it says arms warry XD

[naive sage]

Wut made me laugh too much

[hushed pine]

What addon is that btw

[boreal quartz]

Furor-krieger

[hushed pine]

That makes your char screen be the og one

[boreal quartz]

Deja character stats

[atomic mountain]

this

[hushed pine]

Ah cool thanks

[wanton sierra]

2 m gang xD nw doesnt count xD

nw 10

[silent flame]

quick question

is demolisher effected by SS

[hushed pine]

Don't think so, considering it's a cast frontal (not really a frontal but yknow what I mean)

Do people not use Dreadnaught at all?

[boreal quartz]

First few hits ye

[boreal quartz]

It's still a tiny dps gain in aoe but soa is sick for st in keys

[hushed pine]

SoA is best all around I assume

[boreal quartz]

I mean depends what u want to do

Dn has value

But you need to play around it

[astral talon]

First two

Last hit is not

[slow saddle]

Dn is about 4% overall

Not a bad talent tnh

But soa is bigger🤣

[silent flame]

Okie fair
I was Gonna try it next when i have time now im using a wa i like :D

[wanton sierra]

idk my overall with dn is not much... i prefer soa

[high field]

whats Dn?

[dull siren]

😼

[wanton sierra]

dreadnought talent

[naive sage]

deez nuts

[hushed pine]

Dreadnaught

[high field]

thx guys!!

[manic river]

What do poeple think after DN little buff?

[gaunt owl]

i dont think

its easier to move on

[shadow ibex]

It's really just do you want more aoe or not and what else you running

DN and blademasters probably pretty redundant since cleave is every other gcd

[latent hull]

is flame wrath better over weapon with same ilvl

[teal fossil]

On st yes

[manic river]

Have some of the bis items changed with the last annyvesary update at all?

[halcyon valve]

tried the goofy aaah spiteful serenity build in a mists 10
honestly its not that bad actually (1.63m details overall dps in a dungeon that took 27 minutes including death penalty)

but its scuffed entering a pack with avatar, and killing the pack with avatar still running

[naive sage]

Drop it? I will never play it in a lifetime but I’m honestly curious

[halcyon valve]

CcEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7AYYmZMjZmZmNbLbjZAAAAYw0wYYZYGYsMmZGMzwYGDzwAAAAAAAgZMbjxAsFYssNbmZbYzwwMzMtRzAsA

like during all cds both deep wounds and rend tick for >300k, so it does do some dmg, and this week with the affix giving a whole bunch of haste, that is a neat synergy

not sure if i would consider playing this any other week

[robust wing]

Are you ever supposed to use slam in Single Target?

[eager sigil]

yea

[dim basalt]

What else would you press during downtime

[sly venture]

You have to

[eager sigil]

to be fair we used to press ww and rend over slam

[boreal quartz]

not anymore

[hushed pine]

Those were miserable times

Never again

[eager sigil]

ww wasnt bad imo

[hushed pine]

Are we talking about WoD?

[eager sigil]

dragonflight

[hushed pine]

Ah

Ye that was good

[silent flame]

Tried collosus
i prefer slayer a lot lmao

[vocal gust]

Do you get these readout from wowlogs or just details?

[halcyon valve]

Details

[twilit burrow]

DEMOLIEREN
SPALTEN
MANDAT DER VERRUECKT
HINRICHTEN

[gaunt owl]

Todlicher Stross just make me laugh

[twilit burrow]

German funny

Sounds brutal and edgy
Very enjoyable

[cerulean dock]

have you guys tried survival hunter?

it ironically feels a bit like arms

[loud fjord]

https://youtu.be/gMQstep1tgs?si=8MOUuWf536MiyXDw

[halcyon valve]

Sounds silly to me tbh

[fast talon]

on fights less than 5 mins do we use pot at execute or just on pull

fights with only 1 pot

[halcyon valve]

Try simming it
But lust kinda nutty tho

[fast talon]

first 4 mythic is all lust on pull i think

altho its a guild alt so fight may be longer than 5 min

like rash

[boreal quartz]

just on pull

[nova marsh]

Guys

Is there any reason at all to pull Throngus in Grim batol

In the further area of the room?

[regal socket]

what are the bats flying around me?

only this char has it

[tacit crystal]

more room to play with

makes it nearly impossible to die to lack of space

[nova marsh]

I mean okay

But as long as you clear a path, you still have more or less the same amount of room

[tacit crystal]

yeah

also losing the molten flurry is so broken

[naive sage]

Maybe you have some Halloween aura still? Idk lol it’s odd

[thick kelp]

Trinket?

[twilit burrow]

krakenwagen

[twilit burrow]

[silent flame]

I wanna blast down slayer but I’m at work >:(

[untold pewter]

Folks, for Arms on Mythic Silken, is it better for us to be on red or on blue team?

I think we go red team and just cleave bosses but don't touch scarabs yeah?

[silent flame]

What

Oh

Court

[untold pewter]

No risk of colossus smash hitting scarabs that way I assume?

[silent flame]

I thought you meant sikran

I was so fucking confused XD

[hexed latch]

SCHMETTERLING

[swift crown]

Squid car

[quasi torrent]

Squidcar

[vernal crypt]

KRANKENHAUS

[halcyon valve]

squid game!!

[dull siren]

Queen deadge

[hushed pine]

German is the gift that keeps on giving

[swift crown]

Why are you day raiding

[dull siren]

2day weekend guild

[thick kelp]

Fury soooo bad

[quasi torrent]

why dyse no dambur

dyse is human why no dumbur

[dull siren]

died on all cds

gg

[quasi torrent]

gg

[midnight mural]

Fucking knew it - no reason to run double fury on queen anymore. Im so gonna pump that shit as arms next week

Big pump m8 ! Gz

Full st or did you specc into cleave ?

[mint shell]

gz

[quasi torrent]

just play full ST if u play arms

roar + bs is all the cleave u should bring as arms

if ure struggling to kill adds u press n -> fury

[mint shell]

weak mental, here's a channel for u #fury

[quasi torrent]

i dont talk to shit players

[thick kelp]

1 bb to cleave

[halcyon valve]

common arms W

[slim cypress]

is that wowhead arms colossus build still pretty accurate on what people are playing in like 10+?

1.5min roar

[halcyon valve]

yea

[slim cypress]

so most people playing with skullsplitter?

[mint shell]

SKS is used in coloss to make it less shit on single targed and i case of rage starvation. If you're bad at using it it'd prolly be dps gain to put it into sth else

i like it tho, so i run it even in slayer

[sacred zodiac]

Trolling prog is pretty weak mental but go off king

[mint shell]

it's a joke bro, i'm an arms one trick and prolly worse than ur OS arms xD

[midnight mural]

makes sense - not a big loss since most of the ST is form MS OP and EXE

[slim cypress]

do you pretty much use it on CD? or hold for sweeping strikes? or wait till your rage starved? cheers

[orchid marsh]

Hey guys, wonder if you can help me. Been trawling through logs of better players than me (top parses) and I don't see a consistent execute phase rotation being used.
Some people play for 2x Executers precision only then MS, others seem to only cast procced overpowers and MS with 2x executers precision and whatever overpower they happen to have and others seem to force the 2x overpower buff ontop of executers precision.
My question is, is there an optimal way and why are there different methods used?
Thank you in advanced for taking time to help

[mint shell]

i'm not colossus like you and i don't play the spec since i prefer slayer ST/bayblade build depeding on what i'm doing.

pre execute i prio it under MS, but over other "fillers" (non buffed OP, underprio exe, slam). While the hit is decent, the added dmg is the extra rend/bleed ticks so using it be4 smash isnt as big of an issue u'd think. I do sometimes use it under some of the fillers so i dont waste rage because of BS/CS/WB cdr

I try to sweap it and use it with WB/CS but i prio puting it on CD unless i'm up agains 2 prio targets like 2x ascending mob in GB or w/E

During execute it's purely rage management. If you're under 40 rage and don't have OP or roar u SkS

[tacit crystal]

the ideal way would be to get 2 ep and 2 lb

[mint shell]

optimal is exe exe exe exe ms forever and ever till u get 2x 4set proc, but u dont have rage nor CD for it, you weave in OP depending on procs

[tacit crystal]

the rotation turns into 2 executes into execute until lb gambling

[sacred zodiac]

Idk u haven't seen my arms on court

[orchid marsh]

ok, makes sense. To clarify, I should be looking to fill in procced overpowers when i get them, and fish for 2x overpower buff using nonprocced overpowers when rage is lower?

otherwise just ex ex ms?

[quasi torrent]

kaiserlich 0% lockin

[sacred zodiac]

Showed the logs to 4 people best they could come up with is that the other guy just crit more often over 20 pulls which is very motivating

[sacred zodiac]

That's fury

[mint shell]

i go full ST build and drop 1 BB for long sweap. U just play standard 123 and minmax the SS duration and should be 90+

[quasi torrent]

i know

[mint shell]

So in execute, you're spaming execute untill u get 4set 2x proc. that's when u go MS

in ideal and impossible word you'd do just that, but rage and CD does not allow it

if you play OP + BS in Slayer hero than u only use the strong OP proc and do not prio 2x OP buff on MS ever

if u play MS + MS in slayer than u OP only when low on rage, unless u just finished Bladestorm.

[orchid marsh]

ah I see.. so for the most part, the overpower buffs to MS are just an afterthought that come along as a bonus when casting it for rage reasons?

[mint shell]

if u finished bladestorm u wanna stack up all MS buffs for jucy 8 figure crits

[quasi torrent]

yes

[mint shell]

if u play the standard build ye, only use the strong OP procs and only if u're low on rage (and u should be)

[sacred zodiac]

I will simply go thane fury and do slightly worse damage but be infinitely tankier where it matters on a boss that isn't a dps check anymore

[balmy kindle]

average oce pug experience

[mint shell]

ye going from tankyish to gigatanky is prolly the play if u like/dont mind fury

there's only one argument for arms that mostly ppl ignore and it's DbtS + Interveene, especially if u NE but it's like a wipe saving tech once in a blue moon (i'm pounding that argument whenever ppl tell me go go fury since it's only argument u can't rly counter)

[balmy kindle]

higher keys fury is alot easier to play ngl

play thane and auto pilot

[mint shell]

that's the weak mental joke 😄

[balmy kindle]

i do feel thane can feel kind of limp in bigger pulls tho

like it kind of feels your best profile is like 5T

granted, u dont die

[mint shell]

fury shines in midsize pulls, while arms has a small edge on ST and giga cleave with uncaped dmg from coloss or slayer bayblade

[balmy kindle]

while arms can really do some giga dmg in big pulls

[mint shell]

but again arms dies to things fury does not

[quasi torrent]

IP is just bugged man

im calling it a bug cause its multiplier was not raised when they gave everyone more HP in beta 👍

[balmy kindle]

honestly i think thane is better ST now iwth the thane build

[mint shell]

i mean it's shit, but i still use it as a rage dump

[quasi torrent]

the insane thing is

[balmy kindle]

like bloodthirst can easily hit near 2m on crits

[mint shell]

in raid only tho

[quasi torrent]

its same hps if used HARD on cd as FbV on single target

while u have to fucking do something

its silly how bad it is rn

[mint shell]

ye that's why i use it in raids, since i'm overcaped on rage and it's mostly ST

like make it cost 35 rage and have 2x the effect i'd be giga happy

[balmy kindle]

yeah IP is pointlerss in keys

[mint shell]

but it'd be shit in m+ still since there i'm ragestarved relatively often

[quasi torrent]

i feel like its also pointless in raid cause most fights have some random ticking dmg

so it just gets eaten instantly

[daring heron]

they've raised hp and left IP the same several times now

[mint shell]

no in raids for me it's only CDR for BS

[quasi torrent]

while FbV provides the same value for existing

[daring heron]

it's so dumb

[mint shell]

litteraly dont press it as a deffensive

[quasi torrent]

proper dogshit talent ye

[mint shell]

it's just there to make me spend rage

[balmy kindle]

i personally just run FBV now cause IP doesnt really do much even in a raid setting as a rage dump

[quasi torrent]

AM doesnt work with IP

[daring heron]

IP felt rly strong in df s1 10.0.5

[mint shell]

oh well, suxs to suck

[daring heron]

shield was p big

[quasi torrent]

they bonked AM/TOM with IP in uhh 10.1.5?

[daring heron]

ye something like that

[quasi torrent]

some point during aberussy

[daring heron]

Non-exe rage bar has been cosmetic since then

[quasi torrent]

tbf it was cosmetic with WF even with pressing it

cause u mostly pressed it during CS where u had reck anyway

xd

[mint shell]

i feel like in m+ and aoe situations ragebar is still a thing, but in raid ST arms deffo it's just there when u can spam execute

[balmy kindle]

prayge for some changes

[mint shell]

make colossus IP baseline and think of sth cooler for coloss

ezpz

[tacit crystal]

or

make it usable

[silent flame]

Arms is still feeling super hard for me

Idk why

[quasi torrent]

idk IP needs to be better than FbV on single target

[thick kelp]

Hardest spec in game

wcyd

[tacit crystal]

hi walhe

[quasi torrent]

like a good chunk better

[sturdy plank]

hey guys. can someone help with these Stance macro? i didnt work 😦

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

i try this one

[tacit crystal]

#1237307732705415228 message

use one linked there

[digital sky]

Question , sub 35% , is it always correct do to do : Exec > OP > Exec > OP > MS

[tacit crystal]

wait

how did the macro not work?

[sturdy plank]

nothing happend

[silent flame]

Is it though :P
I feel likes it's a simple prio list so idk why i can barely follow it

[tacit crystal]

#449510248579858432 message

[silent flame]

Ive been trying to practice it but when i get into a key i just can't do the rota well
or my dps is bad? Idk, 1.4 mil overall i belive at ilevel 615 MoTS

[tacit crystal]

an overall doesnt indicate that you did your rotation correctly?

[silent flame]

yes ik

[sturdy plank]

nothing happend

[silent flame]

but i don''t have the log or a video of it so tahts the most i can go off X)

[tacit crystal]

how are you sure, are you tracking your stances

also it only swaps between battle and d for arms and prot and berserker and d for fury

[sturdy plank]

yeah i know. but it dont swaps

[tacit crystal]

idk what to say other than read guide and hit dummy + video is extra

[tacit crystal]

i dont know then

[silent flame]

I guess just

keep trying keys and practice

keep doing it until im doing good

[silent flame]

I genuinly

do not know why i thought this tank would be good

joined a key and saw him
he died like 50 times and flipped the cleave ads constantly
the name is the bigger crime tho lol

[astral talon]

ayy we got rotation for next season

[quasi torrent]

NO NOT BANNER

[astral yarrow]

Banner was so cool

[rancid solstice]

i still wear mine everywhere

[hushed pine]

Banner is better than Spear

change my mind

[fresh spire]

real and true

[lucid thicket]

Wait, do they let you use covenant abilities in M+ dungeons for that zone?

[lucid thicket]

We get double blind spear

[halcyon valve]

Nope

Banners will probably be available for tailoring, just like the mists shortcuts were available for herbalism

[fringe moon]

Season 2 dungeon rotation…yuck

[regal wharf]

yeah it seems no one likes it

only one people seem excited for is motherlode

[fringe moon]

Having to farm workshop again for the ring

[silent flame]

What ring

You can only get one XD

If you mean the one that’s like
When you do this ….. ……gain this

We only get the 2nd part and not the first no?

[hushed pine]

No MoS

L season

[silent flame]

What’s MoS again

[hushed pine]

maw of souls

[silent flame]

Oh yea that one

[grand idol]

I think if they ever brought back MoS they should have it drop a vendor trash artifact power item. Just for the laughs.

[hushed pine]

i'm ok with this

I just want my bis trinket again

[terse osprey]

Which is easier to handle/play Colossus or Slayer?

[silent flame]

It’s like a BFA dungeon dropping the heart of Azeroth

[silent flame]

Personally slayer

[naive sage]

To put it shortly Slayer is totally passive and doesn’t add anything active to do, but you have things to track
Colossus has an active spell to cast but it is mostly passive as well

[silent flame]

Doesn’t collosus run the spell to make Cleave and MS reset themselves

I find that makes it a bit harder

[livid cloak]

assert dominance over the fury players

2h 1 weapon

[livid cloak]

you can easily run without it

ive been playing eb and bl, it's the most fun playstyle imo

even if it's not quite as good as something else, less downtime, more hitting cleave and ms feels good in the brain

[slim cypress]

so i may be misunderstanding the colossus arms multitarget opener - please tell me where im wrong

charge, clap, cleave, roar, avatar, sweeping strikes, collusus smash, skullsplitter, ravager, cleave (to get on CD to allow demolish for SS window?), demolish, cleave then prio?

im pretty sure i have that all fucked up

wait, i definitely have it wrong, avatar already giving me 8sec of SS cause of battlelords torment

[rancid solstice]

charge, cleave, clap, roar, sweep, ravager, warbreaker+avatar, build 10 stacks, demolish

nobody plays skullsplitter in key really

[slim cypress]

does the avatar SS just add time to the original SS?

oh really

i didnt know that

[rancid solstice]

it stacks them tomgether its fine

adds time together i mean yes

[slim cypress]

damn, what do people usually replace skullsplitter with

im just going off the wowhead build

[rancid solstice]

you want to cleave as much as possible, esp during merciless bonegrinder

you can run skullsplitter, but most people have dropped it as the other places you can spend that point are about as effective and certainly easier

[slim cypress]

EB looks like it adds some flavor

i do enjoy resets

i appreciate it - skullsplitter feels hella awkward

[rancid solstice]

yea it just doesnt mesh with the aoe cycle at all

[slim cypress]

oh fuck EB resets must feel hella nice in ravager window

[slim cypress]

also, is there usually time to build 10 stacks of demolish before that sweeping strike window fades? its worth to hold on pull to build stacks?

[rancid solstice]

the goal is demolish during CS window, and you will build 10 stacks very quick with sweeping up and hitting multiple target, you want to rotate cleave and MS obv to get to 10

unhinged will also build your stacks, but even without, if youre sweeping multiarget, you will get to 10 quick

[slim cypress]

bet ty!!

[rancid solstice]

yw

[rancid solstice]

blademaster torment also not a very popular pick, its doable and you can get huge colateral damage buff from it, but youre prob better off with 45 sec roar

[slim cypress]

okay cool cause i actually like the idea of 45 sec roar better

although low CD cleaves during ravager window is dope

[rancid solstice]

yeah, try out both then, see what you like more

[slim cypress]

p neat that arms has some options

some specs have no wiggle room

[silent flame]

Can u link build

[sweet cargo]

question - the actual damage of Skullsplitter is not much and we use it on ST primarily for the bleed tick rate? Kind of like Blood DKs Consumption?

[gaunt owl]

yes

[sweet cargo]

ok thx, I always thought the damage was pitiful but that makes sense

[hushed pine]

Useful during Execute phases if you're low on rage

[sweet cargo]

yeah true, but do you take the bleed/rage talent? I haven’t played with it

[quaint otter]

sks is shit

[hushed pine]

The 20% increase to bleeds? Yes

If you're playing with SKS you gotta play that talent

[sweet cargo]

I usually am not raged starved too bad on execute phase if I make sure to press my overpowers

What’s SKS? Sorry I’m new to Arms

[quaint otter]

skullsplitter

[sweet cargo]

Ohh right

That makes sense, I probably do need that talent if I’m building around bleeds

Wish there was more on-use crit trinkets. I’ve got a hero track trinket from tbc with strength / crit passive proc

[boreal quartz]

if ur rlly good at the game u only need 1% crit to crit 100% of ur spells

[quaint otter]

🎰

[shadow ibex]

give demo sharpened blades

[zenith warren]

can warriors wear that t2 pala set?

our is dog

[quasi torrent]

kings honor friend

[nova marsh]

It's a dps increase

You charge an axehead into someone with your shoulders

[vast hinge]

my ST damage is so dogshit

as colossus in keys

kinda depressing to be doubled by frost mages tbh

[nova marsh]

Welcome to colo

[teal fossil]

You asked for it by playing colossus

[naive sage]

Demolish last hit crits for 2m sometimes

It’s over

[nova marsh]

I mean slayer isn't exactly in a good spot for keys

[teal fossil]

Neither is great

But there is an option for st

[hushed pine]

Not enough chad in you if it's hitting for that

[hushed pine]

Yoink

[naive sage]

I played arms for 5 expansions I think I deserve a crumb of damage

[nova marsh]

No

No damage for you

MS didn't crit, demolish didn't crit, nothing critted in a whole 5 minute fight

DISHONOR ON YOU, DISHONOR ON ME, DISHONOR ON THE SPEC

[lucid thicket]

go play Prot

[naive sage]

Anybody has consumables and races custom simc script?

[latent hull]

Only my autoattacks crit 😦

[devout prism]

Is the icy-veins guide still up to date for the best hero spec for M+? Seems like most are going colossus?

[jaunty ingot]

Hi guys. Question about pve arms. If I have a thunderclap talented, is there any point to have/use rend?

[thick kelp]

profileset."Tempered_Potion"+="potion=tempered_potion_3"
profileset."Potion_of_Unwavering_Focus"+="potion=potion_of_unwavering_focus_3"

#TWW Food
profileset."Food_Feast_of_the_Midnight_Masquerade"+="food=feast_of_the_midnight_masquerade"
profileset."Food_The_Sushi_Special"+="food=the_sushi_special"
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profileset."Food_Deepfin_Patty"+="food=deepfin_patty"
profileset."Food_Fiery_Fish_Sticks"+="food=fiery_fish_sticks"
profileset."Food_Fish_and_Chips"+="food=fish_and_chips"
profileset."Food_Ginger_Glazed_Fillet"+="food=ginger_glazed_fillet"
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profileset."Food_Salt_Baked_Seafood"+="food=salt_baked_seafood"
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profileset."Food_Sweet_and_Spicy_Soup"+="food=sweet_and_spicy_soup"
profileset."Food_Zesty_Nibblers"+="food=zesty_nibblers"

#Weapon Stone/Oil
profileset."Algari_Mana_Oil_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:algari_mana_oil_3/off_hand:algari_mana_oil_3"
profileset."Ironclaw_Whetstone_x2"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3/off_hand:ironclaw_whetstone_3"

#Flask
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profileset."Tempered_Aggression (crit) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_aggression_3"
profileset."Tempered_Mastery (mast) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_mastery_3"
profileset."Tempered_Swiftness (haste) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_swiftness_3"
profileset."Tempered_Versatility (vers) "+="flask=flask_of_tempered_versatility_3"

[naive sage]

Ty king

[thick kelp]

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profileset."Blood Elf"+="race=blood_elf"
profileset."Orc"+="race=orc"
profileset."Tauren"+="race=tauren"
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profileset."Earthen"+="race=earthen
profileset."Dracthyr"+="race=dracthyr

[eager sigil]

not really

[warm thistle]

Hi, I dont understand from the guide. Why would I cast SS before bladestorm?

[eager sigil]

you cast mortal strikes during bladestorm

and those cleave

[warm thistle]

This only for slayer?

[zealous sphinx]

Bro read your talents

[eager sigil]

colossus plays ravager i think

[quaint otter]

Its fake

Unhinged ms dont sweep anymore

[quasi torrent]

ztroll hugging 14 lines moment

[winter ledge]

is slayer or colossus better for M+?

[thick kelp]

og troll >>

[boreal quartz]

Yesnt

Ravager ms with ss give u extra demolish stacks

But dont actually cleave

[warm thistle]

How much haste should I go for?

[slow saddle]

As much as u can while bots says haste

Sim is the only answer

[crimson hollow]

btw what you guys things that arms need to be playeble in higher m+? i think our overall dmg Is good, i can do same overall As few meta classes, so i think we rly just need boost our single target in m+ 🙈cause IT rly Hurts when i have 900dps on boss And class like enha have 1.5 mil 😅🤣

[latent bobcat]

The reason I hear for people preferring taking other dps classes is simply that Warriors have little to offer in terms of utility, dps is fine

[halcyon valve]

😔

[gaunt owl]

utility is fake

community perception of the class and brainrot is 100% the issue

[halcyon valve]

Agreed

Always take meta classes, only take others as last resort and if theyre massively above the content youre doing

[crimson hollow]

if you have enough DPS you can still bring class with good DPS And less utility 😅 but if you have less utility And one of the worst boss dmg Its a problem 😅

[eager sigil]

boss damage isnt bad

[halcyon valve]

Cut to warriors doing top boss dps because lots of people do not know their spec

[crimson hollow]

with m+talents? do you play same game as me? my boss dmg was good in 10s when boss die Fast enough and i had cds up Most % of the fight..Now when i goes 13its just a pain😅 especialy in group with something like aug 🙈

[silent flame]

Rate the fit (yes ik it's mainly just the nyalotha set)

[halcyon valve]

Not a fan of the nyalotha sets tbh

[boreal quartz]

wep looks shit

[quasi torrent]

L

[silent flame]

D:

Also reminded again why i never host my own keys

Also what mog should i go for then

[boreal quartz]

t3

[halcyon valve]

i do be loving my generic plate armor set

[naive sage]

I don’t know it’s like a dark souls starter equip if armor in dark souls was awful (mostly it’s not)

[halcyon valve]

[silent flame]

What you mean by t3?

[boreal quartz]

tier 3 tmog set

og naxx

[astral talon]

boss moves from demolish again reeee

can we have it as combo?

[naive sage]

Good idea

[naive sage]

Weapon is recolored Armageddon

[hushed pine]

Bad mog = BAD WARRIOR

[warm thistle]

Stat weigths is telling me to craft mastery

Ignore it and go with Crit haste?

[quasi torrent]

don't us stat weights

[warm thistle]

I never geared MAstery on Warrior before

[quasi torrent]

sim different weps against each other.

[slow saddle]

Id say no mog.

[naive sage]

The only good stats weight is for is to have a vague idea of which direction to follow but it can never be as good as simming different weapons against each other
So I’d not make my mind by using stats weight

[shadow ibex]

I made a mog using DK class set n it's kinda tough

[thick kelp]

yeah?

[shadow ibex]

our s3 DF set is bugged and changes colors if you mix and match

[thick kelp]

not sure on the belt

[shadow ibex]

if you put a nomal piece + heroic or mythic it can get weird cuz color of gloves will change to something else

or belt or w/e

[shadow ibex]

the glad belt was other choice it looks p good with it

the all white s3 tho is crisp

i was trying to make skull knight but no good shoulders

got the creepy sword tho ez

[hushed pine]

I've only seen that sword match a set and unfortunately it's restricted to dk

[frozen jetty]

sick mog

pieces?

[silent flame]

Guys
Ik this isnt arms related

But i did my first 2 14s today!!!

:D:D:D:D:D:D

1 was full pug the other was with 2 friends

[atomic mountain]

what do you mean exactly? dit you managed it with fury then?

[fresh sierra]

What spec?

[silent flame]

The best warrior spec

assasination

[hushed pine]

Impressive. Very nice.

Now do a 15

[silent flame]

Will do!

I have a 15 mists

planning to do it next night

but yea ik it isnt warrior i was just

so pumped i did the two haha

[halcyon valve]

if not warrior, why post in warrior chat

[silent flame]

Because i frogt about wow general

because im an idiot

[mild nymph]

To get us up in arms

🥲

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-muppets-muppet-angry-gif-4979240094074316588

[naive sage]

Gggg

I am almost done with all the 12s on my enha

Tbh I feel a bit of guilt because I do not like to play meta specs
But in my defense I loved enha since I played on wotlk private servers and in bfa too so it was just some kind of comeback to a spec I like

[jade cargo]

damn - Skyhold is dead

[thick kelp]

[gaunt owl]

[finite mantle]

[valid flame]

[dusty summit]

[hushed pine]

[daring heron]

[fresh spire]

[nova marsh]

just like the class

[slow saddle]

collosus good

smashing

last key i got crits

[honest moat]

did someone try to go bladestorm instead of ravager as arms ?

in m+

[eager sigil]

slayer plays it

[halcyon valve]

i kinda wish spear was either better than it is, or replaced with a different ability

[naive sage]

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but it is not bad by itself, it's just that thunderous roar and its two talents beneath are simply too strong

[weak rain]

necrobanner instead of spear KEKW

[halcyon valve]

i mean yeah that is true

[hushed pine]

Necro banner pls

[halcyon valve]

to a degree. roar is just so much better

if only spear could be 45 seconds aswell

that would be crazy

[astral yarrow]

Roar has a decent amount of synergies

Spear doesnt

Spear into a Demolish crit is good though

[naive sage]

Banner and bl would get us into so many more keys

[halcyon valve]

yeah but too unreliable

[honest moat]

I would like to try a complete spear funnel like warbreaker => spear => demolish => bladestorm

absolute nuke

[quaint otter]

Sounds ass

[honest moat]

party pooper 💀

[quaint otter]

Its a shame we dont have og spear cdr talent

[devout prism]

Anyone know why default WoW UI player HUD keeps showing Warbreaker is available after every MS cast for like 1.5 seconds even if it's on CD?

happens if the "Show Personal Cooldowns" option is toggled, but idk why warbreaker keeps showing up after every MS...

all addons are disabled too

[hushed pine]

If Spear was 8 seconds it'd be worth taking

[latent moss]

if spear wasnt fucking cringe

[silent flame]

Just took my arms to the raid for the first time
Did shit
Was just a heroic re clear after we got some mythic down

But I felt like I was doing so little dps and idk why tbf

[thick kelp]

Pressing buttons contributes to higher dps

[silent flame]

Ohhh ok

I’ll try that next time

Tbh for ST I need to work on aligning my CDs more I think

[stoic siren]

In m+ do I just send everything on cd? Holding to line up feels bad, wasting the cdr

[rancid solstice]

Yeah send it

[halcyon valve]

playing colossus on ovinax is kinda funny

hit a demolish for 42 million dmg

[naive sage]

Haha in the meantime I hit a 1.6m demolish non critted with 10 stacks on

[balmy kindle]

Finally downed H ansurek last night, turns out all we needed was to make a separate group with top performers

[wintry arch]

I think that’s very common for a ton of aotc only guilds

Then you can swap in others and help them get the kill

[balmy kindle]

Yeap gonna do that later this reset

[tacit crystal]

or make people jump off

that boss turbo explodes

[full widget]

Why get aotc with a guild if it takes that long

Just pug it week 2-3

[shadow ibex]

the journey is more important

[balmy kindle]

Brown class DPS how to pug

Side note, dracthyr racial is bonkers on ansurek

Glide completely negates wrest

[full widget]

[halcyon valve]

So does demolish if you can time it properly

[balmy kindle]

But arms on queen prog

[halcyon valve]

One of the rare times where "makes you immune to knock backs" actually works

[balmy kindle]

Like I like arms but I need to admit fury Is just better for the webs

[halcyon valve]

Eh
They barely stay up for more than a few seconds on heroic, it really isnt a big deal

[balmy kindle]

I see, gonna try using arms this reset perhaps. Do you hold demo for webs ?

Because as fury the play is to hold on OF and BS

[maiden grotto]

In m+ what are we playing?

[shadow ibex]

colossus is good

[maiden grotto]

Slayer felt pretty rough in aoe

[nova marsh]

Slayer is not worth your time really for aoe

For st it's neat

[shadow ibex]

princess dead

colossus court time

[minor gust]

its not fun

the colossus part is but the Silken Prog is not

[open mango]

is the wowhead talent tree for raid the best rn or is there an updated one?

[silent flame]

Personally i prefer slayer aoe to collosus

[slow saddle]

Collosus is so good on aoe though

u just need loads of crit 😄

[balmy kindle]

It's all

[slow saddle]

nah DEMO SLAM

feels so good when u get an amped crit

[silent flame]

Tbf I just didn’t like playing w the talent that made my cleave and MS reset themselves so I might just play w/o that next time

I feel like with arms I’m so inconsistent with my rotation
Sometimes I do it well sometimes I mess up

[balmy kindle]

Tbh arms is kind of an ape spec in keys, cant really mess up unless you hit slam too many times imo

Rage is also a non factor outside of exe phase

[silent flame]

Yes idk how I can mess it up

It’s not like I main ret or smth easier than arms
I play Assa which is say is on par with arms difficulty maybe?

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/mualani-gif-5699744288645835006

[naive sage]

Is it easier now? I used to play it in DF for the lulz because it was the worst spec and I found it a lil bit difficult at times

I mean Assa

[silent flame]

Tbf I’ve hear a few people say it’s hard, maybe I’m just used to it

[fossil rampart]

we don't do champion's spear on ky'veza?

[balmy kindle]

Maybe because rogue has dmg windows while warriors kind of just push buttons idk

When I play sub : symbols and SD = yes I get to play the game

[silent flame]

To be fair Assa is for mantinance

*dot

Arms is prolly easier I’m just stupid

[balmy kindle]

Don't think just zug and push MS

[slow saddle]

every spec is easy once u are comfortable with em tbh 😄

[silent flame]

True

[silent flame]

True

[slow saddle]

unless its collosus then u actually have to hold shit once in a while

and take stuff into other pulls but slayer arms deffo just zug

which food do we use

[silent flame]

Personally

I’d go with a nice steak dinner

[slow saddle]

i just bought the cheapest one

[silent flame]

But I THINK bells bounty

[silent flame]

Oh what stuff do I hold w arms

[thick kelp]

Hold this :pantsgrab:

[thick kelp]

#TWW Food
profileset."Food_Feast_of_the_Midnight_Masquerade"+="food=feast_of_the_midnight_masquerade"
profileset."Food_The_Sushi_Special"+="food=the_sushi_special"
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profileset."Food_Deepfin_Patty"+="food=deepfin_patty"
profileset."Food_Fiery_Fish_Sticks"+="food=fiery_fish_sticks"
profileset."Food_Fish_and_Chips"+="food=fish_and_chips"
profileset."Food_Ginger_Glazed_Fillet"+="food=ginger_glazed_fillet"
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profileset."Food_Salty_Dog"+="food=salty_dog"
profileset."Food_Sweet_and_Spicy_Soup"+="food=sweet_and_spicy_soup"
profileset."Food_Zesty_Nibblers"+="food=zesty_nibblers"

[silent flame]

Bro I just want a sandwich

[cobalt sinew]

i wonder why they chose to give us just spear and not the other covenant abilities

[slow saddle]

i hate meta classes

even dps fuckers

leave keys as soon as they arent satisfied

[silent flame]

Why

Oh

Fair

[slow saddle]

its super frustrating 18 min left in a NW we die to a silly mistake pull before 2nd boss

he gone

[cobalt sinew]

rag?

[slow saddle]

ruins a key for a guy who prob needed vault

tank was rag

and bad

but dps was from turalyon ?

wait is that french

?

[cobalt sinew]

no, there is also a us turalyon realm

[slow saddle]

EU ofc 😄

[cobalt sinew]

oh

my european xiv friends tell me the french are godawful

[silent flame]

In wow or in general

Russians are a red flag

[cobalt sinew]

in general

french and russians

[silent flame]

True

He isn’t wrong X)

[manic blade]

Is colo recommended in low keys too just when gearing or is slayer a bit easier to just spin to win?

[silent flame]

Also if your tank has a shitty dumb name they are either ssss tier or god awful

Like I had one called childlabor

One of the shittest tanks I’ve ever had

[cobalt sinew]

you have to pray you get those once in a lifetime god savants that are like a warrior named Garrosh but every letter is a altcode version of it or Illidan, Arthas, etc

[slow saddle]

100% french and russians and sprinkle in sanguino server as well

[still fox]

how much crit is good for demo M+?

[silent flame]

Idk Demonology

Ok shit joke

No idea how much you want for demolisher, I just wanted to make the joke

[atomic mountain]

40%+ is good

[slow saddle]

more crit is more good

sitting at 34% now

wish id have more

[balmy kindle]

I wanna have more but I wanna be able to flex fury

Stuck at 30% with flask and buffs

[atomic mountain]

whats with 2 gearsets bro XD

[slow saddle]

i could get more as kyozomi said if i respecced weapon and bracers

thats 1600 crit rating more

[atomic mountain]

i am at 42%

[slow saddle]

it feels good right?

[balmy kindle]

42% is like 18000 ?

[atomic mountain]

yes

[slow saddle]

has to be with phials and shit

[balmy kindle]

Or 20000

[slow saddle]

mythic neck from rashsnan ?

i mean thats 5000 rating almost 😄

[atomic mountain]

nope

[balmy kindle]

Tried simming switching secondaries but really it's like a 0.1 diff lol on my Colo build, but a 2% loss on fury with low mastery

[slow saddle]

weapon is crit then?

[silent flame]

Arms you stack crit and haste right

Or well

You simply

*sim

But it’s mainly that you’d want right

[atomic mountain]

crafted wep with ascendent

[balmy kindle]

If you SIM Colo mastery and crit is favoured along with haste

But crit you want at least 30+

[silent flame]

KK

[slow saddle]

yes but is weapon crit - haste or haste - mastery?

[silent flame]

I just know simming is always first

But stat prio is good

[thick kelp]

stat prio

is dead

[atomic mountain]

crit haste always

[slow saddle]

well as he said he wanted to play fury as wlel 😄

[atomic mountain]

well just dont play fury XD

[balmy kindle]

Yeah if udw

[silent flame]

Ok

[balmy kindle]

I just prefer to have an option just in case

[silent flame]

Hear me out

Speed is number one stat prio

You wanna clear keys fast right

[slow saddle]

• u are using rashanan neck just hc 😄

[silent flame]

So surely the faster you move the better

[slow saddle]

i use speed gem !

[atomic mountain]

arend you the rogue main?

[silent flame]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[midnight mural]

I use speed gem too. The crit gem is rediculous miniscule - and movespeed kinda goated

[atomic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414

XD

[silent flame]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-shocked-cat-silly-cat-cat-kitten-gif-7414586676150300212

[atomic mountain]

warry has 2 charges and the jump. you dont need speed

[silent flame]

But more speed

[balmy kindle]

I am filthy dracthyr now , gliding is good

[midnight mural]

it makes sticking to a boss alot easier

[silent flame]

Never to much speed

[atomic mountain]

never had a problem with speed

[silent flame]

Why don’t we get cold stew hot blood back and give it to arms too

I remember thinking that power cool

[slow saddle]

Speed gem is king

100%

[balmy kindle]

How much does the speed add up to though

[slow saddle]

10%

?

coz i gem for it

kek

[silent flame]

Wouldent the crit gem + 4 colours be better

Idk I might be wrong

[balmy kindle]

Lol am using the crit gem myeelf but if it's 10% it's worth zooming

[silent flame]

Ah fair

[atomic mountain]

sure its better XD

[silent flame]

But not zoomy

[atomic mountain]

warry dont fuckingneed speed. good luck with speed gem XD

[balmy kindle]

Cause crit gem iirc is crit multiplier for sure so it's kinda like the no brainer choice

[thick kelp]

me when my crits do 0.6% more damage

raises the damage to mindblowing 100.6%

[silent flame]

Holy

[naive sage]

Maybe if it was 1.5…

0.15% kinda troll

[slow saddle]

its almost nothing

[modest carbon]

Not to mention there's loads of other Crit damage multipliers in talents, making the gem even less worthwhile

[slow saddle]

speed on the other hand is value

[modest carbon]

I just use the speed gem. The uptime from walking faster probably equals more DPS than the crit gem

[slow saddle]

faster stepping out of and into danger

always good

speed is rly underestimated imho

[silent flame]

Tbf

[modest carbon]

Only tertiary that can influence DPS, it's a great stat

[silent flame]

We all know the stamina gem is the best

The goal of wow is to keep your health above 0

I know because the tip on the loading screen said

[slow saddle]

speed lets u dodge and do dmg faster so i mean

[magic canopy]

speed gem good til you get a bunch of dumb speed tert

[slow saddle]

100%

unless

[modest carbon]

I remember in SL I got real lucky with speed gear. Zooming in dungeons

[slow saddle]

yeah i had great speed items in SL as well

this season 0 so far

that being said, only got like 4-6 heroic pieces on me

so hard to get those thert

[silent flame]

Also

Anyone know if the ring is gonna be good for war, i remember the onyx ring being hyper good for me on sub.

Curious if the new one will be good for arms

[slow saddle]

its prob decent on fury

[midnight mural]

It's most likely gonna be good for everyone

[slow saddle]

but if its dcent on fury its better on sub and other faster hitting classes id say

but theres also just stats on it

so worst case its a 639 with perfect stats

[midnight mural]

i think it only has stamina no

?

[slow saddle]

theres gems with stats

[silent flame]

Yea

[slow saddle]

and gems with dmg

[midnight mural]

oh

[slow saddle]

some1 just asked if arms is viable in a fucking 10 key

kek

i better perform now 😄

[midnight mural]

oh so if people cant use the proccs, they can atleast get a 639 ring with perfect stats

[slow saddle]

y

[midnight mural]

thats nice

[modest carbon]

Of course not, if it's not SSS tripple omega tier on tier lists it sucks.

[slow saddle]

which is what i almost said

[modest carbon]

Tbf, people still think Fury is OP even that that hasn't been true since week 1 in low keys

[slow saddle]

ikr

i mean thane is RLY strong

in bad grps

in semi keys

immortal, so u die less = better overall

arms life is packs living long enough for cleave spam to matter 😄

[modest carbon]

I think Arms burst is fine/good, as long as things live at least 10-15s

Which if they don't, you're doing too low keys

[manic blade]

yo im new to arms this szn and lowkey love that cleave is the big hitter

[silent flame]

Most classes are much stronger when played right

Bro some dude is fucking snoring in the lecture I can’t

[slow saddle]

kek

😄

cleave + stacks + bear tank = dead warrior

so 1st death to demo 😄 malaka

😄

[silent flame]

Nono

Bear tank = dead group

[halcyon valve]

Die by the sword = alive warrior

[silent flame]

Die by the sword when live by the axe walks in

[slow saddle]

tbf prob shouldda used it pre pull

[silent flame]

Do we ever run either of the torment talents in aoe ever? They just seem really cool

[slow saddle]

u can in keys tbh

as collosus

less roars then

its quite fun

dno if theres a big difference 😄

[silent flame]

Fair fair

[midnight mural]

you can do some absolutely insane collats

[silent flame]

Blades or recklessness

[midnight mural]

but requires stuff to live for ages 😄

[silent flame]

Yea

My war is like doing 10s en

So nothing loves long nuff

*lives

Tbf; I barely know what you can change around in arms

Still kinda clueless to it

[halcyon valve]

Go spiteful

Ive been running it in a handful of keys now, its actually kinda nice

[naive sage]

Elaborate on that

[halcyon valve]

Tho im not quite sure yet whats the optimal strat, but i think its probably best to demolish after roar runs out

To keep the bleed dmg buff for the entire duration

[silent flame]

Can you show build

Wouldn’t be harmful to try some different tbingd

[halcyon valve]

This one

[silent flame]

K cheers

[halcyon valve]

It just simplifies cooldown timings to every 45 seconds because well yeah no anger management

[silent flame]

Fair

I think I’m bad at aligning CDs in aoe atm

Tbf I should start recording my runs and logging

So I can improve

[halcyon valve]

The one problem with spiteful is if mobs dont live long enough, your avatar lasts 40 seconds

[silent flame]

What’s spiteful again

[hushed pine]

Doubles CS and Avatar duration

[halcyon valve]

Double duration on avatar and colossus smash, but 40% decreased effectiveness

[silent flame]

Ohhhhh

That’s cool

So it’s easier to line up you said

Easier to play?

[halcyon valve]

I mean you can think of it like that

[silent flame]

Also nice TM pfp vic

Fair
It collosus or slayer

[halcyon valve]

Colossus

Because of the 30% bleed dmg in that talent tree

[hushed pine]

Thanks, courtesy of my lady's meme gallery lol

[thick kelp]

Pick a talent to do less damage

[halcyon valve]

All in all your 3 bleeds combined will be roughly 30-35% of your total damage in a dungeon

[thick kelp]

Astrobrain

[silent flame]

Ah ok ok

Big

[hushed pine]

Imo Anger Management should work with Avatar again

[silent flame]

Hangry madmen

*managment

Actually hangry madmen sounds funny

[halcyon valve]

But ye its funny how with spiteful you use cs, roar, wait for roar to end, anc cs is still running