arms

[thorn spoke]

Joined the 2M gang today (NW 10) god i love arms

[reef glade]

[opal kelp]

shitty right ?

have ara kara and treachrous 626

[serene hollow]

if there's 0 other upgrades and you don't forsee a socket needed any time soon you could still take it if you want myth track in every slot asap

[opal kelp]

no skullspitter ?

[halcyon valve]

Honestly this trinket is kinda funny
Sometimes in aoe you can highroll and get up to 9/10 stacks of the passive buff

[opal kelp]

so, the buff stacks ?

[dim basalt]

That trinket is alright

[halcyon valve]

yeah but every stacks duration is independent from the others

[inner terrace]

dis is not easy choice

[thorn spoke]

Brain too smooth to press that

[inner terrace]

nvm. Dis is easy choice..

[gaunt owl]

you just wanted to flex

you are right

[inner terrace]

LOL I didn't mean to i just didn't think

[opal kelp]

so i'll get it just to test it

[astral talon]

so close

soooooooooooooooooooooooo close 😦

[livid cloak]

The fuck is that hunter doing

[astral talon]

friend

doesn't rly play keys

[ionic reef]

is arms performing closer too fury?

[astral talon]

some say worse

some say better

play whatever you want

both are good

[ionic reef]

for arms do i go colossus or slayer?

[gaunt owl]

Slayer more ST

Colossus more AOE

[ionic reef]

just played colossus feels like Demo is hit or miss really easy to whiff

[hushed pine]

Please tell me you grabbed the neck

[tacit crystal]

no socket

[marble steppe]

anyone has the no communication shit ppl used for m+?
or how do i search it

for cc chains

[still fox]

why not trinket?

[tacit crystal]

because its heroic

but prob neck

[still fox]

ah sry 😅

[bleak fog]

Do you guys line up everything to get that big cleave hit after a sweeping strike with Collateral or just go with the flow and it will be what it is?

[summer quartz]

I personally just send everything lol.

regardless of things lining up. Probably not the most optimal but eh, its fun and see big numbers. Unga bunga.

[boreal quartz]

Getting wb + 2 op buff + ravager + demo + ava is ideal

But sometimes u only hit wb + demo

[bleak fog]

Yeah, and cant rly sit on cleave or well more or less everything if not 2 stack of op 😄

[boreal quartz]

Specifically the CD cleave u can sit on till 2OP stacks

Every other cleave ever u send

[bleak fog]

But those 10m hits is.. sweet 😛

[shadow ibex]

finally good vault

[cobalt sinew]

why are stances talents if theyre just baseline talents for each spec

[ornate eagle]

A failed attempt at trying to revive them being a relevant thing

(they never were)

[nova marsh]

Why are ms and op talents

[fossil thistle]

I got 4 myth rings in my vault, and none were bis :<

[astral talon]

You just make one macro to switch between them

[cobalt sinew]

on the face of it defensive stance is pretty nice to have when youre about to get SMASHED and SLAMMED by some rws or something

[ornate eagle]

Or just buff our surv baseline without the loss of dmg throughput

[astral talon]

Dstance is one of the best walls tho, always on demand dmg reduction

Big buff to surv would be making IP relevant again

[ornate eagle]

Yeah I mean I'm not mad it exists

But they absolutely missed whatever the real purpose of stances was

[astral talon]

Absolutely

But I don't think theres any way to implement stances in a way that would be meaningful

And interactive

And above all, fun

[ornate eagle]

Yeah

[astral talon]

Speaking of fun, can we have demolish work as a 3 hit combo?

Like new moon half moon and full moon

[ornate eagle]

That'd be

Idk demolish is already pretty fun

[astral talon]

It is

But the channel aspect is annoying

And bugs on ovinax mythic

[ornate eagle]

Sad that colossus still isn't better than slayer in ST tho...

[astral talon]

Channel can sometimes never end

[ornate eagle]

Bro I wish I could play fuckin arms on bane

Would be so fun

[astral talon]

Bane?

[ornate eagle]

Ovinax is bane

[astral talon]

Oh

Well I do xD

[astral talon]

On most pulls whenever im not lagging im at like 3mil dps

[shadow ibex]

i had a nice fun demo bug on first siege boss

the root lingered for like 5 seconds

[ornate eagle]

3mil dps where

[shadow ibex]

root/snare

[ornate eagle]

Like overall or

[uncut shard]

Nomeratur

Nomeratur

Nomeratur

Nomeratur

Nomeratur

Nomeratur

[astral talon]

Its not a kill yet

[ornate eagle]

Ah

[quasi torrent]

Nomeratur

[ornate eagle]

Can't believe Toph is a bot

[astral talon]

But I often have around 3mil dps, i believe my best was 3.1mil at around 40% 😦

[astral talon]

Ye thats the bug

And last hit doesn't go off until the end lol

[uncut shard]

I am not a bot

[astral talon]

Its not combo then root

[ornate eagle]

That's exactly what a bot would say

[uncut shard]

I am not a bot

[shadow ibex]

idk what caused it i used it but it almost killed

add used big frontal and i just did .001% movement speed crawl out

[astral talon]

Its a bug or desycn

[ornate eagle]

You can leap during demolish btw

[astral talon]

Fuck knows

[uncut shard]

I am not a bot

[astral talon]

I refuse

[ornate eagle]

🙂

Then perish

[astral talon]

Leap is for going to enemy

Not away

[astral talon]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-brad-pitt-thats-why-no-one-will-remember-your-name-gif-16617148

[dire hinge]

you still leap to the enemy, just the side that won't kill you

if you leap away it cancels demolish bc you're out of range

[ornate eagle]

^

[shadow ibex]

why do we settle for scraps

[dire hinge]

i mean it's not good, by any means. I just want a non-targeted frontal if we're being honest

but thems the tools we have access to

[astral talon]

Three skill combo, last one being big frontal cleave

Then we can give it a nice animation

I was thinking something blue

[shadow ibex]

i'd prefer a frontal yea

[dire hinge]

yeah, i mean Cleave feels good as a frontal cone already. Combos would be a great solution to it so you can re-cast the "final hit" once you're in range

[hushed pine]

Clink, clink, chonk

[dire hinge]

mobs moving out mid-channel feels just dogshit, tbh

[halcyon valve]

Not the night fae flashbacks nooooo

[halcyon valve]

They need to fix this

[hushed pine]

Demolish is one of those abilities that'd make you faction change and gank the tank because he moved the adds outta the way

[shadow ibex]

after leveling my shaman and specing resto for timewalking im now surprised we dont have a combo ability cuz even resto has healing rain into downpour or w/e

i was like oh word

how do we not have one yet

[halcyon valve]

Sucks ass that there can be 6 enemies all around you but the ability just stops because the main target is 10cm too far away

[dire hinge]

sometimes it's just mobs teleporting, not even the tank's fault. There's a few dungeons with mobs charging or blinking to allies at range. If you target the wrong thing at the wrong time and channel, there goes your 45sec CD

skill issue, in some ways, targeting something pre-blink, but still

lemme just hit in front of my character

[shadow ibex]

yea

it shouldnt be like oh just play around

video game should be fun to interact with not annoying

esp as class hard stuck to melee

[dire hinge]

most video games*

this is activision we're talking about

[halcyon valve]

Shockwave doesnt need main target to be in range, neither should last demolish hit

[shadow ibex]

pressinve shockwave with rumbling earth and seeing the range on it

is most impactful visual on warrior imo

[hushed pine]

Demolish should be a crit while also being a frontal imo

[shadow ibex]

and its an aoe with that does 400 dmg

[halcyon valve]

true

[shadow ibex]

but its the flashiest thing we have

for sure

[hushed pine]

Like the last hit should be a guaranteed crit or increased chance

[halcyon valve]

Keep in mind it benefits from the 25% dmg buff from colossus when it hits 5 targets
Buffing zero by 25% is still zero tho

[shadow ibex]

i would just rather it get boosted by all MS talents

demo i mean

the crit chance

sharpened blades

crushing force yes

[halcyon valve]

Imagine last demolish hit has a floor visual like that one evoker aoe knock

Nutty

[hushed pine]

Hits targets so hard it breaks the ground

[shadow ibex]

i press shockwave man and i feel like a warrior

why cant demo be like that

[halcyon valve]

I mean, that is kinda what the hero talent trees fantasy points towards yeah

Big slamma

[shadow ibex]

w rumbling earth it goes across the dungeon

[halcyon valve]

Warrior so big he creates earthquakes

[hushed pine]

A la Diablo 3 Barb

[halcyon valve]

Hell yeah

[astral talon]

They could easily make it so you have to stack to 10 every time to use another skill

So 30 stacks overall for full combo

So you wouldnt be able to just slap triple combo

[dire hinge]

yee they have a million levers they could pull

[astral talon]

And each and every single one would be an upgrade haha

[dire hinge]

not making demo root you, but keeping you immune to knockbacks is one too

[astral talon]

Real

Still, combo system with fire aftershock would be lit

[nimble yoke]

ngl combo system would be sick yea

[nova marsh]

...guys

is it even worth it to start guild hunting this late in the tier....with no logs

[sacred zodiac]

ye

[astral yarrow]

game is infinitely better when playing with friends

[fresh spire]

realest take

if i didnt play with mates i likely would have quit long ago

[nova marsh]

I mean raiding is dead for me, like

Hilariously so until I fix my work schedule (either by actually getting my weekends back or finding another job....idk which one is harder)

[astral yarrow]

if you cant put aside 2 nights of 3 ish hours for raiding, its rough

[nova marsh]

Yepppp

Or just find a guild who has active players around when I'm home and able to play for keys

But also finding another raiding guild is highly unlikely due to well....no logs

[inner terrace]

get logs

I'm messin idk how to apply to mythic guilds

I wanna get into some early mythic raiding but idk where to look

[nova marsh]

Oh hell no I'm not applying to mythic

[inner terrace]

oh ok

[nova marsh]

There is no way in hell anyone takes someone like me

For mythic

[inner terrace]

u can join my guild most of us suck

but we killin heroic ansurek erry week

[rare kite]

tons of low level mythic guilds. like the kind that kill a few mythic bosses each tier, can definetely get into those

[halcyon valve]

Warcraftlogs recruitment

Thats how i found mine

[latent moss]

wowprogress too

[halcyon valve]

Works but i dont like the site
2004 looking aah page

[fringe moon]

https://discord.gg/GPkmS8yZ

that's where I found my guild

you can look at the mythic recruitment section for a guild that meets your raid schedule

[halcyon valve]

I stand by warcratlogs recruitment
You can filter by available times and progress in the raid, which should be the most relevant criteria

[sacred zodiac]

can use more than 1 method ye

[tacit crystal]

also can find guilds by mkaing connections through keys

or raid

current guild was made through keys with 1 and almost had a spot for a guild that raided 12-3 am

[scarlet field]

Am I trolling not taking ep in keys ?

I see a bunch of other Colossus not taking it

And I'm not a huge fan, but also a noob

[shadow ibex]

not a whole lot of other options tbh. another bb rank

or sks

unless you want mass but no EP

[scarlet field]

Battlelord ? Exhilarating blows ?

[scarlet geyser]

on court which boss should I be targeting?

[shadow ibex]

u can already get EB and BL

with EP

[uncut shard]

Both depending on timings

You switch for the damage amps otherwise you just focus what is more easy to access

[dreamy egret]

which warrior is doing it right? the world may never know

[uncut shard]

Most likely both are making mistakes

But first one looks closer to what it should look like

on a short boss like that

[finite wasp]

its also an rng spec, critical strike can make or break ur dps if fight is 3 min or less

[uncut shard]

What is your reason for it being 3 min or less where the rng matters?

[shadow ibex]

one had more exe crits

other has more MS crits

or unlucky with 4pc and just slamming exe cuz MS not worth pressing

[nova marsh]

Guys do we ever take concuss for interrupts?

[regal socket]

guys who do i do NO single target dmg

with colossus on m+

[nova marsh]

THat's just colossus

[quaint otter]

Get mandate

[regal socket]

trying (:

i am new

only 605

[quaint otter]

So its fine

Get gear dont bother boit details thing

[regal socket]

should i go slayer

inm+?

[quaint otter]

i dont know i tried slayer and was total shit for me

figure ur own 🤷‍♀️

[regal socket]

im no theroycrafter i dont wanna figiure it out

i just wanna know what the best build is

:p

[finite wasp]

no slayer arms is trash m+

[uncut shard]

There is no best build

[quaint otter]

I mean theorycrafting is a thing that requires close to ideal conditions

In average runs some builds can be better some worse

[regal socket]

i am casual new arms player i dont want to figure anything out whats the best

im not good enoughf or that

[uncut shard]

Then just copy

What good players do

🤷‍♂️

[regal socket]

ok (:

so good plaeyrs just take colossus and accept shit dmg on st?

[finite wasp]

sorry, that's just my opinion, but i look at sims and experiences ive had with it, colussus performs signifcantly better overall m+

[uncut shard]

Good players dont play arms in very high keys

[regal socket]

no im agreeing with you, i meant i dont wanna like theorycraft i just wanna copy good players.

[quaint otter]

colo does decent in st

[uncut shard]

If you want to play arms in keys just go colossus and accept poor st

Nah it really doesnt

[regal socket]

"very high" meaning 12+?

highest ill do is 11 really

ive doen like a single 12

[uncut shard]

Then just play colossus if you enjoy it

[regal socket]

its pretty fun

[uncut shard]

Then you have done higher than me on my warrior

xD

[regal socket]

well this is on my mage

im mage main

trying warrior now

[nova marsh]

Just play colo

[regal socket]

i havent played warrior since TOM builds were best

[nova marsh]

Slayer is the big dead

Don't bother with it

[regal socket]

u take slayer every raid fight tho right?

[uncut shard]

Just play what you enjoy then if its an alt

[nova marsh]

In terms of M+

There's no contest in raid

[uncut shard]

You can play colossus on silken court

[quaint otter]

but u talking about m+

[uncut shard]

in theory

[regal socket]

yes but doing hafl everyone elses damage on m+ bosses on tyranical feels so bad

[uncut shard]

but its difficult to do comparable damage

but it CAN do more

[finite wasp]

slayer apparently is met for raid only lmao

[nova marsh]

Yeah because blizz massacured

[quaint otter]

in 10th key it doesnt matter tyr or forti

[finite wasp]

they need to rework it if its gonna be good in m+ xd

[uncut shard]

half is a big extreme

when I tried out colossus I was doing like 10% less than a rogue with comparable gear to me

but I wasnt playing it too well, was just testing

[finite wasp]

was it sin or outlaw that rouge was

[uncut shard]

It also did less overall for me than fury in similar keys

ass

[finite wasp]

sin is op

[uncut shard]

but they guy who played it is cracked on it

[finite wasp]

dw if you get gapped

[uncut shard]

Oh im not worried

[finite wasp]

by a sin

[uncut shard]

I know what my class is good at and what its bad it

its just a tradeoff

but in 10s it doesnt matter

So just play what you enjoy

even more reason if its an alt

[finite wasp]

basically every spec is good at a 10

but high keys there are prio specs

and the ones with slow rampup burst is op

[uncut shard]

Nah not really

I would not say enhc is a slow rampup

and enhancer is like the single best dps right now

[finite wasp]

well enhance is built different

[uncut shard]

I had a pull on kyveza today on my shaman

was going out of burst with 6M dps

like wat

[finite wasp]

its busted when priest gives it pi in comp

[uncut shard]

First 30s

[nova marsh]

It's okay

[uncut shard]

like what is this class

xddd

[nova marsh]

enhance will die next season

As all meta specs do

[uncut shard]

my elemental blasts didnt even crit

[finite wasp]

enhance is wildly op rn

but eventually

its gonna be wildly shit

when blizz gives it the hammer

[nova marsh]

Yeah because enhance is gonna get hit with nerfs as hard as ele was

[uncut shard]

Doesnt matter in the end

[nova marsh]

Such is the way of things

[uncut shard]

just play the classes the are good and have fun with them

while they are good 🙂

[nova marsh]

I mean I am having fun with enhance but I was having fun with enhance in DF

[finite wasp]

im too lazy to gear an alt

[nova marsh]

And enhance was....kinda mid in df

[finite wasp]

i hate going through the low m+ key gauntlet

[nova marsh]

The low M+ gauntlent killed my warrior

went to shaman and slaughtered it somehow

[uncut shard]

There is no low m+ key gauntlet

as enhancer

You just push your key to 10 and just spam it on 10

[nova marsh]

Yeah that's the fun part

[uncut shard]

you do comparable damage to other classes with 20 ilvl less

[finite wasp]

dude it was so fucking tilting to go through that as arms in beginning of season

[uncut shard]

Thats your decision

xD

[dire hinge]

go prot

[nova marsh]

I gave up on my warrior 2 weeks ago

[uncut shard]

Ofc youre not gonna have fun

[nova marsh]

I know

It was awful

[shadow ibex]

sometimes i cant believe we played this spec before the laundry list of buffs

but then i remember thats just arms. 6% aura halfway thru the tier

[nova marsh]

I gave up literally right before buffs

[finite wasp]

yeah and they were going to buff frost dk almost

[dire hinge]

it's kinda fun when it's bad

[finite wasp]

ngl this season was absolute cringe

[nova marsh]

I've realized

[uncut shard]

I think enhancer gameplay is very fun

[nova marsh]

I wasted this season unfortauntely

This is gonna be a fucking awful xpack for me

[nova marsh]

I miss when enhance's generators did actual damage but yeah it's pretty neat

Not really being tied down to CDs to do damage is also huge

[shadow ibex]

the stray BS and slayer nerfs + weak aura 4pc are the bad kind of bad

[nova marsh]

Tbh slayer being bad and colossus being basically the only way to realistically be competitive....yeah kinda killed it for me

Colo isn't bad but it dosen't hit righjt

[lean geode]

Can anyone link Anda's uwu execute/MS weakaura

Nvm found it https://wago.io/uLDjyWff7

[brisk flower]

Are we still prioing opportunist stacks over everything

In st*

[rain cipher]

What are the triggers?

[halcyon breach]

EP and Lethal Blows

Goes from uwu at 0/0
owo at 1/1

w< at 2/2

[teal fossil]

bruh

people are doing too much to just not use hekili

[shadow ibex]

weak aura 4pc

[halcyon breach]

Or they just decide to do funny WAs to track something they'd otherwise track with other means

[teal fossil]

banezi so toxic

[halcyon breach]

no just a consistent hekili hater

[teal fossil]

no way jose

[thick kelp]

Reading yellow

[ornate tendon]

Can someone help me understand my stats right now?
I have 620 ilvl, got a 6/6 hero neck in vault with tons of haste on it.
I have 13.7k haste (23.22%) and 5.2k crit (19.55%), and yet the sim tells me to replace all sockets with haste/vers over haste/crit or even crit/haste.
My vers is at 7k (11.02%-5.51%) btw as my main spec is prot

Is something wrong, or is crit not that important after all?

[midnight mural]

I have kaching sound on my ms thing for execute 😅

[boreal quartz]

Sikran neck?

Stats depend on other stats

Drop the sim ngl

[ornate tendon]

sikran neck yes

[thick kelp]

drop thje sim

[naive sage]

Us

[atomic mountain]

well i guess head then :/

[earnest imp]

anyone got that good execute WA that tells you stacks and stuff

[silent flame]

I was gonna craft a belt on this alt D:

[unborn oak]

can someone teach me how i sim gems? with the special one i want all different colors but raidbots always get rid of them and wants only 1 specific color

[atomic mountain]

its your bis belt

[silent flame]

Oh

ok nevermind

[atomic mountain]

you normaly craft wrists and cloak

[silent flame]

:DD:D:D:D:D:D:D
i just need to find a diffrent dawnthread slot

Kk

oh god that means imma have to find a crafting order for it

and most likeley get price gouged

This alt is getting special treatment by bliz wtf

First week mythic weapoN
next mythic sac
then mythic tier
Then mythic bis belt :D

[atomic mountain]

i made the same mistake 2 times. craftet wep 1 day before vault and got myth track wep as like my back 😄

[silent flame]

Lol

Never ccraft before vault day

[atomic mountain]

then you should never craft XD

it was before raid. raid times just suck

[bleak fog]

Best way to get what you want in vault is just to craft that item 636.. 100% you will get that slot in vault

[balmy kindle]

Well taking that helmet for 1% upgrade at 639

[slow saddle]

#fact

[thick kelp]

I crafted ring

will I now get Mythic queen ring

[slow saddle]

What would u take

Crit mastery belt - or chest piece

i have both on hc

[balmy kindle]

Chest

More stats

[slow saddle]

ok i presumed as much, it was just if belt was rare

i only hc anyways so chest it is ❤️

[balmy kindle]

I legit crafted neck and both rings because I know game will never provide

Surekis and queen ring ? They don't exist

[slow saddle]

hmm, i mean

is queen ring hc better than crafed ring?

[thick kelp]

depends

if u lack crit

[bleak fog]

Is it worth to go for a Amber and Sapphire for Culminating or shall we just go 3?

[thick kelp]

stamina no

versa yes

[bleak fog]

Sim tell me to go Mast/haste gems even that my gear is mostly fitted for Fury ><

[slow saddle]

well?

what are u simming first of all

st in st build

or m+ build?

[bleak fog]

Na m+

Yeah

M+ both single and dungeon slice just to see the dif

Have dropped mastery kinda far tho, as I sit on like 50% in fury 😛

But bot tell me what to do so I guess I just stick with that

[balmy kindle]

Kinda low haste no, but I guess it depends on gear

[midnight mural]

100%

[bleak fog]

Hmm, cant see that my mainstats pop if I use 3 or 4 of the gems..

Stay the same

[thick kelp]

liar, i got kyveza belt

Fy fan

[midnight mural]

what a shame lol

[thick kelp]

was a 99 parse

[boreal quartz]

Funny char name

[thick kelp]

Its even parsing like you

[boreal quartz]

Weirdly non grey

Real philwar is like orange rn cuz im so piss geared and havent done HC in 2 weeks

[half junco]

i haven't really checked but is Slayer really better than Colossus on Court

i'm progging as fury but i'm thinking of giving Arms a chance after we learn the mechanics

[thick kelp]

dont give a chance

u started fury u end fury

[half junco]

to or not to

[slow saddle]

arms is pretty much only for degen ppl atm aint it ?

vs just playing fury

[thick kelp]

?XD

[slow saddle]

fury lives way more even if planning

before Arms could somewhat compete if u knew shit was inc

with IP

but ip is so bad now

[austere willow]

Is Ovinaxs egg simbait? Or is it pretty good for arms?

[zenith warren]

I second this

[austere willow]

I know that sims basically measure it at 100% standing still

so always mainstat

[astral yarrow]

Walhe has posted conditionals override you can use to give a more realistic number

or "more realistic" isnt the right way to put it, but ya know

[thick kelp]

thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_initial_primary_stacks= 0-30 (default 20)
thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_desired_primary_stacks= 0-30 (default 20)
here is overrides
first is how many primary stacks you start with, second is how many primary stacks you maintain the buff at
in sims it plays 20 primary stat 10 2ndary

Mine is simming best at 15/15

bigsmile

[zenith warren]

I dont think I want to pay attention to egg stacks

cba

[austere willow]

I'm just looking at my personal statweights. And it's like

not that much of a difference whether mainstat or secondary

So I guess it's like. Don't click it at all

or click it

or whatever

[astral yarrow]

mate, what happens when you equip that trinket over another

to your stats

[austere willow]

I mean I'm simply wondering whether it's worth just using it

as in

the on-use

[astral yarrow]

sim it

set the movement stacks to 30 and the other at 0

[austere willow]

I did. Like an 0.3% increase.

Ah, fair

Didn't know you could do that

[astral yarrow]

overrides were literally just posted

stat weights are also bait

[austere willow]

That's what I mean. I didn't know before that post.

[astral yarrow]

dont bother looking at them

[thick kelp]

[quasi torrent]

override these

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/ExpansionOptions

this doc page

is very powerful

👍

[thick kelp]

this doc page

is blocked at my work

[quasi torrent]

???

block github so no one leaks company code? real

[thick kelp]

i dont even work with code bro

im just answering emails

[strange perch]

Kino

[quasi torrent]

really adding value there

[strange perch]

Zug zug said the peon near orgrimmar boar rancho

[thick kelp]

Doings gods work rn tho

hc transmitter for 300k

actually goated gold making strat

go press need on everything on shitty alt in HC raid

[strange perch]

We kick pugs from our raids for such behaviour

[thick kelp]

This is why i dont join guild pugs

full random pug with leader from some noname portugal/italy server

[quasi torrent]

yeah ure a fucking dickhead for this

[fiery kernel]

yo, what would be the best spec for the legion arms warrior challenge?

all the online talent builds i find are DF ones and won't import properly

[thick kelp]

im poor give me a break D .

[grand bough]

Hi guys just wondering if ovinax is good? It is simming really high and is second top in bloodmallet and i have it in my vault and its simming well for me but wondering why no one is using it? thanks

Is it a sim bait or

[thick kelp]

its good if u wanna bother with the stacks

and track them

but it requires good play

which we are allergic to

[grand bough]

Should we be trying to keep the main stat going or secondaries?

[thick kelp]

u can sim it

I posted how to sim like 30min ago

not that many messages to scroll up

[grand bough]

ok ty

[halcyon valve]

chat what are we thinking
mythic larynx or heroic transmitter

[fiery kernel]

yo could anyone help me with this

[quasi torrent]

maybe u should run hc first

[fiery kernel]

by ''legion arms warrior challenge'' i mean the mage tower

[quasi torrent]

probably just standard build

ngl

[thick kelp]

jst play the normal ST build

shld be g2g

[fiery kernel]

could you dm me it or drop the code here? every single one i find online is a DF one and won't import bc of the hero talent changes

[quasi torrent]

im not gonna go on wowhead -> arms guides -> builds

and select the ST build for u

[forest eagle]

Guys do we stack crit/mastery for keys?

[fiery kernel]

oh you don't have to no worries, my bad

[quasi torrent]

👍

[fiery kernel]

i think i'd rather go WCL > Mythic > warrior > arms > sikran, but same kind of deal :p cheers guys

[sacred zodiac]

@dawn stag sold one for 2 mil

[dawn stag]

I did

[sacred zodiac]

to @daring flicker

[thick kelp]

Holymoly

2mil for trinket

aintnoway

[daring flicker]

2 million gold!!!1!1!1!!

[fresh spire]

Omw to scam other players

[thick kelp]

profitable business

just make sure to be able to roll on fotm spc bis

[sacred zodiac]

i think you should stop being a bitch and hand it to the 2nd highest roller

[thick kelp]

no

deserved for fotm speccing

[bleak fog]

Need on stuff you don't need just to sell it right after is.. Well sad.

[sacred zodiac]

if even rudor is telling you you are sad you should reconsider immediately

[latent moss]

facts

(i do the same)

[thick kelp]

🤝

[icy mulch]

Fools and their money....

[silent flame]

I don’t think I’ve even made 2 million

[thick kelp]

this is how u can make your first 2 million

[silent flame]

True

[astral talon]

i need some assistance gentlemen

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uh7CX7ZJzmwc7Tp5aNxJd8

[silent flame]

But first I gotta find a pug group that’s smart

[astral talon]

transmitter sims slightly lower, literally 300dps

[silent flame]

But tbf
Pug groups are still 10x smarter than customers at where I work, genuinely

[dim basalt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r7m8jRGcjb1FTe9ort9243

ayyyy

About to break 1.5M

[silent flame]

Nice

I’m ashamed your character doesn’t look like your pfp

[dim basalt]

😦

[tacit crystal]

sim fury

[astral talon]

no

i refuse

either way, ill take either transmitter

or socket

😦

[dim basalt]

Socket tbh

Unless you also do M+ as arms

[silent flame]

I got bis belt this week on Ames

*arms

So I was happy

Once again blizzard spoiling Tf outta my arms alt

[astral talon]

ye thats what i use skarmorak for xD

[dim basalt]

I guess double on use works for M+

I dont think socket is that much worse tho

[silent flame]

Rn I got sac

Which is p good for arms cause of the haste right

My other one is the fucking crank trinket from BRD

X)

[shadow ibex]

X2 on use is cursed everywhere but brood fury I think

[slow saddle]

sac is good

[covert summit]

anyone good with weakauras? i would like a very simple rend tracker that shows the icon on the screen when rend is not active

[shadow ibex]

Take transmit for fury I would

To kill brood faster

[silent flame]

Tbh I’ve tried WAs myself and idk why the ones for arms feel weird to me

[boreal quartz]

Google rend weakaura

[silent flame]

Google en passant

[silent flame]

But yea tried three and I didn’t know if I understood them all fully

[boreal quartz]

Wdym tried all 3

There surely isnt just 3 weakauras

[thick kelp]

there is 4

[silent flame]

I meant the main 3 I saw on the wowhead page

Haha

[boreal quartz]

(5 if you count perry parry)

[silent flame]

I’m not saying there are only 3 weak auras

I’m not that stupid

I think

Or I hope rather

[boreal quartz]

Idk man try wago

Or make ur own

[silent flame]

Yea

I tried to but idk it just felt

Weird

[slow saddle]

m8

Arms warrior is clunky

ofc was are 2 ?:D

[silent flame]

Oh fair

[boreal quartz]

Idk man my was are slick as shit

Cuz self made

[silent flame]

Show :0

I might try it

[boreal quartz]

I dont give mine out

But it's basically @dull siren ui

But adjusted for my Taste and screen sizw

[silent flame]

Oh fair

[boreal quartz]

I traded foot pics for his ui

P cheap

[silent flame]

Mood

Tbh might just spam 8s on war alt instead of going only for 10s

Because I literally cannot get invited to pugs

[boreal quartz]

I did 1 10 this week

Cba

[silent flame]

Mood

On main it’s np

[boreal quartz]

War is my main

I just cba

[hushed pine]

I think it's time for me to start doing keys

[silent flame]

Fair

I’m just trying silly builds when I run my main in 10 keys

[boreal quartz]

I just play am fury slayer and brain off

[grand bough]

Hello guys just wondering what u are all playing in m+ talent wise, slayer or colo? I cant seem to get a good rhythm going with colo in m+... the cds dont seem to line up and my boss dmg is terrible. When all cds are up the pack damage is disgusting but otherwise feels meh

[slow saddle]

so

app u need a alot of CRIT

%

for colo to play better

[neon niche]

then slayer is ur way to go I guess
not too bursty on thrash but feels great on bosses

[slow saddle]

well colo isnt supposed to be that far behind on bosses

is it?

[neon niche]

but with all that said play colo kekW

[slow saddle]

well what are ya tips as a colo player?

apart from getting more crit

[grand bough]

i dunno why it felt so bad on bosses and the cds really do not line up at all, its odd

[slow saddle]

the cds is lacking crit

app + 35 % crit rly helps

[neon niche]

I mean I dont think its rocket science
follow regular arms prio
send demo on cd
if its an opener try to ravager up to 10 stacks and then send demo but dont hold it if ravager is on cd

[slow saddle]

and what build? coz it seems theres so many floating around

for most boss dmg possible

[neon niche]

for most boss damage u should play slayer dawg
look at ur comp, look at the key see whats needed

[vague lark]

I’ve recently been playing arms as my alt as WW is kinda yikes atm.
What I’ve found is, for the most part, if you have a CD available, use it. I only really save Avatar if a boss is coming up soon and don’t think I’ll have it up for the boss. I tend I to hold off on pressing a CD instantly before checking if something else is coming up maybe to double up on CDs, but that’s only if it’s within a few seconds.

My 14ilvl lower Warr with less than optimal gear feels better and pulls more deeps than my Windwalker 😅

[slow saddle]

ofc but my point was trying to make a good balanced collosus build that does at least decent st. coz if i only wanted st id just play thane

[wanton ravine]

Ya know, I had a pretty decent pull last night at almost 625 ilvl as Arms and did 1.2m dps. The lock an pally there are about 610ilvl and can keep up or almost keep up in some cases. Once they gear up to my level I imagine Im not even going to come close to keeping up for the effort -_-

[halcyon valve]

Well paladin has a lot of ranged spells, and warlock is ranged
When the boss dashes away for mechanics they dont lose as much dps as warriors do

[dim basalt]

Wait until you have to play that boss in mythic

Its so unforgiving

[wanton ravine]

For reals? I had to switch off to Fury last night for brood, just needed way more aoe than Arms had iin burst.

[dim basalt]

On heroic the mechanics dont matter and you can cheese a lot better to do more dps

On mythic not playing mechanics becomes a wipe real fast which means you have to do nothing for 5+ seconds whenever you get the mechanic

And if you cant refresh jugg and dont get a sd proc right after jumping back in its gg

Princess feels less stressful than Sikran

[boreal quartz]

Mythic brood is 100% fury fight

Dont worry

[shadow ibex]

I just get bopped on princess

0 downtime

[dim basalt]

bopped during what

[shadow ibex]

If you get a charge

Bop means you don't shit orbs

[dim basalt]

wait really?

[shadow ibex]

Yes

[dim basalt]

I lowkey need that

[shadow ibex]

I make our hpal do it

[dim basalt]

Dot rips me apart

[shadow ibex]

Yea otherwise arms is just cringe ASF to play there

Super downtime + AM

[remote ledge]

in CoT what do u run as colo ? or do u straight up go for juggernaut slayer

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-washington-imleavingherewithsomething-gif-11649589946833923748

[dim basalt]

Time to convince our raidlead that I get a bop for charge

We have like 3 paladins or so

[shadow ibex]

2 rets and an hpal

[dim basalt]

And I guess the only melees that need bop are war dk rogue

[thick kelp]

Send help to my alt

[shadow ibex]

Dk has clawing

[thick kelp]

its lacking something crucial

[shadow ibex]

You should get one period

Just have hpal make bop @ char name

[dim basalt]

Glad I may not have to do the first real day of progress on that boss tho

I was amazed at how bad some people are at getting mechanics quickly yesterday

Like princess really does nothing complex

[steep osprey]

nobody uses clawing anymore

[steep osprey]

delete trinkets

[livid cloak]

Mbg. Ep, massacre, 2x bb 2x deft. Could drop 1 bb for bl. Would not run EB for city of threads

[modest carbon]

I run the same in all dungeons. Uproar, MBG, BL, EB, 1/2 BB, EP. Only change in Dawn where I go 2/2 BB instead of EP.

Actually in CoT I run Honed Reflexes instead of 1/2 Overwhelming Rage specifically for last boss

[livid cloak]

Bm torment is fun and plays well in a few dungeons

Vs uproar

[modest carbon]

I dunno, seems low value if using EB, and does nothing on ST

[honest zenith]

has anyone toyed around with the idea to do a colossus build on ovi to do more targeted dmg on spiders or would you just do slayer build

[eager sigil]

got 619 in both slots and they sim about the same

do i just take the neck?

[latent siren]

Worth sending demo at 10 rather than in colossus smash window?

[boreal quartz]

CD on CD

Or you waste cdr

[latent hull]

What talent build do we use

[boreal quartz]

You can rotate a LOT in keys

[remote ledge]

i went for classic dumb build full proc, eb didn't do much yea, but we timed it in 12 so its good

[livid cloak]

I feel like eb loses out on a lot of value of you aren't cleaving a ton. And cot has a lot of places where you want to ms more than cleave

[honest zenith]

do we gem diffrent color gems for the extra meta gem?

[boreal quartz]

Ye ideally

[modest carbon]

EB works on MS. While MS on it's own without riders isn't super value, the extra CDR to Demo is quite big

[livid cloak]

I know it does, but the rage makes it hard to repeatedly ms, and battlelord is just better if you would rather ms more

[halcyon valve]

BL resets own in singletarget tbh

[livid cloak]

Eb itself feels like mbg gambling

Or reap gambling if slayer

[modest carbon]

Hard to rage starve if you have skyfury, even during execute phase. I try to never run without a shaman

[fresh spire]

Gamba is fun

Just adds that little bit of indifference to the rotation. Keeps my brain awake a little more when I get those 4 back to back ms

[modest carbon]

I get more dopamine from MS EB chains than Cleave chains, especially with SS up for that sweet CDR

[fresh spire]

Feelsgudman

[halcyon valve]

Hear me out
We do a million MS with EB and BL
then we pop fatality at 300 stacks

[fresh spire]

Fatality still poo

Fatal needs to scale with mastery or something to really bring it back from the dead

[remote ledge]

i like playing with both, MS and BL, just spam abilities, have fun

[thick kelp]

Philwar making first appearance in mythic @boreal quartz

[finite mantle]

hoooly

[midnight mural]

@visual fern i managed to get 40% crit for silken... Tonight is the night we kill 🙏 pray for me

[visual fern]

[finite mantle]

[boreal quartz]

Bro is ilvl logging

Holy

[shadow ibex]

the talent that has 100% pickrate on princess the fight we are talking about?

[steep osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/waltergotme-gif-18867690

[finite mantle]

something something low pickrate innit

[steep osprey]

Makes sense for that boss but everywhere else I don't think you'll see anyone using it

I could be wrong again

[shadow ibex]

was talking about war losing uptime on princess when other melee can chill and do ranged attacks

[steep osprey]

ok nvm then

i don't remember why i said that in the first place

pepega moment

[thick kelp]

most certainly, not even that rat at 620

[naive sage]

Great announcement at Warcraft direct arms has been deleted

[honest zenith]

sims dont count the bonus effect from the metagem? cuz it tells me to use just one type of gem

[slim cypress]

are you supposed to get all the different blue gems to amplify effect from the purple one?

[placid topaz]

i kinda like arms, but i dislike skullsplitter so much

[steep osprey]

poggers

[naive sage]

Current sks is the most unsatisfying thing ever, especially considering what they changed it from

The bleed expire was a cool niche

[lean bough]

How do I get this transmog

https://tenor.com/view/garrosh-orgrimmar-walking-warcraft-gif-16112512

[tardy crag]

From seige of orgrimar in mop.

[halcyon valve]

Also reasonably strong burst for important adds

[shadow ibex]

reapplying stuff was just bad gameplay

not that expiring faster and so more rend GCDs is better gameplay

someone at blizz thinks they are super clever and cooked big with current sks + TR so i think we are stuck with this

[regal wharf]

uh

so

is motherlode in M+

or is it a goblin mega dungoen

[tidal moth]

yes

[steep osprey]

There's a goblin mega dungeon

and motherlode

is seperate from that

it's just the non-current expac dungeon

there's always 4 of them each season, 3 with megadungeons

[regal wharf]

did people like motherlode?

[steep osprey]

I don't know

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp eg?

[shadow ibex]

we cant possibly know what the mega dungeon version would be like

[steep osprey]

Don't remember

[thick kelp]

eg

if u can be arsed to track

[boreal quartz]

shoulders drop, belt doesnt exist for players

[boreal quartz]

ngl i wait for raid

since both tier is ilvl for me

[thick kelp]

bwah

then deffo

[boreal quartz]

i mean my tier situation

is lowkey disgustingly bad

our tokens have all been the mage one

[devout pewter]

so, the big secret announcement wasnt warrior rework. I guess we can now expect it to be at least after the third addon now?

[gaunt owl]

what secret ?

i'm secretly disappointed

[devout pewter]

at the end of the direct

[gaunt owl]

the concert ?

dude its so epic

[devout pewter]

the housing announcement 😄 But yea the concert is nice

[gaunt owl]

oh garrison 2.0

imagine having it 10 years later than FF14

[devout pewter]

haha, now lets hope they realise they have to make it 10 years better too

[naive sage]

I guess the house will just have cosmetic purposes unlike the garrison

[devout pewter]

i mean, would be quite cool for starters. Stuff like guild houses and even the mission things ffxiv has can come later

[naive sage]

I need those dev notes updates damn

[dire hinge]

hoping they learned from garisons and avoid the isolating feelings garisons created

[halcyon valve]

6 mill mortal strike this is why we keep gambling

90% of arms warriors quit before they hit the big mortal strike

[gaunt owl]

real and true

[random ridge]

Jesus

[floral sierra]

umm what stats u guys running?

im thinking of going arms, but im using pvp gear that i re-rolled from fury to arms

do we run little crit?

like 13% should be enough i guess

[dire hinge]

more crit is good, but usually just follow Raidbots recommendations and sime as you go

PvE will use less vers and a lot more Crit, but generally you're on the right path

just sim as you go

[floral sierra]

yeah i just guess i should play arms instead of fury now

since my fury build only has 23% mastery

lmao

i re-rolled from 45% mastery 11% haste into this

basically

[dire hinge]

tbf 13% crit (arms) vs 23% mastery (fury) are both quite low for either spec

so roll whichever one you like more

[floral sierra]

alright ty

[cobalt sinew]

would they ever make battlefield commander a real talent

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp

that is not me

cant win em all

[thick kelp]

which spec

ele?

[boreal quartz]

wl

reroll since our main one quit the game

[thick kelp]

[floral sierra]

honestly they should lol

would increase warrior demand

[devout pewter]

Gonna be relatively hard.. even in FFXIV where you're in a Zone with 59 other people and their houses, you rarely meet or even see someone around. I'm just gonna hope it's not just a small instance with just one or two rooms. Multiple sizes, outdoor "garden" stuff, would be really nice

or was it just 29 and the second instance one went up to 60.... can't remember from the top of my head lmao

[shadow ibex]

probably gonna use delve invisable loading screen tech

[tender pecan]

never quit

[halcyon valve]

damn right

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp

running it down

[thick kelp]

love parry btw

[astral talon]

got 7 on rashanan, 2s before last set of adds spawns

i wanna kill myself 😦

i'd have fucking #1

[boreal quartz]

bro i think we kill now but i died in intermiss cuz i left myself get clipped

icant

[thick kelp]

icant

xddd

[boreal quartz]

[thick kelp]

did u get any loot

i closed strim

[boreal quartz]

maybe belt

pala also kinda wants it

but i have socket on mine

pala got i think

[thick kelp]

life of warrior

wcyd

[boreal quartz]

its ok

i have socketed cata belt

[floral sierra]

do we cleave 2-3 targets

after bladestorm

with slayer build for m+

[boreal quartz]

yes

[mild sierra]

Brown man vs Kyveza

[floral sierra]

okay arms pumping

[mild sierra]

brown class is so back

[floral sierra]

havent pve'd in like 1.5months

6? vaults skipped

i think

hopped into a dungeon tried fury and arms

arms feels better imo

[serene hollow]

brown man... with aug?

[mild sierra]

no aug

[boreal quartz]

what disgusting jugg did u carry

[boreal quartz]

15 stack into exe?

[mild sierra]

lemme see

i was topping going into execute

[floral sierra]

saw my MS crit at 4mil

kinda big

[boreal quartz]

looks like a good one

[serene hollow]

that number is crazy, that beats previous rank 1 by like 15%

eh, 10

[mild sierra]

by like 200k

[finite mantle]

d2 just one time pls stop owning

[mild sierra]

was like 6 stacks goijng into exe

[boreal quartz]

still good

[mild sierra]

nop

[gaunt matrix]

is that to much crit for arms lmao

thats unbuffed

[naive sage]

Nice propic king

[tranquil sundial]

i hope they nuke shamans off the game next patch

they need to

[naive sage]

One of my favorite albums ever

[tranquil sundial]

literally cannot even get into 10s with 2800 score 633 warrior

and i blame shaman

[astral yarrow]

i get in mostly instantly at 2650 and 636

[mild sierra]

tyking

[mild sierra]

got the vinyl hanging on the wall beside my pc

[naive sage]

[unkempt tundra]

whats best for arms rn? slayer or colossus? more for m+

[dire hinge]

both are good, but Colossus is very strong

[kindred mesa]

On Arms, for the less obvious things to track (as apposed to Colossus Slam which is an ability I press) I'm tracking:
Overpower stacks
Executioner's Precision stacks
Lethal Blow stacks
Opportunist stacks
Marked for Execution
Juggernaut

Am I missing anything?

[shadow ibex]

rend

[kindred mesa]

lol yeah I see that as an obvious one 😋.

[shadow ibex]

i track collat stack/duration

but thats colossus m+

[serene hollow]

a very minor gain, but a weakaura that prompts you to use free executes only when: sudden death is about to expire, juggernaut is about to expire, or you have 2 sudden deaths. Otherwise it is technically a very minor dps gain to hold

if you don't have a weakaura to do this, don't bother trying

[cobalt sinew]

would mountain thane be any good if we had it on arms

[kindred mesa]

My execute WA is pretty all purpose. The only thing it doesn’t do is track 2 stacks of Sudden Death, I’ll add it today.

Thanks

[kindred mesa]

I haven’t really touched Colossus, I’ll have a look thanks.

[nova marsh]

For keys it's a good idea to just go colo

[quaint otter]

Man im getting invited as 625 elem in 2-3 applies and wait 10+ mins often as 632 ww

Not to say its even longer as 625 armsussy

[latent moss]

i wouldnt call it minor at all

if u are playing slayer

you have to follow sd conditionals

sending a sd too early and big jugg falling off right before exe

is alt f4 worthy

[serene hollow]

You have to get really lucky to string together a lot of juggernauts right before execute, it can be worth a lot, but it could also not be worth anything

and everything inbetween

[serene hollow]

and also this as evidence from this recent rank 1 #arms message

[latent moss]

ye d2 doesnt follow conditionals and doesnt think about which buttons he is pressing

thats how he is perma r1 every tier

[cobalt sinew]

does battle shout and mountain of muscle and scar offset the loss from defensive stance

[serene hollow]

his post literally shows he's not waiting for every conditional to press sudden death, he just got a shit ton of them and did hella dam

he's on the right in the meme btw

[cobalt sinew]

its always right

wow, xiv, you always have midwits

[nova marsh]

I mean I guess

But like....it's a comedically small loss as long as yopu aren't using dstance in CDs

[strange perch]

Conditionals are for nerds, high apm = high dps as long as the A you click is in the rotation

10$ says rank 1 casted more times than rank 2

[regal wharf]

warrior would be the perfect class for lust tbh

like

scream so loud it makes people faster

[spring pilot]

I feel like the same principle can be applied to battle rezs. I could absolutely see a Warrior shouting so loud at the corpse of a friend that it scares them to life.

[fervent glen]

in single target when you have cleave specced, do you use cleave over slam?

[rustic knot]

Is treacherous transmitter bait? I feel like my CDs don't work well with the trinket

[nova marsh]

Guys

So I'm in with a key with an arms who is trash

How do help

[dull siren]

@woven wasp

was worth killing ?? zekvir again

[nova marsh]

No

But was it fun?

yes

[dull siren]

No

[nova marsh]

Then no it wasn't worth it

ngl guys

I have no idea how someone got carried to 622

and dosen't even outdps the healer

Or get carried to 2.2k rating

which should be fine for a 9

[finite wasp]

Hol up