#arms

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untold pewter
short mango
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Is there something weird about haste and simming? Haste is by far my highest stat, and its simming by far my best stat to acquire.

untold pewter
earnest imp
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How many times did he go out for orbs? In your log

urban iron
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why does raider.io report zero arms warriors have timed a key above a 12

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surely that can't be right

untold pewter
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Why are my skills just hitting for less

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Significantly less

urban iron
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nevermind they're there, its just so few it doesnt even register

regal wharf
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Oh fr?

sacred zodiac
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its just flat cdr during cdr windows it doesnt like

earnest imp
untold pewter
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But vers does not sim good for me...

earnest imp
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I am on kyvesa now as well so will be curious if someone more knowledgeable picks something up

signal isle
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Can anyone suggest a hero talent for me? I generally do keys under level 8 for now but am working on pushing further

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I enjoy both. Colossus feels really great so far

nova marsh
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I'd go with colo if you like it

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The aoe is just too damn good

halcyon valve
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Colossus giga

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I love it when big number

regal socket
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why are there bugs around my character model

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?

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like insects flying around me?

civic isle
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I think its a glow effect (from sword maybe) being picked up in relief from outline

regal socket
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no like if i zoom in its clearly bats flapping their wings

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or something

civic isle
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yeah right

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lmoa halloween secret buff

halcyon valve
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Might be some toy that makes you stinky, check buffs

visual fern
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@wintry jewel Is sham dead

wintry jewel
visual fern
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I need him to open my aotc lockoutin like 45min

wintry jewel
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he's liking enhance though. Specifically the ankh

visual fern
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He offered and then ghosted me

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LMAO

wintry jewel
regal socket
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why the fuck are people tanking the grim batol dragon boss against hte wall

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makes it 10x harder

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no room to dodge tornadoes

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ads spawn on top of u

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nonsense

earnest imp
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If it's done right it's easier

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Adds spawn under boss and get insta killed

regal socket
astral yarrow
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Max range boss and tornados won’t hit you and adds die in an aoe stun

earnest imp
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What key level are you at?

regal socket
earnest imp
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Maybe just unlucky with the tanks

wind flicker
livid cloak
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Definitely makes that fight way easier

charred olive
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do you guys prefer ravager at ground or at cursor?

minor gust
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do you mean at player?

fluid rune
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Is this enough cleave dmg %%? (+10 sv with 19 deaths lmao)

lean bough
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I'm hitting test dummy right now and I'm always overcapped on rage

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Why

ionic shell
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Angy

shadow ibex
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slayer doesnt spend rage well

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colossus you will be starved in exe

boreal quartz
rare talon
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Hi, can we make a macro with mortal strike and slam?

tulip breach
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are there like, pinned guides or an faq or anything like that?

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ah nvm

scarlet spade
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guys, just asking. what is best embelisment now? versa, crit or ascendance?

boreal quartz
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Also ms can self reset with some talents so a cast sequence wont work optimally either

rare talon
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Ty

vast surge
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Just saw arms played in the MDI, made my day 🤣

atomic mountain
vast surge
atomic mountain
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and he was the carry

boreal quartz
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Walli diff

midnight mural
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colossus fucks

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lol... after first boss.. what is this healer / tank damage... ??? that is absurd. Healers/Tanks in MDI do more dam on 1st boss mists than 99% of all pugs DPS do..

thick kelp
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heart of the wild + cat form convoke brrr

boreal quartz
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Soda no procca...

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Zorthas does 6 milly there

thick kelp
bleak fog
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If I gonna craft a neck that works good with both Arms and Fury is Crit/master the way to go? 🙂

thick kelp
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Haste mastery would prolly be better

scarlet spade
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so, what best embelishement? versa/crit/ascen?

atomic mountain
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doubble versa. but if you have no possability to get a myth trac bis wep go for ascen craft wep

scarlet spade
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ok

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ty

tacit sandal
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Anyone has link to arms appearance in mdi

atomic mountain
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what do you want exactly? the talents?

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if yes

CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYmZMjZMzsMbLLjZAAAAYw0wMDLDzAjlxMzgZGGGDzwAAAAAAAgZMbjxAsFAsZGDLwAzoNaAsA

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i have 2 questions caused by wowhead:

  1. Do we realy pull Demolish in opener or do we build our stacks first?
  2. What are we doing in exe phase? i only played slayer jugganout before and there i only spammed exe XD
thick kelp
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  1. In ST, Yes you demolish in opener. In Aoe depending on your talents you will want to delay till 6 stacks if DN or 10 if SoA
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  1. In execute phase as colossus you follow same rule as with Slayer. Execute till 2x EP & LB or rend/dw falling off
atomic mountain
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DN and SoA are?

thick kelp
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talents in your talent tree, dreadnaught and strength of arms

atomic mountain
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thx 😄

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mby thats my mistake cause someone told me i dont exe. only for my 2 stacks 😄 will try it then

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do we go crit flask or chaos flask with colo?

thick kelp
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sim

strange perch
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@boreal quartz

scarlet spade
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sim say that chaos better than crit D:

atomic mountain
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I know but some run with crit thats why i asked^^

thick kelp
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Mostly people who has crit simmng them better

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who r mostly ppl who commited gear into fury and hence have not much crit

atomic mountain
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check

remote ledge
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Cos that 70% less damage seems a lot, but at the same time you lose all BL value

thick kelp
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ms on cd if no ep

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execute is slam tier filler if no ep

remote ledge
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Alright perfect

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I might give colo a try with this

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But once you're in 12 reap procs just feel too good

empty sluice
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Slayer owns

remote ledge
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Yea, recently I been playing mostly some full aoe build, and it slaps, if the key is high enough ppl don't beat me

remote ledge
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Btw, is 30% crit naked enough to go colo?

tacit crystal
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ive been playing colo at 25%

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just play well

plain hollow
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what´s the sweetspot u wanna play ovinaxx egg trink with 20x primary and 10x secondary?

thick kelp
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sim it for yourself

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sim plays it 20/10

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I found better results at 15/15

plain hollow
thick kelp
# plain hollow how do you simulate the stacks in sim?

thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_initial_primary_stacks= 0-30 (default 20)

thewarwithin.ovinaxs_mercurial_egg_desired_primary_stacks= 0-30 (default 20)

here is overrides

first is how many primary stacks you start with, second is how
many primary stacks you maintain the buff at

plain hollow
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thank you!

regal wharf
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finally reached 2.5k IO

atomic mountain
# empty sluice Slayer owns

I was at this point too but colo gives more survive ability to arms. I am sad but i run mor dmg and higher keys since i swapped

empty sluice
wanton sierra
livid cloak
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You can do either

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Dn feels really nice in nw, db, sv

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Anywhere you can get big pulls

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But the difference is pretty minimal

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Between the 2 in that node

thick kelp
empty sluice
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Slarms

livid cloak
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Anecdotally I just don't see the damage as slayer arms in keys

thick kelp
empty sluice
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Check the #2 guy

thick kelp
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ah

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China hacker

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Why isnt the run in his wclogs

tacit crystal
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no ep as slayer

thick kelp
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wanted to see

tacit crystal
wanton sierra
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i cant even see his gear ):

thick kelp
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Bwah but this is the guy

tacit crystal
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oh yeah

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i know

thick kelp
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who has been doing the worst builds to mankind

tacit crystal
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🙂

thick kelp
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and he is losing to his aug

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on logs

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in dps

atomic mountain
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but he has done the 1st 17+ als slarms kek

astral yarrow
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he just really nice to be around

tacit crystal
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how much you want to bet

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this guy is just buying title

wanton sierra
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at least he is buffin xammy with battle shout

atomic mountain
thick kelp
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since its china I wouldnt even be suprised if this guy is actually getting boosted

wanton sierra
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damn but healer dmg, tank dmg... all of other 4 ppl on group compensate his lack of dam

atomic mountain
tacit crystal
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its possible

thick kelp
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Well if he is playing along its not

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which he clearly is

atomic mountain
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Loocking for 17+ boost. paying 200k gold XD

tacit crystal
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2*10^7

wanton sierra
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i belive the arms china is just an alt. he must have an meta class maxed out, with tons of IO with the same team, but now and then he goes as arms, and get boosted

tacit crystal
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why does he actively choose to play 0 damage builds then

hazy flower
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Thats prob the case, I’d be surprised if they boost 17 nw so at this point in the season

atomic mountain
wanton sierra
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even with low dam, he must has some knowledge about how to perform on high m+

thick kelp
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maybe he is even getting piloted too

astral yarrow
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Pile On

thick kelp
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some guy with no knowledge of arms just playing random builds on his account

atomic mountain
wanton sierra
astral yarrow
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He did not copy paste wowhead

astral talon
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what was the title for?

astral yarrow
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is wowhead even reachable from china actually

tacit crystal
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they dont have access to wowhead in china?

wanton sierra
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just figure of speach, you understand my point

atomic mountain
astral talon
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is the title spec specific?

tacit crystal
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no

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just region

wanton sierra
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and seein his friends comp, i bet he is frost dk on his main xD

atomic mountain
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no. tiltle is just you where top 0,1% of all m+ player

astral talon
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fair

atomic mountain
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well i think noone knows what the title means (is a shit title name) so it brings nothing. if you search for a m+ team you could say "hey i have title i know what to do"

astral yarrow
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Negative IQ player base will cry about anything and everything. If you're sh$t at the game, then don't do mythic plus. Content shouldn't be dumbed down becuase you're bad and want to be handed everything. Be thankful they're even doing this for you mechanics-challenged dolts. Stick to pet battles and delves if it isn't your speed.

Sincerely,

Mplus Title Holder

astral talon
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lmao

astral yarrow
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at least the original poster was polite enough to put "sincerely" there

empty sluice
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Guy is doing 15++ and 17 and getting shit on

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Wow

thick kelp
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Are you sure he is doing them

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pilav xd emote

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if you scim thru his logs, this guy is fighting the tanks in damage and running the worst builds i have seen

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like slayer with massacre, no EP

astral talon
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but he pays 👍

tacit crystal
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then i love him

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❤️

thick kelp
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if you compare his logs to other top io arms players you can see they are pulling much much more in keys

empty sluice
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Yea because you are Not fighting tanks with colossus st right xd

thick kelp
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no?

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im not

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other people arent either idk

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and its a dungeon overall

atomic mountain
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Niiol just dont say Slayer owns and noone gats analysed to death XD

thick kelp
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where he is fighting the tanks

livid cloak
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This is like my daily reminder that class discord is the wild west

tacit crystal
empty sluice
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Idk I think that build is legit

astral yarrow
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usually just #fury leaking

thick kelp
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You think slayer massacre no Ep build is legit

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in Dawn +17

livid cloak
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Massacre without ep???

tacit crystal
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sean the problem is he is playing slayer without ep

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like wtf

thick kelp
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the no EP argument is good for Dawn

atomic mountain
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MASSACRE WITHOUT EP!!!!!

thick kelp
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but then massacer?

tacit crystal
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im sayin git

wanton sierra
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there is no question that the guy knows high m+ scenario, but his builds are odds and lacks dam, the numbers of m+ completed points towards that warrior is an alt of an big guy with big score... coz no low keys done, he jumped to 10s

livid cloak
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I need coffee to read this

tacit crystal
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this guy has to be buying title

atomic mountain
thick kelp
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Like his build otherwise is good for Dawn

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Going for lots of aoe here obv

empty sluice
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Sim massacre Vs ep there

wanton sierra
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sorry patricius, my mother language is not english so i have some hard time triyng to make my point

empty sluice
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Result is the same

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For st

atomic mountain
wanton sierra
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maybe he come to try to single target bosses ^^ xD

finite mantle
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-100000000 social credit score for a build like that

thick kelp
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Same result?

daring heron
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i tried it as slayer

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didnt like

atomic mountain
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yes but you are not the ONE AND ONLY chinese arms pro XD

empty sluice
thick kelp
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susg

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0.3% sounds more like Massacre vs EB or BB

atomic mountain
empty sluice
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Idk im playing same build Just with ep no massacre and its Just fine

thick kelp
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Yes, which is a great build

wanton sierra
thick kelp
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its not really a great node anymore

empty sluice
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Both talents are bit weak imo

thick kelp
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True

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BF is within variance of CC in 8target 40s and 0.7% ahead in ST for me

livid cloak
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I wonder how much diff it would be to just forego execute completely in keys. Drop ep and mass for like battlelord and sks.

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Just for less rage starved feelsbad play

astral yarrow
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negative ST damage is my guess lol

thick kelp
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Very ass ST

astral talon
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you do big st dmg without ep and massacre still

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you just spam more demolishes XD

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battlelord is #1 talent for me personally

fresh spire
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Execute refreshes demolish all the same as ms does just without it spending so much rage but the extra rage converts into ep

astral talon
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can't enjoy the spe without it

fresh spire
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I love battlelord

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Even using it on silken progress

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Dropped jug/critical

astral talon
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hmm

fresh spire
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Feels goodman

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Best pull so far after the 3.15 lust was doing around 2m dps

astral yarrow
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Jugg is a banger optimization with a 3:30 lust compared to the 20% lust people did on early prog

fresh spire
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But still have yet to get to end

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Yeh we do the p2 lust with ramping dispels

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Lust on 2nd dispel it lasts through to end of damage amp

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Smack boss

astral yarrow
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dropping a 15 stack jugg shortly before double amp because i overspent rage cuz panic and then get parried on the swing that would save it is peak arms gameplay

fresh spire
finite mantle
thick kelp
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Shadowlands Enthusiast Krispi

fresh spire
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I was sod arms prio back

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Frfr

finite mantle
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Frfr

thick kelp
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frfr

fresh spire
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Execute filler. Mortal strike fucks

finite mantle
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arms isn’t arms without ms innit

astral yarrow
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I actually really liked SL arms, even though it was kind of boring

thick kelp
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Bought the title at start of event and equipped it on all warriors

karmic matrix
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Is haste only presumed to be the best or #2 stat because of slayer? Every sim I've had the last few weeks has been deprioing haste so much that I now run about 33% crit + 21%haste/21%mastery for M+

thick kelp
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Colossus prefers the 20% haste

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slayer wants more

karmic matrix
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Makes sense, am running colossus so I'm just at that cap then

thick kelp
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not a cap

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more of a breakpoint

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once you get closer to 25-26% haste

astral yarrow
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scaling

thick kelp
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it will start rising in value

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Colossus SCALES

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very well

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with crit %

astral yarrow
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SCALING

karmic matrix
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I was at 27% haste prior to this week - just been getting it lowered in favor mastery a lot when simming

thick kelp
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Scaling is so back

astral talon
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this is what i usually run now

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this is what i used to run

unreal halo
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hey guys, i have been wondering if i should use the crafted sword and wrist or not because i have a 639 wpn

karmic matrix
astral talon
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ip is dogshit

thick kelp
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IP shield value stuck in DF

astral talon
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ive never had a situation in which ip would save me

karmic matrix
astral talon
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12s mostly

astral yarrow
finite mantle
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surely they bring ip into the 21st century some point this expac

astral talon
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400k shield wont change shit

astral yarrow
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you are comitting 2 crafts either way

astral yarrow
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ofc

thick kelp
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70% is already equal

karmic matrix
astral talon
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if i could not take any of them

thick kelp
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and anything above is beter

astral talon
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i would drop

rancid solstice
astral talon
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if it was it'd be op

astral yarrow
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i only really see ansurek being a bad thread fight

karmic matrix
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is the fucking talent tree broken

karmic matrix
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that would make me furious ngl

astral talon
atomic mountain
finite mantle
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hooooly

rancid solstice
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The tooltip doesn’t match what you get from ip it doesn’t do shit

finite mantle
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big shielder

astral talon
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if it was 1.9mil like my tooltip says

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i'd play it ALWAYS

karmic matrix
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ah, jokes on me for expecting shit to work like it says

thick kelp
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its up to 1.9m

karmic matrix
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no wonder I feel like I die sometimes when I think it should save me

thick kelp
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if you press it enough times

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bigsmile

atomic mountain
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XD

finite mantle
thick kelp
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350k per press

rancid solstice
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The absolute state of it

astral talon
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checking

thick kelp
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need to press it like 6 times or so

astral talon
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4

thick kelp
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Close

astral talon
karmic matrix
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what a fucking joke

astral talon
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nevermind, 5

finite mantle
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close

thick kelp
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bwoah

astral talon
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only 5 presses to have a shield

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that's 1.3 of ams?

thick kelp
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also we dont have the rage to press it once in execute

astral talon
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ye that too

thick kelp
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so it loses full value there

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What other spec loses access to their defensive once boss hits a certain % of hp

rancid solstice
astral talon
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eb you can rage starve

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bl you won't

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xD

rancid solstice
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I also have too much haste so I need help not ragecapping sometimes

fresh spire
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Used to be that much last expansion chatting

rancid solstice
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Thought about dropping bonegrinder but it’s actually the collateral stacks you take with you to next pack where you really want it

astral talon
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mbg is weird

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cuz you dont rly get FULL benefit of collateral

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cuz you'd want 4set, and 2x op

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but you cant cuz it consumes it with unhinged

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xD

astral yarrow
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MBG being hasted is criminal lol

fresh spire
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Mbg is as hasted as your gcd

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You will always get the same amount of gcds during window regardless of 30% haste or 10% haste. Just feels shit the duration is lower when it's "basically the same"

astral yarrow
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Give me a static time and let haste fix whether i get 5 or 6 cleaves

fresh spire
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This bad boy can fit so many cleaves

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Doesn't matter when eb procs 6 times back to back

tacit crystal
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fit deez

fresh spire
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Best feeling in the world when your on your 6th ms and you feel like your commiting a sin

fresh spire
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Had a pull on silken last night where I did 5. Didn't get reset. Hit op get reset do another 3 ms

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Feelsgoodman

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All during boss stacked sweep

tacit crystal
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why did blizzard nerf battlelord

fresh spire
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They had too

finite mantle
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woke

modest carbon
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And all crits, for that sweet Demo CDR okayge

fresh spire
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If they didn't overpower would have been even more cringe

tacit crystal
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explain fish

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my brain not function after no sleep

finite mantle
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too much brain rot

tacit crystal
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no

fresh spire
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Op already strong

tacit crystal
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too much wow rot

fresh spire
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Bl used to give overpower % damage

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Just flat

tacit crystal
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thats right

fresh spire
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If they didn't remove that amp probs would overpower >ms in slayer fr

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Why does each hero tree have so much op damage

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Pretty sure colossus has like 5% per stack or something stupid

tacit crystal
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yarp

quasi torrent
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to heal ur fucking character

thick kelp
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disc should be using pwshield on cd on u

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
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spongie u cant say this

astral talon
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one good tank

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plenty good dps

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😦

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
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🧐

thick kelp
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17 dawn now irrelevant

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china got 18 dawn cleared

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its joever for this chinese arm warrior

finite mantle
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noway

fresh spire
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China number 1

livid cloak
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11k dps loss it shows, 1t 5 min, to drop ep/mass for sks and bl

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Doesn't rage starve at all in execute, feels really nice to play, but is less dam lol

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makes no sense idk

fresh spire
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Sks sucks ass in keys. Better to use massacre or eb imo

livid cloak
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I agree, just wanted to see what the diff was

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May play around with minus 1 bb and plus 1 bl

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Looks like gelly did a 0 bb run of dawnbreaker

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whew no ty to that build

tacit crystal
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you trying to do negative damage

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or

livid cloak
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was just copying his 16 db build and hit some dummies with it

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did not like

tacit crystal
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that guy needs prison

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🙂

fresh spire
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Die sks die

finite mantle
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too real krispo

fresh spire
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Torment sweep is a fucking sin vs 45 second roar

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0 St scaling with just a little more aoe scaling. Running eb and that just deadge

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Already using half cd cleave eb just overkill at that point

livid cloak
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REALLY BAD is what it is lol

boreal quartz
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Let the guy cook

fresh spire
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Im cooked

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It feels fine on silken due to the stacked bossed and bl early. But imo shit for queen

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Been playing eb colossus as its barely a loss vs 2bb and feels more engaging

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But was playing bl for memes last night and honestly felt alright

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(I ain't beating g-arms rank 1 any time soon)

boreal quartz
boreal quartz
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Just more fun ngl

livid cloak
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Noooo

wanton sierra
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our bleeds arent huge but it keeps ticin

nova marsh
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Our bleeds are still p big

halcyon valve
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Yeppers

wanton sierra
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how much it represents on m+? 20% ish?

shadow ibex
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all of them together maybe yea

teal fossil
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Yeah it’s pretty big

shadow ibex
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now just make fatality a bleed so it ignores armor

teal fossil
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May as well

shadow ibex
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and gets buffed by bb ofc

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not TR tho popping fatal with TR would be like tom fatality adjacent cringe

hushed pine
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Make it make Execute worth pressing. Make it so that Execute actually executes

rigid obsidian
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anyone had any issues when speccing to arms and your character doesnt have whirlwind? am i blind is there a talent that takes it away? colossus btw

livid cloak
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Cleave

hushed pine
rigid obsidian
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ty!!!

teal fossil
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Since now you are spreading the big hit over however many ticks

remote ledge
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colo pumps omg

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feel late to the party

gritty tartan
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Hi all, I have a question for M+ is better colossus or slayer? and how sim for m+?

undone ibex
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Haven’t tried arms slayer in M+ yet so can’t really say. I am enjoying colossus arms atm and the numbers are there

teal fossil
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Colossus has god awful st

wheat lagoon
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Anyone know if Avatar/BS breaks this mechanic?

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Silken Court

fresh spire
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leap out of range of your ally

hushed pine
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Not worth using a dmg cd to avoid a mechanic imo

halcyon breach
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At worst, just use DStance/SR if you want to feel extra safe

frosty warren
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3 chested

livid cloak
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That prot pally dam

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Whew

frosty warren
#

nerf warrior btw

livid cloak
#

Very solid top to bottom

hushed pine
#

I assume that pally was playing lightsmith

frosty warren
hushed pine
#

atta boy

strange perch
#

@latent moss merry monday

#

Its beginning to shape up nicely

#

Its beginning to look alot like christmas

#

Everywhere you go !

long fable
#

So if I wanna do delves as a warrior can I do it as arms or is the self healing from fury the better option

astral talon
#

Its just a fun setup

#

Where you always have rage haha

bleak fog
#

Allso ran a +10 NW today (have like 5 keys as arms in me)

nova marsh
#

Play what u wabt

long fable
#

❤️

bleak fog
#

Just go with bran as healer and you will be fine :).

white condor
#

we better than fury yet

nova marsh
#

No

white condor
#

😦

hushed pine
#

We're way more gigachad tho

bleak fog
#

I have made more dps over all as arms then fury, aint saying that arms is better but it fits me better for now 😛

covert summit
#

Does arms got any adv over fury for m+ . Asking as s potential reroller

white condor
#

i have 2 warriors might just play both

hushed pine
#

Well, for one, Arms doesn't have to hit whirlwind in order to cleave

dire hinge
#

there's a good joke in there about how we have to pick between one or the other (cleave/whirlwind)

covert summit
#

I just wanna run into packs and do 10 mil aoe within 2-3 globals. Is that arms or fury

bleak fog
#

Thats not war 😄

dire hinge
#

yeah 100% frost dk

white condor
#

shaman

finite wasp
#

I think slayer arms is the worst spec in the game

covert summit
#

Ye im looking for warrior.

dire hinge
#

fury is front-loaded but got gutted really hard on its initial burst
arms can more priority damage focused

hushed pine
#

Colossus Arms (something something, Demolish crits)

dire hinge
#

both are incredibly fine in m+

#

literally play whichever one you find yourself enjoying more

finite wasp
#

slayer arms is a useless pos spec in m+

dire hinge
#

fury is a bit ealier to pick up and has more health thanks to the 2nd weapon
arms has strong priority target potential and also big demolish crits feels fun

shadow ibex
#

play what is fun

bleak fog
#

Fun

#

😛

dire hinge
#

welcome to being a pug dps, it's like that for almost every spec 👍

bleak fog
#

Yeah, a few have it better tho.. Got a enhshamy at 2.6 rio and 620 ilvl

#

no problem to get into keys that is higher then I have done

finite wasp
#

I actually dont have an issue getting into a 10

bleak fog
#

10 is no prob

finite wasp
#

im a collusus arms it doesnt take too long

#

but when i try to get into anything above +10

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i question why im pushing this season xd

earnest imp
#

Anyone got a good standalone weakaura for execute in single target?

latent moss
inner terrace
#

How is arms doing in raid and keys right now fellers

#

Haven't played it much since like season 3 df.

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I tried it in a SV last night and collosus felt really inconsistent, which could 100% be down to me playing it silly.

regal wharf
#

critcake i fucking hate wow man

#

why do keys deplete

wheat lagoon
inner terrace
wheat lagoon
#

Colossus is pretty much the same, just an extra button and ravager instead of BS.

inner terrace
#

It just felt funny because I'd do 6mil burst on a medium pack and then 3mil on a large pack

#

100% down to me, just wondering if I'm missing anything obvious lol

wheat lagoon
#

I know most players mess up the opener for colossus.

inner terrace
inner terrace
regal wharf
#

the worst part about playing arms this season is trying to get into keys

wheat lagoon
#

Pretty much build up to 10 stack, and ideally send with warbreaker and sweep.

inner terrace
#

Is the big damage from demolisher a frontal?

wheat lagoon
#

It's a very small splash damage

#

But could be frontal, I can look at tool tip

#

yeah, its splash damage up to 8 yards near a the target

inner terrace
#

I'm wondering if I'm literally just fucking up my positioning lol

#

So not frontal?

wheat lagoon
#

Not a frontal

regal wharf
wheat lagoon
#

Probably want to hit the most centered add in the pack

inner terrace
regal wharf
#

question

#

with what do we use our trinkets

inner terrace
#

Same thing for shard and hammer of khadros. 1.5m trinkets to pair with our 1.5m cooldown.

#

I just macro blood fury into CS

regal wharf
#

ugh theres this super fucking annoying bug with my ui

#

whenever I die it gets rid of the M+ timer

#

honestly

#

idk if its the healer

#

i was doing a 10 cot

#

I feel like fucking paper man

#

arms feels so fragile

#

857k overall

#

fucking pathetic 💢

#

genuine I might switch to fury because arms is just so fragile

slow saddle
#

It is

#

Vs fury

#

Or ret

#

Or dk

inner terrace
#

DK is a fucking tank doe that class is insane

slow saddle
#

So is ret

inner terrace
#

I feel tankier on arms than my shaman doe.

slow saddle
#

Even id they cey

regal wharf
slow saddle
regal wharf
#

and I fucking despise stance switching

inner terrace
slow saddle
#

Well dstance is powerfull

#

As duck

inner terrace
#

Dstance stronk

slow saddle
#

So thats on u😆

regal wharf
#

i just fucking hate using it

inner terrace
#

It's annoying but isn't that bad when u play around it a lot

slow saddle
#

Ignore pain is useless

inner terrace
#

Make it reflexive

#

Yeah it doesn't do anything anymore

#

Look how they massacred my rage dump

slow saddle
#

3 x stack good

#

Obly takes 30 sec

#

🤣

inner terrace
#

Arms needs a rework man

slow saddle
#

Warrior class trwe

inner terrace
#

I kind of hate it in ST.

regal wharf
#

yeah arms needs work

#

like

#

WORNG WORD

slow saddle
#

Slayer bad

regal wharf
#

HOLY FUCK

inner terrace
#

Whoah

#

Edit it

regal wharf
#

the l and k key are right next to each other my bad

inner terrace
#

EDIT FUNCTION

regal wharf
#

yeah arms needs help, it just feels so bad to drift cds and its so defensively weak

rancid solstice
#

Stupid embed fail

slow saddle
#

Tbh buff ms more

#

Remove juggernaut

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Nerf martial prowess

#

Buff baseline exe to same as 15 juggt stacks

latent moss
#

remove it

#

remove jugg too

slow saddle
#

Instead of juggn add talent that works like 4p in season 3

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The aoe on sd

#

I would love this arms style

inner terrace
#

Jug is awesome when the class is good

slow saddle
#

Ni

#

No

inner terrace
#

Like season 3 DF I miss it so much

slow saddle
#

Jugg is always bad

inner terrace
#

I loved M+ jug build

slow saddle
#

Jugg makes exe worse

nova marsh
#

Jugg just feels bad

#

Lost your stacks? Go fuck yourself

slow saddle
#

Exe would baseline do more dmg

#

To compensate

inner terrace
slow saddle
#

Point is less modifiers

inner terrace
#

:3

nova marsh
#

You just get told to go fuck yourself

slow saddle
#

But instead sd = fulø exe dmg pluss and aoe clap

#

Plz tell me that wouldnt feel better?

inner terrace
slow saddle
#

Keep in mind

#

Martial prowess

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Jugger

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Ms

#

Avatar

#

Cs

#

= a mess

shadow ibex
#

rend and tclap MUST BE TWO DIFFERENT BUTTONS

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THEY MUST

fresh spire
#

hell noi im pressing clap

shadow ibex
#

🤬

halcyon valve
#

Clap just replaces rend whenever i have it talented, cba adding another keybind for like 100k dmg

long fable
#

thats not a terrible idea tbh

#

assuming you're not gonna pop any cc or anything

#

I still wish arms got access to mountain thane for all the tclap interaction

ripe quartz
#

Makes sense that kyveza is parrying my colossus smash?

#

Sometimes I can't see the debuff on the boss

vapid goblet
#

Get the gromnak WA

shadow ibex
#

yea she can parry

#

gotta out play the pull in - blizz

ripe quartz
vapid goblet
ripe quartz
#

lol

#

I want to avoid it, not get mocked xDD

vapid goblet
ripe quartz
#

lmao, that's gold

hushed pine
#

I'm fine with pressing tclap

#

I'm not fine with pressing Rend

#

See, that's two different things

shadow ibex
#

he parried the ground slam

#

boss just too skilled

#

what if you got the heaven and god said

parried

hushed pine
#

It's 2024, and raid bosses still parry? critcake

vapid goblet
#

yep

#

why?

slim cypress
#

Hi all, I’m new to arms coming from prot but trying to determine cast frequency for assigning easier keybinds. How often is slam casted in m+ builds, across a key? Doesn’t seem to be much even during ST

vapid goblet
#

because fuck you

dawn dome
#

dumb question, how important is haste for colossus m+?

shadow ibex
astral talon
#

Mmm parry CS and parry Demolish

#

Lets not forget my best memory, DOUBLE parry of sudden death execute and I lost 8 stacks of jugg right before exe phase

fossil thistle
#

Just checked, should I only send demolish on Colossus Smash?

#

I’ve been sending on CD and holding CS for 3rd demolish, basically

#

Or vice versa, depends on procs

fossil thistle
#

In a miats 11 (21m and a bit) had 52 of slam so once every 25s

slim cypress
#

Roger Ty! I’ll give it a low prio keybind

latent maple
#

hi i wanted to ask can i play colossus in m+ it looks rlly fun and i saw at wowhead taht it is weaker then slayer

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and how is it with hero talents for arms thank you so much ❤️

tacit crystal
#

its playable

latent maple
#

dps wise ?

tacit crystal
#

its weaker than slayer in st

latent maple
#

and in aoe

tacit crystal
#

better

#

can go every 45

#

and not feel like shit

latent maple
#

and would u recomend slayer or colossus

#

then

#

like fun and dps wise

tacit crystal
#

both

#

because both are fun

#

just play what you want

latent maple
#

ok thank you so much

#

❤️

#

here will come dwarf warrior :3

finite wasp
#

Hey is there anything beneficial of earthquaker knocking mobs up in air with shockwave.

nova marsh
finite wasp
#

hmmm thnx

#

but even with all those stops were still a shit spec copium

slow token
#

am i doing execute correctly with colossus? wowhead guide seems to say exe spam or op unless x2 ep and x2 lethal blows 4pc otherwise dont use ms is that right

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basically dont use ms with just x2 ep

nova marsh
#

Yes

slow token
#

tyty

halcyon valve
#

Ms does much more dmg than execute as colossus, i just send it

#

Nearly same base dmg, 70%+ buff vs 45% max buff, same crit dmg multiplier, do the math

#

Mortal strike owns

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(All except one execute at fully stacked juggernaut)

fossil thistle
# latent maple ❤️

Slayer is fun and less 'set up' involved compared to Colossus. Slayer is entirely fine for 2-12 keys, Demolish I find has less value in lower keys because mob HP is so low, you don't really get to ramp the damage up.
My highest overall as Slayer I think was like 1.41M in a 10 (625)
And this week I hit 1.91M overall as Colossus (628)
Im sure others have done better though 😄

gaunt matrix
#

@astral talon your dropping rank ): what the hell you doing chief

teal fossil
#

Also remember that execute gets your cs back faster through am

finite wasp
#

That makes colussus op nerf it

wild kernel
#

Fax they should need fury because of this

teal fossil
#

I think knock up isn’t in stun dr

wild kernel
#

Arms class fantasy is catching strays from the more popular spec being changed

shadow ibex
#

knock up isnt stun DR and some mobs immune to stun get affected by it

#

since stun immunity is different from knock

silk spade
wary raft
#

chug jugg?

minor gust
#

Jugg Fucker

livid cloak
#

last boss ara kara 12

#

at least when the 2 other melee died there was so much room for activities

minor gust
#

usually how it goes on that boss in an all melee grp

livid cloak
#

they died to a pull in

#

dummies

minor gust
#

tsk tsk tsk

outer holly
#

hunter didn't have disengage hotkeyed, smh

brazen otter
#

waht do u prefer for m+ overall, fury or arms? in +10 and higher ? i thought fury is "best?" , but i see a lot of big arms queuing everywhere. i do main tank, so i just wanna know whats better as an offspec

minor gust
#

not everything is always about whats best. if your seeing a lot of arms queing up its because they enjoy arms. Fury is prob generally better rn but both are good

wild kernel
#

Depends on the dungeon

regal wharf
edgy solstice
#

arms in mdi is skewing it

#

fury way better equipped to deal with incoming damage in higher keys unforch

thick hamlet
tacit crystal
#

pvping

rain cipher
#

When do I need to send mortal strike in execute phase?

wild kernel
#

2 stacks EP 2 stacks tier set

boreal quartz
#

^^

#

Or if rend/dw will run out last global ish

#

Which never happens ngl

rain cipher
rain cipher
#

Thanks

tired storm
#

On mythic silken court as slayer arms do you just send cds on cd?

heavy heron
#

copy what the average is doing, not first parse

astral talon
vale gorge
boreal quartz
#

Cooked

thick kelp
#

Arms under fury?

silk spade
#

walhe is 10% less cool than wallife

thick kelp
#

I take that as a compliment

silk spade
gray herald
#

i am a fury one trick but i am enjoying colossus arms a lot in keys and silken court prog

#

might keep playing it

midnight mural
atomic mountain
#

do we know when patch 11.0.7 is coming up?

cloud gyro
#

guys is this spec good

thick kelp
#

slimmyjimmy

thorn tartan
#

first time arms

#

man this feels bad to play

empty sluice
thick kelp
#

Niiol

#

you play alot of slarms

#

do u prefer the aoe mongo or Jugg

empty sluice
#

Aoe mongo

#

I dont wanna bother with jugg stacks, it falls off fast

thick kelp
#

ic

empty sluice
#

My colossus sims 11% lower on st tho with m+ build

#

And bs is nice for some mechanics too

#

But I guess lot of ppl prefer colossus

empty sluice
latent moss
#

colossus with crit stacking is based

thick kelp
#

I think the colossus prefrence comes from it being more "consistent"

#

with demolish being up every pack

thorn tartan
#

Idk what to do with arms

#

I usually just tc roar cleave ss into demolish when I have enough stacks

#

Is that it?

#

I feel like I’m missing some singe target

#

Do we use slam?

empty sluice
#

It gets wild on big aoe

latent moss
#

i think thats why people hate it

#

(myself included)

empty sluice
#

I get it

#

I hate when tank move pack from my demolish

thick kelp
#

shockwave knockup into demolish

#

if your tank is big fan of asding

thick kelp
empty sluice
thick kelp
#

hate pugs

empty sluice
#

Thats the only option, Nobody wants brown class in premadekeks

thick kelp
slow saddle
#

what build do slayer player

#

in M+ ?

thick kelp
#

scroll up like 15messages

strange perch
thick kelp
halcyon valve
remote ledge
# empty sluice This

I also play this a lot, sometimes switching to blunt, sometimes even switching EP to BL, but I feel that colo just does more damage for the same build, but I haven't tested colo enough

atomic mountain
#

guys whats your wish for Vault 😄

#

i hope i dont get a ring tbh cause of the next content patch XD

hushed pine
#

Wild Hammer pls copium

slow saddle
#

and deffo u wont take dreadnaught eitheR+

thick kelp
#

you still proc it from the MFe

#

talent

slow saddle
#

unless i missed something ?

#

also again i didnt think we played WB but always CS

thick kelp
#

You can play what u want in the end

#

thats just what niiol prefers

empty sluice
#

Yup

#

Everything sucks compare to thane so Who cares

slow saddle
#

fact thane just claps

#

and slaps

#

and vlies

#

lives

livid cloak
slow saddle
#

id wish collosus had better st

#

i guess they need to rly buff

remote ledge
#

As long as they don't nerf us and buff other too much it's fine. Arms never been as good with so many builds since launch

boreal quartz
#

Never any choice in st

#

Always well since SL ish

scarlet field
#

trying to get better at colossus and im a fucking wet noodle in ST

#

m+ AoE feels baller, super fun

latent arrow
#

colossus fucks?

#

11 mil okayge

hushed pine
atomic mountain
ripe quartz
latent arrow
#

just the standard build. It was a SV+8 where tank gigapulled every pack so not super relevant but it was fun

atomic mountain
ripe quartz
#

Oh, for me standard is slayer. Or at least thats what I copied from archon. That's why I was asking. Its just same talents but colossus instead I guess

wanton sierra
latent arrow
hushed pine
#

Sometimes I forget Colossus uses Ravager and not BS lol

ivory harbor
#

Hi all, i am about to prog on Princess Ky'veza and hope to do it as Arms. Would anyone kindly share why some of the Arms top logs use "Culling Cyclone" instead of "Brutal Finish" under the Hero talents? Thank you

tacit crystal
#

sims higher or didnt change post nerf

#

or dont care

atomic mountain
#

Brutal Finish is normaly ST heavy and the fight is sagly not ST 😄

ivory harbor
#

thank you Pat

atomic mountain
thick kelp
#

whayt

tacit crystal
#

buenos dias walhe

#

:3

thick kelp
#

me no habla london

hushed pine
#

That's Spanish medge

tacit crystal
#

Hyvää huomenta walhe

thick kelp
#

Mina ei puhu Suomi kiel

atomic mountain
tacit crystal
#

god morgon walhe

thick kelp
#

jag kan inte talar på svenska

atomic mountain
ivory harbor
atomic mountain
dull siren
atomic mountain
#

then i dont know sorry XXD princess is for sure ST

dull siren
#

Jag pratar inte svenska

ivory harbor
#

I managed to get some help from Tmy

#

GL with your prog!

atomic mountain
thick kelp
thick kelp
#

Smutsig svensk killarna

dull siren
atomic mountain
#

Rör vid gräs

thick kelp
atomic mountain
thick kelp
atomic mountain
#

Jag kan inte svenska. Jag översätter bara allt och det ser ut som om jag kan svenska för övrigt.

thick kelp
#

Du är smutsig

atomic mountain
#

Jag tvättar mig också sällan

atomic mountain
tacit crystal
#

stop speaking your witch languages

marble steppe
#

is arms good now?

livid cloak
#

Who knows

#

Play it and find out

#

Define 'good'

marble steppe
#

i really want to play colossus but i have to refarm all my gear

livid cloak
#

Why

marble steppe
#

i have 0 crit pieces except some of some tier

livid cloak
#

That's fine, just play it

marble steppe
#

all haste mastery

livid cloak
#

What content do you want to do with it?

dim basalt
marble steppe
#

with a group, otherwise im not invited to 10s keks

dim basalt
#

I doubt 14s are enjoyable as arms

livid cloak
#

Probably better off staying fury

#

Long trash pulls as arms are fantastic

marble steppe
#

what i do like about fury thane is that youre unkillable unless you screw up badly with kicks or avoidable damage

#

ive heard arms does feel a bit squisher right?

livid cloak
#

Just stay fury thane then

dim basalt
#

"a bit"

livid cloak
#

Fury has a higher hp pool and 10 percent passive dam reduction

dim basalt
#

A gust of wind oneshots arms

livid cloak
#

Its tankier no doubt

atomic mountain
livid cloak
#

That's not true

#

But fury is tankier no doubt

dim basalt
#

Arms is definitely not far off from that title

livid cloak
#

If you don't use defensives, yes

hushed pine
#

Fury is tankier

#

But not by a lot

livid cloak
#

But arms has good defensives, just gotta use em

hushed pine
#

Storm Wall used to be so good sadge

opal flax
#

hey leveling up an arms warrior purely for casual m+ and generally just trying to have fun and bladestorm cleave. anyone have any recs for builds that are fun? doesnt need to be the BIS talent set up

#

heard a lot of people dont like current arms since its like spinning plates

elfin violet
remote ledge
#

I call bs on the 14

marble steppe
#

it was an exaggeration/hyperbole to what we have all experienced in lfg and what prompt me to make a group

#

but yeah you do you xd

fringe hornet
#

Is there a video on the internet teaching the correct rotation of the warrior arms Colossus? I have a question if, for example, against +3 or +5 mobs, after using Cleave I use 1v Overpower and then Mortal Strike while Cleave is in Cd or after using a Cleave I use Overpower twice and use Cleave again?

boreal quartz
#

Which isnt exactly possible every time

#

But casting the stuff a lot that cdrs your demo is your goal

rancid solstice
#

Keep rend up, cleave highest priority, try to keep one charge of overpower recharging, Ms and cleave both helpto reduce demolish cd so you can fit it in every warbreaker

#

And yeah you want to use your overpower stacks on cleave if you’re hitting multiple mobs obv

wanton sierra
inland crater
#

belt has a socket

boreal quartz
#

Belt likely

#

Cuz cata one is sick

#

Unless ur an m+er

wanton sierra
#

i could get ring, crit haste... but both my trinks are heroic version... shamorark and arakara

inland crater
#

recently just quit raiding so keys rn

cloud gyro
#

i would take trinket

#

both are good

#

you cant craft trinkets, but you can craft almost anything else

slim cypress
#

when crafting a 2h wep does it matter which one?

#

im guessing crit haste is the move?

weak rain
#

Spear, because it looks cool

rancid solstice
balmy cradle
#

do people go duskthread over ascendance?

boreal quartz
#

Can sim better with max ilvl wep

cloud gyro
thick kelp
#

I hate

#

queens

dull siren
finite mantle
thick kelp
silk spade
halcyon valve