we'll see slayer this week xD
#arms
astral talon
fierce heart
yea I assumed so, since haste is so strong for rage generation
I just really like test of might, was my favourite talent in MoP
I wish it weren't a choice between those 2
icy mulch
The only thing I liked about ToM was that it provided that "new" version of the CS window. Where you just dump rage for big gains.
Also, DF ToM was degen AF.
fierce heart
didn't play warrior in DF 🤷♂️
thick hamlet
bro survivability has been ass for arms this season so i was thinking
currently when i need it, i take endurance training over wild strikes
icy mulch
For awhile you would spam Ignore pain for massive rage dump. ToM to the moon for massive damage
thick hamlet
but would it be better to just go for ignore pain+bloodsurge
icy mulch
What key level are you talking where survivability is bad?
minor gust
Arms is a very tanky spec just press your buttons
icy mulch
If we're comparing Fury to Arms in say 12 and above, I would say Arms is the less tanky. Anything before that, meh, both are fine.
thick hamlet
ya the survivability difference is very noticeable especially 12 and up
minor gust
as said thousands of times yes fury is tankier but arms is also very strong on its own. If your struggling to live its a skill issue
warm plover
Hey guys, i have been away from the game for 10 days now almost, any changes to how arms was being played after the patch came out? is it still no bladestorm / colossuss for m+ ofc
cosmic shale
Statistically, arms is the most dead spec in raid
minor gust
lots of bad arms players what can I say
warm plover
Hey guys, i have been away from the game for 10 days now almost, any changes to...
I meant build wise
wheat lagoon
Statistically, arms is the most dead spec in raid
I think its a player issue. Average deaths:
minor gust
Hey guys, i have been away from the game for 10 days now almost, any changes to...
its the same as before patch for M+ play whats more fun to you both are good lots of people leaning towards colossus which has like 10 different builds all with slight variation depending on the person/key
gaunt owl
I think its a player issue. Average deaths:
and Arms isnt as tanky as ever other melee too
wheat lagoon
and Arms isnt as tanky as ever other melee too
Neither is Fury warrior. That's why they gave us Dstance
shadow ibex
arms is squishier than other specs lol
number dont lie
one of lowest survival rates on prog
gaunt owl
Fury is passively extra tanky
shadow ibex
why ppl play fury on princess
minor gust
arms just requires that extra work
wheat lagoon
you have to pay more attention on arms
just plain and simple, of course you can spec Fury if you just want to mindlessly play
shadow ibex
we can be all aksuhally u have IP SR and dstance then can go count fury and arms logs on punishing raid dmg fight
wheat lagoon
but that wont stop you from dying if you dont pay attention regardless
tacit crystal
we can be all aksuhally u have IP SR and dstance then can go count fury and arms...
ip XDDDDDDDDDD
wheat lagoon
dead talent honestly
tacit crystal
i tried to play it
shadow ibex
i mean go look at avg ilvl of early kills and if u think arms warr gonna have as good a time living at 626 as fury
just flat out wrong
period
wheat lagoon
who said it was a good time???
minor gust
idk I havent had much of a problem with living things so far this tier with raid dmg if ive died its because I fucked up
wheat lagoon
Just saying you can live
its not impossible
most of the times i died was purely miss managed defensive usage
tacit crystal
people were playing arms for damage not to live
plucky mortar
Sikrans Endless Arsenal any good?
cosmic shale
I mean I don’t think I’m ever in too much danger as arms, but the numbers are the numbers. I can also say that the way Queen prog is going, I would be clenching almost the entire time as Arms vs Fury rn
nova marsh
Statistically, arms is the most dead spec in raid
tbh I genuinely don't think high death specs are nessisarily indictive of poor survability
If players aren't using their damn defensives, that's not the specs fault
vital rune
My enhance doing almost 900k overall at 590 is nutty
Where do we get some of that damage?
tacit crystal
did boss die
boreal quartz
bro this will never happen again
look at ur jugg stacks for me rq
thick kelp
Look at them for mee too rq
tacit crystal
HOLY
solar quarry
it was a good pull
boreal quartz
stacks
dire hinge
it's under the Buffs tab if you click on the spell Juggernaut itself. They want the top chart that looks like this:
You can add this to the end of your URL and it should help
&type=auras&ability=383290
just be sure to filter the Source to only show yourself if you have a 2nd arms warrior in the group
dire hinge
hell yeah
lime glade
spiteful serenity any good?
dire hinge
not really no
solar quarry
just be sure to filter the Source to only show yourself if you have a 2nd arms w...
who would do that? 
Which self respecting guild has 2 arms* warrs
lime glade
just seemed like a cool combo with blademasters torment
halcyon valve
spiteful serenity any good?
it sims good in dungeon slice, but feels super weird to play
burnt lake
it sims good in dungeon slice, but feels super weird to play
people use dungeon slice?!
livid cloak
Anger management leads to similar uptime as SS but without the loss in effectiveness iirc
lime glade
what are we supposed to sim with? patchwerk?
boreal quartz
ye
lime glade
for m+?
boreal quartz
yea just change the amount of pws
burnt lake
people usually do 5 target 5 mins, ive heard
halcyon valve
i like dungeon slice because, well, its a dungeon slice. some aoe burn, some singletarget on a boss.
pure 5 target patchwerk sims always favor full aoe builds and do not have any downtime that might be interesting
tacit crystal
Which self respecting guild has 2 arms* warrs
pc liquid echo
high field
bro this will never happen again
why does it show as 100%
solar quarry
why does it show as 100%
idk ask WCL
I just realised I ran double on use from brood too, didnt have my 639 Sac on
had skardyns which i didnt use once xd
maiden moat
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2PJRdFpDVyX7LgQT#type=damage-done&cutoff=0&fight=14
anyone now how i can improve, ofc my log is not that bad, but can be better 😄
wild gull
Hows arms looking compared to Fury now in M+?
fresh spire
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2PJRdFpDVyX7LgQT#type=damage-done&cutoff=0&...
try logs channel might get help there
high field
does your guild have enh shaman
solar quarry
sometimes
vital narwhal
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2PJRdFpDVyX7LgQT#type=damage-done&cutoff=0&...
I checked with my log (bananaboos) and the only thing that stands out to me is the execute damage. My juggernaut uptime and stacks are a lot higher. I usually wait untill 3 stacks of marked for death or 2 stacks of sudden death to press execute or to extend juggernaut. Looking at your log you seem to press it regardless of these conditions but i could be wrong. I think you played really well tho, cant see any other mistakes. Maybe someone else can see other mistakes that I overlooked
tacit crystal
hello habibi
maiden moat
I checked with my log (bananaboos) and the only thing that stands out to me is t...
thanks 🙂
lyric egret
it's over arms bros
sacred zodiac
it's over arms bros
arms is dead after that ptr hotfix
strange perch
arms is dead after that ptr hotfix
Nobody can stop ARMs
sacred zodiac
Nobody can stop ARMs
its not me that called it it was falk
regal socket
can you not skip to 2nd half of dawn of infinite?
its so long
trying to get gorehowl
fresh spire
Can't wait people to see the ptr ms change and panic (it was the revert from the 30% buff just documented)
regal socket
Can't wait people to see the ptr ms change and panic (it was the revert from the...
LOL
so arms cooked again?
swift crown
arms is dead after that ptr hotfix
Is this my favourite Warrior streamer Spongie? Big fan!!!!
fresh spire
Arms is same
regal socket
Arms is same
as pre buffs?
silk spade
charred olive
do ya'll like to use a basic WA kit or something special for warrior?
devout pewter
do ya'll like to use a basic WA kit or something special for warrior?
been using Atrocity's kit for a while now. Pretty neat and very quality considering I don't want to spend a couple hours working on a nice UI anymore. Only bad part is you kinda have to pay for it, but since you can use a twitch sub and I don't have anyone I'd give my prime sub to... it's basically free anyways
charred olive
👍
regal socket
is there an opener for demolish build?
is it the same just replace bs?
does SS affect cleave and OP?
tacit crystal
i think you rav before ava cs but yeah
this is scattered because anda was doing mdi
but same idea
halcyon breach
Where does Anda find the time for MDI with all the SoD gaming he's doing
tacit crystal
tacit crystal
its in the picture?
regal socket
i see bs but not emolsh?
regal socket
oh crap sorry
ivory vector
has arms changed a massive amout from shadowlands?
nova marsh
yeah a lot actually
ivory vector
well crap
charred olive
new-ish to warrior. Question: unless i'm the target of the spell, or I have aggro for example, can I spell reflect shit? Is this something I do a lot in m+?
coral remnant
@charred olive reflect gives you a static 20% dmg reduction to all magic dmg for 5 seconds, so yeah press it
gilded kraken
thats not what he asked though
you cant reflect something cast on others unless its something chain lightning esque
not sure if current dung pool has anything of the sort
the 20% magic dr is good yes so just use whenever anything magic hurts
magic canopy
iron spruce
can anyone eexplain why no warbreaker on broodtwister does this spell just suck ass
devout pewter
longer cs more bam bam
spring pilot
Is anyone else around 616 ilevel finding it difficult to get into +8s?
marsh needle
Is anyone else around 616 ilevel finding it difficult to get into +8s?
run your own key tbh, most 8s fill with people 625+ farming crests
spring pilot
Frick
marsh needle
i have been pugging a ton of keys this week and any time i list 8s on my alt it’s insta filled with 625+ signups
spring pilot
That makes it difficult when the keys I have been getting aren't for dungeons that have gear I need.
quaint otter
it doesnt matter what to run for u atm u need crests anyway so u will get the gear eventually
balmy kindle
Is anyone else around 616 ilevel finding it difficult to get into +8s?
Try to get to 619 and play as prot
Got through the wall basically spamming prot for crests, then asking guildies to craft 636 gear
619 fury / arms = ew
619 prot = wow we need this guy
spring pilot
I could do that and have definitely noticed that I can switch to Prot and I'm instantly invited to almost whatever I want
It's unfortunate because I'd prefer to DPS but I don't get to do that
strange perch
Try to get to 619 and play as prot
How do you get that high in ilvl without 8s
teal fossil
It's unfortunate because I'd prefer to DPS but I don't get to do that
because most people prefer to dps
not just you
dire hinge
spent most of the start of the season as Prot just to get into keys, not a bad thing, especially if you dont have a consistent group to run with
it's a good skill to have in your pocket, and Prot Warrior is feasting this season anyways
strange perch
Are the faq talents still up to date
teal fossil
yes
dire hinge
they're from a few months ago, but nothing has changed so significantly that they're out of date
there's a few personal preference flex points and dungeon-specific swaps you can do
balmy kindle
How do you get that high in ilvl without 8s
Spam 6-7s
strange perch
It seemed like all the top m+ people I looked at were all running colossus and what not
balmy kindle
Like legit just grind normal heroic raid and 6-7s for hero track pieces and keep upgrading
balmy kindle
Yes also u can upgrade hero track gear to 619 with the crests from 4-7s
quasi torrent
<@173741974493462528> didn't know you were competing
someone stole my team name
plus i wouldnt go out last in a cup
tacit crystal
thats fucked
astral yarrow
its not like 1 stat will keep being your best stat to infinity
thick kelp
I wonder why dual duskthread sims better than dawnthread
Because alot of your crit comes from gear whilst you have minimal amount of versa equipped which pushes the sim to prefer duskthread
midnight mural
Thinking about if i should try out colossus for silken court.. We are currently progging it and hitting intermission 2. We're lusting around 3:30 during the first dispells. In my head slayer makes more sense because it has better execute than colossus (right?) and we are most likely going to have a very long execute phase because of the 3:30 lust.
old jasper
Do people ever macro slam/cleave together to save keybinds?
thick kelp
no?
old jasper
Yeah i remember seeing something about a macro that uses cleave if learned & slam if not. Wondered if it was a legit thing people did
hushed pine
Never heard of such a thing
daring heron
people do a lot of things
thick kelp
bad bad macro
Maybe it was the slam / improved ww / tclap macro for fury warriors who are lazy
daring heron
i like the slam ww clappa macro
crisp crane
Do people ever macro slam/cleave together to save keybinds?
yeah you can do it with talent condition - to use your favorite keybind more.
but i would have slam on a 2nd keybind for pure ST cases .
so technically you dont save a keybind .. but your prefered keybind is used "more"
(but if you use the actionbar feature that swaps bars for every talent loadout it isnt really needed. except you skilling in and out of cleave alot)
old jasper
yeah you can do it with talent condition - to use your favorite keybind more.
bu...
thankyou
strange perch
Do people ever macro slam/cleave together to save keybinds?
you can use this "/cast [known:Cleave] Cleave; Slam" but 2 buttons is really superior
halcyon breach
someone stole my team name
plus i wouldnt go out last in a cup
team name
one day they'll return (they wont)
((maybe wont))
old jasper
you can use this "/cast [known:Cleave] Cleave; Slam" but 2 buttons is really sup...
Thankyou, ill keep the macro incase i need it but i'll run with 2 buttons as you & others suggest.
quasi torrent
((maybe wont))
0%
swift crown
Add a 0 in front of that
halcyon breach
own what
thick kelp
own DN
median scroll
hooly
quasi torrent
@halcyon breach online
NOW
quasi torrent
which one
tacit crystal
chomp
tacit crystal
that one
quasi torrent
i am not a partaker in chomping
halcyon breach
<@102464908976730112> online
NOW
Am going to the store soon with me mum (after)
halcyon breach
shut up
quasi torrent
rude
halcyon breach
no we will use the ancient means of transport forgotten to mankind (walking)
quasi torrent
just u buddy
silent flame
For dungeons, cleave and the mini bladestorm thing being my 2 top dps things is correct right
hushed pine
Ah we love spinning
silent flame
Yeye
rn im like 608 ilevel on the alt and those two are high id say
most ive done so far i think was 1.1mil overall
But im still learning how to play the rota the best
also prolly should install some WAs X)
tacit crystal
granted im playing a different build than what you would end up playing
silent flame
Ah
i can fetch my damage breakdown rq
i think im just running the build for slayer on wowhead
tacit crystal
I was playing jugg
silent flame
ah
makes sesne
Tbh my arms is 100% just for m+ so idk how much ill end up using jugger
tacit crystal
maybe my understanding of how to play jugg is wrong
but i intentionally drop overall (not casting cleave) to keep a pack up for longer to keep my stacks up so its a bit inflated on the execute nyumber
echo bridge
How long should I hold Colossus Smash or Bladestorm if the others on CD? Like should I only hold if its less than 5 seconds or should I be holding if its like 20?
astral yarrow
hold onto BS at max like 10 seconds for CS or other cooldowns
wild kernel
Dudes I started running a jugg slarms build in M+ with increased SS duration because of the xalatath affix
Pretty fun get some very long 15jugg windows
Idk about overall viability but very execute spam heavy and satisfying
boreal quartz
Dudes I started running a jugg slarms build in M+ with increased SS duration bec...
Not picking collat is a massive aoe loss unfortunately
tacit crystal
^
wanton sierra
hi guys! do you have an good m+ pack season aura?
icy mulch
Especially when you could just take blade masters torment for more SS.
strange perch
wanton sierra
ty bro!
regal wharf
i tried doing an 11 stonevault at 620 and jesus christ
arms really does feel like paper
cyan flower
does anyone have any opinion on ascension and writhing armor banding embelishment combo in m+ versus dual duskthread lining. it sims about the same for me but I heard the proc for ascension is unreliable? anyone use it?
halcyon breach
It's good if you can maintain it, but it's easy to drop the stacks. The ideal combo if you're just gonna do M+ primarily is 2x Lining, as it's fully consistent and easy to maintain high uptime of
cyan flower
ty
vital rune
Tried colossus out on a heroic Ovi last night. Huge demo coming up on a double parasite pack. DK grips my target and cast is cancelled
I cry
hollow plinth
Hey everyone! I’m new here, and I’ve got a question about Bladestorm. I’ve noticed that when I use it, it sometimes pulls enemies that im not hiting. Is this normal, or am I doing something wrong? Thanks!
playing slayer hero talents
boreal quartz
In what way pull
hollow plinth
wait, i have a clip, let me cut it
boreal quartz
Best way to check it ye
hollow plinth
prob any other pull it and i take agro
sacred zodiac
what is the debuff you apply to it
icy mulch
prob any other pull it and i take agro
What are you trying to point out here?
hollow plinth
what is the debuff you apply to it
https://www.wowhead.com/item=218307/wildfire-wick this trinket
sacred zodiac
run a key without it and see if thats the culprit
ive personally not heard of any ninjapulling shenanigans this season from any trinket or warrior ability
icy mulch
I'm not familiar with your plater profile, so I can't tell if you pull agro.
tacit crystal
is he a jundies enjoyer
sacred zodiac
considering the first ability the enemies use is targeted on him its safe to say that he pulled
tacit crystal
do you have a log of the key?
kindred breach
is colossus worse in ST in M+ compared to slayer or are my sims just iffy
hollow plinth
for sure is the trinket that is pulling, two player in party have this and in all run we ninja pull something
icy mulch
Gotta love the star fall syndrome.
sacred zodiac
idk i played that trinket at the start of season on fury and never ninjapulled
icy mulch
Remotely in range? Hit it.
sacred zodiac
might not be it
cant exactly tell without someone digging through logs or you running a key without the trinket
icy mulch
If the tank was running it as well, I can see it proc pulling them.
He was close enough for it to jump.
astral talon
was there any info about how strong new ring from siren isle is?
halcyon valve
Besides blizzard stated goal of making it really strong in current content, i havent seen anything no
astral talon
fair enough
icy mulch
It's gonna end up being another Onyx Annulet. Which will turn into a failure.
shadow ibex
its just a fancy way to nerf the content
tbh i'd rather just more pronounced raid buff than these idiots trying to balance numerous effects
slow saddle
Problem is shit like that is never broken for arms
astral talon
we'll see 😄
astral talon
i believe the second we get datamining of what proc does what Archi will drop a huge "GUYS WE DID SIMS, WE GAINED 0.1% DPS IF WE PROC WELL"
jade basalt
real
unborn canyon
radiant ravine
just saw an arms war pumping 1.7M in a +10, is arms better than fury in M+?
cyan oriole
no. they do about the same overall. furys more tanky though.
radiant ravine
got it thx
thorn pelican
i think arms only does more dps if u pull stupidly big
and its marginal, the DR from fury kinda just better if ur pushing up higher
cyan oriole
it's the DR + all the extra stam from a second two hander. which is quite a bit more tankiness. its not like arms is squishy though its still one of the tankiness specs in the game, its just that fury is more so
naive sage
They could just give Arms a passive like "stamina increased by x% while wielding a 2h"
fresh spire
Just remove fury extra ho
regal wharf
arms needs like
35% more defensiveness
fury needs 32% or smth
cause like
it's bad
i feel like I have to use rallying cry on every instance of groupwide damage
uneven yacht
fury is tanky...
reef glade
hit dstance once and you’re the most unkillable dps in the game not using a cd 
uneven yacht
its not fdk
reef glade
regal wharf
stonevault was definitely not the dungeon I expected to be the hardest of the pool
reef glade
healer or cc issue probably, I mean they hurt a lot sure but it’s not like fury should be super at risk of dying
regal wharf
at least of the TWW dungeons
reef glade
if you use defensives and stuff decently
regal wharf
I was expecting like... COT to be that
reef glade
but gigantic 20 mob pulls and like shit ton of casts go off or you get a ton of the big aoe bots sure
regal wharf
but nah COT can be kinda chill
ara kara can be pretty sketchy
esp if you get a bad healer
and the first boss can be really bad
dawnbreaker is easy which is nice
and stonevault 
they need to slap that shit with so many nerfs
its abd
bad
naive sage
hit dstance once and you’re the most unkillable dps in the game not using a cd <...
Dstance is strong af but arms has objectively lower hp than fury, which has dstance too
reef glade
Yea I was more talkin about him saying fury needs defensive buffs which is like… cwazy
jade basalt
just giga buff colussus and let me play the cooler warrior
steep osprey
fury is squishy(compared to fdk)
Literally everyone is squishy compared to DK
more likely is DK needs nerfs
And some shit tier specs need buffs
Like shamans with their terrible defensives
uneven yacht
and yet they're fine in 17 keys even without prot paladin babysitting now
so maybe their squishyness is greatly exaggerated and not like how it was before
regal wharf
Yea I was more talkin about him saying fury needs defensive buffs which is like…...
i mean compared to the other plate specs the warriors are the most fragile
which is weird
astral talon
nothing below 15s is class issue when it comes to living and dying
i remember someone sending calculator
that checks if you get oneshot or not
lets check big oneshot abilities, like retch in necrotic
1st boss
regal wharf
i always pop my DBTS or spell reflect on that one
idk if its magic but yknow
always pop dbts when im gonna be chunked
like the water aoe in boralus on hadal
bronze wharf
lmao
astral talon
12 we live with just that
and in higher keys healers, and tanks often use something to help us live
this is kinda funny cuz in 12s i was FAR from death with just dstance and reflect
hmm
bronze wharf
just pray 🙏
bronze wharf
you can also use demolish for dr
gaunt owl
make IP great again
astral talon
if we play colossus its another 2.5% iirc
and we can demolish before too for dmg reduction like you said
bronze wharf
arms is actually soo tanky you only need to have in your party druid, priest, paladin and augmentation
i'm just throwing jokes
i think arms is ok
astral talon
and whenever there is a dmg over time mechanic we can just IV it
bronze wharf
but well, not for 15
gaunt owl
only a select few class or spec can push harder
astral talon
no dbts, nothing kills us in 15s except for retch
gaunt owl
if IP was strong as fuck it would be a good tool
but its just disappointing for Arms sadly
bronze wharf
can you send the link to the website?
gaunt owl
astral talon
no clue what dk has, but without active abilities they flop to plenty of stuff according to website
bronze wharf
thx
astral talon
but then again its my warr stats on dk, could be VERY wrong
astral talon
dh dies to plenty
astral talon
its one macro
astral talon
so ye, at some point EVERY spec flops without using walls
gaunt owl
bronze wharf
well, without dbs/healer cds that one is rip too
oh, i forgot to change stamina value
could be survivable then
bronze wharf
y
regal wharf
iirc
bronze wharf
even if you IV
regal wharf
is that with or without the adds dead
astral talon
we assume no healer
bronze wharf
would pop cd for that on +16
astral talon
website assumes you dont get heals
uneven yacht
i hope ppl are also grabbing the shield if they need an extra cd for retch
astral talon
^
regal wharf
isnt that for the tank tho
regal wharf
WoW meta
regal wharf
damn are people really not playing dev evoker?
regal wharf
it was pretty chill of what I played 
astral talon
tho i personally don't like playing with augs
regal wharf
aug is pretty cringe
like
having a spec with a support function really limits the comp opportunity with the other specs
esp since it has a lust
astral talon
apparently aug has some skill ceiling now
according to my guildie
there has to be some truth to it cuz most augs i meet in lfg are dogshit xD
regal wharf
honestly
livid cloak
man blademasters torment goes hard in NW, thanks tmy ❤️
regal wharf
every class except arms and retri i play with hekili cause I'm pretty like... afraid of dragging everyone down
bronze wharf
man blademasters torment goes hard in NW, thanks tmy ❤️
monk buff abuser 
bronze wharf
lacks only druid for that sweet 3% vers
regal wharf
monk buff abuser <:pipes:584999586809118733>
that makes me think, we need a pipe 2 hand
like
sword club or axe doesnt matter
it should be a metal pipe
astral talon
what does he remove for it?
regal wharf
blood DK
vocal gust
Wrong
uneven yacht
not even close to wrong lmao
regal wharf
yeah I have been working on weaning myself off it
uneven yacht
hekili is like reading a noxxic guid
vocal gust
Wrong
regal wharf
noxxic?
uneven yacht
guide
regal wharf
but yeah I I wanna learn Sin Rogue without hekili cause I really do enjoy it
tepid star
man blademasters torment goes hard in NW, thanks tmy ❤️
Hello ! Nw in what level ? And can you show the build you run plz ?
wicked aurora
according to my guildie
Essentially if you're not 90 parsing on it it's not worth playing over Dev
if you're 75 parsing you're literally doing tank damage
In keys you are super held back by your group though, if you don't have people that you know are blasters it's just never worth playing
livid cloak
Hello ! Nw in what level ? And can you show the build you run plz ?
was an 11, ran the aoe build
dusky forge
Anyone got a ST Colossus raid build?
Havent played in a bit, wanna see if my page is still good
fast wharf
it should be exactly like the slayer ST build afaik, but it deals less dmg
shadow ibex
you just swap ravager with bladestorm
fast wharf
oh yeah i missed that detail
livid cloak
these tmy builds are actually so good.
went from like a 1.4 pb in dawnbreaker to 1.7 with new build + buffs
hunter had pi, couldn't catch him 😦
i wouldn't have given BM torment a thought, but it's pretty nice in certain dungeoens
massive collateral damage swings
shadow ibex
just wish it had some sort of ST value
livid cloak
yeah idk how much you lose exactly dropping uproar
haven't simmed it, idk that you would take it on a 4 boss zone (outside of stonevault)
well, necrotic wake too
but you get some value in boss 2/3 from it
brisk frost
Anyone has Colossus multi-target opener?
crude bone
Hey guys, do you have any recommended sim options for M+?
uneven yacht
these tmy builds are actually so good.
isn't the main difference just blademasters vs shorter roar
between that and the other builds ppl play
crude bone
I like to lose 1 point in bloodborne for 35% execute, helps prio and boss damage
uneven yacht
i still don't see major value in EP when stuff dies quick and there's barely execute windows on bosses
crude bone
In higher keys, there is dewfinitely alot of execxute on bosses
teal fossil
I like to lose 1 point in bloodborne for 35% execute, helps prio and boss damage
Do not underestimate bloodborn on st
It’s quite solid
tough tangle
hunter had pi, couldn't catch him 😦
survival is also busted right now
old urchin
Anyone has Colossus multi-target opener?
I usually charge -> tclap-> roar -> warbreaker/avatar -> sweeping strikes -> ravager - > cleave -> MS and then follow the aoe prio. You want as many cleaves as you can during ravager if you’re running bonegrinder and MS when SS is up gets you to 10 stacks of colossal might really fast.
forest dove
If not running WB, you could cleave there for DW right?
brisk frost
I usually charge -> tclap-> roar -> warbreaker/avatar -> sweeping strikes -> rav...
Interesting to leave demolish until 10 stacks, is there a way to sim best 5 targer opener?
old urchin
If not running WB, you could cleave there for DW right?
Yeah cleave asap as soon as cd’s are rolling to get deep wounds up
burnt lake
hunter had pi, couldn't catch him 😦
survival is just giga slept on. its insane
forest dove
Yeah cleave asap as soon as cd’s are rolling to get deep wounds up
Oh so smash first?
old urchin
I do. But hell I could be wrong
forest dove
Yeah, I mean, I’m not pushing high keys, so my think has been, dots up, CDs
So I actually charge, tc, cleave, ravager, roar * avatar, smash, sweep, dem
But again, no idea if that’s right
Shit probably want avatar up before ravager though
Does it snapshot when I place ravager? Or will that do more dam when I pop avatar after?
old urchin
Snapshoting isn’t a thing anymore for Warrior anyway.
forest dove
Okay cool, so I’m missing a tick or two of ravager being buffed by avatar, but that’s it
Still could optimize
Thanks!!
white anvil
Hey I quit for a while but I am back
out of curiosity, is hand of justice 619 any good? im about to run the sim in a bit
just wondering if any blackrock loot massively outperforms equivalent ilvl loot for arms
shadow ibex
Trinket iirc
fluid rune
whats a tmy build?
spare ice
The Wowhead guide has Brutal Finish and Fierce Followthrough as hero talents in the Slayer single and M+ builds, but Icy Veins and the builds in this Discord's dps-faq use Culling Cyclone and Opportunist. Which is correct? Or, which resource is the most up to date?
dim basalt
The Wowhead guide has Brutal Finish and Fierce Followthrough as hero talents in ...
It varies based on stats
So just sim stuff
spare ice
Did a search and see posts saying Brutal Finish doesn't work- is that still correct?
dim basalt
It does work
livid cloak
So I actually charge, tc, cleave, ravager, roar * avatar, smash, sweep, dem
Are you running merciless bonegrinder?
If running mbg, I'd do charge. Clap, roar, sweep, ava/wb, rav, cleave ms
You can cleave right after charge but it could grab aggro
If you're running mbg you don't want to waste like 4 gcds of ravager before you start cleaving
chrome lichen
we are progressing kyveza mythic,
during the dagger thing - is there a "best place" to stand on?
or just open eyes and run around it?
shadow ibex
If running mbg, I'd do charge. Clap, roar, sweep, ava/wb, rav, cleave ms
you lose time on MBG buff if you rava inside WB
since duration is ravager duration and ravager gets hasted
astral talon
you rava inside wb cuz you wont get HUGE cleave with collateral
EZ
ravager eats all the fucking buffs to cleave
cuz it casts mortals
shadow ibex
with ravager im mashing cleave and MS anyway for fast demo 10 stack
and even outside of that on long pulls with good EB procs u can get 2 demos off in like 23 seconds
idk idrc about OP buff and 4pc proc is low rng anyway with 20 cost cleaves
vale gorge
Ravager with Sweeping still give more than 1 stack of Colossus haha
zenith warren
kyveza is fun but when you get a mechanic as melee and then have to wait for orbs to wear off you lose so much uptime
uneven yacht
Sometimes it be like that
reef glade
just go back in after drop for a few seconds
Surely won’t get omega cucked by daggers
also feel like kinda have to to sling a little impending victory n shit
runic tundra
is khadros at 639 just not that bad?
cause it sims 1% better than hero transmitter
at least for me
eager sigil
big ilevel diffy there
and its not bad
i got skarmorak shard myth and its pretty good
runic tundra
big ilevel diffy there
i meant to say worse
but yeah fair
guess i don't need transmitter till it's myth track then thnx
maiden moat
anyone know how to get the staff on new charakter from the quarter Master in Ringing deeps?
the quartermaster didtn have the quest and stuff for the renown in Ringing Deeps
slim cypress
Hi all, completely new to warrior this season and got to about 2700 playing prot and have always wanted to try arms. How is the skill floor/ceiling for colossus in m+? Thanks friends
west forum
When I play colossus and EP I find I am rage starved to get two stacks of EP and spend on MS even when running OP dry. Do I need to save Ravager for execute? In M+. Is it gear level? Don’t feel like I get full value out of EP.
The best players are running it. So they are right and I am doing it wrong. Wonder what I need to be focusing on to get that boss damage up and make it work.
shadow ibex
ravager helps with the exe rage because the MS will eat EP for you but not really a hold it. 45 and 90 sec cd on WB/ravager means every other WB should see a ravager cast so might help u make decisions if u think of it like that
charge weaving helps
and might have shaman in grp
drifting widget
dire hinge
for song overlaps, im partial to Modern Man's song Arms
https://open.spotify.com/track/4LOyMuGVOwWOM4bKieLVbk?si=b1fe5e94277a48ce
eager sigil
cheers for the ad
fresh sierra
Has anyone tried colossus on M Broodtwister?
minor gust
If your progging broodtwister highly recommend Slayer so you can dispell the webs off yourself
minor gust
Slayer does good AOE. What's bigger is being able to dispell yourself
shadow ibex
if you just wanna do adds may as well go fury
slayer arms would probably be able to do better boss dam but not nearly as much aoe as fury
colossus would just be aoe bot and probably a lot more awkward to use than just laughing while mashing as am fury with your bleeds and cleaver
hard to find a better fury fight than brood. x2 on use so every set has a trinket and u have cds for every single set
sick gazelle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWxZrSlGtzw
inner ridge
Slayer does good AOE. What's bigger is being able to dispell yourself
why would you use bs for dispel?? just leap out and charge back in
livid cloak
Slayer has the charge dispel talent
Colossus doesnt
I assume that's what they are referring to
inner ridge
oh okay, did not know that
minor gust
why would you use bs for dispel?? just leap out and charge back in
Yee as Sean said use the Slayer talent that lets charge break the web effect
inner ridge
forgot about that talent
golden magnet
What do you guys think is better in 8-10 pug keys for damage. Slayer or colossus?
livid cloak
But is it worth being 5 percent smaller
minor gust
Basically you get the web you leap to an empty area and charge back
livid cloak
What do you guys think is better in 8-10 pug keys for damage. Slayer or colossus...
They're both fine
Just play what you like
livid cloak
The best players are running it. So they are right and I am doing it wrong. Wond...
Ep and massacre are good st talents, but you will feel rage starved
Without critical thinking and sudden death to supplement your execute phase, it feels shit to play
It still does decent damage though
shadow ibex
cleave crit 
livid cloak
proud heath
Should i use Alchemical chaos or the crit flask on mythic princess?
soft coyote
progging kyv and trying to get the timing down for spell reflecting that last regicide that comes out, anyone have some tips as to when i should press it? like do i do it right before it applies or a second before for consistency
minor gust
not much to time you get a line you wait a second and press spell reflect
soft coyote
right on, just over thinking it then for prog
plush jacinth
Is there a max amount of haste I should be running?
bold sequoia
How much better is fury for m+?
final jungle
Should i use Alchemical chaos or the crit flask on mythic princess?
I misa ventrilo
balmy dew
not much to time you get a line you wait a second and press spell reflect
Does spell reflecting it deal damage, or just negate the damage?
outer holly
balmy dew
Thanks
chrome lichen
evety time i want to sign for a pug key, i need to click the "Sign up", then mark in another click that io play dps,
is there a way to do it in a single click and avoid this annoying thing?
manic stirrup
an addon i used to have did it
i dont have it anymore tho
so it is possible
i just dont know what it was
chrome lichen
i will search this tyvm
maiden obsidian
Premade groups filter can do this, just need to check it in the addon settings
astral yarrow
theres a WA for it, but im not at my own pc to share it
lucid lotus
Stats fot colossus and slayer are the same?
lucid lotus
But essentially crit haste for both?
atomic mountain
is this fine for a 10 SV? i kinda fucked up 3 pulls
austere willow
is this fine for a 10 SV? i kinda fucked up 3 pulls
can always just check your logs. Better than average
atomic mountain
can always just check your logs. Better than average
but logs go from sec 1 to last sec and details take only infight time
austere willow
but logs go from sec 1 to last sec and details take only infight time
What difference does it make?
atomic mountain
What difference does it make?
the downtime you dont fight?
austere willow
Yes but how does that impact your overall performance. Performance is measured for the entire key. Or are you asking whether you did okay in a specific pull?
astral yarrow
as long as you arent comparing your logs to details an vice versa
austere willow
Yep.
I personally always look at logs for the entire dungeon and details for a specific pull. Details is just a short-term ego boost personally. Since you can't really extrapolate too much out of it on the fly.
serene hollow
the parse number is the truth, I will hear no argument otherwise
hushed pine
i need pvp talent for arms?
karmic forum
Hi everyone. I’m new to wow. Is arms a good spec to start with?
eager sigil
Hi everyone. I’m new to wow. Is arms a good spec to start with?
yea
hushed pine
Quick refresh, lads: recommended embellishments for pve?
astral yarrow
Quick refresh, lads: recommended embellishments for pve?
Ascension for raid, Dusk/Dawnthread for m+
hushed pine
Thanks 
thick kelp
what sims better
for most people it will be dusk
and dusk sims the best in full bis
manic river
👍
bleak fog
Uproar over Blademasters in M+, pros and cons?
thick kelp
More ST, better for smaller and more frequent pulls. Less mass aoe if your tank does bigger pulls according to your cds
bleak fog
Does the sweeping from BM stack with sweeping or do we hold it (cant test atm :)).
halcyon valve
if you press sweeping before avatar, the duration gets added
if you press avatar before sweeping, sweeping overrides it
wooden fiber
Hi guys, does a WA for EB proc exist ? i would like to put a sound when it reset the CD of cleave and MS thx
lavish jewel
Hi guys, should I remove rend from my bars? I do not see arm warriors cast it on logs.
arctic axle
ye just use thunderclap
boreal quartz
Hi guys, should I remove rend from my bars? I do not see arm warriors cast it on...
All good st logs cast it??
rustic hound
Hey guys, new warrior here. Tried the mage tower last night and can’t get the 2nd phase past 40% with drums and consumables. Does anyone have any advice?
hushed pine
Tclap is for aoe builds
paper gulch
Hey guys, new warrior here. Tried the mage tower last night and can’t get the 2n...
Yeah. Play single target raid build because you will get an opportunity to switch specs once xylem breaks free.
Slayer is probably be better
naive sage
Hi guys, should I remove rend from my bars? I do not see arm warriors cast it on...
It is good in single target, it does decent damage and due to the changes to rage economy with TWW you won't get a guaranteed tactician proc anymore with TC
paper gulch
Hi guys, should I remove rend from my bars? I do not see arm warriors cast it on...
Thunderclap does more damage and has a similar rage cost.
rustic hound
Slayer is probably be better
Thanks for the reply! I’ll play around with talents but I’ve just looked on the timewalking discord and apparently the mage towers scaling is whack right now 😦
paper gulch
Thanks for the reply! I’ll play around with talents but I’ve just looked on the ...
When facing xylem there will come a point where he will break free from the corruption and throw a tome on the floor. Moments after that you will be able to eat and change your gear and talents. Sweeping strikes and bladestorm should do more than enough for when you have to kill the adds
rustic hound
When facing xylem there will come a point where he will break free from the corr...
The adds aren’t so much an issue as they line up with bladestorm. It’s the single target damage I’m lacking on the 2nd phase boss. I’m just running out of room after 4-5 minutes
nocturne palm
is this fine for a 10 SV? i kinda fucked up 3 pulls
Which build are you using, if I may ask?
atomic mountain
Which build are you using, if I may ask?
standart colo build
paper gulch
The adds aren’t so much an issue as they line up with bladestorm. It’s the singl...
Oh well just go for more single target damage then. Also dont move too early if you are. That helps.
rustic hound
Oh well just go for more single target damage then. Also dont move too early if ...
Will do! Thanks
nocturne palm
standart colo build
The one on WoWhead for m+?
atomic mountain
The one on WoWhead for m+?
yes
nocturne palm
ty
livid cloak
if you press avatar before sweeping, sweeping overrides it
incorrect, i just tested this. you can use in either order
i was worried b/c i usually use sweeping after avatar when i have torment but it looks like you can use it in either order
halcyon valve
incorrect, i just tested this. you can use in either order
Last time i tested it that was the case, you got the collateral damage stacks from the overridden sweep too
Patch might have changed that
regal socket
starting to think tusks of manoroth just doesnt really work on a night elf
fresh spire
Bug existed before where sweep canceled Collateral ramp though it was fixed at some point
elfin knot
Trying to optimize my Arms build for Raid. Is there a detailed guide ya'll recommend? AOTC + starting Mythic raiding (only two bosses down so far).
Wowhead? Archon? Icyveins?
thick kelp
wowhead
elfin knot
Aight, that was my jumping off point but I also set this build up at launch, it's probably changed a bit since then so I'll revisit.
elfin knot
1.381M DPS on Sim, logs show me 1.204M on Mythic Bloodbound. Guessing I wont see any giant strides in DPS but a swapping my ring enchants from crit to haste looks like a good idea.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YLwznNtATF1Mv8q2#fight=23&type=damage-done
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n8Aj8LhMPL3vhrquCeb64c
marsh needle
1.381M DPS on Sim, logs show me 1.204M on Mythic Bloodbound. Guessing I wont se...
bloodbound isn’t an st fight but you are on the right track, have you simmed top gear for your rings to make that conclusion?
opal kelp
Hey Guys, how are u doing? i've been running colossus a few days, and i'm pretty happy...maybe i still hit more as fury, but i feel like, in some ocasions my aoe burst is way superior as Arms
Do you guys have any suggestion?
Like, sometimes when pack is 30% save cds for next one? I'm using almost on CDs
Have reach, just 1,5m dps overall (doing only 10s)
fresh spire
Keep avatar always when packs dying.
elfin knot
bloodbound isn’t an st fight but you are on the right track, have you simmed top...
Yes, just havent signed on to redo the enchants yet. I was wondering about that Mythic Bloodbound, really feels like its about smashing the add packs faster than DPSing the boss.
fresh spire
If you got a big pack coming keep full cds
elfin knot
Partly I'm looking for that kind of per-boss info tailored for Arms. My Fury set is strong but I gear/sim for M+.
pearl basin
fkin hate this affix, need a separate keybind for trinket now
pearl basin
Yes, just havent signed on to redo the enchants yet. I was wondering about that ...
boss dps is irrelevant on bloodbound
its all about far add, everything else is whatever
elfin knot
🤘
nova marsh
fkin hate this affix, need a separate keybind for trinket now
I hate cuz the emissary is just fuckin annoying
weak wave
@dire hinge
https://wago.io/j8lkBBsVy Your WA does not load 😦
boreal quartz
check load conditions
opal kelp
<@102221603760271360>
https://wago.io/j8lkBBsVy Your WA does not load 😦
Yeah, it does not show in game
Now it showed to me
weak wave
Now it showed to me
weired for me too
opal kelp
<@102221603760271360>
https://wago.io/j8lkBBsVy Your WA does not load 😦
Overpower with Dreadnaught and Thunderclap do count for collateral dmg?
gaunt matrix
11 mist (:
scarlet spade
with pi, and augment evoker is easy 😛
gaunt matrix
def, it was all given to tank lmao
opal kelp
11 mist (:
this build?
weak wave
Overpower with Dreadnaught and Thunderclap do count for collateral dmg?
OP yes TC no
opal kelp
OP yes TC no
ty
gaunt matrix
this build?
I actually ran the wrong build but it worked out lol
marsh glade
hello all, quick question, 16 k crit+13 k haste is too much, should I dump into something else? (sorry, pretty new to the arms warrior gang)
dire hinge
<@102221603760271360>
https://wago.io/j8lkBBsVy Your WA does not load 😦
Did you get this figured out? I just checked and it loads fine once the buff is present (ie: Cleave is juiced)
warm plover
Any arms could recommend a good raiding spec? the bladestorm slayer feels awkward to use on st
devout pewter
hello all, quick question, 16 k crit+13 k haste is too much, should I dump into ...
< Best answer to that. You might be able to dump some stats somewhere else but that's something the robot can tell you better than any of us
boreal quartz
Any arms could recommend a good raiding spec? the bladestorm slayer feels awkwar...
unfortunately other tree is worse
and is clunkier
devout pewter
thing is that slayer is buffing bladestorm
devout pewter
so running slayer without bladestorm makes slayer useless. other option is colossus, which is a bit worse in ST
ocean saffron
how is the aoe dmg for arms? been only fury so far, thinking about trying out arms
devout pewter
try it, we're basically on par and it doesn't matter anyway if you're not pushing to 20s right now
devout pewter
arms is also just the best specc in the game, so just pluses there
halcyon valve
TRUE
opal kelp
Did you get this figured out? I just checked and it loads fine once the buff is ...
does it loses % if i use Cleave during the Sweeping Strikes
cause the text says, AFTER SS ends
devout pewter
nope, shouldn't. Should even increase % since cleaving 2+ targets should use slam, which gets used by SS
dire hinge
You cleave during SS because it benefits from Fervor of Battle
regal wharf
im having trouble finding youtube videos of arms povs
austere hamlet
fkin hate this affix, need a separate keybind for trinket now
is this why my avatar and trinket desync sometimes?
finite mantle
is this why my avatar and trinket desync sometimes?
Yes
austere hamlet
christ, i've been looking through all my macros trying to figure it out
fossil thistle
<:Pepexecute:595606525272391710> cleaved my way to an exact 2500 m+ rating, lets...
fossil thistle
im having trouble finding youtube videos of arms povs
Of what? Raid or M+?
Both specs are viable unless you’re pushing at the top, in which case one will be better then the other for a specific use case
fossil thistle
Hi everyone. I’m new to wow. Is arms a good spec to start with?
Arms is a great spec. If you like being tossed around and treated like a dirty rag by Blizzard
latent siren
You cleave during SS because it benefits from Fervor of Battle
Do we cleave on 2t with/without SS as colossus?
fossil thistle
I do. I could be wrong, but I MS>cleave>op>MS. MS will do more damage to two target but the recent big buff to cleave makes the damage worth it, I think.
I could be wrong still. I tend to be around 1.6-1.8M overall in 10/11s
teal fossil
I think Ms>cleave on 2 without ss
If they are already bleeding
Ms got only 5% less buffed by cleave
Do you happen to have Ms and cleave tooltips
You can just compare
fossil thistle
I think Ms>cleave on 2 without ss
You get free slam that hits 2 targets because of FoB by pressing cleave
teal fossil
But that slam is only hitting 1
So you need to do cleave x2+slam
Vs ms on 1
Ms also stacks colossus
teal fossil
I think cleave needs to hit 3?
fossil thistle
100%
ocean saffron
try it, we're basically on par and it doesn't matter anyway if you're not pushin...
i will
teal fossil
I’m not at home rn
fossil thistle
Yes, but hitting 2 target with cleave will slam, which will hit both with sweeping strikes up
ocean saffron
fury is fun but 2 clunky 2h is kinda weird looking to me lol
fossil thistle
Yes, you’d still use MS
ocean saffron
are the builds in the pins current or is there a new flavor of the week
fossil thistle
I still press it 2t because of FoB slam cleaving.
teal fossil
you press it
But Ms is still prio
And you follow the rule of trying to not use mp stacks on the cleave
fossil thistle
Yes that’s what I said earlier
🤣
You can press cleave ST too if you’re pulling a boss and going in with 21 stacks of incite.
I’ve had it crit for 5.1M ST 👀
teal fossil
Ofc
fossil thistle
Lot of people don’t know that though
I mean hell I had an arms war in a heroic pug who didn’t know OP buffed mortal strike and only used it on procs. He had like 4x my slam usage lol
teal fossil
They need hekili
uneven yacht
they need to read guide
regal wharf
Of what? Raid or M+?
Both specs are viable unless you’re pushing at the top, in ...
M+
tacit crystal
pretty sure crit cake has some videos of him playing arms
raw mural
Using the Colossus M+ build w/o execute but with warbreaker and battlelord (sorry not at home to link it), is it normal to:
- Feel rage starved sometimes in 1T/Bosses, and
- Have Demolish not quite ready at the same time for each Warbreaker?
astral talon
you wont have demolish line up with warbreaker on ST
ever
and rage starve depends on many things
battlelord procs
do you play sks
ravager timing cuz it generates rage
autoattack crits
charge weaving
ocean saffron
dam arms has hella bloat compared to fury
boreal quartz
ye
halcyon valve
regal wharf
pretty sure crit cake has some videos of him playing arms
yeah but never of slayer 💢
sick gazelle
if i record myself playing slayer arms will you use it
if he doesnt i will lol
tacit crystal
collateral damage
astral talon
Okay but how that many stacks
astral talon
Jesus haha
livid cloak
I used the cleave on the next pull after I got warbreaker and 2 op up
And died from aggri
Aggro
tacit crystal
XDDDDD
remote ledge
is there a big pull slayer build ? no 45s roar + blademaster torment, no jugg, that's it ?
tacit crystal
and warbreaker mgb etc
gaunt matrix
We need a buff
tacit crystal
neus what is your full aoe build bc everyone playing something different
remote ledge
i ended up with this
tacit crystal
yeah that works
ill just play that
ill let you guys know when im done with the video
sick gazelle
yeah tahts basically what i use
uncut delta
tacit crystal
bc more st
oak kite
I saw in MDI The War Within | Group B | Day 1 vid on youtube, Arms warrior has been used. Who was it? Is there a video of it?
eager sigil
I saw in MDI The War Within | Group B | Day 1 vid on youtube, Arms warrior has b...
tmy i think
tacit crystal
was tmy
quasi torrent
why watch someone who went out last
thorn pelican
because its arms warrior in high level format
sick gazelle
because theyre still good even if they got last
astral yarrow
Tmy good? SMH
quasi torrent
daring flicker
bomb defused
finite mantle
:3
mint spindle
anyone know why my Weak Aura trigger for Spell usable on Execute shows it is usable earlier than notmal?
livid cloak
anyone know why my Weak Aura trigger for Spell usable on Execute shows it is usa...
Sudden death?
prime storm
anyone know why my Weak Aura trigger for Spell usable on Execute shows it is usa...
try Cooldown/Charges/Count and check off Exact Spell Match + use the exact spell ID
devout pewter
its necessary that rend and tclap are two different buttons
I still don't know why Rend isn't just something that is baked into something else. Like Overpower or fuck it maybe even Slam(bring back Heroic Strike for it ffs!) and then has the added functionality with Thunder Clap...
damn I don't even know why it's a Talent anymore
livid cloak
Maintaining the dot isn't even a big deal
devout pewter
definitly, but it feels weird having a talentpoint be THIS immensely important. But hey at least it's relatively far up the path so you have no issue getting to it
devout pewter
note: don't think I want Rend removed or something, that's fine, just wondering why it's still a talent point or/and baked into something to avoid bloat
livid cloak
Having something apply deep wounds and rend would be weird
Managing the dot isn't bad
tardy crag
Could also ask with same line of thought why major cds arnt Just baseline but this isn't really going anywhere
devout pewter
There are core talent points for every spec
true as well.. maybe I'm overthinking this 😄
teal fossil
Could also ask with same line of thought why major cds arnt Just baseline but th...
Then you just go back to the pre dragonflight days
Almost every class was weaker back then
tardy crag
Point being if u didn't have like 4 mandatory points in your tree that are huge u feel like the tree is boring and choices don't matter
Much more then u already do
devout pewter
true, yea
teal fossil
Every spec has those mandatory points
The tree has always been an illusion of choice
shadow ibex
biggest cleave
teal fossil
That being said arms has some of the most egregious nodes
halcyon valve
We should cook up the build with the lowest possible dps and do keys with it
teal fossil
I gotchu
Wait up
Nvm mobile is hard
Try this
Wait bloodletting is op here
Change something out for that
Bloodletting without rend must go crazy
halcyon valve
Hell yeah, i did something very similar
Changing EB for bleed dmg would definitely be a big downgrade tho
But cant easily change individual talents on mobile
Went for ToM because haste is too good still
Tho spiteful tom might be big
worldly kernel
@nova marsh I tried doing some troll collosus builds but they ended up actually making sense
worldly kernel
Hell yeah, i did something very similar
now you're cooking
halcyon valve
Class side is cursed
nova marsh
Who needs cooldowns
halcyon valve
There you go
sick gazelle
whos going to run these
sick gazelle
skull splitter with no rend is cursed