#arms
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Pug incident
As per usual
if you guys are kicking then maybe
Dude
it's not kicks
You can't kick cog
I'm popping defensives for pulse and still dying
They also have 5 deaths lmao
God I really hate Coalg
This still wont be nearly enough to make it competitive though, all it means is that the button is now worth pushing over slam, it still has no effect on cleave/AoE
Vulpera are 5K DPS behind the next lowerst (lightforged draenei) the buff wont do anything, they will still be bottom
Spatial rift buff is juicy, velf ftw
wonder how good zandalari will be though, kimbul is getting gigabuffed
How the hell are you guys getting 8 mil cleaves?
Need to setup all one million modifiers
guys, i'm starting to think that we went from hot garbage, to like lukewarm garbage
One from ss second from op then wb ava demolish and ravager...
10% amp from demo
now let demo get crit chance from everything that affects MS crit chance

Man that's a lot of micro management for a possible payoff. I managed to hit a 7 mill cleave crit.

I'm always so scared I'm going to die man
We really need something back to help us survive
we talked about it a day or so ago, Ignore Pain just needs to be good again
I feel pretty good with d stance, spell reflect, and impending victory
haven't been doing 12+ tho
yeah it's mostly not bad, i personally don't consider fury to be superior. But their permanent hot via bloodthirst(I think that's still a thing?) is pretty good
but a good ignore pain would be awesome
true
yea its fine to do cloak but means you cant wear rashanan cloak. cances of getting that arent great tho
are their any embelishment limitations with going weapon/cloak?
i guess im just going raiding setup
am in the same boat kinda, but I'll still go for the wrist piece soonish 😄
Thinking of going velf from belf
Hey does anyone have the PI sheet for classes?
dw i found it https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-XWpGoG88/htmlview#
Bt isnt the reason fury is tanky he has like 15% dr and more stats due to wearing two 2hs
Progging on heroic queen it's hilarious how reckless I can be on fury

did they fix the collosus node for ignore pain so that it actually gives 20% more shield now, bc it doesnt show in the tooltip
Are these new buffs?
They are live since last reset.
Hmm
i swear dreadnaught does 0 dmg compared to df
that tends to happen when a spell gets what was it a 58% nerf?
what are the m+ slayer/colossus specs rn?
ty
its not even updated no ?
it is
last post was from 14/9, or perhaps im missing smth
It's doing the same for me and it's weird. I hope they fix this soon!
i do not understand how this build sims so high ST, i cant get even close to sim numbers on a dummy like i can with other builds. also juggernaut keeps dropping because i just get drought periods with 0 sudden death procs
does anyone play this build?
lmao the result of the rasha'nan parse changes is pretty comical
Filter to dmg to boss and it's better
true
as it stands now, i think to push rank on rash u need to ask your guild to afk xD
fuckin dumb
yes
like all the top logs look like this
mythic and heroic its really lame
if u wanna parse on heroic rash, its probably best to join the shittiest dogshit pug u can find and ask ppl not to kill adds xD
Playing the game through Warcraft Logs is a thing today. We love statistics in this postindustrial society, the god of all the truths
It's not you my personal pet peeve with slayer ST is your dmg can highly vary with SD and mark procs
He can edit it without making a new post
it just feels like the worse iteration of arms ive ever played
its so slow and sluggish and feels so random
slayer is supposed to feel fast and chaotic no
That's why after the nerfs I just play Colo ST lol, but honestly at this point I would say play fury if u are heroic progging
i enjoy arms rn only in high keys
I like arms but not enough to hold back people, Colo still good in keys tho
fury also fun in high keys but also fun everywhere else
Well fast would involve a haste buff
So no that was not the intent
or just a proc frequency buff
it needs to feel fast
But yeah arms slayer kinda ends up playing really passive
arms slayer feels like im playing a rotation from wotlk
Our rotation has been basically the same since shadowlands
So idk what you mean by worst iteration
i miss BFA when i could just warbreaker, avatar, bladestorm and top the meters
feels bad. i played arms much more in DF and it felt smooth

It’s like the same thing
nah
A bit more spice with bladestorm now
Tell me the difference
What prio changed
On st
Outside of no ww
And we press bladestorm once every 45 ish seconds
Execute changed a bit
I think you just hate the fact slayer is kind of rng procs
Which is fair imo
But they can fix execute by tuning mortal strike up a bit more
Yeah it’s random and a bit too passive
That’s valid
But i don’t get slow/sluggish
Especially since we currently play iftk on st too
the amount of times you have to press slam and cleave in st makes it feel sluggish. the fact that the talents that allow you to use MS and overpower more are simming less is what bothers me
spec just flows better with them
Eb was never good
And op was frankly overpowered in sl/df
20% of your damage coming from a free filler
ah okej, thx bro
And Battlelord was hard carried by the fact that it also gave op damage
If this spec was topping the meters you won’t be here saying this
True
Yeah op and burrs doing alot of dmg
“Poorly designed fundamental problem”
Fairy warrior 
9.1 arms top tier
0 changes outside of numbers tuning
“This spec plays fluid and well”
The frequency you need to slam on st right now is only a bit more than when you had to ww on st
Ww on st was actually dumb
Like I don’t get how you think pressing tc and ww on st is any better than pressing slam
At least slam does good damage
Tc and ww is pressed to dump rage
idk why youre trying to change my mind on this with logic. its a subjective matter of feel. i didnt play SL but i played arms in DF and BFA and Legion and it never felt worse to me than it does in TWW
if you enjoy it, all the power to you
Im not saying I enjoy it
bruh
Wasn't BFA arms having the node crushing assault or smth where you had to hit slam
SL arms was sick you missed out
I’m saying it’s not valid to say tww is significantly worse when it’s basically the same
Since your ms just hit so fucking hard
Besides you were just the top st spec in keys 
Casino gaming too
Was this in the later seasons
Also remember the eb bug
S1 arms was mid as f
“Brb lemme switch out of wb”
Like didn't enjoy fairy warrior and quit after aotc
Because wb was bugged with eb
im sure arms will get better naturally with ilvls and crit going up
2>3>4>1=pp
Cope
So !!!! Thinking to return to wow after Shadowlands.... Is Arms still better?
Than what
Better than what
Enha? No
than fury
This is 140% true 🙌
even blizzard know arms is bad with the new BFA meta achievement called "A Farewell to Arms"
mop demo moment
if its trash surely we get a buff
rework inc
No
Me when achievements are ingame
no they like it being trash. arms is blizz's basic bish bland spec that new players are meant to graduate from to something more interesting
no thats bm
haha
fdk
Ye
Feel like bm is always somehow viable
High margin of error, decent base dps even with bad play
Also has high limits if pilot is good
cuz its always broken scaling or whatever shit
Only times iirc BM is bad when their numbers are utterly nuked
also its simple as door
The s word has been uttered
Back in the day Warrior was the shit... Now they just recruit them to say we support diversity
wat
20
20 years ago
now that you mention it yea... i feel old
When people still had landlines
wat? i thought only 30++ only play wow
I have a lot of 20+ guildies
imagine being sub 25 yo and u play wow instead of all the games out there

haha
My guild is legit mostly 30-40s including me
Uncles playing from BC wotlk era
there are not new players in wow after like what.... Draenor guys cmon
@thick kelpwait I need to swap cat
idk I started in Slands
I mean people come and go but doesn't change the fact it's a long time 
I started in SL, but still old and experienced from other wow killers
worst expac ive ever playex
only played 1 month though
Voted
what ar eyou guys voting for
President of USA
Kamala Trump
i can vote
everyone can vote
who do you want me to vote for
I vote for Body 2
A nice name for Prot warr btw ''Trumpswall''
Don't like Body 1
i am definitely eligable to vote in NA
voting for merkel
Opinions on blizzard adding a freedom to rescue
cause döner 3€
JAAAA MEINE KANZLERIN RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
and call it bulkszn
where is my gif huh
Devil of europe
its there
it this internet dying during wow download moment
happens to the best of us
thats jsut discord
i can NOT play any video on discord
images sometimes take ages to load
gifs dont play
2024
i can watch several 4k streams at the same time
👍
das Internet ist für uns alle Neuland
So true bestie
anything good this month?
you dont have to be, just commit voter fraud!
and ALL class weps/sets returned
Work overtime, buy tenders 😉( pls don't do it )
Yo did u guys see the racial changes?
and they didn't even update undead
the literal worst racials
gg

at least we get 500 additional tenders this month
lmao
tendussies
Jabroni oufit
Nice tabard

👍
i had 4k or so
what i must do ex time?
huh
what
how to sex on arms
ex phase 34 %
exe once usable
or be this thing
so pretty
HOLY
at 0 mmr
actualyl
you have 1min q
i copy mags right
ye
Play demo till enemy realizes they can just walk thru you to dodge it
it gets funny when ppl dont expect damage
They will pop wall on your avatar
was watching pika play colo
was so stupid
What happened yday
what u mean exe one useable
can u explane more ?
you start ur exe rotation once its usable
which do you think is worth more?
do u have
30% veersa
without that pvp piece
wait no its fucking
over 10 ilvls for u
in pvp
item restore
warrior getting more buffs in 11.0.7 PTR?
ive heard about some racial tunnin, dwarven still bis
i tried to play that, i sitted around 20 minutes... i even forgot that i was in queue xD was farmin some minerals
jojo. i tryed colo inm m+ now. is it niormal to lose like 200k allround dmg cause i am not to familiar or does it jsut say i am shit XD
exactly
it is not going well
CLAPPA
am i getting this right? you only need 1 nascent crest to craft a 2h?
correct
craft 2h seems pretty cheap compared with 1h then
How's colossus for HC Court @thick kelp
and what build should I be using
sorry for tag, hope that's fine lol
@thick kelp
HOLY
Just play same as Mythic
I'm excited to get back into arms again, and been watching critcake. He seems to play a build with ravager and no sks. Are there any more In depth guides to look at for rotation help or info about it ?
It seems pretty simple, cleave your balls off
man, I hate playing with rogues. because they start whining about chain pulling "pls let me restealth every pack pls"
But most guides are sks/storm
I don't play mythic lol
meanwhile I watch my demo stacks tick down
No Colossus guide has Bladestorm I think.
You most likely are looking at Slayer guides no?
SKS is just a filler, It will most likely be included within guides but you just ignore it as a step if you don't have it talented
Maybe my browser is messing up, I tried toggling it off on wowhead
I'll check again thanks. You still have a discord tmy ? I used to follow that forever for all things arms
y
Im playing pokerogue
Thanks
Yeah play tmys page
if you want to use less brain swap to troar and use 45s roar
if you want touse even less brain you can play slarms

its a good game QQ
M+ but lower keys, below 12
Unethical build
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYmZmZMjZmFLLLjZAAAAYw0wMDLzYGYsMmZGMzwADzwAAAAAAAgZMLjxAsFYssNwCYAzwEyAsB
ethical build
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAzMzMjZMmFLLLzMDAAAADmGmZYZGzAjlxMzgZGGYYGGAAAAAAA8AjZZmZGgtAjltBWADYGmQGgN
sucks to suck idk
Ty wahle ill check tonight, what u mean by unethical. I can't see what they have that is
Unethical means talenting out of more ST nodes
Ethical build has more ST nodes
🙂
Thanks boss
is this the st colo raid build? i only got slayer st build, i wanna try out colo after buffs
its for silken court
shmilken court
biggest whale do you got colo st raid super build?
colo build in mists 8. is this okayish?
For an 8 I'd say yea that's pretty good.
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAzYmZMzMzsZZZZmBAAAADmGmZYbGzADDzM2MzwwYYGGAAAAAAAMjZbmZAIAYzMG2gBmRb0AYB
Yep
I have nothing more to add besides colossus arms slapps holy
Dopamine from demo crits


Doing col on court and your demo doesn't crit on the damage amp so you tank your parse.
sounds like you need more crit
Donairs, nothing better than a Halifax style donair down on pizza corner. So many dumb drunks and silliness to watch while you enjoy your greasy fat pill.
willy's poutine > donair
Are there any good weak aura sets n such for arms ?
Not a gravy fan, but Smoke's poutine are still the hot thing in the city.
Arms is so back, 10 stone vault
Shaman afk?
Fotm players not knowing what buttons to press 
It was a flavor player
willy's clears smokes by a landslide
But only the correct ones. Not the Drehspieß shit with more minced meat than anything else. Tastes like shit.
hey i might test slayer man, ive seen some huge slayers overalls
You're in for some fun then, welcome
what do arms need to be more tankier in keys? since we are paper compared to fury. what could blizzard fix for arms if we could dream big ?
Make dstance a 20 sec cooldown and have it do 20% DR
Rogues have feint, we should have something similar
Have it cost rage
And CDR through rage spending
Called spell reflect
If anything ignore pain should be a cooldown no rage cost instead.
make it stronger and give it a longer CD with no or very low rage cost
make it 30 sec or some shit
Yeah, they’d have to make it stronger
With a significant health % absorb shield
30 second CD with the equivalente of stacking ignore pain 3 times in a row?
Pressing Def stance more often
That’s sounds pretty good, especially pairing it with dstance would make it huge
any tips on arms single target in M+ ? im doing garbage dps. charge/rend/roar/ava+wbreaker/MS/demolish/ms. and then im into juggling OP/MS and sometimes cleaving when i have nothing else to press
does anything there seems super far off?
doing like 600k on target dummy
How much ilvl do you have
610
Try simming your toon for ST. And like Monmonk said you’re 610ilvl
ok ty
is it ok to cleave in ST if i have nothing else to press?
or should i actually use slam
Slaam
Really, is it downtown or somewhere else?
Next time I go home to visit the family I'll have to partake.
am i blind or as arms do we have like, 0 defensives besides die by the sword?
die by the sword, impending victory, spell reflect
for group you have commanding shout
jeez
you can also spec into ignore pain
ok gotta get used to that 🙂
Btw walhe haven't checked the builds you linked me yet, but do they have skullsplitter?
no
🙏
Question in aoe should I just wait for cleave to be up while I got the Overpower buff or is it fine to hit mortal strike? I mostly just play prot so don't know much about arms
any good ST builds where i dont have to subject myself to SKS?
Feel like slayers better than colossus?
I really like how much my dmg spikes when I use demolish
Is colossus on M court bait ?
Maybe blunt instead of wb?
how do you pull thid dps. insane broooo.
Should I use cleave in single target if I have 3 stacks of collateral damage, or should I ignore it?
For me depends on the dungeon, I pull about 1.2m st dps with warbreaker, if more ST I’ll swap to blunt
Any advice on dpsing the last boss in MoTS? It could be a tanking issue but on these +13 ish keys the puddles are unforgiving, especially when hidden during the shield phase explosions. I find if I misstep for 1 second I’m a goner.
no
but it requires the most effort out of all 4 hero specs to play

Yah I'd still recc thane fury / slayer arms for court
If you dont want to be
^ thane / slayer
yeah its on pizza corner, half a block down blowers. little window
the tech is to all stack and move together
Yeah that’s what I thought. Appreciate the feedback, trying to figure out if there are ways I can help myself out when pugs go rogue
yo, do sims not take the meta gems crit thing into account? my sims doesnt want me to have one of each color for some reason
How does one achieve super sweat status will col arms on court. I run it but I could definitely do better, it's my lowest parsing fight.
Can't seem to figure out CD timings.
You need big crit for demolish refund for demolish to properly align
Send everything at the 16-18s mark and then on cd basically
The hard part for me was figuring out where to send ravager early to maximize my chance of having demolish + amp overlap
that feel when you don't get accepted to any +12 even with all 11s timed, 5/8 ++, and a 0,1% title
feels bad
Yea I don't have as much crit as I'd ideally want which may be what's fucking me over
Gotta have both of these seleceted
the 2nd one shows up after you tick the first one
it's usually because it's a DPS loss over just using the gems you want, it's really not that good
Ahh, ty
What kind of crit %?
Around 40%
No wonder...
My demo sucks at like 28
Playing that is
I nedd big crit neck and i cannot lie
flask of tempered aggression
Got ya, also, good to see another Blue noser in here.
Does anyone have a WA for when ravager will send MS?
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
courtesy of TMY
Thanks! 😄
howcome new execute doesnt swing horizontally like it used to with sweeping strikes D:
is arms better now for m+ then?
When playing Colossus in M+ should i just use demolish off cd?
off cd ideally with wb
like if ur wb is in 5 and ur demo is ready
u obv farm ur wb
alright ty
dreadnaught did 2.3% of my overall, wouldnt soa just be better ?
Possibly
i tried your ethical build, did very good on boss, but my aoe was trash
snipe executes more
to stack jugg
and keep sweeping executes + eps
the ethical one is supposed to play like the Jugg build from DF s3
Wb?
warbreaker
Oh duh lol
i ahvent played wow since bfa, and htis is my very first season playing warrior
EPS ?
executioners precision ?
yes
thanks phil
yes i wasn't sniping execute at all
also remember u still cleave 4 reap the storm
and with unethical build, anything special ? still sniping exec and using everything on cd
i mean
if ur just goin for aoe
u just cleave>op>ms (ideally dont eat mp stacks for cleave)
i guess i was playing like this with jugg, which now thinking about it doesnt make sense
demolish or?
is the ring from queen BiS? most people use other rings
Warbringer*
@astral talon
Colossus ofcs
me when i use unobtainable tmog
He isnt called Chadding for no reason
love me some magni icc set
0 armor boss crank
More like mdi rekt
Blame the team not the spec 
ok but dps where O_O
Both teams had similiar dps tbh
real
sent the blob boss home gj sir @dull siren
20% cleave buff ty blizzard
30% ms buff pls
So is there a bug that cancels bladestorm if you kick or use storm bolt
Or am I tripping if I use one too fast into it, it just stops
did they fix the collosus node for ignore pain so that it actually gives 20% more shield, bc it STILL doesnt show in the tooltip
check your macros
It can’t be an @mouseover? that’s all I have
Where can I look this guy up?
No stop channel or cast line
@austere hamlet it was on warcraft channel i have it up still i can dm u what u need
That’d be great, just want all the info I can get. Full talents etc
Im 621 ilvl atm, is it normal for us to have less than 6 mil health?
yup
That I will in my life see a warrior dps in an MDI ... I can't believe it
wtf is that XD
he got so scared to answer this
Did our talents change this patch for M+ and raiding?
Is slayer still the go to?
we're so back
Play what you like most, my sim they were very close, but Colossus is best
i like slayer cause execute
we arent back
we were never gone
Tmy is just flexing
he's the reason we'll get nerfed again
blizz just saw that and thought "where did we go wrong there?"
worst part is
as long as soft and hardcap exists
the meta will still run rampant
they can try everything for mdi and stuff
but its just hindering some class
Didn't expect to win match 1 eitherway, We raid 13:00-17:00 weekends and practice max like 4hours 4days per week
you cant compete against people with no life anyway
went pretty well tho in my non important opinion
they get so much hours into the game
xd
we were fast
tbh stonevault was a bit of "go a bit smaller" in some area's
We fucked 1 thing in City that lost us a bit of time
And thanks to Tmy we're likely have less worse time finding groups too!
true
where do we find the full talent tree? Haven't been watching MDIs a lot prior
wowhead should be fine, or tmy can just post his trees 😛
I'd take his destro trees too 😄
send help
Everyday😅, just get shield
found a group, believe in your dreams kids
Hey peeps maybe a silly question but what’s the better weapon enchant for arms? Depths or Authority? .. authority sounds better but wow head says depth
Err radiant 

but I've seen a lot of depths
and even tho radiant sims a bit better for me i'll probably grab depths too lmao
I’m wondering if cleave gives it a chance to apply for all
Is there a solid build without cleave or is cleave a must for dungs to do any real damage
hey is there a aoe opener for colossus arms ? (cant see it in the wowhead guide)
wanted to know where / when to SS and Demolish when spamming cleave hmh
SS makes FOB hit another target
Go in, clap, troar, avatar warbreaker, ss, mortals and cleaves, demolish at 10 stacks
You can cleave either when you open, to get stacks faster, or closer to the end of sweeping so you do big buffed cleave from collateral damage
so delay demolish... i guess it will be reach 10 stacks before SS ends ?
You can also try to get few stacks of SS first before big rotation, but I personally don't
If you play EB, or battlelord
And IF you throw ravager at the start
You will get it in like 3-4 globals
nope ex blows and battlelord arent in the m+ build
They are for many people, and for some dungeons
Hello guys ! I just join the Discord and i have a question i just made a +13 dawn ans on the 2nd boss i died 3 times in row even on CD Def, is it me or our CD Def are just not enough for higher key ?
a lot of people are using EB
I play both eb and bl
Use ip and def stance too
You should never be close to death on that boss
You have defensives for everything the boss does
not sure what a CD deff is. but you can literally heal yourself up after the orb with VR / IV and then sit in dstance for the raiddmg .. reflect DR can also be used
Assuming healer is not an ape, you should stay alive with dstance, Iv, and reflect
^^
Dbts for that one bad overlap with aoe dmg and orb exploding
I didnt have this feeling on +12 or +11 its just me the thx for the reply !
mhm i assume they swap it with massacre for more aoe
You still need a lot of help from healer of course
Useless in dawbreaker 
Rashanan useless, other bosses and rest of the dung you do a lot of dmg from eb and battlelord
hey raidlead .. why this boss starts at 60%.. and why does hunter dont mark it?
Guild was angry at me for not using shockwave on mythic progress
Thsts one global not spent on execute
i needed that to prevent the adds snacking my butt 
Dbts if on me
And even with the up we agree that its still difficult to find a Group in + 12 or its just my bad luck ?
You're still a warrior who doesn't bring much outside of dmg will always be tough to get in 12s
And pugs get a hard on when they see it lol
Warr actually brings decent amount of things now
Decent dmg
Rally
Reflect is huge sometimes
Very good aoe stun
Prot warrior why bring a dps warrior over say a shaman
Cuz it's a pug and you're not in the great push finals
Most pugs actually don't gatekeep that hard
That doesn't matter pugs treat pug keys like the end all be all
All about score and ilvl
rally thats not get buffed in 5man content
reflect thats gets kicked.. and not even work in raids consistantly
Good thing i personally dont care for anything over 10s. I neither have the time to practice for it nor do I want to spend more time on tje game when I can do other stuff.
And in that regard, I'm fine finding groups.
oh wow ^^ meanwhile no other class can aoe stun ^^
Thank you XD
yo lads, what spec are we sending in keys atm, archon says slayer but i thought colossus was the move
Do what you Like more
everything works ^^
Both are fine
Dps warriors "bring stuff" just stuff no one really cares about more so if u can get a good prot tank. I wish Blizzard made dps wars more valuable to a dung group
We do as Colossus
You still have decent niche uses
haste good
Like soaking tentacles in grim batol last boss
but you'll also play warbreaker if you are doing giga pulls
if ur not doin giga pulls you play CS
And that's a reason to bring a dps warrior?...
Ehhh, want a reason to bring any dps?
Any at all
Damage
Noone gives a fuck about your utility, damage matters
. . .
You'll never have any other reason to bring any dps

Tmy! 
Any chance we get to see your build?
(Also the destro build pls 😄 )
Everything else is small shit
Unless you really need shroud
Thank you! Just a bit of an insight
At like 17k iirc
This is a deluded take tbh, Idk what world you live in where damage matters mostly.
utility is as valued as damage being able to pull more and making things to smoother and quicker
20k for vers
This is wild
so having 35% haste is not worth ?
Sim it ...
Dr doesht matter if it sims better
Idk I just copied Wexi talents on Warlock
I've played warlock for like less then 24hours
How warlock feels now?
What does enh bring, or frost dk
Except for damage?
You kidding right
I mean one has a lust and one has a rez off the top of my head
As do many other specs, you can have resto healer
Ranged kicks
DK :
Grip, Blind, Not a hardlocked Melee Kick, AMS
Enh :
Best buff currently, Cap totem, Giga priority damage, Ranged Kick as Melee.
Warrior :
Cleave, Melee Kick, Shockwave that's the worst stun in the game but Colossus makes it a knockup so a bit better.
Ams so almost the same as reflect, okay
There's even more but I don't have time to spend on some delulu guy making random statements that make 0 sense
@astral talon i still think we need plenty utility buffing for warr 
-> bitter immunity: 3min is way to long for pve. compared to cleansing totem, cloak, .. or regular dispells.. so should be 2min or added group value for 5man pve content
-> spell reflect: i still feel to much punishment for group interrupts. or could also add a " 1 nearly party member gets 20% DR".. (similar tot the dk ams)
-> berserker shout: is nice this time (surely rar use-case). but still needs a talent point - should be at least party wide or 30yards (similar to totem)
-> rallying cry: .. needs 5man content scaling ... as plenty other spells have in the game
AMS is 10 times better then reflect
U missing that woyeor has way less damage
It doesn't really
100 times
Debatable
It's not your clueless and it's fine you can debate your delulu takes with someone else

It just doesn't fit as well into a comp as the other specs currently.
HUH
Compared to dk fury can compete but not ench 
I mean, In city for example.
I could've played better in the MDI Match today I even fucked up a CD timing on 2nd boss.
The damage output is pretty equal to enha.
It's just the fact that the Enha spec can just go crazy with RNG
@dull siren thoughts ?
#arms message
Rally is fine
Wasn't rly nerfed like 3 times by now?
Bitter Immunity can be removed overall just a piss spell, We don't really need any more self healing with Second Wind + Impending Victory back in the game and It also doesn't make any sense of a "Warrior" to be able to dispell if you were to live up to class idenity within the game.
Spelll Reflect is never gonna change, Likely that they could've done the change to intervene where it would take a spell but it would be to strong in PvP to just Intervene > Spell Reflect CC.
Berserker Shout is okay, But very niche
Rally is already good for raiding, Can't ask for our raid cooldown to be better in M+
kinda.. and has not gained buffs for 5man content
Warrior dispel should inflict self dmg
warriors need lust
Just cut the messed up peice off
i need lust or 0 invites m+
rather had some sort of rage dispell or utility KEKW
no b rez no lust meh dps
No lust
warriors need something
Only thing I would want for warriors is + 1 second on Shockwave as well as If you'd want more utility.
Warrior Fear should be uncapped.
That's all the spec needs, It's fine.
It doesn't need more
fear .. meeh .. aoe silence ? 
a 5% aura buff for good measure
Better access to fear would be cool
lets talk about warrior fear having a horrible range
Access is fine, But it's just a horrible spell.
It's target capped it has short range
i cant fucking snipe people across the world with my fear
Doesnt matter stop trolling ur uptime
no
I guess aoe silence like belf racial was before would be cool
how am i supposed to fear the dev spamming disintegrate for 30 seconds
And would give us 2nd reliable cc, into casters at least
add a 10% more endurance to the 10 % more armor talent
freak spamming hover and i cant melee him
Ur never catching dragon
Play Script
Also selfhealing is beyond stupid right now
I think I have some screenshot with a
4mil fueled by violence
heal
yep i just hit lock or healer
More violence = more fuel
Its told in talent it heals 85% in fact less ...
You gotta win for warrs to get instant invites to any key till the end of season, MDI pass for the spec 

leak the comp
? There's nothin special
You just drop the Frost DK and play warrior and make up the missing utility factor with Prot Paladin / DH
We just played a bad comp in City due to that's what we used in time trials

Druid buff is just good
Fury isn't good
because i assume your rogue is sin or outlaw so he either does giga prio or is a 2nd fury
so we play sin arms

Fury is awful for MDI / Probably high keys down the road.
Arms, Colossus just has really good consistent damage and isn't cooldown dependant.
You can do damage every 30sec
Fury is really good for Raid
Arms just is uncapped with Cleave, Has better cooldowns for most of it
Arms slayer is also fine, But colossus is just more tanky
Cleave is still soft capped
So is a lot of things soft cap vs being fully capped @ 5 targets with WW stacks
You have CDs on Fury then ur dry
being hard capped at 5 outside of cds is worse than soft at 5 outside
Fury is also trash st
do you not think it would be worth if your rogue is playing sin
or do you just go go go fast fast fast
Go go
Rogue hits prio target as well as I focus prio target but have really good DPS consistently
ig if you were going higher keys it would have higher value
I don't know what the MDI casters said but there's a huge boss DPS gain for Colossus overall and I don't do the same as I do as a Destro Warlock for example
mdi is capped at 10-12?
9-11
they want to keep the seasonal affix within and MDI isn't about pushing
it's about going fast
When was warrior in mdi last?
2 mdi's ago last time i played
xddd
but that was just a 4 fun thing
prot in s1 df?
now it's actually playable and people are considering to play it
the last time dps warrior was legit in mdi was legion
Okay should clarify
Holy fuck
the more i play aug the more cosmetic i feel other than spamming rescue
its just played more
No? It's just played more
Arms will always be superior. Because without arms, you can't hit the boss 👍
i usually play arms bcs i think its more fun than fury
Fury doesn't preform better, It's just played more by some One tricks.
but though fury was better atm for m+
0 difference warrior is a bad target for aug buffs
might be better now with cleave consistent dmg
If Fury was better for M+ I would play it in MDI, But it has the same issues it would have in high keys.
You pump and dump damage.
There is 0 consistency you fall of hard meanwhile Arms excels
like i swear i just do rotation and spam rescue on one of 2 shamans

me as well
dw
at least me playing aug is a learning experience
easily being a better player the more i play it and with my group
everytime i have to press slam, i die a little inside
yeah thats why i have it on m+ build on a very odd keybind 😄
@dull siren are you playing colo eb?
colossus feels like it pumps in keys to me
Not in that city run gio
as long as i don't fight a st boss
EB? no
ST is fine
show sauce
I had someone link me a vod
here @tacit crystal
that's the city run the only run so far
I linked talents earlier when @devout pewter asked
mb
sad day tho less demolishes without battlelord 😦
The only thing you change for high keys likely is Dreadnaught > SoA
can a take slam off my bar if I'm running colossus?
No
damn.
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dn just feels so cosmetic
maybe im just doing rotation wrong and barely press op
I miss 30 rage abilities but idk if I could go back to rend and tclap being 30
20 rage tclap is the bees knees
I'll take a 30 rage slam that does damage tho 
The most barbaric of the trainings
Dat me
When I sim for single target the sim is slamming like a fucking pog champion
We so barbaric we got Augustus yelling give me back my legions

Also, I think my rogue logged our MDI run
so can probs post that tomrw
@tacit crystal @devout pewter
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Yo @dull siren where did you get the blue ICC set from? 😮 or is it not avaiable in game
Not avalible in game xdd
is this just saying you would play soa the higher you go?
I would play SoA over Dreadnaught @ +15's
or 14's



