#arms

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nova marsh
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So I have a complete trash dogwater healer

quaint otter
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Pug incident

nova marsh
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As per usual

sick gazelle
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if you guys are kicking then maybe

nova marsh
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Dude

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it's not kicks

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You can't kick cog

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I'm popping defensives for pulse and still dying

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They also have 5 deaths lmao

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God I really hate Coalg

void shell
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This still wont be nearly enough to make it competitive though, all it means is that the button is now worth pushing over slam, it still has no effect on cleave/AoE

nova marsh
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I mean

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It's still not a lot of dps.

void shell
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Vulpera are 5K DPS behind the next lowerst (lightforged draenei) the buff wont do anything, they will still be bottom

weak rain
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Spatial rift buff is juicy, velf ftw

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wonder how good zandalari will be though, kimbul is getting gigabuffed

icy mulch
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How the hell are you guys getting 8 mil cleaves?

quaint otter
full furnace
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guys, i'm starting to think that we went from hot garbage, to like lukewarm garbage

quaint otter
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One from ss second from op then wb ava demolish and ravager...

shadow ibex
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10% amp from demo

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now let demo get crit chance from everything that affects MS crit chance

icy mulch
latent moss
granite swift
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I'm always so scared I'm going to die man

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We really need something back to help us survive

devout pewter
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we talked about it a day or so ago, Ignore Pain just needs to be good again

boreal wasp
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I feel pretty good with d stance, spell reflect, and impending victory

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haven't been doing 12+ tho

devout pewter
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yeah it's mostly not bad, i personally don't consider fury to be superior. But their permanent hot via bloodthirst(I think that's still a thing?) is pretty good

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but a good ignore pain would be awesome

boreal wasp
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true

paper summit
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IF i have good bracers already is it ok to craft cloak?

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or even ring?

shadow ibex
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yea its fine to do cloak but means you cant wear rashanan cloak. cances of getting that arent great tho

paper summit
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are their any embelishment limitations with going weapon/cloak?

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i guess im just going raiding setup

devout pewter
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am in the same boat kinda, but I'll still go for the wrist piece soonish 😄

balmy kindle
fresh sierra
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whats the best build for colo?

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i feel like i dont do shit ST in 12s

grave mulch
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Hey does anyone have the PI sheet for classes?

fresh sierra
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@grave mulch

quaint otter
balmy kindle
quaint otter
placid pecan
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did they fix the collosus node for ignore pain so that it actually gives 20% more shield now, bc it doesnt show in the tooltip

weak wave
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Are these new buffs?

fickle lotus
weak wave
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Hmm

balmy kindle
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Was fun though when ms got a 30% buff by mistake

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MS hit like a truck

placid pecan
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i swear dreadnaught does 0 dmg compared to df

snow pagoda
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that tends to happen when a spell gets what was it a 58% nerf?

teal fossil
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that’s the intent

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Dn is quite op

young creek
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what are the m+ slayer/colossus specs rn?

tacit crystal
young creek
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ty

radiant gale
tacit crystal
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it is

radiant gale
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last post was from 14/9, or perhaps im missing smth

fallen thistle
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It's doing the same for me and it's weird. I hope they fix this soon!

low elk
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i do not understand how this build sims so high ST, i cant get even close to sim numbers on a dummy like i can with other builds. also juggernaut keeps dropping because i just get drought periods with 0 sudden death procs

does anyone play this build?

pulsar elk
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lmao the result of the rasha'nan parse changes is pretty comical

sly venture
pulsar elk
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true

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as it stands now, i think to push rank on rash u need to ask your guild to afk xD

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fuckin dumb

pulsar elk
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like all the top logs look like this

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mythic and heroic its really lame

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if u wanna parse on heroic rash, its probably best to join the shittiest dogshit pug u can find and ask ppl not to kill adds xD

sly venture
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Playing the game through Warcraft Logs is a thing today. We love statistics in this postindustrial society, the god of all the truths

balmy kindle
teal fossil
low elk
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its so slow and sluggish and feels so random

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slayer is supposed to feel fast and chaotic no

balmy kindle
low elk
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i enjoy arms rn only in high keys

balmy kindle
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I like arms but not enough to hold back people, Colo still good in keys tho

low elk
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fury also fun in high keys but also fun everywhere else

teal fossil
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So no that was not the intent

low elk
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it needs to feel fast

teal fossil
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But yeah arms slayer kinda ends up playing really passive

low elk
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arms slayer feels like im playing a rotation from wotlk

teal fossil
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Our rotation has been basically the same since shadowlands

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So idk what you mean by worst iteration

low elk
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i miss BFA when i could just warbreaker, avatar, bladestorm and top the meters

teal fossil
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Top meters with deep wounds

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Congratulations

low elk
balmy kindle
teal fossil
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It’s like the same thing

low elk
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nah

teal fossil
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A bit more spice with bladestorm now

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Tell me the difference

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What prio changed

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On st

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Outside of no ww

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And we press bladestorm once every 45 ish seconds

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Execute changed a bit

balmy kindle
# low elk nah

I think you just hate the fact slayer is kind of rng procs

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Which is fair imo

teal fossil
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But they can fix execute by tuning mortal strike up a bit more

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Yeah it’s random and a bit too passive

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That’s valid

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But i don’t get slow/sluggish

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Especially since we currently play iftk on st too

low elk
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the amount of times you have to press slam and cleave in st makes it feel sluggish. the fact that the talents that allow you to use MS and overpower more are simming less is what bothers me

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spec just flows better with them

teal fossil
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Eb was never good

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And op was frankly overpowered in sl/df

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20% of your damage coming from a free filler

radiant gale
teal fossil
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And Battlelord was hard carried by the fact that it also gave op damage

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If this spec was topping the meters you won’t be here saying this

balmy kindle
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True

teal fossil
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It was like this in shadowlands

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9.0 spec was bad

balmy kindle
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Yeah op and burrs doing alot of dmg

teal fossil
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“Poorly designed fundamental problem”

balmy kindle
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Fairy warrior deadge

teal fossil
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9.1 arms top tier

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0 changes outside of numbers tuning

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“This spec plays fluid and well”

teal fossil
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Ww on st was actually dumb

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Like I don’t get how you think pressing tc and ww on st is any better than pressing slam

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At least slam does good damage

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Tc and ww is pressed to dump rage

low elk
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idk why youre trying to change my mind on this with logic. its a subjective matter of feel. i didnt play SL but i played arms in DF and BFA and Legion and it never felt worse to me than it does in TWW

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if you enjoy it, all the power to you

teal fossil
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Im not saying I enjoy it

low elk
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bruh

balmy kindle
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Wasn't BFA arms having the node crushing assault or smth where you had to hit slam

boreal quartz
teal fossil
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I’m saying it’s not valid to say tww is significantly worse when it’s basically the same

boreal quartz
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Since your ms just hit so fucking hard

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Besides you were just the top st spec in keys ratge

teal fossil
balmy kindle
teal fossil
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Also remember the eb bug

boreal quartz
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S2 peak

balmy kindle
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S1 arms was mid as f

teal fossil
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“Brb lemme switch out of wb”

balmy kindle
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Like didn't enjoy fairy warrior and quit after aotc

teal fossil
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Because wb was bugged with eb

low elk
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im sure arms will get better naturally with ilvls and crit going up

boreal quartz
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2>3>4>1=pp

thick kelp
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dont say it

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dont say the S word

little fossil
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So !!!! Thinking to return to wow after Shadowlands.... Is Arms still better?

boreal quartz
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Than what

teal fossil
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Better than what

boreal quartz
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Enha? No

teal fossil
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Prot?

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Yes

little fossil
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than fury

quaint otter
thick kelp
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its liek

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50/50

boreal quartz
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Depends on vibes

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Play the one you enjoy

low elk
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even blizzard know arms is bad with the new BFA meta achievement called "A Farewell to Arms"

thick kelp
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mop demo moment

low elk
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which literally rewards a trash mount

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blizz saying arms is trash

tacit crystal
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if its trash surely we get a buff

balmy kindle
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copium rework inc

quaint otter
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No

boreal quartz
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Me when achievements are ingame

low elk
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no they like it being trash. arms is blizz's basic bish bland spec that new players are meant to graduate from to something more interesting

thick kelp
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no thats fury

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you are describing

quaint otter
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no thats bm

low elk
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haha

teal fossil
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Fury has actual graduation path

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Enhancement outlaw dh

quaint otter
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fdk

teal fossil
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Ye

teal fossil
quaint otter
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blue fury
yellow fury
purple fury
red fury

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can we count ww

balmy kindle
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Also has high limits if pilot is good

quaint otter
balmy kindle
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Only times iirc BM is bad when their numbers are utterly nuked

quaint otter
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also its simple as door

teal fossil
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The s word has been uttered

little fossil
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Back in the day Warrior was the shit... Now they just recruit them to say we support diversity

quaint otter
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wat

teal fossil
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Back when

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10 years ago?

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When most of the ppl here are in high school?

boreal quartz
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20

thick kelp
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20 years ago

little fossil
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now that you mention it yea... i feel old

teal fossil
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When people still had landlines

little fossil
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wat? i thought only 30++ only play wow

quaint otter
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I have a lot of 20+ guildies

sly venture
boreal quartz
sly venture
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haha

thick kelp
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damn

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called out

balmy kindle
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Uncles playing from BC wotlk era

little fossil
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there are not new players in wow after like what.... Draenor guys cmon

boreal quartz
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@thick kelpwait I need to swap cat

thick kelp
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idk I started in Slands

thick kelp
balmy kindle
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I mean people come and go but doesn't change the fact it's a long time okayge

sly venture
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I started in SL, but still old and experienced from other wow killers

boreal quartz
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i started in SL

tacit crystal
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me too

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🙂

boreal quartz
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peepo worst expac ive ever playex

tacit crystal
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only played 1 month though

thick kelp
boreal quartz
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actualy df migthve stank more

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idk

tacit crystal
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what ar eyou guys voting for

thick kelp
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President of USA

sly venture
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Kamala Trump

tacit crystal
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i can vote

thick kelp
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everyone can vote

tacit crystal
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who do you want me to vote for

sly venture
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I vote for Body 2

little fossil
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A nice name for Prot warr btw ''Trumpswall''

sly venture
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Don't like Body 1

boreal quartz
quasi torrent
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voting for merkel

thick kelp
quasi torrent
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cause döner 3€

boreal quartz
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JAAAA MEINE KANZLERIN RAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

thick kelp
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I love döners

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Might get one today too

thick kelp
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and call it bulkszn

boreal quartz
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where is my gif huh

boreal quartz
boreal quartz
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it this internet dying during wow download moment

thick kelp
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happens to the best of us

boreal quartz
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fibre internet btw

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cant load gifs

quasi torrent
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i can NOT play any video on discord

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images sometimes take ages to load

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gifs dont play

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2024

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i can watch several 4k streams at the same time

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👍

boreal quartz
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das Internet ist für uns alle Neuland

halcyon valve
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So true bestie

boreal quartz
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@thick kelp i spent almost 3k tender

inland drift
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anything good this month?

boreal quartz
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lots ye

tacit crystal
boreal quartz
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and ALL class weps/sets returned

balmy kindle
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Void elf worth swapping to ? peepostudy

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5% dmg

steep osprey
balmy kindle
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Work overtime, buy tenders 😉( pls don't do it )

steep osprey
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Yo did u guys see the racial changes?

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and they didn't even update undead

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the literal worst racials

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gg

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at least we get 500 additional tenders this month

quasi torrent
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tendussies

steep osprey
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gimme the tendussy

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I NEED EM

balmy kindle
boreal quartz
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i want the other coloration man

steep osprey
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Nice tabard

gaunt field
quasi torrent
boreal quartz
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i had 4k or so

steep osprey
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wrong image

lethal stream
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what i must do ex time?

boreal quartz
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huh

steep osprey
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what

thick kelp
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how to sex on arms

tacit crystal
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find 2nd arms player

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have intercourse

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👍

lethal stream
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ex phase 34 %

steep osprey
tacit crystal
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phil

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help me look drippy

boreal quartz
boreal quartz
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aquire elite set

tacit crystal
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uh

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i cba pvping past 1600

boreal quartz
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or be this thing

thick kelp
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so pretty

steep osprey
tacit crystal
thick kelp
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do

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solo shuffle

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wtf is that

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sissy shit

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solo rbg

tacit crystal
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yeah bro

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want me to wait 50 minute queues

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you have cancer

thick kelp
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at 0 mmr

tacit crystal
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actualyl

thick kelp
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you have 1min q

tacit crystal
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i copy mags right

thick kelp
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ye

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Play demo till enemy realizes they can just walk thru you to dodge it

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it gets funny when ppl dont expect damage

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They will pop wall on your avatar

tacit crystal
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was watching pika play colo

thick kelp
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so your next demolish + cs

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cracks their skull

tacit crystal
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was so stupid

boreal quartz
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@thick kelpbtw ye

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2v2?

tacit crystal
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he started to realize how shit that global is

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xd

thick kelp
lethal stream
thick kelp
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I waited all evening

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ended up going 4/8m instead

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on my shaman

lethal stream
thick kelp
boreal quartz
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you start ur exe rotation once its usable

thick kelp
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CTRL + F

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"best arms warrior execute rotation"

tacit crystal
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which do you think is worth more?

thick kelp
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do u have

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30% veersa

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without that pvp piece

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wait no its fucking

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over 10 ilvls for u

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in pvp

tacit crystal
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i dont ahve a fucking cc trinket

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x

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d

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its gone

brazen jolt
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item restore

tacit crystal
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i cant wait to pull up to a shuffle with 15% vers

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@thick kelp you lied

tight igloo
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warrior getting more buffs in 11.0.7 PTR?

vernal crypt
wanton sierra
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ive heard about some racial tunnin, dwarven still bis

wanton sierra
atomic mountain
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jojo. i tryed colo inm m+ now. is it niormal to lose like 200k allround dmg cause i am not to familiar or does it jsut say i am shit XD

steep osprey
tacit crystal
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CLAPPA

rugged locust
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am i getting this right? you only need 1 nascent crest to craft a 2h?

tacit crystal
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correct

rugged locust
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craft 2h seems pretty cheap compared with 1h then

tacit crystal
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idk prices

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crafted a long time ago

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but prob half cost

steep osprey
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How's colossus for HC Court @thick kelp

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and what build should I be using

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sorry for tag, hope that's fine lol

dull siren
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@thick kelp

steep osprey
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HOLY

dull siren
scarlet field
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I'm excited to get back into arms again, and been watching critcake. He seems to play a build with ravager and no sks. Are there any more In depth guides to look at for rotation help or info about it ?

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It seems pretty simple, cleave your balls off

modest carbon
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man, I hate playing with rogues. because they start whining about chain pulling "pls let me restealth every pack pls"

scarlet field
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But most guides are sks/storm

steep osprey
modest carbon
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meanwhile I watch my demo stacks tick down

dull siren
dull siren
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SKS is just a filler, It will most likely be included within guides but you just ignore it as a step if you don't have it talented

scarlet field
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Maybe my browser is messing up, I tried toggling it off on wowhead

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I'll check again thanks. You still have a discord tmy ? I used to follow that forever for all things arms

thick kelp
steep osprey
thick kelp
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Yeah play tmys page

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if you want to use less brain swap to troar and use 45s roar

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if you want touse even less brain you can play slarms

steep osprey
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i wanna DEMOLISH

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wtf

fresh spire
remote ledge
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Hi, what would you recommend for slayer

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Haven't played for a while

thick kelp
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For whwat

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content

thick kelp
remote ledge
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M+ but lower keys, below 12

thick kelp
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Unethical build

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CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYmZmZMjZmFLLLjZAAAAYw0wMDLzYGYsMmZGMzwADzwAAAAAAAgZMLjxAsFYssNwCYAzwEyAsB

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ethical build

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CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAzMzMjZMmFLLLzMDAAAADmGmZYZGzAjlxMzgZGGYYGGAAAAAAA8AjZZmZGgtAjltBWADYGmQGgN

tacit crystal
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i can already tell it has dn

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dn uscks balls

thick kelp
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i didnt check the imports

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I trust @dull siren has kept them updated on warbreaker

tacit crystal
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both have dn

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wahle

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the shuffle journey

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is nto going well

thick kelp
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sucks to suck idk

remote ledge
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Ty wahle ill check tonight, what u mean by unethical. I can't see what they have that is

tacit crystal
thick kelp
tacit crystal
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DN

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GRRRR

thick kelp
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Ethical build has more ST nodes

tacit crystal
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🙂

remote ledge
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Thanks boss

wanton sierra
# dull siren

is this the st colo raid build? i only got slayer st build, i wanna try out colo after buffs

finite mantle
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shmilken court

cloud gyro
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guys i know i crafted the binding ring on accident

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but its actually good

wanton sierra
atomic mountain
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colo build in mists 8. is this okayish?

glacial moat
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For an 8 I'd say yea that's pretty good.

thick kelp
wanton sierra
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no battlelord or eb?

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is it juggernougt really big?

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ty tho

thick kelp
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Yep

formal kestrel
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I have nothing more to add besides colossus arms slapps holy

glacial moat
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Dopamine from demo crits keks keks keks

remote ledge
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Then demo doesn't crit

glacial moat
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Doing col on court and your demo doesn't crit on the damage amp so you tank your parse.

quick vale
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sounds like you need more crit

icy mulch
# thick kelp I love döners

Donairs, nothing better than a Halifax style donair down on pizza corner. So many dumb drunks and silliness to watch while you enjoy your greasy fat pill.

silent flame
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Are there any good weak aura sets n such for arms ?

icy mulch
wheat lagoon
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Arms is so back, 10 stone vault

olive nest
slow saddle
flat willow
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shamn is doing a third of the damage it should be doing

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maybe they are 580 ilvl?

balmy kindle
wheat lagoon
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It was a flavor player

lofty patrol
devout pewter
# thick kelp I love döners

But only the correct ones. Not the Drehspieß shit with more minced meat than anything else. Tastes like shit.

wanton sierra
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hey i might test slayer man, ive seen some huge slayers overalls

devout pewter
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You're in for some fun then, welcome

pearl nymph
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what do arms need to be more tankier in keys? since we are paper compared to fury. what could blizzard fix for arms if we could dream big ?

wheat lagoon
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Rogues have feint, we should have something similar

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Have it cost rage

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And CDR through rage spending

fresh spire
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If anything ignore pain should be a cooldown no rage cost instead.

astral yarrow
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make it 30 sec or some shit

wheat lagoon
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With a significant health % absorb shield

potent fractal
remote ledge
wheat lagoon
scarlet field
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any tips on arms single target in M+ ? im doing garbage dps. charge/rend/roar/ava+wbreaker/MS/demolish/ms. and then im into juggling OP/MS and sometimes cleaving when i have nothing else to press
does anything there seems super far off?
doing like 600k on target dummy

remote ledge
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How much ilvl do you have

scarlet field
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610

remote ledge
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Gear up

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You're comparing yourself to 625-630 (minimum) peopke

wheat lagoon
scarlet field
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ok ty

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is it ok to cleave in ST if i have nothing else to press?

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or should i actually use slam

thick kelp
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Slaam

icy mulch
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Next time I go home to visit the family I'll have to partake.

scarlet field
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am i blind or as arms do we have like, 0 defensives besides die by the sword?

jagged goblet
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die by the sword, impending victory, spell reflect

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for group you have commanding shout

scarlet field
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jeez

jagged goblet
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you can also spec into ignore pain

scarlet field
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ok gotta get used to that 🙂

remote ledge
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Btw walhe haven't checked the builds you linked me yet, but do they have skullsplitter?

remote ledge
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🙏

stuck moat
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Question in aoe should I just wait for cleave to be up while I got the Overpower buff or is it fine to hit mortal strike? I mostly just play prot so don't know much about arms

plucky mortar
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any good ST builds where i dont have to subject myself to SKS?

zinc rapids
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I really like how much my dmg spikes when I use demolish

sharp wyvern
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Is colossus on M court bait ?

latent arrow
jagged goblet
zinc rapids
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Should I use cleave in single target if I have 3 stacks of collateral damage, or should I ignore it?

wheat lagoon
cerulean cipher
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Any advice on dpsing the last boss in MoTS? It could be a tanking issue but on these +13 ish keys the puddles are unforgiving, especially when hidden during the shield phase explosions. I find if I misstep for 1 second I’m a goner.

thick kelp
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but it requires the most effort out of all 4 hero specs to play

visual fern
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Yah I'd still recc thane fury / slayer arms for court

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If you dont want to be

visual fern
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^ thane / slayer

lofty patrol
eager sigil
cerulean cipher
hearty bluff
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yo, do sims not take the meta gems crit thing into account? my sims doesnt want me to have one of each color for some reason

glacial moat
visual fern
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You need big crit for demolish refund for demolish to properly align

Send everything at the 16-18s mark and then on cd basically

The hard part for me was figuring out where to send ravager early to maximize my chance of having demolish + amp overlap

modest carbon
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that feel when you don't get accepted to any +12 even with all 11s timed, 5/8 ++, and a 0,1% title

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feels bad

glacial moat
thick kelp
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the 2nd one shows up after you tick the first one

modest carbon
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it's usually because it's a DPS loss over just using the gems you want, it's really not that good

hearty bluff
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Ahh, ty

thick kelp
slow saddle
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My demo sucks at like 28

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Playing that is

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I nedd big crit neck and i cannot lie

thick kelp
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flask of tempered aggression

slow saddle
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Even the name makes me sad

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I want untempered agression!!!

icy mulch
cyan sage
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Does anyone have a WA for when ravager will send MS?

boreal quartz
#

courtesy of TMY

cyan sage
wary raft
#

howcome new execute doesnt swing horizontally like it used to with sweeping strikes D:

boreal quartz
#

bugged

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nothing sweeps

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visually

agile fossil
#

is arms better now for m+ then?

proud heath
#

When playing Colossus in M+ should i just use demolish off cd?

boreal quartz
#

off cd ideally with wb

#

like if ur wb is in 5 and ur demo is ready

#

u obv farm ur wb

proud heath
#

alright ty

remote ledge
#

dreadnaught did 2.3% of my overall, wouldnt soa just be better ?

thick kelp
#

Possibly

remote ledge
#

i tried your ethical build, did very good on boss, but my aoe was trash

thick kelp
#

snipe executes more

#

to stack jugg

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and keep sweeping executes + eps

#

the ethical one is supposed to play like the Jugg build from DF s3

potent fractal
boreal quartz
#

warbreaker

potent fractal
#

Oh duh lol

remote ledge
#

EPS ?

#

executioners precision ?

boreal quartz
#

yes

thick kelp
#

thanks phil

remote ledge
#

yes i wasn't sniping execute at all

boreal quartz
#

also remember u still cleave 4 reap the storm

remote ledge
#

and with unethical build, anything special ? still sniping exec and using everything on cd

boreal quartz
#

i mean

#

if ur just goin for aoe

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u just cleave>op>ms (ideally dont eat mp stacks for cleave)

remote ledge
#

i guess i was playing like this with jugg, which now thinking about it doesnt make sense

thick kelp
#

MDI SPEC

#

Fury mains malding

astral talon
#

demolish or?

reef cloak
#

is the ring from queen BiS? most people use other rings

minor gust
drifting lily
#

@astral talon

thick kelp
#

Colossus ofcs

boreal quartz
#

me when i use unobtainable tmog

thick kelp
#

He isnt called Chadding for no reason

boreal quartz
#

love me some magni icc set

astral talon
#

exe talents

#

hmm

drifting lily
#

0 armor boss crank

astral talon
#

cant see his items 😦

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oh nvm

#

im blind lol

zinc wolf
thick kelp
#

Blame the team not the spec chatting

astral talon
#

ok but dps where O_O

zinc wolf
#

Both teams had similiar dps tbh

finite mantle
#

they lost on the little staircase 10 seconds in

dull siren
boreal quartz
#

@dull sirennext time use a diff 2h

#

maybe frostmourne

dull siren
drifting lily
#

sent the blob boss home gj sir @dull siren

thick kelp
boreal quartz
#

30% ms buff pls

vague nova
#

So is there a bug that cancels bladestorm if you kick or use storm bolt

#

Or am I tripping if I use one too fast into it, it just stops

placid pecan
#

did they fix the collosus node for ignore pain so that it actually gives 20% more shield, bc it STILL doesnt show in the tooltip

vague nova
austere hamlet
vague nova
#

No stop channel or cast line

drifting lily
#

@austere hamlet it was on warcraft channel i have it up still i can dm u what u need

austere hamlet
wanton ravine
#

Im 621 ilvl atm, is it normal for us to have less than 6 mil health?

full furnace
#

yup

devout pewter
#

That I will in my life see a warrior dps in an MDI ... I can't believe it

gaunt owl
#

he got so scared to answer this

fickle pivot
#

Did our talents change this patch for M+ and raiding?
Is slayer still the go to?

regal wharf
devout pewter
#

Play what you like most, my sim they were very close, but Colossus is best

regal wharf
#

i like slayer cause execute

gaunt owl
#

we arent back

devout pewter
#

we were never gone

gaunt owl
#

Tmy is just flexing

devout pewter
#

he's the reason we'll get nerfed again

#

blizz just saw that and thought "where did we go wrong there?"

gaunt owl
#

worst part is

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as long as soft and hardcap exists

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the meta will still run rampant

#

they can try everything for mdi and stuff

dull siren
#

yap yap yap

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Gonna play it tomorrow again

gaunt owl
#

but its just hindering some class

dull siren
#

Didn't expect to win match 1 eitherway, We raid 13:00-17:00 weekends and practice max like 4hours 4days per week

gaunt owl
#

you cant compete against people with no life anyway

devout pewter
#

went pretty well tho in my non important opinion

gaunt owl
#

they get so much hours into the game

dull siren
#

we were fast

#

tbh stonevault was a bit of "go a bit smaller" in some area's

#

We fucked 1 thing in City that lost us a bit of time

frosty warren
#

why didn't I know colossus arms was so much fun

#

jfc this is awesome

devout pewter
#

And thanks to Tmy we're likely have less worse time finding groups too!

gaunt owl
#

fun is subjective

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if Tmy dont win mdi

#

the brainrot meta will not change

devout pewter
#

true

karmic matrix
#

where do we find the full talent tree? Haven't been watching MDIs a lot prior

devout pewter
#

wowhead should be fine, or tmy can just post his trees 😛

#

I'd take his destro trees too 😄

full furnace
#

send help

devout pewter
#

oof, that hurts

#

mdi brainrot already setting in?

slow saddle
eager sigil
#

dont think i did a single dps warrior key

#

just q into 8x mists

full furnace
#

found a group, believe in your dreams kids

chrome bramble
#

Hey peeps maybe a silly question but what’s the better weapon enchant for arms? Depths or Authority? .. authority sounds better but wow head says depth

#

Err radiant warriorbrain

devout pewter
#

but I've seen a lot of depths

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and even tho radiant sims a bit better for me i'll probably grab depths too lmao

chrome bramble
#

I’m wondering if cleave gives it a chance to apply for all

stuck moat
#

Is there a solid build without cleave or is cleave a must for dungs to do any real damage

crisp crane
#

hey is there a aoe opener for colossus arms ? (cant see it in the wowhead guide)
wanted to know where / when to SS and Demolish when spamming cleave hmh

silk spade
#

SS makes FOB hit another target

astral talon
#

Go in, clap, troar, avatar warbreaker, ss, mortals and cleaves, demolish at 10 stacks

#

You can cleave either when you open, to get stacks faster, or closer to the end of sweeping so you do big buffed cleave from collateral damage

crisp crane
#

so delay demolish... i guess it will be reach 10 stacks before SS ends ?

astral talon
#

You can also try to get few stacks of SS first before big rotation, but I personally don't

astral talon
#

And IF you throw ravager at the start

#

You will get it in like 3-4 globals

crisp crane
astral talon
#

They are for many people, and for some dungeons

untold talon
#

Hello guys ! I just join the Discord and i have a question i just made a +13 dawn ans on the 2nd boss i died 3 times in row even on CD Def, is it me or our CD Def are just not enough for higher key ?

silk spade
astral talon
#

I play both eb and bl

astral talon
#

You should never be close to death on that boss

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You have defensives for everything the boss does

crisp crane
astral talon
#

Assuming healer is not an ape, you should stay alive with dstance, Iv, and reflect

quaint otter
#

^^

astral talon
#

Dbts for that one bad overlap with aoe dmg and orb exploding

untold talon
#

I didnt have this feeling on +12 or +11 its just me the thx for the reply !

crisp crane
astral talon
#

You still need a lot of help from healer of course

astral talon
#

Rashanan useless, other bosses and rest of the dung you do a lot of dmg from eb and battlelord

crisp crane
astral talon
#

Thsts one global not spent on execute

crisp crane
untold talon
#

And even with the up we agree that its still difficult to find a Group in + 12 or its just my bad luck ?

astral talon
#

Done

#

I can't rly talk cuz im 634 ilvl

stuck moat
astral talon
#

And pugs get a hard on when they see it lol

#

Warr actually brings decent amount of things now

#

Decent dmg

#

Rally

#

Reflect is huge sometimes

#

Very good aoe stun

stuck moat
#

Prot warrior why bring a dps warrior over say a shaman

astral talon
#

Cuz it's a pug and you're not in the great push finals

#

Most pugs actually don't gatekeep that hard

stuck moat
#

That doesn't matter pugs treat pug keys like the end all be all

astral talon
#

All about score and ilvl

stuck moat
#

What pugs you seeing?

#

Pugs are meta hungry af XD

crisp crane
crisp crane
devout pewter
#

Good thing i personally dont care for anything over 10s. I neither have the time to practice for it nor do I want to spend more time on tje game when I can do other stuff.

And in that regard, I'm fine finding groups.

crisp crane
stuck moat
tiny sable
#

yo lads, what spec are we sending in keys atm, archon says slayer but i thought colossus was the move

devout pewter
#

Do what you Like more

devout pewter
#

Both are fine

tiny sable
#

and im baffled we dont run warbreaker, crazy world were living in

#

truly a society

stuck moat
#

Dps warriors "bring stuff" just stuff no one really cares about more so if u can get a good prot tank. I wish Blizzard made dps wars more valuable to a dung group

devout pewter
astral talon
astral talon
#

Like soaking tentacles in grim batol last boss

dull siren
#

but you'll also play warbreaker if you are doing giga pulls

#

if ur not doin giga pulls you play CS

stuck moat
astral talon
#

Ehhh, want a reason to bring any dps?

#

Any at all

#

Damage

#

Noone gives a fuck about your utility, damage matters

stuck moat
#

. . .

astral talon
#

You'll never have any other reason to bring any dps

dull siren
devout pewter
#

Tmy! okayge

Any chance we get to see your build?
(Also the destro build pls 😄 )

astral talon
#

Everything else is small shit

dull siren
#

I have a few but it's just minor changes

#

This was city

astral talon
#

Unless you really need shroud

radiant garden
#

hey guys at which % we get diminishing with secondary stats ?

#

30 or 35 ?

devout pewter
#

Thank you! Just a bit of an insight

quaint otter
dull siren
quaint otter
#

20k for vers

stuck moat
radiant garden
#

so having 35% haste is not worth ?

quaint otter
dull siren
#

@devout pewter

#

and this was warlock

quaint otter
#

Dr doesht matter if it sims better

dull siren
#

Idk I just copied Wexi talents on Warlock

#

I've played warlock for like less then 24hours

quaint otter
#

How warlock feels now?

astral talon
#

Except for damage?

grave delta
#

You kidding right

stuck moat
#

I mean one has a lust and one has a rez off the top of my head

astral talon
#

As do many other specs, you can have resto healer

tardy crag
#

Ranged kicks

dull siren
# astral talon What does enh bring, or frost dk

DK :
Grip, Blind, Not a hardlocked Melee Kick, AMS

Enh :
Best buff currently, Cap totem, Giga priority damage, Ranged Kick as Melee.

Warrior :
Cleave, Melee Kick, Shockwave that's the worst stun in the game but Colossus makes it a knockup so a bit better.

astral talon
#

Ams so almost the same as reflect, okay

dull siren
#

There's even more but I don't have time to spend on some delulu guy making random statements that make 0 sense

crisp crane
#

@astral talon i still think we need plenty utility buffing for warr peepologs
-> bitter immunity: 3min is way to long for pve. compared to cleansing totem, cloak, .. or regular dispells.. so should be 2min or added group value for 5man pve content
-> spell reflect: i still feel to much punishment for group interrupts. or could also add a " 1 nearly party member gets 20% DR".. (similar tot the dk ams)
-> berserker shout: is nice this time (surely rar use-case). but still needs a talent point - should be at least party wide or 30yards (similar to totem)
-> rallying cry: .. needs 5man content scaling ... as plenty other spells have in the game

dull siren
#

AMS is 10 times better then reflect

quaint otter
dull siren
stuck moat
astral talon
dull siren
astral talon
dull siren
silk spade
quaint otter
dull siren
crisp crane
boreal quartz
#

Rally is fine

astral talon
#

Wasn't rly nerfed like 3 times by now?

dull siren
# crisp crane <@291636646225379328> i still think we need plenty utility buffing for warr <:p...

Bitter Immunity can be removed overall just a piss spell, We don't really need any more self healing with Second Wind + Impending Victory back in the game and It also doesn't make any sense of a "Warrior" to be able to dispell if you were to live up to class idenity within the game.

Spelll Reflect is never gonna change, Likely that they could've done the change to intervene where it would take a spell but it would be to strong in PvP to just Intervene > Spell Reflect CC.

Berserker Shout is okay, But very niche

Rally is already good for raiding, Can't ask for our raid cooldown to be better in M+

crisp crane
tardy crag
#

Warrior dispel should inflict self dmg

fresh sierra
#

warriors need lust

tardy crag
#

Just cut the messed up peice off

boreal quartz
#

What youd want is to just be tuned like enha

sacred zodiac
crisp crane
fresh sierra
#

no b rez no lust meh dps

astral talon
#

No lust

fresh sierra
#

warriors need something

dull siren
#

Only thing I would want for warriors is + 1 second on Shockwave as well as If you'd want more utility.
Warrior Fear should be uncapped.

#

That's all the spec needs, It's fine.
It doesn't need more

crisp crane
full furnace
#

a 5% aura buff for good measure

astral talon
#

Better access to fear would be cool

dull siren
#

It's like #fury wanting Fury Warriors to be in perma CD's

#

🆔

tacit crystal
#

lets talk about warrior fear having a horrible range

dull siren
tacit crystal
#

i cant fucking snipe people across the world with my fear

boreal quartz
tacit crystal
#

no

astral talon
#

I guess aoe silence like belf racial was before would be cool

tacit crystal
#

how am i supposed to fear the dev spamming disintegrate for 30 seconds

astral talon
#

And would give us 2nd reliable cc, into casters at least

full furnace
#

add a 10% more endurance to the 10 % more armor talent

tacit crystal
#

freak spamming hover and i cant melee him

quaint otter
#

Gut gud

boreal quartz
#

Play Script

dull siren
#

Also selfhealing is beyond stupid right now

#

I think I have some screenshot with a

#

4mil fueled by violence

#

heal

tacit crystal
astral talon
#

More violence = more fuel

quaint otter
astral talon
#

We need more violence

#

Cs instantly giving 10 stacks of colossal might when?

dull siren
#

@boreal quartz rate schedule tomorrow

#

13-17 raid > MDI

astral talon
#

You gotta win for warrs to get instant invites to any key till the end of season, MDI pass for the spec Pepexecute

quaint otter
tacit crystal
dull siren
#

You just drop the Frost DK and play warrior and make up the missing utility factor with Prot Paladin / DH

#

We just played a bad comp in City due to that's what we used in time trials

tacit crystal
#

so prot/dh priest enh war aug?

#

or what is 3rd dps

dull siren
#

DH / Prot
Druid / Priest
Warrior
Rogue
Enha

#

We aren't playing any priest likely

tacit crystal
dull siren
#

Druid buff is just good

tacit crystal
#

was close

#

what about you playing arms vs fury in the comp/key

dull siren
#

Fury isn't good

tacit crystal
#

because i assume your rogue is sin or outlaw so he either does giga prio or is a 2nd fury

#

so we play sin arms

dull siren
#

Fury is awful for MDI / Probably high keys down the road.

Arms, Colossus just has really good consistent damage and isn't cooldown dependant.
You can do damage every 30sec

#

Fury is really good for Raid

#

Arms just is uncapped with Cleave, Has better cooldowns for most of it

#

Arms slayer is also fine, But colossus is just more tanky

nova marsh
tacit crystal
#

will you be playing one against many or art

#

it is but it doesnt matter

dull siren
#

You have CDs on Fury then ur dry

tacit crystal
#

being hard capped at 5 outside of cds is worse than soft at 5 outside

dull siren
tacit crystal
#

do you not think it would be worth if your rogue is playing sin

#

or do you just go go go fast fast fast

dull siren
#

Go go

#

Rogue hits prio target as well as I focus prio target but have really good DPS consistently

tacit crystal
#

ig if you were going higher keys it would have higher value

dull siren
#

I don't know what the MDI casters said but there's a huge boss DPS gain for Colossus overall and I don't do the same as I do as a Destro Warlock for example

tacit crystal
#

mdi is capped at 10-12?

dull siren
#

they want to keep the seasonal affix within and MDI isn't about pushing

#

it's about going fast

tacit crystal
#

yeah

#

so cleave just cranks

nova marsh
#

When was warrior in mdi last?

dull siren
#

xddd

#

but that was just a 4 fun thing

tacit crystal
#

prot in s1 df?

dull siren
#

now it's actually playable and people are considering to play it

hexed saddle
tacit crystal
#

XD

nova marsh
#

Okay should clarify

hexed saddle
#

was the first mdi

#

iirc

#

and it was arms

#

bc of ToS

tacit crystal
#

how do i convince my puhs group to move me from aug to arms

#

🙂

dull siren
#

Fury is a cool raid spec

#

should stay in raid

tacit crystal
#

the more i play aug the more cosmetic i feel other than spamming rescue

strange perch
#

but atm performs better on m+ right?

#

than arms

tacit crystal
#

its just played more

dull siren
pulsar hatch
strange perch
#

i usually play arms bcs i think its more fun than fury

dull siren
#

Fury doesn't preform better, It's just played more by some One tricks.

tacit crystal
#

tmy how does it feel to play with and without aug

#

ive only been the aug player

strange perch
#

but though fury was better atm for m+

dull siren
#

might be better now with cleave consistent dmg

#

If Fury was better for M+ I would play it in MDI, But it has the same issues it would have in high keys.
You pump and dump damage.
There is 0 consistency you fall of hard meanwhile Arms excels

tacit crystal
#

like i swear i just do rotation and spam rescue on one of 2 shamans

dull siren
#

As well as Fury just tickles bosses

#

compared to arms

tacit crystal
#

execute

#

🙂

#

actual global on arms

tardy crag
tacit crystal
#

anda me as well

#

dw

#

at least me playing aug is a learning experience

#

easily being a better player the more i play it and with my group

crisp crane
#

how is slam vs cleave on 2 target ?

#

m+

tacit crystal
#

slam is fake

#

only st

full furnace
#

everytime i have to press slam, i die a little inside

crisp crane
tacit crystal
#

@dull siren are you playing colo eb?

bronze elbow
#

colossus feels like it pumps in keys to me

devout pewter
#

Not in that city run gio

bronze elbow
#

as long as i don't fight a st boss

dull siren
tacit crystal
#

show sauce

dull siren
#

I had someone link me a vod

#

here @tacit crystal

#

that's the city run the only run so far

#

I linked talents earlier when @devout pewter asked

bronze elbow
#

are you playing battlelord? i do like no st damage

#

but monster cleave

bronze elbow
#

sad day tho less demolishes without battlelord 😦

hexed saddle
dull siren
#

The only thing you change for high keys likely is Dreadnaught > SoA

summer quartz
#

can a take slam off my bar if I'm running colossus?

scarlet field
#

No

summer quartz
#

damn.

tacit crystal
#

maybe im just doing rotation wrong and barely press op

shadow ibex
#

I miss 30 rage abilities but idk if I could go back to rend and tclap being 30

#

20 rage tclap is the bees knees

#

I'll take a 30 rage slam that does damage tho peepoBlush

teal fossil
#

The most barbaric of the trainings

shadow ibex
#

Dat me

scarlet field
shadow ibex
dull siren
#

Also, I think my rogue logged our MDI run

#

so can probs post that tomrw

#

@tacit crystal @devout pewter

tacit crystal
#

❤️

twilit crater
#

Yo @dull siren where did you get the blue ICC set from? 😮 or is it not avaiable in game

dull siren
#

It's just within the game files and is a set on Tourny realms

#

so I use it

tacit crystal
dull siren
#

or 14's