arms

[nimble yoke]

wheres the take there lol

[dull siren]

Are you counting in all factors or that you just have gear that treats Fury better?

[vital rune]

Did they adjust m+ timers?

[fossil quiver]

yes but how much?

[nimble yoke]

maybe i do have gear that treats fury better idk, i think i'm lacking a lot of crit

even still im sad about it lol

still not a take

[candid pecan]

yes, I believe they have added 90 seconds to each dungeon (if you do a key above 7)

[nimble yoke]

might see how the dmg numbers look with a droptimizer and maybe some better stats will do me some good

[vital rune]

That explains the random timed 10 NW I have

Must be retroactive

[nimble yoke]

oh that's interesting

[vital rune]

Originally missed by 20 secs

[nimble yoke]

didn't think they would do that

[candid pecan]

yes it is

[vital rune]

My buddy had one too. Didn’t get the portal still

[nimble yoke]

oh so it timed the 10 key after the change but no portal?

[shadow ibex]

They can do that but can't balance hero spec talents different for arms/fury

What the fuck

[candid pecan]

just go again I guess

[nimble yoke]

def a shame tho lol

[sharp wyvern]

wtb patchnotes that actually are accurate

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hHSgzQxAzUmhdd726yns4g

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jeodMZLB4kD2Ki2cCngGc6

@nimble yoke Very gear dependant also so for stats you can also just play different arms talents for ST now

[nimble yoke]

tbf im talking ab aoe build lol

i almost never do raid

fury already does more aoe and just loses 0 for going aoe build while arms feels like it loses a lot more

[dull siren]

If you are simming for raw aoe numbers, You'll likely never live up to them as it's very situational.
Fury isn't good for anything but burst aoe and won't outpreform Arms after the buffs.

Mostly also why people if they end up doing it are playing Arms in MDI instead of Fury.

[fossil quiver]

you guys think arms is more difficul to play in m+ comapred to thane fury?

[sharp wyvern]

ye

[dull siren]

Colossus arms is easy

[wanton sierra]

mists 11

[fossil quiver]

easier than thane?

[nimble yoke]

yea that's definitely fair man. i'm gonna give arms another try in m+ and see how it feels after the buffs tmrw

[dull siren]

y

[fossil quiver]

really?

[sharp wyvern]

the fact you have more buttons alone makes it more difficult no ?

[fossil quiver]

without Skull yes

[shadow ibex]

You press cleave

[nimble yoke]

arms just presses shit on cd no?

[dull siren]

You press cleave

and smile

[nimble yoke]

esp if that shit is cleave

lol

[rich ridge]

Damn arms the way now?

[shadow ibex]

Cleave>MS>SkS>OP

[reef glade]

dam bruh arms sims 1.52 now

oh nah

[shadow ibex]

All you have to do

[civic isle]

Taking BL and EB here Krog?

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eXkt7Cp2MDaJuo6i1qmAAF can get this higher just need more crit

[wanton sierra]

yes

[dull siren]

also plays 0 opportunist

[fossil quiver]

no but you gotta have your CS/WB aligned with Demolish, lookout for the thundeblast bleed, + execute phase which is unique

[reef glade]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/66uvz21qD3X3pCo9A1uzPe

is opportunist that diff

or what do that mean

[weary hull]

gyaaat

[civic isle]

Keen to rip it

[shadow ibex]

You need crit for follow thru

[dull siren]

@shadow ibex Also just like the fact Prot Pala is just a 4th DPS in MDI

[civic isle]

Sheeeesh

[shadow ibex]

Lost a queen poison ring to a Aug who already had normal version last night

[weary hull]

@reef glade can u do a gear compare with last boss trinket instead of knife

[shadow ibex]

Man that was a lot of crit

[minor gust]

you got a diff gear set for colossus keys or nah?

[wanton sierra]

fun fast demo blastin! huge hits

[shadow ibex]

Woulda been nice

[dull siren]

yeah

[fossil quiver]

the changes for war are live in NA?

[dull siren]

well not on retail

[crude fulcrum]

does each race have a different animation for demo?

[shadow ibex]

No

[dull siren]

I know @minor gust what gear I want tho, I ran sims for the MDI gearing that I was doing xdd

[quaint bloom]

arms good, fury good, we def getting nerfed next week boys

oooof

[wanton sierra]

shhhheesh!! jesus bro we just got buffed

[minor gust]

I assume just dropping haste for more crit/mast/vers?

[dull siren]

@minor gust KINDA

[reef glade]

this ovinax egg thing needs to get away from my sims man

there is no way its that good

[dull siren]

just dropping the heavy crit ring / vers crit boots nearly

and not having crit / mastery crafted gear

[reef glade]

but also idk if mandate is doing that cause its forcing transmitter to be "trinket 2" and idk if which place each trinkets are in determines when they're used

like if mandate is used on pull and then transmitter with 0 cds

or if that doesnt matter

[shadow ibex]

it's very cringe

When I was trying to sim mark it was sending queen on pull and marking after with no CDs

[wanton sierra]

holy smokes!

[reef glade]

fake mdi gear

[frigid cipher]

It uses trinkets in order. Need transmitter first if you want it to be used with cds

[reef glade]

yea idk if you can like force that in droptimizer tho

[dull siren]

idk @reef glade it's kinda easy to gear

[reef glade]

when you kill more than 4 mythic bosses a week agree

[dull siren]

Just buy it

[reef glade]

perish

[dull siren]

this guy pulls up

[minor gust]

im just tryna figure what rings I wanna craft here tryna juggle slayer arms/fury and col arms lmao

[reef glade]

[wanton sierra]

how about this weap

[minor gust]

get the legion artifact appearance its exactly made for T2

[wanton sierra]

ye but, i know its exaclty but idk, i odly dont think it really matches

[weary hull]

GYYYYYYYAT 🫦

[wanton sierra]

none of the colous of the sword really matches i think

[summer heath]

Ouch guess we got short hand of the stick ?

[minor gust]

huh the one I sent is the exact same color pallet

[uneven yacht]

is the 30% fake buff in sims or is it the 15$

%

[cinder verge]

they caught the 30% and fixed it already

[sharp wyvern]

but was it ever implemented

cause the execute things were there all along

[wanton sierra]

how about the purple? xD

[burnt lake]

thats what i asked and no one knows

[sharp wyvern]

imagine if blizz actually gave us accurate stuff

[sharp wyvern]

this set makes me regret being human

looks good on almost everything else

[shadow ibex]

Being dwarf is rough

[regal wharf]

is there literally anything that makes you want to play the game less than a botched key

because holy shit I just had the worst stonevault ever

15 deaths and we didnt even kill the first boss

[shadow ibex]

Lmao

Idk what that boss even does to kill tanks

[sick gazelle]

it will one shot the tank if the healer doesnt dispell him

[shadow ibex]

Just one second it's ok the next I'm leaping away and kiting while he gets bresed

[regal wharf]

im in such a bad mood rn

[shadow ibex]

that set is so cool but its gonna be everywhere

[mint patio]

Yeah a lot of time healers will immediately dispel the tank, and the buff that it gives will expire before the tank buster hit comes out.

[sick gazelle]

yeah i am guilty of that

i feel like the UI doesnt update properly either

because i had one where the tank buster came out and i never saw the debuff on the ui

[regal wharf]

like

WHY

[regal wharf]

Why do keys have to go a key level down

i feel so deflated

[shadow ibex]

how many times

[astral zephyr]

Y’all seen this?

[shadow ibex]

will this be psoted

no we didnt see it ur the first

[astral zephyr]

Oh my bad

[sharp wyvern]

#updates-midnight

[shadow ibex]

that thing that has a whole news post in this discord

[wanton sierra]

is it true?i live under a rock plz tell me

[sick gazelle]

its one level. just do the lower key and focus on improvement. i doubt you are playing perfectly either.
focus on long term goals. you will do thousands of keys if you continue to play the game. you will fail 15%+

[shadow ibex]

never before seen

[sharp wyvern]

only for fury

[wanton sierra]

awwwww yisssssss

[teal fossil]

it doesnt say only for fury

[sharp wyvern]

archi said so

[teal fossil]

yes

[sharp wyvern]

i trust archi

[teal fossil]

but archi also said MS got 30% buff

and that got reverted

[dull siren]

@reef glade I might have cooked somethin

[teal fossil]

so we dont know what the intent is

[astral zephyr]

I might post it again, just to make sure

[wanton sierra]

shiiiiet xD

[astral zephyr]

😂😂

[sharp wyvern]

we have to go of current standings blizz will never tell us

blizz sends us on goose chases to find out what doesnt work

[regal wharf]

there's me not playing good and there's 12 deaths before the first boss

like there's only so much I can do

[sharp wyvern]

just dont do stonevault

that place is cursed

[regal wharf]

I hope with the buffs this week ill be able to get into keys

[sick gazelle]

it happens

how many interrupts did u have

did the fears go off while pummel was off cd?

[regal wharf]

i dont know but I know I was interrupting a bunch of the arcing voids w pummel and stormbolt

the fears didnt go off either but I think the other people got that

[teal fossil]

hopefully archi is right

[astral zephyr]

That’s what they want you to think

Break free maaan

[regal wharf]

Yeah I always run my own keys

[sick gazelle]

you can learn a lot from playing down at a lower level

it allows you to focus on other things

like refining your gameplay

[astral zephyr]

Same, they always get bricked 👈😎👈

[sick gazelle]

rather than pushing your limits

[fossil quiver]

should demolish be delayed for CS/Warbreaker and Avatar?

[regal wharf]

i mean i've timed 2 10's and completed 3 overall

[astral zephyr]

Depends on stacks and how long

[fossil quiver]

10 stacks

10 second for ex

[regal wharf]

every week I try to get 10's across the board but it takes one wipe to knock me out the entire week because people dont sign up for my keys

[astral zephyr]

I’d say if you can fill it with MS and maybe a cleave and still get a full demo off then ye

But I’m a fucking braindead peon

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-rock-gif-21708339

[half vine]

any updates to ST Raid and M+ builds that are documented?

[shadow ibex]

if you go into raidbots you can mess around with ST talents and see if any are an increase

[fluid hatch]

Is the arms accidental 30% buff already reverted?

[river ridge]

Yes already fixed.

[regal wharf]

😡

ofc they're fast when it comes to shamans and rogues

[stoic oyster]

im reading all these buffs but i just ran a +10 and i feel weaker than last night somehow

[shadow ibex]

make cleave

apply rend

like MS

thx

better yet

make MS frontal

[toxic panther]

question, is it a huge difference in M+ for arms to be playing collosus now that the patch is out? it hurts to not be able to bladestorm as an arms warrior

[shadow ibex]

run one dungeon as slayer and another as colossus and let us know

[unreal mountain]

i played both before Patch and still wait for the Patch cause im from EU. I can say that collusus is allready "okish" but with the reset, both speccs will be good . specially Collosus für keys

im rank 15 world btw but not manys arms anyways

[toxic panther]

i'd love to, im oce so its hard to get a group going that doesnt freak out about the ping haha

[stoic oyster]

im r1 on my server but i think theres like 4 of us

[unreal mountain]

xDD

@stoic oyster yeah im also r1 but only 300 or what ever

[burnt lake]

wouldnt be surprised if they reverted MS too hard

[junior cape]

so NAboys, fury or arms after the update?

[stoic oyster]

arms always forever but thas just me

[burnt lake]

if you have to ask, play fury.

[unreal mountain]

fury allways a bit ahead in keys because of kit but i only play arms so

i play collosus and slayer for keys and with the upcoming damage boost, it will be a blast

[stoic oyster]

colossus is very fun i just wish the swirlies didnt spawn under me as soon as i hit that button

[unreal mountain]

they should make collosus not static. We should be able to move some how

[dire hinge]

you can leap during demolish and still cast 😉

[unreal mountain]

but it feels good to press in AOE situation

i know but i would like to move allways 😄

[dire hinge]

trust, yeah

i want it to not be targeted, just lemme aim it like cleave

[unreal mountain]

exactly

like a frontal

[stoic oyster]

sometimes it takes a few seconds to set up properly and line up the mobs.. its a fun button to press but needs some mobility

or give warrs some range.. our weapons are supposed to be massive anyway

[unreal mountain]

yeah, pala dk and roque all have big range

[shadow ibex]

in this very discord

[cinder verge]

11m+11m+17m demolish cast on first boss of mists

[devout pewter]

man, why didn't we just stay quiet on that 30% buff so we could have been the new ele for a week 😄

[astral talon]

cuz we're respectable people

we're good

we're all for proper balance

no fun in demolishing people in details when we're superior

but when we're equal O_O

[devout pewter]

true to that haha

[pulsar elk]

fuckk yeah i went from simming at 1.26m to 1.38

thats a nice buffff

[devout pewter]

are raidbots already uptodate?

[toxic ingot]

do you guys think MT is still more viable then Slayer after tomorrows patch?

[pulsar elk]

must be, got different results from what i had saved last night

[vital rune]

Warrior trade post pieces don’t feel too warrioresque

At least some of them

[noble oxide]

this is arms dawg

[toxic ingot]

im sorry, clicked the wrong channel 😦

[devout pewter]

how dare you

[noble oxide]

no worries

[devout pewter]

here have a cookie, now go on your merry way

[fossil thistle]

okay. Demolish kinda hits hard

First dungeon as colossus so I kinda wasn't familiar with demolish timing, but still kinda slaps I guess

[thorn pelican]

trying out the diff talents and hitting cleave back to back is weirding me out

[fossil thistle]

as slayer?

[thorn pelican]

kinda sick tho

colo :P

[fossil thistle]

Oh? I wasn't running Exhilirating

I do as slayer to bait more

[thorn pelican]

more cleaves more dam zug zug

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/zug-zug-wo-w-world-of-warcraft-orc-dance-gif-12706638

[livid cloak]

Where are the 2 mil post buff screenshots

[tacit crystal]

dunno

i cranked as prot colo earlier

🙂

[carmine mulch]

no they fixed MS?

i knew something was wrong when i hit fpr 4.4M

[fossil thistle]

mortal strike in a recent 9

Cleave doe...

[carmine mulch]

jooci

[shadow ibex]

reap the storm hitting as hard as prebuf colossus MS

[fossil thistle]

Everyone stop

[shadow ibex]

[fossil thistle]

If we get too happy blizzard will nerf us

[valid flame]

Quick back to dooming

[fossil thistle]

UGH arms is so bad ffs I can't even kill a spider

[shadow ibex]

ST/2t one trick spec doing what an ST/2t one trick spec should do

[fossil thistle]

[fresh spire]

apl was pushed recently if its active now im not sure

sometimes takes a little while for the refresh then it works

[shadow ibex]

cook away the 4pc

i dont want to be able to taste 4pc anymore

[flat surge]

are there any major changes?

[shadow ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/785109237135179809/1098200167380963388/4x-2.gif

[stoic oyster]

confirmed colossus feeling good and hitting hard in m+

but MM hunters are busted

[slow saddle]

Ofc

[gaunt owl]

only means one thing

[shadow ibex]

we slap

[gaunt owl]

we need more buff

[tacit crystal]

true

nerf fury

[shadow ibex]

buff MS until 4pc go away

[unreal mountain]

Collosus MOA buff hits harder now then Arterial Blood. The cleave Damage am by25 % with the talent in AOE hits way to hard

[stoic oyster]

running Exhilarating blows atm cleave go brrr

[tacit crystal]

that is correct

[unreal mountain]

i wouldnt run as Collosus but as Slayer its really good

[tacit crystal]

?

opposite

[shadow ibex]

yea EB is kinda insane for colo

[unreal mountain]

i mean slayer procs the Reap the Storm talent

[shadow ibex]

with MBG

idk its actually dumb now

[tacit crystal]

with colo oyu can do spam cleave during ravager

[shadow ibex]

first mists packs just 4 cleave casts with MBG

[tacit crystal]

as slayer you cant

[stoic oyster]

but colossus size increase by 5%.. cannot beat that

[unreal mountain]

aaa i swapped the talents xD my bad

[shadow ibex]

bisect a pack

[tacit crystal]

colo can suck a fat one

real

[unreal mountain]

so we take out SKS for EB?

dont like it anyways

[shadow ibex]

what i use

i think ima drop soa for DN

[unreal mountain]

yeah me too

Dreadnaught good AOE + Now

[shadow ibex]

can drop 1 bb for BL

i think

[stoic oyster]

warbreaker good now with the cleave buff?

[tacit crystal]

dn sucks

fuck dn

soa big dam

[unreal mountain]

but doesnt feel it slow with only 1 point in Deft experience?

[next roost]

how is arms doing compared to fury after updates?

[untold matrix]

How good is Skullsplitter? I really don't like pressing that button and would like it to not be on my bars if there's somthing to get instead even if it's a minor decrease

[unreal mountain]

you should allways sim. SKS had more value for me when i picked the talent" aterial blood" but for now i would take it out for EB. More cleaves= More Big aoe

and dreadnaught is not that bad anymore tbh

15% damage boost was good

[stoic oyster]

i hate using it but it helps a lot on bosses

[solemn finch]

i have all the gear waiting for tomorrow

[tacit crystal]

if you hate pressing it that much

dont play it

why do somethign that isnt fun

[stoic oyster]

because it is our duty as warriors

[tacit crystal]

you might need to go outside then

[pallid cove]

yo gamers

[stoic oyster]

too much grass there

[pallid cove]

cant wait for tomorrow eu side for a liltte more damage hehe

[untold matrix]

If nothing else is even close then skullsplitter has to be used

[solemn finch]

already in for us servers?

[slender tangle]

raidbots has the new patch in place for EU or can I sim for the current stuff?

[pallid cove]

prob is not sure if seeing much changes

or to stay slayer or switch

[stoic oyster]

ive tried swapping skullsplitter with massacre.. works about the same

[unreal mountain]

when can i play the new patch on eu? around 4 am right?

[pallid cove]

think so

[untold matrix]

How much of a dps loss is massacre over skullsplitter?

[tacit crystal]

sim it

[candid pecan]

6 hours from now

[unreal mountain]

i dont like massacre as Collosus but sim it

[stoic oyster]

cant tell right now but its a lot easier to play

[unreal mountain]

@candid pecan ty

[tacit crystal]

im going to say it again but if you dont like playing a talent or a class or something in life stop and do something else

0 reason to waste your time

[pallid cove]

are you all going full into col now ?

[untold matrix]

Who asked though? I'm just tryna get answers without doing any work

[unreal mountain]

i do since release

of TWW

[tacit crystal]

clearly you asked

[polar portal]

Just sim it

It's not hard

Lol

[tacit crystal]

nah

it is

[stoic oyster]

massacre over colossus is one less button to worry a bout so i take it on fights that need a lot of movement

over skulspliter*

[untold matrix]

How did what I ask ask for this?

[tacit crystal]

^

[untold matrix]

Do you think you answered my question? What is your interpretation? maybe there is a language barrier or something.

[shadow ibex]

i like sks for rage

and i think its aoe gain

when it linesup with sweep

[minor gust]

if you dont like sks BL, EB, Mass, MBG are all playablr

[shadow ibex]

yea u can cook w/e u want

just press cleave on CD

[minor gust]

no 2 arms mains builds are gonna be the same for keys at this point

[untold matrix]

Is it important to get your overpower stack ups for every cleave or does it not matter

I still try to get 2 overpowers for either cleave or mortal because that's how it was when I played last but I don't know if things have changed

[edgy solstice]

nah

[stoic oyster]

its probably worthit now that overpower and dread was buffed

[edgy solstice]

you cleave on cd

[stoic oyster]

gotta test

[untold matrix]

Yeah

[tacit crystal]

hi trench

[edgy solstice]

i get unsilenced at midnight

[untold matrix]

I'll test some shit next time I'm on

[edgy solstice]

finally time for keys

[tacit crystal]

i remember why uou got banned now

post the protest again

[edgy solstice]

we got buffs, it worked

i was a martyr

[tacit crystal]

you died for us

[edgy solstice]

[tacit crystal]

i love you

[edgy solstice]

op prio goes up a bit but depends on talents. filler inbetween cleaves will likely be ms if not at 10 stacks of cm > tc if targets need rend > op

loosely

gonna feelycraft some builds tomorrow

[grim olive]

How does AP translate to damage? The wowhead datamine stuff shows Mortal Strike got a buff from 304% AP to 396% which seems way bigger than the 15% damage buff the skill was supposed to get

[tacit crystal]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_power

[shadow sky]

hows the new Arms?

[gaunt matrix]

ass

[shadow sky]

[placid vector]

Gonna try colossus to night at raid we will see

[gaunt matrix]

Honestly feels exactly the same for me

[placid vector]

Really? Surely seem a buff and to demolish in ST

[grim olive]

Essentially it should be the same with like 6-9% more oomf

[gaunt matrix]

I do like 100k more dps sometimes in aoe idk

not that exciting

[rough dirge]

396/304*100 = 30% increase ( already corrected Back to 15% so not 396 )

[grim olive]

Oh, that makes more sense, alright

[placid vector]

Some one got a talent tree for colossus ST raid ?

[grim olive]

Takes them a week to compensate us for bugs that lower our dps but the second they patch a bit too much of a buff they nerf it right back haha

[balmy cradle]

is brutal finish worth taking in mythic +

[edgy solstice]

no

[sturdy plank]

Today on EU Server…. We dont get the 30% buff right?

[tacit crystal]

no and its 15%

[sturdy plank]

Yeah i know

[regal wharf]

welp

down to an 8 stonevault

it went well but the machine speakers were really hard and I dced in the middle of the key

[fossil quiver]

is Hekili worth using at the beginning?

[tacit crystal]

🙂

[cunning pond]

are we suspecting to get any different talents taken for Single target?

[regal wharf]

imma be real! i always use hekili because i cant focus on ccing and keeping up my rotation

though im a low down dirty cheater for it

[quaint otter]

for most specs yes

[regal wharf]

i think healing with hekili is kinda weird

[sick gazelle]

hekili should be avoided as soon as you can so that you can build proper muscle memory and understanding of your rotation

[regal wharf]

honestly i feel I might be too far gone at this point for all but the specs im the most familiar with

[untold matrix]

Thank you

[regal wharf]

though tbh.. there was a hekili glitch where it was using single target prio so I had to adapt and I did decently

[sick gazelle]

you can use your low keys as an opportunity to play without it

so that its not wasted

you are still gaining something from it

[regal wharf]

if everything goes to hell and I end up with a fucking

5

ill do it

[tacit crystal]

surely you just invite fotm

[regal wharf]

uhh

I had a bear druid

demonology lock

mistweaver

and aug

[fossil quiver]

I feel like for arms it make me use thunderclap a lot on aoe

[sick gazelle]

i have never liked it

it was good at the very very beginning just to give me an understanding of the concept of pressing buttons every gcd

but its detrimental to your growth long term if you continue to use it

assuming its even correct all the time

[proud remnant]

Liking Exhilarating blows alot of Slayer M+ build now. Feels great!

[regal wharf]

idk ive been using it since the tail end of DF when I started to play the game and im scared to let go

[tacit crystal]

no

on reset

[keen canyon]

Simming 7k higher on 5min patchwerk for me can anyone confirm?

[final jungle]

Boys is slayer the go after this update ?

[teal fossil]

That could be it

Ms did just get buffed

You got the early access it seems

Cuz that is 15%

[next roost]

how is arms compared to fury after the update?

[wheat lagoon]

10 stonevault, Slayer build

[edgy solstice]

#updates-midnight message

[wanton sierra]

huge

[fringe hornet]

new buffs already on ?

[astral yarrow]

if you happen to live in the americas, yeah

[charred wigeon]

but im on eu and its live already

[fossil quiver]

hotfix?

cuz i didn't log out for 3 hours

no reset yet on EU

[fringe hornet]

Colossus or Slayer to M+10 ?

[balmy kindle]

interesting spin build u have there

[minor gust]

No EP is criminal

[fringe moon]

Yes. Brutal finish now for ST

[devout pewter]

Whatever you like more and what youre more comfortable with playing.
Personally love colossus. Slayer is boring 😄

[fringe hornet]

Colossus to big Burst aoe 🤭☝🏿

[regal wharf]

I just did my first key without hekili

6 arakara on sin

[neon ocean]

does MS still require 2x set buff in execute?

after the update

[sick gazelle]

[regal wharf]

646k overall

i spent like

most of the last boss dead

so I think I did good

[astral yarrow]

you'll bang eventually mate

keep at it

[edgy quest]

will the wow head be updated soon?

[vague nova]

Do you think if I make 50 wow accounts to post on forums how jugg needs an extended timer would they do it. We need it so bad 😭

[minor gust]

99 stack jugg perma duration

dont die

[astral yarrow]

i'd rather they just kinda killed it off and made the base kit better

[vague nova]

Eh I don’t HATE the maintenance buff style aspect of it. But when SD procs can consistently go dry enough that you drop jug it feels bad. Or if I’m with a pug tank that doesn’t chain pull the talents just so much worse

[keen canyon]

Thank you

[urban iron]

Is it troll if I just don’t play skullsplitter

It feels so gross

They should just delete it from the game

[old urchin]

For st yeah it is. On bosses in keys it’s like a 40k dps loss ST

[wheat lagoon]

idk, i do 1.1million ST with it with normal to good uptime

[urban iron]

St I begrudgingly press it but it still feels gross and I hate it

[river ridge]

I don't play it, but I also don't play Arms in Raid

[urban iron]

Modern problems modern solutions I guess

[crude fulcrum]

Skull splitter is trash?

[stoic oyster]

its good just janky to use

[plucky osprey]

I don't play it and my dmg is fine in raid and M+ I'm not a great player by all means but it doesn't feel good in m+ for sure

[stoic oyster]

i run it for raids but for m+ i sub massacre or something else

one less thing to worry about

[urban iron]

It doesn’t feel good anywhere because it’s not intuitive

[sick gazelle]

what makes it not intuitive?

[broken cove]

am i crazy or does mandate get a damage increase from colossus smash

[urban iron]

When you press it, it lops off half your rend duration

[sick gazelle]

ya so refresh your rend? you have like a 7 second window to rend in

[river ridge]

Weird to use, increases the number of times you need to press Rend during an encounter, has weird conditions during execute all for like 2% extra damage

[urban iron]

It doesn’t make sense for it to act that way, that’s not how it says it works

[stoic oyster]

skullsplitter should be a passive that reapplies with your rend every 20 sec or so

[urban iron]

And having it work that way makes the rest of the rotation feel janky because you gotta shoehorn rends in

All my opinion

Other people may love it who knows

[sick gazelle]

rend is one of your highest dmg/gcd abilities so it doesnt feel bad to press for me

[keen canyon]

No one loves SKS it's the most annoying button in the game lol

[stoic oyster]

rend is an upkeep ability, i dont have a problem with that.. but skullsplitter feels out of place every time

[proud remnant]

not using SKS

[stoic oyster]

make SKS passive

bake it into something

[river ridge]

I don't have a problem with pressing Rend. I have a problem with how frequently SKS forces you to press Rend

[proud remnant]

exactly

[urban iron]

Or just replace it with a better ability

Or make it work like it says it does

[sick gazelle]

why is rend a worse button to press than like slam? would you rather press slam instead?

[river ridge]

Unironically yes.

[proud remnant]

lets hope they rework this arms tree in 11.1 because right now its a few points shy of being something really sick

[azure sable]

CS

[stoic oyster]

i like the idea of somehow frontloading bleeds then applying a huge SKS

[azure sable]

rogues got their echoing reprimand (kirian power) into symbols of death/shiv

[stoic oyster]

could beef the left side of the tree to make it more focused on bleeds

[fresh tundra]

??

[azure sable]

also CS should be warbreaker baseline

[urban iron]

Imo if they turned sks into something like the df s3 prot tier where it ate your rend and deep wounds to do all the damage it would have up front

That would be a meaningful choice node

[azure sable]

it consumed all bleeds in DF then got nerfed

it was dope in pvp watching those bleeds tick superfast and delete ppl

arms needs a rework, that for sure

[urban iron]

I don’t think it does though

Pretty solid

[azure sable]

I feel we cant dump enough rage outside execute

and even in execute I'm caping sometimes

[proud remnant]

why isnt bladestorm baseline...

[urban iron]

If anything they should rework fury to be purely smf and balanced around that, have arms be 2h only

[proud remnant]

our cap stone talents are pretty useless

[faint wolf]

preach

[urban iron]

Give both specs some identity

[azure sable]

SMF should be cosmetic option

[urban iron]

Make them easier to balance

[azure sable]

having talents there where could be useful talents is bullshit

just let fury xmog 1h items into their 2hs

[urban iron]

See there you go

[azure sable]

and no more balance problems

[urban iron]

And no need to get 2x 2 handers

Which blows every season

[neon ocean]

do we play execute phase the same after patch? No change w/ MS usage?

[azure sable]

with 2x 2h you share gear with Arms

its more convenient

its more usual to get a good main hand 2h then an okayish offhand

getting a good 2h and good 1h is bs

[urban iron]

Getting two good 2h I assure you is in no way convenient

It’s awful

Especially if you try to push early

[azure sable]

who pushes early wtf

its all bugged

[urban iron]

To your point though, it’s the same as two one handers

Just give us Shalamayne so we can split em

Problem solved

[azure sable]

then u open the weekly chest and can only opt one spec weapons

the other one is fucked

my dude wont try to convince u, SMF fans are like a cult

and we're talking arms here xd

[edgy solstice]

SMF is a myth

[ionic latch]

How's Colo feeling after the buffs?

[vast hinge]

pumps

but squishy as hell

[edgy solstice]

woooooooooo blizz unsilenced me early

[fallow lark]

So Arms is better at ST than Fury?

[solemn finch]

even now i think its better

[devout pewter]

Play what you like more tho 😄

[fossil thistle]

Only better if you enjoy it

[devout pewter]

The best specc will always be the one you're most comfortable with and have the most fun with

[fossil thistle]

Side note.. I finally got my Taeschalach after 41 weeks

[devout pewter]

oh congrats

[soft gust]

grats

[devout pewter]

I should restart trying for that... haven't gotten it for pretty much 2 seasons in df haha

Was lootable from lfr upward right?

[fossil thistle]

Yea

[devout pewter]

alright, thanks 😄

[fossil thistle]

Skip is account wide now too

[fossil thistle]

Funny enough, LFR lol

[devout pewter]

haha nice

it's always from the easiest one

[shadow ibex]

i got mine randomly doing it on a whim

got taeshalach and still dont have the full plate xmog

[devout pewter]

bragstor

[shadow ibex]

like 8 kills deep

[devout pewter]

With my luck, if I start now and try it every week on my warrior I might get it before the Worldsoul Saga ends

Last Week maybe

[worldly kernel]

i dont have the mythic set but i have the black and red PVP set, never got taeshalach though

[shadow ibex]

i need to go back and finish throne of thunder tier set

most slept on war xmog ever

hi-res version of this i would do awful things for

[opal folio]

Doomed Crown of Lei Shen is sick

[devout pewter]

I wonder why they haven't yet just put someone onto upscaling the textures for these sets via comfyui (AI gen) or something

[shadow ibex]

axe is S tier too

imagine if we got a super HD version of uroe with mop remix

[opal folio]

[worldly kernel]

its because it was part of wow's old engine pre WOD they were just textures slapped on old armor models, not like how you can make cool shit now

you were kinda limited what you could make modelwise for armor, either that or they were lazy

[devout pewter]

that's the thing though, if they just take these textures and AI upscale them and slap them on the same model, it would already look better

remodeling the whole thing would obviously take A LOT more time

[wary stag]

guys wasnt it 7% across all specs ealier

I think Im going schizo

[worldly kernel]

that would require them to put in ( effort ) blizz WOULDN'T do that

but not gonna lie one of my biggest regrets is not getting the Cmode warrior gear from mop

[edgy solstice]

it was always 10 until it went live. they swapped it to 7 last min

[devout pewter]

the AI upscale wouldn't require effort, that's why I wonder why they didn't do it yet. BUT, I can guess: AI Upscale CAN introduce..... weird looking things, typical for AI, and they might want to avoid that to uphold some standards

[stray blade]

is dracthyr good damage on sims as a race for arms

[abstract schooner]

any talent swaps for Col ST now with the recent buffs?

[vast hinge]

im trying to figure out if i go uproar or blademaster's torment

[teal fossil]

Blademaster has 0 st benefits

I would just go uproar

Or armored to the teeth

[vast hinge]

yeah but it pumps so hard during those big pulls

like NW first pull, SV first pull

[teal fossil]

It does

But you can do first pull then walk out if you want to lol

[devout pewter]

Do we know btw. if EU already has the buffs in place through a hotfix or are we only getting blessed tonight?

[teal fossil]

Someone said on here that they got the buff

[junior horizon]

Are we looking at some new builds with these buffs or we good with old ones? for arms

[devout pewter]

yea, saw that but haven't seen any confirmation. I dont think that just the numbers in the tooltip are a good indication.

[teal fossil]

Nah number on the tooltip is like the best indication

It’s just that idk how he got it

Unless he geared 15% vers to troll us

[daring heron]

p sure it wasnt live when i played earlier like 3 hours ago

[devout pewter]

That was also around the time that person posted the pic I think

would be weird to have them suddenly push a big patch with changes on EU during US patchday.

Maybe it was just the extra 15% on MS or so?

[dusty depot]

I don't even know the point of it, fury barely uses execute at all

[vivid hinge]

does this look like a balanced experience ? https://mythicstats.com/dps?dungeon=375&period=982 look at arms for example and also the tanks in their dps. huge differences in my opinion

[devout pewter]

I'd argue that arms stats are skewed by people trying it and not playing it well enough while most "good" people play either fury or prot

[teal fossil]

Sample size of 48

And this is probably logs

[shadow ibex]

yea

lmao

[devout pewter]

[shadow ibex]

48 runs

MAN WTH THIS CLASS

1.7k frost dks

[devout pewter]

that's probably from only one person too lmao

[vivid hinge]

its in the range from +11 to +17

[shadow ibex]

also checking mists

and classes at top just murder first boss

with 3mins

vs a class that does not have a potent 3min

[vivid hinge]

https://mythicstats.com/dps?dungeon=&period=982

[balmy kindle]

It's the survival hunter thing where u are either cracked or just trying

[vivid hinge]

here are all dungeons

[dusty depot]

I mean, it also sims much lower than fury

[vivid hinge]

281 runs and just a bit above aug from dps

[shadow ibex]

and all dungeons has 281 arms warriors

vs 7k enhance

[minor gust]

I crit all my demolishes on first boss ty

[shadow ibex]

none of mine did

did skarm last night. 0 crits on demo absorb shield

[teal fossil]

People uploading logs are usually them flexing

[devout pewter]

gotta pray to the crit cake god

meanwhile me uploading logs seeing if I still blue log like the slowpoke I am because I'm not playing enough to actually get gud

[dusty depot]

Overall in a dungeon run if you play both specs optimally arms should be about 100k lower than fury

[vivid hinge]

in theory yes

[devout pewter]

Which considering the numbers, is basically nothing

[vivid hinge]

in the reallity it isnt like that most times sadly

[devout pewter]

yep

[vivid hinge]

arms just need a bit more love idk how the buffs are now for arms

[dusty depot]

Might bring it up somewhere in the lower middle

[devout pewter]

it's really weird tho. looking at individual runs some post here we're really popping

[dusty depot]

Often it's pictures of people with way better gear than the rest of the group (or just better)

like 630+ warriors running a 10

[devout pewter]

that could be yea

[teal fossil]

It’s easier to screenshot than log

[daring heron]

we'll get a better idea once people get more time to test stuff

[devout pewter]

one of my last runs, no idea what that fdk was doing(except for when his cooldowns were ready haha) but been trading blows with the ret a lot, but stayed on top of him most times

considering this should look way different between me and the ret I guess it's just not optimal play from him I guess

[vast hinge]

im neck and neck with rets and fdks

in +12s

atm

[vivid hinge]

after the new buffs?

[devout pewter]

similar Ilvl?

[vast hinge]

but i flop to a breeze

ye im 628 theyre 627

[devout pewter]

yeah, that doesn't sound like we're bottom of the list somehow

[daring heron]

ye arms is just not passively tanky

unlike fury

and especially unlike dk

[shadow ibex]

[devout pewter]

just don't get hit! 😄

[daring heron]

arms can usually live just fine though, we have a strong defensive kit, just got to use it

[devout pewter]

"To avoid dying, don't let your HP hit 0" - or how was that loading screen tip?

[vivid hinge]

[devout pewter]

yeah, with arms you just have to actively use your defs, fury's is a bit more passive

fury's is like a constant hot

[vivid hinge]

fury can heal himself really very good tbh

[shadow ibex]

more stam and WP go a very long way

super long

[silk spade]

jugg has to be

the most annoying thing in this game

how is this still in the game

[devout pewter]

just gotta make IP for arms basically free or something...

or baseline

[vast hinge]

IP barely makes a dent

its like 300k hp

[shadow ibex]

yea they fucked IP

[vast hinge]

tooltip says 1.7m

[shadow ibex]

they forgot about it really

[devout pewter]

it's something

[vast hinge]

they honestly need to take the CD off it or something

[daring heron]

can pretty much blame the legion execute video

[shadow ibex]

just doesnt work and no one at blizz has actually pressed that button so they dont know

[vast hinge]

make it like prot, we can trade rage for a bigger IP

[minor gust]

the irony of it not even being arms in the video

[daring heron]

[shadow ibex]

i wonder if blizz knows u'd need to IP 3 times to get the tooltip

and how thats like near impossible

[devout pewter]

considering you can barely spare any rage sometimes.. yea

[shadow ibex]

its impossible because any situation u'd press IP

you're taking dmg

and its gonna get eaten b4 you can even get max value

+11 sec CD with 12 sec duration i think?

so dont miss a fuckin second of the press

[daring heron]

ye i played around it a lot in df

yazma i needed to stack at least 3 times to live soulrend on high key

2 times

[quaint otter]

[shadow ibex]

i guarentee they have no idea

it works like that

put a billion dollars on it

[teal fossil]

It’s essentially baseline

[shadow ibex]

warbringer devs

[teal fossil]

One of those talents are mandatory

[vivid hinge]

in past they had...

[quaint otter]

Iirc it was stronger in df

[devout pewter]

but utterly worthless

[teal fossil]

It is

But that’s a balance issue

[devout pewter]

yup

but I doubt we'll see it balanced up

[shadow ibex]

it cant be free otherwise ppl would just macro it to MS

idk just cursed

[teal fossil]

Yeah because they snuck in another stamina nerf going into tww

[quaint otter]

It was good for progress

[shadow ibex]

i would rather just have prot indomitable

10% health and heal on rage spent

done ez

fixd it for you blizz

[quaint otter]

500k hps on execute

[manic blade]

so arms is back then??

[shadow ibex]

exactly

[vivid hinge]

btw do you play colus or slayer in m+ rn? played arms a few weeks ago with slayer

[vast hinge]

bruh they could give us perma d stance

and we'd still be less tankier than dk

[shadow ibex]

get tankier in exe

[devout pewter]

Play whatever you find more fun

[shadow ibex]

call it idk thematic

[vivid hinge]

when i watch pikaboo rn in pvp playing colus it looks really funny but its pvp xd

[teal fossil]

Tbf I would rather have this than fueled by violence

[devout pewter]

try it out, see how you like it in a dungeon 🙂

I'd take colossus over slayer any day

[shadow ibex]

indomitable would be fuckin so much fun

[teal fossil]

Both are passive and indom doesn’t have the problem of scaling with target count

So it doesn’t have to be dogshit worthless on st

[vivid hinge]

[stoic oyster]

has anyone managed to run Fatality in m+? viable?

[devout pewter]

Who doesn't love popping from like 500k dps to 2m+ in the blink of an eye

[placid citrus]

any1 have the issue when swapping from fury to arms..the weapon doesnt equip right

[shadow ibex]

fatality hasnt been buffed so kinda ass

[vivid hinge]

and then die from aggro?

[devout pewter]

nah, you'd be ~5s into the fight at least

[shadow ibex]

only spec that can spare a point for fatality is colossus really

[vivid hinge]

alr im trying after eu reset

[devout pewter]

unless you already carry over 10 stacks for demolish from the fight before... then it might get harry

[shadow ibex]

and each stack of fatality is like slightly more dmg than a slam

[vivid hinge]

what races are good for warrior btw for min maxing?

except nelf for shadowmelt in m+ content

[stoic oyster]

tauren. female

[shadow ibex]

its all p even u would be best suited to pick for w/e utility u want

meld stoneform

[minor gust]

one juicy thing ive noticed from playing EB colossus is that unhinged MS can reset the cd of your MS

[devout pewter]

iirc races are at most maybe .5% of difference?

[shadow ibex]

yea EB can proc from unhinged

its p cool

[vast hinge]

I think EB is a must have

[devout pewter]

oh shit, chilled too much with you guys, need that one last delve for my heroic vault slots!

[vast hinge]

it resetting cleaves during your biggest cds

is so much dps

especially with ravager running

[balmy kindle]

That's interesting

[vast hinge]

and sweep up

[balmy kindle]

mBG EB back on the menu

[shadow ibex]

i mean u have to be super mega paying attention to take advantage of it

but yea it can reset

cuz MS is probably up in like 1 gcd anyway and assuming colossus its aoe and ur mashing cleave

[stoic oyster]

cleave mash go brrrr

whats the highest collateral stack anyone has gotten?

[shadow ibex]

i just want to have every unhinged MS cast crit and get back to back to back fierce follow thru

[raw sapphire]

Does the build change at all for colossus?

or is it the same

[broken cove]

quesiton

are we using transmitter on pull and just sending mandate whenever

or only during c smash windows

[vital rune]

Idk how you guys ball out so hard with Col

Just did a 9 Siege and couldn't even crack 1m when I'm usually well above that with Slayer

[balmy kindle]

13-14

You can probably get higher with EB

[minor gust]

lmao stacking multipliers on cleave is so funny

4.3mil cleave crit

5mil demolish crit

[balmy kindle]

Big numbers happe

[jagged goblet]

Yooo fellas why is surigcal heartstopper better than charged claymore?

[minor gust]

link your sim

[jagged goblet]

wasn't simming, was just looking at icy veins and wowhead

didnt sim it because it seems.. wrong?

wanted to ask here first

[minor gust]

because arms bis embelishments isnt ascendance

[balmy kindle]

Always trust Mr robot

[jagged goblet]

hmmm okay. i think ill run into the issue of not having a myth track version of it versus the crafted

but ill sim it

[minor gust]

a lot of people crafted the weapon with ascendance because its bis for fury and most warriors here flex both specs for the raid. Was an easy myth lvl weapon at the time if you didnt get lucky with getting one at mythic release.

[hazy flower]

it was good dps boost

for mythic prog

think it gave me like 100k dps over the one I had

[minor gust]

yup

[hazy flower]

i wonder what uptime I would have

if I were to swap to x2 bsl

given it's 80% this tier

[balmy kindle]

Idk I am not gonna bother with those since losing dmg from Rot sucks harder

[minor gust]

they are a lot better than the DF version

you get the buff back instantly when ur back past 80%

[hazy flower]

oh

didnt know

thought we still have the 4,6 or something sec cd

[minor gust]

yeah no more of that weird delay/cd

[hazy flower]

only thing is tho

compared to df s4

these are kinda wack

stats wise

since they lowered it to 80%

[minor gust]

yeah they are lower

[vital rune]

Brown class still never gets invited

[balmy kindle]

Prot ?

Guaranteed invites near 620

[vital rune]

Brown dps class still never gets invited

[vivid hinge]

better play in a a guild group or com group

[hasty creek]

anyone know of any low hp dummys to practice execute on?

[quick vale]

And above

[proper atlas]

so fury or arms

[summer heath]

for PvP craftable accesseries what do i get (i mean stat wise) aiming for 2 pvp rng and neck ?

[balmy kindle]

It's what I do, arms with the guildies but prot if I need crests fast from pug

[summer heath]

Crit/haste with mastery enchant ?

[vivid hinge]

haste vers was the way to go

but idk how its now

[summer heath]

Why not crit haste according to wowhead ?

[latent moss]

and since bsl was overbudget AF

[vivid hinge]

https://murlok.io/warrior/arms/solo#gear

[summer heath]

PvE sorry

[vivid hinge]

oh idk mate 😄

[summer heath]

i cant even do arena as arms too fustrating and keep dying/failing

[vivid hinge]

im sure it has a bit of a learning curve but once mastered its very strong only weakness is for example rooting effects from frost mages and so on

[summer heath]

cant cause of carpal tunnel syndrome

[vivid hinge]

All the best for a speedy recovery

[rich ridge]

hey guys im new to arms whats the talent build for ST?

[proper atlas]

cleave

op

lmao

[regal wharf]

I love cleave

[fossil thistle]

wowhead.com

[balmy kindle]

Other classes looking at our meters in keys : it's all cleave

[placid pecan]

what should be our prio for skullsplitter in m+/raid, how much damage does it really add in total. would i pref not overcapping on overpower vs putting skullsplitter on cd?

[smoky kayak]

should probably ask in #pvp

[raw sapphire]

Can i spell reflect the dot on last boss of stonevault?

[minor gust]

no

[raw sapphire]

calm

[manic river]

Is it real that we got a +30% to MS? or they are reverting that?

[fathom shoal]

so is it Fierce followthru + brutal finish now for ST?

[lyric whale]

Are the sims on raidbots updated with the revert on mortal strike? I'm simming 300k higher on Arms with wrong secondary stats.

[fathom shoal]

no more opportunist?

[vital rune]

Meanwhile outlaw rogues... blade flurry out dpsing everything by like 25x

[balmy kindle]

Understandable since its their cleave ability

So it just pads on everything

[vital rune]

I think we end up having a good split by the end of a dungeon

[balmy kindle]

Already reverted back to 15%

[golden magnet]

Hows arms feel overall in m+ now? We beating fury yet?

[quaint otter]

[minor gust]

[quaint otter]

Last time we could actually beat fury was df s2

[golden magnet]

Guessing that's a no 😂

[quaint otter]

And still sucked

[balmy kindle]

Well you can cope that most fury players are not that competent

More likely than not you can gap them

[edgy solstice]

no arms is playing with a fury anyway

[balmy kindle]

Unlikely but possible (8-9 range)

[rigid lily]

You attack your brothers when we should unit against others...

[balmy kindle]

Hey now whenever I get gapped by fury I actually see what's he's doing tho

When I play fury it's always 90s of fun then below tanks

[rigid lily]

I'll try arms when the patch is up on eu

I'm hyped a bit

Gotta get some crit for colossus tho

[balmy kindle]

Imma give you that furys survivability is nice on higher keys esp thane

Legit hard to die

[manic river]

Yeee

[manic river]

Ok, completely normal xd but it was crazy reading it at first

[balmy kindle]

I posted a run when it was 30% though, was blasting on NW 9

Like Ms was doing some crazy damage

[wintry sable]

If you sweeping strikes in bladestorm will it affect mortal strike proc's from unhinged?

[balmy kindle]

No but it does count for colossal might stacks

[wintry sable]

Okay thanks 😊

[devout pewter]

a moment of silence for that lost feature

[umbral gyro]

Hows Arms Doing After buffs?

M+

[balmy kindle]

Not top tier but viable

[true mason]

is raidbots a viable way of simming talent change dps

[devout pewter]

I'd say so, as much as it's viable for gear change

[true mason]

ok just wanted to know if i was doing it wrong - i moved around a few talents since the changes and everything seemed to be a significant dps loss

thought maybe moving into Exhilirating Blows/Battlelord might show some increase but was disappointed

[edgy solstice]

for raid?

[balmy kindle]

EB and battlelord are things that feel good but Sim poorly (m+)

[true mason]

yeah, im new at this so i'm probably still doing it wrong haha but yeah i thought with the mortal strike changes those talents might be a dps increase

for single target raid

[edgy solstice]

there won't be any reg talent changes

unhinged and jugg/ep are too much value so left side wont happen

[true mason]

yeah i believe you trench from what i'm seeing

[edgy solstice]

sks too much value

keys will prob get jumbled up

[obtuse sluice]

damn i was really hoping the buffs would bring arms somewhat close to fury

im still doing so much more dps on fury

[thick hamlet]

can i get a confirmation on ss allowing tc to spread more rend?

[balmy kindle]

How much is your mastery

[tired sinew]

bring back mortal combo!

[balmy kindle]

Mortal combo is nice but those were the days where I was playing fairy arms

Burrs passive doing 5% dmg overall

[devout pewter]

Thunderclap isn't "using" Rend on every single target, it itself applies it, and since it's an AoE attack: No, SS does not help TC to spread more Rend

[tired sinew]

fairy arms was fun.. i think mortal combo would be kinda OP if unhinged could proc it haha 6 MS in 1 BS cast..

[shadow ibex]

its bugged and can apply to more than 5 with ss up

can test on pull before sikran really like 7 targets i think?

[devout pewter]

I was literally about to write "unless it's currently bugged" lmao

[vivid hinge]

arms buff is good

[shadow ibex]

idk if its always but ye

[thick hamlet]

how many targets? just +1?

[unreal mountain]

Collosus got way better but somehow still feels weak for me 😦

and clunky

[edgy solstice]

ss jsut doubles the rend apps

[devout pewter]

And suddenly Raidbots queue at 800 haha

[edgy solstice]

i do it all the time first pull of siege

[shadow ibex]

ive seen it not work but idk if ss just ran out and im dumb

but yea it def applies more

[edgy solstice]

it's niche tho, not really worth a lot of the time

[unreal mountain]

guys , should i take an Myth track Weapon or Ara Kara trinket?

[devout pewter]

I'd not get used to it tbh, they'll probably fix it soon

[unreal mountain]

i only have one 636 crafted weapon, if i want to play fury, the weapon would be a big upgrade

[edgy solstice]

it's existed since week 1 so idk if it'll get changed soon

but eventually prob

[devout pewter]

[shadow ibex]

do u hold sweeping? i jsut send with charge

and tclap idc

even at 5target

missing 1 global of it meh im already throwing down ravager during it and WB as well

[unreal mountain]

i did but the queu timer is to high

ty anyways

[devout pewter]

Am waiting on the queue myself now haha

holy jesus it just went to 1250

[minor gust]

assuming ur playing col I like to send immediatly that way it lines up perfectly to have collateral in your cds like avatar and colossal might

[devout pewter]

EU bois eating right now

[shadow ibex]

yea i just like to get it on CD