arms

[thick kelp]

and deswind

[astral yarrow]

i only trust box

[silent flame]

Trust nobody
Not even yourself

Just hit things

And make sure you hit them hard

[torpid jackal]

my only concern is that this sounds like a good way to accidentally munch VO procs

[sacred zodiac]

wtf is vo

do i need to know what that is to tank

[thick kelp]

its the amp on next shield slam or tclap

after spend x rage

i thinks

[torpid jackal]

Violent outburst

[steep osprey]

Doubt

[brisk slate]

Violent Outburst. Makes your next SS or TC big and give more rage.

It's not a good idea to macro IP to shield slam, you want to macro SS to IP and have a dedicated SS button, if one wants to be accurate.

[boreal quartz]

ye the macro is obv not optimal

but if you cannot press ip right cuz of old ppl fingers

best you can do

[torpid jackal]

Ahhh fair

related: does SS not check for VO the moment it's pressed? it doesnt happen often but i've noticed a few timed i'll be at 7 stacks of seeing red, shield slam, THEN IP and the slam will eat my VO from the rage spent on IP

[fresh spire]

Dunno nom says its fine to do as you spend rage moment you slam to force fastest resets on slam

🤷‍♂️

[torpid jackal]

why are we in the arms channel i just noticed

[fresh spire]

I personally dont use macro. Just something the class writer wrote in macros

Arms channel is basically general chat

Since there isn't much to talk about while fury is in monke mode 1000 messages a min

[brisk slate]

The other way around is recommended to snipe SS resets from Devastator, macroing IP to SS just causes you to be perpetually rage starved

[fresh spire]

But I'd agree prot is fucking button bloat hell

[gaunt owl]

prot is leaking

calling the police

[fresh spire]

Prot is the meta spec after all

[thick kelp]

was

now its prot pala

[gaunt owl]

pal prot is the way

the cycle repeat itself

S1 DF

same shit

[thick kelp]

joever

[daring heron]

prepare a bear for next season

[thick kelp]

alfabear

critmage

runitback

[gaunt owl]

rise of mage S2 then ?

they getting a nice little rework ?

how nice of blizzard

[thick kelp]

Just wait till we get first 11.1 notes

another firemage rework

[astral yarrow]

could you please just have a max level of every dps spec ready to reroll to, make "disappointed critcake" videos for 3 weeks and then just play warrior till we are trash again

seems to work out pretty well

[thick kelp]

Leveling is quite quick now with this anniversary event

[daring heron]

it's a very strong play

[gaunt owl]

if firemage gets a rework

[daring heron]

it has a cooldown i think

[gaunt owl]

i'm setting up a bot to spam blizzard forum

[steep osprey]

yeah it is, i got from 60 ro 64 in one TW dungeon

[astral yarrow]

i feel like it has "worked" on more than one occasion

so do it for the people

community figure an all that you know

[thick kelp]

community figure and warrriors dont go well together

sl s2 incident

[daring heron]

the spec i reroll to should fear for their life

[thick kelp]

Yeah fdk got a .3% nerf thanks to u crit

[torpid jackal]

its cuz ur too goated at the game and make any spec look op

[steep osprey]

reroll to sin rogue

[fresh spire]

Critcake slowly getting other classes nerffed

[steep osprey]

SIN ROGUE

please

[fresh spire]

👏

[thick kelp]

Verrug benched

welcome Critstab

[astral yarrow]

how about rwf healers and incidents

[daring heron]

verrug benched himself a while ago

[thick kelp]

priest healers*

[astral yarrow]

aug claims another victim

[astral yarrow]

oh yeah minor detail

[boreal quartz]

minor

MONMKA

[thick kelp]

minors

[steep osprey]

[boreal quartz]

joshing

[steep osprey]

You do Fury sims too, right?

[thick kelp]

he does

he is the man

from KFC drive thru

[steep osprey]

I have one question regarding Thane

There's a talent that increases the proc chance of LS by 30%, I wonder if we'll use that with the buffs tomorrow

But on the other hand the other choice node does increase execute and RB damage by 25% while making LS give 3 rage

[sacred zodiac]

lore?

[steep osprey]

We also don't really press execute so I was thinking maybe that talent will finally overtake this one

[fresh spire]

I dis try some new talent builds but it didn't show up. Tbh I haven't done some excessive looks into fury compared to arm's since there are a few others that also look at fury stuff so I prio arm's first

I actually wondered about it when I was looking over talents. Smf rising?

[astral yarrow]

smf is actually only 5% behind 2 2hs

608 ilvl btw

[thick kelp]

smf is actually only 5% behind 2 2hs
608 ilvl btw

[steep osprey]

smf is actually 2% behind 2 2hs

600 ilvl btw with no 2h weapons

[steep osprey]

Why would smf rise

[fresh spire]

Why not it's time

[fresh spire]

Nah I'm memeing

I'd love to see smf even closer

[gaunt owl]

i want SMF to be BIS for 1 tier

[fresh spire]

Or some one hander 2 hander mix bs

[gaunt owl]

just to see the fucking riot in Fury

[steep osprey]

what does 30% more often mean?

[gaunt owl]

[fresh spire]

Weapon master

[steep osprey]

it's 25% normally

what would 30% more often mean?

[fresh spire]

30% of 25

[astral yarrow]

i'd love to see smf ahead

the outrage

[steep osprey]

so it's not that good?

[thick kelp]

would be a bigger war than s4

[fresh spire]

Think its more just what procs it is poor

Garentee on a blast vs rng

[steep osprey]

yeah true

[cloud gyro]

demolish can get parried

👨‍💻

[fresh spire]

Parry is a bug

Remove it from game

🙏

Or re indroduce resist for casters

[silent flame]

Not as bad as kingsbane being parried

[cloud gyro]

resist touch of the magi

[fresh spire]

Colossus smash getting parried too

Even warbreaker

Boss parried the ground shattering guys

[steep osprey]

fuck rogues

[fresh spire]

[cloud gyro]

rogues have an ability that puts them right where the boss doesnt parry

[fresh spire]

Throw back to the legendary grommak video

[cloud gyro]

i dont think they can complain

[fresh spire]

I GOT FUCKING PARRIED

GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF HEREEEEEE

[silent flame]

Can’t warriors too with leap

[thick kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHEWfuAV1fg

[steep osprey]

there are some bosses u can't really admire their rear

[cloud gyro]

yep for a global and travel time

[fresh spire]

https://youtu.be/IHEWfuAV1fg?si=3yRziLzEe9MoRBvn

Ahh you beat me too it

Actual legend

[cloud gyro]

https://youtu.be/IHEWfuAV1fg?si=3yRziLzEe9MoRBvn

[fresh spire]

I just love thr heavy breathing afternit

Man's fuming

[silent flame]

Queen is not one of them

[astral yarrow]

going straight to the vault

[thick kelp]

invite to the vault

[gaunt owl]

i got parried on one of bladestorm tick in open world

[finite mantle]

he really is goated

[gaunt owl]

almost yeeted my pc out the window

[icy mulch]

Been playing around with Col Arms, this look right for a damage break down?

[gaunt owl]

looks ok

[silent flame]

Been thinking of swapping to col tbh
That big ability looks fun

But I also like my spinning

[cloud gyro]

dont sleep on colossus

[strange perch]

Any Ansurek HC logs for colossus arms?

[icy mulch]

Nah, Grim Batol run.

[strange perch]

Grim indeed

That was a pun.

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-funny-animals-funny-turning-gif-10670068

[astral yarrow]

you can filter for it on wcl

[kind stag]

Patch live in US?

[silent flame]

I ain’t sleeping on it, just haven’t tried it

[icy mulch]

not yet

[thick kelp]

Just wait for the vault posts

[daring heron]

im gonna bet for extended maintenance

[astral yarrow]

as is tradition

how long are you betting on

[daring heron]

3 hours

[fresh spire]

[fresh spire]

goblin

https://tenor.com/view/spoingus-pass-the-tuna-down-gif-21178537

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/spoingus-pass-the-tuna-down-gif-21178537

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/spoingus-pass-the-tuna-down-gif-21178537

[steep osprey]

did u guys know tuna has a lot of mercury

[fresh spire]

Yeh but

You can tuna a piano but you cant tuna fish

[steep osprey]

Not recommended to eat a lot of tuna

[steep osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rise-hand-rise-hand-rise-up-cat-me-too-gif-24649542

[wanton sierra]

do you know how much time of maintence?

[steep osprey]

as much as possible

[wanton sierra]

plz no! i mean, i really need that maintence time to finish some work

buut the hype is real

[steep osprey]

too bad

8+ maintenance

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-stars-yes-yass-awesome-gif-21935666

[wanton sierra]

hope to get bis gear on vault!! ❤️ got some gilded crests to upgrade it

[steep osprey]

is 8 hours maintenance

[fresh spire]

He has a question

[astral yarrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/943906056483004547/943917451727474739/caption.gif

[thick kelp]

https://imgur.com/WZlIezq

[silent flame]

Mantinance is gonna take so long EU will open their vault before US

[wanton sierra]

i hope there is problems on eu servers, so they wait longer

[steep osprey]

has that ever happened

[thick kelp]

@boreal quartz do u have warrior elite yet

do i go pve opener some noobs in SS tmrw

[boreal quartz]

i havent started yet

[thick kelp]

do we go 2's

2x arm

[boreal quartz]

i think fury is better

but ye we can game some shit

[thick kelp]

Yeah but fuck fury

[boreal quartz]

tho tmr ihave raid

[thick kelp]

ye idk when I will have

free time

[boreal quartz]

i normally have a dedicate pvp char

but idk if that makes sense now

cuz main has 4p and alt wont have 4p

[obtuse copper]

@boreal quartz Explain

[boreal quartz]

nto my guy

[obtuse copper]

But it says Phil..

[wanton sierra]

i got an colossus pvp build! xD

[boreal quartz]

/dancing irl rn

[obtuse copper]

Looks like photoshop

[boreal quartz]

do you like stun demo ppl

or how do u ever ht that xd

[wanton sierra]

they cant scape with spear on their @ss xD

[royal jungle]

Peak warrior fantasy

Speared, hammered and greatsworded

[thick kelp]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOBRVQVFRgEFYZUVBROVRFRVRQlUkVQEQCREEFVVUBE This is what an arms guy played in NA semis

@boreal quartz

[wanton sierra]

nice way to try to get demo crited, idk demo without crit feels like an ms xD

[boreal quartz]

setting up my pvp gear rn

[thick kelp]

got my full honor set

on philwar

keks

[wanton sierra]

kek

[cloud gyro]

-4k strength

[boreal quartz]

we ball

i can get more bloody token gear ig

[thick kelp]

Ballin

[boreal quartz]

for rings

[wanton sierra]

this is our best talent, so much weight

[obtuse copper]

Love seeing those Uldir legs put to use ngl

Really nice model

[boreal quartz]

ye they are neat

which purple wep tho

ash, pvp, uldir or balance of power..

[obtuse copper]

Artifact on bottom left

Or Ashk

[finite mantle]

uldir

[boreal quartz]

doesnt match Sadeg

uldir is a bit off sadly

[wanton sierra]

im using that new sword mog, the very first there... real nice sword, must be a good match with war tier 2 new set

[boreal quartz]

this one alr matches old T2

so itll work with new too

[thick kelp]

wheres your new t2

[wanton sierra]

im around 40 coins xD

[sharp wyvern]

Can you even get it w1?

[thick kelp]

ye u can

62 tokens

if u did some funny bugs

46 otherwise

[boreal quartz]

not done yet

[thick kelp]

Getting it nxt week with all the token buffs

then yoinking that mog

[wanton sierra]

buugs? ok im openin an report ticket here xD

hehehe jokin

[sharp wyvern]

Its the secret questline I think

Thats the only one I didn't do and I'm at 46

[wanton sierra]

i think you can do it with alts to get extra

[boreal quartz]

the event is so shit tho

[thick kelp]

No there was a bug with alts etc

that u could earn extra

[wanton sierra]

i got 40, next week ill wear the famous t2 mog

[thick kelp]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/massive-increase-to-bronze-celebration-token-on-weekly-reset-349291?utm_source=discord-webhook

and the fact that the tierset price goes downs once you buy one

[wanton sierra]

holy shit! MASSIVE increase indeed

[sharp wyvern]

Lmao

[wanton sierra]

15 coins to kill tha quueen

[sharp wyvern]

We realized we timegated it to the point people can't earn the rewards

So here you go

[wanton sierra]

its anniversary, everyone will get all the mogs! xD take more coins!

[manic egret]

is craft still expensive af?

[cyan oriole]

not on na but craft price still higher than df

[steep osprey]

NO

caps

[cyan oriole]

that's such a weird looking build. he has to be giving up a ton of dps not taking cleave right?

[boreal quartz]

its pvp

[thick kelp]

its for pvp

[cyan oriole]

ooh

[wanton sierra]

pvp colossus big boy

[thick kelp]

colossus in pvp

till enemy realizes

they can walk thru ur model

to dodge it

horror

[cyan oriole]

makes way more sense. i was sitting there thinking about how itd possibly work in m+

[thick kelp]

Yeah we dont pve around here in Arms channel

[wanton sierra]

there is 50 pve arms in the world

[cyan oriole]

i am one of them

just not a good one

[wanton sierra]

all of us who type here are! there is some fury chads that use here too... ppl jump around channels

[vital summit]

why not spear for pvp ?

keep the enemy still while I miss my demolish

[wanton sierra]

spear is nice but its cd is cringe... and the dam is very low

but i use it on pvp too ^^

[vital summit]

but the utility of it

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/repost-this-wolf-when-they-least-expect-it-repost-repost-this-repost-this-cat-repost-this-dog-gif-26611543

[boreal quartz]

only 4 casts

for 130% of a mage barrier

[wanton sierra]

does ip is now good? 2M of shield is decent? you using improved ip on colossus tree

?

[boreal quartz]

4 casts

• imp IP

its so bad

[wanton sierra]

damn, ip need some tunnin...

[boreal quartz]

ye

1 cast

[wanton sierra]

lol

[nimble yoke]

seems like even after buffs going colossus arms in keys instead of thane fury isnt worth

sadge

[boreal quartz]

nah

[nimble yoke]

i was hoping colossus would be more ST or at least closer aoe

considering that fury is tankier as well

[steep osprey]

tbh mage barrier is 1m cd

30

actually nvm

[icy mulch]

Thane Fury gor some massive buffs as well. So it only goes to say Fury will still be better.

Just a lot more spammy

[nimble yoke]

i just think more ST buffs on colossus may have been nice

[icy mulch]

I agree, but at least Execute got some love.

[nimble yoke]

also idk about after buffs but i did some keys yday as arms and my god MS feels like shit

[icy mulch]

Juggernaut, massacre could be a play for big ST.

[nimble yoke]

how you gonna have 2xEP 2xtier set buff 2xOP and do like 1.5m

[icy mulch]

Un-buffed MS does feel limp. When you get stars aligned, it smacks for 2 mil.

[nimble yoke]

but 2m doesnt even feel good lol

limp noodle ability becomes a more firm noodle with 50 buffs

feelsgoodman

now when my cleave crit for 8m THAT felt nice

[median scroll]

stop playing pvp

[icy mulch]

8 mil in total?

[nimble yoke]

details said 8m so i assume on a single target

since i dont think it adds up all the damage per cast

[icy mulch]

Hmmmm, that seems a tad off.

[wanton sierra]

hey, no one is tryin brd heroic... there is no incentive to do it... for alts ok, but mains now is after myth gear, not heroic... none of the trinks or gear is better... i think they shoulda consider an new npc that you could exchange your heroic gear (+50 heroic coins) to trade for the same piece of gear but on myth version, to try to incentivise ppl to do it... there is only brd sell ¬¬

[nimble yoke]

with like 19 or so stacks of collateral damage, ava+colossus smash, one against many, 2xMP (idk does EP affect cleave i probably had it) and 2x tier set buff i don't see it being too crazy

oh and demolish dmg buff

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp ???

why does macro brick

cuz of pvp talent

[icy mulch]

[boreal quartz]

big solution

@thick kelp least conveluted exe wa

[thick kelp]

OME

[thick kelp]

Wtf is htis

[visual fern]

What gonna be in dk vault

[boreal quartz]

it tracks EP/SD stacks and also imp exe cd if sd is over the icon

[thick kelp]

[boreal quartz]

no 4 m pug?

[thick kelp]

dk lacks the items i fear

[boreal quartz]

also checks hp cuz spell usable is stank

[thick kelp]

spell usable is so stank

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelplook at this one i tried to make

[wanton sierra]

i got 3 myth on m+.. 2 heroic loot on raid

[boreal quartz]

that takes APL prio into consideration

xdd

[thick kelp]

Holy

I have to take a peek once home

[boreal quartz]

[thick kelp]

horror

[boreal quartz]

little bit of mfe check

little bit of jugg check

little bit of sd duration check

[thick kelp]

a lil

god damn its ass

[boreal quartz]

little bit of warning of sd but also in exe

[thick kelp]

can we

remove Sd?

[boreal quartz]

cuz if i only see SD icon i think im not in exe

[thick kelp]

or turn it into reseting cs

[thick kelp]

Too real

I have a WA by @dire hinge that makes the sharpening a blade sound

when boss is 35%

[boreal quartz]

i mean

mine just glows

[visual fern]

Dk hit 622 last night

[boreal quartz]

sd doesnt glow unless im in exe

[visual fern]

No time

Bro it's so cringe

[thick kelp]

I see

[boreal quartz]

cuz i put ep into my exe wa

[thick kelp]

Dopamine when i hear shiiiiing

[boreal quartz]

cuz otherwise icon overload

[visual fern]

I need to do +8s for crests, but I can't get ilvl to get into 8s to get crests

The few keys I did get into I farmed the 620-625 ilvl dps

[thick kelp]

i just moved my exe wa to be lil away

[visual fern]

[thick kelp]

like atroicty style

[boreal quartz]

this shit is also so fun

like gingi has it

had it since DF its so good

[thick kelp]

intrested

just link me your entire wtf folder at this point

[boreal quartz]

i dont have new drums in there yet

!WA:2!DrvZUnsrqy7y(r4dOngiId(WioScbsr5NnzrCaHNe7nlYj2mJHDxuKI7z6AMUjJ7E2U7XjoxG1siXzFNl(aNGlwI7O8emYINGCGhG8eq1ZyViT(GN6NU66R(6QQQDAmQbTb9x)058qPWxMPcHMvwqO)yM2a0tjxVX)RWfBOM0lksdMt(7F5NRKxPcEuritQ6l5ctWrTpBqBVLHszcvELW)kEkm821QTPXaZ1MNHtnkECmO0V)dvRe)DvMgoJmcgoJKPicusFJ3xSZ(hSV6eqj56rZCtKsAccM0pOtMAIJmYXWaNw6ui0OtFqhqrsCoHtbNJvzJ0l6R4JqlEKyi4rpA3DE8HEWyar6jajXWUtNfuO3xbr8R9873UB3P4TLK8uQUUBMGBcstitaLRzsk4zr2EVok)SimQfxCul)bx4pOL3aVcyxFofcqFdWquN0UB)oFx3zzIvfA90njHg(yyqP(Psk8hvUh5pqjijFpYkCP43UlvjJvGwx(O8znRSXmnKevW05VdMcnXGWXaS5iG8Gymk9xUvEZLOAaj8YyLmtq)3LXjYR6OGxMbIWj9FRD2EVdYBQWdzDCR9VJT3dgETPwnlSxgKzmsrVXGcl)5wZDbrSH9rlSYVOSlO6mRYrYeP6BQH)UfFcFYAlSIt(8vNSafdy8WlfynvRiq)qscuZ1kYkm0LJo3SiBUsffuSO8MZSLtH2IYpxO53aV9TRuclYE1QvRD3klJ5AEqcmC9XbSVlDt)xMruGtNSKeNNX4gSelDllbyad4XmZRWEmcTtGbHMWSL3OSedVURTdBR8JR7fMq0ARKRffwH0hGvDRvZifJmS30exWMRkEGSCB(7TisH9j(gK1j1MreytQL(p0tBiktNBbI26TGWF38MUcPawsx9iDHTtuPbCoIQNApAXL2ZDeHl6KFggqEV8(5FBUxEVGiUGRzVP5fCrKuvM163FjaPLZqEwlSLKmdot3l16wJ18RFGDVrkh1V2oBV)EzC6cXtEH5WSFyViVbZnYWXLTUFC1)8V(eo9E3Uo2PaNp3rBBe9UItnSx5rsszKA3xU3OJLiS4pW)iV2TplTbYChTAHbozGacggGLAepUUIlSPayPF46DkdGRnhZ1e89MYu25keXhMF6d9kYz6x9u7yvejeoVfLI(o)za5YwivQpVV8kqviEkq5KZ9TrOppLiWLkQD3wghpLkVO4IgMpOUlsLM6ZT8oVKzMUggdvxVEV4p91vX1IvAOdoy7DF8273y8)88)7p

dude i recently cleaned up

[wanton sierra]

damn interesting, i want that sound xD

[boreal quartz]

maybe i make m+ folder

[thick kelp]

so clean

[boreal quartz]

but rn its only timer cuz i dont have a m+ wa

[thick kelp]

m+ wa overrated

mobs dont do shit on +10

no need to go further

[boreal quartz]

i have a timer

and a reminder to leap last boss ara kara

thats it

[thick kelp]

same

minus the leap remind

[boreal quartz]

i have this ig but i dont look at my kicks

[thick kelp]

information overload for me i fear

on my small laptop screen

[boreal quartz]

goat wa tho

!WA:2!1v1ZVTrru4yzHkYWHwRsOTPawPIiQqXjo0gKqfbzDSvc1nXS29heHW7S7mE3PD3DgnZSXXvIFuleQ3Oyo1dCXNHlwIZiLBCBKf)fK)eYbe3cVzx7avQXh8oZoZ8MVVV337T5QxmQiUi(P3sWsuH0yIy372UX27uBe1Jf3ILi8ixDo3EiF22Bo823jC16(v3Z12JfYeF2wFYF(8N)hNCYj5ZLFmMk5HO(TjhOe7SBPg12O5ezacZ69f72TRKOU6CJrXEbmrtgnw5wT2oTRzpbLOGxTlxrzXYct8ySq4iXT6r5ehEP)xu70LjIqQo8okAez6SC8Z7LivSiZoUlhJueBY(Ky1AjIq(cbkfx(rRSIHaLPSvoLbRSMLHHoducQVpriF7Leth(0lYVqIK0XNaYb1RvaR3UXotEHPhjtFuDkATJrrezHHcseIgtJ9xCTvhHjUjD72UpNi2QwJM1VBJjMWE6EC4fnZrUsMWDlck8ommX5izIBkbAbhMEW4ov3Ov7oTAVHD7bMTNetvowM)DncdrOpp)YZWrPMcMVGiLLEVwCsy41pnAnfeiA2TAwRrJjc4YsxFha2J3IiyuVsniiEkaLZwXzq6WTXYch9FinfL8INsJomGGiftS4T(ylfWw70tn0CcLa59iNHNgXx9YpBys8uDUWs634V1lp0Jf5IuHaWNEDxXA9BEJBOFNdZ4E9n2UrTnp0epQIeLIm98o63uFj97QxAWSxMB8POFBSJEr910NFu10GxQbZFaobGj4YwRs5BMs0uHXGyNJntHmOe5tmjmh9c6RQRuGFbKNIUpPDgInu)xNJVWl1uMnW24nXhdgCIigfEpWzbx5VC8Jie(ga28u2gqemusc7MwiOFn(7F2UCCFWAr96OcG0AaKL77c22Uu)cI(zLvB9Px)K)zo4hy4KiLHKKaRUSy1OAhWnMHEO(I9ZaYRmcme2eFtX2vMxV8eyQlKJ8H6)ySBaH6hOEYHZQcRH9HyfYq4F4iVqKu2bfJnsS382rjHk66)SZp68tocWharGxinRhdcRiWvHcb9DE9NxiZO)IbiWknmWQ2PlygzjPpMKEGxMelNoWkMbvIMedqI1TLkKqvWc8IQcUDHhYGcdm0VfeSkGL10dZLgXzcfFXZwPJy4ogTZzAxRhKjV55lD2NjK4J863PBiJjcg0JjW3xG4dU)0bJPXz7hqAHrIuz3yVSuqOgb5rmnRT3rqxqMzFE3NIvbwBat5V1l5ERuEMkO3ZvsIaH2Us5vlxHFTZgLGjWJAY(5poRbCDbuUyaIBRQ21QTZ4UMx0cQwvO8wpMXIYjEi0vL2TVvJA1BpsX8MAGUuUF73xKINy6wuQ6MLKiWIKMFN1dcksSnYOnkKhGYB3ZWONmeftZeI11FzD9Y69oKGKM7Ke7Rco3KzvNDmfKcjXOoYbM9yaQEplt7M7Px21yPjk93P3t)1Ntpyu610mjus0FJ(B1FvAWnlzMb7ATekE8AIvXRhSD0dV96Gx1WfsG4GSmCUXzj8QPFtlxUC5hbTkj40uX3)6dMvm4WV4SHgrEtQe5gsWbfLU3SCLpS8huC))6b)7p

[thick kelp]

real

[midnight mural]

You saw my BL WA right? 😅

[boreal quartz]

yessir

LIGHT WEIGHT

[midnight mural]

😄

[thick kelp]

yo link

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/bodybuilding-ronnie-coleman-gif-22091241

[wanton sierra]

hey, that last boss from ara kara, if you jump crossing the boss epicenter, you lose your leap... so you need to walk away from boss and jump on the same direction... youu cant cross its center, damn idk if its understanble

[midnight mural]

exactly

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[midnight mural]

dont have it uploaded anywhere but i can send u vid

[thick kelp]

[midnight mural]

is secret

[boreal quartz]

ye u need to leap away from it

[midnight mural]

cant be made public

[thick kelp]

holyy

[wanton sierra]

i died on a 11 xD

[boreal quartz]

my beloved

this saved my ass sooo much man

[vital summit]

but why no leap?

[thick kelp]

its on cd

[icy mulch]

I will say having leap is one of the best things we have. Doing the first boss in GB, we move for the lines. Problem was the orbs spawned way back there. Leapt over, Shockwave em in the nick of time.

[vital summit]

Veng DH have batter leap

2 charges and spawns sigil of boom boom

[boreal quartz]

ours gives movespeed

[thick kelp]

*if talented into

[boreal quartz]

never not talenting

[flat willow]

fuck dh

all my homies hate dh

[icy mulch]

Hell, even DH hate DH.

[vital summit]

the ultimate edgelords

Xxdhillidanxx

[icy mulch]

Funny snippet of a VDH. Stone vault 8, tank is afk in town so we summon him. He gets in, pulls the first two packs and instantly gets vaporized. I have all threat so DbtS long enough for him to get back. I meld agro back to him, he gets popped again. I couldn't help myself and typed, "You were not prepared."

[thick kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/851463475275366505/1240306666298413106/GMCBc-WaYAA2gDd-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[icy mulch]

Lmao

[shadow ibex]

Today is the day

[icy mulch]

Candy wrapper buff day!

[shadow ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042762634539319366/1053485451668901988/20221217_013459.gif

[jagged goblet]

pumped in the last M+ before our buffs

[flat willow]

damn you even had naruto in your run

and Kratos on his hunter alt

https://tenor.com/view/yup-jeremiah-johnson-agree-yea-gif-13040256

[icy mulch]

Nah that's the Temu version, has the h in it.

[shadow ibex]

Can't wait for colo exe phase in raid

[slow saddle]

Ravager and god tier time?

If slayer could play rav id love the spec more

And unhinged could cleave🤣

[silent flame]

Managed to get a 10 done on my way again hyped for vault

[slow saddle]

I got 1 10 as well

Id love to do 3 tonight

But real life will prob fack me🤣

[quasi torrent]

die arms die arms die arms die arms die arms die arms die arms die arms

[vital summit]

begone pest

[devout pewter]

Someones sad we gud

[dull siren]

yap yap yap

[proper atlas]

SO IB EEN WORKING

HOW GOOD IS OUR ARMS BUFF?

someone with more time than me please summarize it for me

will i be viable 😄

[modest carbon]

8-9% good

[proper atlas]

ty

[balmy kindle]

Are the servers up

[wanton sierra]

i hope it takes like 5 hours to servers online... i need to work fack me

[vast hinge]

time to theorycraft the new arms m+ build

which is prob just the colo build existing tbh

[balmy kindle]

No pls I wanna play after work and gym

[hearty granite]

What are the arms stats atm ?

[slow saddle]

Lmk when u find then i can start my collosus arms journey

[olive nest]

Krispy will have the most well cooked arms build don’t worry

Big slappers

[slow saddle]

@fresh spire dr fish cook for us

[hearty granite]

Is it crit/haste ?

[wheat lagoon]

Yes

[hearty granite]

Thank you

What about mastery ?

[fresh spire]

Colossus St hasn't changed as far as I've tried

If you played Fishy build In keys swap sks to bl

:o7

Or bloodborne/massacre if you are feeling quirky

(Bl is the middle ground for aoe and St. Bb better aoe/massacre better st)

[vast hinge]

im gonna try this cleave build

[olive nest]

Them prio mobs going to get the heat!

[gaunt matrix]

BL might be good bc of MS buff

[fresh spire]

Tom spiteful some real elite strat

Don't forget dance of death

[white gate]

Guys I checked the faq and couldn't find a competent execute rotation. is it still execute -> execute -> mortal strike? sorry for the simple question im sure its somewhere

[vast hinge]

spiteful intereacts with blademaster's torment

idk if i can press cleave every global during avatar

[fresh spire]

Insane sweeper

[vast hinge]

will be interesting to try out

might just brick someone's 11 key xd

[fresh spire]

For science

[vast hinge]

one thing is for sur

im gona be doing tank dps

on bosses

[fresh spire]

Delay ravager for end of sweep. Hit some natty collateral crits with the extended sweep

[cyan oriole]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1094721831216353310/MSbun.gif

[uncut scroll]

guys do you play slayer or colossus in m+ atm

[wanton sierra]

both viable, but colossus more fun

[tranquil sundial]

u play colossus cos big number big good

[fringe moon]

Is there a new ST raid build or talents/hero talents remain unchanged?

[tranquil sundial]

maybe

is raidbots updated?

[fringe moon]

What about that MS/BS choice node? With the buff to MS, are we now picking Brutal Finish?

[maiden moat]

do you guys realy go with Duskthread Lining later on ? i think this Embelishment sucks as arms , expecially in Progress or no ?

[slow saddle]

No

Ascdance

Is just easier imho

[balmy kindle]

Seconded, too many unavoidable dmg that can just randomly put you below 80%

[slow saddle]

Yup

[balmy kindle]

Speaking on heroic context too, prolly worse in mythic

[maiden moat]

so Rashan CLoak is our BIS cloak ? or first Boss?

[gaunt owl]

i got dodged

on Cleave

ffs game

[balmy kindle]

Servers up ?

[wanton sierra]

not yet, no one on my btag is on wow

[wanton sierra]

xD

[gaunt matrix]

servers up

[void quest]

They're up

[wanton sierra]

openin wow to check!

[soft sigil]

Does BL change prio at all? Specifically AOE, are we going Cleave > MS > OP with BL or is it just there primarily for rage?

[wanton sierra]

im on loadin screen!!! lets goo

[balmy kindle]

its up holy

shat vault is not updated yet

[wanton sierra]

wait til midday

i mean, 3 minutes left

midday for me xD

[inland tartan]

good morning arms gamers.

[wanton sierra]

damn 2 weaps! i already got myth weap... do you know if that trink is good? 2 min cd ew.... might be pickin the neck idk

[balmy kindle]

never lucky

[cyan oriole]

that trinket sims well yah

[balmy kindle]

just pick neck

[wanton sierra]

yes im considering to pick the big neck

[wanton sierra]

damn that mark of khadros is huge

oh but its hero

[cyan oriole]

mark with avoidance. gloves would be an upgrade too though.

[wanton sierra]

id pick big trink, idk if already got it

[cyan oriole]

using heroic sac and heroic skarmorac so yea probably mark

[gaunt matrix]

as arms(I already have acendence636 weapon)

[astral talon]

Lmao take mark bro

[wanton sierra]

myth weap > crafted weap

[regal wharf]

took da mace

[astral talon]

Fucking HUGE

[wanton sierra]

but i mean, if boots or pants are bigger upgrade you might take, since the dif of crafted and myth weap is not that big

[gaunt matrix]

should I go wild hammer then go double crit on bracer/cloak

[balmy kindle]

i alr have one, also khadros is only good in m+ =/

currently running a combi of mandate and sacbrood hero track

[wanton sierra]

oh, true im a m+ guy so im always thinkin on m+

[fringe moon]

The orator’s trinket doesn’t need to line up with any cds, so the 2 min doesn’t matter

[abstract schooner]

Is the recent buffs reflected on sims yet? or give it a few?

[wanton sierra]

i picked the big neck

[regal wharf]

INSANE MANA REGEN ON NECK

[astral talon]

Thats a small neck

Where mythic

[dim jay]

i keep not getting that neck for prot 😦 did get myth track flesh connectors tho

[wanton sierra]

im not an mythic raider anymore

[astral talon]

Fair

[wanton sierra]

400 haste dif the myth version to heroic

plus stamina ofc

[limber hatch]

is arms or fury better for keys rn

and or raid

[worldly kernel]

what do you have more fun with

[wanton sierra]

true

[limber hatch]

both

depends on how big the MSes are

maybe arms

my main spec is prot actually, and the shoulders have avoidance on them, or should i go for the myth haste/vers weapon

[worldly kernel]

if you're raiding and actually doing progression you can play both they are both viable, fury is better on most fights besides like kyveza and sikran. in keys it honestly doesn't matter unless you're doing like 15's

[gaunt matrix]

arms is crit>haste=mastery?

[limber hatch]

is it a big dps difference between hero and myth weap?

[wanton sierra]

haste > crit maestry

[worldly kernel]

wep damage is p big

[wanton sierra]

yes, our heaviest stats besides str is weap dam

[worldly kernel]

but that's a haste vers

[sharp wyvern]

its the biggest upgrade you can get if the myth weapon is fully upgraded

[wanton sierra]

upper haste tho, im wearing that

[worldly kernel]

you can get away with a crafted wep for awhile

[limber hatch]

maybe crafted haste/crit better?

[fossil thistle]

Sim it

[wanton sierra]

fully upgraded weap > crafted weap

[fossil thistle]

Alwayzz

[limber hatch]

its only 3 ilevel and wrong secondary

[sharp wyvern]

to be clear i was talking about 623 to 639

[thorny fjord]

hi guys im 628ilvl , a Question for vault Choice . "Tricherus Trasmiter Heroic" vs "Head Tier set Mythic with socket" ... Who choice?

[wanton sierra]

our secondaries are kinda the same weight

[thorny fjord]

I already have Sacbrood and Kradros Trinket Heroic

[icy mulch]

Hmmm

[fossil thistle]

Idk how much of a difference it makes in full BIS.
But when I simmed all dungeon weapons at 639 with 2x vers vw Charged claymore 636 with ascendancy + writhing, it was -411 dps difference

(This was at 620 ilvl)

[sharp wyvern]

the weapoin had an embel ?

if so then your data is kinda useless cause you would put the embelishment on somthing else so the dmg of the craffted one got inflated

[icy mulch]

Waiting on sims, but curious is Skarmorak trinket is really THAT much better than MoK. (which I already have on mythic track).

[sharp wyvern]

F

[thick kelp]

if you up the versa lining uptime to even above normal it will win even harder

[wanton sierra]

oh, i didnt simmed it... ive read here that fully upgrade myth weap will be better than any crafted weap just bc of weap dam... they must sim it with fully geared bis idk

[thick kelp]

70% even

[thorny fjord]

"Tricherus Trasmiter Heroic" vs "Head Tier set Mythic with socket" ... Who choice?

[thick kelp]

idk sim

[worldly kernel]

sim it brother

[wanton sierra]

head with socket... its bis so you shall never replace it

[sharp wyvern]

think about what transmitter gameplay is like too

[worldly kernel]

not gonna lie it is fucking ass I can't wait to get rid of this trinket

12k strength is really nice though

[sharp wyvern]

im manifesting mandate

[proper atlas]

the transmitter is a chore

[sharp wyvern]

its gonna happen

[proper atlas]

LOL

[wanton sierra]

are u serious? i want that really bad... for m+

[worldly kernel]

i mean it's ass in the sense that it's annoying to use in keys

[wanton sierra]

15k str is no joke.. imagine demo and fully stacked cleave with it

[fossil thistle]

That’s why you always sim lol

[worldly kernel]

highest demo i've seen with it is around 11k on the first pack of mists

[wanton sierra]

huge!

[sharp wyvern]

and then the little thing you have to stand on is in an aoe

[fossil thistle]

Press spacebar 3x to success

[sharp wyvern]

rip 1 trinket use

[worldly kernel]

also I just ran a sim for weps in dungeons most myth track weapons are a 11k dps decrease

[fluid hatch]

Hey all, noticed that most arms are Collosus for M+, with the recent buffs, do we think it'll still be Collosus or Slayer?

[wanton sierra]

colossus ❤️

[fossil thistle]

I’ve been slayer up to 10a

I’ve debated trying colossus though lately

[sharp wyvern]

ive been thane the last 3 weeks

[worldly kernel]

slayer pre 10 unless you're doing grim batol and dawnbreaker, demolish for anything else

[fossil thistle]

Sitting at barely 6m Hp sucks a lot

[sharp wyvern]

we have less HP than priests bro

[fossil thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230008337517514772/1273720854383165601/dead-arms.gif

[wanton sierra]

you will like it, at first i was slayer too... but colossus is fun indeed

[fossil thistle]

Put us in a body bag

[proper atlas]

boutta do a 10

😄

[fossil thistle]

I’ve been playing g colossus for silken court, and during beta it’s all I did, so I’m not too unfamiliar with it

[fossil thistle]

Honestly if you’re worried about dying, just play IP and dump rage into it

Should still manage 1.3m+ overall which is more then what ya need in a well balanced group for a 10

[fringe moon]

I simmed fully upgraded myth weapon vs crafted and myth weapon was +0.3% better

[worldly kernel]

also another thing you want a shaman in your group it makes a huge difference

[fluid hatch]

Why aren't people taking warbreaker in M+?

[sharp wyvern]

cause haste uptime

IFTK*

[wanton sierra]

damn, rotatin on dummies, 10 stack colateral, mgb avatar colossus runnin... 8M cleave on aoe 627 ilvl

[tranquil sundial]

Really isnt tho, always spawns in the same place and jumping is free

[fossil thistle]

You lose too much ST for not enough AoE and you should be prio target SS colossus smash in pulls

[worldly kernel]

try that in a pack of 15 mobs while you're avoiding mechanics

[sharp wyvern]

just do it next pack

[balmy kindle]

i think most arms mains do ?

[sharp wyvern]

i think he is talking about slayer

[balmy kindle]

mb

[fossil thistle]

(Rotate camera to bait usage)
It’s like the eradication engine (I think was the name?) from legion

[fluid hatch]

Yeah Slayer

[jagged goblet]

Aren't you supposed to take WB for coll M+ builds?

[fluid hatch]

So what I'm gathering is <10 keys slayer is great, >10 Collossus is better because things are alive longer?

[sharp wyvern]

yes

[merry dome]

is slam worth using as filler?

[wanton sierra]

hey, is it better to delay ravager to get all stacks of demo synced up or throw it on opener rotation to get demo faster?

[sharp wyvern]

and this reset coll is even better

[worldly kernel]

i mean you can play both, some feel worse to play on some dungeons vs the other it all really depends but they are viable in all keys

[sharp wyvern]

if nothing else is able to be used yes especially on slayer

on collosus you have to make sure to be able to use MS on CD before pressing slam

[merry dome]

ah ty

[wanton sierra]

sometimes is better not even pressin it

[sharp wyvern]

if thats the case charge weave

[merry dome]

so i should use cleave in single target or no?

[split laurel]

any eta on APL changes and builds?

[kind stag]

Boys how we lookin

[sharp wyvern]

no

[kind stag]

And EB Bl the play?

[merry dome]

ah ok

[dire hinge]

it's silly but it hits

[balmy kindle]

unless u have 12 stacks collat or something no

[wanton sierra]

slam is like 1% better than cleave xD

our slam dam is baked on fervor... i press it rarelly

[merry dome]

hm

[wanton sierra]

with new changes, they are almost equal

[cloud gyro]

probably more dungeon dependent than it is key level dependent

[balmy kindle]

blizzard wants me to play monk

[jagged goblet]

yo what talents?

[wanton sierra]

cleave is 200k and slam is 210k

[cloud gyro]

cleave yoinks overpower buffs from mortal strike

so its bad to press

if it wasnt for that it wouldnt be bad

[wanton sierra]

ye true, nice point, i was about to remove it from my bar

[fossil thistle]

Cleave > MS but you still MS to bait reap procs 😄

[cloud gyro]

yep

[tranquil sundial]

colossus

[grave cedar]

Is raidbots updated with the new hot fixes?

[fossil thistle]

Also, you can cleave ST if you managed to get 15x stacks of incite 😂

[cloud gyro]

i feel like my colossus timings are worse without execute talents

its harder to do setups too with sweeping

[wheat lagoon]

Was hitting some dummies for about 2min, Reap chunking rn

[fossil thistle]

Oh crap I forgot buffs today

[sharp pawn]

i guess never trust Hiyal again xD

[balmy kindle]

POV : gigachad arms main beating clueless fotm frost player

[sharp pawn]

jeah but fk declined my key cuz of him

NW last boss after the telport phase LETS FK GO MID TO BOSS big brain DK

[jagged goblet]

when you said 8m cleave did you mean sustained or from that 10 stack colateral hit?

[wanton sierra]

just one hit...

some crited 8m and some was normal hits, idk how much

thats my question, if i delay ravager i can manage to sync it to trhow the hardest cleave, but on guides says to press ravager on opener, i belive to get colossus stacks faster

but when SS ends, ravager is gone with mgb (that is +50% cleave dam)

[balmy kindle]

my personal pet peeve with MGB in keys is that its hard to squeeze max value out of it

like outside of EB u can probably get 2 cleaves in max

[gaunt owl]

you can go for blademaster torment and have every other GCD Cleave too

[balmy kindle]

is it worth losing the cd on TR

[wanton sierra]

maybe blademaster torment big value now

[gaunt owl]

spoiler alert no 😄

Troar dot too juicy

[summer elbow]

Ilvl and build? Thanks

[cloud gyro]

not worth delaying

sometimes ur ravager lines up, sometimes not

in keys

with blademasters torment u can get 20 stacks of collateral

[wanton sierra]

hmm i see, and we press SS before ravager?

i feel im trhowin cgds away

[granite swift]

is this post buffs?

Today?

[balmy kindle]

yeah i think usually u wanna SS midst charge

[cloud gyro]

on aoe you send before (colossus)

[wanton sierra]

mid charge you would lose troar, wb and ravager cgd, that you coulda be farmin col stacks

[cloud gyro]

for sure, but thats worth depending on target count

[wanton sierra]

when 5 targets pack.. i charge, clap, troar, ava, SS, rav, wb, cleave then normal rotation

when ss ends, i still got 5sec of avatar

[cloud gyro]

sometimes if you delay SS you dont get to stack it up before next pack in execute

[summer elbow]

And when demo

?

[wanton sierra]

qhen 10 stacks ^^

[cloud gyro]

i use an early cleave aswell

[tranquil sundial]

went from https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vSPfAMMARy8LDJvCj81Kwn

to https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6wJymP2mTJtzxKjQmUdqKE

[cloud gyro]

we are saved

[regal wharf]

Hows arms feelin with the buffs

[wanton sierra]

mantainin 5M on 5 targets dummies

[regal wharf]

I would run a key but I gotta do my FF reclears first

[wanton sierra]

ye i need to go to the gym, end the work and only then i can play

[regal wharf]

was it always that much? Is that too much?

Or is it compensating for all the strays we picked up

[wanton sierra]

i was around 3.8M before i think

[regal wharf]

Before all the nerfs or yesterday

[radiant lion]

1.388 to 1.582

seems good

[wanton sierra]

yesterday

[regal wharf]

Uhh

Thats fine

[livid current]

Its debuff affix week though, so yeah

[tranquil sundial]

we are so back

[regal wharf]

[tranquil sundial]

you run any differences in build ST?

[regal wharf]

What do we sacrifice for bitter immunity

[livid current]

NOTHING

[nova marsh]

You don't run it

[livid current]

its a 3 minute cd

[radiant lion]

brutal finish, -45s roar +warlords reck

[nova marsh]

You basically have to let healers deal with it, bitter just isn't worth it

[livid current]

Let us cleanse debuff with avatar

[regal wharf]

So you just trust in ur healer

[tranquil sundial]

how come wlord reck now

[regal wharf]

[nova marsh]

Yeah no if you want a counter to it reroll any other class

Or bring a shaman, but PCT got massacured

[radiant lion]

robot says so idk

[tranquil sundial]

fair enough

yeah its 10k higer for me now too

[livid current]

Didnt they nerf the cleanse totem

[cloud gyro]

bleeds comparatively worse

so makes sense

[regal wharf]

2 min cd

[tranquil sundial]

altho difference between wlord torment and 45 cd is like 1k for me

[livid current]

yeah, thats not enough to hit it all now

[regal wharf]

Ig MW and priests are bis rn

[nova marsh]

Yes it's nerfed. Yes it's still good

And shaman can still clense themselves or you if needed

Evrey time

[livid current]

Im always last 😦

Arms life

[cloud gyro]

raidbots nightly is updated?

[nova marsh]

If you're healer refuses to clense you it's a straight up skill issue

Literally evrey other class has a counter for this evrey time and warrior dosen't. It's pretty basic knowledge evrey healer absoutlely should have

[regal wharf]

Uhhh

[nova marsh]

Okay and rogues and hunters I think

But like

[sharp pawn]

sry was eating

[regal wharf]

Nah rogue has cloak of shadows

[nova marsh]

Cloak isn't up for evrey one of them

But still like

If healers can't understand not evreyone has a clense, it's on them

[sharp pawn]

nope EU server

[glacial moat]

Also can be sure there's another class with a dispell to help the healer

It's not too hard to fix if you're making your own group

[flat willow]

the ret paladins will NOT dispell

[nova marsh]

Trusting a dps to actuall; help?

The rets will not help

Nor will shaman.

[glacial moat]

No. WW monks do because they're chads in my experience

[nova marsh]

Unless they have PCT up

[glacial moat]

Shadow priests consistently did it last time too.

They liked finally using their one utility.

[burnt lake]

so are we running colossus for m+ or slayer? what has the better overall

[quaint otter]

Yes its me

[cloud gyro]

colossus probably has better overall, slayer has better boss damage

[quaint otter]

Always detox people

[nova marsh]

Btw

For anyone worried about BRD loot ending up in ur vault

don't

Dosen't seem it counts

[light vortex]

WW main here can confirm

gotta make up for mid dps

[balmy kindle]

unlucky, buffs are in and boy it is good

[quaint otter]

Skill issue i guess

[balmy kindle]

dw you will get your time, alting WW now and i think they are 1-2 buffs away from being really good

[quaint otter]

Nah cant compete ench/assa at all

[golden smelt]

The WW I've played with have been pumping in M+

[balmy kindle]

Bruh cant compete with the SSS tier classes is not the end of world lol

I mean i am maining arms here so..

[tranquil sundial]

we've been saved tho

[minor gust]

[quaint otter]

It's actually is in a game about numbers

[balmy kindle]

Well if efficiency is all you are about, prot war is the best

never declined, op as f, can play bad

[cloud gyro]

i dont think ur supposed to be able to compete with enhas 20 mil aoe

[kind stag]

Enhas are balanced

So ive been told

[nova marsh]

I mean

You can thou

Because unlike them, we aren't target capped

Enhance just has tempest and like....ascendance and doomwinds that are actually uncapped I think

Evreything else is hard stuck at 5 targets

Or has damage fall off past that

[cloud gyro]

I bet theyre real sad about that while doing 4 mil overall

[kind stag]

Ok im bad at this game but half of frost players are absolute terrorists wtf are they doing wrong

[regal wharf]

Mage or DK

[quaint otter]

Last week monk had uncapped aoe burst due to bug yet wasn't able to do as much as ench

[balmy kindle]

frost dk is easy to play but theres some depth to it

[fluid hatch]

Is the M+ build page updated in the pins? Collossus = Slayer AOE > Juggernaut for ST

[regal wharf]

Frost mages are cool as a cucumber baby

[kind stag]

Mages keep dying and i might be wrong and it was changed but dont mages have insane defensive CDs?

[balmy kindle]

rip conduit bug

[regal wharf]

Uhhh they have decent defensives but their self healing sucks

[balmy kindle]

the meme is that they have proactive defense

[regal wharf]

They have alter time and ice cold

And alter time is tricky to use

[quaint otter]

[cloud gyro]

mages are always very bad players

[kind stag]

Ahh mage players thinking about more than their procs is too much i guess

[regal wharf]

[fluid hatch]

Downside of arms is I have no health for some reason?

4.5M at 615 ilvl

[regal wharf]

I always mass barrier my tank before a tricky pull

[kind stag]

1 weapon less

[balmy kindle]

guildie rocks on arcane but yeah average mage players are pepega

[balmy kindle]

yeah compared to fury due to the lack of another 2h weapon, but you should be fine stance dancing until like super high keys

[regal wharf]

Fury also has more defensives

Does fury get spell reflect?

[nova marsh]

Do you count BT as a defensive?

[regal wharf]

BT?

[cloud gyro]

uhmm technically 🤓 they dont 🤓 they just have leech

[regal wharf]

Oh bloodthirst

[nova marsh]

Fury has evrey defensive we have, just not DTBS and enraged regen is better anyways

[balmy kindle]

yes fury has SR too, but they have more healing + ER

[nova marsh]

Bloodthrist

[regal wharf]

No dont they have smth else

[glacial moat]

The Warrior/monk pipeline needs to be studied. I also alt monk most of the time lol

[nova marsh]

war paint?

[regal wharf]

Ive been mistweaving

[nova marsh]

But we have an equivlant to that too?

It just got nerfed

[regal wharf]

No its a button

[nova marsh]

No. they don't. Outside of enraged regen

Which just replaced DTBS

[quaint otter]

🤝

I rerolled to main monk

[nova marsh]

meanwhile me rerolling to enhance

[balmy kindle]

WW for me is a more fun fury warrior that actually doesnt rely on cds.

Also ST dmg above tanks is nice too

[regal wharf]

Oh my bad

[halcyon gulch]

WW main who alts arms, does the reverse pipeline count

[quaint otter]

^ this is so true

[burnt lake]

gang, how are the buffs feeling?

[quaint otter]

can actually pull some damage outside of 2 min cds

[halcyon gulch]

all you need is strike and numbers go brr

[nova marsh]

Not being reliant on CDs to do damage

Is so damn nice

[quaint otter]

its a slot machine

[nova marsh]

But think about this

maxium gamba

[quaint otter]

like ench but budget

[halcyon gulch]

How so?

[karmic wraith]

what's the M+ talents after patch?

[halcyon gulch]

if you mean SP buffs, thats kinda moot just gotta play around it

[glacial moat]

I like the contrast. WW/MW feels methodical while warrior specs feel so... RAHRAHRAH.

I don't like bm at all though

[kind stag]

I gotta let people cook

[quaint otter]

u either proc million of shadowstrikes and cranes or just sitting in 3rd details row

[kind stag]

EB BL any testers?

[quaint otter]

i do

and im shit

like 1.5kk overall in sv9

[kind stag]

Im shit no matter what

[quaint otter]

620 gs

[balmy kindle]

seconded

[glacial moat]

Yea AOE relying on crane procs feels super duper bad

[kind stag]

Better than me hey

[halcyon gulch]

you mean Chi ji procs?

you can still hit hard without it tbh

[quaint otter]

even more on shadowstrikes that have uncapped

literally can be 10kk diff from pull to pull

[spice prism]

Can someone confirm if Raidbot SIMS doesn't take Exhilarating blows into account even if talented, I havent seen a single back to back cleave

[quaint otter]

or more

[quaint otter]

i rolled fury after and did the same with better st and 20% mastery...

[kind stag]

I wanted to keep playing fury but game said heres all crit haste gear instead

[quaint otter]

can still go fury with it

[kind stag]

Naaaah

[dapper juniper]

what if

i use dragon roar after skul spliiter

does it still synergy good?

[quaint otter]

sks doesnt affect dragon roar iirc

only rend and dw

[dapper juniper]

i know

i mean bleed damage it does

30% damage bleed

when dragon roar

[steep osprey]

Tempest isn't uncapped

[nova marsh]

it's soft capped

is what I meant to say

Evreything else is hard capped

[livid current]

what if warrior utility was uncapped aoe?

[quaint otter]

i mean why would u roar after sks if ur default opener has the roar as 1st button

🤔

[steep osprey]

true CL is hard capped

[nova marsh]

Then we do it horribly LOL

And fury is the aoe spec and it's main sources of aoe are capped

[livid current]

No, I mean thats what I want changed for warrior design

I want warriors thing to be uncapped aoe, everyone else can have thier fancy utility kit

[spark epoch]

did the sweepig strikes execute animation get removed on purpose or is this a bug

[quaint otter]

check it on dummy it should connect

[nova marsh]

then the reality of it all beccomes...we're once again at the mercy of tuning entirely

[steep osprey]

Bug

[nova marsh]

Oh is warrior tuned badly? Well get fucked

[spark epoch]

ok thx

[nova marsh]

damage=spec utility only works if it's conistantly tuned to be good

Which....warrior historically....isn't tuned to be a meta spec

and even with a rework giving us a shot at the top, I'd doubt we'd actually stay there

[balmy kindle]

rather be upper mid - mid than top

[kind stag]

Im fine not being meta but dont let me get gapped so badly blizz

[balmy kindle]

top specs always get gutted

[kind stag]

Warrior above mid is bad for blizz sorry

[nova marsh]

i MEAN

We already DID get gutted

[balmy kindle]

yes ik, happy we got buffs this time

[kind stag]

Next week nerf

[nova marsh]

could've been worse

we could've just been CN levels of bad for the rest of the patch

[kind stag]

Painge

[quaint otter]

[balmy kindle]

i was playing aftershock arms then

[kind stag]

I just wish they leave classes like warriors alone like go touch giga OP or shit specs but leave the rest

Idk why they gonna tune random shit sometimes

[nova marsh]

I mean to be fair

Fury on launch was ridicious from what I've seen

[quaint otter]

or buff to nuts the rest too

[kind stag]

Balancing is the only thing in this game that actually gives me a headache like i constantly fear

[balmy kindle]

how, i think it was fair

[nova marsh]

According to blizzard

[kind stag]

First 2 nerfs were deserved hell ill take 3rd

[nova marsh]

Because nerf fury is literally a meme at this point