arms

[boreal quartz]

good ol sl fob

would actually work there

[solar quarry]

Actually wouldn’t be bad 😂

[thick kelp]

shame they had to change fob

to mandatory 2T

[solar quarry]

I kinda like BFA fob

[astral talon]

Shame they didn't give us aftershock

[steep osprey]

fob change is so stupid

[astral talon]

Aftershock on ovinax oh my god

[steep osprey]

First strike when

[astral talon]

Unironically sl design would be goated on this tier xD

[solar quarry]

First strike man I miss that

Holy fuck

Renown 40 NF actually was fun

[daring heron]

idk man

bad raids happen

looks like us yesterday

[random ridge]

dying to aggro every single pack

[solar quarry]

Critcake do you think you’ll play arms on Nexus next kill?

[astral yarrow]

as my old rl always said

"thankfully we can just pull the boss again 🙂 "

[wanton sierra]

hey good morning! this week is an huge week... buffs and bis on vault!! must believe!!

[summer elbow]

yo crit.. will fury be better for m+ or arms is ok? If so arms will keep being collo and fury MT or slayer? Thanks man and sorry for tagging you.

[misty yew]

do we cleave ST with buffs

I get big crits with MBG, and collateral dmg sometimes

[daring heron]

dunno

https://tenor.com/view/cooking-cook-chef-masterchef-lilb-gif-13910066

wait for chefs to cook next week then ask again

[sacred zodiac]

the liveleak logo goes crazy

[daring heron]

it does innit

[thick kelp]

Colossus will be owning next week

and so will Thane

[wanton sierra]

i belive that slayer shall be ST king and colossus mm+ option, and for fury thane m+ and for raid st slayer... idk better wait for chefs indeed

[summer elbow]

thanks crit.. i was at work when i read the buffs and i couldn't wait to get home to watch your video XD

[wanton sierra]

yes! we got some cleave and ms damage... demolish st damage... pressing demo on single target feels wack

single target they mean first 2 strikes?

DN gettin buffed, maybe become viable, instead str in arms

[thick kelp]

DN buff kinda redundant since colossus will be alrady dealing massive AOE with cleave getting the 20% buff

[wanton sierra]

now with cleave gettin buffed, arterial bleed loses value

[daring heron]

cleave was already hitting rly hard with one against many + other cleave talents

[thick kelp]

the 20% is a silly amount

to give to cleave

[daring heron]

going to get some stupid crits with collateral stacked and mbg

[vital summit]

Could something like this work on reset or is it too big of a bullshit?

[thick kelp]

Too big of a bullshit

Try this and swap SoA <> DN

however u feel like

[wanton sierra]

you wanna rend and bleeds, and bloodlettin... i know our bleeds is not big dam but its there

[vital summit]

damn... I really want to get rid of sks/rend ;_;

[thick kelp]

well

if u see on the build i posted

no sks

[wanton sierra]

and rend is automatic on 35% hp... very easy to manage

[thick kelp]

Fishy did some APL magic on friday and got blord to sim better than sks

[vital summit]

https://tenor.com/view/endgame-avengers-hawkeye-clint-barton-dont-give-me-hope-gif-15254733

[daring heron]

lord and saviour honestly

arms more tolerable without sks

[wanton sierra]

this is what i run, when i want more prio target or single target focused i swap blunt intruments, str in arms and arterial bleed, i drop 1 bb point to sks too

ops, the part of sks is lie, i drop EB for sks

[thick kelp]

sks simming bigger even tho in 5min 5T fight it pressed it 6 times overall as a last chance filler xdd

such horrible situation

[vital summit]

just make sks into passive / bake it to CS or something

I can tolerate rend

[fresh spire]

Sks has no place in my key build. Die sks dieee

[astral yarrow]

Im 🤏 this close to dropping whatever i have to for 2/2 deft and blord

[fresh spire]

I wouldnt mind sks if it worked like old and you basically used it like a nuclear bomb to kill important shit

Just feels crap in keys other than bosses

I've dropped sharpened in slayer for deft

It's little less damage but the procs on op and tier feel way more satisfying

[astral yarrow]

really looking forward to no opportunist ST wednesday as well

[fresh spire]

(Also tier isn't that bad if you send it on one stack)

[wanton sierra]

agreed, at least you could see the skill doing something, now i press on rotation coz it give 15rage xD

[fresh spire]

I mean before execute its pretty powerful. In execute in slayer execute just goes way too hard

[astral yarrow]

pressing sks for 0 rage gain is a feeling

not a good one

but its a feeling

[fresh spire]

I just send it. Mostly just not Care

[wanton sierra]

i dont even mind if its swept xD

[astral yarrow]

if no ms, no opportunist or rend refresh i just send it

preferrably before CS

[fresh spire]

Same shit with execute procs. Feel the prio on it is a little demanding for something like kyvesa where downtime for lines/ orb baiting just fucks sd up

[livid cloak]

This is the build I'm looking forward to after tuning

It should be strong and fun

[fresh spire]

Got 13 stacks before first intermission other day

Then it fell off

[astral yarrow]

I lost a 12 stack jugg carried from intermission 1% before 35%

then almost wiped the raid with a "you dont have leap" death and we killed it that pull

👍

[vast helm]

agree.

[wanton sierra]

hey big sean i did some 11s, but i did not did great on keys, so i was embarrassed of my results to share xD

[livid cloak]

[wanton sierra]

cant reach 2M gang

[livid cloak]

Same, my best overall so far is 1.8w

1.82

I did finally get a 1 mil prot run though

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1055276743675621407/1300113128301920327/image.png?ex=672050f4&is=671eff74&hm=e5ec484491be06b531e7dae1a2a0ae7e3c659f4178e7804559b4528eed06590a&

So i can check that off my list

[wanton sierra]

i did 11 mists with aug, i got like 1.80 or something

[livid cloak]

Nice

[wanton sierra]

at least i got all 11s

was missing GB

[livid cloak]

Mists always feels good until you get to tredova

Then it lasts so long your overall tanks lol

[wanton sierra]

yes we need this buff, our demo 15% better on single (is it the 2 firsts strikes they mean?) 15% ms, 15% op

[astral yarrow]

pull stuff onto tredova and its much more fun

[wanton sierra]

i rather that! packs close are easy to deal with, not the wasps, the lil tredovas

[livid cloak]

I failed 4 12s this weekend, feels bad. Just not good enough yet

[astral yarrow]

idk, the poison nova shit they randomly put onto those worms along with insta ticking puddles is kinda sketch

[livid cloak]

Pugging 12s has been very tougb

But i feel like I'm close

[quasi torrent]

depleting keys is part of it

[livid cloak]

Yeah

Running all my own

So it takes time, but I'm gonna take a break for a bit and go again in a week or so

[fresh spire]

FAURK

Moment

[astral yarrow]

frantically spamming execute key hoping for miracle SD proc

[thick kelp]

Real

Very quilty of this

[boreal quartz]

i do this

misery

[runic tartan]

honestly imo the main issue of arms is MS having way too many modifiers

somehow makes the button feel giga useless

[boreal quartz]

correct

[tacit crystal]

every time i bs im mashing my execute key praying to god

or when my jug is falling off every global is followed by execute praying

[tacit crystal]

i was 1 global off of keeping my jug 🙂

[vital summit]

Jugglenaut

[warped ether]

It should stay on you for 30 sec tbh

[thick kelp]

Even 20

Would never drop

[slow saddle]

2mins

Like fatility

[thick kelp]

Then we play Jugg in keys

noo

[vital summit]

It should have never been created in first place

or it starts with 15 stacks, removing one stack per execute and reseting all stacks after xy time of not using execute

reverse juggernaut

[worn iron]

fix arms 👍

[hazy saddle]

delete arms 👍

[worn iron]

1% rng pull

[vital summit]

rework to legs 👍

[fresh spire]

So fucking sad

[quasi torrent]

u dropped it

therefor bad

[worn iron]

yer

[ripe quartz]

The wise unga bungas don't know yet if there will be any rotational/talent changes for st after buffs?

[fresh spire]

Rotations remain mostly same for arms. St has a little mix up for battlelord having some priority in colossus when rage is half to try prevent starving in key build. Mostly unchanged.

Fierce follow through becomes worth taking if you have enough crit in slayer replacing opportunist checks with 2 charges as a check so always using op when 2 charges above 35% and only using overpower 2nd charge when half rage in execute/ rage starting in execute for single stack
(Opportunist scales harder in aoe so fierce would mostly be a st thing if your gear has enough crit)

Colossus 2 target had some change which likely will be reflected in wowhead guides eventually

But nothing to major

(Mostly just overpower soa/dn checks added)

[wet prawn]

seems that majority of the people here are too lazy to check all the posts moderators create and are investing their time into, and then you get like two weeks spam of the same questions like rotations, stat prio and shit after every single class tune

[thick kelp]

correct

[limpid snow]

I'm not home to check rn. Does cleave do more damage than slam in ST with the 20% increase?

[wanton sierra]

you are correct!

[tacit crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/muzeke-gif-27066381

[wanton sierra]

i dont know either, but it might! the problem is consuming OP stacks

[limpid snow]

I didn't even think of the OP stacks. I was just hoping to take slam off the bars 😭

[wanton sierra]

i feel you brother, i hate pressin slam!

[opal kelp]

Hey Guys, Colossus aims on crit?

[neon niche]

on every secondary yes
sim urself

[shy dagger]

i got the heart of roccor from brd, its siming higher than some trinks

[ripe quartz]

Thanks for that detailed explanation 👌

[shy dagger]

even if its pretty low on blood mallet

[tacit crystal]

if the robot says to use it use it

[sterile trout]

How can we change the bloodmallet talents tree into ours to sim more optimisely

[dim basalt]

Dont use bloodmallet, ever

[naive sage]

Pin this

Krisp goat

[sage badge]

Krisp owns

[rich flower]

is there any pi sheets still? updated?

[halcyon breach]

Priest discord has a sheet, it should be fairly regularly updated though with how often specs are getting buffed and nerfed right now, I wouldn't put too much weight to any sheets

[gaunt owl]

PI is bad for us sadly

[rich flower]

i think this from ulriar is correct right

[rich flower]

yea im pretty sure it is :[, looking for my guild

[halcyon breach]

A safe pick typically is hunter and mage

[rich flower]

we have 2, im thinking of sending it in a bm and a enh

[halcyon breach]

And UHDK as well if you have any

[rich flower]

or maybe 2 bm's

[flat surge]

Are the tuesday changes gonna be pushed to any version of simc before servers come up tomorrow?

[halcyon breach]

They typically are when they're live on NA

[lunar acorn]

Arms

[halcyon breach]

Though rarely (afaik) get pushed earlier than that, since they're not actual

[flat surge]

thanks, does anyone have the overrides? Can't find them in this channel.

[tacit crystal]

what does that mean

[gaunt owl]

when NA is up tomorrow you wont need it anyway

numbers gonna make us middle pack

[fresh spire]

We like middle of pack for pi. Not to great. Not an awful target

[flat surge]

I wanted to sim myself more than anything

[tawdry girder]

Arms gonna be viable for m+ after Tuesday?

[vital rune]

Managed a 95% ilvl parse on a guild heroic Court last night that lasted 7+ minutes

[gaunt owl]

#Fury
override.spell_data=effect.738696.ap_coefficient=2.14038
override.spell_data=effect.230085.ap_coefficient=2.409814
override.spell_data=effect.831435.ap_coefficient=202.7945
override.spell_data=effect.267757.ap_coefficient=1.424423
override.spell_data=effect.267761.ap_coefficient=0.8309136
override.spell_data=effect.296642.ap_coefficient=1.0683167
override.spell_data=effect.296644.ap_coefficient=1.899238

#Arms
override.spell_data=effect.486196.ap_coefficient=2.292851
override.spell_data=effect.5274.ap_coefficient=3.657792
override.spell_data=effect.2780.ap_coefficient=2.028692
override.spell_data=effect.800084.ap_coefficient=0.3473184
override.spell_data=effect.357.ap_coefficient=1.721304

#Colossus - "single target damage" sounds like it doesn't affect the third hit
override.spell_data=effect.1135042.ap_coefficient=2.5614755
override.spell_data=effect.1135045.ap_coefficient=2.5614755

#Slayer
override.spell_data=effect.1142515.ap_coefficient=3.335
override.spell_data=effect.1143165.ap_coefficient=2.8546875

#Thane - could be one of two effects, but probably close enough
override.spell_data=effect.1181948.base_value=95```

[fringe moon]

arms was already viable in keys unless you were pushing really high...

[devout pewter]

Like any specc really

[slow saddle]

Wasnt rly though

Viable to be carried yes

[flat surge]

awesome! thank you very much!

[gaunt owl]

Arms was viable the time it took the meta brainrot to take place

[halcyon breach]

Overrides basically allow you to specify how much damage abilities do, so you can simulate changes before they happen

[gaunt owl]

and then the cycle repeat itself

[tacit crystal]

ty banezi ❤️

[tawdry girder]

Nobody gonna take arms warr over ret tho

[tacit crystal]

true

[daring heron]

override my details

[tacit crystal]

i reject every warrior in lfg ><

[halcyon breach]

I can override it and make you do even less damage 👍

[tacit crystal]

gm critcake

[tacit crystal]

[daring heron]

damn

[tacit crystal]

thats fucked up man

[halcyon breach]

I am simply just spiteful

Nothing more

Experienced the very fun 8 mill Enhance burst on 1st boss mists today

Compared to my 3 mill burst

[fringe moon]

yeah, ret is busted. But if all you're doing is 10's, then you can run your own key or hopefully your io and ilvl are high enough to get in

[daring heron]

yeah very fun to watch groups kill 1st boss mists in 16 easier than my team can on 14

[thick kelp]

It was a +17

sorry

[halcyon breach]

Yeah I watched Dorkis group be in the maze near 2nd boss with only 15 min spent

In a +17

[daring heron]

i didnt watch the 17 so didnt want to make assumptions about their run

[halcyon breach]

They then proceeded to spend almost 3 minutes on the dragon because it healed for almost 200 mill prob

[daring heron]

should have brought an arms warrior

[gaunt owl]

this dragon is a curse with that healing pool

[halcyon breach]

So true

[halcyon valve]

this tbh

[fresh spire]

No cap

Think colossus and thane will be really solid in keys next week

[gaunt owl]

fun part both spec got nerfed in AOE because of this raid tier but spec that do uncapped bullshit madness are still ok

[regal wharf]

like what

[flat willow]

I'd guess unholy dk

[gaunt owl]

FDK has some abilities too

they just made balancing stupidly inconsistent since they made some ability have hardcap and softcap

everything was broken in legion because everybody did uncapped dmg

[shadow ibex]

Wish they would just sit down and talk about warrior what our strengths should be etc. Why they are so fixated on us being a 5 target class. Like what's the quality in that, how does it make the game more fun etc etc

P much wtb developer notes

Some transparency

Why does sweeping need to be on gcd even if half one

[gaunt owl]

One day we will understand why Fury is hardcapped on WW and still not the best class on 5T

[gaunt owl]

i blame BFA

[shadow ibex]

Yea shit like that

If this were any other class sweeping wouldn't exist or would have 17 QoL things attached to it to make pressing it feel good instead of I raised my sword

[gaunt owl]

they could double down on the sweeping and make it glorious while you sacrifice a bit of ST

make it for 2 target with a choice node for 3 with a downside

use rage to use sweeping strike and have it basically no cooldown

[finite spire]

while we're there, ask them why Mage has every piece of utility on the planet and Warrior has... shockwave?

[gaunt owl]

could use rage to enhance our ability instead of the stupid spending stuff they cant figure out

[finite spire]

a niche example: we need to pop Avatar to get rid of roots. They can take a talent that makes their little bubble shield do the same 🤷‍♂️

[fresh spire]

Dump all rage. Shock wave hits entire dungeon

[gaunt owl]

shock wave renamed to earth quake

[fresh spire]

Make shockwave usable for dps in colossus

[gaunt owl]

everybody get stunned even the server

[fresh spire]

Shits got damage amps on the cleave node

Make it chunk

[sharp pawn]

hey got a question should i use demo in a ST boss fight on cooldown or should i wait for the 10 stacks ??

[fresh spire]

Send it on pull after cds and ms

Reset doesn't matter you just send it

Saving it for Cs vs saving is equal damage

Though an argument could be made for holding it for a short time for warbreaker

[untold pewter]

Maaaaaaannnn if they just did this one thing (get SS out of gcd) I'd be happy for months

It's the worst button press imo

Just feels horrible

[fresh spire]

At least it was reduced from .75 of a gcd to half

[steep osprey]

yo fellas

how is it

btw

do we still wait for 10 stacks of colossal might to send demolish on aoe

or just send it immediately since fix

[wanton sierra]

nice question, idk

i think wait til 10 stack

maybe they shoulda buffed the stack of demo... like instead of 10% its now 20%... so demo can 3x its normal dam

[sterile trout]

I definitely don't like bloodmallet

[sterile trout]

8stacks or higher, if you're into your colossals strike

Best is 10...

[devout pewter]

Is bloodmallet even updated anymore? Any time I looked at it(which the last time is already couple years ago) it always only had the titles updated, but the data was the same

[fresh spire]

If you are playing dreadnaught build you send it around 6+ stacks. If you are playing soa prioing ms>op you send it on 10 stacks

Though depending by eb luck may push that to 10 if 2 cleave resets

[sterile trout]

Demolish is sadly fcked up spell tbh, slayer feels more soft, and median overall, can get a better overall from slayer in 11+

[steep osprey]

more what

[fresh spire]

Nah colossus owns

[steep osprey]

what do you mean by soft

colossus > slayer

[sterile trout]

Colossus is fcked

[devout pewter]

Colossus owns

[sick gazelle]

Smother power curve maybe

[sterile trout]

Yes neus

And you're better in st on bosses

[devout pewter]

I love going from 500k dps to 2m+ in the blink of an eye

[sterile trout]

I got you,

[fresh spire]

Just hit 8m on 7 targets in colossus instead

[sterile trout]

Yeah, but that's a spike krisp

[steep osprey]

spikey

[fresh spire]

Nah colossus has much better sustain than slayer

[sterile trout]

Truly spikeyy

[devout pewter]

Who needs St dps if you drop trash dead in seconds? 😄

[sterile trout]

Trash have HP in 11+

[devout pewter]

Let other do the st

[sterile trout]

Also bosses

Tbh Wednesday you'll see that slayer is even better than colossus, got more rage overall than colossus,

And more execute procs

That's 2 schools

[fresh spire]

You onky rage starve in colossus if you actually play like shit and never use overpower

[boreal quartz]

colo fun

[flat willow]

or if you're in execute phase

[fresh spire]

Colossus is insanely more fun

[sterile trout]

Depends who's playing yes

3weeks into colossus, now back to slayer

[fresh spire]

Purely as slayer bladestorm is the worst feeling in the world

[sterile trout]

Krisp have you seen beyblade

[flat willow]

bladestorm is fun

[fresh spire]

I have. But those bayblades are fury

Not arms

[sterile trout]

It is

So narcissist bro

[flat willow]

bladestorm is an arms ability

[sterile trout]

Yes it is

Whatever

Everything good

[fresh spire]

When one well played cleave with Colateral damage does way more than bladestorm

[sterile trout]

It does more spike DMG

True

Demolish really demolish

[sharp wyvern]

whats the rest of the aoe on slayer

[fresh spire]

You understand cleave in colossus hits over 3m when you crit rn

[flat willow]

you can have cleave and collateral AND bladestorm

[fresh spire]

Imagine that shit next week with 20% amp

[steep osprey]

3.3m

hmmge

[sterile trout]

I'm gonna try both anyway

[fresh spire]

Colossus is going to explode next week

The cleave buff was too much

[sterile trout]

True, also slayer

[sharp wyvern]

but what if its multiplicative

[sterile trout]

Both are 0p mate

[steep osprey]

multiplicate dn

[fresh spire]

Slayer has less cleave multipliers than colossus

[sterile trout]

Arms are op

Send raider page krisp

[steep osprey]

legs are op too

[fresh spire]

Google me you will find it

[sterile trout]

Even neck

[steep osprey]

buttocks too

[sterile trout]

There is many krisp

What server you on

[boreal quartz]

RAHHH 20 mil cleave

[fresh spire]

When you hit demolish on ovniax and it hits 45m

[sterile trout]

Are you on draenor ?

[fresh spire]

Ye

[boreal quartz]

Luce andy

[fresh spire]

Hope you like my grays on last 2 kills

[sterile trout]

Yo raider is trashcan :0

[fresh spire]

[sterile trout]

But dope raid prog

I think you enjoy more the raid than keys

[fresh spire]

Nah I like keys

[boreal quartz]

wait there logs for new raid

clown shit

[sterile trout]

Who's under top 100 Arms world boys ?

[fresh spire]

Just my guildies don't play keys and cba to pug

[steep osprey]

sure it's not 4 and 5 m

[sterile trout]

I only do pugs bro, getting 2700 this week easy

[fresh spire]

Nah total 45m

Like on all the adds

[steep osprey]

oh okay

makes sense

[astral talon]

Bladestorm boring

[sharp wyvern]

only on all start points

[sterile trout]

You play slayer or colossus in raid prog ?

[sterile trout]

Wym

[astral talon]

We talking raid or dungs?

[sharp wyvern]

the thing that matters least

[sterile trout]

Raid prog

[fresh spire]

Everything at moment just playing what ever the fuck I feel like. But likely will play slayer on council prog

[sterile trout]

Boring

[flat willow]

https://tenor.com/view/bladestorm-bladespin-blade-storm-spin-gif-14323769

bladestorm is iconic

only a true orc can appreciate a good bladestorm

[sharp wyvern]

imagine if you crit more of them

[sterile trout]

We'll have work to do, enjoy guys

[astral talon]

Bladestorm is boring

Hands off keyboard

[sterile trout]

How'd you get that blade storm bro

[astral talon]

Miss me with that shat

[steep osprey]

shit head

[fresh spire]

My gear sucks ass rn for colossus need like 12% more crit

Just fun to play for memes

[golden smelt]

32 world currently, 1st on server & I'm not a great player, just no one is playing arms 😂

[sterile trout]

Teach me

[sharp wyvern]

need mandate for collossus sadge

[sterile trout]

Nice !!

Congrats

[fresh spire]

Look how cool this is compared to our bladestorm 😦

[boreal quartz]

mandate goes HARD

bro colo + mandate in mists

end 1st boss at 3 min

[sharp wyvern]

havnt seen it drop

[boreal quartz]

i have 3

on hc

[steep osprey]

you know that's gonna be a channel

[boreal quartz]

2 from weeklies 1 from vault

[fresh spire]

If man can spin like that and swing surely he can walk

[sharp wyvern]

i need to get benched so i can have more than 1 heroic raid slot

[steep osprey]

[fresh spire]

I dunno why that makes me think of urgot in league

[golden smelt]

Has anyone ever managed to get in a key with more than one warrior 10 & up?

[boreal quartz]

i did a 10 with 4

week 1

[sharp wyvern]

had plenty of prot warriors in my keys

[golden smelt]

Nice, I want some of that action

[boreal quartz]

ive done tons of x5 war keys in df

but thats not rlly possible yet

in 10s

[golden smelt]

NA/EU?

[boreal quartz]

eu

[golden smelt]

Sign me up next time

[flat willow]

If I designed slayer, you could still pick ravager but instead of a shitty weapon spinning it would be a mirror image of you doing a bladestorm

[fresh spire]

Intervene dbts rotations

[flat willow]

sadly blizzard isn't ready for such ground breaking design

[fresh spire]

[golden smelt]

Keen to do some 4 warrior keys

[slow saddle]

Yeah warrior magic!

[flat willow]

that's not magic

that's you being so fast that you are at 2 different places

[slow saddle]

Sweet

[flat willow]

thats weeb shit

not magic

[slow saddle]

U are a slaya!

[boreal quartz]

Erga Soda unfortunate gege philwar key...

[dapper juniper]

can some one explane rotation of skull spliter

should i use rend before and after>

single target

[astral talon]

give me aftercock

[slow saddle]

100% choice node spear or shocl

[astral talon]

ye

that would be the best

[lucid glade]

guys, you think that on raids ARMS Collossus will be viable after the buff? i think it has simpler rotation and is easier to pivot to for tank mains i think.

[astral talon]

slayer will be superior

[lucid glade]

yeah that is probably true. But it also kinda elevates spec in complexity? im wondering if i will be able to pull more dps on collosus than on slayer due to it being easier?

[rancid solstice]

If you’re making less mistakes playing one over the other then yea you’ll probably perform better.

[golden smelt]

I was just typing the same thing

You'll also get some nice demolish & cleave padding on fights with adds

[broken arrow]

Playing what your better at is sorta kinda optimising

I played frost mage with incanters flow instead of rune of power when that was a thing and dps was still good.

[livid cloak]

What are you doing, heroic or mythic?

I got some 99s this week doing colossus in heroic. It's perfectly fine for that content

Next week colossus will be ahead of CURRENT slayer so it will be more than adequate for end mythic bosses also

[livid cloak]

Same deal as earlier, just nobody playing arms lol

Cropped in that nice fury ranking too for fun

[sterile trout]

Op

Also grinding, omw to reach you

[golden smelt]

Similar deal haha

The amount of arms doing +12 is crazy, they're almost non-existent

[livid cloak]

Yeah, and a lot of the ones i see just have 1 or 2 ( mists Ara kara)

Hoping next week with the buffs will see more arms in the 2800 to 3k range

[golden smelt]

Yea same, good luck breaking in to the 12's I'll hopefully be there with you!

[hushed wren]

did this patch introduce arms bugs that decrease dps cuz i've heard something about that but cant find it anywhere

[wanton sierra]

are we flexin? xD

got few keys

we seem to be good but there is 20 ppl playin arms, so the position 18 is not that bad xD especially when you compare with an meta class that there is 200000 gamers

[sterile trout]

You're a beast

FCK the meta guys

Keep grinding

[wanton sierra]

we are brother, all arms are beasts! ultimate respect

[sterile trout]

Yes zugzug

[old urchin]

Arms isn’t bad it’s just not fury. I love surprising peeps in pugs.

Hopped into a friend’s key last night and he told me when the run was done “when you first joined the other two were like “wtf is he doing?”

[wanton sierra]

ive beem removed from group coz im arms

"holy fuck bro that guy is insane, tryin to break my key with that shitty class!"

[sterile trout]

Let them talk

They're ignorants

[wanton sierra]

wait til we get buffed

[old urchin]

Tomorrow. Tomorrow we show the world.

[sterile trout]

Even yet, they'll trash talk, but we'll be first in details so w'e

[ebon arrow]

hey is anyone free to just answer a few questions in dm real quick?

[wanton sierra]

ill reach this titan... let me be more free on my work

[astral talon]

noone taking me for +12s 😦

[kind glade]

Anyone ever tried Spiteful Serenity (instead of Anger Management)? How did that feel?

[strange perch]

poor

[vague nova]

If I’m napkin matching in my head right, Ithink anger management makes the CD low enough you’re near the same uptime anyways except there’s no damage reduction.

[shadow ibex]

It's just worse version of AM

Longer and weaker CS when AM lowers the CD so uptime is the same and no dmg malus

There's some cook on mythic council but its pretty niche and doesn't make it a non-dead talent

[livid cloak]

When I've made my own 12s getting lots of 630 2800+ apps

Still can't timr

[teal fossil]

Serenity is 26/45=58,am is 13/30=43

[livid cloak]

Nobody gonna take a 27xx arms lol

[glacial moat]

They hard man

[teal fossil]

The vision for this talent was a really big test of might

But it didn’t workout that way

[shadow ibex]

is it a cata charge next week or nah

tmrw i guess

[high fulcrum]

anyone has wa that keeps track of lethal blows?

nvm found one

[finite wasp]

I tried it a few times, it's not good. may as well use AM for now.

[wanton sierra]

today i finally stepped on a 12, we broke by few seconds, dawnbreaker

i mean, we wiped on last boss and ppl faked dc xD so its not registered

was doing around 1.4... huge ret pally doing 1.8 and balance doing 1.5

i was playin with special care, dancin stances and all

damage is heavy

[wanton sierra]

no one invites... its like work, they wanna ask recent formed young ppl to has like 5 years of experience xD

[finite wasp]

yeah because apparently wow is a second job

[livid cloak]

I've taken arms warriors 3x when I'm tanking and it's been a letdown each time

So I don't blame them tbh

[finite wasp]

i mean if you are pushing high keys ur basically asking for this to happen thats fair

[wanton sierra]

by archon we are the last dps spec

[finite wasp]

but like to getting into a +10 is already a job on it's own and its complete cringe.

[finite wasp]

yeah see we're trash these buffs are warranted for us.

[wanton sierra]

maybe after buff we can reach 2M gang

even with aug i cant reach it xD

[finite wasp]

yeah def possible

were not gonna be op but were atleast not gonna suck

[wanton sierra]

nightfae war right there, i liked AA

[livid cloak]

Most augs are trash tbh

[finite wasp]

dont invite augs to 10's

they're either complete trash or god like

[livid cloak]

Occasionally you'll get the Aug where it feels like they just dropped the key 2 lvls

But it's so rare

[finite wasp]

tru

[wanton sierra]

chronowarden or scalecomander is the good one? i got an aug friend that says its cronowards

we should team up xD get @astral talon @livid cloak me and big chads to carry us 3 arms, 1 healer and prot chad xD

to do 12s

brown power

💩

[astral talon]

Are we all eu?

Triple arms all 12s would be an amazing piece of content tho thats for sure

But maybe post buff xD

[livid cloak]

Na

[wanton sierra]

wa thinin about that! no one wants us so we team up and get dungeons done (on our dreams)

NA

[austere hamlet]

I’m down for some triple arms keying after reset. Stick it to the big man

[wanton sierra]

ill try to form group this next week

[glacial moat]

Our zugging shall know no bounds

Previously unheard of levels of Zug

[astral talon]

haha

[jade cargo]

what is going on in My Channel?

🤔

[regal birch]

wdym? we will go from giga trash to decent trash

[finite mantle]

[jade cargo]

@wanton sierrai come here to check did u get to top 10 arms

if not - go do some dungeons

[bright whale]

Changes/maintance is among us very soon

[wanton sierra]

not yet old warrior soul todu

im slacker now xD

[jade cargo]

wheres my legacy - u all are weak

cant rest in peace

[golden smelt]

Id also be keen to get in on this

[wanton sierra]

we shall assemble some big guy on yt to video this xD like critcake, deswind, biz

[golden smelt]

Haha

[finite mantle]

too real chiche

[golden smelt]

We should try and run a NA & EU triple arms run at the same time next reset, let everyone get in on the fun

[bright whale]

took me like 3 hours going from 8>72 from doing TW dungeon with exp bonus

as arms

[sick gazelle]

in a group?

[cobalt sinew]

didnt we eat a big aura nerf at the beginning of the expac

[vast helm]

i remember we got MS 15% nerfed and OP 20% nerfed before the patch 11.0 start, now just give them back to us.

If I remember correctly.

[mint patio]

Yeah aura was nerfed, but they added damage back to a lot of the spells individually. So it was basically a net 0 change overall.

[slow saddle]

Those hurt

[dim quarry]

lol I can't break 1.2 overall, probably that's why I can't time keys -_-"

[smoky berry]

any items worth buying from the brd timewaking raid

like trinkets and so on

[glacial moat]

I dont think theres any standouts for us that compete with mythic level gear

[glacial moat]

They have the items in droptimizer on raidbots, could run a quick sim

[smoky berry]

true ty

[strange perch]

ARMs bros not like this

[livid cloak]

This plus the buffs, we're so in for 12 plus now

[vague nova]

Anyone see the affix nerf? Free 90 seconds on timer

[livid cloak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055276743675621407/1300566732100079647/tempFileForShare_20241028-170739.jpg?ex=67214ea8&is=671ffd28&hm=4184274173da247e99685ac50da28987d38e08bfb6ebe1fd80b1649e3e366056&

[vague nova]

Yeah those 😂

How much easier does this make 12’s for pugs. Feels like the challenge was still mostly completing the key in general

[livid cloak]

For me it's was the time

Consistently making it to the last 20 to 25 percent of the dungeon, behind a little on time, forces bigger pulls then group wipes and gg

So this should help a lot

I would have a 12 sv and a 12 mists timed with this change if it was live 2 weeks ago

[vague nova]

Hadn’t considered this

[livid cloak]

Maybe a 12 cot. We got to the last room with 4 mins left, had to double pull the big trash to try and time

Wiped

At 5 30 left you just pull 1 at a time, much easier

[vague nova]

W from blizz for once then

[livid cloak]

Tbh I wish they'd just drop the kiss curse at 12 and leave it be without the 10 percent add but

I don't think that will happen

[golden smelt]

I don't understand why they didn't just do that in the first place. Less work on their end too, it doesn't feel right to have a big road block early on, that should happen gradually as you push higher

[astral talon]

12s kinda easier than 11s tho

Withou affix

[summer quartz]

can't wait to pump with colossus tomorrow.

[sterile dawn]

yall going colossus or slayer in m+ next week?

[slow saddle]

Kek

@smoky kayak can u correct

Are we gettin 9? Thought it was 6.5

[wanton sierra]

holy smokes, 9% is big number

[gaunt owl]

numbers were there all along

[wanton sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-carell-wow-yay-omg-really-gif-15731645

[summer quartz]

colossus buffs baby!

[wanton sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-tailor-giant-brave-little-tailor-yawn-gif-25269068

[past abyss]

Any build changes with the new buffs?

[nimble yoke]

what might be a good talent to replace skullsplitter with?

i'm afraid i'm gonna lose way too much STby doing it

i'm playing colossus in M+ with the build on wowhead

but SkS feels like i got too much bloat

[icy mulch]

Battle lord isn't bad, but SkS is a decent button.

[nimble yoke]

yea it just feels like too many buttons lol

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-shrug-love-lucy-okay-idk-gif-1377867919013175885

[minor gust]

if you dont want to use sks battle lord or massacre is fine

[livid cloak]

Battlelord gains value with the changes tmrw

[icy mulch]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to tinkering with Arms again.

I know it won't be meta, or strong but at least I can use my haste/crit tank gear with it.

[summer quartz]

does colossus prefer haste/crit or crit/mastery?

[edgy solstice]

crit > other 3

mast seems to consistently be slightly higher but all loosely the same

[vast hinge]

What’s the play gonna be in 12 keys on reset?

Colossus or slayer? I assume colossus for higher aoe?

[edgy solstice]

yeah but jugg will make a comeback too

[vast hinge]

Can you even fit jugg into a colossus build

Or is that giving up too much

[edgy solstice]

slayer jugg

colo jugg is bad

[vast hinge]

One thing I think though is we’d never press slam

Cleave will prob do more damage than slam in all scenarios

[edgy solstice]

was kinda already the case but using mp on cleave for st is a nono

[vast hinge]

Ah I forgot about it consuming stacks

Fuck

That’s why my boss damage is tank tier

Been practicing colossus arms in keys this week in anticipation for next week and I’m barely above our prot pally in 10s in damage

[dire hinge]

that's no good 😅 yeah arms should be definitely higher than that

[rocky terrace]

dang i was hoping to find a pvp section

[dire hinge]

#pvp ?

[rocky terrace]

oh it was minimized

my b

[dire hinge]

all good! have fun and good luck in there!

[edgy solstice]

colo aoe is already p decent. you shouldn't be doing tank dps

maybe on bosses if your tank is juiced and you're still practicing

[dire hinge]

usually high numbers can be a tank diff (ie: they're not pulling big), but if the tank is catching up to you then something is off

[edgy solstice]

that as well. you can go from doing 1.2 mil overall to 2 mil overall without changing any gear or skill input on your own end simply bc the tank is gaming

[unkempt tundra]

are the buffs significant? is arms in a better spot?

[edgy solstice]

we won't be dead last in dps anymore

[nova marsh]

Well

U probally still will be

If you play with good players on better specs

[edgy solstice]

nah i can't imagine arms being bottom when this goes live

[bright whale]

"Timewalking Dungeons Buffed - Up to 66% More Health"

[nova marsh]

At least we can outdps tanks now

LES GOOO

(This is a joke)

[icy mulch]

Anyone have a link of the "theory crafted" M+ Colossus build?

[edgy solstice]

there's like 5 diff theorycraft builds

but it's really just juggling around 3-4 talent points between sks, mbg, blord, bb, de, massa

[dire hinge]

look out, things will live for 15 seconds instead of 10 😂

[icy mulch]

Fair, and nothing is set in stone. For all we know we might find something else after it goes live.

[edgy solstice]

arguably a good thing that the talents are tightly tuned like that bc you can build diff for a specific dungeon

no ep/massa for db. jugg for grimmy b and city, etc

only glaring thing to me already is everything was buffed p much, besides dots

and people were already dropping sks sometimes

i was often dropping a point or two in DE but i doubt i will anymore

[icy mulch]

Hmm, just looking up Arms warriors on Raider IO. Seems most of them are all playing fury in their highest keys done. Or mostly played Prot.

Is there any full Arms main in the top 20-50?

[shadow ibex]

cleave tm is gonna be so hot

i cant fuckin wait

[livid cloak]

Top 20 to 50 warriors? No

[wanton sierra]

15 stacks of col dam, 2 stack op, 5 targets cleave, avatar, mgb and warbreaker runnin... big omega crits

[livid cloak]

But you can filter to arms only

[icy mulch]

I did and Gucci comes up, but most of his keys are done as Fury.

[livid cloak]

Where? Raider.io?

Can just filter by arms score

There's one guy running jug slayer in 13s and 14s

Everyone else doing colossus

[wanton sierra]

who is that juggernougt legend?

[livid cloak]

I think his name is

Peepeestrike

Lol

[wanton sierra]

that guy is from my healm

he is not even runnin jugger... i mean, slayer has strong st... never tried it on 10s or 11s

no mgb no battlelord

[wanton sierra]

i shall log off in front of target dummies just to rotate it rq when it launches

i mean when server is up

[vague nova]

If you play slayer and just go almost full pad your ST is still higher than Colo and you do not have low slayer aoe. It’s a noticeable drop off in ST doing that but also noticeable increase in aoe.

[fringe moon]

Do we have a new raid ST build for tomorrow where we take BL?

[icy mulch]

I mean, Slayer doesn't really get a ton out of Battlelord really. Or at least not as much as slayer.

[opal kelp]

Hey guys on m+ u run warbreaker with colossus?

[unreal mountain]

@icy mulch i am rank 16 World and can tell you, arms is terrible compared to other classes but on wednesday gets a lot of Love. I playd only Solo pugs and was hell. 0 Invite to keys

[minor gust]

if you want more aoe you can

[opal kelp]

Yeah, I was thinking how good overall would be that , since we always have tyrannical

Most of guides say not to go warbreaker, just with colossus…but dunno how good that is 10+ keys

[icy mulch]

I mean, that's not a surprise. I'm stuck in Prot jail, creeping my way to 2700. I just want a DPS setup for fun.

Arms just has better optimization for tank gear.

[unreal mountain]

@icy mulch yeah, i tested out DK. I was 2720 Rio in a couple of houres with 600 Ilvl. This game is a joke and i get 0 invites with 630 to +11 keys xD

[opal kelp]

Hope to see some love after tomorrow

[icy mulch]

I feel ya.

[brazen otter]

do i need to be arms or fury to get safe a 2h weapon from a drop?

[opal kelp]

Arms

[icy mulch]

I keep trying to build an actual push team, but I just don't have the time to commit. Or able to find people that play around the same time.

[subtle ravine]

Do we know, with the Mortal Strike buff coming through, will 'Fierce Followthrough' and 'Brutal Finish' from Slayer be worthwhile picks in this tree?

I know Mortal Strike buff is huge for Colossus, but I'm curious if it'll shake up the Slayer choices

[regal wharf]

they say to always list ur own keys

but then you wait 90 minutes and dont end up filling

[livid cloak]

Man you can fill keys in 5 mins

Idk

It doesn't take long

[vague nova]

I sat in lfg for 20 minutes the other day and 1 602 dps applied to my 9

Most times it is faster

But you still get some shitty droughts

[nova marsh]

Brutal finish should be worth it on pure ST now

The reason why it wasn't run before was it was bugged and did literally nothing

[unreal mountain]

yeah the 50% Damage on Mortal Strikle after bladestorm is big. Better then 10% Bladestorm IMO for pure Single

[subtle ravine]

Wait is the fix on BF true now? Or on reset?

[nova marsh]

Brutal finish has been fixed for a while now tbh

[subtle ravine]

...sick

[nova marsh]

bout a week

[subtle ravine]

I haven't played since last Tuesday, so it's possible I missed something

lol

(he said not believing it at all)

[vast hinge]

It only takes that long if you are waiting to get carried

Like if I really wanted a key timed I’d list my 12 and wait for 4 others with 3k+ IO signing up

Had a 3200 Io tank in my 13 NW last night

The difference is night and day compared to your usual 2900 tank

Guy was a prot pal and solo’d like 80 of interrupts in the run

The 4 of us other than him combined for 60 interrupts lol

[crimson steppe]

I wish Unhinged just worked with sweeping strikes -_-

would be yuge

[brazen otter]

and at the end, he was the orb user and 90% of interrupts was not from him :>

[terse osprey]

I hope arms gets some buffs soon

[nova marsh]

I mean

we are

To0morrow

[shadow ibex]

[balmy kindle]

Tonight"

[summer quartz]

won't have to wait long.

[terse osprey]

Well thats good

[minor gust]

gotta sand bag for some more

[quaint otter]

murlok io has only like 30 armses

[wanton sierra]

50 arms!

coz im 46 xD

[balmy kindle]

Playing PvP in 2024

[granite swift]

Hi guys, does anyone have a current colossus m+ build I can practise on?

[heavy crown]

is wowanalyzer just bugged for arms warrior? it seems to just not be able to detect execute casts and I was wondering if any other parts of it were messed up

[dire hinge]

wowanalyzer is extremely rough for arms right now, i wouldnt' put much stock into it atm

but yes, im seeing that it doesn't detect Execute casts correctly too, looking over it

[nova marsh]

I don't think current arms's rotation is actually maintained on wowanalyzer

That site has been....rather poorly maintained for a lot of specs.

[shadow ibex]

demo on skarm

not a single hit crit

[grave cedar]

Do priorities and talent builds change at all with the buffs tomorrow?

[inland sandal]

anyone have a rotation video recommendation to watch?

[random wasp]

mmm..mm...am i tripping or does arms have way too many buttons to press

specially in multitarget

[nova marsh]

Play enhance and tell me that

Altough yeah we're a little bloated

[random wasp]

i played enhance a bit in df...never more

[nova marsh]

But tbh like

when you get it down, arms is just a piano spec.

Really arms is only bloated because of shit like TC and rend being seperate buttons, slam....existing

[random wasp]

i enjoyed playing colossus on silken court, felt good

[random wasp]

skullsplitter existing...

[nova marsh]

SKS should die

In a fucking fire

[random wasp]

but i was hitting the 5 target dummy and it felt a bit much

[nova marsh]

Really I wish they'd just make TC a talent that turns rend into TC for arms

When you like

hit 2 targets with ss or cleave

[random wasp]

ooh, that would be nice

[nova marsh]

Or 3 with cleave would be more accurate, 2 can just be handled by SS

The only diff is you'd cleave first when u hit a pack

and we already want to cleave early into a pack for DW anyways

[brisk flower]

what talent builds have u guys tried out?

every top rio arms warrior seems to play something different

[vast hinge]

I much preferred when sks was instant

Atleast it had some uses to burst prio or use during ‘damage amp’ phases

Now I press it and it’s just like whatever extra button

[quaint otter]

Dunno sks didnt feel bursty even then

[teal fossil]

it feels bursty if you had numbers on

[teal fossil]

the main problem with old sks is that theres an indirect cost of making your next MS weaker

which was really weird

because MS doesnt apply mastery for itself

[summer shore]

sks is a shitty talent

[hazy gyro]

What trinks are BiS for keys tomorrow

[quaint otter]

🔮

most likely arakara shit + mark/transmitter/skarmorak

[rare kite]

that and having as much rend duration beforehand and you have to reapply it after

[teal fossil]

ye

it was rotationally awful

still good burst though

it was like the best totem killer in the game

3 gcds and you just pop any thing

[full widget]

Should make it a passive cooked into MS or OP

[teal fossil]

yeah

then you get balanced around it

and really make your MS hit like a noodle

a button tax allows the ability to be somewhat stronger

[summer shore]

bitter immunity is a shitty talent too

they should really buff it

3 mins cd lol

[teal fossil]

bitter immunity is fine conceptually

just underpowered with cds

[bright whale]

did they buffed tw dungeons ?

[thick kelp]

@boreal quartz can u translate mage -> warrior

[tacit crystal]

no?

[bright whale]

65% more hp now

[tacit crystal]

thats for timewalking

not the war within?

[bright whale]

typo

sorry

[tacit crystal]

if you have 2 nether preceison (talent) 0 aethervision (talent) 0 clear casting, but get cc after first

then im lost

idk if arcane barrage or blast is Ab or AB

oh well

oh

its ArcaneBlast

Abarrage

🙂

then lsat part is ab ab missiles abarr

?

@boreal quartz

[vague nova]

Gio deserves something just for that attempt

10/10

[steep osprey]

LMAO

[tacit crystal]

was it close

surely

[steep osprey]

yeah it is correct

[thick hamlet]

happy arms day

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[vague nova]

Just checked wowhead it was perfect

[tacit crystal]

i miss arcane 😦

[azure sable]

I think with the new ansurek changes and balance changes this reset, maybe arms is THE warrior spec for ansurek?

[hexed saddle]

heroic ansurek

[azure sable]

2 waves of webs more separated = less webs because inmune, no need for burst aoe. Second phase is more about cleave and third well, there's some aoe but BS can be enough

ye

HC ansurek

I know, heroic, go with whatever if you dont kill the boss its not because an spec

[hexed saddle]

fury still just better for p3

[vague nova]

Everyone misses arcane until they play arcane

[hexed saddle]

but heroic at this point is kind of a joke for anyone in a half decent raiding guild

[vague nova]

I cry when my guild got AOTC last Thursday

[hexed saddle]

6 weeks of ilvl + 2 stacks of finery

[vague nova]

But I was also top 3 dps as fire mage

[azure sable]

I'm talking about optimizing MY dmg xD

[lusty creek]

so are we good now?

[tacit crystal]

nah its fun but i cba gearing a 4th character

i need a vendor

[silk spade]

rude

[vague nova]

I more meant it as the burst windows in hindsight are fun as fuck until you have to deal with mechanics during 90% of them 😛

[atomic mountain]

jo guys. silk HC.... do i go cleave Raid build or ST build and use sweeping on cd? i kinda cant do dmg to adds cause they explode within 2 sec in my raid

[torn rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267940564832354304/1286260904736067658/heart-locket.gif

[thick kelp]

play the normal raid build but you can drop a point from bb or sks to grab long sweep

[minor gust]

Feel extra spicy grab blade masters torment

[atomic mountain]

fair point. but what loses me les dmg to dropp bb or sks?

[thick kelp]

bb is less of a loss

but I hate sks

[atomic mountain]

i hoped sks cause i hate it too XD

but thx mate. will change it for next week silk 😄

[tranquil sundial]

wtf wclogs removed my 100 on sikran 😦

[mint shell]

It needs to be 100 in 24 hrs, prolly someone outparsed you same raid night

[tranquil sundial]

no

We had a rogue

my broods also removed

[mint shell]

Well

Unlucky

[thick kelp]

pepelaf

[sharp wyvern]

Blame your rogue for exploiting then

[astral yarrow]

pretty sure the rogue abuse reset is removed from wcl

[tranquil sundial]

all gone?

[astral talon]

Koffie

[sharp wyvern]

Look at statistics and youll see

[astral yarrow]

idk if they are gone or just not counted

[astral talon]

Never trust a rogue

[tranquil sundial]

no, frick rogues

[mint shell]

What does sks abriviation stand for?

Skullsplitter or?

[tranquil sundial]

yee, all the logs that had an outlaw are removed hehe

other ones arent

[thick kelp]

yes

[mint shell]

Tnx

[astral talon]

[tranquil sundial]

ahh we're so back tonight

its a good day

i wont be till tomorrow but yes

[sturdy juniper]

hey guys, does anyone have the talent build for the Arms Colossus MT 5Tar sim used in the updated sims for the reset?

[lavish jewel]

Hi, I m new in Retail and also in Warrior. I'm looking on all the guide I can find to improve my knowledge. Is the secondary stats order really important? (haste, crit, etc.?) Or should I not focus too much on this.

[astral yarrow]

you should equip item level and only when you have comparable item level pieces, think about the stats

and when i say "think" i mean you should simulate it on raidbots if you care enough

[lavish jewel]

Okay thanks

[livid cloak]

Copy the wowhead 2t build

Its very good

[livid cloak]

Please don't fall into the secondary stats trap like 90 percent of thr playerbase

Take higher ilvl

[solar quarry]

Strength >>>>>> crit/haste/mastery/vers

We are strong

Before we are fast or precise

We are strong

[tranquil sundial]

Is the ST build changing anything post reset?

Maybe different node

[mint shell]

just flat dmg % buffs on core spells, i doubt anything is changing with slayer ST but demolish ST stocks might be up

[lavish jewel]

got it

[mint shell]

what's less DPS loss? drop a point in Dexp or BB in a Deep Wounds/Cleave focused m+ build with SoA (not Dreadnought)

[thick hamlet]

US bros, how's arms doing

we're still in the past over here

[silent flame]

Nothing like running a dungeon the realising I did it wrong

But I had a blast

[pulsar elk]

resets not for 4 hours

[thick hamlet]

ah that explains why simmin on raidbots hasn't changed my values yet

[astral yarrow]

BB is more aoe and deft is more ST

pick your poison

[astral yarrow]

raidbots will have a banner at the top when the buffs are pushed to master

[thick hamlet]

ah so is there a way to sim the new stuff?

[silent flame]

Also
Getting back into warrior has opened my eyes back to how fun SR is

[thick hamlet]

maybe using "latest"
?

[silent flame]

I still remember upper khar as a prot war

[astral yarrow]

you can do overrides for spell data, but for the laymen, no, not right now

[thick hamlet]

laymen yes indeed quite

[astral yarrow]

green banner wil say something along the lines of "october 29th hotfixes updated" or some shit

[thick hamlet]

u mind explaining to a newb what laymen is

[astral yarrow]

uh, common folk, people not in the know

google it i guess

"laymen's terms" is explaining something in simple terms

[thick hamlet]

gg noobs

[silent flame]

Did…

You just give the laymen’s term for laymen’s term

Legend

[halcyon breach]

I can do the overrides but Aagaard can't since he's a noobmen

[boreal quartz]

echt und wahrheitsgetreu

[bright whale]

w/e i give up trying warriot to 600 gear keep failing t8 delevs

[boreal quartz]

tried prot?

[bright whale]

Cant play HIGH APM class

[boreal quartz]

macro ip into thunderclap

its dogshit for minmaxxing but saves a lot of APM

[bright whale]

i just cant play it too fustrating

[boreal quartz]

in what way

[bright whale]

Everything too overwhelming

[boreal quartz]

the rotation of arms or prot?

[bright whale]

Both

[boreal quartz]

biased POV since ive been playing em for a long ass while

[bright whale]

W/e im done with this class

[boreal quartz]

but if you play arms and solely focus on pressing mortal strikle off cd

youll do fine

[boreal quartz]

cuz you cant do a delve cuz you arent used to it?

💀

[bright whale]

No caise i play lock

[boreal quartz]

i dont see how playing one class prevents you from playing another

[bright whale]

carpal tunnel does

[boreal quartz]

i mean all 3 war specs are gcd locked

if you struggle with that they might not be for you unfortunately

[astral yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1298369463153987614/kO1CS.gif

[bright whale]

though on spriest though (cause do like playing as dracthyr)

[astral yarrow]

are you a scalie

scaly?

[fresh spire]

Macro ip to shield slam

If you force a reset it auto casts

[bright whale]

Yes im a scalie

[thick kelp]

rare proc in Arms chat

[astral yarrow]

scalie gang (i havent race changed yet)

[thick kelp]

usually this kind happens in fury

[silent flame]

Tbh I struggle to play arms too, ik prio lists are literally top to bottom but still

[astral yarrow]

a furry scalie

hmmge

[thick kelp]

idk

pre execute arms is

very scripted rotatio

[boreal quartz]

you rlly just hit dummy

[silent flame]

Yea but I ask people and get different results so it makes me confused

[boreal quartz]

until u do it right

who are you asking xdd

[silent flame]

Friends I know who have played it this expac, people here, wowhead guide

[thick kelp]

dont listen to people you know who have played it

I wouldnt trust anyone here either

Maybe wowhead guide

[silent flame]

Fair tbh

[boreal quartz]

i cry

sobbing

[thick kelp]

sorry phil

I only trust your shaman related answers