#arms

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steep osprey
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demolish damage should be increased by 50%

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don't @ me

manic stirrup
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silken

steep osprey
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btw what's the name of the colossus tree dot talent

tacit crystal
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replace demolish with searing axe

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artierial bleed

manic stirrup
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i overcooked broodtwister on the pull we killed

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LMFAO

tacit crystal
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xd

steep osprey
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I think they should let us have both Arterial Bleed and One Against Many

tacit crystal
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i gotta see the cook

manic stirrup
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here is what i used

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do not use these talents

tacit crystal
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💀

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yeah

manic stirrup
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just play ravager

tacit crystal
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it would be turbo strong

balmy kindle
tacit crystal
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like

boreal quartz
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man colo with blord

manic stirrup
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fatal mark is complete beans

boreal quartz
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would be so cool

steep osprey
tacit crystal
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maybe

steep osprey
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but it would help a lot with sustain/st

balmy kindle
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Fatality critcake

steep osprey
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especially arterial bleed

thorn pelican
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no bs or ravager is a cook for sure

steep osprey
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they did the same for shamans

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there was a choice node for stormbringer

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and they made it a nonchoice node

manic stirrup
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sikran just wowhead build

tacit crystal
manic stirrup
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2 people beat me by 20k dps though

tacit crystal
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xd

manic stirrup
steep osprey
manic stirrup
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locked as 100 fuck it tho

steep osprey
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this should be critical strike chance

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instead of damage dealt

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or both

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why not both

tacit crystal
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should be

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50% 50%

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so we dont get sniped

steep osprey
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or both 25%

tacit crystal
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nah

steep osprey
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Crit and damage

tacit crystal
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50

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fuck 25

thorn pelican
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fuck it mske it crit chance crit damage and damage

tacit crystal
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id be down

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for 20 20 20

steep osprey
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lmao

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40/40/10/10

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@boreal quartz

thorn pelican
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and make it also execute mobs below 50% hp

tacit crystal
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@boreal quartz 🙂

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xd

steep osprey
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stop

thorn pelican
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and uhhh 50% movespeed

flat willow
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that way when you don't crit demolish you really wanna jump

steep osprey
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I just wanted to show him the 40/40/10/10 meme

tacit crystal
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and make the mob explode

steep osprey
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it was a thing in df

flat willow
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(off dalaran)

thorn pelican
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and 50% jump height

steep osprey
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when you use demolish

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you jump high in the air

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then slam

flat willow
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but it just casts slam

thorn pelican
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and your heroic leaps also cast demolish when you land

tacit crystal
steep osprey
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it's basically warbreaker actually lol

tacit crystal
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arcane

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ARCANE

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ARCANE

steep osprey
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ARCANE ??

thorn pelican
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would be kinda cool if colossus had some heroic leap interaction

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thematically doing big crunchy leap would be neat but probably ass for gameplay

formal meadow
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Is arms putting up bigger numbers than fury in keys on average?

thorn pelican
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if u actually had to use it rotationally

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uhh most of the m+ pushers are fury

steep osprey
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Fury still clears arms in m+ I think

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especially as thane

thorn pelican
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not that arms doesnt work tho

formal meadow
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Is that the same in raids?

boreal quartz
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holy i did sim dps

formal meadow
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Ig depends on the fight

thorn pelican
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usually arms for fights with no adds

steep osprey
thorn pelican
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fury for any fight with adds

steep osprey
boreal quartz
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idk some dog ninjad

thorn pelican
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i think fury wins on silken cuz of the pad adds

boreal quartz
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@manic stirrup

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BRO

steep osprey
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well, if it's pad it's not useful

boreal quartz
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LOOT CRIT

formal meadow
boreal quartz
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DOGSHJIT

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FUCKING
AWFUL

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GAME

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AAAAAAAAAAA

manic stirrup
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eta gg

boreal quartz
manic stirrup
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play better

boreal quartz
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deolish also 9 %

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10% more

formal meadow
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Looks wildly different from mine... got profile you can share?

flat willow
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press your buttons harder

boreal quartz
steep osprey
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i wanna play arms colossus in st raid

boreal quartz
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details is lying

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HUHH

manic stirrup
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when demolish normal hit bigger than demolish crit

flat willow
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AHHH THE PARRY

manic stirrup
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is when you crash out

steep osprey
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where's demolish

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oh it's 4th

formal meadow
boreal quartz
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idk its still a small

boreal quartz
steep osprey
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so colossus ST is like 500k worse than Slayer ST?

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not that bad tbh

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can play colossus if u want ig

boreal quartz
manic stirrup
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i hit a 17m on silken

steep osprey
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phil, you prefer colossus or slayer?

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I assume colossus lol

boreal quartz
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i prefer df arms

steep osprey
boreal quartz
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i want blord and aoe clap

manic stirrup
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crit transmitter pot cs spear damage amp gg

steep osprey
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blizzard when arms is bout to use blord

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+10% execute buff

boreal quartz
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suuurely

steep osprey
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what about 45s TR

boreal quartz
steep osprey
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shouldn't that be better

boreal quartz
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worse than reck

steep osprey
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than spear

boreal quartz
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this is hard locked

steep osprey
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F

manic stirrup
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spear only (maybe) better on silkem

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silken

steep osprey
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spear better on all colossus

manic stirrup
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roar might be better

manic stirrup
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roar does like 30-40k more dps than spear on its own

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not including spears damage buff

boreal quartz
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colo still cant pick this cuz it simply gets less sds

steep osprey
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don't use ravager clueless

boreal quartz
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and needs 2DE

manic stirrup
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i always picked that over 2de

boreal quartz
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hm

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i try

manic stirrup
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but its interchangeable last time i simmed it

boreal quartz
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sims worse forme

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like 0.89%

manic stirrup
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think they simmed within 1k dps

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so i went with highroll crit option

steep osprey
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I find it funny slayer arms got a bigger buff than colossus arms on st

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that's scuffed

manic stirrup
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this was a while ago

steep osprey
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so Colosuss st is 3% worse than slayer st?

latent hull
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LETS GOOO

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Buffs

boreal quartz
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ms>demo forsure

steep osprey
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is MS finally gonna do damage?

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or have some prio in ST

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for slayer

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I know it's probably really good on colossus because of the talent buff

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they missed 5% MS buff

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from that nerf a while ago

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gimme back my 5%

boreal quartz
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but idk if ull fix exe prio nr

steep osprey
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5% ms will fix this

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they should have buffed execute only for fury

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and more than 10%

gaunt owl
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Demolish is such a fake ability

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the Taerar world boss fucking knocked me back while using it

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clown game

steep osprey
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he did a funny

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tomfoolery

ebon folio
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half the mechanics that do a suck in also move u during it

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fake and dare i say gay

boreal quartz
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COLOSSUS RAAAAAAAAAHHHHH (normal is fake)

steep osprey
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playing colossus prebuffs?

boreal quartz
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yes

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i need normal for flightstone

steep osprey
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yeah i need a lot of that too

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been slacking on warrior

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nerfs will do that

chilly isle
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Does anyone know if there is anywhere to look at execute sim comparisons between specs?

remote ledge
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I thought colossus was spam MS on cd. Maybe I need to read the guides again or stop fishy build

smoky kayak
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not in Execute it's not

boreal quartz
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colossus doesnt actually impact ur rotation a lot

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beyond adding the dumb spell

remote ledge
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I was then playing poorly 👌 I'll read everything once more

untold pewter
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Wondering if this will put Colossus ahead of Fury for Ovinax
Not sure if you can get cds back for every spawn

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Has anyone here been progging on Colossus?

steep osprey
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probably not

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fury also got buffs

remote ledge
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I do not prog but arms also is way less bursty, by time you start doing damage fury is already over

untold pewter
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Yeah makes sense, I think for that damage profile slayer fury stays on top

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Perhaps mountain thane now

steep osprey
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For Ovinax?

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Slayer still has the fast burst so idk

low elk
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how far behind is mastery from crit in arms? if i swap from fury to arms with mastery haste gear am i gonna be gimped or will the difference not be too big from crit haste gear?

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like will it be viable or will it be more like dont bother until you get crit gear?

steep osprey
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I don't think the stats difference is big

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obviously it's quite better with crit/haste

zenith dagger
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U also still want a decent chunk of mastery

steep osprey
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but it's not like unplayable

rare bane
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We actually fetting buffed???

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@low elk I find mastery is doing well for me in m+ and sims well in aoe

low elk
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hows your rage generation with low crit?

rare bane
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I still have decent crit/haste so its not a problem and since its packs I alwats have rage but my st is low in comparison but im doing 1.4/1.5 on average overall

low elk
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slayer?

rare bane
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Colo

low elk
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ah nice

rare bane
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I dunno if we will go slayer after the buffs

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In M+

steep osprey
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unlikely yeah

low elk
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i was most hyped to play colossus before launch but how often that ability whiffed for me while leveling and in heroic dungeons kinda made me trash it. gonna try it again

remote ledge
astral talon
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Its mad fun in m+ and good on ovinax

astral talon
balmy kindle
cloud gyro
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are we saved

steep osprey
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perhaps

untold pewter
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Ok this made me second guess myself

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This is no longer a thing right?

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The free mortal strikes from unhinged don't cleave with SS right?

untold pewter
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Ok just needed to double check, this was in the wowhead guide

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So essentially colossus is basically send everything on cooldown ratge

low elk
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this part is fun about colossus

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this part is not

quaint otter
untold pewter
quaint otter
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ye i only managed to pull like 1.2kk with 613 arms keks

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had 1.5-1.6kk with 610 ele pre 11.05 :kekl:

boreal quartz
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I did 1282 on colo

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Today

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But that's a short ass sikran

quaint otter
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arms owns

boreal quartz
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critcake slayer does 1. 4 there

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For sure

quaint otter
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new mm does up to 2kk ExcitedBlushette

steep osprey
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Surely that's not going to be liek that next week

astral talon
low elk
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🤏 ?

boreal quartz
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I hit a 6.5 ms today on worldboss

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Ty colossus

dusty depot
astral talon
boreal quartz
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Funny autocorrect

boreal quartz
manic egret
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Do blizard know about sweeping strikes animation bug?

boreal quartz
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Id post on Forums forsure

manic egret
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Idk what u have to do to mess animation...

boreal quartz
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Tbf if you look at the patch

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Loads of shit broke

manic egret
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hopefully warrior get rework and new animations like sp and ele got(cause idk they reworked almost all other specs already)

boreal quartz
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I mean the new wawi exe is neat

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I like ss Animation

manic egret
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idk

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I love classsic one

boreal quartz
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Doesnt rlly need much

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Im just glad condemn is gone

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Ngl

jovial oriole
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is colossus or slayer easier to play?

boreal quartz
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Colo roots you

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Defo slayer

jovial oriole
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But I have to time when to use my execute procs right?

slow saddle
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I had rly hoped a patch note pushing col above slayer🤣

boreal quartz
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U dont want sd to run out

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You want to consume marked for exe 3 stack asap

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You dont want juggernaut to drop

jovial oriole
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Cries

boreal quartz
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If any of those apply u press sd

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That's rlly it

jovial oriole
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Weak aura mandatory then...

boreal quartz
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Itll help

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Colossus doesnt need was

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Press it when it's back

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Donezo

astral talon
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Collosus gives you size increase

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Collosus wins

jovial oriole
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If there's even 1 instance of the self root pull immune being useful in m+

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I'll play colossus

astral talon
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Lmao

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As if it muttered

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What matters is dmg

boreal quartz
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It works on all knockbacks

void dragon
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does it work on dark exile in wake?

boreal quartz
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No idea

remote ledge
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I see a few people running these kinds of builds as slayer on the ladder. What do you think? This could scale well with the buffs next week of reap of the storm

sacred zodiac
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i found out about the hunter thing yday..

astral talon
sacred zodiac
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i think they just have condemn lol

astral talon
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Lmao

fossil thistle
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Y’all ready for Tuesday and wednesday

quaint otter
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Wednesday

steep osprey
tranquil sundial
mortal crag
flat willow
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what

wild kernel
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Do you just send execute immediately on slayer single target?

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Or wait for marked for death to stack up?

flat willow
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how do you have 5 less keybinds as slayer

icy mulch
mortal crag
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:3

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i just be spreadin stuff

boreal quartz
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u just drop demo

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u keep sks

ripe quartz
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Does SS takes you into account for those 8 yrds or your target?

fresh spire
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looking a little into fishy key build

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SKS dies for BL

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ST and aoe gain

steep osprey
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HOLY

fresh spire
fresh spire
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Prioity remains the same

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cleave ms op

steep osprey
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do you have rage for execute critcake

remote ledge
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Why is alchi dissing your build

And 2nd, I have a madman idea for you fishy

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The same build but slayer, goal is spamming cleave and ms to fish for reap of the storm procs

fresh spire
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potentially a thing now with the buff to reap, not sure, ms kinda stinks in slayer

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ill eventually get around to it

remote ledge
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Keep us in touch, thanks

grave delta
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Is cleave in ST fishin for reap more value then slam🤔

visual fern
fresh spire
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pad

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blademasters is only 1% over uproar and then it loses tons of ST over uproar >:c

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not like you need any more sustained aoe

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shits already stupid good

boreal quartz
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@fresh spiredid u find the blord build

fresh spire
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st bl is like 2% behind

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but the build i cooked the other week drops SKS for BL now in st and aoe

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given 0 buffs to bleeds

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other buttons got better

astral talon
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one thing for warr left

fresh spire
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(actually need to check sks on st)

astral talon
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WHERE IS ANCIENT AFTERCOCK!?

flat willow
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ancient aftershock is Troar

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or spear

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or OF

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man we got a lot of those

astral talon
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ngl

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having a choice node

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between spear and aftershock

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or roar and aftershock

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would be a 10/10 design choice

flat willow
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I wouldn't be against them deleting spear

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but I suppose it's useful in pvp

fresh spire
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spear is solid for damage in fury and protection, better than roar if the situations for it to hit all is perfect.

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only reason spearr is sus is just targeting, roar has a huge radius honestly feels bigger than it says sometimes

mortal niche
astral talon
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you play roar for more dmg

livid cloak
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That looks so smooth and fun with battle lord and eb, and no sks

fresh spire
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thats with the new changes

livid cloak
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Plus mbg

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Yeah

alpine robin
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Is arms back?

livid cloak
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I hope this fixes execute too

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Back to execute execute filler ms

naive sage
livid cloak
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You can if you do arterial bleed

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There's like 20 diff ways to spec arms currently in keys that are within 2 percent

livid cloak
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Ms and Cleave changes should really solidify that build fishy linked

thick kelp
livid cloak
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It should be very strong

thick kelp
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nxt patch

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with

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cleave buffs

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1v5 too big

livid cloak
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Absolutely

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No doubt

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I'm gonna be on vacation all week just staring at discord for big numbers

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@wanton sierra don't let me down

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Send me arms vibes next week

steep osprey
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Cleave is gonna own

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4m cleave crits

livid cloak
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⛱️Arms 💯

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I wonder how big it will go with collateral dam

gusty oxide
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These buffs will surely alter the build we use, right? even so slightly

livid cloak
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My friends don't think arms needs buffs lol

austere hamlet
livid cloak
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Yea

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I bet soa is still the play

astral talon
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ok so with 20% cleave buffs

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for m+

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this again

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looks to be the play

livid cloak
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Soa op hits hard already

astral talon
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maybe drop battlelord for EB

livid cloak
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Take both

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Eb and bl

gusty oxide
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ColArms will slaps in M+, but Thane fury will be far better. Buuuuuuuut, ColArms will be in a nice spot regardless

astral talon
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ye thought about that too

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and dropping sks or something else

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i dunno

livid cloak
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I don't think thane will be that much better

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Definitely not far better

steep osprey
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Def not far better but it will be better

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especially on ST fights

livid cloak
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Col arms can already be competitive with thane fury

steep osprey
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compared to arms

potent scarab
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What are the odds skullsplitter is dropped

livid cloak
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Pretty high

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For keys

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Almost 0 chance for st

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Colossus is getting solid st buffs

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Thane fury will still be target capped and arms will be able to excel in big pulls

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Although I guess thane probably isn't even doing OF anymore eh?

edgy oak
obtuse totem
livid cloak
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Big doubt

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Running eb and bl right now is no bueno

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Ms too weak

obtuse totem
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Well you can doubt it but it's true, plus more fun

livid cloak
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Putting that point from battlelord into 2/2 bb is better this week

cloud gyro
obtuse totem
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Wait I might've not seen the build properly then

slow saddle
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Also what do u sim

obtuse totem
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5 target 1 minute

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dungeon slice is weird and janky to me

slow saddle
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Just sim st 😅

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As well

obtuse totem
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Oh I meant for M+

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Not raid

slow saddle
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Still

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St loss vs mt gain

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Important

obtuse totem
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oh right

slow saddle
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Sim same length no buffs i guess

obtuse totem
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I'll do that in a bit, in a BG now

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But I switched sks for EB and BI for warbreaker for M+ because it felt awful to play with those two and I do not feel any performance decrease

visual fern
granite swift
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Will you guys be playing arms in m+?

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Asking coz i play prot and offspecing Arms is way easier than fury with all the stat prio diff

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Like how far behind fury thane will we be

merry stone
wanton sierra
wanton sierra
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includin me hehehe

astral talon
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meanwhile i often do top dps keks

wanton sierra
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they make fun of me for playin an "weaker" spec (yes its weaker) but i usually top dam too xD and it not bc im good, im avarage, they that are casuals and die to fire

astral talon
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mine are tryhards

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but im an arms magician O_O

halcyon valve
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already seeing a 10 million cleave crit on target dummies. this is gonna rip aggro so hard on wednesday

astral talon
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O_O

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GOOD

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EB and we go

cloud gyro
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we are back

wanton sierra
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nice! my cleaves crits is around 5/6m

pure wren
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Hello, friends. Mythic Court prog will start for my guild next week, and with the buffs coming, I was curious what people would recommend playing for it. I was going to play Thane Fury, but seems like Arms could be back to being better.

astral talon
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I'll go collosus arms on mine O_O

halcyon valve
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youre asking what to play in the Arms channel??

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of course, play ARMS

marble steppe
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is arms good now?

astral talon
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i believe he meant hero talents

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but ye

astral talon
cloud gyro
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arms is good and fury is good

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we might not be op but we are good

marble steppe
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i was expecting some more execute buffs for fury but they didnt happen

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and if arms has an execute worth pressing

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im switching over

kind stag
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fury is so much easier but imo arms is so satisfying to play once you get in the flow

halcyon valve
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so true

kind stag
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arms is execute machine and you NEED to use it because of 4p

halcyon valve
cloud gyro
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i think colossus keys feel giga good

kind stag
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colo on some pulls is secks

marble steppe
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i hate the fact that if you dont crit with it it feels bad

kind stag
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i suffer a lot on fury because of 2min cds

cloud gyro
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when u get the flow going and everything lines up its so nice

pure wren
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It looks like all 4 specs will be viable for Warriors after the patch, but I've seen people play Thane and Slayer (Arms) on it.

kind stag
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one pack im recking other pack im sadge

cloud gyro
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arms has cds on every pack

kind stag
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especially on colo that sweet 45s

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also i got out of Dreadnought jail i finally accepted that its bait

cloud gyro
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its probably gonna be decent after buffs

kind stag
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the bonus aoe damage is so low compared to how much you gain from SoA

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and on colo i kinda dont need that extra compared to ST

drifting apex
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With the cleave damage buff does the talents under Avatar that give 8 sec of SS and reduce Cleave CD become must have?

kind stag
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ehhh

cloud gyro
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im already playing it in m+ as colossus

kind stag
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i am considering making dracthyr warrior can i perma stay in visage?

naive pawn
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yes

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the dragon horns will always show though

kind stag
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fine with that

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if you choose horns tho

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you can remove them

wanton sierra
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so arterial bleed lost value ?

cloud gyro
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comparatively sure

kind stag
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man i thought some arms still play with dawnthread lining but now i see most with weapon and bracer embellishments

cloud gyro
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weapon embellish is lowkey fake, im prob recrafting soon

kind stag
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ya think?

livid cloak
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it's roughly a 1% aoe gain for a pretty large ST loss

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you should not take it

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especially with exhilirating blows

cloud gyro
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its like 50% chance u roll a shit stat and then u have ligma

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and in m+ it has 0 value almost

granite swift
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Change from Highmountain to Dracthyr? Hmmmmmm

livid cloak
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arms likes all stats, so the embellish is fine

kind stag
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yeh but if you raid at times too?

livid cloak
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tbh embellishments are EXTREMELY minor gains

kind stag
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like im no mythic raider but i like jumping into a raid every now and then

thorn pelican
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its just the uptime in m+ thats wonky

granite swift
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Cows have huge swings so not sure

livid cloak
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it's fine if you have a real tank 🙂

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(most tanks are scared though)

kind stag
#

on tyrannical weeks on 10 keys its good tho

drifting apex
kind stag
#

bosses live long

thorn pelican
#

its always tyrannical week if ur doin 10s

halcyon valve
kind stag
#

or 10 keys* sorry

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i know i know

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me sounding like ive never seen a 10 key before

#

i got no brian

#

brain

#

yep warrior

livid cloak
#

outside of pure st i imagine

kind stag
#

what slots does dawnthread lining go on ?

#

bracers cloak and uhhh boots?

misty bridge
#

back and wrist, are the lowest stat slots

livid cloak
#

you can do it on belt, bracer, cloak, boot

halcyon valve
#

it can be crafted onto anything you want tho

kind stag
#

but i got rashanan hero back :(

wanton sierra
#

so we droppin sks w? super!

livid cloak
#

for non-tier slots

kind stag
wanton sierra
#

maybe uproar lose value ? hmm

livid cloak
#

uproar still good

#

and will be taken

fathom bluff
#

Aw man, do the buffs mean byebye bleed build?critcake

nova marsh
livid cloak
#

you can still do bleed build

#

but there's no way it outperforms cleave focus

#

with 20% cleave buff lol

cloud gyro
#

bleed is worse comparatively, but youre prob still dropping points into it

#

no real other choices

#

few nodes u can swap, maybe 2x tactician etc

kind stag
#

just considering embellishments

#

as exeo says ascendance is kinda iffy

fathom bluff
#

Goddamnit. They could've buffed rend a bit too couldn't they? Show some love for the bleed enjoyerssadge

kind stag
#

i mainly play m+ but i like to do raids now and then too

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so idk what to craft

kind stag
wanton sierra
#

i think they should have buffed rend and DW too

vapid bay
#

What are we dropping sks for

near edge
#

I was playing fury. think the arms will be better compared to fury after the 30 patch?

kind stag
fathom bluff
#

It wasn't really a bleed spec was it tho? It had bleeds, yes, but most of the dmg is still big nukes

vapid bay
#

Oh hell yea man i love eb

kind stag
#

EB Battlelord? idk still ehhhh

#

ill let smart people cook

vapid bay
#

Oh i didnt know about blord

halcyon valve
#

EB is ass to play imo

#

battle lord better

near edge
kind stag
#

i cant play without 2x Deft myself

#

its too comfy

vapid bay
#

Maybe, i just love msing 5 times in a row

marble grotto
gusty oxide
#

in ST Slarms will be king, for Aoe, it will be thane fury > Colarms > Slfury > Slarms

near edge
#

thanks 🙂

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It's just a little bit, but it's so nice to see a small hole of hope in the warrior.

cloud gyro
kind stag
#

i think both are fine but fury is safer pick if raider i guess

#

arms kinda does great in m+

gusty oxide
#

Arms beings such a no brainer as for stats goes, it will. Do fine

near edge
#

It was the last arms I played. I was dissatisfied because it was a dot deal. I wish they reworked it a bit

vapid bay
#

We all wish dude

#

Maybe for 15.0

gusty oxide
#

We all want those mega MS to be back

marble steppe
#

am i fine with haste mastery gear as slayer and col arms coming from fury?

#

or do i have to recraft?

gusty oxide
#

Haste is good, mastery less. See if you have rings that gives crit/vers

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Should be good enough to see if you will stivk to arms before commiting into recrafts

cloud gyro
neon niche
kind stag
#

my main issue with fury is the long CDs

#

really feels wack when you need it and shits not there

near edge
#

tell me a user name that I can use as a reference for amrs characteristics?

remote ledge
#

what second embelish do you recommend for m+ ONLY ? i have ascendance on wep, doubling it or going crit / vers ?

cloud gyro
#

all are fine, im going crit because its more fun - i prob wouldnt double weapon tho

gusty oxide
rancid solstice
#

Shirleythebandit on yt makes good stuff

near edge
#

thanks

muted acorn
#

are you guys running full colossus on raid and m+?

wanton sierra
#

maybe after buff colossus st viable in raid ?

valid flame
#

Nah

balmy kindle
livid cloak
lament ridge
#

Do we have overrides we can sim for the changes?

kind stag
#

whats dawnthread lining uptime like in m+?

#

cant decide on embels

#

and in raid too i guess

ripe quartz
#

Why is people so in love with colo?

strange perch
#

Big number fun. Slayer is very boring/passive

balmy kindle
#

Big bonk good, passive zing zing bad

livid cloak
#

Basically that yeah

quiet yacht
#

i like slayer because of the name lol

cyan oriole
#

slayer feels like the arms we've been playing for years already, it's fine. colossus feels different and big demos feel satisfying

#

just unga bunga

rancid willow
#

Yeah Slayer doesnt feel "heroic" at all.

#

The only thing I'd waanna see with Colossus is Demolish being usable while moving

#

rooting myself isnt fun

serene marten
#

Anybody done any theory crafting on how big the buffs for arms are gonna be? thinking about switching mains if they make arms playable in m+

tacit crystal
serene marten
#

ayo thanks man

steel sluice
rancid willow
#

Yeah i feel like hero talents are a let down

gusty oxide
#

They are for 95% of the classes tbh

steel sluice
#

Slayer could have gone amazing if we could have felt more like a slayer what kinda comes in mind is the slayer dwarfs from Warhammer fantasy

valid flame
#

Blizzard did a weird thing with them, since they overlap two specs. More likely to screw up tuning now.

rancid willow
#

If they made things LOOK different too, it would've felt more heroic

#

i dont even notice the colossus size increase

severe haven
#

Has anyone else noticed the sweeping strikes mortal strike animation being the same as the normal animation?

#

Threw me off a few times, hope they fix it

wanton sierra
#

omg!!! i got it

tacit crystal
#

nice

wanton sierra
#

i mean, not that big but statswise is nice and 6/6... my other was crit maestry 4/6

tacit crystal
#

eh it has effect

#

we ignore the rest

wanton sierra
#

saving some gilded crests to craft and upgrade myth

tacit crystal
#

i lost 75 crests from upgrading a neck to 639

#

and now im killing sikran every week

obtuse copper
#

@boreal quartz when next nerf

gaunt owl
#

what to upgrade

#

you do the mistake once

tacit gale
#

Anyone seen the coming arms buffs on wowhead? Do you guys think they will be sufficient?

plucky mortar
#

No this is the first time we have seem them

calm elm
#

First time it was shown, Archi is a prophet posting how it effects us hours ahead.

tacit gale
#

Where can I see his predictions?

wanton sierra
#

its on uypdates war within

plucky mortar
tacit gale
#

Ah sweet! Thanks

wanton sierra
#

i think its very expressive, 8ish percent is big number

#

but idk if shall be meta class or something

calm elm
#

And that’s before rotations are optimized on sims. So probably a little more.

plucky mortar
#

upper mid pack if I had to bet

#

Which is still a lot better than now

calm elm
#

At least it will probably get warrior out of Aug levels. Not sure if ST will be any good in M+ builds though.

tacit gale
#

Upper mid is completely fine by me. I'd assume arms will scale very well in later seasons when ilvl gets higher as they've done in other xpacs as well

latent moss
calm elm
#

Eh, this isn’t vanilla, we scaling good just means you’ll eat nerfs in those patches.

boreal quartz
calm elm
#

Fury will be super high of WoWheads Raider stat post because Reshan adds are back and get obliterated for it.

tacit crystal
#

but i think it was worth to use all my crests every week

fair fog
#

guys i came to say

#

arms warriros are all goated

shadow ibex
quasi torrent
#

the s word

#

is banned

#

the s word has not been true since wrath btw 👍

vague nova
#

I know people say “stat scaling is dead” or “all classes scale well with stats” but when you’re like say fire mage, and haste is worth more than intellect for you, I think that kinda means you scale with stats

flat willow
#

"scaling" hasn't been a thing for warrior since

#

cataclysm?

quasi torrent
#

cata killed it ye

#

even wrath is questionable

astral talon
#

do we know if we change any talents yet?

quasi torrent
#

u press n and swap fury ye

steep osprey
#

classic experience

#

dead on world boss and walking back to my corpse

astral talon
steep osprey
quasi torrent
#

is being gay a bad thing or what?

flat willow
#

maybe he means gay as being happy

steep osprey
#

oh yeah for sure

#

fury players are happy

flat willow
#

since nobody can be happy playing arms

quasi torrent
#

real

steep osprey
#

Dunno about fury either

flat willow
#

well right now no, but with proper damage fury doesn't feel awful to play

#

but even if you are top damage arms feels like shit

astral talon
flat willow
astral talon
#

im unhappy, thus i play arms

obtuse copper
astral talon
#

thus i ask if we have any talent changes for ST

tacit crystal
#

prob not

flat willow
#

one day battlelord will be playable

steep osprey
#

Apparently it is in M+ build

#

for COlossus

flat willow
#

arms is a few fixes away from being playble

#

and by playable I don't mean " WOOOOO I PLAY ARMS I LOVE THIS GAME "

shadow ibex
#

Go off queen

#

Slay

flat willow
#

blizzard just needs to kill juggernaut, buff battlelord, and make critical thinking baseline

#

cuz the spec is unplayable without it

steep osprey
#

true

quasi torrent
#

jugernussy

#

deserves to be shot yes

vague nova
#

Double jug timer or delete it from the game. Preferably the second.

obtuse copper
#

Do you think logs are gonna partition after reset since the class changes and bug fixes are so big

#

🤔

quasi torrent
#

no

lofty patrol
#

Ok big noob question incoming

Do bosses still parry/ dodge? Do i have to attack from the back

manic stirrup
#

heard arms scales bad this is true

finite wasp
#

whoops reply button active

quasi torrent
#

S WORD
!!!!!!!!!!

#

77777777777777777

tacit crystal
flat willow
#

arms scales good if you play dracthyr

#

big mastery

steep osprey
#

please no scaling

#

wait i got the joke

#

cause they're scaly

boreal quartz
#

gearing wont get u there in time

tacit crystal
#

@livid cloak do you want to play dragons or is it kid time

obtuse copper
#

Surely won't be hardstuck

boreal quartz
#

Oh you actually resubbed??

#

Hooly

tacit crystal
#

hooly

steep osprey
#

He saw buffs

#

and had to sub

nova marsh
#

So question

#

Did they ever fix the bug with demolish stopping AAs?

thick hamlet
stark river
#

Lads, im reading under Weakaura/macro section of arms warrior guide that even though Rend does more damage on single target, if you have Thunder clap talanted, you still just press TC and not have an extra keybind for rend

#

Real and true?

obtuse copper
gaunt owl
steep osprey
#

he caused the buffs

granite swift
#

Will the new Collosus builds be taking Mechanical Expertise?

#

Need an excuse to stay Tauren (huge swinging cow is a good one xD)

obtuse copper
granite swift
hollow wave
#

I have -200 vers, shits gonna hit hard

next sphinx
#

Liquid already got the WF dude it's a bit late now to get every edge :/

slow saddle
#

I mean worgen

#

Has awesome arms swings

#

So id look more into animations

#

Than racials

nova marsh
granite swift
next sphinx
#

Just play panda then. Unique animations for their attacks vs other races and they look the best in all armor

granite swift
#

True panda is good

next sphinx
#

My friend bullied me into going dragon with her and I already said she's got like 6 months of that shit before I go back to panda

granite swift
#

Haha, I was thinking to go dragon too, you'd get the belf male, human female and dragon to play around in

#

Then atomic calibrator when feeling saucy

#

Covered xD

next sphinx
#

True the nice thing about dragon is when you are in a set you don't care about a lot of the armor you can hulk out, and then if you do be a lil blood elf

next sphinx
#

For fury I macrod all my abilities to cast visage so I'm just constantly swapping back and forth on CD. Then for arns whenever I roar I swap

nova marsh
#

My favorite Mog of all time is on my shaman

next sphinx
nova marsh
#

If my shaman wasn't a panda she'd be a kul tiran

#

But I just....the mogs too good on a panda

next sphinx
#

Pandas are great because you have a good mix of sets that actually look cool as fuck and then sets that look goofy, but are top tier goofy so they still win out

nova marsh
#

Granted I play a female panda

dire hinge
nova marsh
#

LMAO

obtuse copper
dire hinge
dire hinge
#

then who is gonna take #1 deaths per spec? We can't let fury have everything

nova marsh
#

Fury took our st

#

They took our cleave

next sphinx
#

It's a futile battle, we'll never be able to eat as many crayons so they'll always win at something

nova marsh
#

Fury killed my family

nova marsh
#

I stg fury players play better on average then BMs I've Been with

dire hinge
#

nah BM is like, lower middle

obtuse copper
#

Unga bunga

#

DKs eating good

nova marsh
#

Hey look

#

We finally hit rock bottom again right before buffs

obtuse copper
#

Wdym rock bottom

#

Arms is clearly at the top in that graph

dire hinge
#

cliffing, even

full furnace
#

number is bigger, we win

next sphinx
#

ARMS EL NUMERO UNO EL CAMPO!!!!!!

nova marsh
#

Shame I'm still rerolling till a rework at the tail end of the world soul saga keks

#

God the warrior hate is hilarious thou ngl

#

I just got told by a shaman that brown class deserves to suffer

dire hinge
#

we need more nerfs, still too many people playing arms

nova marsh
#

Hroth it's okay

#

All the buffs were a typo

flat willow
#

I need everyone to stop playing arms

nova marsh
#

Were actually loosing 10% damage

flat willow
#

can you do that for me

nova marsh
#

I'm going enhance till rework

flat willow
#

once arms hit 0% playrate, blizzard will grace us with a rework

#

go on everyone, press N and swap to fury

nova marsh
#

And rework us to be even worse

fresh spire
flat willow
#

that works too

flat willow
next sphinx
nova marsh
flat willow
#

Yes

flat willow
#

nothing can be worse than post legion arms

nova marsh
next sphinx
#

Karen took my fucking parses

flat willow
#

if you aren't allowed to play fury you go ret or frost dk

next sphinx
#

Im not that desperate yet

flat willow
#

I am

#

I've been waiting for a rework for 4 expansions now

#

at least fury exists

next sphinx
#

Arms is good because when you outdps everyone else in the group they think you're REALLY good

flat willow
next sphinx
#

Man just take me back to legion arms or mists of pandaria arms

#

And give me throwdown instead of shockwave

gaunt owl
#

we peaked at legion

#

it was all downhill after

next sphinx
#

I think I've generally liked all iterations of arms better then other classes at the time but yeah legion was great

#

Is this what it feels like to be old..just reminiscing on when arms used to be good

atomic mountain
#

what the aktual fuck 😄

astral talon
#

yes

#

we're happy

#

very

steep osprey
#

DN??

jolly tendon
#

Hey guys, I'm starting to gear my alts and looking to craft some of the 619 pieces from the renown crests. Just wondering if there's a reason Vers thread > Crit thread when crit appears to be 1st or 2nd best secondary

manic stirrup
flat willow
#

no, arms is fun

#

or

#

no arms is fun

astral talon
#

arms is fun

#

👍

manic stirrup
halcyon valve
gaunt owl
shadow ibex
onyx pike
#

But too many reps to be an arms warrior. We do one rep and rest for five minutes

gilded stump
#

Arms warriors when Legs wizards show up

thorn field
#

Abs monks

steep osprey
#

low level druid tank clearing brd raid

#

because of S C A L I NG

thorn field
#

Good

steep osprey
#

amazing

wanton sierra
steep osprey
#

lfr

shadow ibex
#

Heroic was real

#

We did that shit last night

wanton sierra
#

i pugged and did 2 bosses

shadow ibex
#

I got a sexy crit haste ring out of it

wild ruin
#

lets gooo

steep osprey
#

Congrats

#

5k…

#

That’s insane

finite wasp
#

that is some juicy haste there i wish i had it

proud remnant
#

Bis!

quaint otter
uncut hound
#

after buffs, what is looking like the go to m+ build?

stuck moat
#

Messing with arms in M+ it's actually really fun to play

thorn pelican
#

i think its pretty neat too

quaint otter
uncut hound
#

LOL, right on

dire hinge
wheat lagoon
#

Getting my arms some practice for the buffs next week. 11 mist

proud remnant
#

Can’t wait to test some new arms M+ builds. I got a few builds in mind.

astral zephyr
nova marsh
#

Yes he was

torn rivet
#

guys

#

any good wa packs?

wheat lagoon
dire hinge
fickle lotus
wheat lagoon
#

a nerfed BDK

#

he was also like 615 ilvl

serene marten
#

why are people running blunt instruments instead of warbreaker for m+?

dire hinge
azure sable
#

I wish we got that 60% DMG for CS in pve as well

tawdry quail
#

Are we eating good rn?

slow saddle
wanton sierra
gaunt matrix
#

how dafuq

wanton sierra
#

I did mists 11 and i got 1.4 overall, did not share coz bad gameplay

tranquil sundial
#

fricking hell, I've had transmitter for like 1,5 week and now I realise the orb/pedestal always spawns front right of your character 🤦‍♂️

wanton sierra
#

I want that trink 😢

tranquil sundial
#

makes it infinitely easier lmao

tranquil sundial
#

Got 1.9 today but damn

#

you did the damage our enhancement did!

wanton sierra
#

I mean, 14k str is ultra op… imagina fully stacked demo and cleave

wanton sierra
tranquil sundial
gaunt matrix
#

share character 😛

wanton sierra
#

Share everything

wanton sierra
summer heath
#

Would Dracthyr Arm be fun ?

#

Choosing between arms or frost mage ;

gaunt matrix
#

You just get aoe knock back and 1% mastery so I mean sure?

weak rain
#

Velf warrior goated anyway

shadow ibex
#

Name checks out

nova marsh
weak rain
#

I swapped to velf as they allowed cross-faction guilds, no regrets

#

since

summer heath
#

But glide/charge/wing then charge n leap

grand idol
#

I was Velf and went dragon. The only things I don't like more are that the character select screen shows the ugly ass dragon instead of the visage form and my mog costs are doubled.

nova marsh
#

The mog cost reduction was bis

#

Ngl

shadow ibex
#

Stoneform is too hot

grand idol
#

if they add more customizations ill go back Velf, but until then the dragon blows everything else out of the water in that department, except for maybe humans.

nova marsh
#

Eh I just dont like dracthyr

#

I prefer my kul tirans for some reason

tranquil sundial
#

dwarf best race

#

regardless of class

#

or game

nova marsh
#

Sounds like a deep rock Galactica person

proud remnant
#

Night elf OP let’s be real boys

tranquil sundial
#

rock and stone

proud remnant
#

Ever heard of shadowmeld?

nova marsh
#

I don't play for racials lol

#

KTs are useless I just wonna look cool

dry frost
#

My fav is Lightforged Draenei but I’m not willing to take -28k dps to look pretty

#

They also have BiS accent

tranquil sundial
weak rain
grand idol