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silken
btw what's the name of the colossus tree dot talent
xd
I think they should let us have both Arterial Bleed and One Against Many
i gotta see the cook
bad idea?
just play ravager
it would be turbo strong
What the
like
man colo with blord
fatal mark is complete beans
would be so cool
can nerf it
maybe
but it would help a lot with sustain/st
Fatality 
especially arterial bleed
no bs or ravager is a cook for sure
they did the same for shamans
there was a choice node for stormbringer
and they made it a nonchoice node
sikran just wowhead build
drop bl and fatal for rav unhinged?
2 people beat me by 20k dps though
xd
yes
locked as 100 fuck it tho
this should be critical strike chance
instead of damage dealt
or both
why not both
or both 25%
nah
Crit and damage
fuck it mske it crit chance crit damage and damage
and make it also execute mobs below 50% hp
stop
and uhhh 50% movespeed
that way when you don't crit demolish you really wanna jump
I just wanted to show him the 40/40/10/10 meme
and make the mob explode
it was a thing in df
(off dalaran)
and 50% jump height
but it just casts slam
and your heroic leaps also cast demolish when you land
it's basically warbreaker actually lol
ARCANE ??
would be kinda cool if colossus had some heroic leap interaction
thematically doing big crunchy leap would be neat but probably ass for gameplay
Is arms putting up bigger numbers than fury in keys on average?
not that arms doesnt work tho
Is that the same in raids?
Ig depends on the fight
usually arms for fights with no adds
nice warlock
fury for any fight with adds
silken too
i think fury wins on silken cuz of the pad adds
well, if it's pad it's not useful
LOOT CRIT
Which meter is this?
eta gg
details
play better
Looks wildly different from mine... got profile you can share?
press your buttons harder
wait
i wanna play arms colossus in st raid
when demolish normal hit bigger than demolish crit
AHHH THE PARRY
is when you crash out
Got a profile import code? Looks much better than mine
idk its still a small
i mean you need the textures too
so colossus ST is like 500k worse than Slayer ST?
not that bad tbh
can play colossus if u want ig
i hit a 17m on silken

i want blord and aoe clap
crit transmitter pot cs spear damage amp gg
i should use spear on sikran
suuurely
what about 45s TR
OP and exe also buffed
shouldn't that be better
worse than reck
than spear
F
I think they know about it and somehow just don't want us to do that lmao
spear better on all colossus

roar might be better
idk if they do
roar does like 30-40k more dps than spear on its own
not including spears damage buff
don't use ravager 
and needs 2DE
i always picked that over 2de
but its interchangeable last time i simmed it
I find it funny slayer arms got a bigger buff than colossus arms on st
that's scuffed
this was a while ago
so Colosuss st is 3% worse than slayer st?
ms>demo forsure
is MS finally gonna do damage?
or have some prio in ST
for slayer
I know it's probably really good on colossus because of the talent buff
they missed 5% MS buff

from that nerf a while ago
gimme back my 5%
i mean it does
but idk if ull fix exe prio nr

5% ms will fix this
they should have buffed execute only for fury
and more than 10%
Demolish is such a fake ability
the Taerar world boss fucking knocked me back while using it
clown game
COLOSSUS RAAAAAAAAAHHHHH (normal is fake)
Does anyone know if there is anywhere to look at execute sim comparisons between specs?
I thought colossus was spam MS on cd. Maybe I need to read the guides again or stop fishy build
not in Execute it's not
I was then playing poorly 👌 I'll read everything once more
Wondering if this will put Colossus ahead of Fury for Ovinax
Not sure if you can get cds back for every spawn
Has anyone here been progging on Colossus?
I do not prog but arms also is way less bursty, by time you start doing damage fury is already over
Yeah makes sense, I think for that damage profile slayer fury stays on top
Perhaps mountain thane now
how far behind is mastery from crit in arms? if i swap from fury to arms with mastery haste gear am i gonna be gimped or will the difference not be too big from crit haste gear?
like will it be viable or will it be more like dont bother until you get crit gear?
I don't think the stats difference is big
obviously it's quite better with crit/haste
U also still want a decent chunk of mastery
but it's not like unplayable
We actually fetting buffed???
@low elk I find mastery is doing well for me in m+ and sims well in aoe
hows your rage generation with low crit?
I still have decent crit/haste so its not a problem and since its packs I alwats have rage but my st is low in comparison but im doing 1.4/1.5 on average overall
slayer?
Colo
ah nice
unlikely yeah
i was most hyped to play colossus before launch but how often that ability whiffed for me while leveling and in heroic dungeons kinda made me trash it. gonna try it again
Slayer : haste>>> crit
Colo : crit > mastery
Its mad fun in m+ and good on ovinax
Good thing vault gave me mythic sureki lmao
best still sim your self tho, for some reason my colo still favors crit and haste
are we saved
perhaps
Ok this made me second guess myself
This is no longer a thing right?
The free mortal strikes from unhinged don't cleave with SS right?
Correct
Ok just needed to double check, this was in the wowhead guide
So essentially colossus is basically send everything on cooldown 

Well gotta wait till next week at least tbh
ye i only managed to pull like 1.2kk with 613 arms 
had 1.5-1.6kk with 610 ele pre 11.05 :kekl:
arms owns
new mm does up to 2kk 
Only 5mil?
🤏 ?
Azuregos?
Would have been closer to 8 after buffs
Ig ye
Do blizard know about sweeping strikes animation bug?
Oh i also noticed today
Id post on Forums forsure
Idk what u have to do to mess animation...
hopefully warrior get rework and new animations like sp and ele got(cause idk they reworked almost all other specs already)
is colossus or slayer easier to play?
Slayer has less keybinds
Colo roots you
Defo slayer
But I have to time when to use my execute procs right?
I had rly hoped a patch note pushing col above slayer🤣
I mean Yesnt
U dont want sd to run out
You want to consume marked for exe 3 stack asap
You dont want juggernaut to drop
Cries
Weak aura mandatory then...
If there's even 1 instance of the self root pull immune being useful in m+
I'll play colossus
It works on ansurek
It works on all knockbacks
does it work on dark exile in wake?
No idea
I see a few people running these kinds of builds as slayer on the ladder. What do you think? This could scale well with the buffs next week of reap of the storm
is it..
i found out about the hunter thing yday..
What thinh
i think they just have condemn lol
Lmao
Wednesday
They have a better version of condemn even

this isnt even like a "1-2 less binds" its like 5 less binds its insane
what
Do you just send execute immediately on slayer single target?
Or wait for marked for death to stack up?
how do you have 5 less keybinds as slayer
how so
They do, it's kinda silly.
Does SS takes you into account for those 8 yrds or your target?
HOLY
do you have rage for execute 
Why is alchi dissing your build
And 2nd, I have a madman idea for you fishy
The same build but slayer, goal is spamming cleave and ms to fish for reap of the storm procs
potentially a thing now with the buff to reap, not sure, ms kinda stinks in slayer
ill eventually get around to it
Keep us in touch, thanks
Is cleave in ST fishin for reap more value then slam🤔
pad
blademasters is only 1% over uproar and then it loses tons of ST over uproar >:c
not like you need any more sustained aoe
shits already stupid good
@fresh spiredid u find the blord build
st bl is like 2% behind
but the build i cooked the other week drops SKS for BL now in st and aoe
given 0 buffs to bleeds
other buttons got better
one thing for warr left
(actually need to check sks on st)
WHERE IS ANCIENT AFTERCOCK!?
ngl
having a choice node
between spear and aftershock
or roar and aftershock
would be a 10/10 design choice
spear is solid for damage in fury and protection, better than roar if the situations for it to hit all is perfect.
only reason spearr is sus is just targeting, roar has a huge radius honestly feels bigger than it says sometimes
make it a pvp talent or is that too wild
not even played lol
you play roar for more dmg
God I hope this is the build
That looks so smooth and fun with battle lord and eb, and no sks
thats with the new changes
Is arms back?
Until then we use sks and 2 points BB right?
You can if you do arterial bleed
There's like 20 diff ways to spec arms currently in keys that are within 2 percent
Ms and Cleave changes should really solidify that build fishy linked
imo Art bleeding dies in key
It should be very strong
Absolutely
No doubt
I'm gonna be on vacation all week just staring at discord for big numbers
@wanton sierra don't let me down
Send me arms vibes next week
These buffs will surely alter the build we use, right? even so slightly
My friends don't think arms needs buffs lol
still no dn even with the buffs ya think?
Soa op hits hard already
maybe drop battlelord for EB
ColArms will slaps in M+, but Thane fury will be far better. Buuuuuuuut, ColArms will be in a nice spot regardless
Col arms can already be competitive with thane fury
compared to arms
What are the odds skullsplitter is dropped
Pretty high
For keys
Almost 0 chance for st
Colossus is getting solid st buffs
Thane fury will still be target capped and arms will be able to excel in big pulls
Although I guess thane probably isn't even doing OF anymore eh?
Thats the build Ive been using in M+ for weeks because its more fun, funny enough I simmed more with it too
Well you can doubt it but it's true, plus more fun
Putting that point from battlelord into 2/2 bb is better this week
there are a few, some as tank and some as dps
Wait I might've not seen the build properly then
Also what do u sim
oh right
Sim same length no buffs i guess
I'll do that in a bit, in a BG now
But I switched sks for EB and BI for warbreaker for M+ because it felt awful to play with those two and I do not feel any performance decrease
Will you guys be playing arms in m+?
Asking coz i play prot and offspecing Arms is way easier than fury with all the stat prio diff
Like how far behind fury thane will we be
Hey big sean! Super hyped about the buffs, we shall see big numbers indeed! Don’t worry ill share my results!
I wanna try the heart of roccor, it seems to be good on m+
same, they think arms is already good but ppl dont know how to play xD
includin me hehehe
mine made fun of arms lmao
meanwhile i often do top dps 
they make fun of me for playin an "weaker" spec (yes its weaker) but i usually top dam too xD and it not bc im good, im avarage, they that are casuals and die to fire
already seeing a 10 million cleave crit on target dummies. this is gonna rip aggro so hard on wednesday
we are back
nice! my cleaves crits is around 5/6m
Hello, friends. Mythic Court prog will start for my guild next week, and with the buffs coming, I was curious what people would recommend playing for it. I was going to play Thane Fury, but seems like Arms could be back to being better.
I'll go collosus arms on mine O_O
is arms good now?
always
i was expecting some more execute buffs for fury but they didnt happen
and if arms has an execute worth pressing
im switching over
fury is so much easier but imo arms is so satisfying to play once you get in the flow
so true
arms is execute machine and you NEED to use it because of 4p

i think colossus keys feel giga good
colo on some pulls is secks
i hate the fact that if you dont crit with it it feels bad
i suffer a lot on fury because of 2min cds
when u get the flow going and everything lines up its so nice
It looks like all 4 specs will be viable for Warriors after the patch, but I've seen people play Thane and Slayer (Arms) on it.
one pack im recking other pack im sadge
arms has cds on every pack
especially on colo that sweet 45s
also i got out of Dreadnought jail i finally accepted that its bait
its probably gonna be decent after buffs
the bonus aoe damage is so low compared to how much you gain from SoA
and on colo i kinda dont need that extra compared to ST
With the cleave damage buff does the talents under Avatar that give 8 sec of SS and reduce Cleave CD become must have?
ehhh
im already playing it in m+ as colossus
i am considering making dracthyr warrior can i perma stay in visage?
so arterial bleed lost value ?
comparatively sure
man i thought some arms still play with dawnthread lining but now i see most with weapon and bracer embellishments
weapon embellish is lowkey fake, im prob recrafting soon
ya think?
no
it's roughly a 1% aoe gain for a pretty large ST loss
you should not take it
especially with exhilirating blows
its like 50% chance u roll a shit stat and then u have ligma
and in m+ it has 0 value almost
Change from Highmountain to Dracthyr? Hmmmmmm
arms likes all stats, so the embellish is fine
yeh but if you raid at times too?
tbh embellishments are EXTREMELY minor gains
like im no mythic raider but i like jumping into a raid every now and then
its just the uptime in m+ thats wonky
Cows have huge swings so not sure
on tyrannical weeks on 10 keys its good tho
ty for answering
bosses live long
its always tyrannical week if ur doin 10s
tyran/fort doesnt matter on 10 you got both anyway
or 10 keys* sorry
i know i know
me sounding like ive never seen a 10 key before
i got no brian
brain
yep warrior
bleed basically dead with cleave buffs next week
outside of pure st i imagine
back and wrist, are the lowest stat slots
you can do it on belt, bracer, cloak, boot
it can be crafted onto anything you want tho
but i got rashanan hero back :(
so we droppin sks w? super!
for non-tier slots
uuuu belt
maybe uproar lose value ? hmm
Aw man, do the buffs mean byebye bleed build?
Go boots
you can still do bleed build
but there's no way it outperforms cleave focus
with 20% cleave buff lol
bleed is worse comparatively, but youre prob still dropping points into it
no real other choices
few nodes u can swap, maybe 2x tactician etc
yessir
just considering embellishments
as exeo says ascendance is kinda iffy
Goddamnit. They could've buffed rend a bit too couldn't they? Show some love for the bleed enjoyers
they should rework arms so its not a bleed spec anymore, and just a big numbers guy
i think they should have buffed rend and DW too

What are we dropping sks for
I was playing fury. think the arms will be better compared to fury after the 30 patch?
i saw EB
It wasn't really a bleed spec was it tho? It had bleeds, yes, but most of the dmg is still big nukes
Oh hell yea man i love eb
For pure ST, Yes.
Oh i didnt know about blord
single target right?
Maybe, i just love msing 5 times in a row
Yes.
in ST Slarms will be king, for Aoe, it will be thane fury > Colarms > Slfury > Slarms
thanks 🙂
It's just a little bit, but it's so nice to see a small hole of hope in the warrior.
arms is not significantly ahead of fury, if you are mythic progressing its prob better to gear fury
i think both are fine but fury is safer pick if raider i guess
arms kinda does great in m+
It will depend on what boss your are, at that point
Arms beings such a no brainer as for stats goes, it will. Do fine
It was the last arms I played. I was dissatisfied because it was a dot deal. I wish they reworked it a bit
We all want those mega MS to be back
am i fine with haste mastery gear as slayer and col arms coming from fury?
or do i have to recraft?
Haste is good, mastery less. See if you have rings that gives crit/vers
Should be good enough to see if you will stivk to arms before commiting into recrafts
slayer arms does insane boss dmg in m+
should be fine dont stress about it too much
all secondaries are welcome and always sim
yeh
my main issue with fury is the long CDs
really feels wack when you need it and shits not there
tell me a user name that I can use as a reference for amrs characteristics?
what second embelish do you recommend for m+ ONLY ? i have ascendance on wep, doubling it or going crit / vers ?
all are fine, im going crit because its more fun - i prob wouldnt double weapon tho
critcake
chad
All the big boys here are fury enthusiasts.
But critcake is a name i can give
Tmy the goat
Shirleythebandit on yt makes good stuff
thanks
are you guys running full colossus on raid and m+?
maybe after buff colossus st viable in raid ?
Nah
colo alr sims very close for me so after buffs i am just gonna colo all the way
Its viable now. Slayer is higher but colossus is viable
Do we have overrides we can sim for the changes?
whats dawnthread lining uptime like in m+?
cant decide on embels
and in raid too i guess
Why is people so in love with colo?
Big number fun. Slayer is very boring/passive
Big bonk good, passive zing zing bad
Basically that yeah
i like slayer because of the name lol
slayer feels like the arms we've been playing for years already, it's fine. colossus feels different and big demos feel satisfying
just unga bunga
Yeah Slayer doesnt feel "heroic" at all.
The only thing I'd waanna see with Colossus is Demolish being usable while moving
rooting myself isnt fun
Anybody done any theory crafting on how big the buffs for arms are gonna be? thinking about switching mains if they make arms playable in m+
ayo thanks man
I mean col is the same arms aswell with a worst leggo axe but I feel that, I only like slayer because sppiiinnnn zug zug
Yeah i feel like hero talents are a let down
They are for 95% of the classes tbh
Slayer could have gone amazing if we could have felt more like a slayer what kinda comes in mind is the slayer dwarfs from Warhammer fantasy
Blizzard did a weird thing with them, since they overlap two specs. More likely to screw up tuning now.
If they made things LOOK different too, it would've felt more heroic
i dont even notice the colossus size increase
Has anyone else noticed the sweeping strikes mortal strike animation being the same as the normal animation?
Threw me off a few times, hope they fix it
omg!!! i got it
nice
i mean, not that big but statswise is nice and 6/6... my other was crit maestry 4/6
saving some gilded crests to craft and upgrade myth
i lost 75 crests from upgrading a neck to 639
and now im killing sikran every week
@boreal quartz when next nerf
thats how you learn
what to upgrade
you do the mistake once
Anyone seen the coming arms buffs on wowhead? Do you guys think they will be sufficient?
No this is the first time we have seem them
First time it was shown, Archi is a prophet posting how it effects us hours ahead.
Where can I see his predictions?
its on uypdates war within
Ah sweet! Thanks
i think its very expressive, 8ish percent is big number
but idk if shall be meta class or something
And that’s before rotations are optimized on sims. So probably a little more.
At least it will probably get warrior out of Aug levels. Not sure if ST will be any good in M+ builds though.
Upper mid is completely fine by me. I'd assume arms will scale very well in later seasons when ilvl gets higher as they've done in other xpacs as well
first time seeing them hoooly big buffs
Eh, this isn’t vanilla, we scaling good just means you’ll eat nerfs in those patches.
2 weeks
Fury will be super high of WoWheads Raider stat post because Reshan adds are back and get obliterated for it.
i mean its not actually bad because i still dont have the neck
but i think it was worth to use all my crests every week
Can you explain what scaling good means
I know people say “stat scaling is dead” or “all classes scale well with stats” but when you’re like say fire mage, and haste is worth more than intellect for you, I think that kinda means you scale with stats
do we know if we change any talents yet?
u press n and swap fury ye
ok but im not gay O_O
are you saying being gay is bad?
is being gay a bad thing or what?
maybe he means gay as being happy
since nobody can be happy playing arms
real
Dunno about fury either
well right now no, but with proper damage fury doesn't feel awful to play
but even if you are top damage arms feels like shit
^ precisely

im unhappy, thus i play arms
Ok sick I do content for 2 weeks then back to professions
thus i ask if we have any talent changes for ST
prob not
one day battlelord will be playable
arms is a few fixes away from being playble
and by playable I don't mean " WOOOOO I PLAY ARMS I LOVE THIS GAME "
blizzard just needs to kill juggernaut, buff battlelord, and make critical thinking baseline
cuz the spec is unplayable without it
true
Double jug timer or delete it from the game. Preferably the second.
Do you think logs are gonna partition after reset since the class changes and bug fixes are so big
🤔
no
Ok big noob question incoming
Do bosses still parry/ dodge? Do i have to attack from the back
heard arms scales bad this is true
whoops reply button active
yes
i heard dn scales
ideally dont even start
gearing wont get u there in time

@livid cloak do you want to play dragons or is it kid time
It's ok I'm like 603 rn
Surely won't be hardstuck
hooly
i dont think that's a bug
Lads, im reading under Weakaura/macro section of arms warrior guide that even though Rend does more damage on single target, if you have Thunder clap talanted, you still just press TC and not have an extra keybind for rend
Real and true?
Yeye been playing since like tuesday last week
you came back at our lowest to save us ?
he caused the buffs
Will the new Collosus builds be taking Mechanical Expertise?
Need an excuse to stay Tauren (huge swinging cow is a good one xD)
Cow bad go dragon
Yeah I have a race change ready, guess i'll do it
I have -200 vers, shits gonna hit hard
Why would you go a race you don't want to go if you love tauren?
Liquid already got the WF dude it's a bit late now to get every edge :/
I mean worgen
Has awesome arms swings
So id look more into animations
Than racials
Yes but then evrey helm you wear will look like a tin can oh wait Tauren has that problem too
Warriors dont wear helmet
Dont look the greatest in gear tbh, I'm a fan of the huge swings though
Just play panda then. Unique animations for their attacks vs other races and they look the best in all armor
True panda is good
My friend bullied me into going dragon with her and I already said she's got like 6 months of that shit before I go back to panda
Haha, I was thinking to go dragon too, you'd get the belf male, human female and dragon to play around in
Then atomic calibrator when feeling saucy
Covered xD
True the nice thing about dragon is when you are in a set you don't care about a lot of the armor you can hulk out, and then if you do be a lil blood elf
Pandaern shamans go hard
For fury I macrod all my abilities to cast visage so I'm just constantly swapping back and forth on CD. Then for arns whenever I roar I swap
My favorite Mog of all time is on my shaman
I genuinely have every class as a panda that can be a panda except for my warrior atm and he'll be back soon enough
If my shaman wasn't a panda she'd be a kul tiran
But I just....the mogs too good on a panda
Pandas are great because you have a good mix of sets that actually look cool as fuck and then sets that look goofy, but are top tier goofy so they still win out
Granted I play a female panda
welcome back friend ❤️
LMAO
<3
hehe hello fellow nebraskan
The answer is yes, but it's only relevant in Raid content for the most part
The solution is don't raid
then who is gonna take #1 deaths per spec? We can't let fury have everything
It's a futile battle, we'll never be able to eat as many crayons so they'll always win at something
Fury killed my family
Also the answer is bm.
I stg fury players play better on average then BMs I've Been with
cliffing, even
number is bigger, we win
ARMS EL NUMERO UNO EL CAMPO!!!!!!
Shame I'm still rerolling till a rework at the tail end of the world soul saga 
God the warrior hate is hilarious thou ngl
I just got told by a shaman that brown class deserves to suffer
we need more nerfs, still too many people playing arms
I need everyone to stop playing arms
Were actually loosing 10% damage
can you do that for me
Wish granted
I'm going enhance till rework
once arms hit 0% playrate, blizzard will grace us with a rework
go on everyone, press N and swap to fury
And rework us to be even worse
prot :o7
that works too
humanly not possible
My stupid wife Karen's new lawyer BF put in the divorce proceedings that I am not allowed to play fury 😦
Are you sure about that
Yes
Ret angle
nothing can be worse than post legion arms
This is blizzard were talking about
Karen took my fucking parses
Im not that desperate yet
Arms is good because when you outdps everyone else in the group they think you're REALLY good

Man just take me back to legion arms or mists of pandaria arms
And give me throwdown instead of shockwave
I think I've generally liked all iterations of arms better then other classes at the time but yeah legion was great
Is this what it feels like to be old..just reminiscing on when arms used to be good
DN??
Hey guys, I'm starting to gear my alts and looking to craft some of the 619 pieces from the renown crests. Just wondering if there's a reason Vers thread > Crit thread when crit appears to be 1st or 2nd best secondary
no arms is fun
👍
👍
if only we were as strong as he is
That's a row so not arms really
Some of us are
But too many reps to be an arms warrior. We do one rep and rest for five minutes
Arms warriors when Legs wizards show up
Abs monks
Good
amazing
heroic?
lfr
i pugged and did 2 bosses
I got a sexy crit haste ring out of it
lets gooo
that is some juicy haste there i wish i had it
Bis!
Jeez gz
after buffs, what is looking like the go to m+ build?
Messing with arms in M+ it's actually really fun to play
the cook is not ready yet
LOL, right on
Grats!
Getting my arms some practice for the buffs next week. 11 mist
Can’t wait to test some new arms M+ builds. I got a few builds in mind.
Were you running mist with slayer?
yea
Going to Wago.io and searching for “arms” then sort by install count. The top ones are really solid
What the Hell is this BDK DPS lol
why are people running blunt instruments instead of warbreaker for m+?
i see
It elongates your In For The Kill duration, giving you more haste for 3 more seconds per CS. It’s only a small AoE loss and it gives you a decently significant Single Target gain for priority adds and bosses
I wish we got that 60% DMG for CS in pve as well
Are we eating good rn?
For slayer its worth
For col im not so certain
Holy fack this guy is insane! Nice dam king 👑
how dafuq
I did mists 11 and i got 1.4 overall, did not share coz bad gameplay
fricking hell, I've had transmitter for like 1,5 week and now I realise the orb/pedestal always spawns front right of your character 🤦♂️
I want that trink 😢
makes it infinitely easier lmao
pog champ
Got 1.9 today but damn
you did the damage our enhancement did!
I mean, 14k str is ultra op… imagina fully stacked demo and cleave
Share build champ
share character 😛
Share everything
Huge
You just get aoe knock back and 1% mastery so I mean sure?
Velf warrior goated anyway
Velf is okat if you're gonna charge weave
2% mastery
But glide/charge/wing then charge n leap
I was Velf and went dragon. The only things I don't like more are that the character select screen shows the ugly ass dragon instead of the visage form and my mog costs are doubled.
Stoneform is too hot
if they add more customizations ill go back Velf, but until then the dragon blows everything else out of the water in that department, except for maybe humans.
Sounds like a deep rock Galactica person
Night elf OP let’s be real boys
rock and stone
Ever heard of shadowmeld?
My fav is Lightforged Draenei but I’m not willing to take -28k dps to look pretty
They also have BiS accent
exactly, rock and stone brother
I ll never trade my velf for some ugly ass dracthyr even if they were bis dps wise(they are clearly not)
naw, the visage form is top notch. the only time im the dragon is on the select screen.


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