arms

[nova marsh]

They are not mutually exclusive statements

[regal birch]

HMMMM
?

[teal fossil]

Almost as if you can play both

[regal birch]

but then you have to play that cringe colossus spec

[vale cradle]

i thought arms was mid in keys but pugs dont ever want to invite them

[thick hamlet]

any m+ enjoyers would rather have had defensive buffs tho

[regal birch]

pretend to be fury and spec arms

last second

[stuck moat]

If you go by what pugs think which is how alot M+, arms is viewed as trash tier even if it's actually not

[thick hamlet]

stop stealing my tech bro wtf

[regal birch]

hahahaha

bro we are monkey brains we share the same ideas across all of us

[thick hamlet]

here's a new one for u

you go prot, you queue as tank

[regal birch]

na

[thick hamlet]

you get invited

wait let me cook

[regal birch]

wait

[thick hamlet]

you get invited, then you say nothing

and when they invite a 4th dps, u quietly switch back to arms

when asked bro wtf werent u prot

you gaslight the keyholder into thinking that he made a mistake

[gaunt owl]

orange cat style !

every brain cell is shared across the board

[regal birch]

mind blown

damnnnn

[gaunt owl]

we just cant aggro

[thick hamlet]

works everytime

[regal birch]

but im a zerobrain my gaslighting skills are about zero

can i just pretend to be stupid

[vale cradle]

i signed up as dps i was just prot for a delve

[thick hamlet]

but u gotta be quick bro, once he invites 4th dps u say "wtf bro why 4 dps"

[regal birch]

and make him feel bad to kick me

[broken arrow]

warriors too dumb to gaslight so they never expect it

[regal birch]

so i stay

[void geyser]

I'm gonna pull threat even worse now when we are moving between trash packs and I got that +13 collateral stack about to roll off just as we get to the next pack of mobs

[regal birch]

wdym

[void geyser]

die by the sword was made for this

[regal birch]

just pre parry

ye

[void geyser]

exactly

[halcyon valve]

Amen

[regal birch]

we are alike

i like it

[void geyser]

god's design was DBTS and mega zonkin

[halcyon valve]

Cant wait to run into every pack with defensives

[regal birch]

cant wait to call every external possible

[thick hamlet]

btw

[regal birch]

shhh

downplay

DOWNPLAY

[thick hamlet]

colossus in m+ is gonna be hitting

ah ya

i mean

wait

wtf bros

[regal birch]

hahahah

[thick hamlet]

no utility or defensive buffs

[void geyser]

fed from the fury channel trying to sew discord

[thick hamlet]

9 hour in m+ queue no invites

[void geyser]

don't tell me my cleave too strong, my swag too tough

they'll kill me

[regal birch]

i cant even deal with the affixes

[regal wharf]

FUCK IT

[regal birch]

so at least i need to do dmg

[regal wharf]

I ATE THE OPPS

[nova marsh]

Imagine all the buffs are actually nerfs

[regal birch]

pls buff more

not enough

[quartz canopy]

too bad that since no one plays arms, it will still take a few weeks before people realize it's okay to invite us into Keys again

[golden smelt]

Hurrah! Finally some good news!

[nova marsh]

Arms just now do3s no damage

[nova marsh]

Dude even at launch we didn't get invites

It's meta or nothing

[regal wharf]

dont let this distract us from the real problem

this patch kinda sucks

what the fuck is codex of chromie

slop

[golden smelt]

Finally just timed my the final +11 and made it in the 2.7k club! It's going to be way more fun next week

[regal birch]

wdym i rly enjoy sitting for half an hour to do my story telling part for the meta av mount

[nova marsh]

It's food that it sucks

[void geyser]

we were like 0.6% of all players in m+ last I checked? but I've also only ever been out dps'd by my own friends (both rets) so shit is about to get crazy for us

[vast surge]

Patch is sadly dogwater tier

[vale cradle]

tbh why invite arms if you can invite a bres or hero that will still do as much dam

[halcyon valve]

Dont know dont care not gonna do it

[regal birch]

cause you only need 2

[remote ledge]

Are the sims using BL + EB? They might be it now

[nova marsh]

You wont

[regal wharf]

its a daily for the 20th anni event

[vague nova]

We give AP

[regal wharf]

its the worst thing ever

[void geyser]

merovegas

[nova marsh]

Arms is fucking useless

[vague nova]

Totally worth

[regal birch]

yo bro

who is this doomer

go back to fury channel

[nova marsh]

I WILL ALWAYA DOOM

[void geyser]

fed

[halcyon valve]

Engineering bres is usable by everyone

[nova marsh]

Until the day arms is bis in all content arms will be bad

[stuck moat]

Think people just want more usefull specs why take a dps warrior if they don't do crazy dmg don't bring much plus can just get a prot warrior. Blizzard gave dps warrior no real value in keys ... imo

[regal birch]

trueeee

[nova marsh]

Exactly

Unless we're literally 8% ahead of evrey other spec we won't be brought

[vale cradle]

thats the main problem

[halcyon valve]

We have berserker shout, totally unique and necessary utility

[nova marsh]

We have nothing really

[nova marsh]

This isn't classic

[stuck moat]

Personally I always thought warriors should be a lusting class

[regal wharf]

thats why I run my own keys

[nova marsh]

If blizzard was high and still thought constant unavoidable fears were good Gane design then yes it'd be great

[teal fossil]

Any fear these days is a terrify

[nova marsh]

But if unget feared in modern wow as a group you fucked up

[teal fossil]

Which doesn’t get berserkers

Terrify is made to specifically mess up berserker

[royal jungle]

Warriors should have gotten screams, druid roar for instance

[halcyon valve]

Mages/dracthyr: (use magic to warp time itself)
Shamans: (call upon the elements to strengthen their allies)
Hunters: (share the feral lust for blood)
Warriors: LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOO

[royal jungle]

Yelling and giving buff through it

[wanton ravine]

It really makes zero sense why we have no real utility as a class for groups.

[stuck moat]

Shouts could be so much better then they are. What if dps warriors could yell at the healer to give em a healing bonus yell at the dps for a dps bonus yell at the tank so now he knows how to tank buff

[wanton ravine]

Commanding Shouts vs Attack Shouts vs Motivational Shouts or something.

[stuck moat]

If warriors can give others bigger numbers people would always want one XD

[nova marsh]

Give us banners

[void geyser]

arms is the new aug?

[nova marsh]

That procide group ulti

[wanton ravine]

Or banners.

[stuck moat]

Aug should have never happened imo

[void geyser]

ye

[royal jungle]

Shouts and banners, what a dream

[proper atlas]

fury got buffs to which will be better?

[nova marsh]

hell actually before we say that

How about we just buff rally first

[vale cradle]

arms always better

[halcyon valve]

Tbf if we actually went for it, warrior has a lot of (theoretical) utility
Spear to hold things in place
Strong aoe slow
25ish second aoe stun/knockup
single target stun
13 second interrupt
(Spell reflect)
Aoe fear/knockback

[halcyon valve]

Necrolord banner, neuron activation

[stuck moat]

Id like some sort of talent to were you could change rally to something more useful in keys

[nova marsh]

If we had a version of spear on like a 30 second cd that JUST did a grip

It'd be amazing

[royal jungle]

+100% when not in raid group
Or something, would be sweet

[nova marsh]

we essentially have binding shot

[stuck moat]

Nothing special worth taking over alot of other classes

[wanton ravine]

Im 620 and can barely get into +8s while others like Pallies can get in no problem. We could absolutely use something unique to our class to help with this.

[thick hamlet]

LOOK

[nova marsh]

I'd love to see a banner style ability that like

[thick hamlet]

VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION

[nova marsh]

gives 100% leech

[halcyon valve]

Still exists thi

[nova marsh]

And enabled good healing

[thick hamlet]

do the changes mean we get to MS more during execute?

[stuck moat]

Does it tho if no one cares? 😛

[vernal briar]

MOM WAKE UP WE GOT BUFFED

WHATTTTT

[light dirge]

finally some damn buffs

[remote ledge]

Anyone playing with BL+Massacre builds with the buffs? Fishys build should be on TOP now?

[vernal briar]

sim bois, let's get to it

chop chop, do the thing

and please .. make the sims as low as possible

[nova marsh]

Buffs aren't till tuseday

[vernal briar]

we don't want nerfs for no goddamn reason

[light dirge]

babe wake up some warrior buffs out

[remote ledge]

Ik I mean sim wise with apl changes @nova marsh

[light dirge]

🎉

[thick hamlet]

what exactly does "demolish single target damage increased by 15%"

[nova marsh]

oh fair fair

[thick hamlet]

do they mean the first two hits only

[stuck moat]

What's going to happen is they will mess something up on the update arms will do too much dmg due to a bug and they will fix it but then use that as an excuse to nerf

[weak rain]

first 2 strikes?

[nova marsh]

yes first two strikes

[wanton ravine]

Fury buffed too, interesting.

[shadow ibex]

is tclap sweeping still making it apply to more targets

[thick hamlet]

it never did as far as i know

[shadow ibex]

nah it has been for all of TWW

[nova marsh]

Even with the buffs

Reroll angle is still tempting

[wanton ravine]

What would you reroll to?

[twilit burrow]

frost dk

[thick hamlet]

HUH!?

am i getting trolled or what

[nova marsh]

enhance

[fresh spire]

Dn is pretty good again, around 2.6% ish dps gain on 5 target over SOA, while being a 1% dps loss vs SOa.
Need to do some more indepth stuff tomorrow rechecking any prios (mainly mortal strike Vs Op on aoe given cleave had a buff)

Sadly 2 stack tier is still here to stay

[tranquil rapids]

Is it time are we rising up

[dim sleet]

holy crap, im gonna be a god

[neon ocean]

with execute getting buffed I pretty much expected 2 stack execute gameplay to stay

[shadow ibex]

fuck tier

why fuck

[neon ocean]

I can live w/ that

[wanton ravine]

Man, I just want Arms to be competitive. I dislike being forced into Fury.

[remote ledge]

Hello master, EB + bl for arms to the moon now??? Your build to the moon??

[hot current]

when do this buffs go live?

[fresh spire]

fishy build still looking strong

[nova marsh]

reset

[dim sleet]

these seem like pretty huge buffs to arms colossus in m+, im pretty certain i'll at least be able to keep up with ret paladins of similar ilvl now

[remote ledge]

Too bad they also buffed no fun thane

[tranquil sundial]

just run your own keys

its the only way

[nova marsh]

I'll run my own keys, invite 2.5k evreyone from good servers on good specs, key still gets bricked

GOOD

[broken arrow]

Just did Sweeping Thunderclap into a pack of 8 mobs and it only applied Rend to 5. Unless there's some secret tech

[tranquil sundial]

atleast you get to play in a dungeon

otherwise its just afk in dornogal losing sanity cos you're signing

[vast hinge]

its cus you have a brown class

thats not a tank

[tranquil sundial]

and getting declined

[vast hinge]

replace that with a better colored class and the key will be timed

[fresh spire]

shit crop

[nova marsh]

So

AKA

Still reroll enhance

[vast hinge]

i recon UH dk

is insane

and flying under the radar

cus fdk taking the heat

[wanton ravine]

I feel personally attacked.

[remote ledge]

Also, has anyone messed around improved sweeping strike? It felt very very good on target dummy esp in bleed builds, but don't know how troll it is

[sage badge]

Arms owns

[dull siren]

Do I play Arms in MDI now? @sage badge

[sage badge]

Yeah. I'm rerolling off ele

[livid cloak]

Holy arms buffs let's go

[gaunt owl]

did you betray us @sage badge

i'm disappointed

[sage badge]

[gaunt owl]

you were the OG superman

[livid cloak]

I'll be gone all week during buff week

[fresh spire]

GUYS I HAVE WONDERFUL NEWS

[livid cloak]

[fresh spire]

opportunist sims slightly less than fierce now

[livid cloak]

Bless

[sage badge]

I've been playing ele this expansion, but I think it's time to return to the best spec in the game. Arms.

[balmy kindle]

omg guys are we saved

is this real

[rapid bronze]

Deswin more liek

[remote ledge]

We want EB or slayer arms

[naive sage]

Fuck overpower

[void geyser]

welcome back, champion

[languid burrow]

So this next reset, Arms finally wakes up?

[shadow ibex]

sweeping + 1 cast

10 applications

so still working. had 7 earlier in the night

[void geyser]

does it build collat stacks?

[shadow ibex]

no just been buggy since tww launch

i thought maybe they fixed

[granite swift]

Just got home, missed everything....can someone tell me if Arms has a sniff in m+ after these? Or is that a stretch

[tranquil sundial]

with the new numbers out; how we looking compared to the rest? Are we top or like above middle?

[balmy kindle]

at least middle is guaranteed ?

[unreal mountain]

cant believe they finally buff arms

[visual fern]

Spear arms we are

[languid burrow]

like REAL buffs too

[visual fern]

[balmy kindle]

pretty much reverted the base number nerffs they did

[unreal mountain]

and they even buff both hero speccs, one for raid and the other one for m +

[rigid lily]

Congratz guys 🙏

[languid burrow]

the copium kept us alive

[summer shore]

this is such a significant buff too

[tranquil sundial]

its this really, buffs were coming. just not sure how small or big xd

[summer shore]

Both m+ and raid

[visual fern]

Bro what copium

[summer shore]

[visual fern]

You been gone past month or...?

[granite swift]

Arms good for m+ now?

[visual fern]

It was insane off the charts unfettered doomium

[cyan sage]

am i coping or what, i dusted of my warr and feel like i hit much higher

ALLREADY

[visual fern]

That's just you king

Big passion

= big number

[languid burrow]

Can't tell if Slayer Arms or Col Arms is getting the better deal. But both getting juiced is nice

[unreal mountain]

i would say slayer for Raid and Collusus finally for M +

but both should be viable now

[languid turtle]

https://did-my-husband-buy-bruto.com/

[tranquil sundial]

i mean, already is kind of

[granite swift]

Nice, how far behind fury are we in m+ you reckon

[unreal mountain]

yeah truhe its stays like the way it is just better numbers, which we needed hard

[tranquil sundial]

behind cos thane fury slaps

on reset

[summer shore]

other specs will probably out dps us still

[unreal mountain]

fury get buffed too and they were better before so i think Fury a bit ahead

[summer shore]

But before the buff we were not competitable

Now we are

[latent moss]

20% cleave buff

is very very scary

[languid burrow]

with Col yea

[unreal mountain]

20% cleave buff is brutal

with coll

[languid burrow]

add Collateral too

[unreal mountain]

if you take Cleave talents you gonna crit for 6kk now

[latent moss]

mbg

[unreal mountain]

aoe

[balmy kindle]

Colo gonna be bae

[unreal mountain]

best thing is, they buffed EXECUTE and MORTAL STRIKE finally

[tranquil sundial]

one againt many

[summer shore]

colo is more fun to play in m+ too

[languid burrow]

is there a baseball bat xmog in the game? cuz we swinging for the fences with these buffs

[unreal mountain]

and my most lovely change is the Dreadnaught change, it was totally dogshit before

[summer shore]

I would still prefer soa over dreadnaught

Even in m+

[hot current]

love how slam got 40% buff pvp only

[balmy kindle]

Best part, they even buffed fury

[unreal mountain]

nah i dont know , dreadnaught with good positiong can be hard AOE hit but SOA still better for Single Target

[summer shore]

not many super big pulls

• colo ST was trash

[unreal mountain]

thats true,

if we pick SOA the Single target will be good now

[tranquil sundial]

prob still trash

[summer shore]

eh i think it will be ok

[unreal mountain]

and the Execute damage buff was also needed

[summer shore]

Demolish, OP, MS, Execute all got buffed

[tranquil sundial]

yeah, it was fk trash

at best it mediocre

[summer shore]

im also using two talents that reset MS in keys

[broken arrow]

Just 1 press of Sweeping Strikes and 1 press of Thunderclap? or anything else needs to be done?

[unreal mountain]

all oure Damage and Hero speccs got buffed around 10% overall which was needed really bad

[tranquil sundial]

still prob be last in boss fights

less last tho xd

[unreal mountain]

i still think fury will be a bit better when it comes to overall but not in AOE anymore

Cleave will destroy adds

[balmy kindle]

ideally it should be fury is slightly better but arms is competitive

[unreal mountain]

both specc will be viable and i am super Happy. Specially as some one who only play arms 😄

[summer shore]

imagine cleave with collat + 2 op stacks and avatar/WB

[runic tartan]

we going arms next wednesday? 😄

[summer shore]

1 global we hit for 6m

[granite swift]

Looks like Slayer the ST go to? Over fury

[unreal mountain]

but dont forget reap the storm. 25% is a loooot

[livid cloak]

but this build DOA next week, definitely one against many + mbg take next week

with 20% cleave buff

[unreal mountain]

i will switch to the Cleave talent for sure

with the 20% buff its huge

[livid cloak]

fishy build will pound next week

absolutely

[unreal mountain]

and MBG is a must have, even for Single target gonna hit hard

[summer shore]

i just dont like sks in keys

[livid cloak]

this build gonna dunk real hard

[tranquil sundial]

EB

[summer shore]

i go battlelord instead

[unreal mountain]

you can take out SKS if you dont play the bleed build. At least thats what im doing

[livid cloak]

battle lord might actually not suck next week

with ms buffs

[tranquil sundial]

yee this is gonna be massive

[summer shore]

Battlelord is actually pretty good

[runic tundra]

Fatality my beloved

One day

[livid cloak]

battlelord doesn't really add damage currently

just makes stuff easier

[vital rune]

Will I actually get invited with these buffs?

[livid cloak]

but it might next week

[summer shore]

You are dreaming, wether you do good damage or not warrior dps dont get invited

But now when you get invited you can finally do normal damage that can compete with other specs lol

[vital rune]

Spent probably 2hrs total sitting in queue's this week

I'm at the point that I just give up after 15m

Own key got bricked so that sucked too

[nova marsh]

Honestly

[opal kelp]

Yyyeey, some buffs to us >D

[nova marsh]

Being a warrior is like asking your key to be bricked

[summer shore]

We need either lust or bres tbh

[rancid charm]

If they did top dmg i. Keys they would be invited 100%

[nova marsh]

neither is happening, nor would it actually make a difference honestly

[summer shore]

But how to do top damage when your spec baseline is so much lower than other specs

[nova marsh]

It's time to accept it guys

Arms is a pvp spec

[summer shore]

Now maybe we can compete

[balmy kindle]

Play prot, get into 8-10s easily

W key , no remorse

[nova marsh]

Honestly i'd argue that if you want to play dps in general you have to meta

There's just too competition

[balmy kindle]

you are not wrong, even if u play FDK or ret there's stiff competition

The best DPS has always been the function slaves

[vagrant hull]

Run your own keys it's not that hard

[nova marsh]

Ah yes, run my own keys so instead of sitting in que for 2 hours trying to get into a group I get to sit in que for 2 hours trying to make one

[balmy kindle]

running own keys is a bummer too since you need to filter people lol

the best is still playing tank and signing up to groups that need one

[vagrant hull]

Yes but if you want to dps I've always had luck running my own keys in pugs

[nova marsh]

being a dps in wow is just accepting your life is gonna be shit

[nova marsh]

even if I take all 2.5k people they still can't do a fucking 8

[vagrant hull]

Are you like sub 2k rating trying to get into 10s?

[nova marsh]

I'm sub 2.5k trying to get into 8s

Simply because I'm not like 620 because at this point I kinda gave up

[vagrant hull]

Ouch. I haven't had that bad of a time, luck of the draw I guess

[nova marsh]

I've had better luck getting into lower keys and timing them on my shaman then I ever did on my warrior

[summer shore]

i timed 13 yet declined in 12s

[nova marsh]

And on my shaman I feel like I can actually do a bit more

[vagrant hull]

Anyhow it may be easier after the buffs next week. They seem substantial enough

[nova marsh]

The instant you go above 10s, the gigatoxic meta slaves come out

[nova marsh]

Dude, I'm gonna be brutally honest, no buffs in the entire world will outdo community perceiption of warrior being the worst class in the game

We could get a 50% buff across the board and still be bad

[balmy kindle]

get guildies

understand your frustration tho

[vagrant hull]

I think you're being super overdramatic TBH

But if you don't want to be happy then you do you. I'm stoked for the changes

[nova marsh]

I am too

I'm happy slayer isn't going to just sit there as a raid only spec for the entire xpack

I'm happy we aren't totally fucked and that MS is going to be better with it's nerf reverted, which is something I wanted

But that dosen't mean I can't like...want some utility

just to generally feel more useful then be at the complete mercy of tuning

[rapid bronze]

Can solve warrior utility with a PvP talent that’s already in the game

[rigid lily]

Hi guys i'm a fury one trick which hero talents is meta for you one weapon handler?

[languid burrow]

1000% agree

[dire torrent]

Hey my fellow warriors I'm new in skyhold. How's everyone today

[nova marsh]

This would probally make warrior cracked tbh

[rapid bronze]

No it would make us useful to have

[shadow ibex]

the TR one could never ever be implmented in pve

and 3% stam is insane as well for 20 players

[nova marsh]

Yeah that would be insanely broken

Give 5% more damage to evreything in a pack on a 45% second CD?

[shadow ibex]

only one there even possible would be rally just being another stampede

[nova marsh]

jesus christ

[rapid bronze]

You guys will never learn

Every spec has broken shit

[nova marsh]

Never learn to not be realistic?

[rapid bronze]

It’s okay to want

To be op

[nova marsh]

Yes but I don't want to want because I know blizzard will always dissapoint

[runic tundra]

Battle shout would be 2 raid buffs in one

[languid burrow]

Repurpose Rally Cry to have utility instead of 10% temp stam

[runic tundra]

Even aoe freedom is wild

[shadow ibex]

yea aoe freedom would be od

[runic tundra]

Imagine that on tindral or Queen

Free real estate

[rigid lily]

Only in m+

[fair topaz]

WE ARE BACK BOYS

[rapid bronze]

“It’s okay shamans you can have a rally better than ours we will die at the altar with no bloodlust or battle res either”

[rigid lily]

Tell them Uzza

[languid burrow]

Warriors having Lust would be on brand

[nova marsh]

I mean tbh I don't even think lust would be that useful

[languid burrow]

just saying

[broken arrow]

Rallying Cry Temporary AoE combat rez

[nova marsh]

Like half the total roster has lust at this point

[runic tundra]

Fair but last boss threads or echoes I guess

[nova marsh]

And most lust classes still bring a lot more benefits then us

[rapid bronze]

Allow yourself to dream

[rigid lily]

Just make berserker shout baseline and group wide buff rally cry in m+ to have a damage reduction bring back some kind of banner damage boost from shadowlands gg wp we've utility

[languid burrow]

Shammy and ranged classes have lust

[runic tundra]

Probs not as good if we limit the idea to m+ only

[nova marsh]

If I want to dream

BLizzard actually gives us a rework

And makes arms good

[rapid bronze]

Remember when they gave us a crit banner in DF beta and then removed it and we were all like yeah it makes sense it’s too op

[runic tundra]

Make berserker shout remove all that the OG spell removes

Like why only fear wtf

[rapid bronze]

Embrace your inner capitalist

[languid burrow]

Lust seems more on brand than brez. How would we brez? Screaming "WALK IT OFF!" at someone

[runic tundra]

Barely have sap effects as is

[rigid lily]

I personnally think they'll rework fury warriors cause most capstones are dead rn i don't know much about arms tho

[nova marsh]

arms is in a worse design state then fury

[rapid bronze]

Dps warrior specs are 10 years behind ret paladins in design

[nova marsh]

However, considering fury has always been more popular, you're probally right

[gaunt matrix]

crit/haste,mast

[languid burrow]

Fury is popular cuz the rotation feels good.

[nova marsh]

now I wouldn't say that

[pearl nymph]

we got buffed 😄

[rapid bronze]

How is it we are the best utility in PvP and the worst utility in PvE

Make it make sense

[nova marsh]

Fury is popular because a lot of people like titan's grip

[sick gazelle]

we're so back

[languid burrow]

yeah but Titan's grip is kinda fake in retail

[fossil mantle]

and button mashing to be fair, people like dynamic gameplay

[nova marsh]

Ye \

[runic tundra]

Two big two hander fantasy goes hard

[nova marsh]

And easy rotations

Fury checks all the boxes for that

[languid burrow]

How long is Fury gonna have a meme Single-minded Fury talent node?

[nova marsh]

Until next xpack prob

[runic tundra]

The entire class is due a rework as the only class that hasn't received one since new talent trees

[nova marsh]

Then they'll put titans grip in the tree again

[fossil mantle]

just let them transmog one handers and remove the node, ez

[languid burrow]

^

[nova marsh]

...are we?

[languid burrow]

Yo DKs can xmog 2handers to 1handers and vice versa

[manic river]

Finally we get buffs!

[rigid lily]

We're all asking for it to be removed i swear the warrior talents are kind of a joke rn

[runic tundra]

Pretty sure every other class has had a rework whether in DF or TWW

Obviously to varying degrees

[rigid lily]

Last rework we had was in bfa

[nova marsh]

paladin, locks did, spriest did (I think priest did in general)....

[runic tundra]

Rogues

Mage

[nova marsh]

DH even though it's still kinda garbage to play, rogues....did monk get a rework?

[runic tundra]

Druid needs a class tree rework tbf but they always changing that one up

[broken arrow]

Can't use those cool swords from the trading post a while back cuz they are oversized 1 handers. Why blizz why

[runic tundra]

Monk got WW and Brew

[shadow ibex]

we got a super minor talent look in first tier

[runic tundra]

Mists was a long change process

[languid burrow]

Do we need to donate to some Patreon or something for the Warrior class dev to wake up and rework us?

[shadow ibex]

but only really made it playable

[nova marsh]

...holy fuck

[runic tundra]

Sp yeah every single class bar us

[nova marsh]

Wait hunters got one too?

[runic tundra]

This expac ye

[languid burrow]

I'll donate a whole Gilded Brutosaurus to have the warrior dev wake up

[serene palm]

we should complain more

[nova marsh]

They don't listen

[runic tundra]

Beta cycle they all 3 got

[nova marsh]

we've been asking for a rework since fucking DF

At least

[runic tundra]

Shaman got pt 1 and 2 rework this expansion too

[serene palm]

Oh didnt know new to this game

[languid burrow]

If we could just get the Dev that did the Rogue/DH/Pally rework sub in for a patch. God that would be something

[rigid lily]

Not the dh one

[languid burrow]

The Rogue/Pally dev

[runic tundra]

Dh and rogue are same dude

[languid burrow]

the Rogue dev cooked

Rogues feel good

[runic tundra]

Also DH one was real good wdym?

[thick hamlet]

i honestly expected them to change where our stamina talent is way above

[runic tundra]

It's the lack of any follow up after

[nova marsh]

Na

[runic tundra]

That is where it went downhill

[nova marsh]

just make it 1 point

And remove 2h spec

and then we can always take it

[languid burrow]

The pally devs KEEP cooking. how many reworks they got this year?

[rigid lily]

Dh dashing every 8 seconds is purely aids

[nova marsh]

or make it required for pathing like shockwave

[runic tundra]

That's the edgy ninja fantasy they live by

[manic river]

Also that Collosus single scaling bit by bit 👀

[runic tundra]

My own is why is there so much throughput in our class tree

So much so that I can't even take 10% stamina

[languid burrow]

shhhhh let it power creep

[runic tundra]

Yet dk can take theirs easily whenever

Oh yeah

Cause they got reworked

[rigid lily]

Is colossus good? i wanna try arms but colossus not slayer

[languid burrow]

wait til Tuesday reset

[runic tundra]

I played colossus on silkran and had a blast

[manic river]

Colossus slaps in M+

[runic tundra]

Was it a good idea probably not but nothing was critting anyway

[manic river]

But now is also slowwwly getting better in st, probably not going to be as good as Slayer ever but its nice

[rigid lily]

Arms is supposed to be big meaty hit and fury fast many hits but i felt like arms was doing many little hits when i tried in df

[runic tundra]

You do big hits tbf

[nova marsh]

colo is fine

In keys

[runic tundra]

Well depending on what big hits means

[languid burrow]

Colossus Arms does big meaty hits

[nova marsh]

screenshot worthy damage

Upwards of 5+ million

[languid burrow]

I mean if you count all the hits of Demo when you send it on a crit

thats huge

its like 5-12mil dmg

[rigid lily]

Sold! I'll try wednesday

[thick hamlet]

u know whats about to hit big juicy

collateral damage double overpower, double tier set cleave

99999billion

[languid burrow]

it's like that Adamn Driver meme where he's yelling "MOAR"

[languid burrow]

get your crit and mastery up for that build

[rigid lily]

Got shit ton of mastery from fury gotta find some crit

[daring heron]

hi im here

[languid burrow]

Crit are we back?!

[daring heron]

so back

[languid burrow]

sobs

[hollow wave]

Pretty much this, arms doesn't have a identify, actually all warrior specs kinda feel the same

[languid burrow]

I'll always argue that arms should be braindead

[nova marsh]

Dude I don't care if arms is braindead

I just want it to be fun

[languid burrow]

well fun usually is just zug zug send it

[wheat mica]

seems like pretty chunktacular buffs

[balmy kindle]

cant wait for tuesday, press demolish for BONK

[fair topaz]

Colossus buffs are YUGE I think we could actually do good dps now

[unreal mountain]

the good thing is, they buffed the ST damage of collusus by 15%, it felt useless on single

[tepid citrus]

WE BACK

[hollow wave]

Classic warrior did a great job differentiating arms and fury, in retail they are the same

[unreal mountain]

@daring heron we finally get some buffs

[tepid citrus]

Bout to get back my #1 spot NA back and on Murloc IO again. Arms szn

[runic tundra]

No haste?

[fair topaz]

15% Mortal strike is massive too and don't forget the cleave buff

[rigid lily]

Guys hide yourselves there is a powerful enrager user he's old

[unreal mountain]

@rigid lily i am old actually 😦

[runic tundra]

Oh yeah colo buffs mastery

[languid burrow]

i mean a little haste but not as important

[rigid lily]

Didn't want to answer you that was a mistake my friend

[balmy kindle]

Colo is crit primary

Big yellow numbers

[unreal mountain]

@rigid lily haha np

[languid burrow]

you really really want demo to crit

like badly

[unreal mountain]

Crit/mastery sims big for me

[runic tundra]

I want a lot of things

Like crit gear for one

[languid burrow]

if demo doesn't crit you feel really bad

[runic tundra]

cause playing arms and shit not criting is like some psychological edging

[languid burrow]

lmao

[unreal mountain]

the part i like the most ist, that actually both arms speccs getting buffed and fury. Variety gaming and no trash damage anymore

[balmy kindle]

Yes

[hardy olive]

Guys im scared they will revert the buffs last min

[unreal mountain]

i liek to swap between Slayer/collusus in keys and thats why i appreciate that a lot ❤️ cant wait to play on wednesday

we can finally do +6 keys as Arms

[languid burrow]

yeah idk if warrior dps is +12s worthy but at least we'll have a pulse on Tuesday

[balmy kindle]

[unreal mountain]

@balmy kindle xDD

[manic river]

TRUE I wish they differentiated the styles more

[obtuse sluice]

Were fucking back boys

[river ridge]

Really want them to give Demolish the Chaos Bolt treatment (Always crits, and crit rating adds to damage)

[unreal mountain]

arms is my most loved class. I like the class fantasy. I want big MS and Execute Hits

[obtuse sluice]

nothing feels as good as arms

and they laughed at us

[languid burrow]

that would be a better buff than just 15% more dmg

Demo feels like an on-use trinket in our spell book

[unreal mountain]

anyone has the WA to show the Damage in chat how much we reflected?

[gaunt matrix]

whats the haste cap?

[balmy kindle]

no cap, just sim yourself

[gaunt matrix]

ew

[balmy kindle]

if u are talking ' feelcraft' 20% is like a good spot for me

[cyan oriole]

would be nice if demos final hit always crit or never did. theres always been so much variance in my overall damage depending on if its criting a lot or not

think i got around 37% now and my sims still want more for colossus

[wanton sierra]

aww yiiiis we shall get buffed

[manic stirrup]

no haste cap

17k for slayer is when crit started being higher, but again sim your character

for colossus it was like 12 or 13k haste is what it had me at

iirc

[gaunt matrix]

that should be fine

says more crit, but then more haste after so idk

[fringe moon]

I’m surprised that they buffed warrior the way they did. Would’ve thought there’d be more hero spec related buffs instead of the main abilities

[ripe maple]

We need more zugzug

[regal wharf]

Timed an 8 stonevault

Stonevault, Ara-Kara, and Boralus

Worst keys of the season IMO

[worthy otter]

Well

Finished a NW 12 without a single wipe

[regal wharf]

The first half of NW is fun

[worthy otter]

But overtime by 2 mins

[regal wharf]

The second half is really rough

[worthy otter]

Imo the only difficult part in NW 12 is 2 pulls

the first pull

and the big pull after the 2nd necro after the bridge

[regal wharf]

[worthy otter]

2 min overtime sucks tho :S

[regal wharf]

Dawnbreaker is pretty low tuned so its not that bad

[worthy otter]

I did 1 additional pull so too much trash%

[regal wharf]

Grim batol’s third boss is AwFUL

But the first boss is fun

[worthy otter]

and we had 9 deaths

[cinder verge]

the dragon?

[regal wharf]

Yeah

With the adds that fixate

[worthy otter]

I also did ofc low overall of 800k

[cinder verge]

some tanks like to stick themselves into a corner and never move idk why

for that boss

then you've got like 10 tornadoes swirling around melee

[worthy otter]

i typed all this to arms mb

[severe crag]

Has anyone done math on buffs yet

[ornate mountain]

Are those arms buffs in or next reset

[fringe moon]

I’m happy for the buffs. Unfortunate though that they buffed slayer more than colossus in ST when it was already ahead.

[karmic matrix]

My napkin math makes it about 10%ish using current logs and no changes to talents or rotations in ST, probably around 15-ish AOE, just taking current logs and increasing the DPS of each ability by buff%

[tranquil rapids]

I did the math its better than current arms thats for sure

[nova marsh]

tuseday

Also don't worry, the dooming isn't over yet increased was a typo

[karmic matrix]

Bigger damage on Ms/cleave increases the value on some of the Demolisher talents tho

[nova marsh]

Honestly slayer needed it dude

Slayer this week is literally dead in keys

[fringe moon]

With the buff to execute, I wonder if we end up picking fatality again

[nova marsh]

....no?

Why....why would we?

they didn't buff fatality itself, exe has nothing to do with fatality aside from being able to pop it

Honestly at this rate I think we take Blord before we take fatality

[vast tinsel]

Blord is the worst

[nova marsh]

Blord is fine

Feels so damn good on colossus

[smoky kayak]

Fatal Mark has its own coefficient, which hasn't been adjusted; only way it gets stronger without direct changes is if everything else drops around it

[fringe moon]

Oh ok. I thought fatal mark damage was based on execute damage.

[nova marsh]

na

[smoky kayak]

nop, Exe just pops it

that's one of the issues with Fatality atm; it has its own separate coefficient, except it isn't part of the "class spells," so it doesn't get adjusted when they do aura buffs - they have to tune it individually, which is easy to overlook

[nova marsh]

I doubt we run fatality because part of why it was strong in DF was us being able to buff it significantly with tom

[solid sentinel]

I just want condemn bro

[nova marsh]

Now that tom is dead, it makes fatality weaker cuz we just...can't buff it at all

[smoky kayak]

part of why it was strong in DF is that we didn't have any other talent options either and now we got Bladestorm/Rav + Unhinged

[nova marsh]

True

Unhinged is some extremely stiff compeition

[nova marsh]

I too want my execute to do no damage in exchange for being usable for half the fight.

Altough I will say

if slayer gets a rework, put the absorb from condemm into that one talent that gives SD healing

[solid sentinel]

or remove modifiers from mortal strike and make it do damage by his own

[nova marsh]

I still kinda wish slayer interacted with exe in some way

Like added chance for marks to spawn below 35%

[manic blade]

so arms is back boys? time to swap?

[manic river]

Yeah it's all about what I thought from the beginning with Slayer, is just so pasive and ads almost nothing new, it's the hero talent that says "I do arms stuff but better"

[nova marsh]

Maybe that's why slayer feels good

Cuz it's just arms but better

[manic river]

But many other hero talents on other classes have a good theme or mechanic

Slayer is just meh

[nova marsh]

I get that

[manic river]

It also forces the split between BS and Ravager by focusing on the former, before the expansion you had the freedom of choice between the two, after that is slayer this Colosus that

[nova marsh]

....but

But you didn't

because arms didn't HAVE ravager in DF

in fact to my knowledge arms had just BS for several years

Also really let's be honest

Without slayer, bladestorm is literally never getting picked

[smoky kayak]

Arms lost Ravager in Dragonflight

[nova marsh]

Fury stole it

[smoky kayak]

yup

[manic river]

Yes but we gained it back in the pre expansion, during that short time we could choose

That's what I meant

[remote ledge]

Do you guys predict slayers arms build changes in m+? Or is it gonna stay the same but decent this time

[nova marsh]

Yes but again

[summer heath]

So Arms got buffed ?

[nova marsh]

Blizzard dosen't want what's basically a warrior icon to just be kind of a dead pick

[summer heath]

Dracthyr Arm Warrior time ?

[nova marsh]

Sure, BS does more damage, but unhinged is more valuable

[manic river]

Warriors in general are going to get buffed Falados

[manic blade]

arms is back babyyy

[summer heath]

I kinda wanna make Dracthyr Arms Warrior for fun

Glide + Charge = P{

*Op

and wing to kb off cliffs

[regal socket]

hows arms gonna be looking post buffs? i kinda wanna switch off of mage now that the bis talents are so fucking boring

arms is always fun at its core to me

[nova marsh]

Still worse then mage probably

Better off with enhance or frost

[dire hinge]

[regal socket]

i dont even care about good i just wanna be viable and have fun

[nova marsh]

Then arms is here my friend

It's okay

[dire hinge]

tbf arms talents are very straight forward, could be seen as boring, but also: Arms owns

[nova marsh]

You may not be able to do 15s as arms

But we fuck

[regal socket]

ive been a shaman enjoyer since cata and i cannot even make sense of how badly fucked up the dps specs are. they are irreparably fucked from a gameplay and fantasy perspective. slop careless design

[manic blade]

???

[nova marsh]

????

[regal socket]

last time i played arms was DF with the TOM windows and that was really fun

[regal socket]

?????

[nova marsh]

Tom is dead

Tom is dead af

[regal socket]

hahaha whats the meme now?

whats our thing

[flat willow]

????????

[nova marsh]

We use iftk now on all builds

[regal socket]

i imade this a year ago, would it still be useful?

[nova marsh]

Not really

[regal socket]

relevant or no? idk the new talents

ahh

[nova marsh]

We don't dump

[regal socket]

tfw no dump 😦

[nova marsh]

Until exe

[regal socket]

playing fotm is so stupid its actually hilarious how many broken specs have had their 15 days of fame already this xpac

and then been brought back to normal

[remote ledge]

Idk fdk been #1 since the very first day

[minor gust]

Oh man I love getting off a 13 hour shift to see a long list a buffs

Shit hits pretty hard

[regal socket]

fdk?

[remote ledge]

Frost death knight

[summer heath]

BM hunters got nerfed

[nova marsh]

Good

[summer heath]

So time for arms to take it's place

[nova marsh]

They deserve to suffer for playing a 3 button spec

Oh wait

[regal socket]

sadly i cannot play any pet class because after 20 years they have not made it so multiple pets dont stand inside eachother with all their models overlapping it breaks my immersion too hard

[remote ledge]

Aoe bm is more complicated and interesting than fury aoe

[nova marsh]

That's a very low bar

[summer heath]

Wing's/Charge/Glide and Leap as Dracthyr

[regal socket]

summon a bunch of cool bm pets? theyre all standing inside eachother

and looks like shit

[nova marsh]

Fury is boring

[regal socket]

have fun!

[remote ledge]

Fury could be fun if the damage came from rampage and not from builders

[nova marsh]

Fury could be fun if rampage wasn't as impactful as white bread

[remote ledge]

Yea.. Yet I still enjoy slayer arms with full haste MS doing like no damage

[nova marsh]

Rampage: flail around and pretend you did damage

[livid cloak]

Rampage is a lot more impactul if you play anger management

It becomes top prio

[edgy vector]

rampage feels clunky

[livid cloak]

Reckless abandon is the only reason it's not now

[edgy vector]

lke it is somehow channelled but not

[vast helm]

[nova marsh]

Rampage getting cancelled if you move away is still ass

It's just....annoying

[edgy vector]

yep its counter intuitive to the way fury feels

[regal socket]

do we have an xmog channel

oh nvm

[nova marsh]

Rampageleas fury sounds nice ngl

Just nuke it

[regal socket]

they couldnt fix the helmet gap?

[flat willow]

I use one of the new shirts to cover that

[regal socket]

ohh really? can isee?

i ididnt know that exsted

[slim badger]

boys

we're getting a small buff

[nova marsh]

9% is not small

[slim badger]

okay BIG buff

wonder if its worth going back to slayer for m+ now

[remote ledge]

It is 9% with old build. Some new build could even make more out of the buffs

[keen night]

9% of a candy bar is pretty small

It's all about perspective

[remote ledge]

Fishy build prolly gets more than 9%, more cleave and ms reset so more reap the storm for example

[slim badger]

what is fishy build?

[remote ledge]

EB and battlelord iirc

[keen night]

I just started playing my warr this expac, is colo preferred for m+ rn? I thought it was slayer

[quaint otter]

Actually like it

[smoky kayak]

lolol

[remote ledge]

There were big buffs just announced now. Things will change just play what you enjoy

[summer heath]

someone sim new arm wsrrior changes ?

[nova marsh]

Colo more aoe

Slayer more st and gamba

[remote ledge]

Yes idk as slayer but there's a world where it could work well

[keen night]

Pog I don't like how smash locks me in

[quaint otter]

I dunno i just ran eb and battlelord since m+ available never new it was irrelevant xd

[surreal whale]

PvPer looking for help: is there a rough percent mastery would out scale haste if you had to guess? (you primarily avoid crit). This is from a pvp perspective which is tough to sim given pvp gear boosts to 626/639 in pvp areas while in open world remains very low. From testing my guess is as haste increases (past 20%) mastery seems to slowly catch up for a time. Thanks for any help or suggestion!

[slim badger]

is there a copy build for that fishy build?

[remote ledge]

I meant as colo it feels good, as slayer it's a bit on the troll side, but taking it to fish for reap of the storm procs might be something

[slim badger]

cause i do hate demolish skill where it locks u in place

[quaint otter]

dunno if its the "fishy" i just go this

[remote ledge]

It is a colo build, I just thought it deserves a try on slayer after the buffs

[slim badger]

ah

[slim badger]

thanks

[quaint otter]

it doesnt feel good tho numbers suck yet

[slim badger]

haha

[quaint otter]

aoe is okayish but st ...

[pulsar elk]

And the trumpets blare!!!

[minor gust]

I will be so happy to run battle lord and EB again. Arms is so fucking boring without them

[pulsar elk]

Yeah im curious what talent changes if any will come out of this

[regal socket]

im an arms guy now

[pulsar elk]

In terms of meta i mean not like actual changes

[minor gust]

Prob not enough to change meta

[smoky kayak]

not much tbh, might be something with Warlord's Torment, but the fact that they buffed Execute alongside MS means that paradigm doesn't really change

[minor gust]

These are enough to just make sure we're not shit

[pulsar elk]

Yeahh i mean execute dmg is getting a buff too

Makes sense arch

Yeah im excited for Tuesday

[smoky kayak]

personally I'd have preferred if they buffed MS more, instead of Execute, since that might have actually facilitated changing to Battlelord or whatnot

[pulsar elk]

Been swapping betwene my ret and warrior and was gonna sideline the warrior after this week, but we are soooo back

[minor gust]

You thinking battlelord is at least back on the menu?

[pulsar elk]

Yeah honestly its not like our execute phase was hurting

[smoky kayak]

but I'm pretty happy with what we got, and if they wanna save more comprehensive changes for 11.1, that's fine too

[smoky kayak]

unlikely, because again, Execute was buffed too

[minor gust]

That's really unfortunate we'll see what fishy cooks up

[smoky kayak]

we've already been cooking it lol

which is why I'm answering you right now

[minor gust]

Ahh didn't know if you were working on it with him

[pulsar elk]

Just out of curiosity how do you go about that? Run a sim then multiple damage values of the buffed spells?

Multiply *

Or is it more complicated than that

[smoky kayak]

for most things I override the values

depends on how complicated the change is though, whether effects or just raw numbers

[pulsar elk]

Oh right on makes sense

Just noticed for this its all % gains

No like talent changes or anything

[smoky kayak]

and Blizz isn't always very straightforward with their statements

[pulsar elk]

Ahahah so true

[smoky kayak]

like "buffed the single target damage of Demolish" - does that mean just the first two hits because the third is an AoE, or the first two and the direct damage of the third but not the AoE damage of it?

[minor gust]

Yeah I was reading that and was confused too

I just assumed it's only first two hits

[remote ledge]

Archi, then do you believe in slayers arms in keys and if yes, regular build like in wowhead currently? Thanks

[regal socket]

guys.. can a female niight elf rock tusks of manoroth?!

[smoky kayak]

or "buffed Lightning Strike damage by 30% for Fury" - does that mean buffed its coefficient by 30% (which it shares with Prot), or buff the Fury-specific Lightning Strike modifier by 90% from 50 -> 95, which would be a total of 30% more Lightning Strike damage?

and sometimes what they say isn't even remotely what they actually do either; whether as a result of a last minute change or just an oversight (e.g. a few weeks ago they said they were buffing something just for Fury, but did in fact buff it for Prot as well)

so sometimes it's just a shot in the dark; do your best and wait to see what actually happens after reset

[smoky kayak]

no I don't believe in it, Slayer Arms isn't real, like the tooth fairy and asking random people "how ya doin?"

[pulsar elk]

Ahhaha

[remote ledge]

[nova marsh]

Damm that's brutal

Don't diss my spec

[smoky kayak]

after the changes, Colossus should be noticeably better overall 2T and sustained MT, though Slayer will still have higher priority damage for however much that matters to you

also depends a bit on how you build and whatever changes we may come up with along the way

[remote ledge]

I just dislike demo

There's no copium behind it

[vague nova]

I’m the same way. For what it’s worth you can go mega pad slayer and close the gap on aoe a decent bit

[ivory harbor]

Good day warriors, anyone knows if Demolish removes or immunes the Sticky Web mechanic from Ovinax?

[spice stag]

we have plenty of buttons i dont want to keybind demolish

[thick hamlet]

does this also mean it's unlikely that we'd be using MS more in execute phase?

[smoky kayak]

probably not no, because they both changed by similar amounts

will have to check, because it might loosen up the currently restrictive priority slightly, but it's certainly not gonna turn into spam MS on CD

[ivory harbor]

Wootz Archi is online! Sir, would you happen to know if Demolish removes or immunes the Sticky Web mechanic from Ovinax?

[edgy solstice]

no more sks angle mayhaps

[noble oxide]

Pls

[slow saddle]

Hopefully col can play.eb

[edgy solstice]

it already can

so prob

[slow saddle]

With no loss🤣

[steep osprey]

The mad men did it

Holy

[midnight mural]

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[vague nova]

Played slayer and hit 1.5 mil dps at 608 ilvl. Sadly with Aug in a NW but still, these buffs have me excited 😈 I’m gonna be over 2 mil easy once I get my gear up

[maiden moat]

You know if the versa embalishment is also worth on progress? Or go with weapon emba and take very rare Cloak?

[steep osprey]

Can finally play colossus on st (not)

I’ll take buffs tho

[grave cedar]

Currently progging mythic princess as fury for the extra tankiness (+ my arms set was simming lower than my fury, even with recrafts) but in light of recent news, I'm thinking of swapping to arms. Any of you guys have any trouble staying alive and have tips besides dodging lines and balls

[light vortex]

Try dodging lines and balls

[kind glade]

Imo play the spec you will die the least on

[minor mica]

You unga and then you bunga

[astral yarrow]

Living on that fight is infinitely easier as fury compared to arms

[slow saddle]

I dreamt that martial prowess took a dip and we got 20% better ms, but hey a buff is a buff

[wary stag]

defensive during your dot and line

and pray

[minor gust]

If you don't mind fury you really should just stick with it for princess. After the nerfs the fight is more about living than a dps check. And fury is really good at living. Arms just requires more work to live

[steep osprey]

I wonder if we prio MS higher now or if the Execute buffs made that moot again lol

[slow saddle]

Ye coz arms still needs god

Rotation wise

[minor gust]

rework with legion arms mind sounds good

[grave cedar]

Thanks

[weak willow]

Resetting colossus smash just gives me the dopamine

[tacit crystal]

eles suck

[storm matrix]

currently proging pricess as arms, during the intermissions your gonna have a hard time. spell reflect will avoid one beam on you entirely so its best used for the final set where its the most chaos as you only get 1 use for each intermission, die by the sword is best used on first or 2nd beam as needed based on your safty. if you can insure you wont get hit by a second just defensive stance for the hit then victory rush

[odd nimbus]

Guys, if there are dragon warrior sims?

[grave cedar]

Did you ever spec ignore pain for the intermissions

[balmy kindle]

Maybe you are just good and the ele is ass

[storm matrix]

nah, but if you did you wouldn't have to depend on defensive stance if you don't like using it, handy macro if you dont already have it to 1 button switch stances

/cast [stance:1/2] battle stance
/cast [stance:2/2] defensive stance

[tacit crystal]

amen

[zenith warren]

feels good to wake up to buffs

[gaunt owl]

we want more !

[steep osprey]

is colossus gonna pump in m+ now

ST damage still meh prob

[cunning hound]

blizzard woke up boys

thank the lord

[visual fern]

Single hit of Demo got 15%

📈

[ebon folio]

why no one run sudden death

me execute class y no free execute

[teal fossil]

where do you see people dont run it

[ebon folio]

in the game

[steep osprey]

I'm excited to play colossus in m+ next week

[vagrant furnace]

hey bros, is raidbots updated with the new changes or do we wait for reset?

[visual fern]

Spear colossus

📈

Think of the MBG BMT spear wombo

[quartz canopy]

I assume we wait until reset beecause the numbers would be lying if we trying simming that right now

[vagrant furnace]

aighty thnx

I guess its time to play arms

[steep osprey]

They should increase critical strike chance of demolish

[boreal quartz]

or make it not crittable

and increase dam by 50%

[steep osprey]

Crits boost dopamine

I'd rather demolish has a chance to crit than not crit at all imo

common box L

[steep osprey]

BMT?

[manic stirrup]

blademaster tomrne

torment

[steep osprey]

oh okay

Imagine Cleave crit with MGB, Spear, and CD

filthy

4m+?

[boreal quartz]

10???

lol

[steep osprey]

15??

[boreal quartz]

idk try it out

add transmitter ontop

[steep osprey]

i don't have transmitter

[boreal quartz]

L?

[steep osprey]

yep

[boreal quartz]

myth egg

[steep osprey]

I had it on my vault but due to some hard consideration decided against picking it

[boreal quartz]

[steep osprey]

I have myth shard

at least

[boreal quartz]

just need stones to get my ilvl up

[steep osprey]

got it this week

[boreal quartz]

so im doin normal on colossus xdd

[steep osprey]

and i wasn't even remotely excited

after getting myth shard!!

[misty yew]

Cleave slaps pretty well atm so excited to see it hit even more…

[steep osprey]

I was so dead

now im excited for it

even tho i got it 3 days ago lol

[steep osprey]

we need demolish emote

:demolish

[misty yew]

Yeh man with all buffs bg, cds, and 10’stacka when it all lines up

[boreal quartz]

@smoky kayak is this doable?

[wild kernel]

Are we back on Tuesday?

[boreal quartz]

kinda ye

[wild kernel]

LFG but I'll believe it when I see it

[steep osprey]

we def are back

don't expect to be great tho

in m+ at least

or one of the topp specs

[wild kernel]

I just want to feel a little bit rewarded for playing the spec well... if I play it well

[smoky kayak]

only if Colossus doesn't suck on Tuesday

[boreal quartz]

no emote

[tacit crystal]

sadge

[steep osprey]

[tacit crystal]

hi philliam

[manic stirrup]

i got 3 100s with colossus its good

[tacit crystal]

yeah bro

[manic stirrup]

(slayer was bugged and i competed with under 10 people)

[tacit crystal]

massive crank

[boreal quartz]

alo

[tacit crystal]

xd

can you link log choco

[boreal quartz]

im doin full normal on colo ill blaaaaat

[manic stirrup]

private

[tacit crystal]

💀

what talents then

just wowhead