Imho at least
#arms
teal fossil
Well the gameplay was basically the same
slow saddle
Nope
teal fossil
The main difference is the ms prio in execute
edgy solstice
i don't like cosmetic rage but at least they just committed to it
slow saddle
Ms still did more dmg
teal fossil
Which has nothing to do with the balance of op
teal fossil
We did not play eb until you started gambling for fun in season 4
edgy solstice
now it's like hey, ms still does no damage but you also won't have rage to spend it without pressing nerfed op
slow saddle
We did in season 1
slow saddle
Was equal to bb
edgy solstice
ya EB was bad real quick
teal fossil
Eb was only good on 2t because it rolled twice
teal fossil
Bb was higher
teal fossil
By a good margin
It wasn’t the same at all
I was working on that with aagard
I remember this
edgy solstice
ya same
teal fossil
My nick was “eb was bad” for about 3 months
edgy solstice
i did a night of Terros prog with EB and never again
teal fossil
But anyways going back to it, yeah the ms nerf was def underserved
But op was objectively op for arms
It literally did everything
slow saddle
Had they nerfed tier
edgy solstice
in DF? ya
edgy solstice
solo carried your rage eco, did too much aoe through dn
slow saddle
Never got a rework
slow saddle
Witout it bad play would be somewhat punished
edgy solstice
most of its value just came with getting more 40 rage exes anyway
slow saddle
🤣
teal fossil
And then it give rage through battlelord
Or rage reduction depending on the patch
Now you an ms again even though you mismanaged
slow saddle
Battlelord current iteration is bollocks
teal fossil
Ye
teal fossil
But that’s cuz we lost the op damage on battlelord
Which all comes back to op being op
silk spade
i hate battlelord ngl
edgy solstice
op is where it should be rn tbh
slow saddle
Its ok?
edgy solstice
buff ms a bit and the prio falls into place
flat willow
so how you doing arms coppers
teal fossil
Ye then we can actually ms at 2ep
slow saddle
Exactly
silk spade
Ye then we can actually ms at 2ep
that's how it should be
teal fossil
What a world that would be in
slow saddle
Coz we need less amp dmg
teal fossil
why not just buff baseline ms damage
Because wow numbers are all relative
edgy solstice
EP is a good talent and should be the foundation for how they design the spec until they decide to actually put effort in
slow saddle
As it will always hamstring ms
edgy solstice
MS not being prio even at 2x EP is dumb and should be the first red flag
silk spade
what about EP stacking to 3
slow saddle
Also remove juggernaut!
teal fossil
Ep to 10
slow saddle
Buff baseline exe
teal fossil
Jug is there to make sniping executes worse in m+
slow saddle
So sd proc = nice
teal fossil
Like this game is so shit
flat willow
remove juggernaut is a good idea
teal fossil
Yeah also makes sd worse
slow saddle
Exe shoulndt need to stack to do dmg
thick kelp
Write feedback about how they should change current talents and not that they should remove it all
silk spade
dropping high jugg stacks at >35 has to be the worst feeling i get playing this game
slow saddle
But amps always fucks baseline
flat willow
martial prowess sucks cuz it's 2 stacks, it should be 1 so you'd always want 1 mortal strike between each op
flat willow
no it would make battlelord desirable
slow saddle
2 stacks is fine just half value of amp
edgy solstice
blord would already be desirable if ms actually hit for anything
flat willow
in fact revert everything back to legion
vapid bay
in fact revert everything back to legion
I support
teal fossil
Revert to wrath
iron spruce
didnt think getting into a brd group would be so hard until i saw the item lvls..
teal fossil
Did anyone see that forum post where smf should revert you to wrath fury
flat willow
I'd totally play cataclysm arms in retail
edgy solstice
cata arms feels better than what we have rn tbh
tiny prawn
Hey guys, should i pay attention to how high Ovi'nax Mercurial Eggs are simming ?
edgy solstice
if you don't have a sacbrood ig
tiny prawn
Yeah i have Sacbrood & Mad Queen's Mandate, and Raidbots is telling me to replace the Sacbrood by Ovi'Nax (same ilvl)... which seems a little bit suspect :x
thick kelp
sim is assuming you play ovinax perfectly at 20/10 stats
tiny prawn
Oh yeah it's not happening at all, i love moving too much
boreal quartz
Write feedback about how they should change current talents and not that they sh...
Id remove all but blord and EP i think xdd
Id keep sd
Prolly ip and wb
edgy solstice
fatality, tom, sks, eb, sos, dod 100% need to go
thick kelp
Id remove all but blord and EP i think xdd
Same but
Blizzard wont
we gotta work with what we got
edgy solstice
but doing all that is a rework
and realistically how much of a chance does arms have of being reworked
quasi torrent
non 0
vital summit
maybe for midnight
edgy solstice
you would think it'd be a decent chance with paladin/spriest/mage getting reworks every 5 minutes but yeno
quasi torrent
built like ass maybe
edgy solstice
popularity is prob the biggest factor
thick kelp
if popularity is what gets you reworks we shoulda seen like 8 of them for fury already
edgy solstice
yeah
maybe warr is just the dedicated village idiot class
tho i think fury is generally always in a good spot design-wise
similar to bm hunter
flat willow
I think people are pretty happy about fury's core gameplay
too bad we are playing the worst iteration of the worst version of arms
astral talon
tbh
spark mango
guys does anyone like playing arms like this?
astral talon
demolish plays fine for the most part
spark mango
numbers aside
astral talon
at least in m+
quasi torrent
guys does anyone like playing arms like this?
no
edgy solstice
i like some parts of arms but no
spark mango
i mean if no one actually like current itteration of arms, and playing slam into miniscule Cdr reduction, why arent we getting a rework
flat willow
it is just so much worse than it used to be
spark mango
developers arent playing it, players are
flat willow
because nobody gives a shit about arms woyer
real cave
guys does anyone like playing arms like this?
Nah, honeslty hate it since they removed avatar from AM and every cd is off
edgy solstice
demo is fine, ep is good, being a 2T spec is cool, execute damage profile is cool. but everything that holds it together is shit rn
astral talon
it is just so much worse than it used to be
legion classic when?
astral talon
fucking hell
spark mango
idk , man we have 10 diffrent ways of casting our spells , do you know how hard it is for me to press overpower for opportunist when i have my Ms ready, and fuck skull spliiter
legit
and sometimes during lust its just slam spam
then you get sudden death 1 second after juggernaut is gone, its just irritation every part of it
quasi torrent
demo is fine, ep is good, being a 2T spec is cool, execute damage profile is coo...
me looking for my 13 conditionals to press MS in execute
spark mango
yeah you should see the calcuation that goes into casting Ms in execute
real cave
yeah it sucks, I've mained arms since BfA and I finally rerolled to ele sham start of TWW and holy shit game is fun again 😉
spark mango
Reap the storm also doesnt work anymore in bladestorm
there goes your aoe burst
its not like fury is better in numbers considering counterparts but at least there is some sense in what ability you press
edgy solstice
blizz prob puts in all the conditionals and ramp ups to avoid arms being oppressive in any prio raid scenarios
spark mango
arms makes 0 sense
edgy solstice
and emphasis on dots too for that matter
spark mango
class dev doesnt even main warrior i assume
no warrior main likes this arms
i mean maybe colossus would be ok with Test of might, Exhilirating blows and battelord
but i hate that aswell in raids
flat willow
I'd be okay with deleting tom
and erasing its existence from storybooks
alongside that one argus fury execute video
spark mango
arms has 0 class idenitity, i think we should band togheter, and go to mage discord and ask them how to be bitches, and learn to cry very loud
flat willow
I heard paladins are really good at it too
which would explain their 50 reworks per expansion
spark mango
dude mages have 3 op specs in all content and always crying
for 10 years now
paladins before dragon flight rework were absoloute dogs for a while.
this arms needs a rehaul asap
edgy solstice
ya but the average mage doesn't use half their buttons and dies every mech so they need buffs
spark mango
they only keeping slam for 50yo warriors who are used to pressing it from Classic
flat willow
which one
zenith dagger
Start of tww
spark mango
if i am top dps in raids even which i'm not, the spec looks so bad visually. clunky to play so much that you are either rage capped or rage starved with nothing but slam to press
zenith dagger
That's why I put it in qoutes
spark mango
like this bladestorm goes on for years man, some people like it but come on
i can make coffee and come back during bladestorm
get up and stretch
zenith dagger
get up and stretch
I unironically stretch during arms bs
flat willow
you're rage starved in execute phase
where you don't press slam at all
the design is garbage
spark mango
Not to “well achktually” you but if you’re rage starved don’t press slam
i know how to arms mate i am just stating known issues, arms rage mangement and what you get out of it is bad and has been said by others
flat willow
you don't know what to do with your rage in normal rotation and are just waiting for rage in exec
you can't save current arms
you must burn it to the ground
spark mango
and to top it all off, the ignore pain is so bad
i was using it to dump excess rage while bladestorming like i was used to from before
its so weak
vague nova
Im meming forgive me
thorn pelican
they only keeping slam for 50yo warriors who are used to pressing it from Classi...
except that it has none of what i liked about it
its just a boring filler that has nothing interesting to it
zenith dagger
Sometimes I hit slam too many times and run out of rage out of habit cuz u couldn't run out of rage if u tried in df
spark mango
and also there is this issue that i have right now with mortal strike weak auras that track our tier set
i need to press Ms after i get 2 buffs, but sometimes i get the buff but already doing another execute
all of em are a bit behind for me
and overpower not doing anything in execute phase is also so cringe, just give me rage man
dull fkn button
balmy kindle
goated vault lmao
639 neck 
vague nova
Is OP that bad? 700k average crits (up to 1.6-1.8 mil) and also buffing MS seems strong for filler
astral talon
639 neck <:ZOOMEReyes:721123810992062506>
very rare xD
wary plinth
do unhinged mortal strikes no longer refresh rend during execute?
slow saddle
i dno man
ripe quartz
During execution phase do we only use mortal strike for refreshing rend or with 2x execute buff + 2x lethal blows? :S
thick kelp
Issues are making me unhinged
strange perch
500 issues
fresh spire
Anyone online who wanna bug check for me
Go put ep on a training Dummy and cast ravager see if it consumes it
slow saddle
when are they doing someting about warlords TORMENT ?
how can our class tree be this fackin bad
silent flame
Right time for the myth item
on my rat level war
please give me something good i got brood and myth tier on rogue
:O!!!!!!!!
weapon
naive sage
For the first time ever since I started playing arms warrior I'm thinking of parking it
Enha time bois
gaunt ice
it feels soooo bad
ripe quartz
I'm trying to understand wowhead's rotation section. Why we want to use bladestorm with 2x Executioner's precision?
silent flame
Also radiant or depths for weapon?
mainly doing m+ so i assume radiant rightr
silent flame
What is it like uber high
chrome lichen
For those who use bigwigs, what is the differ between alarm and alert?
sacred zodiac
I'm trying to understand wowhead's rotation section. Why we want to use bladesto...
just sims highest out of all conditionals they probably tried for bladestorm
bladestorm casts mortal strikes with unhinged ye
wintry scroll
I'm trying to understand wowhead's rotation section. Why we want to use bladesto...
It procs the buffs with unhinged ms
wintry scroll
Also radiant or depths for weapon?
mainly doing m+ so i assume radiant rightr
We don't need more radiant main stat everyone plays with depths i guess
We're capped either way might as well do prio dmmg
silent flame
Oh rlly?
sims said radiant was higher huh
wintry scroll
Probably for aoe
Im pretty sure depths is higher in ST always
Unless they nerfed it
Or shadow buffed radiant cuz some dev bought it
silent flame
Yea
im just giddy and hapyp as fuck i got a mythic weapon
cause the alt is like 580
and i managed to do a 10 no leaver last night
dull turtle
im just giddy and hapyp as fuck i got a mythic weapon
gg, next week arms is nerf again ^^
silent flame
Meh
my main assa is buffed
which it very much neede
not good at all. promise
Tbh tho
arms is a fucking blast rn in keys for me
so fun
median fox
Did the patch break SS animation for execute and MS?
silent flame
Wha
It's an alt
so i dont gotta do max dmg
im not pushing anything high
just chilling with the boys
doing some keys
having a laugh, lil giggle
slow saddle
But doing the least dmg
tall flare
mmm
slow saddle
Dno man dont like being carried
silent flame
Fair
slow saddle
Collosus i enjoy more
tall flare
i mean
slow saddle
But feels like im carried😅
silent flame
I might try it ouy
tall flare
ya get carried as Fury anyway
silent flame
For me on my main its just
can ads live for more than 20ish seconds
I blast
if not
f
slow saddle
Ofc
silent flame
Fairs
I just need SOME time to ramp on assa
slow saddle
Ret ad welø
slow saddle
But ret is often bad🤣
silent flame
The spec or the players
slow saddle
Players
slow saddle
Spec is great
silent flame
Yea
slow saddle
When i meet good ret i get rekt
silent flame
I haven't met a good ret minus one guildie that obliterated me in dps
thorn pelican
probably just uptime and positioning
flat willow
but they lose less dps than any other melee thanks to having 30 yards on all abilities
the spec is idiot proof and somehow
somehow they find a way
slow saddle
Fuck if i know
thorn pelican
i mean in m+ you still wanna like be in mobs and use ur cones in the right direction
im not saying its hard but like theres still
slow saddle
But dmg variance is insane
thorn pelican
opportunity to miss
thorn pelican
ik its a goofy comparison but like classic raiding as a warrior
u only had like 3 buttons
but the overall at the end of the raid still had like 50% variance from the best players to the worst
slow saddle
Ret fr is what arms collosus shouldda been!!
sharp wyvern
Fury only has 3 buttons
astral yarrow
you can say cap whenever
ripe quartz
It procs the buffs with unhinged ms
That makes sense ty
flat willow
tall flare
oh nice they reintroduced the bug on first boss in siege that can grip u and insta melee u
cloud gyro
its anniversary event, they reintroduced old bugs to celebrate
sharp wyvern
Its like last week didn't happen
cloud gyro
brutal finish works now atleast
winter robin
Is arms getting a rework or something? Coz this feels weird!
I think we are in need of a buff.
sharp wyvern
No
strange perch
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/851206644725317692/1298558868682575913/...
Basado
Are we eating good arms bros or are we bricked? Give it to me straight mates, don’t hold punches.
sharp wyvern
We are slightly worse than last week
fresh spire
Not as good as ele shaman that much is true
Even then looking at current raid logs fury just not in top 100 for actual aoe bosses anymore. Ele shaman just fucked
tall flare
ye blizz kinda shit on us, over and over again
sharp wyvern
They need to nerf fury again so I don't have to play it on ovinax and rash
astral yarrow
They need to nerf fury again so I don't have to play it on ovinax and rash
or queen plz
just let me wallow in arms rest of farm
hardy mantle
Are you guys gonna roll a dractyr?
wary dune
They need to nerf fury again so I don't have to play it on ovinax and rash
Arms is very good for rash if you have add damage
rancid willow
Here’s the good news: arms is so undesirable right now that no one is playing it at higher keys.
Maybe…when they buff us, those of us who stuck with arms and got gear will have a slight advantage over everyone who re-rolled enhancement!!! We’ll get in groups!
fresh spire
They nerfed the shit out of dractyr
Also.dont get the thick model the warriors have in starting zone
If you turned into that guy instead. I'd consider jt
wintry scroll
nah, bs is so bad you only press it as your last rotational option over slam
Why what happend
slow saddle
Just.make ravager work on arms slayer
Why not.blizzard
Then i can get behind slayer
Also holy fuck enhance shaman and elemental does crazt dmg atm
In raid
ripe maple
Do we use Cleave with Sweep or do we just use MS
cloud gyro
Are we eating good arms bros or are we bricked? Give it to me straight mates, do...
bricked
slow saddle
Do we use Cleave with Sweep or do we just use MS
Depends on targets
But most often we just rerolled
ripe maple
Wdyym rerolled?
astral yarrow
Why what happend
just doomed a doomer dw
leaden blaze
hi , sweeping strike doesn't work or it's just the animation ?
fresh spire
Someone said animation was not correct last night
thorn pelican
seems to function fine
leaden blaze
Alright thank you
slow saddle
Wdyym rerolled?
Reroll to dk and enjoy life
ripe maple
Never :) I rerolled from Frost DK to arms lol
thorn pelican
welcome aboard
slow saddle
Never :) I rerolled from Frost DK to arms lol
Lol worst play wæever
ripe maple
Best play
slow saddle
True now when u suck u can blame tuning
🤣
But plz do say why u would ever reroll from dk in tww
ripe maple
not a meta hoe
slow saddle
So what?
ripe maple
i just enjoy the arms fantasy, having fun w it 😄
ripe maple
I dont like DK anymore, I just prefer warrior arms. Hence i'm in the arms warrior discord? :)
ripe maple
I dont have any issues :) I'm just here to clarify how to use Sweeping strikes most efficiently :)
slow saddle
Well cleave doenst sweep
Ms sweepsso
Number pf targets
Health of moba
Prio targets
All this matters, also what build u are running
ripe maple
M+ colossus w ravager
thick kelp
Folllow Cleave ms op prio above 4 and ms cleave op below 4 when ss up
if ss down just cleave ms op always
if u play DN cleave op ms prio
ripe maple
lmao huh? fr?
astral talon
ye
sly venture
Fury only has 3 buttons
Doesn't every spec?
astral yarrow
most specs only have 3-5 buttons you use "rotationally"
wanton sierra
shiet they didnt fixed it
sly venture
Wait what, they still call is Warbringer? Maybe it's a hidden code for something we bring to the table, a hidden utility Warriors for some reason don't know about.
vital summit
Too much PVP damage
vernal crypt
50% ap? Hooooly no wonder they need to nerf it
wanton sierra
i mean, ppl in rbg that must ve complained... coz we cant have more than 5 targets on arenas, maybe world pvp i guess... way too op to charge and deal dam in a large cone area, must nerf it
too many one shottin targets by arms, and the reason is warbringer aoe xD
vital summit
probably nerf to AoE world farms IDK
regal wharf
Holy shit this update is so cooked
somber dome
do we use bladestorm during execute phase at all?
regal wharf
Twitter
somber dome
or just overpower > exectue > MS at 2 stacks?
regal wharf
plush belfry
is cooked a good thing or
shadow ibex
shiet they didnt fixed it
Nah it really made it to the final notes
Yo these clowns I fuckin swear
slow saddle
they were prob afraid of 100 warriors charging 6 healers
nova marsh
https://x.com/hopefulqt/status/1848859245263130714?s=46
THATS WHAT YA GET FOR BEING A CASTER. SUFFER
vagrant hull
Silken court is not my strong fight. Any tips? I was doing colossus for the first time ever and also learning how to use treaturous transmitter but even before I seem to always under perform on that fight.
We lust on the first clothesline
slow saddle
wel do tanks make sure u got mobs close
old urchin
Is your team stacking the bosses?
vagrant hull
Stacking yes, we eventually get the mobs to boss but not quickly.
old urchin
Colossus still not better than slayer on council. Run improved sweeping strikes and thunderclap. You’ll have SS up after every charge/intermission. You should be blasting.
The little adds are inconsequential hit them with tclap when they’re close and continue pumping the bossss.
If colossus smash is off cd and the bosses are close to being back in range of each other hold it if SS is also available. Not forever but that fight lines up pretty well with CS widows and bladestorm.
Don’t hold bladestorm or CS when the scarab boss is doing the brown circles just send it.
vagrant hull
Ok, I don't seem to see a difference between using Avatar on pull vs first clothesline. Is it worth holding? I can't remember if it equals one less use or not.
shy dagger
eh, it may be dumb but maybe didnt notice, when either boss gets stuned they take extra damage
old urchin
Never worth holding avatar for more than a few seconds or for a huge burst windows. Send it on CD unless the 100% damage debuff is seconds away
shy dagger
either the scarab after charge or the caster after dispels
vagrant hull
Right so I've been using it on pull which means it's not up for first charge and lust.
old urchin
Holding it for that long is not worth.
You’re losing an entire use of it over the boss fight. It’s a long fight and that’s a big dps loss
old urchin
You’ll still have CS and SS and you can save potion for lust as it’s a long fight you’ll still get a second
slow saddle
Brutal finish now ?
vagrant hull
Makes sense. Thanks guys ill try some tweaks and go back to slayer
glacial moat
We're there build changes due to yesterday or nah
vital summit
Yes, you go Arms > Enh Shaman
livid cloak
Silken court is not my strong fight. Any tips? I was doing colossus for the fir...
Heroic or mythic?
vagrant hull
Heroic
livid cloak
Holding lust for the charge seems like a dumb idea
Send cds and lust on rip and stack bosses. Are you doing the wowhead 2t build?
With bm torment?
vagrant hull
I was last night but I usually do a slayer build
vagrant hull
No I modified it and never went back to check. I'd have to log in and look at the build but that isn't it
livid cloak
I'm not a great raiding arms but here is my log in that fight from 2 weeks ago if you want to compare timelines and build
It was a solid kill. You should be using a specific build for silken court and maximize your sweeping strikes
Making sure you're refreshing rend, landing sks and cs with sweep
And are you getting to execute phase before the crab boss goes solo at the end for the shield break?
vagrant hull
For the donuts? We may hit execute at the tail end of that phase
livid cloak
Its really beneficial to be in execute for that shield section
Makes a difference
You guys should just on pull for sure
livid cloak
And you should do the better 2t build
vagrant hull
Yeah ill definitely check the build
manic river
Hello fellow arms, I'm back with the patch, how is it doing for us?
sick gazelle
Everything is fine. 🙃
rapid bronze
how is everyone's reroll plans going
vagrant hull
Didn't feel awful last night for raid. Seems the dks are not as hard to beat on logs and ret is crazy
flat willow
how is everyone's reroll plans going
I went from death knight to death knight
feeling great
astral talon
Kinda gae
flat willow
I just wish I could have done a 40M with reaper's mark before the nerf
33M will forever be my max
astral talon
Skarmorak?
astral talon
I had 22mil demolish last hit on skarmorak once
slow saddle
U are rooted and mob.needs to be rooted
Good times🤣
Hear me out what if it stunned mob u targeted
astral talon
rank 1 sikran as colossus ainnoway
I call cap
Send proof
Send build
And is it mythic
Or hc
manic stirrup
astral talon
No fucking shot
manic stirrup
manic stirrup
manic stirrup
it sims like 50k dps behind slayer
i actually messed up a demolish
thought i could cast it before sikran charged
thorn pelican
if ur demos crit ur crankin scenario?
astral talon
Okay
So im going demolish
Ill int my guild by doing it probably
But hey, it is what it is hahaha
manic stirrup
had decent ms and demolish crit variance but bad execute variance
my broodtwister couldve been a lot better
slow saddle
Spec is made for 2 target cleave still worse than slayer
astral talon
Now, do you line up demolish with cs
manic stirrup
but i overcooked build
astral talon
Or send both whenever?
manic stirrup
i send both whenever
astral talon
Fair
slow saddle
I mean unless 2 x dmg is coomin up i presume
astral talon
No battlelord no eb?
manic stirrup
astral talon
Hmmmm
astral talon
Fair enough I guess lol
manic stirrup
for sikran?
cloud gyro
ah this was for sikran?
manic stirrup
yes
gaunt owl
Colossus need love
slow saddle
A lot ye
gaunt owl
Stop showing those 100%
slow saddle
It was the arms fantasy i wanted
gaunt owl
Like 20% MS buff
astral talon
Do you have private logs?
cloud gyro
what about sikran
manic stirrup
rank 1 of 220
slow saddle
Meanwhile ele doing 1.5-1.6m
cloud gyro
why execute stack over ms crit damage?
slow saddle
😅
scenic obsidian
livid cloak
I've been gearing heavily towards crit mastery anyway, was planning to do colossus in heroic this week
Now I'm excited
shy dagger
a 606 golem gearbox sims higher than 619 mark of khardros, maybe some of the brd trinkets on heroic are good
valid flame
Slayer felt much worse than usual in raid last night. Is it over?
livid cloak
It was never under, just fight through the pain
valid flame
fresh spire
Rumor has it When he shines he is at his most powerful
Gonna do colossus mythic today probs
livid cloak
It seems weird colossus takes torment
It does sim better than uproar, but still seems weird to me
For st raid
fresh spire
It sims better becuase you fit demolish into it
Demolish critting on average would be more than roars damage
Full gear + Warlords makes it have 60+% crit
livid cloak
Oh so it's just the bonus crit rate from reck giving the value?
Ah
That makes a lot of sense
fresh spire
It gives the 20% crit just 25% of the 100% rage gen
livid cloak
🙏
fresh spire
Kinda useful for execute rage gen even just a little
Though. It sims very close
Like within 2k
livid cloak
Idk why but in my head I just assumed it was all 25 percent, but you're right it's just the rage
fresh spire
Still very odd arms torments are just a gain where fury and prot have alternate procs
The old days
icy mulch
If they relinked it to Cs instead of avatar
Whoa whoa, this is Blizzard we're talking about here. Logic is a bad word to them.
fresh spire
Throw back to when cs gave 3 second of reck
fresh spire
regal wharf
the class tuning is atm
regal wharf
sorry i mean X, the everything app
icy mulch
Twitter and Reddit are both cesspools.
fresh spire
Everything is worse when it's viewed on twitter
livid cloak
Twitter and official forums will rot your brain
tacit crystal
sorry i mean X, the everything app
based
fresh spire
But rn tuning is fucjed
regal wharf
Twitter and official forums will rot your brain
oh trust me I learned that from FFXIV forums dude
tacit crystal
Twitter and official forums will rot your brain
what do you think is
fresh spire
🙏
regal wharf
oh trust me I learned that from FFXIV forums dude
people are so stupid
manic stirrup
colossus still likes a lot of haste
tacit crystal
i held vault for mythic raid
tacit crystal
got legs took shoulders
cloud gyro
played some colossus on st
tacit crystal
But not much
was like 50k
cloud gyro
it feels strong
fresh spire
regal wharf
good god this season is so rough
livid cloak
Just get 11s
livid cloak
colossus still likes a lot of haste
I'm kinda cursed rn, will be about 13k crit 10k haste 10k mastery with my gear after upgrades
Is what simmed best
cloud gyro
i got 639 rashanan neck and 639 sikran neck
livid cloak
Had 16k crit, I'll miss it
cloud gyro
im at 20k crit if im playing colossus
tacit crystal
seam are you all 11s
livid cloak
Yeah
tacit crystal
join a pug
livid cloak
I've thought about trying to pug first 3 to 4
tacit crystal
i think people regularly do 4/8
livid cloak
Oh yeah?
cloud gyro
first 4 as pug is pretty easy
livid cloak
I may try it, I just really like doing keys, or flying around mining while I watch cartoons
Sometimes after a day at work, getting my 3 year old to sleep, i just wanna watch brain off stuff and pick up rocks
tacit crystal
maybe go play stardew
livid cloak
No I'm too old for new (to me) games
tacit crystal
no schizos interacting with you about their class
livid cloak
Lol
Tonight my plans are to help my wife make a swords bard in dnd then she will make my drac thyr warrior in char creation
True love
tacit crystal
surely you go nelf instead
livid cloak
I'm nelf rn
livid cloak
Race changing
livid cloak
Yeah if I don't like it just go back is w/e
livid cloak
Nah I have 2 banked from when they were on sale and
Like when you're old, the time it takes to make 30 bucks isn't that bad
tacit crystal
yeah i know
do you want to know how long it takes me
365 days
no job just school
livid cloak
Lol
faint star
Fellow arms warriors, I have double Duskthread. Is it worth to change to Ascendace when I craft my 636 Claymore?
livid cloak
Nah
silk jetty
Does Duskthread stack when I get 2 of them?
livid cloak
Yeah
silk jetty
ty!
boreal quartz
lazy stay winnin
tacit crystal
im going to be lazy this week on warrior i think
aug vault more prio atm
can just take socket and still win
thick kelp
Opnion on my Ret paladins first vault
regal wharf
ret pali so inherently bad
boreal quartz
Opnion on my Ret paladins first vault
nice
hollow wave
This is definitely the patch of bugs
ashen rampart
So i was playing enha and arms this season and now I just feel like shit after the nerfs
shadow ibex
just wait for your favorite spec to roll titanforge
surely arms will be blessed by RNG
bronze wharf
yeah lmao
icy mulch
The fact that all three Shaman specs are in there is cracked.
The healer one us basically R sham where the DK is.
Only looks worse.
icy mulch
It's literally just r sham
manic stirrup
Ngl this m+ season feels like shadowlands s1
that season was pretty decently balanced
compared to others in literally the same expansion
icy mulch
It was still a ranged dominated meta, but at least there was a couple different healers. Though Holy paladin was insanely broken.
hazy flower
It should go in odd numbers in terms of good seasons
warped ether
I made a shammy a few days ago 595 ilvl
warped ether
I get inv to 7-8s
icy mulch
S2 of DF was fubar due to Aug.
hazy flower
It was still shit
warped ether
S2 of DF was fubar due to Aug.
It was aug season
cunning pond
What was bugged with brutal finish? Is it the go to now?
manic stirrup
Df s1 good, df s2 bad, df s3 good, df s4 bad
first half of s2 good though
so u have to account for longer downtime
for bad season
cunning hound
is sweeping strikes bugged or animation i can't tell
shadow ibex
warbringer devs
we're so lucky to have people who cant even be bothered to get an ability correct in patch notes
teal fossil
I’m surprised that actually went through to official notes
balmy cradle
did they nerf warbreaker or warbringer?
shadow ibex
I’m surprised that actually went through to official notes
why
they dont give a shit
its nice to have confirmation that not a soul among them has ever played the spec tho
silk spade
xdd <@235857431492558848>
Madge
limber prairie
Hi fellow Arms enjoyers, does anyone tried Algari Alchemy Stone trinket?
thick hamlet
do not be alarmed
slow saddle
Df s1 good, df s2 bad, df s3 good, df s4 bad
Pre aug season 2 god tier
hazy flower
first half of s2 good though
it was like 25% of the season tho
slow saddle
?
fossil mantle
any of the BRD trinkets any good for us? The crit rock looks interesting
slow saddle
Arms was decent in season 2 no?
gaunt owl
it was ok but not at first
in every patch in DF we got huge buff
thats how we ended up top ST in S4
shadow ibex
Arms was decent in season 2 no?
no
def not compared to the other plate dps. was a mythic nel 1 trick
you werent beating anything meta on a pure ST fight assuming equal gear and skill
zenith dagger
s4 arms my beloved, where have u gone
thick hamlet
ok oklook
keep dps on the low side
buff survivability like crazy,
i wanna feel like a WARRIOR again
shadow ibex
same shit different patch
give it 3 weeks
and a couple wowhead articles about mythic dps rankings
and we'll get our trademark 6% aura
just in time for prog to be over
zenith dagger
arms will get a buff and fury will get another nerf for being top dam on two bosses
shadow ibex
we'll get an aura buff so it can be on top on farm and people will be like wow arms is so good
signal coyote
hey so is sweeping strikes straight up bugged?
zenith dagger
Clunkyness
wasnt the goal to git rid of arms clunkyness and they made it worse
slow saddle
@zenith dagger think so
slow saddle
But thats coz slayer is 1000% made for fory
zenith dagger
just give me big whirlwind back and ill be happy tbh
slow saddle
And collosus is just so clunky deluxe
They made bladestorm fun good
Nerfed it for arms
Coz fury has of
zenith dagger
i clean around the house while im waiting for arms bs to finish
alpine burrow
hey guys got a random question about catalyst charges, it says we can have a max of 8 per character. But does this mean that after I get 8 chargers, I don't get any more? or can I get more charges if I use some of the 8 charges
slow saddle
Collosus is also easy fix, let smash either stun.mobs, or let it work like rets ashes
zenith warren
btw how arcane mage is getting 10% st buff while arms 0?
livid cloak
Ask John blizzard
slow saddle
Collosus is also easy fix, let smash either stun.mobs, or let it work like rets ...
And buff ms so its worth playing battlelord + eb
Coz thats how col was supposed to be pøayed
cunning hound
btw how arcane mage is getting 10% st buff while arms 0?
it was reverted
they got nerfed in the end
sweeping strikes deffo bugged
signal coyote
awesome
shadow ibex
is second target not being hit or smth
signal coyote
seems like not
dawn notch
anyone knows if ovinax trinket resets stacks before pull?
icy mulch
Can we all just agree that being able to proc a reset of CS is more dopamine than proc of execute?
icy mulch
I loved it back in Cata, almost made me play classic version of it.
cunning hound
is second target not being hit or smth
yep
regal wharf
Idk i love the feeling of execute after execute again and again
Makes me feel powerful
slow saddle
Can we all just agree that being able to proc a reset of CS is more dopamine tha...
If execute did the tc from season 3...
It would be dope
cunning hound
fuck that tier set horrible
slow saddle
Naj
It was good for execute
And esp sd procs
Just remove juggernaut replace with that t
gaunt owl
tier set was cool dopamine
but cool stuff cant be for warrior
so they dont reuse the idea
when it could have been in fucking Thane
regal wharf
If execute did the tc from season 3...
Omg dude… S3 tier set was bananas
slow saddle
Yeah
waxen depot
guys, do you too sim better to stack mast/haste gems vs unique colors for the blasphemite?
slow saddle
Nope but trust sim
grand idol
I just use the movespeed gem. you will never ever notice that .6% crit damage but you sure will notice 8% movespeed.
waxen depot
realized this is arms channel, gonna ask in fury but thanks
we have move speed talent that overwrites blasphemite movespeed
its negligible anyway i think
slow saddle
I just use the movespeed gem. you will never ever notice that .6% crit damage bu...
Hmm actually big brain
grand idol
Id still be using the 5% movespeed gem if it didnt get gutted to speed stat.
twilit burrow
if things get changed from talents where can i find new talent trees?
mellow seal
i want to bring back spamming condemn like the prepatch for df
icy mulch
Animation was good, but changing it from physical to shadow damage was ass.
ionic cradle
hey guys, any pieces of gear from the new heroic blackrock depths actually worth going for?
for arms
icy mulch
Heart of Rocco isn't bad if you can get it on hero track.
ionic cradle
yeah that one looks tempting tbh
dim sleet
Is there a timewalking raid this week in addition to BRD?
ionic cradle
nope
shadow ibex
sick gazelle
Brd is the raid
slow saddle
Brd is pain🤣
icy mulch
It was kinda cool doing all those old dungeons again. No way do I want to spam em though.
Though the power leveling... it would be the time to max level whatever ya want.
sick gazelle
Vanilla dungeons hit different
It is a shame dungeon design changed for linear corridors immediately in tbc
manic stirrup
happens
feel like arms is just casino
either getting good sd procs as slayer to keep jugg up
or crit rng with colossus
tacit crystal
i wish i got to kill rashanan this week
🙂
guess who had to sit because of packet loss
thorn pelican
tacit crystal
I also died
astral talon
ok so both specs are just "get sudden death at good moment"
tacit crystal
correct
haughty tiger
so if im just memeing around in m+ trying to get juiciest demolishs without worrying about pushing/ST what talents we looking at
Torment and chapmions spear inc crit?
tacit crystal
yes they are back
astral talon
that is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ass
wtf XD
nah bro
well, survi got some rework
so might as well play that O_O
astral talon
i got dh and survi on speed dial O_O
rancid zinc
dh is still bugged and garbage, don't bother
gaunt owl
Lethal Blows benefit Unhinged but dont get consummed somehow
shadow ibex
thats just par the course for how it affects BT imo
like bloodbath isnt consmed
is MP cosumed? ik ep is
gaunt owl
MP is
minor gust
Gimmie back unhinged procing reaping
You savages
I have a shitty worm boss and adds to murder
thorn pelican
seems normal
gaunt owl
nothign wrong with this
cunning hound
when they bug classes they do broken dmg
full furnace
at least we're not in last place
tacit crystal
cope
shadow ibex
thats the arms warrior standard
tacit crystal
im playing deathknight arms
thick kelp
at least we're not in last place
istg elemental moves further everytime this graph gets posted