hes playing with a FDK that does 2M2 overall without aug
#arms
remote ledge
astral talon
sheesh
wanton sierra
so he is just spinnin and gettin carried xD
wanton sierra
damn i mean, how can an booster be top 1? that means our class is forgotten... there is like 100 arms playin as main
astral talon
ye but everyone plays fury
cuz its better
only casuals play arms
we play arms cuz its fun for us
but if any of us wanted to properly boost
we'd play fury
or we'd be trolling
wanton sierra
so the fix for us is buffin ms in like 30% and remove SS from globals? xD
astral talon
nah
we'd need collateral damage to be reworked so its instant xD
and make CS give 10 stacks of collosal might
that would make it MUCH better in m+
wanton sierra
nice idea, i mean, cs should give stacks indeed... idk about 10 but some
how could colateral dam be instant? i dont mind the way it works
astral talon
Instant 10 stacks, increased cd of SS, every swept hit reducing cd by x seconds
But that could make it too good on ST xD
wanton sierra
yea cleave would be an ST button when buffed
i farm like 11 -13 colateral strikes on normal rotation
vast helm
somebody save Arms plz.
paper gulch
and make CS give 10 stacks of collosal might
Or make colossal might no longer have a duration. Change how the CDR works like critcake said.
astral talon
that would be nice too
either of those would be great
duration imo is okay because it encourages constant pulling and doing dmg
nova marsh
Remove collsal might and just make the buffs that work off of it flat
And just buff demolish
ZThen just make the CDR based around MS cleave and exe casts, with MS crits giving more off as it does now
vast helm
strange perch
I can’t believe they took a great expansion and just decided to ruin it.
Every expansion that warriors are not top dps in ends up
Being a trash expansion. Extrapolate out for all time you’ll see I’m right
balmy kindle
just got my 636 wep courtesy of GL and my colo patchwerk sim is a whopping 863k
granted this is an aoe spec, but lmao
summer elbow
just got my 636 wep courtesy of GL and my colo patchwerk sim is a whopping 863k<...
But good as retri?
balmy kindle
What do ya think, I am pretty dead sure while you can catch up with Ret in aoe somewhat, pretty tall task to beat him in bosses on keys
mint spindle
how come we dont use the Warbreaker talent in m+?
astral talon
we do on collosus
astral yarrow
how come we dont use the Warbreaker talent in m+?
the single target loss is pretty big compared to the aoe loss in general. If all you want is aoe, then yeah, its ran ^^
astral yarrow
icant man
tacit crystal
slight crank
boreal quartz
arms on ovinax mythic kinda fun ngl
how so
ionic latch
for which fight
austere hamlet
good god this fishy eb build slaps
astral talon
ovinax mythic lmao
ionic latch
slide ya talents brudda
let me peep
astral talon
GAMING
@boreal quartz with the blessing from critcake imma do fury dmg as arms
fuck dem worms
smoky kayak
arms on ovinax mythic kinda fun ngl
I actually suggested this for our second Warrior, cause he was having problems putting out as much add damage; definitely think it's a strong play in groups with multiple AoE blasters
astral talon
I actually suggested this for our second Warrior, cause he was having problems p...
MASSIVE damage, 100%
it feels kind of awkward on pull
if you get bad resets on battlelord
i usually send demolish on pull with like 5 stacks or so
i play sudden death too for more stacks from rng
astral talon
we also just started the progress like 60min ago
ye i was thinking about going EB too
smoky kayak
I ran sudden death as Fury with AM Slayer too; it's non-standard, but it gets more reliable rage generation and imminent demise stacks
smoky kayak
small optimizations, but I was blastin so 
astral talon
and no sudden
im kinda afraid of going out of rage
maybe ill drop sks for bloodsurge
hmm
astral talon
i like rage generation of battlelord
id 100% try both actually
main focus is getting demolish off
but then again, this is only important for pull
cuz after that its demolish every egg break
and one between cannisters
rn im running this
just swapped to EB
without sudden
only to get more consistent demolishes going between cannisters
and on pull
terse plume
how is arms vs fury in keys right now, been thinking of switching for a few just for some variety
astral talon
how is arms vs fury in keys right now, been thinking of switching for a few just...
fury better
loud wadi
Ty
austere hamlet
rn im running this
why no cdam? egg breaks are too far between to hold it after sweep or?
austere hamlet
I see
midnight mural
i like rage generation of battlelord
u streaming this stuff?
i wanna see arms blast
astral talon
eb+bl feels very smooth
summer elbow
i appreciate it
livid cloak
I'm thinking of dropping ep in that build for 2/2 BB
Idk how much value ep gets without massacre or sd
vagrant hull
Are there better M+ builds other than the wowhead one? It's what I use, but I feel like my aoe dmg is low. Slayer
tepid citrus
how is arms vs fury in keys right now, been thinking of switching for a few just...
Both do about the same dps overall. Arms will always be squishier though
Arms Slayer is low dps. Because it keeps catching stray nerds due to fury sadly.
They should give arms double BS but they won’t
loud raptor
On tyrannical weeks do you guys swap to slayer? Colossus is fun but I think it lacks single target damage
shadow ibex
boss dmg is gonna be even worse but thats colossus i guess
tepid citrus
On tyrannical weeks do you guys swap to slayer? Colossus is fun but I think it l...
Lacking ST is an understatement lol. It’s prob the worse ST in the game
I play COl either way though if I’m arms. It’s just more fun
astral talon
okay
ovinax on mythic is kinda fun
feels like a proper aoe mythic boss
reminds me of that boss in nyalotha
astral talon
103 now <:deadge:900279927138578432>
we got to 50% after like
20 pulls
i dunno
we somehow do this boss quite well
boreal quartz
last part is hard
astral talon
we haven't gotten to it yet haha
we're kinda dying to swirlies
and
ye
that's all
swirlies
astral yarrow
the swirlies being able to triple stack is an atrocity
shadow ibex
^
astral yarrow
able to stack at all even is
astral talon
ye xD
quasi torrent
actually the worst boss in the raid
design wise its bad
however court is even less fun to me
astral yarrow
i think the insta kill should get got
but idk i kinda like dance fights like that
do we think we're killing queen sub 300 pulls
200*
bronze wharf
eb+bl feels very smooth
I just checked out your build because I saw it earlier today and it slaps. high dopamine gaming, would recommend, maybe not on gb lol
astral talon
I just checked out your build because I saw it earlier today and it slaps. high ...
🙂
Glad you liked it
astral talon
design wise its bad
however court is even less fun to me
Reminds me of that aoe bug fight in nyalotha
And that was among my favourite fights haha
Still, nothing even comes close to football boss
Absolute best
#1
And was the funniest to watch during rwf too xD
astral talon
Ye but the mechanic of football was fun too xd
cunning hound
how much is the arms nerf comin in anniverasry ?
boreal quartz
but idk i kinda like dance fights like that
i mean if you could see
itd maybe be ok
but randomly x3 swirlies on poo flor
cba
fresh spire
nova marsh
how much is the arms nerf comin in anniverasry ?
it's 50%
fresh spire
when you team couldnt play football
nova marsh
We're doomed
nova marsh
when you team couldnt play football
when you get forced into football as a meele
fresh spire
and you watched the ball slowwwwwwwly float till you wiped
hazy flower
do we think we're killing queen sub 300 pulls
Sub 200 is pretty insane ngl
I think were gonna kill court next week so ill only see queen in like week and a half
Probs
astral talon
And its going to get easier every two weeks
hollow summit
Any1 know a good addon or weakaura for announcing succesful spell reflects? Alot of the ones i've found are quite buggy
daring heron
design wise its bad
however court is even less fun to me
ovinax very bad boss but at least i could have fun and play the game
court style fights with this kinda limited movement and scripted dance i just dont like
livid cloak
man fishy build
i dropped executioners precision for 2/2 bb,had a 11 ara kara
banger build man
holy
solid boss dam too
astral talon
ovinax very bad boss but at least i could have fun and play the game
I am doing demolish
As promised
It fucking pumps xD
limpid hornet
man fishy build
full build ?
languid turtle
I'm a arms warrior user of weapons on the kr server It's amazing how strong your demolish is
livid cloak
it's this exhilirating blows into demolish funnel build
it's nutty if you play it right
no execute talents is weird to adjust to but
languid turtle
Can u tell me if u have your own demolish tip
livid cloak
whew it's just solid dam every pack
gaunt matrix
wouldnt bl be better
dim sleet
i dropped executioners precision for 2/2 bb,had a 11 ara kara
Post build? I wanna take a look
languid turtle
I'm the last arms warrior on the kr server. I've never seen a user who uses this on m+ other than me...
dim sleet
Import string I mean
astral talon
I'm the last arms warrior on the kr server. I've never seen a user who uses this...
Today I got kicked from the group because I was arms:(
languid turtle
Today I got kicked from the group because I was arms:(
wanton sierra
tacit crystal
worldly kernel
limpid hornet
it's this exhilirating blows into demolish funnel build
What about -1 Collateral damage +1 Battlelord ?
livid cloak
No ty
astral talon
Fucking hell
astral talon
What about -1 Collateral damage +1 Battlelord ?
You want collateral
For that sweet 3.5mil cleave
livid cloak
Today I got kicked from the group because I was arms:(
Me too lol
wanton sierra
we are few and we have bad reputation xD
livid cloak
Arms isn't doing 15s so they can't come to my 10 
Even if they have ++11 on it
Not getting invited is 1 thing, that's fine there's a million dps
But getting invote then kick for not being fury is wild
livid cloak
tacit crystal
shadow ibex
astral talon
<a:tierlist:1260831970351517787>
Shut up you wouldn't invite one either xD
merry nexus
anyone know what trinket is better from shadow-binding ritual knife and concotion: kiss of death?
wanton sierra
id invite you xD i know the good arms hehe
tacit crystal
i legit decline any warrior onsite
unless its someone i know
:3
not worth playing with a shit warrior
astral talon
I once saw Koffie apply to my key
subtle ravine
anyone know what trinket is better from shadow-binding ritual knife and concotio...
Concoction is 0.19% better at 619
0.35% at 626
dawn root
If you're playing EB do you just press cleave immediately if you get a proc?
teal fossil
I love linking Bloodmallet
languid turtle
icy mulch
it's this exhilirating blows into demolish funnel build
How much of a loss would it be for dropping SkS for Battlelord?
livid cloak
Id have to Sim, but probably 30 to 40k st id imagine
In aoe it's inconsequential because you hardly ever press overpower in this build, so you don't really get the rage
Battlelord doesn't seem to do much dps, it just makes the rotation easier
teal fossil
Battlelord makes rotations feel less bad
livid cloak
Especially already having exhilarating blows
teal fossil
Yea
livid cloak
I think 2/2 deft is more quality of life than battlelord
Just my opinion
Like playibg without bl and 2 deft, feels bad, but it's good enough for me with just 2 deft
teal fossil
Yea
livid cloak
Would rather have sks, mbg, or eb after playing with it
Cleave eb resets feel SO good
nova marsh
i legit decline any warrior onsite
And dubble warrior is kinda bad
dim sleet
it's this exhilirating blows into demolish funnel build
im about to try this. it had like 2 changes from what i had but the changes actually make a lot of sense
-execution precision + deft experience for more overpower procs to buff cleave
+ravager -bladestorm
+exhilariting blows -massacre
clever sentinel
can i macro any of those cds together
i feel like i have too many 'rotational' abilities and wanna try and clear up some space if i can like macro avatar into something
tacit crystal
And dubble warrior is kinda bad
even when im on aug
sick gazelle
are you using QERFC for anything?
I put all of your shift modifier skills on their own hotkey. makes it a lot more playable
tacit crystal
or x z v
latent moss
I wouldn't invite an arms myself either
i would
tacit crystal
g
gaunt matrix
what would execute phase look like with
latent moss
what would execute phase look like with
i wish this was colossus st build
gaunt matrix
I mean couldnt u just spec out of Battlelord and spec into ct & ep
clever sentinel
are you using QERFC for anything?
i keep the base movement keys, r is victory rush, c is nothing, f is taunt (im a tank main) so i might move the taunt
thanks for some ideas
gaunt matrix
for single
latent moss
missing out on a lot of aoe cause colossal might
sick gazelle
i keep the base movement keys, r is victory rush, c is nothing, f is taunt (im a...
taunt is pretty low priority on arms tbh
F is a high value keybind to give up for it
dim sleet
it's this exhilirating blows into demolish funnel build
++8 city of threads with this build
livid cloak
what would execute phase look like with
It would just replace slam and be filler with no op/ms
gaunt matrix
It would just replace slam and be filler with no op/ms
thx
errant jackal
So are these colossus builds better than Slayer in ST? I wouldn't think so
Or are we just debating slight gains in M+?
gaunt matrix
M+
errant jackal
copy
zinc rapids
After patch day are we still going to be behind fury?
devout pewter
Fury will always behind us. We're the best
languid turtle
silk spade
I LET A 15 STACK JUGG FALL BEFORE EXECUTE
i usually just get parried instead
silk spade
doxxed
tacit crystal
omg i leaked my character name
stiff loom
But getting invote then kick for not being fury is wild
had this problem in legion as feral lol
potent fractal
Is ravager better for mythic plus?
dim sleet
seems like it, it buffs your cleave for the duration ravager is going
haughty tiger
demolish very fun button to press
devout pewter
not when your tank just keeps moving lmao
vale cradle
I swear the tanks do it on purpose every time they see you press demolish
atomic mountain
Is transmitter and mad queens a good comb on arms? I mostly use transmitter 2 sec before pull int charge and afert normal rota mad queen. Valid or shit?
spice stag
depends on the fight and kill timings, for raid i'd say you generally just use mandate + sacbrood on every boss you play arms on except silken and just play fury on the aoe pad fights
atomic mountain
Why sacbrood? And i will never play fury^^
atomic mountain
But thats not what i asked for. I wanna know if both are good and not what could be better caus of lazyness
spice stag
ye you can use both just fine if you want
teal fossil
Is transmitter and mad queens a good comb on arms? I mostly use transmitter 2 se...
Valid
A minor optimization with mandate is to use it with max stacks of overwhelmed
So it’s actually good to use it after blowing cds
nova marsh
A minor optimization with mandate is to use it with max stacks of overwhelmed
Does it benefit from overwhelmed?
That...seems odd
teal fossil
Yeah archi said so
Unless you are telling me that it benefits from fury but not arms overwhelemed
lone fable
Still unsure about colossus vs slayer in m+
I think i like colossus more, having the big spike dmg for the bigger pulls.
How are your experiences in higher keys?
vague nova
in even 3t sims its using cleave over ms with sweeping strikes up, are arms sims not that diverse and only set up for meta builds in 1 and 5t?
boreal quartz
🌩️
boreal quartz
in even 3t sims its using cleave over ms with sweeping strikes up, are arms sims...
Read cleave and fervor
Unless ur colossus i dont think ms on 3 is right
teal fossil
^
boreal quartz
And even then its lower prio than clevae
vague nova
i didnt think the extra slam was that strong
boreal quartz
i didnt think the extra slam was that strong
It makes cleave also count for collateral damage
Which is insane
Add in colossus 25% cleave dam
All the ww nodes
It's not uncommon for CD cleave in CD to hit for 10 mil or more
Ms doesnt hit for 10 ever
vague nova
I play slayer
boreal quartz
Let alone more than 2 mobs...
vague nova
but still
vague nova
yeah
boreal quartz
Disgusting button man
vague nova
didnt think the talents compounded that hard
boreal quartz
(i still ms to kill the big mob im aware it's an overall loss but timer go brr)
teal fossil
i didnt think the extra slam was that strong
An slam is like 80% of a unbuffed ms
vague nova
that was my next question
is the ms atleast viable prio dam
with like a ret and uh dk
teal fossil
You can look at the tooltips to compare
boreal quartz
is the ms atleast viable prio dam
I think it's still worth to ms ye
In a comp like that you play blunt
vague nova
i play blunt yes
boreal quartz
And then with the residual sds n shit you might get EP into your main target
At which point ms feels okay
vague nova
im coming from fire, this season and df s4 atleast, so i like the prio damage
boreal quartz
Non flamestriking magus hoooly
vague nova
yeah i play pyro /and or living bomb
teal fossil
Ignite is the only good mastery in the game
vague nova
I love ignite mastery
vague nova
too bad its the worst tuning knob in the game as well
boreal quartz
You could argue for FDK
boreal quartz
too bad its the worst tuning knob in the game as well
I stopped wizard after the rework, just didnt hit the same
No pyroclasm Sadge
vague nova
I started in SL and pvp'ed 98% of the time to df, season 2 my acc got locked from them changing apps at the same time my phone broke, couldnt play until end of s3
so I have no prior basis for specs really, mostly just s3
rare kite
Ignite is the only good mastery in the game
WW mastery
manic stirrup
No pyroclasm Sadge
dogass talent
thick kelp
revert the prepatch panic reaction nerfs
atomic mountain
how much % of each stat do we want and where are the breakpoints?
flat willow
But sulfuras
steep osprey
then repeat come ds
MoP is probably something I’m much more excited for
steep osprey
Watched Preaches mop arms warrior guide
I like the fact slam is the main damage dealer
MS just a generator
vital summit
Lock had an actual passionate developer back in MoP
cunning hound
i have a couple of questions for those who have killed kyveza or progging her on mythic. I find myself hitting like a wet noodle and i am not sure how to approach the min maxxing part as we are near the kill after 150 wipes
would appreciate any tips or potential log review if someone is up for it
boreal quartz
Post a log
cunning hound
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1xrnqgBmV2RTc9LZ#type=damage-done&fight=49 this was our best pull yesterday at 15%
i also have vods if needed
strange perch
Post a log
Put a girl on
sacred zodiac
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/1xrnqgBmV2RTc9LZ#type=damage-done&fight=49 ...
you're 5 healing why are you using the tank trinket
abstract cedar
are we good next week ?
steep osprey
we are so bad
sacred zodiac
and fury will still be better for st ?
what do you mean
abstract cedar
fury will be better for st 23rd ?
astral talon
It's not better now, wont be better after nerfs
astral yarrow
its close enough to where whichever your preference is prolly better
icy mulch
Arms feels a little better in ST without cool downs compared to Fury. That's about the best it gets. Numbers look pretty damn close.
fresh spire
Raw sims fury is ahead on st
Imagine going from 1.5m start of patch to 1.442 from stray nerfs
thick kelp
Fycj I hate raw sims
astral yarrow
My fury sim was 15k behind arms when we recleared kyveza last week 
fresh spire
Meanwhile mage buffed 10%+
Yeh buffs next week hurt arms more
As rb/bt actually buffs ra
astral yarrow
yeah its bad
fresh spire
Arms gone from like 60k ahead to 20k behind
How fun
Surely ms buff next week after
thick kelp
Man I love Ion
astral yarrow
i think the worst part is how complicated both specs randomly were
moreso fury than arms, but man
fresh spire
Am builds very simple
astral yarrow
opportunist can die in a fire
fresh spire
Anything not am
😠
Maybe aome day thane St will be competitive with slayer and life will be goid
And colossus crushes slayer
astral yarrow
did brutal/followthrough on ansurek yesterday and saw legit no variance in wtf i did
fresh spire
It's same shit
astral yarrow
i think realisitcally CC is better since stuff you are brought for dies within BS, but ya know
steep osprey
All warrior talents suck
fresh spire
Fix arms brutal same time
steep osprey
Redesign brutal finish and cyclone
Make Cyclone BS deals 30% damage to primary target
astral yarrow
Fix arms brutal same time
icy mulch
opportunist can die in a fire
Agree
icy mulch
And colossus crushes slayer
I'd just like arms to be meta. It's been since Legion....
fresh spire
Arms needs more funnel styled talents that are just clean. Fob is great as it procs ss for colat
But make it ms instead
slow saddle
i mean legit just make MS hit hard again
slow saddle
that 20% ms nerf we never recovered
thick kelp
tranquil sundial
I'd just like arms to be meta. It's been since Legion....
Nyalotha, SoD
thick kelp
D tier
icy mulch
Nyalotha, SoD
Can't say Nyalotha. That was just corruptions doing the work.
tranquil sundial
well
vagrant aspen
Slands arms was too reliant on WF
vagrant aspen
And boring af
icy mulch
Fair, ToM was pretty bonkers.
slow saddle
Slands arms was too reliant on WF
i licked SL arms
it was nice slow and stable
Execute was a decent filler u had time to charge and shit without feeling like u lost to much dmg
fresh spire
When arms was bis in sod without execute
I liked with execute was a filler
And Ms just. Fucked.
slow saddle
i mean i was gonna so no
but fr
Ms should FUCK
the idea of those modifiers where good
but the % gained is so much they had to nerf baseline ms
which was the WRONG way of doing it
better nerf modifiers have good baseline ms for eb and battlelord
quasi torrent
The idea of the mods was bad
astral yarrow
I honestly dont get the reason for martial prowess to exist outside incentivizing rage management
quasi torrent
It was okay in BFA when OP didn't reset once every half global
fresh spire
Lower the rotation amps into eachother
Make ep 1 stack 75%
Perfect synergy for sd
Or even make it lower %
Having it only be a single stack if ms was better than execute would bring up battle Lord as resets in execute are wasted for most part same with eb
astral yarrow
I honestly think SL arms flowed well, it was just not that interesting
astral talon
Sims for m+ are rarely accurate
cunning hound
you're 5 healing why are you using the tank trinket
our heales let's say are not the best
sacred zodiac
idk tell them to press healing buttons or
you're playing 5 healers to trivialize the damage taken check you need all the damage you can get
cunning hound
other than the trinket did u spot anything else ?
sacred zodiac
i detest looking at logs for the current warrior iteration so i cannot provide much
i think your sks couldve been 1 gcd sooner in your opener thats all i could be bothered seeing
vast helm
Buff our HP ...
storm lark
Buff mortal strike and we are chilling
vital summit
Blizzard warrior dev taking notes: "Buff HP by chilling mortal strike... and nerf slayer"
wanton sierra
"hmm back in the days arms was an pvp spec, lets try to make all warrior become fury... nerf arms!" xD
boreal quartz
"hmm back in the days arms was an pvp spec, lets try to make all warrior become ...
Arms isnt even good in pvp
wanton sierra
we got sharpen blade and tons of mobility, but is not OP... its passable xD i hate that word
my boss dam is passable
flat willow
Its been too long since the last arms nerf
I cant wait for the anniversary patch for my weekly arms nerf
I'm addicted
edgy solstice
Just wait til we get 4pc
fresh spire
M+ sims will change as rsidbots doesn't have full soa support to make it better on ordering
vast helm
at the beginning they nerfed Unhinged , both Arms and Fury''s connecting with Hero talents are all broken.
fresh spire
Tbh they need to do something to unhinged
vast helm
GOOOOOOOD JOB
fresh spire
3 skill points because it's so powerful
Unhinged prevents us ever realistically playing bl/fatality as we just lack points
When jug is just overall better
Unhinged should be nerf down to 2 ms from 3. But restore the aoe aspect of it
So it's good for aoe shit for st
edgy solstice
Fatality would cook in m+ if it didn't require a execute to trigger it
edgy solstice
It's a shit talent to design for raid but wouldn't mind it as a bandaid "aoe execute" phase
fresh spire
Never stacks on one thing
Can only proc one stack per button so can't even aoe fatality
vast helm
save Arms plz.
icy mulch
Arms needs a lot of love.
flat willow
Arms needs to be taken to the back of the house
icy mulch
A total rework? What would you want overhauled, and more to the point what would you want in it's place?
quasi torrent
literally anything but the iteration we got rn
flat willow
Short answer : Bring legion arms back, if not that : Remove juggernaut because ramping executes suck, or at least not 15 STACKS???
Remove the self root from demolish, fist of fury sucked when it self rooted you I don't see why they are doing it again
Give demolish the ret paladin treatment, I hate having it as another keybind to add when I switch from slayer to colossus. Make it work like hammer of light and it replaces colossus smash with demolish for 12 seconds when you burst
would fix the button bloat, cd desynch
most of the problems of colossus, now ofc the base spec still feels awful but at least colossus would be great
and make critical thinking baseline, being rage starved the second you hit execute phase isn't good design
quasi torrent
quasi torrent
juggernaut may be the worst thing that has ever happened to warrior and the discourse surrounding it
thorn pelican
boreal quartz
juggernaut may be the worst thing that has ever happened to warrior and the disc...
Irreversable damage to class design with 1 goku edit
quasi torrent
juggernaut is probably biggest mandela effect in wow
somehow people think they experienced that shit video
when they never got past 20 stacks cause they are heroic players
flat willow
and if blizzard is feeling generous, either allow arms to not lose all its ST dps in aoe build like every other spec in the game
quasi torrent
like yeah i got 60 stacks once, great wow
if i had gotten any mech
i wouldve cratered
flat willow
or nerf all the other specs to be cucked in single target when in aoe build
quasi torrent
👍
quasi torrent
that too xd
flat willow
arms suffering for fury's sin
quasi torrent
arms just high baseline exe cause exe hit hard and EP
flat willow
a classic
quasi torrent
or nerf all the other specs to be cucked in single target when in aoe build
class design lead try to keep the talent trees coherent challenge
(difficulty level impossible)
storm lark
s3/s4 arms were fine
thick kelp
man
latent moss
juggernaut may be the worst thing that has ever happened to warrior and the disc...
bbbut muh E X E C U T E video!!!
quasi torrent
real
(not real)
also surely not exacerbate by argus having a ramping dmg buff going towards exe
no way
!
flat willow
This meme video will haunt warrior till the servers are closed
thick kelp
There is also the
nyalotha version
which has almost same views as the legion fury one
quasi torrent
i dont even know that one luckily
thick kelp
quasi torrent
but the nyalotha version was basically guaranteed
cause it worked on every boss with a >24s execute pahse
thick kelp
do u wanna se it anda
flat willow
I hate bfa woyer
thick kelp
he has execute binded on =
flat willow
thick kelp
surely.
quasi torrent
idk the only time that arms thing was fun
icy mulch
and if blizzard is feeling generous, either allow arms to not lose all its ST dp...
This is the biggest issue I see besides turning knobs on aura buffs. Our talents really suffer from having to specialize in one or the other yet being good at neither.
boreal quartz
Asmongold has mold in his head
latent moss
he is mold
quasi torrent
if your guild had enough dam to push nzoth to 35% before mythic phase -> you getting whole burst off -> do it again after mythic phase
cause getting 2 of the lucid bursts was kinda king
(yet fire mage still did 30% more dam than u on the fight, whoopsies!)
thick kelp
Warrior went to shit when Cautex dissappeared
thorn pelican
think i had a time in that one dungeon with the last boss that was in execute from the start
quasi torrent
think i had a time in that one dungeon with the last boss that was in execute fr...
eye of azshara
thorn pelican
other dps died and i just sat there executing forever
quasi torrent
im so happy they never did that again ,but instead we get bosses that dont have execute phases
thorn pelican
only time i ever actually used it
quasi torrent
so cool
icy mulch
Warrior use to be top in execute phase, is that even the case anymore? I know most classes have some form of execute style.
storm lark
Make all bosses like rashanan
quasi torrent
Make all bosses like rashanan
ok maybe just make bosses 100-0
quasi torrent
Warrior use to be top in execute phase, is that even the case anymore? I know mo...
they gutted a lot of the execute shit like soul reaper
thick kelp
we are still the best if the execute lasts long enough
since we still take near a minute to stack Jugg
once execute actually starts
latent moss
peak
quasi torrent
and then u only MS when the weakaura meows at u
love munching 7 EP stacks cause tac tdoesnt proc
absolute horseshit spec
void cosmos
berf
flat willow
better not have a phase where you can't hit the boss for 12 seconds
would be a shame to lose that minute of ramping
thick kelp
Worst one is
when u pushed him below 35
before last phas
and your jugg drops
he lands
and raid lusts
absolute
horror
latent moss
daily reminder that it took them 2 sudden death tiersets to realize that sd not having 2 stacks sucks
and that sd still doesnt count towards am and tom
boreal quartz
die am die
Echt
daring heron
blizz will probably realise soon that nobody is playing tom anymore so it'll get buffed
quasi torrent
fury AM moment
daring heron
add more to the abomination that is arms
flat willow
another -20% damage on mortal strike
thick kelp
and Dw falling off
quasi torrent
my owo tracker will be broken gg!
thick kelp
real
flat willow
quasi torrent
its not as bad as bfa mastery
boreal quartz
ANOTHER 20% NERF TO MORTAL STRIKE
daring heron
man arms is full of jank
halcyon valve
ANOTHER 20% NERF TO MORTAL STRIKE
arms isnt perfect but i still love it so much
they just gotta not fuck the spec
quasi torrent
bro its already dead
flat willow
latent moss
cant
flat willow
we must go to the bottom of the trash bin
flat willow
latent moss
shamans are getting a rework!
thorn pelican
i wish demolish had like 5m higher leash range and maybe a clearer indicator of what its aoe looked like
latent moss
i wish my spec had humam gameplay!
thick kelp
rogues too
latent moss
dogass gameplay on st
idk outlaw was perfect
in df s3
and then they just decided to fuck it up xd
halcyon valve
they gotta change some stuff in the spec tree
warrior class talents are in a pretty respectable state rn
but there are at least like 5 different talents in the arms tree that, as of tuning right now, see no use at all
quasi torrent
bloodsurge should always be the go to in aoe
quasi torrent
yeah love spending less rage
flat willow
just need 4 more years and they'll make it reimburse rage instead
halcyon valve
hear me out: what if warlords torment made the next 2 mortal strike / cleave casts cost 10 more rage, but do 40% more damage
flat willow
I believe in the dev team
quasi torrent
xd
boreal quartz
hear me out: what if warlords torment made the next 2 mortal strike / cleave cas...
Once every 90 sec
30 rage cleave
incredible
halcyon valve
warrior devs: 🛌
flat willow
84 years
icy mulch
My guy.... you love Legion arms and forgot Ghostcrawler?
flat willow
legion is like
a decade ago at that point
I'm an old man
👴
I barely remember focused rage
and battle cry
and deadly calm
and cs resets
icy mulch
flat willow
I see a light at the end of the tunnel
never forget heroic strike, savagely killed in warlord of draenor
icy mulch
Heroic strike was meh. I'm not sad to see it leave.
flat willow
love me heroic strike, me cleave, me 100% crit recklessness
hate paladins, rats and wizards
simple as
atomic mountain
Heroic strike was meh. I'm not sad to see it leave.
hero strike in vanilla carry.
flat willow
no no no, that's not the cool heroic strike
the cool heroic strike is cataclysm and mop
well vanilla to wrath hs isn't awful either
but it goes mop > cataclysm > the rest
astral talon
never forget heroic strike, savagely killed in warlord of draenor
I prefer FR
flat willow
yeah FR fits arms better, but hs fits fury better
icy mulch
Cleave should go baseline again, as should Colossal Smash. The only point to spend in it should be to switch it to Warbreaker or not.
atomic mountain
well warry at all was the best in vanilla. even now i get wet dreams with all worldbuffs getting 1shottet on 1st mob cause tank couldnt handle aggro. best time of my life
atomic mountain
Cleave should go baseline again, as should Colossal Smash. The only point to spe...
WW just shouldnt be shit and should be filler nr.1
fresh spire
Problem is focus rage value died when op became focus rage with damage
astral talon
Cleave should go baseline again, as should Colossal Smash. The only point to spe...
I'd rather cleave replace ms when talented into it
quasi torrent
well warry at all was the best in vanilla. even now i get wet dreams with all wo...
7
fresh spire
I would love if cleave went baseline and they phased ww out completely
astral talon
And then every enemy hit by cleave should increase dmg of whirlwind
And make it spew fire or apply bleed
atomic mountain
And make it spew fire or apply bleed
and stunn for 5 sec
icy mulch
I'd rather cleave replace ms when talented into it
That's not a bad solution, but it would have to slap harder untalented then. Which kinda sucks.
astral talon
Meh
astral talon
That's not a bad solution, but it would have to slap harder untalented then. Whi...
Why, more dmg to main target and we're good
atomic mountain
Why, more dmg to main target and we're good
yes we dont need to be aoe monsters. just st monsters 😄
i would wish we could go AOE OR ST. i hat it playing arms in 10+
icy mulch
I guess if we call cleave just hitting 5 mobs with MS, then sure. I just don't want Arms to go down the Fury road using whirlwind to start cleave damage.
astral talon
yes we dont need to be aoe monsters. just st monsters 😄
i would wish we coul...
Tbh cleave replacing ms, would be net neutral on ST
astral talon
I guess if we call cleave just hitting 5 mobs with MS, then sure. I just don't w...
Basically what we had in legion, cleave increased dmg of ww based on amount of targets hit
icy mulch
yes we dont need to be aoe monsters. just st monsters 😄
i would wish we coul...
We want good st without losing all our aoe. Just like every other class.
astral talon
That could be new collateral, so its not clunky like now
atomic mountain
I guess if we call cleave just hitting 5 mobs with MS, then sure. I just don't w...
its reverse fury tbh XD
astral talon
You can't have good st spec and be good in m+ tho
Look at bm
Or arms rn, you can choose one only
atomic mountain
Look at bm
i know but i only play arms and i want to play m+ too
vernal river
Except enha
icy mulch
You can't have good st spec and be good in m+ tho
Then look at Survival, Marksman. Look at Mage, DK, Rogue, etc.
astral talon
Then look at Survival, Marksman. Look at Mage, DK, Rogue, etc.
Survival drops st talents to do good aoe
And vice versa
atomic mountain
patricius you are cranking btw
its just normal raid. first 4 bosses on hc went also good but the raid is turned down with 2 bad dps so we cant go on progging
BUT THX 😄
astral talon
i know but i only play arms and i want to play m+ too
So do I, arms is 100% playable in keys
atomic mountain
So do I, arms is 100% playable in keys
i know but noone want me. they are like.... ewww C Tier spec
flat willow
I mean its playable but who would willingly subject themselves to current arms in mythic+
Either having 0 aoe or healing bosses
astral talon
I mean its playable but who would willingly subject themselves to current arms i...
Me
atomic mountain
I mean its playable but who would willingly subject themselves to current arms i...
me
astral talon
And i do around 1.5mil on average
flat willow
There's probably like 100 arms players doing m+
astral talon
Did 1.7mil too
halcyon valve
i know but noone want me. they are like.... ewww C Tier spec
i have done 100% of my raiding and m+ as arms this expansion
atomic mountain
And i do around 1.5mil on average
i do 1,4 XD
flat willow
On the entire server
atomic mountain
i have done 100% of my raiding and m+ as arms this expansion
yes me to but i dont get a single invite in 2 hours seaching
wanton sierra
on these past weeks ive put toguetter most of complains/suggestions and fix and here it is:
-buff flat mortal strike on 20% and execute on 10%
-new talents or rework talents on fatality, juggernout, EP, spiteful serenity and both warlords torment and blademaster torment, maybe tune and rework spear talents
-demolish 3rd hit not requiring an "target" to land
- ive heard some colateral dam complains, but i dont mind the way it is now
-burry tom
wanton sierra
burry tom and gio57
atomic mountain
Im #1 on my realm lmao
shit i have to work. only 11 .D XD
tacit crystal
burry tom and gio57
halcyon valve
domlish 3rd hit yes please
astral talon
shit i have to work. only 11 .D XD
I play on polish realm tho
halcyon valve
and make it the only hit that demolish does
atomic mountain
I play on polish realm tho
me on 1 of the biggest german^^
halcyon valve
im ranked 45 on silvermoon, giga
atomic mountain
what is tom?
wanton sierra
i dont like 3 hits, but now i quite enjoy... it stacks on colateral dam so ok
i didnt*
atomic mountain
I play on polish realm tho
do you play slayer or demolish?
astral talon
do you play slayer or demolish?
Demolish
wanton sierra
polish and demolish? nice xD
acoustic mulch
Demolieren!
wanton sierra
idk why but i kinda hate demolish
its good, on single that feels wack if not crited
astral talon
polish and demolish? nice xD
What can I say
Living on hard mode and playing on hard mode
wanton sierra
and as arms, you like beeing on the hard mode
atomic mountain
its good, on single that feels wack if not crited
well alwys my keys have lack of ST so i decidet to play mainly ST with cleave. in pack my dps is not that highe but the bosses die and i am way ahead of 2nd place dps
wanton sierra
colossus st dam is "passable" xD
icy mulch
I just think Arms should be that niche BIG st with decent cleave capacity together. Not one or the other. Like what we had in Cataclysm.
Fury right now, I'm only happy when it's a big pull and I have cool downs. Out side that, ppppfft.
atomic mountain
I just think Arms should be that niche BIG st with decent cleave capacity togeth...
i think it already is. alot of players i know say that they dont know how to Arms and play fury. i guess arms is just good if you are good
icy mulch
With Arms I barely get that anytime.
astral talon
and as arms, you like beeing on the hard mode
I even do demolish on mythic ovinax xD
icy mulch
Arms is easier to play right now because you don't sit on max rage to min max.
atomic mountain
btw best feeling is when Raidlead says: "stop putting PI on the enhancer. give it to the warry. he does better with this."
best moment yesterday
atomic mountain
Arms is easier to play right now because you don't sit on max rage to min max.
well then i only know idiots
wanton sierra
slayer st is good
livid cloak
Arms is easier to play right now because you don't sit on max rage to min max.
Fury is definitely easier than arms
You just do st rotation for aoe
Hit 4 buttons
atomic mountain
You just do st rotation for aoe <:keks:936231610850897992>
and every 3rd gcd you press cleave on arms
icy mulch
I guess, but Arms isn't much different in button count. Just more of the order of proc luck.
livid cloak
Arms just has a ton of prio changes based on mob count and mob health
And talent builds
atomic mountain
I guess, but Arms isn't much different in button count. Just more of the order o...
kind feels like you are a arms hater
zealous hemlock
I've been playing arms as my alt and that's exactly what I find hard about it. The prio is all over the place because of procs and mob count/health. Makes it hard to plan ahead. Feels like I have to watch my buttons a lot
Maybe I think too much and I should zug more idk
regal birch
icy mulch
kind feels like you are a arms hater
I love Arms, just not the last few expansions of it.
atomic mountain
Maybe I think too much and I should zug more idk
well its kinda of following your rota and weave procs inbetween. so it workes for me XD i dont use WA or something in this way cause i dont get any good ones
atomic mountain
I love Arms, just not the last few expansions of it.
well i hated arms till warry got titangrip. idk but fury dont feels right since then. stopped playing warry end bc and startet DF cause it made fun back there and now i know what it means to love arms
1 queick question. is there a world where we use WW? like mby if we dont have Sweeping Strikes up in BIG pulls? or is it realy NEVER WW?
atomic mountain
you have cleave
yes but cleave also has CD no?
zealous hemlock
it replaces ww
atomic mountain
well i can only cast cleave every 3rd gcd. and i asked caus i dont know if i fill the 2 gcds with ww or normal rota
or do i miss something in my talents that takes away the CD from cleave
tacit crystal
no it just replaces the ability
livid cloak
No you'd never hit ww as arms
halcyon valve
ww does piss low dmg
livid cloak
Unless you're pvping and trying to knock someone out of stealth
atomic mountain
okok. well i never used it anymore since months so i didnt even recogniced that i dont have WW anymore
halcyon valve
tbh i like it this way
atomic mountain
was just a thing in my head
atomic mountain
tbh i like it this way
ye its fine but i want some number explosions on my screen too without playing demolish XD
pulsar elk
hey do u guys know, is the only way to get the mythic color tier style boots belt and gloves by using a catalyst on a 623+ item?
kinda bummed i cant finish the set until i waste a bunch of catalysts lol
gaunt owl
thats one way to do it
pulsar elk
😢
gaunt owl
or if you get a mythic track in your vault
pulsar elk
ohhh are the items that catalysts turn into available in vault sometimes?
gaunt owl
if you killed the boss yes
pulsar elk
or would u still be using a catalyst u mean
cuz i thought only dk and pally offset gear drops from raid
dusty summit
Can also get the boe
pulsar elk
oo didnt realize there were any
thought just helms
sick ty tho thats a good suggestion, are there no mythic boe's tho? not finding anything past 616
nvm hero track
tysm
dusty summit
There are mythic boe’s if you don’t want to spend valorstones on em and are swimming in gold
pulsar elk
yeahh just not on my realm ig
pulsar elk
but i can just upgrade 616s to 623 to get the appearence
dusty summit
Ye
https://www.wowpay2win.com/?tier=nerub-ar-palace can also check other servers here for cheaper or w/e
dusty summit
Everything exists
pulsar elk
lmao yeahh shoulda known
strange perch
Is it even possible to have a single build that will perform well in Single and multi target settings?
pulsar elk
not against TOS ofc right? u just party invite and buy it from them?
merry stone
🧐
dusty summit
Or warbank transfer ig
pulsar elk
Is it even possible to have a single build that will perform well in Single and ...
https://murlok.io/character/eu/dalaran/elfedlanuit/pve heres an example of a slayer build that mimics raid build, with the only aoe point being put into cleave basicallly, but being used in very high m+ keys
livid cloak
Jugg build doesn't do good aoe
Its fine, but it's not great
And is ass to play if you can't chain jugg between packs
livid cloak
Define good success
Bosses don't live long enough for jugg stacks to actually get value in keys, and the trash dam is not good
In my experience
It was a big time build in s3 bc of the tier set
Maybe in 13s or higher you could get good jugg stacks and get good boss value
latent moss
bosses do live long enough in high enough keys
its just that arms
sucks
numbers are low compared to other classes
tranquil sundial
take out blord for mbg
livid cloak
If you take arterial bleed, you should take sks
livid cloak
If you take mbg, you should take one against many
tranquil sundial
take out 1pt deft for sks
latent moss
wdym
tranquil sundial
wdym
livid cloak
Would absolutely run mbg over blord
tranquil sundial
eleborate lol
livid cloak
But it's about what playstyle you prefer
But not running sks with arterial bleed is illegal
clear rain
But not running sks with arterial bleed is illegal
sks is just ASSSSSSSSS
such a bad spell
livid cloak
Its not a bad spell
clear rain
Its not a bad spell
i feel like it gives u room of error
livid cloak
Sks is a straight up 50k increase on st with arterial bleed
tranquil sundial
even without one against many
livid cloak
Even if you suck with it it's still very good
tranquil sundial
how do you suck with sks
strange perch
hello my name is pauck1510
strange perch
eb blord peak buidl
clear rain
and not take one against many
ye but like its a mix of aoe and single?
cant go all in
livid cloak
Just makes you worse at both
tranquil sundial
tbf arms is just kind of play what u want