arms

[thorn pelican]

and let it be aoe class

spec w/e

[arctic iris]

It's kind of wild that Arms gets 50% uptime on SS, which hits one extra enemy for 75% damage, while fury gets 100% uptime on improved whirlwind, which hits four extra enemies for 55% damage

Obviously there's way more to the kits of both, and Imp WW requires more maintenance, but arms AoE kit just feels so stingy

We don't even have a baseline way to apply our mastery in an AoE

[thorn pelican]

oh like we need cleave or smth

[astral zephyr]

SS should be soft capped at 8 targets

[arctic iris]

Cleave, warbreaker, or bladestorm

[astral zephyr]

Turn us into a cheese grater

[thorn pelican]

put unhinge ss back in, make it 100% copy damage

id be happy

[summer elbow]

So if i want mass aoe dmg i would go fury? How about st on m+

[balmy cradle]

how behind is slayer compared to colossus in mythic+

[blissful prawn]

Guys should bladestorm and sweeping strikes be used together? Does the MS's that are cast from bladestorm cleave with it?

[midnight mural]

No

[untold pewter]

They used to

Not anymore

[blissful prawn]

Thank you for the replies!

[livid cloak]

Depending on the build you play. When I hit the dummies in dorn slayer is roughly 50 to 100k ahead in st. And about 400 to 600k behind in aoe. This is just my experience with my gear. Ymmv

[nova marsh]

With slayer you technically do

Since bs is required

But ye. Honestly at this point cleave should be baseline. Don't several other specs have their main aoe spender in a "required pathing" slot

[livid cloak]

Cleave is easy enough to grab though

Early in the tree, only really requires 1 point

[remote ledge]

I'd rather them changing everything than just spot changing here and there

Might aswell start from scratch with better designs

[slow saddle]

Sweeping should work like blade flurry

Less targets more dmg

Toggle shit

[remote ledge]

Or they could get rid of it

[slow saddle]

Nah man never

Its been there since classic

[remote ledge]

And?

[slow saddle]

20 years of sweep

It makes us not like others...

It should just be outside gcd

[remote ledge]

It's terrible for class balancing

[slow saddle]

Who cares?

We want different dmg profiles

And types

[remote ledge]

Then play another game

[slow saddle]

Lol

U do that

Coz atm we got that

We got loads of classes with different funnels

[icy mulch]

So seeing our dps profile, exactly how does it differ from say Paladin or mage, or boomie? They just seem to have a catch all profile. Mage able to do both really without lacking. Unless you steal their adds.

[thick kelp]

We just kinda do damage

you know

to that guy and that guy and that guy and that guy and that guy

[wanton sierra]

SS should not consume gcd

[remote ledge]

They hate havoc type profil damage, but people still want them I guess

So they make it trash

[wanton sierra]

i woke today and i saw critcake thoughts about warrior changes for next anivversary patch... i was like "OMG IT CCANT BE TRUE"

after a few minutes, i realised that he was talking about the boring changes we got, warbreaker hittin far and dmg nerfed for 5 targets... slayer nerf

warbringer, sorry lol

[remote ledge]

Copium : they're waiting for a whole new revamp

Next patch don't worry 🙂

[wanton sierra]

we are all waiting i guess xD arms indeed need some love.. idk how they let classes be so distant from each other... at the start of the season, warrior recived some work, nerfs and tunnin... now we are forgotten (really the warbreaker changes is nothing... its dmg is nothing and its range is nothing, these changes would do nothing to us)

[remote ledge]

Idk but if they talk about changes and the community answers "no we don't want it" I'd also let the class rot

[wanton sierra]

what changes they talked about? im not aware

oh "if" they talk ok... we are on ifses

talents that need some love and work: spiteful serenity (0% of all warrior pick this) fatality, jugg, tom, spear and its nodles

[remote ledge]

That's fixing symptoms

Might aswell start again clean

[wanton sierra]

you say as entire class rework from scrath?

[livid cloak]

Just make ss off global and buff ms 20 percent

[wanton sierra]

talent tree rework, maybe switch talents position around, bake some into anothers

[livid cloak]

Easg

Easy

[wanton sierra]

colossus ms was 20% now its 15 xD

[remote ledge]

They don't want it, it seems clear by now

[livid cloak]

Also make critical thinking baseline or the talent that makes op generate rage in execute baseline

[remote ledge]

Or make new ones

[wanton sierra]

yes finishing blows baseline

and make new ones, id love to see fatality completaly removed

i know its decent dam, but i hate seein it as last spot from an talent tree

feels wack

[wanton sierra]

do you ggot some pocket ideas to new talents, brother monmonk

[remote ledge]

I'm open to changes but I'm no game developer

I want healthy changes, mostly new designs that they like so they balance it well

Talents in time with modern wow

[serene hollow]

Mortal strike has a chance to strike the target again for 30% damage during Colossus smash, synergize with Colossus. That seems so stupidly obvious to me

Or always does, rather

Give talents that really make mortal strike feel like an engine for colossus

[remote ledge]

Ie, they want target cap, instead of trying to fit spells that were made for no cap and struggling to balancing them, make new ones from scratch that fit their goal of game design

But boomer warrior players whine whenever they change one bit. We're stuck I guess

[livid cloak]

Nobody is whining, but it's weird to just decry "rework" with no ideas or suggestions

I like the way arms plays

Especially in pure st slayer, it feels fun

And aoe colossus , but aoe slayer and st colossus feel tough

[thorn pelican]

i like arms it just feels weird coming from cata and having ss on gcd

[thick hamlet]

SS on gcd is VERY important

for reasons

[remote ledge]

I find it more weird to suggest them spell designs I'm just a random ass player that'd be very out of place, to each his job. I think mine tho is accepting changes

[thick hamlet]

look tihnk about it, arms warriors always sweep the strikes, but it takes a while because 2handed weps are heavy in the lore

[thorn pelican]

sweep the strikes

[remote ledge]

Esp when they keep saying since legion that they don't want ss/havoc type damage and they will always undertune it

[thick kelp]

@boreal quartz login

[sacred zodiac]

@thick kelp they just nerfed arms again

6th arms nerf in 2 days

[thick kelp]

tf

what did I miss

[sacred zodiac]

20% aura nerf

[thick kelp]

Holyy

[thorn pelican]

its just goofy that arms is like kinda supposed to be good at 2 targets and execute

and then we're just like.. kinda okay

on the fights that reflect that

[remote ledge]

Same problem as havoc for destro, spec would be 10 times healthier without having this to balance out. But hey boomers stay booming

[boreal quartz]

Oh shit i was about to go shopping

Need milk and Jogurt

Ill be home in like 15 if that's ok sorry i forgor the apoointmenr

[thick kelp]

gogo

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp login in

[tacit crystal]

can i watch keys :3

[thick kelp]

I am

logged in

[boreal quartz]

itll be hpal raids

[tacit crystal]

can i watch

🙂

[graceful bridge]

currently as arms i sim at 1.28m st. does anyone sim much much higher? im 626 on arms atm big focus on haste and crit as well wearing mostly bis items

reason I ask is I feel like I should be doing way more in ST during raids like my rotation is fine and I plan my cds well but I cant hit any massive logs like I see other arms do

[boreal quartz]

once i get into anything i can stream ig

[boreal quartz]

i sim 1310 ish

[tacit crystal]

🙂

what disc

[tacit crystal]

can you link a log so we can try to find anything

[boreal quartz]

skyhold i suppose?

[tacit crystal]

ischleeb

https://tenor.com/view/a-mimir-goodnight-penguin-sleep-goodbye-chat-gif-24989131

[boreal quartz]

ye

cuz pala is boring

[proud remnant]

Def feels like they are nerfing slayer and indirectly nerfing arms like they are preparing for some large re works for 11.1 we will see though

[tacit crystal]

nice one

[proud remnant]

Rightttt? Please?

[tacit crystal]

ischleeb fell

[boreal quartz]

twas not my fault

[tacit crystal]

this is hc or normal

[thick kelp]

normal

horror

[tacit crystal]

which demon are you wahle

[boreal quartz]

the paladin

@tacit crystallog in normal raid

right now

[tacit crystal]

double horror

im na

nice one

give me an acc

ill blast

[boreal quartz]

bro idk wtf im doin on this dogshit spec

[tacit crystal]

i dont even know what other class i would play other than war evo

[boreal quartz]

monk

shaman

[tacit crystal]

its so cancer having to do 50 dungeons to catchup though

[graceful bridge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/stormrage/tacobòwl
heres my overall logs, its a spread out issue tbh. I'll be top or 2nd most damage on bosses usually but I see other arms in logs just totally gap anything im doing

[tacit crystal]

ill look after i eat

[graceful bridge]

would appreciate

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp

[thick kelp]

sus

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp

[thick kelp]

Ret Pala (Phil)

Perfection

[shadow ibex]

Just wait like 3-4 weeks after 11.0.5 and we will get 6% aura

Gotta wait for wow head to upload mythic parse aggregate before class can get attention

[boreal quartz]

hm

its the elvui anchors

[thick kelp]

Ye I fixed it

[tacit crystal]

the horror prot time

[hollow wave]

I really thought blizzard would revert the 11.0.5 changes

[dim sleet]

Ret. Roll your face on the keyboard... Easy 1.5 mil dps every pull

[eager sigil]

thank god arms is not like that

[dim sleet]

Arms was so much fun to play DF s3 and s4. I'm legit about to walk off the edge this season

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelpyou can move the wall and defensices i think

for thw WA

or drag in 2nd grp

[thick kelp]

Ye I dragged into 2nd

[boreal quartz]

I like my crus swings wa

[thick kelp]

it is very nice

[tacit crystal]

Looking at your kyveza logs, you are not playing for our 4p in execute correctly so you are losing a bunch of mortal strike damage by not getting our 4p to 2 stacks then pressing mortal strike. You also got turbo unlucky with sudden death procs but if you can get into execute with +10 jug stacks by greeding sudden death you will crank. You are also slow to stack jug itself

you will probably want to relook at the rotation prios

You also just were 13k strength on me and did less damage

that damage i got was just me doing execute better

[boreal quartz]

(it is stolen from wago)

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[boreal quartz]

At least I made it green

It was ugly pink

@tacit crystal did i forget to leave vc

On pc

[thick kelp]

you did

ome

[thick kelp]

good

[tacit crystal]

yeah

@boreal quartz i left then i rejoined when i saw that you didnt leave

[graceful bridge]

thanks for that analysis duuuude i dont run a jug weak aura so thats what it is ig. ill make one hopefully see improvement there and try to get the 2 stack of 4pc up more

[tacit crystal]

i would practice

hitting dummy

and forcing it into execute range

see how many jugg stacks you can enter with

very slow way of practicing it but its easy to replicate

[silk spade]

fatpala's holy power with prediction is goated

[tacit crystal]

you are my goat zhai

🙂

[silk spade]

[teal fossil]

Hekili never added hp predciction

Sadge

[forest dove]

Playing thane in my+, curious, do I cleave at 2 targets? Or is there a target count that I start/stop cleaving?

[smoky kayak]

you press thunder clap same way you always do

[reef glade]

arms doesn’t have thane too

[forest dove]

Oh fuck sorry, I’m trippin ☠️

I’m playing slayer

[smoky kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-jeff-goldblum-life-finds-a-way-gif-8405245

[forest dove]

Hahaha

But yeah, so cleave on two targets too?

[reef glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1260850967708958731/1284016360896331816/fatasswizardcastslightning.gif

don’t rly know since I haven’t played it much this xpac but “historically” I’d imagine MS still stronger on 2 targets, but you should sort of be able to roughly compare their tooltip dmg values, if ms is over double that of cleave’s (when it would hit 2 targets) it’s prolly better as well as more prio dmg

But like id say if you’re in a situation where you want to hit slam you just hit cleave instead as filler on low target counts like that

pmuch removing slam from bars not sure if it’s much better than cleave on st

[boreal quartz]

Yes but it didnt fit my thing

[forest dove]

Oh wild!!! Yeah I’ve been thinking that with no data to back it 🤣 especially when you get a proc for cleave (I’m too dense to know what the buff is, but cleave lights up 🥴) always wondering if it’s better to just hit cleave then on ST

[reef glade]

Just see if slams tooltip is like way higher than cleaves or if it’s sort of similar it’s probably not necessary

[forest dove]

I guess there are no real interactions with slam, so I can just look at pure numbers

Yeahhh

[reef glade]

The only problem maybe is if you like double overpower and ms didn’t get reset you’d rather not waste the 2 MP stacks on cleave and send on MS single target

[forest dove]

Ohhhh interesting! Yeah that’s a great point

What’s MP? I’ll have to track that

[reef glade]

But I mean in that situation u can also like thunderclap reapply rend or something

I think that’s the buff name martial prowess

[forest dove]

Yeahhhh

[reef glade]

It’s just when you hit overpower next mortal strike or cleave does 30% more dmg

[forest dove]

Oh badass! Okay

Yeah that makes sense… better spent on MS ST

Thank you for that!

[reef glade]

Don’t think necessary to track just sort of internalizing if you hit op u wanna hit ms before cleave, but yea I mean it might also help to just watch like arms streamers in m+

Idk if any of the “big streamers” are actually playing arms over fury, can’t imagine many are

[forest dove]

Yeahhh that’s the issue, not much arms content right now

[reef glade]

But if u check rio maybe you can separate by spec and see if any of the top ppl stream

[forest dove]

I’m bouncing between the two personally, just enjoy arms so much more

Ahh good call

[reef glade]

Like the die hard arms that I’m aware of I think is like gellyfisk but idk if he streams

[forest dove]

Cooool cool cool

Yeah, need critcake to play some arms

[reef glade]

when it’s not worse than fury prolly will

think colossus getting some buffs next week so decent chance most of em are gonna “try out” all the new hero talents and specs

unless col buffs already happened

[forest dove]

Oh nice! Didn’t realize it was getting buffed

I haven’t messed with colossus at all

[reef glade]

Eh nvm just read don’t think col got touched at all, like 2 minor buffs and only one of them is dps wise

but whateva

[forest dove]

Hahah

I mean, how far ahead is fury anyways??? Or is it excelling in ways more than just raw numbers?

[thick kelp]

Evil pink man down

Absolutely broken spec arms

please nerf

blizzard

[daring heron]

arms can clearly afford another stray nerf

[thick kelp]

Clearly

Cinematic demolish crit

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[boreal quartz]

I thought u were the other guy

[thick kelp]

sus

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RmJvDy7PQ9WYacxj @boreal quartz

[boreal quartz]

dude i blasted on sikran

[thick kelp]

deffo didnt forget to upload

[boreal quartz]

other tank mogged soo hard

btw i could play next 4 now

[thick kelp]

You will have to solo them :(

I finish weekly -> bed

[boreal quartz]

finnish weekly

balkan stare

:tf:

[thick kelp]

balkan stare

still water

[gaunt owl]

Arms gonna keep getting shot because you bodied people in key

[thick kelp]

blame fishy for finding this new cool awesome blaster build

[gaunt owl]

tahts the one with EB right ?

[fresh spire]

Soa stocks up

Dn stocks doen

Ms good

[thick kelp]

yeb

dopamine when you throw ravager into cleave cleave cleave

[fresh spire]

Then it dont proc

Then you do 3 ms instead

[boreal quartz]

🥭 🥭 🥭 🥭 🥭 🥭

actually @ critcake

🥭

those who knows

💀

[edgy solstice]

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/icardi-gif-17324852942883839104

holy what a gif

[edgy solstice]

megalul

[thick kelp]

holy brainrot

[tacit crystal]

whihc build?

[steep osprey]

What makes it good

[thick kelp]

your rotation is cleave ms sks op

you only send colossus at 10 stacks

even on oepenr

it fucks

[teal fossil]

rly

I though you want to put the initial colossus on cd

[thick kelp]

With this build following the priority of cleave ms

you get 10 stack demolish by your 4th global after warbreaker

because of silly interaction with sweeping strikes and ravager

[steep osprey]

Is there anyone playing this on video

[tacit crystal]

wahle how is the st

on the build

[steep osprey]

Probably ass cheeks

[thick kelp]

its

better than expected

with lucky EB procs

and sks + ep

[teal fossil]

Is this in the apl yet

[thick kelp]

No

This is fresh of fishys stove

[steep osprey]

Fishy is our savior

[thick kelp]

He is working overtime on borh specs

🐐

[teal fossil]

Im surprised that eb>bsttlelord

[tacit crystal]

okay but surely you drop mgb for battleord

[teal fossil]

Or do you need enough points to exit 2nd tier

[thick kelp]

its the cleave synergy

[tacit crystal]

[thick kelp]

inside mbg

[teal fossil]

Oh Fug I forgot Battlelord no longer work with cleave

[thick kelp]

goes silly cleave cleave cleave

[rare kite]

in st?

[thick kelp]

ms sks op op slam

[tacit crystal]

im going to slam you

🙂

[thick kelp]

execute phase is exe exe op ms

basic stuff

[rare kite]

okok, thought for a second cleave was prio in st with that. that would be so cursed

[thick kelp]

noo

[teal fossil]

Lmk once we cook up the apl

[summer elbow]

Guys is fury mass aoe better than us with demo? Or simimar

[fresh spire]

Apl is done for it

Optimised some dn stuff too

[teal fossil]

Oh nice

[steep osprey]

What’s dn

[teal fossil]

What’s the dn optimizations

[steep osprey]

[teal fossil]

Guess we just wait for archi to accept it and push it to simc GitHub

Then I import into hekili then I’m powerful

[steep osprey]

[fresh spire]

Change was mostly around execute usage as a prio and implementing the ravager bug

Since arma put it into sims it was sending demolish instantly which was a huge damage loss when youncan get 6+ stacks in the opener now

Best aoe sims close to 4.1m but the St side of colossus when taking aoe talents sucks ass

Specs so fucked

[teal fossil]

Oh the bug where you can sweep unhinged ms for demolish stacks

Cool

[fresh spire]

yeh its on live raidbots now (the bug)

[gaunt matrix]

Do you want to use demo during colossus window or should you focus on getting cleave out

[fresh spire]

if you play sao you always send it at 10 stacks even on pull

if you play dreadnaught you send it around 6 stacks

usually lines up towards end of your cs window

[teal fossil]

If they fix the bug is it joever

[fresh spire]

Soa sitll works well as OP has low prio

Cleave>Ms>Sks>Execute>op for aoe

the extra MS prio just gives you stacks so fast

[compact geyser]

for some reason sim is just using transmitter and not mandate in the rotation breakdown. is that a bug or something ? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qhfYwPrmFczzBQT1t9MYEx

[rare kite]

it is using mandate. look 30 sec in

[compact geyser]

im a dumbass i scrolled right past it looking for the icon instead of text

[compact geyser]

is that what its called ? cuz details just shows the "mad queens mandate" when i look at damage done.

[halcyon breach]

Yes it's Abyssal Gluttony

[compact geyser]

cool thanks

[jagged goblet]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/dalaran/tyranted how do I be less bad lol

[livid cloak]

This gives more aoe than buffing cleave with martial prowess?

Color me interested

Like prioritizing cleave op op cleave when possible

Oh damn I didn't even see it had eb

That looks fun

[edgy solstice]

MP is a joke

[fresh spire]

i did a stone core

had a ravager window where i basically just spammed cleave and ms from cd and resets

was fun asfuck

[astral zephyr]

You def had MB right?

[livid cloak]

Yeah that build looks really fun

[wide trail]

why blunt instruments over warbreaker in keys?

[edgy solstice]

BI is slayer only p much

[sage bison]

Does hek auto update prios?

[teal fossil]

yea

well he does it manually

[thick hamlet]

fellas i'm dying to air on m+, i need some help defensively

is it worth it to put a point in IP instead of throughput?

[wide trail]

but why'

[edgy solstice]

colo is more aoe focused, doesn't prio haste as much either

[broken arrow]

I macro'd defensive stance to both Spell Reflect and Die By The Sword, which helped me a lot. Also learning which big casts you can spell reflect does a lot of work. And of course healing potion & Impending Victory is extra good against big damage over time or as an oh shit button when you get chunked.

I'm farming 10s and I don't really die anymore unless I messed up and stood in fire

[sacred zodiac]

lmao that sounds horrid

dont macro dstance to your defensives you will live 99% of content if you just press sr and parry

[broken arrow]

Indeed, the 2-3 seconds of not having battle stance up are truly aweful /s

[shell wharf]

Besides a healer struggling there's nothing you need to D stance below 12s

[thick hamlet]

+11s have been okay if i use everything correctly, but +12 feels like my current threshold when it comes to mechanics

[sacred zodiac]

i mean kinda yeah

if you are going to dstance for 3 seconds every 24 seconds then you might aswell go play fury

[thick hamlet]

a lot of unavoidable damage just kills me no matter what i do, and obviously means i end up sitting in D stance for too long

[broken arrow]

Alright, I'm just talking from the perspective of a casual 10 farmer. I think your opinion is rather extreme tho.

[sacred zodiac]

i mean i also only touch 10s cause i dont care but you do not need dstance for a 10

if you NEED dstance in a 10 you are either standing in fire or your healer is physically afk

[broken arrow]

Well considering all my healers are pugs, there's a good chance they are at any time

[broken spear]

Hey guys, just trying to better understand that build that walhe posted a few hours ago. Is the reason we would play soa instead of dreadnought (for m+) because the increased ms prio in aoe means that we are pressing op less, and thus dreadnought aoe on op is less valuable?

[shadow ibex]

DN just isnt good

the aoe gain isnt anything impressive. its an aoe gain ofc but SoA helps a spec weak in ST do more

[livid cloak]

just spent some time on the dummies in dorn, this build is VERY fun to play

bless you 🙏

[fresh spire]

DOWN WITH DN UP WITH PRESSING MORTALSTRIKE LIKE WE SHOULD

though colossus is in hell of a state

lose way to much ST to get aoe

[livid cloak]

it did feel good going cleave, ms, sks, op priority

i am about to hit the st dummy with and it and see

[edgy solstice]

neither is the ST gain tho

2% on aoe is generally more valuable than 2% on ST

but giving op no prio in aoe will obv put SoA stocks up

[livid cloak]

was doing about 950k st no party, no buffs, no lust with this build. it's not terrible

im defniitely going to play this tonight

[gaunt matrix]

what build

[livid cloak]

walhe posted it early, krisp cooked it up

[gaunt matrix]

yeah I switched to it

[livid cloak]

you prio cleave and mortal strike to get really fast demolish resets

[gaunt matrix]

so dont use slam?

[livid cloak]

only if nothing else available, slam rarely sees use in aoe anyway

you usually have other buttons to push

[tacit crystal]

this is just wrong

[rare bane]

@sean The mastery at 1?

nvm bleed is at 1

[edgy solstice]

it's not lol

maybe in like slow pull dawnbreakers

[rare bane]

as arms i think we need every bit of aoe we can get imo our st is fine

[livid cloak]

if you play colossus it's the other way around

and as long as you can live bosses, aoe is fine, that' sjust usually not the case, where the bosses become the wall, just depends on your grp imo

[edgy solstice]

the walls are timer and survivability rn

not saying you should just completely disregard ST/prio dmg, i wouldn't be playing this spec if i did that. but 2% aoe > 2% ST in almost any key scenario

[tacit crystal]

there is just no way you actually believe

you have to be trolling

[edgy solstice]

?

[tacit crystal]

prio is infinitely more valuable than aoe

anyone and his mom can pad

[edgy solstice]

so why isnt slayer jugg infinitely better than every other build?

[proper coyote]

hmmmmm
(please don't actually import simc APLs directly)

[summer elbow]

I can go full crit mastery for m+ colossus? Or my st will be bad?

[teal fossil]

It’s a joke

Importing it creates all kinds of of jank

[teal fossil]

Your st bad either way stats don’t matter

Seriously though stats make up very little of your damage

[proper coyote]

Oh I know, I was hoping it was a joke but you never know

[shadow ibex]

yea thats also a big part of it

[summer elbow]

HALP

[gaunt matrix]

Probs mark?

Depends on what you have

[summer elbow]

is mark bis? i picked it

[broken arrow]

It's very good and lines up perfectly with Avatar

[warped ether]

yo jugg build actully slaps

in DB

[summer elbow]

how is slayer % dmg behind colossus on m+?

[nova marsh]

colossus is ahead

in aoe

[manic stirrup]

other way arounbd

[livid cloak]

i died twice or would've been better, nice build krisp

11 sv, but tank did small pulls unfort

[nova marsh]

Inaccurate name it's f tier dps

[fathom shoal]

is this the coll build linked earlier?

[livid cloak]

yea

[fathom shoal]

kk

[icy mulch]

Is it just me, or does dreadnought seem to not be affected by the talents that buff Overpower?

[rare kite]

it is affected, but dreadnaught got heavily nerfed going into the war within

[icy mulch]

40-100k damage to 5 things in a line, or 600k to one. I'm really trying to figure that one.

[forest dove]

Man, I’ve been so reluctant to try out coll

Maybe it’s time

Do you lose that much ST??

(Compared with slayer?)

[strange perch]

Blizz gave us talent trees only to shoehorn players into 1-2 meta builds ... what was the point?

this is not a bait

[gaunt matrix]

What’s the average dps for arms on bosses for M 9-11 I feel like I’m low doing 700-950k on most fights

Sometimes 1.2 mil bc cleave ect

[halcyon breach]

There'll basically always be a meta build whether it was the current or old mop-style talents

But right now at least you can play around with talents to fit whatever you really want, even if there'll be talents which are often just always going to be picked simply because of how good they are, or if the spec genuinely needs it to function

Speaking from personal experience where on Silken Court, there are multiple different builds that all work and do different things

Utility especially is in a better spot with current talents than the old ones, because of how limited your choice was for either getting double charge, or storm bolt, for example

[vague nova]

Slayer not taking Sks not troll or troll?

[astral yarrow]

obviously depends on context

[manic stirrup]

talking about this in the arms channel is crazy

probably the class with the most possible viable builds lol

[subtle ravine]

For simming Ulgrax/Blood/Brood/Ansurek, do we set the fight Style to Hectic Add Cleave or Cleave Add?

[astral yarrow]

single target patchwerk

[vague nova]

In M+ oops my bad.

[fluid rune]

This new build is very fun

Does it have a name??

[astral yarrow]

i would not be bringing SKS to keys unless ST is your jovb

[vague nova]

Amazing thank you

[nova marsh]

I mean it's kinda fine

But sks is trash in aoe

[vague nova]

Didn’t know if it was one of those, slayer arms is prio damage so don’t give up some of your prio damage, things.

[nova marsh]

Well yes

But sks dosen't really contribute that much to prio damage

[astral yarrow]

it kind of is, but its one of the points you realistically drop for cleave

[astral yarrow]

[nova marsh]

At least

it dosen't feel super impactful for prio anymore

Maybe I'm coping cuz I just gave up on it in favor of jugg

[astral yarrow]

love me some math feeling

[halcyon breach]

@astral yarrow pile on

[vagrant hull]

I'm hearing from some guildees that fury now beats arms in ST. It doesn't sim that way for me but I don't always trust sims and it could be my specific gear / trinkets. Is he right?

[nova marsh]

Honestly even in actual keys

I struggle to notice the diff

🤷

Again probally coping

[astral yarrow]

plon

[livid cloak]

Sks worth probably 30 to 50k ST dps

Yeah my sim shows it a 50k dps upgrade (with arterial bleed) over not having it in 1 target

[balmy kindle]

Gear stats and stuff is probably why, I do alot less damage as fury in keys compared to Colo arms

When I dont have CDs I am under the tank

[teal fossil]

Your guildies aren’t right

Fury st is not in a good spot rn

[edgy solstice]

it's over brothers

i succumbed to the frost dk

[steep osprey]

that's pretty close though

Calls for celebration

[edgy solstice]

calls for a ms revert

[steep osprey]

so true

[gaunt owl]

AMEN BROTHER

long have we suffered

i cant even

being mid tier but you get nerfed anyway

[wary dune]

Arms too strong, nerf it

[edgy solstice]

you're right

nerf the tier set

[steep osprey]

Anyone playing with the new EB build?

[lapis geode]

Is arms better than fury now?

[edgy solstice]

yeah

[steep osprey]

I wouldn't say so

[edgy solstice]

@ eb

[steep osprey]

not in M+

[tender glen]

So, sword, axe, polearm, or hammer? which is technically best to craft>

[edgy solstice]

fury is better still

[steep osprey]

Doesn't matter

[edgy solstice]

whichever mog you like

[steep osprey]

craft the one least expensive or mog

[edgy solstice]

least expensive for me was polearm

but check

[tender glen]

gotcha, good to know thanks

[edgy solstice]

but ya eb is ok

it's really just praying for cleave resets during mbg window

which doesn't often happen in the 4 keys i've done with it

[steep osprey]

prayge

[muted acorn]

may i see some of your stat distribution guys? im from fury and trying to get 40% crit so i can catch up with arms

[edgy solstice]

25 29 18 7 rn

[muted acorn]

25 crit
29 haste
18 mastery
7 vers?

[edgy solstice]

ya

crit would be higher ideally but was gearing for slayer at first

[muted acorn]

can 33% crit do m10 keys?

[edgy solstice]

ofc

stats dont even matter much at 12

[steep osprey]

anyone else getting fps drops when picking up affix orbs?

[gaunt owl]

this game is a huge fps drops anytime something happens

optimized for NASA lvl computer

[muted acorn]

last question, when do you guys use skullsplitter?

[thick kelp]

depends on your talents

[final jungle]

I do it after deep wounds n rend on target use sweeping strikes to get more targets bleeding out faster

But idk I could be wrong 😂

[steep osprey]

so I have all keys at 9 timed except for 2 10

and im 2460

how much is one 10+ timed up from 9

i wanna get 2500

[edgy solstice]

30 points ish

[steep osprey]

so not enough

need to do 2 10s

healer randomly left in this 10 NW i wwas doing

man fuck pugs

[wintry talon]

Roughly how much difference do secondaries make. Say coming from full bis hero fury war to arms vs full bis arms war.

[steep osprey]

not much

damn fishy's build is really nifce

was testing on dummy

gonna test st in M+ build

lmao giga bad

MS buff pls

30% at least

[edgy solstice]

good thing they nerfed it by 30

[steep osprey]

lmao

20% it was

but it def needs to be buffed by 30%

if not more

[steep osprey]

how's your boss damage with this build?

surely it can't be this bad

[edgy solstice]

it's p bad

[steep osprey]

I like the spec in Aoe but St needs god

[rocky jackal]

Where can I find the juggernaut build?

[steep osprey]

On WoWhead

[rocky jackal]

Ok, ty is

Ty

[balmy kindle]

despair, colo arms at 618 sims at 815k ish when my 604 ww monk is at 894k

Colo is better on dungeon slice, but srs the boss dmg difference argh

[pale lodge]

maybe a dum question but, raid singel target, ST specc, do i spam execute below 35%? and hows arms compare to fury in +8 keys?

[untold pewter]

The rotation is well explained in archis' guide on wowhead, I recommend reading it there

[pale lodge]

ty! i will look in to it

[balmy kindle]

colo still good in keys on aoe but boss dmg is pretty susepct

[pale lodge]

ok ty 🙂

[steep osprey]

Yeah it's so bad

MS needs big buffs

[worn frost]

Are we running skullsplitter in slayer pvp build?

[gaunt owl]

#pvp ask the boys in there

[summer elbow]

How bad i am if i die by mechs cause demo dont let me move.?

[fresh spire]

all about learning fights and timings, dont press if you know you gotta move

either that be ready to leap

[summer elbow]

Also is colo that good on aoe? I miss playing slayer which is easier

[balmy kindle]

One of the biggest problem is that execute is terrible on colo as well, you just run out of rage.

Our boss dmg is heavily reliant on having EP and lethal blows stacked

[steep osprey]

Yeah, we still need a better rage economy for Colossus

Like maybe a talent in the tree that reduces execute rage cost or something

[balmy kindle]

Also ms can definitely use base number buffs as well, right now it legit tickles on non crits

My fucking ww does more dmg on tiger palm

[fresh spire]

need to find the override to see just how much MS needs to be buffed baseline to catch with slayer

[frigid cipher]

All the strays are in preparation for the the MS buff

[fresh spire]

real

ive been wondering this

if they nerf the class enough maybe they will eventually buff it

But my fears are we will get aura instead of buffed where we need it

[balmy kindle]

I kept my hopes up but Jesus it's pretty bad

No changes, confirmed nerfs

No compensation for arms

[frigid cipher]

And DK buffed

[steep osprey]

Easy

Shaman rework and buff

[frigid cipher]

What a good time to be red

[steep osprey]

I’m maining shaman now

Waiting for warrior rework

And maybe I’ll play

[balmy kindle]

Alr gearing my ww up, same dmg profile as warrior but better

Maybe they will make Colo raid viable one day

[steep osprey]

Ele shaman looks very strong

[cloud gyro]

battlelord is better, ive been playing this since expac launch

[steep osprey]

New Ascendance forms and new Lava Burst animation

Found I enjoy shaman more than dk

[steep osprey]

Well, it’s going to happen eventually

Don’t bother hoping for when

Just play and let shit take its course

We were coping they were surely going to fix arms rage gen during execute and they did not

[flat willow]

Any day now

[balmy kindle]

Like they gut our ST spec while giving us nothing back, pretty disgusting

At least make demolish like 2x. Stronger or smth

[steep osprey]

Warrior is in a pretty sad state

[flat willow]

Wait blizzard has a message for arms woyers

[steep osprey]

Delete execute

[flat willow]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[balmy kindle]

Like right now ww I am doing conduit and jesus the damage

Makes demolish look like a tickle move

This is on top of ww being a good cleave spec

[steep osprey]

Yeah but you’re comparing a 2m cd to one that can be reduced a lot

That’s a shitty comparison lol

[flat willow]

Yeah compare it to reaper's mark instead

Casually doing 9/10M every dungeon

[balmy kindle]

Thing is ww doesn't need to sacrifice much to do our dmg profile

[steep osprey]

9m is rare

[flat willow]

Man dk is awesome

[steep osprey]

Once in a while

It’s usually less

[flat willow]

(dont nerf it blizzard)

[balmy kindle]

Arms we alr have to make choices and yet our numbers suck

[flat willow]

Arms is very specific for that

I dont think any other class has to completely gut their single target to do aoe

[steep osprey]

We need a rework

If everyone stops playing warrior

Surely they’ll do something about it

[flat willow]

Well everyone stopped playing arms

Didnt stop them from nerfing arms like 4 times

[cloud gyro]

mark my words

[steep osprey]

I will mark them in the bathroom stall

[flat willow]

This build heals single target bosses

[cloud gyro]

any colossus build does that

[flat willow]

Hahaha

[balmy kindle]

Without SKS you will really heal bosses

Like outside of ms and demolish Colo arms is a bleed spec

[cloud gyro]

theres kinda nothing u can drop for sks tho

[fresh spire]

You dropped the wrong node if you wanted to pick up the cleave reduction, thunderous is super strong

[steep osprey]

are WoW devs stupid

[frigid cipher]

Yea

[tranquil sundial]

drop bl

[steep osprey]

Understandable

[balmy kindle]

Battlelord seems good but it's kind of a extra mortal tickle

[remote ledge]

When I say this here people insult me

[cloud gyro]

as they should

[tranquil sundial]

we need buffs

[steep osprey]

Buffs are temporary

[tranquil sundial]

idk about a rework

[fresh spire]

spec has way to many damage amps around one button

[tranquil sundial]

arms more fun rn than it was entire DF & SL imo. Except s1 SL cos funny

[cloud gyro]

^

[balmy kindle]

Some of us are coping

[balmy kindle]

Was a fairy guy

[remote ledge]

I'd rather have them do everything from scratch again, so the class design actually fit their standard and wr can have equal treatment

But boomers here would unabomb blizzard if they get rid of ss

[cloud gyro]

imo battlelord is better but i dont think the difference is big

[frigid cipher]

Entire warrior community collectively sandbagging as venthyr

Crazy time

[tranquil sundial]

what they did to cleave is really nice

[cloud gyro]

i think i tried out arms maybe 5-6 times over past 3 years

everytime it felt shit to play

this time it felt nice

[fresh spire]

if you removed the fact that slayer is being held up by how powerful unhinged im sure you would have a different opinion about using Bs in st when its bad, forced playstyle around bladestorm would have been shit if unhinged never got changed.

Colossus currently loses almost 300k dps to pick up aoe killing off a huge amount of its single target
going from almost 1.415M in pure bis to barely over 1.1m in aoe build is a joke when compared to every spec of fury which is around the 1.3m area for st while having better or close numbers, AM in fury is about to solidify just how bad arms really is

[balmy kindle]

I use battlelord myself because it smoothes out the rotation, the issue is unbuffed non crit ms really just tickles

[cloud gyro]

for sure, but it resets demolish

and it helps rage

[balmy kindle]

Yeap that's why I run it on colo, but still my point stands on the ticklish part

Also demo for all the big numbers it's not that good on small packs

[cloud gyro]

yes

[tranquil sundial]

i mean yea

we need god

still arms was miserable playstyle wise in DF

Pressing IP for a bigger ToM was literally dogshit gameplay

[cloud gyro]

unhinged nerf makes sense, but then atleast make it 5 stacks of 2%

when ur touching it anyways

overwhelmed*

mb

[strange perch]

Has anyone tried to build around "Fatality" perk?

[boreal quartz]

its not good since ms is so bad

[remote ledge]

Many abilities are out of date with blizzard views of the game, and they purposely undertune it + it's difficult to add novelty while staying in their guidelines. Things need to go

[boreal quartz]

and since MS is bad you dont use blord or EB

so fatalily suffers

no TOM since TOM stinks is also bad for fatality

[fresh spire]

unhinged also too good you dont have the talent points anyway

:caught:

[cloud gyro]

unhinged is kinda the only capstone talent that feels like a capstone

[boreal quartz]

EP kinda but

without EP MS wouldnt exist in exe

[balmy kindle]

S2 flashbacks

[cloud gyro]

EP should be baseline design wise

[balmy kindle]

replace deep wounds, put EP as mastery. hire me blizz

[boreal quartz]

that sounds ass

[strange perch]

🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

[remote ledge]

Let them cook, but you gotta let them get rid of 50% of 2005 spells

[strange perch]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[strange perch]

I am ok with Arms being dot spec, but ...

[fresh spire]

Hi pauck

[strange perch]

hi krspi

how are you my favourite guy

[balmy kindle]

i am partial but really somethings need to change

[fresh spire]

Tired

[strange perch]

Why not utilise "active" skill mechanics from evokers? E.g. press and hold buttons for various effects?

[strange perch]

i hope you rest well soon my sweet baby angel <3

[fresh spire]

[balmy kindle]

its a good idea too imo, many of the guys here have brought it up

[strange perch]

rest in a sense of sleeping not resting in peace*

sorry it might have sounded wrong.

[strange perch]

... that would require complete class and spec overhaul. this is too much to ask from an indie studio.

[fresh spire]

Warrior is at the point it needs a major change up when compared to the care and attention other classes get its mildly infuriating.

[remote ledge]

They're doing it for ret every six months, they surely can do it once for woyers

[fresh spire]

You guys are aware brutal finish in arms hasn't worked for almost 3 months

[remote ledge]

My CEO

[fresh spire]

Functionally it's bugged

[balmy kindle]

Yes

[tranquil sundial]

what is brutal finish

[fresh spire]

If your bs ends with a mortal strike tick it consumes the buff instantly with 0 damage amp

[remote ledge]

I don't care about numbers I just want class design from 2025

[fresh spire]

The talent that would replace cyclone on St if it worked

Were in like 2 months and 20+ days since it was first reported yet 0 fix

Yet they nerf the choice node

🎦

[strange perch]

Arms - "honorary DoT spec" said Ion.

[boreal quartz]

🎦

[remote ledge]

I like arms for the dot/debuff aspect, I hope they keep it as main mechanism in some way

But let's get rid of cleave sweeping strike at least

[balmy kindle]

too much dots is bad, arms shd have more BONK

[boreal quartz]

sweeping strikes is like one of the coolest things arm has rn

keep that in

i want old sks, no AM, no juggernaut (maaaaaaaybe AJ)

i want MP death NOW

[remote ledge]

Well it doesn't have too much rn, I'd rather say it hits like shit and has no interaction whatsoever, it's just there

[remote ledge]

Boomer

This is why they can't balance arms, they keep saying it for years

[boreal quartz]

sweep changes ur prio, gives you your 2t identity

[remote ledge]

Same for destro and havoc

They hate 2T identity

[boreal quartz]

forsure

[remote ledge]

They killed it in legion and they let it barely alive since then

[fresh spire]

Give us fury bladestorm while your at it

I love being innmy channel for 2x longer for less damage

[balmy kindle]

isnt fury bladestorm historically very ticklish

[boreal quartz]

its fast

i want fast

[remote ledge]

Look at outlaw rogue evolution since its launch in legion. Then look at what happened to arms since legion.

Yet people want no changes I'm bamboozled

[balmy kindle]

yea playing fury i do realize bladstorm is like half the duration

[summer elbow]

So its better to play fury? Dont we have better st?

M+

[balmy kindle]

just try both and see what you like, as my gear is arms favored my dmg on fury is rough on ST

[summer elbow]

I honestly. Love arms execute and big numbers

Thats it

[strange perch]

Opportunist or Fierce Followthrough

[summer elbow]

I dont like seeing execute going for 500 600k per hit when as arms is like 1 2m

[balmy kindle]

opp is the only choice, basically makes ur OP slap really hard on crits

[astral talon]

ok sooooo

I need all 12s timed

to be #1 arms on eu

hmmmmmm

[broken arrow]

Sounds doable

[summer elbow]

Guys slayer still good for m+ or i really need to start used to colossus?

[balmy kindle]

imo at the keys i am doing (8-9), the ST pay off is not good enough to run slayer over colo

just be the thrash killer and let the other guys handle bosses (ironic i know)

[astral talon]

colo does good dps on bosses tho O_O

[livid cloak]

Lmk the secret. I'm ++11s right now but haven't timed a 12 yet

I'm having really good experiences pugging 11s though, which is surprising

[balmy kindle]

i use your build, its not that bad but urgh the sims

[remote ledge]

Guys is there a (crooked) Colo ST fully optimized build?

[livid cloak]

Wowhead

[remote ledge]

It is the latest one? Thanks

Since we got some madmen like fishy cooking fresh builds often

[fresh spire]

Wowhead one is basically the best only adjustment to raw St is better sks usage in execute when low rage to generate rage compared to current sims.

[remote ledge]

I wanna try this one for lower keys, with 45s roar and full prio ST and counting on demo roar and bleed for aoe

Maybe taking cleave just for deep wounds on aoe opener

[astral talon]

ayyy

+2 dawnbreaker 11 XD

[astral talon]

🙂

who cares about sims

timing the key is what matters

[remote ledge]

Can you link the build again please?

[astral talon]

i dont play exe talents

they'd probably do more dps

but i enjoy this more xD

[livid cloak]

Arms really do be having 8 diff m plus builds doing 1.5m overall

[thick kelp]

Basically

only spec in the game who can do this

All our talents are so meaningless we can mostly pick whatever

and do our medicore dps

[livid cloak]

Lol

[astral talon]

i mean

[thick kelp]

Not even jokin

[livid cloak]

I know

[astral talon]

tbh two things that'd make arms mad good in m+

[livid cloak]

You're not wrong

[astral talon]

instant 10 stacks of collosal might after using CS

[thick kelp]

The difference between talent nodes in different situations are all within 1-2%

[astral talon]

and this being 10 stacks at the use of sweeping

and then every global that sweeps 2nd target reduces cd of sweeping strikes

[thick kelp]

You basically get 10 stacks on pull with ravager

You wb rava cleave ms

and you are at 10

ofc sweep before wb

[astral talon]

ye

but if it was 10 from CS

you could have easier time on ST

[thick kelp]

well yeah

would guarantee that you get your demolish

but we cant have nice things

[astral talon]

and collateral rework woul make it so its that dogshit to use

[thick kelp]

Stonks

[astral talon]

cuz all your cds are gone

and done

and then its like

YAY i can do cleave without skarmorak buff, without CS, maybe with avatar

bruh

[remote ledge]

I liked this in aoe but once you get in 100% ST it you just send it ASAP no matter the stacks right?

[thick kelp]

yeah in st

but it should almost always be 10 stacks

unless on pull

[novel belfry]

hi guys , kinda getting back into game, is it good to craft a 619 weapon with ascension?

[remote ledge]

I forgot warbRINGER applies dw in aoe right? Guys I will cook. It'll be even stinkier than the Chinese boosted build

[remote ledge]

If you have no weapon and will have crests soon to upgrade it to 636 yes 👍🏻

[balmy kindle]

i like your build tho, it gives more dmg in spite of what the sims says, but boss damage is kinda low

[remote ledge]

Does anyone know if bloodsurge scales in aoe?

[boreal quartz]

ye its more rage

but rage in aoe is useless

[remote ledge]

I have an idea

But it's prolly 2 patchs too soon

[zealous rampart]

idk

i wish people DID 1.5m in my keys

as a tank i always have one dps competing with me, people hit 1m rarely

[astral talon]

11 SV timed lets goooooooooooooooooo

and on bosses i do like 800-900k

usually

last boss in SV

[remote ledge]

I'd love to try a full funnel colo build, with EB and battlelord to spam MS while having lots of rage with aoe bleeds

[boreal quartz]

try it then

blord alone solves rage in aoe

[remote ledge]

That would be a no cleave build tho

[strange perch]

Is it possible to macro together rend and skull splitter? I tried different combinations but no luck. Just to be clear I don’t speak about simultaneous press of rend and skull.

[broken arrow]

only as a cast sequence, I think

[strange perch]

Cast sequence works when i pair charge + rend or rend + sweep but fails when i pair rend + skull.

[broken arrow]

I just tried /castsequence reset=5 Rend, Skullsplitter and it worked

worked without "reset=5" too

[strange perch]

Thanks - I will try it again.
Maybe it was one of those random LUA errors.

[balmy kindle]

guys wheres the one button macro for d stance

[thick kelp]

#showtooltip Defensive Stance
/cast [stance:2]Defensive Stance;[stance:1]Berserker Stance

[wanton sierra]

sv11

[balmy kindle]

you are a god

[wanton sierra]

@astral talon nice dam bro, just did an sv11 too and i did poorly close to you xD

[steep osprey]

EB?

[astral talon]

i had mad clean run tho

[wanton sierra]

this build

[wanton sierra]

ive died a couple times, my boss dam was around 700 800k and the 2 bosses i did 1.3m nice cleave there

[wanton sierra]

artji, may you share your build ?

[tacit crystal]

@wanton sierra

[wanton sierra]

jesus no execute talents, nice

[astral talon]

🙂

i dont like exe talents with this

i was giga rage starved

and battlelord = more demolishes

[wanton sierra]

my overall execute dam was 4.4% its not like a big portion

[steep osprey]

Demolish numba one?

[wanton sierra]

damn you did like 100M more dam on demolish than me

[livid cloak]

Just moving dam from execute into demolish

I wonder how the Krisp build would feel moving ep into battle lord

Doesn't take massacre

Idk, I like ep

[wanton sierra]

idk, im thinkin execute talents dont worth... we need massacre and EP, and those yes help on ST, but our main ST button is MS.... and if execute represented more on overall it might be worth, but 4% is nothing

[strange perch]

yap - it works.

[wanton sierra]

battlelord has more impact on gameplay than massacre and EP

[livid cloak]

More positive impact

Massacre just means you're rage starved longer

[wanton sierra]

EP shoulda give like 100% each stack of MS dam

[astral talon]

yes

demolish is always my #1 in keys

or 2nd

[livid cloak]

Usually cleave then demo

[remote ledge]

theres gotta be a way to play almost no exec full mortal strike colo build, should feel better for M+ no matter what

[wanton sierra]

martial prowess is like 30% each stack and its located on the very beginin of the tree, and EB is our last talent position and it gives 5% more xD

[astral talon]

literally my build lol

[remote ledge]

yes but im trying ot find ways to hit in ST too

[astral talon]

well, gellyfisk's

with some small changes

[astral talon]

i do 800-900k on ST bosses

sometimes more

[balmy cradle]

what's your ilvl?

[astral talon]

629

[wanton sierra]

i did close to that, buy i was playin massacre EB 624 ilvl

[astral talon]

Thing about demolish is that you can do big burst

It really helps on skarmorak when you break shield before 1st tick of dmg

With 4-5 stacks you do one huge hit and shield is gone in like 3s

[livid cloak]

Skarmorak, ingra maloch, stitchflesh

[astral talon]

Iirc 1st tick is after 4s

[wanton sierra]

even that last boss of mists too

[astral talon]

+10 one tapped him haha

I did 2.4mil, dk did 2.5mil

[wanton sierra]

i have to say, playin as colossus is super fun

[livid cloak]

Anything with adds, 1st boss Ara Kara, 2nd boss dawnbreaker

Erudax

[wanton sierra]

i wish ihad more time to push and be better geared

[astral talon]

Ye those adds I nuke by myself

Everyone else does dmg to boss

I still hate arakara last boss

Dogshit design

[livid cloak]

I love it on warrior

Almost full uptime

And even when you leap out you just charge back immediately for rage

Easy

2nd boss in Ara Kara this week with ball affix is aids

[neon niche]

what is the best site to sim m+ again

[tacit crystal]

raidbots

[balmy kindle]

works on NW too

[balmy cradle]

does anyone play slayer in m+ or is it ded

[jagged goblet]

This build is so fun lmao. What is your prio during execute phase? Proccing OP into MS's?

[remote ledge]

What do you sim for aoe damage in m+ ? dungeon slice or 5-8T in 2-3min ?

[balmy kindle]

d slice

[astral talon]

Yes

just so you all know

I have ZERO idea if i play the spec properly

or optimally

I am doing 100% feelcraft when it comes to rotation

[wanton sierra]

yes me too, ill try this no execute build later

[rancid willow]

Is it advised to make cast sequence macros for talents we often use together? like Thunderclap/Rend + Thunderous Roar?

[astral talon]

wack

[wanton sierra]

no

[astral talon]

cast sequence is rogue level shit

[gaunt owl]

its cursed

should be illegal too

[rancid willow]

ok cool

[wanton sierra]

hey that asian top 1 score is playin as slayer and he picks exi blows, you think he is doing giga dam?

[remote ledge]

if thats the same guy were talking about his dungeon logs are public. He is doing sub aug damage, he gets carried

[astral talon]

fuck knows 😄

[rancid willow]

He's the CEO of the company the tank works for

[astral talon]

he did 1.3mil in stonevault

he's playing with aug

but aug is somewhat fucky with logs i dunno why

[remote ledge]

it's not

logs don't add aug damage

it adds them to the aug dmg

like PI for SP

[wanton sierra]

hey i did more dam xD

[gaunt owl]

yeah it should work properly in the logs now for Aug