#arms
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if your schedule is consistent, it would be impressive if no guild had your schedule
if your schedule is inconsistent wcyd
i just have my availability at work to where i can meet raid times
but everything else is just a maybe
i might work i might not
That assumes your job respects it
asks for satudays off. Evrey October during busy as fuck season oops ur working saturdays all month have fun!
well luckily for me its weekday nights
i think you should never do that again
king schmidi taking fate into his own hands
DEMOLISH goes BRRRRRRRRRR
Pugs are hilarious
Notices shaman is in literal leveling greens for a +6
Like explorer gear ungraded.
Tells them they don't belong in a +6 after they get one shot on blightbone by the cone (no they didn't pop a defensive according to Omni CD at least)
Get's told by the tank "WELL YOU DIED TOO WHAT'S UR EXCUSE" As if it wasn't a wipe already by then anyways
Well they’re good. They are a shaman \s
Like why do people just want to be carried lol
purps are cool
like my enjoyment of alts is basically gearing them
when they have no prospects of doing hard raid content
it kinda dies for me
Well a 6 is a stretch for someone in greens. A few random blues but multiple 550ilvl pieces is too much. I was tanking 3s and 4s on my warrior at ~570 though and was hanging okay.
Not just a few
EVREY PIECE
Their entire gear was fresh
I means 3s and 4s are fine for someone at their level
Oof. That sucks. They got in under the radar. Write you a Lisa script to loop through and check item level lol
But going into a 6 and getting one shot and doing 50k in aoe (not exaggerating)...
Like how am I suppose to not feel like I'm getting trolled
also not my key
Yeah, you might have been the byproduct of a paid run and were used as slave labor.
Seen that shit where people bring in others to carry a homie and then they get the payment. I’ve only seen it once and I was livid.
I mean it dosen't even make sense at a 6
why not just do a full mail stack -tank at a 10
what's everyone running for a colossus setup?
So
ya know that charge cancel dark exile trick on the last boss of NW?
I did that on accident LOL
hey guys, first time as arms on hc queen, whats the best ways to break the roots in P1 other than bs
fury was pretty easy as we always had something up, not too sure about arms though
As in do damage to them or just escape?
Charge a far enough person if you're playing slayer
Otherwise all I can think of is Avatar or BS
true, i could always just jump out and charge to break root
you can reflect it also
BS should be up for every set
and for the double just reflect second
does it reflect the root itself? or just reduce dmg
nice ok
you can also reflect those blaster guys lines in intermission
or p2 or w/e thats called
i've always popped reflect but i've been fury so
I prefer to keep my root to pad it 
always had bs/OF/ava to break
Don't you still have BS up frequently with arms on that fight?
it's mainly just the last 2 roots
which come one after the other
i did think about bs and ava but I was wondering if there was anything else
Reflect and charge would be it I guess
dope, ty for the info
Unless ur guild wants to external you or something
Like freedom or something
But I can hear the healer priest protests
For my homies that have done 10+, what is your overall looking like?
Finishing up a 10 Siege and my dmg felt so low for it
Back to where I was during last season
I need this add lol
I wouldn't have to do this if the game could just give me an ara kara key
depends on a key
but between 800k-1,1m
1,1m is rather extreme, usually it's like 950k-1m
oh this isnt a prot channel
lmao
bed angle
it's proactive, meaning you only get value out of it if you remember to use it.
many folks run the Fueled by Violence bc it's one less thing to manage, even if Ignore Pain can prevent a death
that, and it's a little weak for arms after it got nerfed. Still useful though, but only if you actually cast it
1.2-1.6 m depending on key, wipes, deaths, etc
for me
What ilvl are you at?
siege is a weird key b/c it doesn't seem like there are any big pulls
it's always 3-6 targets
Mists 9 just now had me just under 1m as well
Although the ret blowing everything up didn't help
yeah this is a pretty standard overall, not insanely high but not bad at all
1.4-1.6
Strong deswind
I don't see many people in 10 pugs doing over 1.6m without aug
It'll get better with gear. The gearing progression this expansion is slow, unless you mythic raid
Yeah
Since it costs 90 gilded crests to craft, that's a lot of upgrades
Its about my limit, I have some pulls pretty high but haven't ended in the 1.7s yet overall
Small pulls or grp wipes can drop overall fast too in my experience
I think it's fun
I'm 611
You can take champion gear up to 619
Yeah I started my warrior last week. Just went prot and did my usual key progression to eventually get gear
Wait - bricking a key doesn't drop the level anymore?
yes it doesa
Being under 619 on a main is almost inting at this point
You can delve to 619
Ah yes sorry I hate delves
Yeah it's absoutle garbage so much so I shouldn't even be able to do keys
I might as well be a fresh 80 lmao
There's just so many ways to get gear
Tbh I'd be higher if I raided
Not having it is just like almost going out of your way to not get it
But work once again said fuck no lol
why doesn't unhinged work with sweeping strikes? would we be too powerful?
because blizzard said no
It used to, not really sure why they changed it
rip
I'll admit, I just assumed it worked this way until I noticed my collateral damage stacks weren't too high
then sadge
yeah, was a semi-recent change
guys is arms worth it
are you having fun ¯_(ツ)_/¯
complaining about not getting into keys or what's the context there
Honestly I feel like part of being low geared is just not raiding
Raids are such a huge boon to flightstones and crests
if I just had my weekends back to myself I could do it, but...well that's not happening till next year more then likelyu
You can just pug into raids when you have time, that's what I do. After my kid goes to sleep I chill then hop in raid pf for a bit
Delves and the world resonance things also give lots of valorstones
And can be solod
My luck with pugging in general has been beyond abysmal in keys, I don't think it'll improve in raid
Then again...Yeah arms is a bit better in raid then we are in keys
Arms is fine in keys. It's biggest enemy is community perception atm
So like most specs that aren't meta or don'at least bring mandatory utility
goat
I'm at 622 ilvl and 2550 io and I got kicked from 5 grps this weekend within 30s of being invited lol
For 9s and 10s
I assume because I wasn't fury
my problem is the literally just won't give me the one key I need
I have not seen a single ara kara key reroll
The one I did was because of a lucky pug inv
Like I honestly swear the reroll system is rigged in favor of Necrotic wake and espically siege of boralus
I don't want to do 20 more keys in hopes and prayers I get the one I actually need for score.
not playin much this season.. im around 2300
sigh I really wish I had more time
having like 3 days I can even play for any amount of time to even do keys is pretty soul crushing ngl
its hard to find group and ppl wont invite you coz there is better class options
Well I see a lot of people firmly believing warrior is the worst class in the game
People in 6s to 8s are pretty bad meta chasers tbh
Its always been that though
Mid level keys are full of the worst class re rollers and meta chasers
i think ppl think bad about warriors coz there is tons of bad warriors
You just run your own key and deal. Easiest way to maximize your play time if it's short
Ara kara espically sucks because evreyone is signing up for it
Yes but again. I can't get the key I want
You just run it
I've run my own key mostly and not seen a single ara kara.
And I feel like I'm genuinely wasting my time to just run evrey other dungeon and pray to god I get one
And then pray noone fucks it up
Send it
Colossus > Slayer with the nerfs?
at least i managed to complete 10s to get big vault.. imagine, my myth options sucks xD
I'd rather just try to see if anyone else's keys gets dumbstered
If you have SD you have jugg
Nope
Slayer still on top for ST
In keys run either or
for m+ i mean
Referr to above statement
Both are fine for keys
Got it. Rotation made it seem like you did it with 3x
I mostly hate having another button to worry about
Thanks!
hey but i quite like the st improve from colossus, not the buff i mean thhe talents... runnin SD massacre blunt instruments, arterial bleed.. not great but passable
Its number 1 priority ability with 3x mfe
Need a little WA for mfe
Bc of the bladestorm cd reduction and bonus damage and not wasting possible mfe stacks
Just send SD and you're good
Never have to worry about it
For st raid
tyty
Feel like I need to work on my execute phase play as well. Feel like I run out of rage often
Which seems incorrect
just hit OP more
Did tacti proc? Hit OP
BS also helps too
But you aren't suppose to JUST spam execute
You may also be overusing ms?
Yeah that part I've worked into it after getting 4pc
Always hit OP with tacti as well
Maybe I'm overthinking it as well lol
True that
its such a small dps increase to use with 2 4p buffs
that theres something else wrong almost certrainly
certainly
Could also be partly exceedingly bad RNG
I just been executing 2x keeping op off 2 stacks and pressing ms on cd but im casual aotc raider
Using ms on cd would be the only thing I could think of causing rage issues in st raid execute phase
Don't get me wrong, dps definitely goes way up in execute phase
Just some fights feel like I'm rage starved is all
Oh ok
Raid it feels mostly good
I misunderstood then
In keys that's gonna happen tbh
I run colossus without execute talents for keys
how do you guys keep track of sudden death and marked for execution procs to best prioritize when to use execute during the non-execute phse?
also how do you guys keep track of rend
I see button glow i press button and watch rend debuff
All of that has one answer: weak auras
Luxthos weakaura pack tracks rend on your current target and lights up when pandemic ready to refresh
Also for marks just....use nameplates?
that's what i been doing but when I look at the logs of other players, seems like they are hitting ms way more than I do
thank you, I figured that I'd need to look into weak auras sooner or later. What is nameplates?
Thank you will look into this
hello friends, in the current arms iteration is cleave a gain on 2t? 
If you have "Fervor of Battle" in 2 target:
- on Slayer it's an improvement over unbuffed Execute/OP/Slam
- on Colossus it's basically only better than Slam
ye on col, forgot to mention
thats what i have been doing up until now but i wasnt sure it was still a thing
👍
Outside of execute phase should just be keeping ms on cd as much as possible. I dont think many people are running ms resets so maybe youre just not using soon enough when its up
I think sudden death do take prio over it but you preferrably wanna use it while ms still on cd
The guide on wowhead said to prio execute with 2 stacks of sudden death, 3 marked for execution, or to refresh juggernaut but some of the guides on YouTube said to just hit the buttons that light up when they do. I guess this will likely mean main priority will be to follow that when Ms is on cooldown
if you just hit the buttons as they lit up, you'd be pressing like 9 buttons simultaneously at all times
Arms isn't that bad about it, but Fury is a god damn christmas tree
a lot of the youtube guides oversimplify things or are outdated 😅
Yeah, one of the reasons I never got into youtube; it's just too hard to keep everything updated, and although that gives you an excuse to upload more, it's also a lot more work
Thank you for the responses! I really appreciate them. Lots to learn about arms
One more question I just thought of, when outside execute phase do y’all find yourself always capped on rage?
Yes, that's how Arms works atm basically
Even in Execute this can happen
Rage has been a pretty cosmetic resource since DF
Ty!
ignore pain doesn't count towards anger management friend
What's arms mythic+ damage like compared to slayer fury?
thanks, i hate it
Ima spam it anyway
this was removed in 10.2, almost a year ago
https://www.wowhead.com/news/dragonflight-patch-10-2-guardians-of-the-dream-official-patch-notes-335731
Developer's note: Ignore Pain’s interaction with Rage spent mechanics has caused its use to deviate from the intent as pre-emptive mitigation into an offensive rotational ability. We are removing Ignore Pain’s interaction with these mechanics [ie: Anger Management] to restore it to a purely defensive choice.
Ignore pain is still a pretty boss move that I’ve probably been under utilizing
Ya you still got excess rage for it and your healers will like you more
Macro ignore pain with the shiekd bash, works wondet
Okay one downside to arms. I feel like rend should last longer
or get refreshed by somethin aside from execute phase
Slayer looks more fun tbh
Hi! Sometimes I’m finding it very hard to play around transmitter trinket. Can anyone point me towards a guide of spreadsheet that explains the use and when and where to use it. I’m sitting on a lot of good hero track trinket, but sometimes feel like transmitter handicaps me more than it benefits the 14k str
Thank you. But I’m looking more into info about when or where to use it, I already have the WA.
1:30 trinket use it everytime with avatar
Slayer arms matches it in st and prio dam, less burst
Colossus beats fury in aoe as it can burst every pack, gets rawdogged in ST
Depends on comp / dungeon really
Fury ST is probably more non existent 
This trinket must have some problem with me, every time I cast demolish it goes wtf
Thanks
Arms also gets turbo rawdogged on rashnan specifically unless you spec for it
The dungeon version
In keys fury st is good
RA fury does st
Sorry I haven't seen one if that's the case 
Play it urself
Like everytime I have a pug fury lil bro is below tanks
You know fury aoe build doesnt give up close to any st for aoe
That's their entire gimmick
Yes I am aware, just saying that if I don't want to play a spec that I don't enjoy
Not gonna change all to haste mastery just to play fury
I am not telling you to go fury
Just correcting the fury does no St part
I wouldnt wish current fury on anyone
To me the number tuning is just very low, watching a fury player (biz??) playing 12-13 key and man is only bearly ahead while sweating
Hello i have a question about the arme collosus spec.
When you go for a aoe situation, do you prefer to keep the tide of battle buff that boost your overpower damage or do you prefer to use it with demolish insta?
Use demo asap with stacks when possible
U wanna keep It on cooldown so you can build to the next one asap
The overpower bonus damage isnt interesting for the aoe cleave ?
One cast of demo in aoe is up to 30mil + for me
OP does not to 30 mil extra with the buff
(this bis ignoring damage taken increase mobs get from demo..)
Thanks for the infos 👍
DF op wouldve
Sadly martial prowess (op buff) only affects cleave and MS
They meant the colossus tree thing
I was wondering if playing arms is better in GM
Wanna try arms
but idk if i should be playing colossus or slayer
12s be HARD
can someone review my log from yesterday. is in #449510248579858432
is arms ST worse than fury's in M+ build?
jugg build is okay, but arms still suffers from DO AOE or DO ST
I wanna play arms in GB
seems to me like the pulls kinda favor arms
especially pug pulls
idk, I could be wrong
Slayer or colossus?
slayer is what ive been playing
colossus does not look like fun i have not touched it
legit doesnt matter
doing gb 9
slayer will be dead in keys on reset anyway
prob want 2 ranged at least behind healer + 1 since all melee will be scuffed
Roll unholy and actually be under the radar
Also does more damage in bigger pulls
Brainless gameplay with rider + pest scythe
UH is only better in high keys with specific pulls
big enough
in usual keys fdk is gonna be better
In usual keys any spec will work though 
If I am exclusively playing m plus unholy is going to be my choice
Also UH is pretty unlikely to get hit with nerfs while FDK is likely to be next on the chopping board
Why wouldn't UH get hit with nerfs? you never know
same reason arms would get nerfed
My personal pov is that it's clunky to play and it's not popular, damage profile is under the radar too
Like virulent plague is almost half of the make up 
Rankings wise it's mid as well
what was the juggernaut spec for arms in keys?
i think its colosus as well
i was gonna give it a go
It's slayer based
Probably not, slayer plays alot better with execute while Colo kind of makes you not wanna press execute
throw up the other 1 i gotta do a mist 10, and all expect me to be fury so i HAVE to lame as arms 😄
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/slayer/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBAOVVEVURFFUWFUEQCEAEFVVUBB <--- just this 1 ?
jugg is slayer only
Close enough
Your aoe damage will be kind of anemic though
yea, but we are playing dreadnaught no ?
also we still have cleave?
i dont c where i lost to much aoe
ahh blodborne
jesus ye that one prob hurts
how much % dmg is the pot in a fight if you have 100% uptime with it?
It's mostly because warbringer demo does alot of damage and Colo heavily incentivizes pressing cleave
Like really fat cleaves
ok but colo isnt upgraded yet r?
its wednesday?
( ive been so much afk lately i cant keep up )
muh 0.9% ST buff
how is it not a buff in aoe btw
"This is without considering any potential action updates as a result of these changes."
i would imagine this means they arent taking arterial in the sim currently?
ya i suppose so
Action update is changing the rotation
Stuff like arterial is entirely passive
So you don’t need to change the apl
simple questin. slayer still better than colo?
Doesn't really matter for questing
In ST yes
Havnt done any big sims with Art Bleeding since 1v5 is extremly strong any time you can cleave like 3+ targets consistently
Its also not that strong of a node, only giving an extra 1.8% in St
That’s honestly not bad
Considering soa is about 1.8% over dn
And we never take dn
A lot of people just take soa for prio
ah i was thinkin m+
DN is barely a gain in 5T over SoA and 1v5 is like 6% ahead of art bleeding in 5T
Yeah but giving up 25% of your cleave damage for any pull with 5+ targets
for a lil bleeding
hmm so tested
juggernaut
hard being carried by the affix u can keep stacks up on 😄
any1 got a colo build
for pure st
( as much st as we can that is ) 😄
m+
st
like
ngl its freeing being lower geared at 614 running my key ppl expect me to suck
so i can lame 😛
pure st for keys would prob just be jugg
worst case my 10 breaks lowers
but aint gonna be good
collosus
ya i mean colo
I love demolish, but seeing it not crit at all on big packs for like 10 casts is just pure sadness. :<
Getting Parry on demolish is better 
But then you crit on 1st boss in mists and suddenly it was all worth it
theres no way u dont play sks ?:D
or you do a 10mil no crit 
and you're still #1 on that boss
I should delay my demo till i get 10 stacks of the buff or use it at cd
First instantly then you should always have 10 stacks for every usage
ill do this with SOA + sks instead of battlelord, and arterial blood
i dont c the value of battle lord
How to keep the stacks ups?
You get them naturally if you do your rotation properly
Dont even need to think about them
Ye you're doing something very wrong then
i wouldnt go sks
Where i should read the build to understand it? Icy or wowhead? Thanks
I'd go wowhead and look at some arms POV m+ runs on youtube
sks seems ok with arterial
I really feel weird using ravage instead bs
But colossus seems feels funnier
Last night i did a 4m crit
In plenty of dungeons youre hitting 2-3 mobs
Thats when sks is huge
And on bosses
I dont rly like it myself
But i cant deny its good
I'd rather have it aoe detonate our bleed
That would look sick with a blood explosion vfx
sks button feels so bad but it's strong yep
both
Crit is our lord and saviour
Fury = more burst, arms = more sustained aoe
Hopefully they rethink current arms a bit after next patch
ye but that isnt a ST build now is it ?:D
St is quite important in m+ especially this season
The increase from 11 to 12 is insane
what do we feel about something like this ?
or is loosing bonegrinder and battlelord fackin myself over?
How do you even play colossus without a shammy its just a pain then
if I dont have a shammy I just go slayer
yeye
im just asking if this is a decent stish build for demo
memeing with pugs so who cares 😛
i could also just play fury slayer for the next 2 days
You talent into BL
I play demolish arm and i do a lot of deeeeeps
Under bl i got the 6M and finish on 4.5M
Can you help me with the opener? Im having a Hard time
Charge thunderclap
Swipping strike
Skullspitter and colosus smach
Then ravger and cleav op cleav op
Ignore me, found it
Im running warbreaker
Try to use demoolish under swipping strike
So after that demo i will always have 10 stacks right?
yeah saw it later, sorry, was a small pic on my end.
For the next one
But ravaer is not supposed to give a free sweepings strike?
It doesnt sweep the ms
But you gain more demo stacks
Cuz ???
Avatar i mean
I am not a pro player i give you what i know
With this rotation i hit 3m without bl
No one use this
Hm, searching aroun in here gives me the answer that secondary stats aint that big of a deal for arms?
Have been checking secondary stats suggestions etc, have like 6 different rings I have been trying to SIM and so on, and all that just made me a bit confused.
Example, bloodmallet secondaries for 1 patchwerk, 40% crit 40% haste, 10% in the other 2 each as the "optimal" example.
I thought suggestions as that was like 40% OF the secondary stats as in like 15 000 in crit, 15 00 in haste, but when Simming, it keeps telling me to put on more haste, so in raw numbers im closer to 20 000 in haste, and like 12 000 in crit? like, should I aim for 40% critchance, and 40% pure haste on the character cheet if I follow that example?
EDIT: Sidenote, can I see raw secondary stats or secondary % on a raidbot-sim?
40 40 10 10 is illusion
Just sim
gotcha!
So the "top gear" that seems to differ slightly on all sites is kinda "meh"? that.. gonna make for a interesting dialoge on the raid-looting in my guild. exluding trinkets, since they are easier.
Topgear is your current best
You dont have the sites gear
For trinkets take your best topgear output and then droptimizer
Then show your guild those items are your best/biggest gains

For MM + What's the best talents aoe for the moment guy ?
I like all spec on wowhead 🤣
Arms maybe starts to catch up to fury in higher keys? Or fury all the way?
fury heal more
If ur min maxing go fury
hhey str in arms and dreadnought isnt muchh of a damage right ?
Diff isnt big yea
im thinkin on droppin it and grabbin SD
sd procs shall ccontribute to demolish stacs
i was noticing my overpower dam overall and isnt that much
im runnin an sob9 to try it out xD
Wouldnt drop it for SD as SD procs have very low prio in aoe
what
Hey, been playing Prot so far this season and thinking of setting up Arms as off-spec. Doing mid lvl m+ mostly. How is Arms preforming for you guys in M+, is it strogest in cleave situations or?
idk about sd.. execute procs helps alot on st but i felt i lost some dam
we broke, we wiped on last boss
Ok, thanks!
Bro I hope we get buffed soon fury is so sleep
What kinda st are u doing rn
Estimate
What is the best arms build rn been playing DK wanna come back to warr
played like this, maybe blunt instruments
Ty
Stay dk xd
Arms you can rotate builds a lot
Depends on key and preference
Warrior is my fav class DK is fun but yea
Thus generally works, swap sd into dn
man im testing things around xD its better you grab wowhead buiuld
What is arms BIS wep
A crafted one?
any weapon you can get your hands on tbh
guide says this one though if you dont go for crafted
Weapon is just raw ilvl
yes
but its expensive to upgrade it with stones
so ur best go is crafted and upgrade everything else with stones
it does matter when not everyone can invest the same amount of hours played as you bud
i raidlog you muppet
and u get capped by crests? tell me about it
yeah it actually goes pretty fast if you time keys
nice raidlogging
oh my bad that i didnt use your exact definition of raidlogging
theres more than one?
also even then by your logic if you literally only have time to log in for raid every week you'd still want to optimize for crests rather than stones
who mentioned raid logging was you
and getting capped by 350 crests a week is a lot of content
as u can get 12 per key
It's 90 per week
u get 90 extra a week
90 relevant crests
unless you mean all the difficulties which is silly cause you shouldve capped hc last week
Time 8 keys you have vault done crest done
either way to conclude the original point you should just craft wep anyways cause its just the best craft for early season and by the time you get your mythic wep you'll have enough sparks to craft whatever else you need
8a don’t give gilded 😦
Just do delves and play alone 
7 for hero one end of dungeon
8 for vault 4/6 pulls
9 for gilded crests and hero 2 end of dungeon
10 for myth 1 vault
Does anyone have a quick answer on the reason that Arms builds aren’t using Colossal Smash in M+?
Everyone seems to be using blunt instruments 🤔
I hope every warrior is using CS in m+
but if u meant warbreaker
Blunt brings more ST with a slight aoe loss
over the bigger st loss for slight more aoe with WB
Also +3 Sec iftk
I think there's an argument for WB if colossus. Since Haste has less value than in Slayer. And Ravager also doesn't apply DW, so it becomes real annoying when you want DW up for the mastery, but you don't want to use Cleave as an opener due to Collateral stacks from a previous SS.
But if Slayer I'd always use BT
can anyone tell me what this is and how to remove
ty
So TC rend and normal rend does the same bleed dmg?
same bleed because they both apply rend but rend the spell does more on hit which is technically better for ST
Aah okay. Was hoping I could use same keybind 😛 not much diff tho I guess
yeah not too much different if youre not about min maxing that hard you can just TC
Man idk that SD is the play
Its hard to fit in during aoe and you hit op so much more. I think soa would be better and give more overall dam by quite a bit
But lmk how it felt
do yall prefer Bladestorm or Ravenger
i quite liked, it also counts as demo staccks
maybe droppin 1 bloodbouurne ? idk what to drop
i dropped srt in arms and i felt overpower hits nothing
hey there iam trying colossus atm and having a blast useing it but i cant rly get a good guide or should i use wowhead for that ??
yes or the guide section of the discord
Outperforming those frost DKs
spinning = more fun than watching something spin
That actually makes sense
So how much better is fury to arms rn
i have no idea how much better but fury setup is just easier imo
I've been giving arms a go in keys and it's harder for me to press all my buttons properly on big aoe pulls
compared to fury
You get used to it
yeah i know, just need to do more keys
During a execute phase of a raid boss, how do yall maintain your rage? I know I shouldnt be executing below a certain threshold.
Do yall use an auto attack timer bar to track rage increases?
Well arms has been infinity better than Fury for a long time from what I heard ig it is fury time
Opp op at <85 > ms 2ep2lp> exe > op
And that just maintains rage
- have a shaman
there's just more buttons in arms too
Could you give me that order of operations without the shorthand haha. I think I know ms and guessing opp is overpower.
Opp is the opprtunist buff
Buffed op is disgustingly high prio as long as u wont overcap
EP is Exe Precision, LB is Lethal Blows the 4p buff
Ms only with 2 execute debuff 2 tier
Ahhh ok I understand.
So instead of just straight spamming the exe i should still focus on getting some buffs like ep and lp before throwing it.
@boreal quartz you must vod review my execute and tally the mistakes i made
i just use a MS glow WA for the EP/4p buff condition
Is that custom or would you happen to have a link?
Also, huge thanks for the help! ❤️
mine is custom, not at comp unfortunately but i bet you can find one on wago
maybe even search here feel like ive seen some linked
All good! I really appreciate the help yall.
does this looks correct?
charge weave is great to get rage, but u need to sync the auto atack swing time and gcd
nice dam, key level ? and your overall?
tirna +2
i feel weak.. i want to use colossus but i don't know how to use it. i always miss using skullsplitter cause i never used it before as arms
What ilvl you chillin at?
How many keybinds do you need for this spec bro it's so many ;-;
go for colossus, might feel clunky but you will get the rotation and setups
I think for most keys at about 10-11 I end up around 1.2-1.4m dps (augless) depending on pull size and speed etc
i did 1 10 xD
Man I've been enjoying colossus
me too, more than i though i would
i feel colossus is way funnier but i hate not doing it properly
I’ve ended up tanning most of my 10s and above just to help guildies get crests etc on reset
Tanking *
also i often die by mechs casting demolish XD
what are the CDs we should always line up? like CS + BS, ava + BS
So my arms score has dipped big time v sad
I'm guessing skullsplitter and roar?
Not fun getting a fat crit with huge modifiers and ripping aggro from my tank though 
BS won’t lineup neatly most of the time but if you can hold for CS on ST for a few seconds it’s nice
man, when you get like 12 colateral stacks, rav, wb and 2 stacks of op... you cleave 4m
how long should I hold BS for ava?
insane fun pack to pack preparation
Isn't it like ~4s otherwise send?
wow only hold if ava is up within 4 seconds?
I may be incredibly wrong, wowhead will give a better idea
Way smarter people in here 
thats even shorter than furys timing lol
idk about slayer stuff, i feel you play without even thinkin about hero talents and you shall play it propperly
I remember someone saying it's a very minor optimization, might as well just send
If it's just a few seconds away you can hold, but don't do it too long
CS and Ava together is the ideal buff
For what I know yes but just for a few seconds
CS and ava tend to align together, usually 2 CS for 1 ava
do u guys take skull spliter as colossus in dungeons?
But you could have a situation where they don't align well
yeah I've found myself with cds out of alignment a couple times
but it's most likely just due to me not knowing arms too well atm and wanting to hold stuff for the next pack
If they don't align and are more than some seconds away is okay to send them I think
I always take it
yes
Some people are really not fond of it
I wanna try colossus but I dunno if I can manage another button 💀
But I feel it helps a lot generating extra rage and the extra bleed speed is nice
its an nice prio target button, works nicely with TR
coming from fury arms feels bloated
It's okay, Slayer despite the nerfs can do well and you will have ST, and it has a smoother damage profile
you run bloodsurge ?
yeah fury is really just reck + ava + roar + BS + rampage + CB/RB + BB/BT + WW/Slam
and reck ava roar can be macrod
since they always align at 1.5 min
i heard fury is gettin huge single target buff
unless you go uproar i think
I actually don't I think, are you seeing some good effects with it?
Yeah he is getting buffs to a couple core skills and to the tier set
Triying to compensate for the nerfs
yea, aoe potential super op.. nerfed to the ground xD
TBF at this expansion start the burst of fury salyer was pretty insane
Was just a matter of time it was changed
Athough... meanwhile here we have retri palas...
Everytime the pop the cds their bar just skyrockets
fury st was very bad... the buff is wellcomed
they dont even come close to fury burst
No
no one comes close to fury burst
Fury burst until know was legit busted
still is
yeah fury burst is crazy but equaled out by garbage sustain
I see
Yeah arms on the other hand has always kinda been the sustained guy, playing more on the long run
But with all the hero shit IDK
Things are getting moved around
its nice to notice our main dam is our execute phase xD so on bosses im behind and i catch up with team
its all about timing
if your timer match nicely
your value skyrocket
thats why Fury has a really good tier
but without it
Fury would be garbo
only 23% more dmg while going into Execute now for Arms
its not the absurd 40% from DF anymore
yes, they say we are the best execute class
probably not anymore
Wow, I didn't remember that
im about to run sob 9 and i shall send the resulkts
i had some big fun as Colossus yesterday
Did you see some substantial improvement with this?
dumb question but does shattering work on the emissary?
damn ppl wiped on first boss and quitted
Based
no i dont run bloodsurge, idk if its good
trying this one... i dropped 1 bb for sd
yo, is there a option for bigwigs to turn Off the nameplate spell cooldowns? got wa for it but there is no option for that afaik
Likely in little wigs
When i run my own key as arms
I always bring a shaman
My friend asked what to main for season 1, I told him ele shaman

If you go back into 10s. I'd recommend the cleave talent but arterial bleed with no fort is solid
For me it's like a 20k diff single target to have arterial bleed
I thought it would be higher
hm only if I had posted the number diff multiple times to gere
its huge diff
Is stacking/maintaining jugg #1 prio for slarms in raid?
I'ts a big prio although I wouldn't call it number 1 I think
But the thing is to plan around your timing depending on how much time you have on the SD or jugger timer
If posible wait for 2 stacks of sd or until the timers are going to run out to send it
Guys
we are all in 612 ilevel
necrotic +7
did i feel okay for warrior ? (juggernauth build)
pâladin are broken ?
I just wish people did 1m+ dps on my keys 💀
Sweeping Strikes is meant to work on Unhinged Mortal Strike procs during Bladestorm right?
no
mists 9
So we need to avoid overlaping Sweeping Strikes and Bladestorm then?
big portion of cleave dam is due collateral damage stacks, try always to reach AT LEAST 10 stacks... if you SS and bladestorm, you shall lose a bunch os stacks
you play this ?
no i played the build i just posted
this one
okay i just missed it 🙂
it's a dogshit new feature that you cannot turn off in BW options
you have to into your addons folder and manually delete the file from the plugins folder
ouur dots is huge dam, we cant drop bb for nothing
Fellas, try this
and then you have to do this again every single time you update BW
battlelord is nice addition, but arterial bleed is decent for single
and sks works with... idk im testing things around... this week i felt my single suck ass
tryin to move things around to get some single target
ths build you have sks + massa + Blord for ST, if you want more you can go SoA > DN. hence why playing 1v5 > Art Bleeding
thanks, felt like I was missing something
walhe, i think dn is kinda bad... str in arms feels more powerfull
overpower is not big dam this exp... op used to be our main dam soure (overpower +DN) now its very wack (on my results, mists 8 overpower did 6%)
just did some quick talent check
not sure what build @thick kelp showed last time
i have so little free time
i've been lucky enough to play with big gamers
tank was big, insane omega boss pull
Nice, how about bosses?
hehe and the cicle goes on and on... old warrior soul todu
nice, massacre is great for bosses, but packs dont change much, i might copy you ppaww
i used Dslice before wich is pretty fair for talent compare for mplussings
Not bad, still on the million
idk about blunt instruments
ok is great on ST, but wb makes demo and fully stacked cleave slaps... like 6m aoe
yeah should probably go full AOE for Colossus anyway
@wanton sierra manki - push more - buy the time i lvl to 60 my barb - i want u in top 20
im way to old to reach such spots xD
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7REDg6PT1pSiHCYeY7EGDf i hate that ST loss 😄
old means nothing - am the only1 old here - my old warrior soul
we are too old to spend 8 hours a day grinding keys
i play 2 keys and i feel tired as fuck xD need some sofá and grab an smoke
i feel that is easier to play an 10s with friends than 6-7s on pug
ill try another dg, i shall post the results
I like how arms has so many different available iterations it can play rn
ill try ppaww build
If you do or don't want sks, if you want bleed or cleave prio, BI or WB
Col or sla
Lots of variations
in DF we had plenty of different build too
i'm not playing perfectly obviously, but just on 5t dummies does arms do very little damage or do i just absolutely suck
using the m+ build on wowhead
arms gameplay is all about stacking and allign window burst and percentages
yes and two staccks of overpower... cleavin around 6M aoe
i got agro issues with pally prot
the other tanks is fine
joined NW9! lets roll
garbage ilvl, i was like 606 without most enchants, but usually around like 1.7ish sustained 5t
which i feel is horrible
1.7 on the higher end
1.7 at 606 seems fine yeah
dont worry about it and gear up
play arterial bleed if youre worried about st dam
feels like its heavy griefing 😄
i just mean in relation to other specs/classes
my ret is similar and a good amount higher, then fury was just a lot better with same gear
How long of a sample? Fury falls off hard after their 90s cds
Ahh that's the problem. Ret is busted in AoE
That's your answer
Fury burst has been really busted too, with the nerf it will go a bit down but maybe it will still be nice
The thing is you are used to specs that are just tuned pretty high
thane buffs are coming tom right
Some are coming tomorrow some are coming later
damn ppl dont know how to do 3rd boss ): we called it
i already got those totally vanish spell/ hit not only on warrior, can't explain it, and never slowmotionned it, but i really got those , something wrong happened
parry maybe?
never notified of a parry, unless there a now parry's that happen without notification
i think this happened to me sometimes on hc when the pull was happening and I executed but it didnt do shit
It happens to me quite often where I would execute, it would take my global but not do anything
i can't see a parry on log
I have looked through my logs, and my exe doesn’t even register.. but it would take a global and sometimes it would take my sudden death proc 😂
You don’t have enough weapon skill
Go to durotar and hit boars until you max it
got it
Is there such a thing as "you casted it, but then you turned like 91 degree's" so by the time the cast queue went off, you were facing away from him too much?
yeah i noticed that happen to me once or twice but just assumed it was parry
I always assume it’s something like deez said
glad to know its not parry to be mad at this time, the ability can just fizzle
Running out of melee range in the last second
it happened again previous pull, this time it ate my SD proc, but not my marks
Like just ever so slightly
so i just sat on 3 marks unable to execute them
yeah this happens
when i notice it
definitely did not run out of melee
I’m not even sure what could even cause that interaction but if we have entire abilities thinking they went off and consuming proxs but not dealing damage
That’s insane
it doesnt consume marks in my experience
bc it doesnt hit
it just fizzles but is “casted” so eats sd
Yeah consuming the SD on cast is strange
That shouldn’t interact like that
Has it done that before this tier?
I don’t recall it doing that
i dont know but if it has, its infinitely more obvious with marks
10 Arakara down 
Mmmhh
I've had this happen but my SD does not consume
https://www.twitch.tv/critcakeeu/clip/YawningManlySamosaStrawBeary-dKz3zlGQcXsbMnp- the live version of the execute missing ?

I just thought it was the condemn animation bug at it again and didn't pay more attention
i'm blaming that too !
or maybe just server issue
parry
Group is starting to attempt 12’s the damage difference from 11 to 12 is pretty wild
Yeah even at .5 speed the animation is there, the cast is there, the SD is consumed and literally nothing happens
That’s insane
SD stack actually go up to 2
That’s after the ms though right
Like right before you see 1 stack get consumed
Wait no I changed quality and you’re right
It goes to 2
it goes up to 2 at the exact same time he can push MS actually
Yeah
ship it to blizzard HQ right now !
This just has to be a coding thing. Unless I’m missing something, he’s inside the boss, cast goes off, no parry no block, no mechanics going on that would affect it
Now I have an excuse to send to my raid next time my dps is slow, thanks crit!
I honestly feel like I’m trolling not running with a shaman in keys, there’s times where I feel like I’m just rage starved
as colossus you will regardless
even as colossus w?



