arms

[lime plank]

many thanks

[rapid bronze]

Fury is your teenage cousin who is still angsty about everything. Arms is your high functioning stoner friend who is competent but chill. Prot is your socially awkward older brother who’s a neurologist and you’re secretly in awe of them but don’t want to ask too many questions about their life

[quick edge]

Or should I build 2 sudden death and then start jugg with execute?

[slender sonnet]

real

if I never played ptr remix

and just stuck with fury

imagine what my life would be

[edgy solstice]

that's me imagining how rich and successful i'd be if i didn't play wow

[boreal quartz]

slopmix once again proves useful

[unique warren]

colossus talents in #dps-faq its uptaded?

[fringe moon]

colossus already does more DPS in keys than slayer imo

[hushed hornet]

How can i find the rotation for the m+ full aoe build

[slender sonnet]

Finally

[manic river]

This basically

[wanton sierra]

hey i told you that this node was way weaker

i mean, not you fred but you guys xD

i still think its not huge bc you stack em up them demo

[hot current]

is it possible for colossus to do some dmg to bosses?

[wanton sierra]

my single target dam is shiet xD

[manic stirrup]

arterial node being buffed is nice

it was already good

[hot current]

i've done some 9 on tyranical as colossus, but the dmg on the bosses is just so weak

[manic stirrup]

for m+

[cunning sleet]

Wet noodle damage using colossus on boss

[manic stirrup]

its not wet noodle its just kinda mid

theres ways you can make it not totally beans

with arterial bleed, massacre, and strength of arms

it won’t ever be good but passable

[wanton sierra]

how much of dot dam do we do as colossus? i might try arterial bleed

[manic stirrup]

it’s good

you lose a little bit of aoe for a bit of st

[hot current]

do we pair massacre with executioners precision?

[wanton sierra]

this is mists 9 i juust runned, i feel muy dots are not hittin hard

we got aug xD

[wanton sierra]

ill try arterial bleed, i might pick SD too, idk i hate to press slam when nothing procs

maybe blunts instruuments too

[vast helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[manic stirrup]

roar deep wounds and rend are 10% each every key with arterial bleed

[wanton sierra]

10% you mean 20% fully stacked

oh but you get half coz we wont maintain it fultime, i guess

[ionic crown]

is the wowhead arms rotation accurate?

im trying to find more ressources but there is just builds in the pin, not rotations

[hazy flower]

Yes wowhead is up to date

[ionic crown]

thank you

[hazy flower]

@manic stirrup our pres was sick today so we didnt go for the worm, would’ve been easy kill

Just went for reclear + hc splits

I got fed lots of loot tho

[edgy solstice]

they're like 9% without arterial tho

[hazy flower]

Im at massive 627.13 now

[manic stirrup]

i mean 10% of my overall

[manic stirrup]

sadge

we shouldve killed monday but our thursday sucked

[pseudo cargo]

hey guys , what build are you using for this week? I was using slayer but Im doing less overall

[tranquil sundial]

colossus

[hazy flower]

Its fine if hes back tomorrow the boss dies

[edgy solstice]

i def prefer one against many rn but arterial buff will put it even/above

[tranquil sundial]

yeah

might have passable st then

in m+

[hazy flower]

funny how adds dont count to log anymore so me and other war just went fury and soloed all rash adds lmaoo

literally 2 of us had like 85% add damage done to adds

[twin hazel]

t

[ionic crown]

sorry for the noob questions but im just swapping over to arms overall..
is it normal to be more or less perma ragecapped on dummy atm or am i missing something?

[leaden oracle]

yea pre exe youll be rage capped alot

[ionic crown]

and its still right to press Skull while it willovercap?

[leaden oracle]

for sure you dont hit that for the rage until exe

[ionic crown]

this feels super weird, returning from BFA Arms 😄

[leaden oracle]

during exe youll hit that if its up and you have less than 85 rage

[manic river]

oh 1.26 m overall

[hushed hornet]

Any good rotations site

[boreal quartz]

maxroll/wowhead

[twilit roost]

anyone seen the 20th anniversary update patch notes so far?

we're getting railed with no vaseline again

and FDK will still exist largely as is, nice....

#catchingstrays

[plain solstice]

Yeah it’s an unironic reroll angle

Gg!

[crystal sparrow]

Did they just buff Fury after nerfing it 3x?

[gusty oxide]

They buffed the underused spec, and still is not better than the current one

It's still behind RA

[plain solstice]

They nerfed fury .2% because the buffed talent is still worse and won’t be picked

[fast wharf]

yeah they did the same to arms, buffed colossus and nerfed slayer. net nerf

[teal fossil]

fury sustained cleave much better though with AM

lots of bladestorms flying around

[manic stirrup]

they are trying to buff furys st and make am a more relevant talent

[frigid cipher]

AM is huge in m+ for fury which is what most people were complaining about

[manic stirrup]

they just missed the mark

[teal fossil]

it also sort of solves the problem of too much burst

[manic stirrup]

yeah its a good idea, just off numbers wise

[tranquil sundial]

whats the nerf %?

[manic stirrup]

with the patch still weeks away id be surprised if they dont interate on these changes at all

[teal fossil]

#updates-midnight

[tranquil sundial]

Thx 🙂

[teal fossil]

if they just increased bt and rb by another 3-4%

then we are at the mark

[tranquil sundial]

surely these changes get deleted b4 patch

[primal hornet]

Is there a spread sheet, or resource for what mobs are priority we should be focusing down for our groups ? I'm trying to follow my nameplates, but my tank says I should be focusing down the highest HP mob while everyone else cleaves the lower HP stuff ? 😮

[potent fractal]

Why do they not fix demolish damnit.

[nova marsh]

Because nerfing us again is funnier

[twilit roost]

If your chasing damage then executing priority mobs is ideal, try to get rid of casters or mobs that give shields like the horsemen in boralus etc.

[nova marsh]

They're gonna kill slayer

[twilit roost]

As to a specific 3rd party list, I couldn't tell you

[potent fractal]

Having a hero talent that can be walked away from or feared or disoriented is so weak it doesn't make me feel colossus

[twilit roost]

That's what I'm afraid of, I despised fyralath on use. And demolish took the problems with that and somehow made it less consistent

[primal hornet]

Gotcha - It just feels like no matter what hes wanting me on the highest total HP mob in the pack doing ST while cleaving off it while everyone else focuses casters etc.

[tranquil sundial]

just jump into the direction the mob is going

[primal hornet]

Like he'd prefer me being on the guardians in the maze, and not the tenders etc.

[tranquil sundial]

press demo right after

[potent fractal]

True

[tranquil sundial]

u keep momentum

its not perfect but will be a savior to a good amount of missed casts

[nova marsh]

Blizz is gonna nerf bladestorm into df numbers

[twilit roost]

I'd say the tenders and shapers are the prio personally, heals and roots when the others make big puddles of death is not ideal, you want to get rid of that possibility first.

[nova marsh]

I didn't mind Fyr but I do mind this crap

[primal hornet]

Thats what I'm saying - I think hes just wanting me to try to get rid of the tank busters etc for him >.<

[nova marsh]

This feels like nerfing just because blizz feels like it

[twilit roost]

Just the idea of "missed casts" is unacceptable really, when almost no other hero talent has to deal with that

[nova marsh]

It dosent even set out to fix WHY colossus isn't keeping up

[tranquil sundial]

well dont worry, couple more nerfs and we all swap mains anyways

or uninstal

[twilit roost]

That's a group job, not down to one person unless you're boosting and doing mega dmg, faster the actual problem mobs die. Faster his tank busters will die, tell him to mitigate properly and deal with it 😆

[nova marsh]

Dude warrior has been nerfed in evrey balance update

This is ridiculous. We aren't even broken

Maybe fury was a lil bit but that arms is still getting hit. It makes no fucking sense

[near perch]

just remember with these patchnotes that the highest peak of arms was season 1 BFA with 8% and has been below 5 for more than 5 years lol

[tranquil sundial]

arms solid, fury has a real good niche, its too much

[nova marsh]

Meanwhile frost and ret have gotten one balance pass at most

[tranquil sundial]

Also whats worse than all of this... Warlock isnt top 3

[manic stirrup]

its been good outside of that though

[tranquil sundial]

Wtf blizzard buff wl

[manic stirrup]

it was pretty fucking good in dragonflight s2

[near perch]

really loved the stray bladestorm nerf before that so you dont even start thinking about playing slayer

[manic stirrup]

unfortunately everyone wanted a mage so didnt even consider other options

[twilit roost]

Fury has done the cardinal sin of wow dps, and exposeded mega burst aoe during heroic progression weeks. The nail that sticks out gets hammered, and we're just catching the strays because blizzard can't differentiate between fury and "warrior"

[nova marsh]

And it pisses me off

This is actual shameful balancing

[violet whale]

Agreed. This raid has been great for Fury to shine, just seems to have shined a bit too bright.

[nova marsh]

And why can't fury shine

Was it really that broken lol

[manic stirrup]

before the nerfs? yes

[twilit roost]

And also the shadow nerf to thunderous roar? Damage drop off after 5 targets? And they have the nerve to try gaslight us into believing it was previously 8, and not uncapped...

[manic stirrup]

after the nerfs" its still good but not unbelievably good

[nova marsh]

And what the fuck did arms do?

[tranquil sundial]

fucked blizzards wife

[nova marsh]

Blizz is just taking the piss at this point

[twilit roost]

That's the point, arms is only good for pure single target right now in raid, we execute among the best. But because fury went too hard on adds, it's death by association

[nova marsh]

And no other class is balanced like this

[violet whale]

I'm just hoping they look at Colossus and Mountain Thane along with the Slayer nerfs.

[nova marsh]

I can't recall a single time lock got nerfed because one spec shined bright

[twilit roost]

And because fury play slayer as mountain Thane is aids, they nerf slayer, and fuck whoever else wanted to enjoy that

[shadow ibex]

post on the forums till blizzard makes the bladestorms different

[nova marsh]

Or mage. Or hunter. Or dks.

[dusty depot]

Funny Blizzard

[twilit roost]

Meanwhile WW getting 20%/40% buffs

[tranquil sundial]

This is bait

[twilit roost]

This is overall, look at the dmg done to actual bosses

[tranquil sundial]

Bc wlogs disabled rashanan adds

[dusty depot]

Yeah, even less for fury and slightly better for arms

[twilit roost]

Fury out single targeted by aug? Let's nerf slayer

[manic stirrup]

what are u talking about lmao

u mean two of their absolutely fucking dogshit abilities

[nova marsh]

Gee maybe if blizz just buffed colossus and Thane and actually looked at the problem with them it'd be better

But no, kill it all

[untold pewter]

Does this opportunist nerf change the prio at all?

[tacit cedar]

Super sad to see nerfs again for the 9th week in a row

[plain solstice]

Yeah you’re gonna want to prio leveling another class

Really important

[untold pewter]

I ain't that weak sauce

Guess I'll wait for sim updates

[light dirge]

lmao

someone posted a photoshopped set of logs with fury warrior on the top and some facebook uncle working for the nerf / buff department took it seriously

now we getting driven into the dirt

[nova marsh]

Were fucked

This is absurd

[light dirge]

9 weeks in a row lmao

[rapid bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-pc-computing-old-man-windows-gif-14076315

Warrior dev

[ionic latch]

^

[nova marsh]

We don't have a dev lol

That's why arms is fucked

[cedar talon]

ravager or bladestorm for colossus

[terse osprey]

How yall liking arms so far in pve?

[nova marsh]

Slayer has a really good damage profile

Feels great. Arms in general is kinda nice atm

[light dirge]

no no, say its shit so we can get some buffs

[nova marsh]

Fuck that

They'll just nerf us again

I'm convinced by s3 of tww bladestorm will have the entire 70% buff from the beta removed

[light dirge]

lol just thinking of that invincible meme "look at what they have to do to mimic even a fraction of our doomer"

[terse osprey]

Is colossus viable in any content?

Or is it just Slayer for now?

[summer quartz]

It does pretty good in delves

at least from my experience.

I'm gonna try it in M+ tonight.

[terse osprey]

yea my main focus is Delves/raiding

M+ is a no go for me

[nova marsh]

Then slayer is the way to go for raids

Delves it's great in

[plain solstice]

Shit spec. All your damage is one ability and some bleeds. And despite that you somehow have the most buttons of any melee spec except maybe enhance.

And now it’s getting nerfed some more

[daring heron]

arms will continue to catch strays until fury is completely dead

sorry guys

[plain solstice]

Video up @daring heron ?

[terse osprey]

Well i'll continue to stay strong with Arms 🙂

[daring heron]

yessir

[plain solstice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/251211223012474880/1287846154947661926/9-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[prisma heart]

anyone know if u can transmitter prepull or does it get wiped on boss pull

[daring heron]

use it prepull

if orb, charge through it on pull
if circle, stand on circle 2 secs before pulltimer ends
if jump, jump twice, then jump again as you send cds

[prisma heart]

ty critcake 🙏

[primal hamlet]

Do you just yolo it during the fight?

[daring heron]

orb and circle always spawn at the front right of your character

so just use that to play around it

[primal hamlet]

Oh that's useful to know, I thought it just appeared anywhere and had trouble finding it

[daring heron]

i've managed to stand in circle even though i placed it inside of broodtwister's massive model

cause i'm just used to where it spawns

[minor gust]

Man I love coming home from work to see more nerfs

yippie

[shadow ibex]

from the same team still calling it warbringer

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5fecb5fa60488f2e470efd74/2x.gif

[plain solstice]

I just watched the video crit and yeah I can see what they’re trying to do but they’re so far off the mark. Like both of these specs need reworks or at least large talent changes. Fury has too many aoe burst abilities and its single target is crap. Why not remove odyns and give it something else?

[shadow ibex]

how about they can nerf us

when they know what warbringer and warbreaker are

until then not allowed

[plain solstice]

Arms I feel like there are so many rotational issues that ultimately “work” well enough but the play style feels like shit and the damage profile is hilariously stupid

The hero trees are thematically cool but functionally boring and two of them aren’t good

What are we doing here

[torpid jackal]

As a prot main who typically does fury offspec the fact that button mashing on arms sometimes yields me a 3mil execute and other times a 400k blows my mind

[plain solstice]

Yeah the button bloat on arms all in the service of making the abilities you actually want to press do any damage is insane

Horrific design

Here’s a tier set bonus that adds another modifier

Fuck you

[tacit cedar]

at this point tbh, NOT being touched for a patch is a buff

[grave mulch]

Why did they nerf fury x2 then buff it again???

[balmy kindle]

FuryST is pretty laughable now. Also PTR

[balmy kindle]

Lol arms is not that bad, if they made some key talents like battlelord baseline the spec will flow very well.

There's like unholy DK that has more buttons, needs more globals while the numbers are mediocre

[plain solstice]

Wow if the class was designed in a way different than it currently is it would flow really well

Anyway I’m glad you like it

[balmy kindle]

Well I have played worse specs so to me current arms is honestly pretty ok, but I am not happy how they are nuking fury for no reason

Nerf a spec that handles adds well because short CDs ?

[plain solstice]

Yeah I get it

And like yeah that sucks if other specs feel like shit but I’m not judging the fun level of one against another

[thick hamlet]

wait what does that mean

is the warbringer nerf actually a nerf to warbreaker but they don't know the class? say it ain't so

i thought they're nerfing the charge pvp talent

[plain solstice]

They don’t know the names of the abilities they’re changing

Is what he’s saying

[thick hamlet]

[balmy kindle]

Aka Devs don't play warrior

[shadow ibex]

sweet summer child

[iron spruce]

anyone using gilded crests to upgrade the duskthread craft? the amount of vers doesnt even increase with ilvl?

[thick hamlet]

honest reaction to this info

[safe parrot]

choice between tier helm and sacbrood?

[balmy kindle]

Sac since u can get tier from many sources

[safe parrot]

was thinking the same, the helm looked extra cute coz it came with avoidance...

[balmy kindle]

Pretty sure the more experienced guys here will take sac as well without hesitation

[safe parrot]

cool, thanks mang

[rapid bronze]

Maybe they’ll actually nerf warbringer accidentally and we will be fine

[edgy solstice]

is sac myth track?

then sac

[teal fossil]

depends on if either is mythic

you take the one on myth track

cuz the non myth track can be farmed

[boreal glade]

anyone got a weak aura for arms warrior 4set?

tryna track in execute

[plucky zenith]

oh boy warrior changes in the patch notes i hope they buff arms so i stop getting kicked from m+

https://tenor.com/view/confused-monkey-sad-monkey-gif-3854182210541933249

[subtle ravine]

I mean Colossus got marginally better, that's something! That's... a buff

I think...

[boreal glade]

minorly buffed btw

[soft zinc]

Cant believe Arms getting stray nerfs cuz of Fury

[balmy kindle]

Every melee dps is the same experience unless you have some op raid buff

Play tank or heal, never get kicked

[plucky zenith]

nah ill just continue to run m+ exclusively with guild ig

[safe parrot]

both hero track, im not much into mythic raiding...

[final dove]

why does blizzard hate us

[balmy kindle]

It's not an issue with arms spec, more of a wow issue

[winged gazelle]

Why purple main talking

[final dove]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN DUDE

[winged gazelle]

Ahahahahah

[final dove]

youre the worst

[soft zinc]

DH traitor?

[final dove]

No!

[soft zinc]

[final dove]

im just playing vdh for main ce team

and warrior in another mythic team

[soft zinc]

Playing DH

Main CE team

Main DH

[final dove]

need dh buff homie

I cant believe im having to explain myself

@winged gazelle this is your fault I hate you

[safe parrot]

hero

[shadow ibex]

if demo is gonna stop my auto attacks i need it to gen rage

[edgy solstice]

just buff it by 15% instead

[balmy kindle]

Why do people get worked up on PTR notes

[velvet canyon]

I cant figure it out some only 609 gearscore but I average like 640k dps with arms and average 710k dps as fury. I tried hekilis rotation and icy veins. Anyone know a better rotation to run then those two?

[wanton pumice]

Check wowhead guide or maxroll guide for ability priority. Understand how to send your cooldowns properly depending on the dungeon and pull size. If your tank pulls very slow and small your overall is likely to be low. Don’t rely on hekili outside of hitting a target dummy to learn rotation/builds because it will probably cause deaths since it might be taking your attention away from mechanics.

Along with wowhead/maxroll, make sure you are running the correct build. If you are running subpar talents compared to other builds you could be gimping yourself

[teal fossil]

Rely on hekili

Never deviate

[minor gust]

Man vs machine

[velvet canyon]

I usually dont use hekili but with how much of a deficit there is between fury for me I was trying anything to figure it out lol

[sage bison]

tried using hekili but it never tells me to use SD procs, is that normal or bugged?

[teal fossil]

it should

probably something else were higher prio

[slow saddle]

Buff ms!

[unique bridge]

450k off the enhance sham in raid

[vale gorge]

They really want every melee to play RET

[half junco]

Ret is the better Arms warrior

[slow saddle]

Has been for a while

Does recemt tuning mean col is the play in keys when patch hits?

[misty bridge]

Col always has been the play

[slow saddle]

Dno ive been slaying🤣😅

[soft dew]

Ret is stupid in M+

[slow saddle]

Yup

Burst, sustain everything😅

[regal veldt]

is arms considered really good in raid?

i see its doing high boss dps but most people bring fury

[slow saddle]

u play both

arms on st

fury on pad bosses

[minor kraken]

Would be nice to know the dmg difference between Arms Slayer vs. Colossus in m+

[slow saddle]

in M+ ST dmg yes

aoe idc

what kind of spec do we run as col in keys ( with ST focus ) ;D i saw a guy posting it a while ago

[gusty oxide]

I wonder what we did to blizzard, to be doomed to the same fate each expac

[vital summit]

we exist

[vapid bay]

Is there a reason behind the constant nerfs?

I dont see us outperforming, this is overkill

[plush belfry]

Getting punished for raid fight design really

[vital summit]

Just blizzard not knowing arms exists

[plush belfry]

(not Arms specifically, just catching fury strays)

[vital summit]

Immagine nerfing a spec so hard, that other spec feels the nerfs too

[vapid bay]

But fury is already bottom on the boss logs lmao

[vital summit]

So they are best at being the worst?

Nerf them even more!

[vapid bay]

Haha

[balmy kindle]

Why people getting worked up on PTR notes

Won't work myself up until they actually release actual patch notes

[arctic hearth]

Chad

[balmy kindle]

Like if people actually believe FDK is not gonna get chopped into a breath only spec again they haven't played DK

Anytime obliteration is actually strong, it's an ape spec that will get nerf bats

Same for ret

Just gonna chill on the PTR doom saying and wait for actual patch notes

[ornate mountain]

arms actually just catching massive backshots

from fury nerfs

everytime lol

[vernal crypt]

Ayo?

[limpid hornet]

Must be funny getting paid for not knowing what you're doing, I might apply at Blizzard

[royal escarp]

Some help need it here. I always play arm. When i start dps on dummy i got the 1m dps and then it slowly down to 750k and stabilise there i have 613 ilvl. I do well my cycle. Any tips plz

[plucky fern]

ignore numbers on target dummy it has nothing to do with realistic dps

[balmy kindle]

Slayer ?

[swift flame]

sim target dummy

and see how you compare

you dont get a proper execute window on a target dummy and that is arms biggest strength

[balmy kindle]

Seconded on simming

Fat executes are arms niche

[royal escarp]

Yes sir slayer ST

[balmy kindle]

Like some of the comments said, try simming yourself cause on dummies u dont get a execute window

Alot of our damage in ST is from stacking juggernaut to the wazoo and landing fat executes

[royal escarp]

But proc of excute is not somthing stable

[balmy kindle]

Oh if you mean pre execute it is quite rng, but it's one of reasons why slayer favours a ton of haste

Like iirc there was discussion on spacing out executes to maintain juggernaut buff as long as possible here pre execute

[astral yarrow]

Spacing out executes to keep juggernaut stacked is the way to play it

Slayer is also much less haste thirsty than colossus is because of the boatload of execute procs and high priority of opportunist OP procs

[balmy kindle]

Srs, haste Sims badly for my Colo lol while haste Sims alot more for me on slayer

Maybe it's just toon dependent

[astral yarrow]

Dropped a 15 jugg stack at 37% on kyveza yesterday

[balmy kindle]

[astral yarrow]

[scarlet spade]

Guys, then now the singletarget juggernauts? with t4 and multi?

[balmy kindle]

Yes ST juggernaut is the way

[royal escarp]

because it is Tyranic week i am wrong ??

[royal escarp]

Hiw mush haste do you have

[slow saddle]

make Juggernaut last 1min

!

now we have unlimited huge executes in M+ and are rdy to slap at 35%

😄

[balmy kindle]

20% haste 26% crit 15% mastery and 10% vert now

[balmy kindle]

ST specialist

[slow saddle]

❤️

id love it

[balmy kindle]

Jokes aside it's a valid strat to run since everyone opts for aoe

[boreal quartz]

What's the tech to not dropped jugg on first during soak

Just greed with gate or what

[astral talon]

ngl

[astral yarrow]

You leap out late

[astral talon]

i never paid attention to jugg

i guess i should have lol

[boreal quartz]

Jugg rlly rlly matters

I had an 11 drop on rashnan drop at 36%

[astral talon]

i paid more attention to get bs cd down so i can do with every avatar

so, twice

i once managed 3 O_O

one for every CS

[astral yarrow]

I giga scuffed rashanan yesterday dropping jugg twice on position switch xD

[boreal quartz]

That boss dying slow is so incredibly tilting for uptime

[astral yarrow]

Just kill it before 4 posish

[bronze wharf]

what do you drop to get jugg?

in m+ case

[velvet latch]

slayer or collo ?

[ebon garden]

hey guys i am looking for a weak aura for sudden death proc, i can do it, but i dont find a way to make it shine when at 2 stack, did you know where i can find one or share the code with me ?

[quick vale]

as in you already have a WA for it and just want to make it shine, or have nothing?

[astral talon]

imma join the question

but one to make it shiny

i already have my WA

[quick vale]

I use Quazii's WA and just modified the SD one in there to be perma-visible and shine at 2 stacks

[ebon garden]

i already got the icon poping, but i can only make always shine or not at all, i want it to shine only when at 2 stack so i know i should cast it

[quick vale]

conditions -> stacks = 2 -> set your effect below it

[ebon garden]

i look now

[bronze wharf]

slayer?

i dont think colo makes any sense with jugg?

[ebon garden]

i made the update, i'll try it now, thanks a lot

[spark mango]

guys does dpsing rashanan in dawnbreaker when its in firsst phase has any effect? or is it completly useless and time gated

[bronze wharf]

its gated for amount of thrown barrels

you throw 6, boss go away

[ebon garden]

does not work actually

[spark mango]

but dps has no effect on boss fight what so ever?

[bronze wharf]

yeah, unless idk something

[quick vale]

I'm in raid but I can take a look in about 45 minutes

[velvet latch]

oh true misread, u can drop a point of deft experience

you can check on murlok io what peoples are taking

[ebon garden]

i try to make it push a sound on two stac and it work (car klaxon)

so the trigger is good

[royal escarp]

Didn't understand

You use exu only in 2stack of sudden death ?

[quick vale]

He wants his WA to alert him when he has two stacks

[royal escarp]

Ahhh ok

[icy mulch]

Just noticed this, is there a talent I'm missing that makes MS refresh rend or is that a typo and suppose to be Deep wounds?

[quick vale]

MS refreshes rend in Execute

with BL

[icy mulch]

Ah, below 35% health. Check.

Frees the global for execute.

[boreal quartz]

@latent moss

gna try this in a NW or any free key

[latent moss]

as colossus

replace bi with wb

[boreal quartz]

yes

[latent moss]

and it will fuck

[boreal quartz]

i mean this is st cope build

but for NW ye its wb

[trim elk]

Hey, I am looking for a site where I could analyze my logs and encouter and compate with other logs. Its not wow analyzer. I used it like a yesr ago but now I switched to arms and forgot site name. Do you have anything in mind while reading this ? 😄

[boreal quartz]

bro i havent played blord in ages

wowanalzyer?

oh uh

[trim elk]

A site where you paste your logs and someone else logs and you could compare skill/cd/consumable usage

Second by second in encounter

Yeah its not analyzer 😄

I just forgot the site name eh

Wonder if someone here use it

[astral talon]

no merciless

hmm

[rain shell]

I neep elp boys, I see a lot of guides including wowhead running cleave and merciless bonegrinder on arms aoe spec, but all the arms warriors on murlok.io dont run those talents, what are you guys doing in dungeon content?

[trim elk]

Turn out it was wow analyzer and I was a moron

Maybe still am

But problem solved

[boreal quartz]

idk im just rying shit

[velvet latch]

i tried gellyfisk colo build they are pretty solid

[pallid pawn]

This question has been probably already asked, but can Shattering Throw or Wrecking Throw do damage to the void embassary in keystones?

[distant yarrow]

It’s an absorb shield, not an invuln so probably

Wrecking Throw

Or you can just bring a monk to ToD every one

[hardy olive]

Why r we nerfed guys

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

[slow saddle]

Arms ST to good app

[vital summit]

Because Fury was doing worst single target DPS in game

[slow saddle]

also when hero talents shares 2 specs

u get FUCKED

which is why they should just buff MS

until collosus is bis for arms in st as well

much easier to tune 😄

[vital summit]

make demolish 100% crit chance and increase damage based on crit chance and it will be gucci

So basically Arms got nerfed because fury was padding damage on add fights and then they decided to increase Fury ST damage by nerfing it's ST damage

[zealous hazel]

whats the difference between colossus smash and warbreaker?

is colossus smash ST?

[vital summit]

CS is single target (2 with Sweeping strikes) and warbreaker is AoE

[ebon marten]

demolish cleaves on the last hit

oh, nevermind, thought you mean the Hero talent

[latent moss]

demolish cleaves on first two

not last

last is aoe

[ebon marten]

🤔 Oh, than im sorry for that, thought it was the last one

[plush hill]

No no no, they just nerfing aoe burst through st and hero talents:)

[vital summit]

demolish cleaves first 2 hits and completly misses everything in the last

[boreal quartz]

doesnt feel very diff

st is still just alright

[latent moss]

idk

it feels better to me al ot

[frosty ingot]

we really have to hit rend in the single target build….??

[raw dagger]

yes friend

[thick tartan]

i See to improve that Arms needs to do worst single target. Blizzard devs are smart

[vital summit]

Yes and when it does, they buff ST damage by 2% and nerf ST damage by 2,2%... and also nerf Fury damage by 2,9%

[misty yew]

wowhead m+ build updated?

it shows slayer

nvm I'll just look at pins

[wild kernel]

Is there an upside at all for taking colossus to raid?

Other than haha demolish and less damage

[misty yew]

What do you drop in the warrior tree to enable colossus for the shockwave knock up?

Struggling to pick shockwave over other talents

[velvet latch]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBAOVVEFVRFlUUFQFQCEFEVVVUBB

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBANVVEFVRFlQkVQFCEFEVVVUBB

@misty yew

[raw dagger]

battlelord? is this new?

[velvet latch]

for st prupose i guess

[tranquil sundial]

what trinkets yall using in m+ this week?

[misty yew]

Thought on this being full aoe build?

[halcyon valve]

100% demolish crit would make me go crazy

[tranquil sundial]

need to run bonegrinder

and ravager

for colossus

[halcyon valve]

yep

[livid cloak]

You want ravager, unhinged, and bonegrinder

For colossus aoe

[tranquil sundial]

that talent to the right of rend

[misty yew]

k

[livid cloak]

Drop the talent above dreadnought

[tranquil sundial]

i would trade that in

and the crit dmg and rage refund on execute

critical thinking it is i think?

[halcyon valve]

would personally not take storm of swords, really doesnt help much

[livid cloak]

Yes

Drop storm of swords

Take executioner precision

[tranquil sundial]

i would drop it for battlelord

otherwise you take 1 from deft mastery for massacre

running eb without massacre isnt great

[misty yew]

should slap tbh

[tranquil sundial]

yee

[misty yew]

Is there empty globals sometimes with no slam / ww these days?

I panic and just press TC

but even that is on CD sometimes

When cleave isn't available

[velvet latch]

press slam

better than pressing cleave in st

[balmy cradle]

do you not run out of rage in single target without skullsplitter?

[misty yew]

I'm not fussed about ST in M+

Going full AoE mode

Not a fan of SkS in M+ really

[balmy cradle]

is sudden death even good in aoe then?

doesnt seem that crazy

[misty yew]

i took it out and put in deft

[balmy swallow]

Is it just me or with this week's affix and the CD reduction Colossus feels nice, seems like its more often aligned with CS

[normal marsh]

I play arms as a prio target and boss boyo in keys, every other spec in the game can blast aoe better than us pretty much so I let them focus their builds on that and then do like 20-30% more than them on ST

Like, if I wanted to aoe dumpster as arms I'd click the change spec button to fury

[nova marsh]

Yeah most other specs just destroy us in aoe

[balmy swallow]

what build/hero talents you using for that?

[normal marsh]

Just like full jugg, drop bleed dam to pick up cleave talents

[rain shell]

well that makes a surprising amount of sense

[mossy gazelle]

My theory is this - this is what Bliz dev want. They let Ret pally and Frost DK go under radar so they stay competitive while let dps Warrior spec die to thin out their number maybe

[balmy swallow]

same jugg as S3 DF?

or got a pic of your talents?

[normal marsh]

I doubt its much different to the wowhead build

It's not like we have an insane amount of flexibility haha

[balmy swallow]

oh i didnt even see they added the jug build on wowhead

last I checked was start of the xpac xd

[velvet latch]

[fickle lotus]

I macroed Ava and 1.5min Trinket and somehow they desync sometimes in M+. What could be the Reason ?

[quartz gate]

affix

👍

[fickle lotus]

Aaaahh

right

Fuck it

[quartz gate]

why does ret get mentioned so much here out of interest

frost dk is super ahead of them too no?

[velvet latch]

because shine bright like diamond

[quartz gate]

ret doesn't need nerfs because of their bozo warrior tuning imo

[thick hamlet]

what is happening here?

same bracer, same trinkets, but different trinket slot gives extra dps?

[velvet latch]

send link

[thick hamlet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w4wahXCEatTCZR7PncZBSA

[mortal rivet]

It’s what trinket is used first

[thick hamlet]

also double on-use is best?

[quartz gate]

trinket1/2 matters in the apl

[mortal rivet]

They say in their apl that 1 is used before 2

So for some trinkets lining up with CDs is stronger etc

[boreal quartz]

It uses slot 13 first

[quartz gate]

transmitter is an odd one though as i think its got its own line to use before avatar - but i wouldn't worry about it anyway

[thick hamlet]

what's the deal then

this is looking like a real pain in the ass

[boreal quartz]

The deal is the trinket slot swap

[quartz gate]

well its within margin of error anyway

[thick hamlet]

gotta aim the gear-a-rang behind the boss, and it has varying cooldown, and transmitter is STD to deal with sometimes

is this really best in a real fight?

[quartz gate]

its 0.0% difference

[thick hamlet]

i mean the two on-use setup

[quartz gate]

the apl is forcing transmitter first, your 593 arakara is too low ilvl to compete with a 619

[boreal quartz]

It is what it is

[thick hamlet]

only by like 5k dps

i think in a real fight when taking usability into account, the 597 arakara probably still outperforms it

[quartz gate]

possibly yes

if you are causing transmitter to miss the cd window, or not using the boomerang on cd enough, the low arakara would be better

[thick hamlet]

thanks amigos

[still fox]

is the affix changed? today

[native dawn]

Anyone beat ?? Zekvir yet?

615 ilvl and struggling.

The random 3m hits always send me to the shadow realm because they always seem to happen right when I get spittle on me lol

[bleak cradle]

I had it at 20% and missed my reflect

At 611

Next time!

[strong dome]

Boy I love Race Changing to KT just to have all of my impactful abilities make the miss noise on a hit

Then just to have blizz say sorry but there’s nothing we can do about it all you can do is race change to a different race 10/10

[unique bridge]

took me 2 hours of straight attempts but got it by rolling my face around my keyboard abusing brann and his entire bloodline for potion drops

[native dawn]

He needs more abuse for not pumping those potions. Healer, pffft.

[fickle lotus]

How is Col overall in M+ in comparison to Slayer ?

[trim elk]

Anyone can recommend good arms war ui?

A simple one, just with procs/stacks

[fickle lotus]

This is Quazii

Just WA without Elvui

[thick hamlet]

i might swap to quazii too, luxthos is missing too many things

[trim elk]

I will try it, looks smooth

thx

[mortal rivet]

What is Luxthos missing?

[smoky kayak]

it actually shouldn't, but transmitter has been doing some odd things; it's on my to-do list to clean up

also transmitter is the devil, and I wouldn't recommend playing with it anyway unless you love stupid mid-rotation minigames and hate yourself

[noble oxide]

I fucking hate it

[trim elk]

try to find platfrom

on council

xD

with all the webs and other shit

[thick hamlet]

doesn't show trinkets, lethal blows, or imminent demise

[mortal rivet]

Interesting. Does quazii’s WA require the elvui setup to work?

[smoky kayak]

tbf you don't really need to track imminent demise

[manic river]

Like?

[manic river]

oh

[quartz gate]

it does in instances where they are the same type right, say you had both skadyns and mark equipped for some odd reason

[thick hamlet]

i don't like wasting unrelenting onslaught's cooldown reduction while already on 3 stack, and opt to maybe get the last 5 sec CD off through anger management

small, but gives me peace of mind

[quartz gate]

i really don't mind the minigame of the transmitter, super non-offensive to me

[river ridge]

I've found it solid. Single Target leaves a bit to be desired but it has really good AoE sustain and solid AoE burst.

[smoky kayak]

Sure, but you're wasting Marked for Execution damage due to overcapped procs

[thick hamlet]

only if marked for execution is at 3 stacks, ya?

it really isn't a big bonus, but like i said it's mostly peace of mind

[manic river]

Are we a joke to Blizz?

We get nerfed MORE on Slayer than fury?

And you give fury buffs to other skills to compesate for the nerfs, meanwhile arms get 0

[sharp wyvern]

collosus got buffs

[manic river]

Yeah Colosus

A little bit

[minor kraken]

is colossus now good in keys?

[manic river]

But not the rest of our regular pack

[manic river]

It has been for the past week

[sharp wyvern]

collosus is also realy fun in m+

[manic river]

I would like some little buffs to our regular arms skills too

[minor kraken]

rly?! cuz I was still playing slayer especially since it's tyrannical week

[manic river]

Yeah well for tyrannical maybe the difference is small because Colo still doesn't have good st

[sharp wyvern]

i mean tyranicall/fortified weeks arent realy a thing anymore

[minor kraken]

but ur saying it's blasting on fort weeks

[manic river]

If you don't play high keys it is significant

Last week, and yeah a lot of people is going colo now in M+

Your st damage is middle of the road but your overall with adds is big

[boreal quartz]

Colo rn is fine too

I tried a funny version with blord and its kinda slapping

[manic river]

Is it?

[boreal quartz]

It's not slayer st slapping

But for an intermediate

It's doing decently well

I generally win in st in keys

But also outgear most pugs...

[minor kraken]

send me ur build phil

[boreal quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1291364029054451762/2CB207C7-BB06-41C8-98A4-D6EEC008842B.png?ex=66ffd3f8&is=66fe8278&hm=0bf09ecec0376a989fe65a1ad0ab5a11ca2f263b2028e0003399e5d0ddb16de6&

Cant take credit idk if this isnt just the one gelly ran

But it's fun

You can drop mass/EP for stuff i think

Just experiment

[fast wharf]

+50% cleave dmg during ravager feels so good though

[neon ocean]

Why is arms slayer catching strays from fury nerfs

[boreal quartz]

I mean u can rotate stuff around

I dont rlly like mbg

[fervent stream]

Is Colossus a meme build like Thane is?

[boreal quartz]

No it's legit

Does big dam

[fervent stream]

QQ wish thane could do the same for fury haha

[teal fossil]

Thane has the same problem

As collosus

You do a lot less st for only a bit more aoe

Thane is def not unviable in keys

[finite mantle]

that’s crazy fills the goat

[thick hamlet]

i've found colossus do more ST than slayer if you're not specced into AoE as slayer

as in

if you're going full aoe build, colossus helps with ST more in my experience

[thick hamlet]

arms will survive brother. catching strays is what gets me though

[plain hollow]

anyone playing with wrecking throw for new affix? is it worth?

[smoky kayak]

Fury doesn't have any ST left to nerf 😭

[lethal acorn]

Immortal Spelunker with Arms Colossus at ilvl 614 (Fungal Folly with Explorer's Competition up I believe is the easiest one for this spec, I went pure single target build)

Brann was healer with Earthmother and Amorphous relics

[wanton sierra]

fury nerfs is like music to my ears xD

[flat willow]

why, all fury nerfs affect arms

[smoky kayak]

Maybe Arms is overperforming and its nerfs are affecting Fury!

[lethal acorn]

I only play Arms, so no

[flat willow]

what

It doesn't matter if you play only arms

[lethal acorn]

How?

[flat willow]

every nerf so far has affected both specs, bladestorm nerf affected both specs, slayer nerf next patch affect both specs

[lethal acorn]

Oh

I play Colossus

So it doesn't affect me

[flat willow]

colossus

[lethal acorn]

Lucky me

[lethal acorn]

It's fun!

[flat willow]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-lies-liar-gif-18627726

[lethal acorn]

[plucky zenith]

would you say colossus is now better than slayer in m+?

[lethal acorn]

For Fortified, yes

For Tyrannical maaaaybe

I have about 2100io so take that with a grain of salt

[boreal quartz]

they do diff shit

so both have merit

[halcyon hull]

how beneficial is that point in Battelord over going 2/2 in Bloodborne?

is that for the ST gains?

[neon niche]

sim

[boreal quartz]

the idea is st ye

feelcrafted tho

[halcyon hull]

Gotcha

[shadow ibex]

Colossus has a style meter

So it's better than slayer

[neon niche]

slayer arms = normie
colossus arms = swag

[shadow ibex]

You ever pull off an s rank combo

[manic river]

So its the Colo build with EP and Battlelrd doing good overall?

I read there was also a change with one of the hero talents for bleeds ins't it?

[fickle lotus]

Is there a way how to play COL in M+, wanna try it and do it right, right from the start

Specific ramp or so ?

[manic river]

Have you looked the guides and rotations on Wowhead or Maxroll for example?

[neon niche]

doesnt change much from slayer

use demolish on cd and with sweepin strikes

[manic river]

#dps-faq

[neon niche]

use ravager for rage gains and merciless bone grinder

[fickle lotus]

Ok

[fringe moon]

what's the weekly quest this week?

[livid cloak]

if you're starting at 0 stacks of demolish with all cd's available, you can get to 10 stacks really quickly with cleave and SS mortal strikes during ravager, usually quick enough to still get demolish off in your CS/WB window. I think the play is to delay Demolish long enough in your initial CS/WB to build enough stacks, while still landing all 3 hits in the debuff

[livid cloak]

delves

[fringe moon]

what's the reward supposed to be?

[livid cloak]

idk a chest

that you open with random stuff in it

presumably half a spark, and some renown, a key, and gold like every week?

[fringe moon]

weird...I thought the chest was supposed to drop a normal raid item

nvm...misread the quest

[fresh spire]

arms catching strays while fury gets AM back

outrage

(at least we don't press raging blow at the speed of light over and over)

[shadow ibex]

Buff colossus st plz

[fresh spire]

just been digging into AM fury a little past few hours

you guys complained about slamming so much

you have yet to see pain

jumpscare

[finite mantle]

Raging blow arms hoooooly

[fresh spire]

JUMPSCARE

OOOOO

[vapid bay]

Delete that shit

[hazy flower]

@manic stirrup

worm is 3 times easier

lmaoo

we got to 12% in 3 pulls

[manic stirrup]

somehow ppl still missed eggs with 8 seconds

idk man

happens to the best of us ig

[fierce heart]

Hey guys I noticed the following today: I have Bloodletting, and for some reason it only applies rend from Mortal Strike at 20% hp or less. Was there some hotfix, or it's bugged?

The talent still reads 35% in game

[drowsy wind]

colossus gets a choice node buffed that no one ever runs, cool 😄

[fresh spire]

if it makes you feel any better for slayer in arms Cyclone is the only choice

brutal just dont work

[drowsy wind]

getting the higher dps in all content choice node nerfed does not make me feel better

[rapid bronze]

colossus is great in m+ but the standard build right now is a lot of aoe but falls hard on bosses in my experience

and you're doing twice the work to get a fraction of a ret paladin's dps

[jolly goblet]

which stats i should focus on? crit/haste?

[ripe bear]

[manic stirrup]

just have to know what talents to pick

[fickle lotus]

Thank you !

[shadow ibex]

Give colossus frontal MS

[astral talon]

so, what other embelish item should i get if i have weapon?

[plucky zenith]

wrists and back

sim em

[fickle lotus]

Do we hold Demolish for CS ?

In M+

[errant zinc]

can anyone recommend a good youtuber to watch for warrior guides that are up to date?

[unborn canyon]

make colossus interact with avatar pls god, the ability even says "become a colossus", ahhhhhhhhhhh

[manic river]

This

[plucky zenith]

nah just throw it on cd i think

unless theres like a few seconds between

[manic river]

Normally we just throw the first unbuffed demo right away and from there it will come back with different levels of stacks on next pulls

(Unless your group can't move fast to the next part and the buff expires )

[unborn canyon]

i love relying on tanks pulling fast to do damage

[manic river]

I mean it doesn't happens that much but you know, sometimes the group regroups for something or whatever or you have a longer segment walking

[unborn canyon]

buff should just stay up permanently like how boomies thing with spending their astral power did

like, it just stayed(no idea if they still have it) around forever with their stacks

[shadow ibex]

Haha,
No

[manic stirrup]

video guides go out of date quickly

[errant zinc]

any other trusty resources then? i dont know any really good warrs to teach me

[fair topaz]

Avatar should instantly grant 10 stacks of colossal might so we can pop off on pull

[manic stirrup]

the written wowhead icyveins and maxroll guides are all good

[unborn canyon]

ye

it wouldnt even be broken

[errant zinc]

tyty ❤️

[plucky zenith]

need to update the builds tho i think

[errant zinc]

ye im looking at logs too to compare

[manic stirrup]

what builds

[plucky zenith]

talent builds

[shadow ibex]

If you play colossus you have to cook your own

For max style points

[boreal quartz]

glad i went slayer

[hazy flower]

Show 2nd boss l bozo

Pugs baiting charges to mid

[boreal quartz]

was dire

[hazy flower]

Yeah

[boreal quartz]

but i also killed myseflf

[hazy flower]

1m on 2t vs 1.4 on st

Kekw

[boreal quartz]

its not even 2t

its just tilting

[fickle lotus]

Its impossible to Time +9 or 10 Mists in Pugs

IMPOSSIBLE

!

Also Col is cool

[native dawn]

Anyone run Arms on Heroic Queen? If so, what kind of build you go with?

[edgy solstice]

ya city is a slayer key

not for long tho

[shadow ibex]

Fuck these nerfs

[arctic hearth]

Whats your ilvl and wep @boreal quartz

[cunning ice]

Roughly what stat %'s do you want as arms? like Crit/Haste/Mast

[shadow ibex]

As many

As there are stars in the sky

[manic stirrup]

there isnt really numbers to shoot for but haste is your best stat as slayer by a decent margin

[boreal quartz]

622 636

[edgy solstice]

crafted wep scum

[cunning ice]

so haste/crit/vers/mast in that order basically?

[manic stirrup]

622 yikes

[boreal quartz]

ikr

[manic stirrup]

my character has always wanted more mastery than vers

[boreal quartz]

ive been lazy

[cunning ice]

hmm mkay

[boreal quartz]

if i send crests im 625

but thats more keys to do

[edgy solstice]

how many drops from mythic raid tho

im 621 still but got nada from mythic

[boreal quartz]

zero

[shadow ibex]

But yes we should get max demo stacks when using avatar insta

[unborn canyon]

ye

wouldnt be op

[long fable]

So im looking to do alot of delves is fury or arms preffered here? I find both equally fun but I wouldnt mind only focusing on one weapon lol

[lean geode]

Prot

[weak lion]

In the sweeping strikes period if you have 4+ mobs should you always hit cleave?

[balmy cradle]

I believe so unless you want to prioritize a target

[boreal quartz]

cleave even on 2 as it casts a slam too

[edgy solstice]

^

[balmy cradle]

which talent makes it do that?

[edgy solstice]

fervor

[neon niche]

ms prio targets over cleave

if u wanna just pump n pad hit cleave cause in the end details is all that matters to flex on kids

[edgy solstice]

ms hits just as hard as slam anyway without the 27 setup buffs for it

[summer elbow]

Hi how is arms atm for m+? I like big numbers execute.. How is mass aoe and st?

Thanks

[shadow ibex]

Colossus is there to aoe

Wtf is a priority wtf is a boss

[edgy solstice]

pretty good sustained aoe

[shadow ibex]

We go into a pull with 14 stacks of CD and WB ready and max demo stacks

[astral talon]

We go in

Pretend we know whats going on

OOOH SHINY SKILL ON MY BARS

Press

Yaaaay damage

[shadow ibex]

Honestly if you not pulling agro off the thing you targeting

Build better CD stacks

I end up tanking casters in grim batol like every other pull

[summer elbow]

So colossus is the way to go?

[astral talon]

Both are good

Collosus can pull better numbers

But lower dmg on most bosses

[summer elbow]

And cleave i believe

[astral talon]

You mean like 2 boss cleave?

Stuff like twins in stonevault?

[edgy solstice]

slayer is better for 2-3 targets for sure. maybe 4

it's why i still run jugg in grimmy b or city

but another slayer nerf inc, tiny colo buff + tanks getting more gear and learning to pull more are all gains for Colo

[summer elbow]

Like the 2 mobs in the bridge in NW before the second boss

[native dawn]

Are y’all running patchwerk, dslice, or something else when checking queen sims?

[astral talon]

I felt like I did more dmg on those with colossus

I send my shit all the time

[summer elbow]

Can u share some overalls

?

[edgy solstice]

depends on key level too ofc

slayer can't build stacks on anything in lower keys

[astral talon]

Doubt id have any saved

[drowsy wind]

on slayer im getting about 1.0~1.2m (maybe 1.3m if im lucky) overall, but the most important thing is if theres a ret pally in my group not letting me ramp up

[vast hinge]

On colossus I feel like I’m doing so much damage

Numbers popping everywhere

Things lining up with cds for a big smash

Then I look at details

[wary raft]

slayer feels a lot better the higher u go

[vast hinge]

I’m barely above tank

And the fdk is doing double my damage

[wary raft]

just did 11AK where I played like shit and did 1.42m overall

[drowsy wind]

what was your group's lineup?

[wary raft]

gdru, ww monk, me, dev, hpal

the route determines overall more than anything tho

we had a few mishaps tank dying at the end on a cpl packs I died on last boss

[drowsy wind]

colossus feels so terrible on that last boss. the swirlies land too fast for it lol

[wary raft]

that boss makes me want to throw my monitor across the room

[drowsy wind]

are you heroic leaping the suck?

[unborn creek]

I have Raiding related question. Silken court bosses have few times they put shield on them self that need to be broken. Is it worth to talent in to "wrecking throw" to help get shield down a little bit faster? or is not worth at all?

[summer elbow]

Why pally dont let u ramp?

[drowsy wind]

theyre burst aoe is instant (unlike mine) and they have it for the beginning of every pull

[vast hinge]

I leap that shit then get dragged in again

I don’t get the timing

[edgy solstice]

ara last boss?

[drowsy wind]

theres about 3 sucks, one weak, one strong then a plop.

jump after the plop

[edgy solstice]

you leap into a root

kick the add when the cast ends

charge back in

you can leap after the forced suck too but you risk it to save one gcd

[drowsy wind]

nah it makes the fight easier for your team if you dont take the pools tho

[edgy solstice]

unless everyone is fucking the mech up, you get extra anyway

[fathom shoal]

Ya just leap to open space. Just time the leap or u dead

[drowsy wind]

i highly suggest learning the timing on prot at a low key lvl, you can mess up and still easily live

[limpid geode]

You can leap it when <1s left, unless boss is hasted.

[hexed snow]

Guild asks me to do Arms ST for raiding... I am shy to ask but anyone got a good opener macro for ST?

For fury I'd have a simple, Recklessness plus avatar plus roar and trinkets

[nova marsh]

Just press the buttons

Also arms gas a lot of GCDs for its opener so I dunno if it'd work

[shadow ibex]

@edgy solstice imagine if we had a 4 target council fight this tier

i guess its a good thing we dont

colossus would get slapped with an aoe nerf for being good in raid

[nova marsh]

It's okay blizz I'd gonna murder slayer till colossus and Thane are meta by a large margin

They're coming for that 70% bs buff.

[rancid willow]

They should just remove hero talents completely.

[nova marsh]

Why

[inner wasp]

so in raid st spec

[rancid willow]

make them 100% cosmetic

[inner wasp]

which im using on every fight

[rancid willow]

sarcasm.

[nova marsh]

Oh lol

[inner wasp]

do i even bother pressing rend on trash/adds

just to apply it to 1 or 2 things

[nova marsh]

Fuck trash

Just afk trash

[inner wasp]

true

what abt ads

[nova marsh]

That yeah

[inner wasp]

like the crabs in 1st boss

[nova marsh]

Rend on alls is a good idea

[inner wasp]

i press rend, its already half dead

gg

[manic stirrup]

talent thunderclap

[inner wasp]

what do i drop a point in for it

[manic stirrup]

pain and gain and movement speed

actully can drop shockwave for pain and gain

if u want

[inner wasp]

oh why tf we take shockwave

for parasites in broodtwister?

[nova marsh]

Required for pathing

[noble oxide]

I take showers

[nova marsh]

You're a warrior player no you don't

[arctic iris]

showers of blood

[edgy solstice]

[shadow ibex]

it'd be so nerfed man

war only allowed to be good in m+ as soon as brown appears in raid

[dry frost]

Is fury worth playing over arms with arms gear on Myth brood?

[shadow ibex]

If you need adds dead

If you have a bunch of aoe and another war already you can probably slam arms

[hazy flower]

yes

[dry frost]

I feel like my mastery is a little less than ideal but

[hazy flower]

doesnt matter

well u can gear for fury if you want since brood will prob take u a while and can always recraft

but generally

it doesnt rly matter

[shadow ibex]

recraft weap if feel that strongly

[hazy flower]

esp now that hp has been nerfed significantly, u dont rly need to optimize st aka fury is even stronger since adds + egg breaks + kicks are the only 3 things that can actually wipe u

[inner wasp]

my no buffs sims say 800k dps on target dummy but im barely holding 700k

might be cooked

[teal fossil]

Hekili time

[shadow ibex]

name checks out

[terse plume]

so finally hit the bosses where Im playing arms instead of fury for mythic, is arms middling till execute phase on the meters

Im not familar with Twws damage profile for the spec yet lol

[inner wasp]

"brez fruiter" the most questionable shot my raid lead made that fight