that's not how castsequence macros work, it will go through the sequence then reset
#arms
smoky kayak
so it'll cast TC, then Slam, then reset to TC; after 5s it will reset to TC regardless
there's no good way to do what you want to, although that's also not a great macro anyway since you primarily use Slam in ST and only use TC in MT
quick edge
Yeah pretty much
wanton sierra
i need an miracle xD
half vine
Without adding to the panic from wowhead post, is the dooming of DPS warriors warranted currently? do we really have something to worry about our performance?
nova marsh
Still blessing ur vaults for free
Thank me later
I will get another weapon
It's gonna be so lit
nova marsh
Without adding to the panic from wowhead post, is the dooming of DPS warriors wa...
Yeah, blizzard nerfing us without reason again
frank moss
arms better then fury?
opal kelp
arms better then fury?
ST for sure
burnt gust
shadow ibex
Style for sure
frosty pike
maybe theyll give us some utility on that PTR to go with the nerfs
let me remove enrages with a soothing shout
"CAN YOU PLEASE CALM DOWN"
burnt gust
warriors are known for their soothing lullaby skills
fresh spire
yeh the utility will be you getting your talent point back as they moved shockwave into an un-takeable slot again 
grand idol
The funniest part about this is that its so true. Meteoroligists, on the whole, have about a good a chance at being right about weather as a coin.
nova marsh
Blizzard is just taking the piss at this point
The one reset day I get off and wow isn't even up for all of it lmao
nova marsh
Maybe blizz is preparing a warrior rework at the 11th hour 
fresh spire
"we have removed the abillity for adds to be tracked ingames for all logs" -blizzard 2024
this counts as a shadowpriest buff
burnt gust
just stand in the corner and hold yourself
potent fractal
frosty pike
"all aoe is now capped at 2, game will be put on pause during windows of no sweeping strikes"
potent fractal
Hey we are in the top 10 at least...
nova marsh
For now
frosty pike
it wouldn't be a blizzard tier if mages didn't have all three specs in S++
nova marsh
Lmao look at fire dude
In pvp it's apparently the worst spec in t he game
and considered trolling to play it
vast cedar
Could someone with orange parses talk about the nuances of their execute phase... im still confused whether i stack E'sP and Mart Prow stacks for MS or im spamming execute
nova marsh
And yeah it's down bad too
half vine
let me remove enrages with a soothing shout
Add the denrage shout like you said, and add 1 shout to rule them all - put the PvP battlefield Commander in our Class Tree. Buff the shouts.
Then give us a whole new "lust", Battle Shout can be activated in combat to give % Dmg increase for 30secs.
nova marsh
Could someone with orange parses talk about the nuances of their execute phase.....
Why do you need someone with orange parses to tell you how to exe?
worldly kernel
hmm
nova marsh
Just spam exe till rend runs out, then MS. with 4pc, spam exe until you have 2x EP and 2x 4pc
vast cedar
basically
iron spruce
Could someone with orange parses talk about the nuances of their execute phase.....
i double execute then mortal strike :)
half vine
Isnt every orange parse guy just ron swanson?
No way, Ron Swanson would make all "orange parse" guy look like Kyle
potent fractal
I've played arms since vanilla and refuse to go fury....
vast cedar
i double execute then mortal strike :)
overpower when rage starved or when you have 2 stacks?
nova marsh
i double execute then mortal strike :)
show diff
nova marsh
Also give colossus a flat 10% crit chance on autos so I have rage plz
Give colossus a talent that just buffs seasoned solider
iron spruce
i dont feel qualified to give real tips but i press overpower when it glows
burnt gust
most warrior response, I like it
potent fractal
Col is fun but ya it needs a booster step to reach the shelf.
burnt gust
when button make shiny I smash button
potent fractal
I'm just trying to reach the shelf!!
frosty pike
Add the denrage shout like you said, and add 1 shout to rule them all - put the ...
i like the idea of them getting into crazier stuff (i know aug is a point of contention here). that said even just SOME sort of utility to advertise in pugs would be nice. i can say for sure i get rejected more in pugging from a lack of bres/lust than i do my DPS not being appealing
nova marsh
i like the idea of them getting into crazier stuff (i know aug is a point of con...
Also you not being ranged is a disadvantage
potent fractal
Just tell them you are willing to intervene the tank.
nova marsh
pugs ALWAYS want ranged over meele. As much as humanly possible.
frosty pike
not being ranged and also prot warriors being meta does not help DPS warriors at all right now
nova marsh
Just tell them you are willing to intervene the tank.
oh god no the parry haste
potent fractal
🤣🤣
charred brook
So what rotation do you guys use in execute phase
do you always go for 2x EP 2x Tier buff
before you MS
cause ive been doing like Exe-op-exe-op-MS
and it feels like too much
half vine
i like the idea of them getting into crazier stuff (i know aug is a point of con...
Agreed - doing an improved rallying cry to give Health + % dmg increase for like 20secs would be such a good start to giving Us in the Brown-verse better utility.
It's all about dmg - so allow us to give increased dmg
teal fossil
Just spam exe till rend runs out, then MS. with 4pc, spam exe until you have 2x ...
@charred brook
Follow this
teal fossil
Agreed - doing an improved rallying cry to give Health + % dmg increase for like...
Now every raid will have 4+ warriors
Good luck balancing the spec
half vine
pugs ALWAYS want ranged over meele. As much as humanly possible.
Unless you're Ret - then you take Ret b/c it's faceroll on the keyboard easy and can do more dmg than any class without trying
half vine
Good luck balancing the spec
at this point, i'm ok with that. the level of mud dps warrior has had to truck through since legion, something has to give
nova marsh
Unless you're Ret - then you take Ret b/c it's faceroll on the keyboard easy and...
Ret is not a true meele and we all know it
half vine
mages bring lust - none of their specs are balanced around bringing that
shamans bring lust - their 2 dps specs are cooking
BM is just a dumpster fire at the moment
teal fossil
Lust is a generic utility
frosty pike
i feel like thats where hero specs stepping in would have been appropriate too. some hero specs play wildly different from one another, others have just boiled down to "this one does more than that one"
teal fossil
What you suggested is something completely unique specially in raid
If you just suggest lust then sure whatever
half vine
priests are balanced around PI then?
neon niche
mages bring lust - none of their specs are balanced around bringing that
mages: 10 different utilities
10 different different defensives
arms warrior: stormbolt during bladestorm 
teal fossil
You suggested it as if it’s aoe
gaunt owl
Everybody should protest by not pushing Stormbolt during Bladestorm
nova marsh
I mean PI was ridicious in Shadowlands
gaunt owl
there was an easy fix of making PI a self buff only
teal fossil
there was an easy fix of making PI a self buff only
Then they felt like making twins baseline
finite mantle
pi is good
shadow ibex
Delete aug
half vine
deleting all externals could make balancing easier
nova marsh
I think externals just need to....not be broken
Like aug (in more ways then one) and PI
teal fossil
Well Aug buff is already weaker than just taking another dps
gaunt owl
make Mortal Combo a thing again !
frosty pike
Make execute one shot anything below 20% hp
ugh, its not even 35%, unplayable
nova marsh
ugh, its not even 35%, unplayable
gaunt owl
we had a better Execute when it was only on the last 20%
gaunt owl
its kinda okay
charred brook
serv up
gaunt owl
but i still hate juggernaut
teal fossil
Remove jug
nova marsh
I hated juggernaught A LOT more in Legion
teal fossil
Let us get rewarded to sniping executes
gaunt owl
watching your 12 stack of jugg drop off 10 seconds before coming into Execute range make me sad
teal fossil
we had a better Execute when it was only on the last 20%
People didn’t want that
Blame the majority
frosty pike
another luke warm take - i miss the 80-100% venthyr execute 😦
halcyon hull
Condemn sucked
astral talon
nova marsh
AA was nice
teal fossil
We didn’t
We still do piss damage outside of execute
Well not piss
you get the idea
frosty pike
i said it was a luke warm take 😄 i know condemn is not everyones favorite
opal folio
Bring back banner tbh
frosty pike
i also enjoyed banner
nova marsh
Condemm was just objectively bad
teal fossil
If we had condemn then we would have flatter damage profile
nova marsh
again
teal fossil
Condemm was just objectively bad
Well that’s cuz it was tuned poorly with high opportunity cost
gaunt owl
all i want from Condemn is the absorb shield
nova marsh
Yeah the absorb in exe was nice
gaunt owl
that was gloriously free HPS
teal fossil
Best expac
gaunt owl
if they werent stubborn about gatekeeping Covenant
it would have been a far more appreciated xpac for sure
once we had freedom to choose it was good
nova marsh
If they make the gameplay good it would've been a lot better
And covenants weren't awful
teal fossil
if they werent stubborn about gatekeeping Covenant
I think they could’ve unleashed it in 9.05
So it’s like lore on why you can freely swap
halcyon hull
Shadowlands. The best expansion where everyone and their mother listed all the problems it was gonna have during beta and blizzard had to spend 2 years slowly rolling back all the shit decisions around covenants.
gaunt owl
Shadowlands. The best expansion where everyone and their mother listed all the p...
every xpac has the same cycle 😄
quasi torrent
If we had condemn then we would have flatter damage profile
teal fossil
Real
gaunt owl
accurate graph
halcyon hull
every xpac has the same cycle 😄
What really got rolled back in DF?
frosty pike
every xpac has the same cycle 😄
im a permanant shadowlands hater if it helps
finite mantle
hooooly
halcyon hull
If anything they got worse with it because they threw Aug into the game halfway
Lol
gaunt owl
What really got rolled back in DF?
class design
plenty of feedback was given during beta of DF
and only introduced during TWW beta
halcyon hull
Explain ret paladin
halcyon hull
I'll agree that every expac has stuff that gets mentioned during beta and ignored. I guess SL just felt infinitely worse because it was just so many different systems that needed to be addressed.
gaunt owl
all we really needed was free covenant swap
no restriction
for DF they probably spend too much time on Augvoker design
it was the first real support class
opal folio
I'll agree that every expac has stuff that gets mentioned during beta and ignore...
They also came across as fairly arrogant when responding to feedback back then imo, since they weren’t humbled by sub losses yet
gaunt owl
and it threw a big wrench into the game
halcyon hull
They also came across as fairly arrogant when responding to feedback back then i...
[Insert pull the ripcord comment here]
opal folio
gaunt owl
the famous tuning knob
halcyon hull
Which is to say I agree lmao
halcyon hull
for DF they probably spend too much time on Augvoker design
Aug should have either come with DF at launch or been held back until TWW(which I understand would have been weird lore wise)
But dropping it in the middle of a tier was wild
But I'd be just as happy seeing Aug not exist
gaunt owl
amen brother
shadow ibex
It's all cursed
halcyon hull
Damn. Sorry my guy.
bronze ether
Isn't that the rare cloak
fresh spire
Socket
halcyon hull
3 trinkets just wasting slots in your vault off the rip
fresh spire
bronze ether
What are these ilvl values wtf lol
neon niche
ANNDDD
sadge
I know its sadge cuz I got 2 trinkets of this list EQUIPPED
not saying which ones tho 👉 👌 😂
nova marsh
What are these ilvl values wtf lol
It's called welcome to pug hell
frosty pike
i have the power of god and anime on my side
halcyon hull
Big stick
frosty pike
2000 valorstones for a weapon to go 1-6 myth, thank god i was sitting on cap
latent arrow
almost as good as sex tbh
boreal zealot
question about weapon enchant: authority of depths looks more single target. should I better use radiant power for overall use? is it too much behind in single target?
plain solstice
😈
bright mauve
Nice congrats!
halcyon hull
I'm still stuck with a heroic dungeon sacbrood
And not from a lack of running ara-kara keys
steep wedge
damn yall god sacbroods
modest bone
should i prioritize overpower over slam in raid bosses ?
shadow ibex
should i prioritize overpower over slam in raid bosses ?
Prio op over slam everywhere
atomic mountain
prio all cds over slam pls XD
modest bone
ok
nova marsh
A trash vault and an enternity to sim it
unborn oak
is Intervene not function if i got a alli/horde split raid group? i sometime i just cant charge 😮
worldly kernel
🤔
frosty pike
intervene do have a minimal range requirement
i dont think this is the case
frosty pike
i intervene people in melee all the time, with no movement
nova marsh
AND SAC?
worldly kernel
my friends vault not mine i got a myth helmet
nova marsh
Oh
worldly kernel
his vault pretty CRAZY though
worldly kernel
god i wish I had those 2 myth trinks
unborn wraith
worldly kernel
also a 639 myth wep was a DPS loss for me
fossil knoll
not sure between the head hero 3 or the cloak
worldly kernel
crafted
fossil knoll
nova marsh
Ring is very nice ye
fossil knoll
how good is that cloak? nice stats but the abilitie
worldly kernel
gonna be honest if it was my vault i'd want khadros
fossil knoll
other hand the tier head is hero 3
halcyon hull
how good is that cloak? nice stats but the abilitie
Bis stats arms(though you should always sim) and the effect is just a free bonus
fossil knoll
nice
frosty pike
i wanted to use some gilded to make a ring since i appear to be hard stuck on a champ track ring right now. is it worth throwing any of the embellishments on it or should i just wait? only one that seems alright is elemental focusing lens
smoky kayak
intervene do have a minimal range requirement
it does not
nova marsh
So is skyterror's actually good?
unborn oak
mh i tested it with a friend in raid it does work, mhh i will test further i write again.
fringe moon
what's the trick again for jumping out of the last boss of ara-kara?
frosty pike
wait until the cast bar is 90~%
if you cant do that just wait til the little "bounce" when the pull in is happening
and then send your heroic leap
fringe moon
hmm...I tried that but still ended up getting sucked in and died. do I need to spell reflect anything?
rare kite
what's the trick again for jumping out of the last boss of ara-kara?
i wait til 0.5 sec left then jump. works everytime
shadow ibex
this tier is nothing but on use
its not that bad i guess since they dont care about when being used
nova marsh
It's still really annoying
shadow ibex
its either myth larynx or myth track shoulders to cata
but i can just get shoulders from first boss
nova marsh
I just want sac brood so I don't have to use them.
dire hinge
its either myth larynx or myth track shoulders to cata
tokens for gold 
gear its temporary
gloomy atlas
Whenever you are in M+ with the prio builds, in execute phase on a add do you still fish for the two stacks of lethal blows or send it with two executioner's precision?
shadow ibex
i hate taking the trinket cuz im not super impressed by it
but its also not bad
the dmg is over time so it has many chances to crit
well no t many but a few
obtuse surge
how come wowhead says double use trinkets is better? thought it was forbidden to use double use
gray steeple
Not forbidden, just not optimal for most
teal fossil
how come wowhead says double use trinkets is better? thought it was forbidden to...
Also mad queen is just use whenever
Doesn’t have to be aligned with anything
obtuse surge
ahh, yea have hero sac, hero mad queens, champ treacherous. if thats the case might just run both hero queen and champ treacherous for arms
and maybe for fury ill run both hero trinkets
nova marsh
The only reason people want sac is literally just to avoid doubb on use
Shits just annoying
mild sierra
how come wowhead says double use trinkets is better? thought it was forbidden to...
double on use stat trinkets is illegal
that is stat on use + dmg on use
when u use the dmg one doesnt matter
frosty ingot
why is my sim on training dummy casting cleave? do you use it over slam in ST or something?
lofty patrol
So if im not doing mythic raiding or +9 keys i dont get any gilded crests right? Which means both champion and hero can reach a max of 619?
worldly kernel
mandate is just good damage you send
strong tendon
hero can go to 626
But yes you need gilded crests to get there. which you can get from the last 2 bosses on heroic or occasionally forom teasure mapped delves
I also believe once you have cmpletely maxed out your runed crests in every slot you can trade them up for gilded, at 90 -->15.
So you have a path to get to 626, it will not be fast though.
sudden sentinel
is arms out perfoming fury in m+?
manic stirrup
no both are viable though
nova sequoia
Is it generally best to wait for avater or bladestorm to allign with colossus smash? even with anger management? or just pop them whenever they are up?
stuck pebble
Ya'll
What fucking flask do you use in raids
Archim be stating 3 different ones on two sources that got updated the same day
gray steeple
sim it
stuck pebble
There's gotta be a go-to one man
gray steeple
crit for most, haste for others.
stuck pebble
Thanks
noble oxide
Do top gear sims take into account execute range?
halcyon hull
fringe moon
about to be using 2x on use
this on use isn't that bad. doesn't need to line up with anything
vault
zealous sphinx
Does wreking throw work on affix
wintry scroll
Does wreking throw work on affix
Yea
Any sheild stuff works
But idk if it's worth the talent point
Can someone affirm ?
bright crow
I'm runing Mercurial Egg and I'm sitting at 25% crit 25% haste. Should I push it so the trinket stacks haste or crit?
gray steeple
sim both
inner wasp
damn this shit is so ass
ig i take the weapon since its hero track even tho its bad stats
edgy solstice
make Mortal Combo a thing again !
spread the movement brother
teal fossil
are you able to drop bounding stride
teal fossil
Take out reverb
reverb is quite decent now
sharp dust
ig i take the weapon since its hero track even tho its bad stats
Take socket, you can farm hero gear in 7s
inner wasp
Take socket, you can farm hero gear in 7s
far too late unfort
sharp dust
Doesn't really matter unless you're trying to sweat early season prog
Take what makes you happy and Zug Zug
regal axle
question about gems, do we actually want one of each color before stacking deadly emeralds? sims are telling me to ignore the meta gem and just go outright deadly emeralds on all 3 of my slots so far
woven wasp
That shit sucks
sir this is arms
frosty pike
have you always been able to move while demolishing? am i this stupid?
solid sentinel
Do you guys use any wa's to track 4piece buff ?
quaint otter
That shit sucks
Should be okayge with cleave
zenith crystal
Do you guys use any wa's to track 4piece buff ?
I mean…do you need to? Normal prio should naturally use it.
halcyon breach
You want to track it during Execute
fresh spire
Do you guys use any wa's to track 4piece buff ?
only time buff is worth tracking is inside of execute, outside of that it doesn't matter
solid sentinel
I mean…do you need to? Normal prio should naturally use it.
I dont rlly need it, I went to wago and I saw theres nothing about this set so i was just wandering if its a thing or not
halcyon breach
As you can have very cringe moments where you Execute 5+ times and don't hit a Tac proc
solid sentinel
You want to track it during Execute
Do you have one ?
fresh spire
if you good at paying attention to overpower to notice 2 resets then the tier one isn't so important, but really in execute its nice to run a weakaura for opportunist/set as it makes knowing when you should be executing or using op/ms etc
halcyon breach
Do you have one ?
I do, but I'm not at the PC right now so can't share
You can simply make one by copying another WA you might have that tracks a buff, then change it to Lethal Blows
It just has an awkward caveat to it that it takes a moment for it to give you the stack of the set bonus, so it'll be delayed even if you get a Tac proc
shadow ibex
As you can have very cringe moments where you Execute 5+ times and don't hit a T...
1/2 deft experience vibe
halcyon breach
There's probably a fix to make it instant but I'm too dumb and too lazy to look for it
fresh spire
1/2 deft experience vibe
surely we will have points for it and bl next tier surely
(unhinged will get hinged
shadow ibex
im 100% ok with unhinged being super slotted all expac for slayer
but no plz free colossus from these ravager shackles
fresh spire
Issue is forced bladestorm
If they killed unhinged at least colosssus can drop ravager
Unhinged good. Bs bad
Tbh bake unhinged into slayer instead
And remove it from tree
shadow ibex
colossus with aoe MS would be
so good
can actually interact wit hEP in aoe
or just let cleave pop EP
idk its weird not havign an aoe rage dump man
execute rage is super cringe but above it youre flooded
cuz all youre doing is cleave for 20 rage
fresh spire
Execute just spends more since ir hasn't been adjusted
Most abilities was 30 but changed to 20 while execute still has the higher cap of 40
Why it feels so starved
teal fossil
EP should be a b uff
shadow ibex
its only starved when u press that tho otherwise youre chillin
fresh spire
I just want execute thunderclap back
shadow ibex
yes
thats exactly what i mean
colossus needs an aoe dump = give back TClap exe
idk how tho
shadow ibex
what else you gonna take
fresh spire
Was looking over the action list other day
fresh spire
Feels sad not pressing cleave to thunderclap in colossus as cleave hits like a truck
shadow ibex
idk what i would tie tclap exe to
upon reaching 10 stacks
get a buff that gives them
fresh spire
Kinda why I want clapcute back as sd/ep/clap being one button proc to do all multipliers and rebuff would be nice
shadow ibex
i dont even want it tied to SD man
i want to just be able to spend rage above 35% in aoe as colossus
fresh spire
It was sudden death proc related
shadow ibex
yea ik but we dont even take SD
fresh spire
Sd>ep on 5 target at least
shadow ibex
and im ok with that
fresh spire
On St ep is actually mega low
Slayer I got it down to almost 1%dif
Making cursed apl to support no ep
All because mortal strike actually sucks
Its not even worth epx2 ms anymore
fresh spire
Actually a disaster
shadow ibex
i wouldnt care if i didnt have to track shit
just to hit a MS that hits a lil harder than OP
fresh spire
Only good for set because of addition amps and more forced crits
shadow ibex
fresh spire
Opportunist is just damn strong
fresh spire
Being buffed from 10% to 30% was a monster buff
shadow ibex
i would sell my soul for frontal MS man
fresh spire
In the old iterations apl for slayer you could press anything and your damage stayed same as it suffered with execute being so mediocre for an execute based hero tree. They buffed it shot ms and buffed opportunist now we got this weird setup instead
shadow ibex
i just wanna pop like 6 stacks of EP
i do feel like a mastermind warrior when sweeping executes and letting ravager MS pop them by swapping target
fresh spire
Plenty of stuff just feels old or weak.
Ep weak because ms weak.
Jugg too many stacks low duration
Bl 0 damage amps only rage refund is little lack luster.
Fatality didn't even have an aura buff was terrible until they removed the 40% aura and its still basically down bad
shadow ibex
ill take fatality being removed
fresh spire
Bloodletting is just soo good it's manditory
shadow ibex
we really need a facelift bloodletting could be a capstone its so good
or buff blord and put it there
storm of swords needs to go
fresh spire
Add on bladestorm being forced and unhinged being the strongest node as the others are generally weak it's hard to make anything out of the left side bottom when we see starved for points as we got like 7 points for execute stuff slone
shadow ibex
cleave is 20 rage you dont need a free cleave
you generate 20 rage before you can even cast cleave again
fresh spire
Think node id basically for whirlwinding back to back. Wasn't really updated after they removed ww when cleave taken made more sence before that change
fresh spire
Defo taking that 8 rage op node they decided to split as the old op node was just goated
shadow ibex
i really want that to make MS cost -8 rage + a buff to mortal strike
and buff reset talents
and let colossus mash MS till its heart explodes
shadow ibex
yes
fresh spire
Mp is so irrelevant to how the rotation plays id rather they shot it and found something else for op to do like I dunno. Having bl baseline in it's place
plucky fern
idk a lot of talents can be EASILLY saved it doesnt even take a lot of dev effort
throw a 10% overpower damage amp on finishing blows and its aleady a viable talent
slap a 200% aura buff on fatality and its a viable talent
make jugg less stacks more amp - solved
the problem is blizzard ignores arms existence so noone will do anything
daring heron
do i say it
fresh spire
Hahahhaa
daring heron
i didnt mention it for a while, it's off cd now
fresh spire
Make another video talking about the good days of legion arms and start dramatically crying to the point you drunk stream again
daring heron
lmao
a few people have said it sounds/looks like im crying in my fury nerfs video
i'm just disappointed
fresh spire
I might actually sit down tomorrow and rate each talent on a spreadsheet for memes
Man's sad
plucky fern
critical strike cake is more and more often seen in the forbidden arms channel
fresh spire
How can you not be when you enjoy one class and they keep nerfing and making uneducated nerfs
fresh spire
Warrior main one trick true warrior behaviour
daring heron
is fury over?
yeah man
solid sentinel
a few people have said it sounds/looks like im crying in my fury nerfs video
I told my friends that I hope they will buff warriors after world frist and they said im on cope 😦
daring heron
we probably just cant be buffed with our current design
the burst is too oppressive in raid
plucky fern
they can buff thane tho
summer shore
warrior needs remake tbh
fresh spire
The specs are over due the megs overhauls
Just don't think blizzard know what they want from it themselves.
plucky fern
warrior needs remake tbh
warrior needs god
fresh spire
Fr
shadow ibex
idek anymore
plucky fern
or at least one sober dev that plays the game at least sometimes
shadow ibex
i wish a dev would be aware of the 4pc tech of tracking 2 seperate MS buffs to make it worth a GCD
weak aura ahh spec
summer shore
MS and execute used to be arms iconic abilities
potent fossil
hey i have a great vault question
solid sentinel
the burst is too oppressive in raid
Yeah but other talents can be buffed like our dots
potent fossil
raidbots says the cloak is the best option (haste vers, +32 ilvl upgrade over what i have now) but wowhead says the ara kara sacbrood trink is an alternate-bis trinket, maybe not that ilvl but for the proc
what yall think?
teal fossil
which also makes words/bloodborne synergy stronger
teal fossil
raidbots says the cloak is the best option (haste vers, +32 ilvl upgrade over wh...
its very easy to get a 603 sac
is 616 cloak myth track
or no
potent fossil
the cloak is hero gear if that helps
potent fossil
ok, i'll go w the cloak ty
summer shore
do colossus arms in m+ go for crit/mastery
teal fossil
go haste mastery to get more demolish then cross your fingers that it crits
visual fern
we probably just cant be buffed with our current design
We can be buffed
Just it requires a bit of thought
More than "X skills appears to be problem, adjust only X skill"
fleet sinew
He's crazy
arctic hearth
./use 13 and/or use 14
rich ridge
How to play arms?
teal fossil
why doesnt this macro work anymore?
You do not want to do this
Mad queen isn’t affected by avatar
dire hinge
How do you avoid getting critted by zekvir? LMAO
that's the fun thing: you don't!
he just does that sometimes
dire hinge
dust off and go again ¯_(ツ)_/¯
save your potion for fast recovery, be sure to stand near Brann potions on the floor, etc
crystal sparrow
On Court are you guys holding Bladestorm for adds?
nova marsh
Yeah seems like a fight where pots are required too
crystal sparrow
Or you just sending that shit
nova marsh
On Court are you guys holding Bladestorm for adds?
I mean arms is a boss dam ethical spec
dire hinge
Yeah seems like a fight where pots are required too
i did it without lust or pots, just takes patience and (at times) good rng
dire hinge
they're just a touch expensive, and not necessary
nova marsh
Yeah the damage on this fight is insane
dreamy egret
You do not want to do this
I just always macroed trinkets with avatar
lethal briar
Anyone know the best way to use Ovi'nax's mercurial egg? when to use the on use etc
robust ridge
My Pally and DK (same ilvl) both have hard times getting into keys; there is just a surplus of DPS v. Tanks / Heals
nova marsh
That's not the real issue
It's that pugs are looking for ranged
and people who bring utility they need like lust
Warrior....has none of that
Neither does pally or DK (ret is a fake meele)
robust ridge
Sure, I guess if the intent is to garner sympathy then yeh it's hard as melee trying to pug; has been for a long time
Just keep grinding
nova marsh
na I just wonna be overdramatic
Also to show progress on my way to my grand goal: 1k declines!
slow ingot
question, should i pop my combat pot during execute phase or lust/pull?
balmy kindle
Try running own keys or joining lower rated folks keys lol
nova marsh
Try running own keys or joining lower rated folks keys lol
I. Fucking. Have.
edgy solstice
even if you play fotm dps, it doesn't change much. there will be 20 people playing the same spec with more io than you
nova marsh
At this point I'm doing it for the meme
balmy kindle
even if you play fotm dps, it doesn't change much. there will be 20 people playi...
This
If your primary objective is to get in keys fast it's tank or heal
edgy solstice
if you wanna do keys, run your own or reroll tank. unforch the only good options
nova marsh
You fool
I don't HAVE any good options
and noone's gonna sign up for a +6 siege I've already proven this
slow ingot
question, should i pop my combat pot during execute phase or lust/pull?
nova marsh
question, should i pop my combat pot during execute phase or lust/pull?
Depends on fight length
If it's super short, like sub 2 minutes, probally in exe
balmy kindle
and noone's gonna sign up for a +6 siege I've already proven this
I mean SOB is not popular with tanks too so
nova marsh
I mean SOB is not popular with tanks too so
Yeah my keys are two options
Waste my time trying to form a group or waste my time trying to get into a group
edgy solstice
just how the community is. if you're not overqualified, you usually don't get invited. and you only seem overqualified if you jump out the gate early and slam keys
edgy solstice
i was 2.5k end of week 1 and still get declined from 8s for trink farm
balmy kindle
Waste my time trying to form a group or waste my time trying to get *into* a gro...
You can try get lowbies in just for completion
edgy solstice
just how it be
slow ingot
this season is really rough trying to pug keys. I see a dozen posts about it daily throughout communities/guilds/reddits
nova marsh
Yep
slow ingot
hell, even 4s ive seen people leave as soon as they die
nova marsh
Or 5s
runic tundra
15s death timers don't help matters either
balmy kindle
leavers...
Same old shite, it's not gonna change unless blizz penalize them
nova marsh
Yeah no that was just a stupid design on blizzard's part
"let's overpunish the players for dying! That'll go well!"
slow ingot
well, they have to make some sort of incentive to not dying as well lol
nova marsh
Okay but 5 was enough
15 is extreme
15 on tighter timers means wipe can just be insta deplete
it's not as if there wasn't incentive to not die in a timed format where deaths reduce the timer anyways
runic tundra
1:15 on a wipe does add up
nova marsh
Sounds omega scuffed
loud wadi
[Shattering Throw] works in new affixe removing the shield and killing the add?
is a question sorry my english
balmy kindle
idk what to do diff i press buttons
Rotations aside, your trinkets and the no enchantment on weapon is kind of eh
inner wasp
Rotations aside, your trinkets and the no enchantment on weapon is kind of eh
really trying not to spend 10k on a champ weapon
so im waiting
i want rotational advice tho
balmy kindle
Tbh arms is kind of simple and I am not too familiar with the fights yet on nerubar. But you should be doing alot more damage.
balmy kindle
I am not mocking you , your damage can vary just by the amount of crits you get lol
Also things like Sudden death procs allowing you to keep juggernaut stacks high are a thing as well
inner wasp
i do that
manic stirrup
u didnt cs before bladestorm
thats abd
u didnt avatar before bladestorm either
on pull
manic stirrup
looks pretty solid then
inner wasp
the opener wouldnt make my overall dps drop by like 200k tho would it
balmy kindle
There's a case for it since if u land a fat execute on opener with CS
Your just pump on meters
inner wasp
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/j7CcDHBzhRArf4N1#fight=last&type=damage-done&source=7 i dont think i fucked the opener here
balmy kindle
Ideally you do your opener, land execute crit with 3 marks
manic stirrup
u linke dthe same pull
balmy kindle
Is it just me or logs being funny but there seems to be alot of downtime on you
Also don't see usage of SKS which is a significant ST increase
Idk, someone more experienced can perhaps help you more
shadow ibex
maybe cursed guild strats
tawdry elk
Is it just me or are there like, zero Arms warrior guides on YouTube this season. I usually enjoy watching through guides to see what everyone does on classes that I play and it seems there aren't any that I can find.
inner wasp
maybe i was missing tons of sks casts
i feel like im casting it more now that u mentioned it
tacit crystal
can you link?
balmy kindle
Is it just me or are there like, zero Arms warrior guides on YouTube this season...
Because fury bandwagon
nova marsh
can you link?
addon is declined
tacit crystal
ty
sullen holly
how much of a % dps increase is 4 piece going from no tier?
is there a chart somewhere?
dire hinge
3.2% for slayer
6.9% for colossus
[spreadsheet here]
sullen holly
ouch just 3%?
sullen holly
ah
nova marsh
Most tier sets are usually like 3-5% on average, some more some less
But they aren't like...10% gains or smth
sullen holly
i guess id rather be mostly balanced without it than crap dps without it
nova marsh
Ye basically
Someone tried to tell me tier and embellishments are worth more then borrowed power are
sullen holly
does borrowed power refer to tier bonuses?
sullen holly
oh gotcha
nova marsh
depends on the context
dire hinge
ouch just 3%?
3% of a larger number is better than 6% of a smaller number 😄
even though colossus number look bigger, it's still worse damage overall
thick hamlet
anybody got experience with overclocked gear-a-rang launcher?
i got it in the vault and it's simming highest than anything else i got for ST too (thought it was an aoe trinket)
fringe moon
anybody have the WA for the 4pc?
reef glade
maybe i was missing tons of sks casts
yea i mean looks like u had 8 sks for 6 roars when you should have double the number of sks as roars
for one thing
inner wasp
yea i mean looks like u had 8 sks for 6 roars when you should have double the nu...
i move where my sks is on my bars so i can see it better
i miss no more casts
🙏
reef glade
the one thing im still getting annoyed at with arms is how often i gotta reapply rend
most annoying shit
inner wasp
real
reef glade
i just checked all the bosses i played arms on this raid
inner wasp
idk what im supposed to do when in st spec in trash packs either like
i dont have clap
reef glade
the lowest uptime i had was like 98%
inner wasp
do i just not bother w/ rend on 1 target
reef glade
but even still it should never fall off
just sometimes does when im more focused on like every other ability i have
balmy kindle
Based : rend shd auto apply on ms regardless
reef glade
real news
balmy kindle
Pls remove rend from hot bar thank you blizz
nova sequoia
Ive started to just not play with it. It's garbage.
Damage needs to be tripled if I'm gonna spend mental space trying to reapply that shit
nova sequoia
Yeah, when I re apply rend
nova sequoia
I'm spending way to much mental space trying to explain this to you right now
nova marsh
🤷
thick hamlet
day 69 of asking about Ovi'nax's Mercurial Egg's sim data
how does the sim interact with it if at all? does it actually try to balance the buff in some way?
nova marsh
bro the season hasn't even been out for 69 days lol
dire hinge
how does the sim interact with it if at all? does it actually try to balance the...
patchwerk sims assume no movement, you can try doing a "light movement" sim to see if your performance changes
thick hamlet
if no movement=max primary stats all the time then that might contribute to how high it's been simming for me
i'll try
thick hamlet
patchwerk sims assume no movement, you can try doing a "light movement" sim to s...
pretty much same
dire hinge
thick hamlet
everything i've seen/heard about this trinket is that it's doodoo
have we been lied to? how far deep does this go
balmy kindle
have we been lied to? how far deep does this go
For me it seems worse than the fang trinket from delves even at a higher level
I am not sure how the math works, but raidbots must be right
thick hamlet
any feel on what the best weapon enchant for allrounder (M+ and raid)
i like authority of the depths for a good allrounder
balmy kindle
any feel on what the best weapon enchant for allrounder (M+ and raid)
If you are poor > storms or radiant power
If you are rich > depths
ebon garden
thanks guy
trim skiff
holy fk i didn't think a vault could be this bad
ebon garden
depth sims a little bit lower on AOE, but much better on st
elfin violet
so depressing seeing depths overall damage 1% +- though
its like i might as well put a stat proc
clear rain
is there a way to show rage number in platers personal bar?
i dont see anything
it only shows %
thick hamlet
holy fk i didn't think a vault could be this bad
the overclocked gear-a-rang seems to sim real high for me
heady hazel
i've got a question . i crafted a 2h axe weap in first week with Ascension Emeblish on it, and now i got a BIS Weap from my M+ Weekly vault and i have to swap the weaps
but in raidbot, it says you will lose almost 38k dps 😐 its because of the Embellishment
trim skiff
the overclocked gear-a-rang seems to sim real high for me
it sims -35k on 5 targets
thick hamlet
it sims -35k on 5 targets
in comparison with what trinket?
heady hazel
i've got a question . i crafted a 2h axe weap in first week with Ascension Emebl...
what should i do now . should i just pick the weap from vault
trim skiff
in comparison with what trinket?
sacbrood and skarmorak
trim skiff
the gloves is an actual upgrade by a whopping 1% on 639 compared to current 619
its amazing how the vault can drop items that are downright useless even with +20 ilvl upgrades, i never understood how we just cannot filter embellished item slots
getting a socket on fucking week 2 is an insane disappointment overall
thats the only possible way for me to get mythic track items and here this is
crisp crane
reflect removed from zekvir. scam 
neon jasper
getting a socket on fucking week 2 is an insane disappointment overall
Would you say that youre pushing content that's making your vault worse but that's the price you pay for having hero track assumingly on a lot of slots with a ton of crests to upgrade those items?
coarse glade
Id say my vault is the definition of mediocre 😄
neon jasper
Cake and can't eat it too type situation
trim skiff
Would you say that youre pushing content that's making your vault worse but that...
I have no use of Runed crests anymore, all of my items are 619 or higher. Well, mostly 619, wep is 626 and have 2 crafted 636's and last weeks bis ring from vault
oblique lodge
Would love those from the raid drop tho
trim skiff
Id say my vault is the definition of mediocre 😄
cant go wrong with boots honestly, good amount of haste
coarse glade
Nice boots tho
neck is hc though
neon jasper
Yes but what I'm saying is youre already geared out the ass so your vaults almost certainly going to be not crazy
coarse glade
cant go wrong with boots honestly, good amount of haste
yeah, boots are nice, had hoped for a better slot though 😄 But better then socket i guess haha
oblique lodge
neck is hc though
Ye sadly..tho rashan myth shouldn't be that bad
coarse glade
I like it so much more to get something i need from m+ out of it 😄
trim skiff
yeah, boots are nice, had hoped for a better slot though 😄 But better then sock...
when your only upgrade is a 0.1% increase and a socket is 0.2%, well yeah, its kinda disappointing
coarse glade
Ye sadly..tho rashan myth shouldn't be that bad
pls dont tell me that 😄 We didnt even kill Sikran because no tanks are available
oblique lodge
pls dont tell me that 😄 We didnt even kill Sikran because no tanks are availabl...
Rrrrashhhhannnnnn
coarse glade
Was first kinda stoked to see a crit/haste belt, but then realized its still the wrong one 🤕
trim skiff
Yes but what I'm saying is youre already geared out the ass so your vaults almos...
I'm not waiting for crazy vaults or anything like that. I'm saying its pretty disappointing to get 3 items that have zero use or you cant even catalyst them. I'd have said nothing if I got a shoulder or like a piece I could catalyst 😄
oblique lodge
neck is hc though
Tho tbh that neck is poggers for me , still running CoT one and need more crit
neon jasper
I get you i also think it'd be sick if you could customize what you could roll but I'm more than satisfied with how it exists now compared to like bfa's chest for example
Click chest
No choice
You get 1 item
If it didn't titanforge it was giga trash
And then also if it wasn't corrupted it was even more trash
We've come so far since
coarse glade
Tho tbh that neck is poggers for me , still running CoT one and need more crit
i have the haste mastery delve neck, so that one prob sims better for me haha
oblique lodge
Ye that would sim better for me too, either rashan or hero delve
trim skiff
We've come so far since
yeah we've come far, but not far enough imo. the vault should be an addition to you grinding and it should help you out. Atleast in DF S4 you had "bad luck protection" due to getting a gear piece on a 1/14 track which you could upgrade it to full. I'm not saying we should get this 3-4 times, but being able to choose something 2 times in the full span of a season wouldn't hurt anyone or anything.
I'd also appreciate being able to close out certain options. Like why would you want to change your embellished slots if you craft them like I do, for the long run...
I've been there tho, getting a random one piece doesn't help really, yeah
neon jasper
Id certainly support maybe a bullion a month system and being able to lock a slot every 2? Weeks
Any more of those 2 things would accelerate the season too much imo but that's completely subjective
dire hinge
i just want the ability to freeze my vault and re-take it the next week tbh
had 2 options in there this week and last week that i'd happily forego a whole vault just to pick
trim skiff
Id certainly support maybe a bullion a month system and being able to lock a slo...
I could even go like 3 bullions / season. But having zero luck with vault is really demoralising imo
balmy kindle
Blizz : wow insane idea, take of this intern, be sure to never implement it
smoky kayak
Idk, Vault has some annoyance but it's way better than previous systems
oblique lodge
Honest opinion , gear got from being good from raid only. To mythic + being released and u getting an alternative of pugging raid or having to do it to be on the same level as other players in dps matters , then 2,3 chests got removed into the vault we had , switched to this vault , gear is so much easier to come by now and all this being able to free vault/get bullions make the game piss easy (excuse my language) so the way it is right now it do be the nicest we had (in my opinion) no freezing or locking for whenever needed , just luck, from 3-4 pieces a week to the amount you get now? Makes the game grindable ,more fun ,more played for them
thick kelp
Idk, Vault has some annoyance but it's way better than previous systems
bfa chest dopamine hit
dire hinge
haha, when you got ONE item and that was allll you got for the week
frosty basin
bfa chest dopamine hit
hoping you get that kings rest weapon for all of expansion on every chest
doesnt sound like fun to me
boreal quartz
Honest opinion , gear got from being good from raid only. To mythic + being rele...
Have you gotten 6 or so back to back vaults of chasing 1 last item to never get it
Fully socketed already ofc
I.e chasing mythic track ara kara all season
oblique lodge
Have you gotten 6 or so back to back vaults of chasing 1 last item to never get ...
Yep , df season 3 , for might of the ocean trink , got it last week before s4
boreal quartz
And you dont think that's cringe?
oblique lodge
Nope , I don't mind it , it's just rng at the end of the day
vapid karma
damn gear is heroin to some
boreal quartz
I mean raid gear is easier to get if you do a lot of farm
M+ is just gamba
Wich is annoying
oblique lodge
damn gear is heroin to some
reef knoll
Heytrying to learn arms. Do you only click mortal strike to reapply rend? Or what
oblique lodge
Sometimes cleave
dire hinge
Heytrying to learn arms. Do you only click mortal strike to reapply rend? Or wha...
depends on the content you're running, but Mortal Strike only aplies rend during "execute phase", could you give us more context about what kind of fights you're doing? Are you in raid? Are you doing dungeons? One target? Many targets?
reef knoll
depends on the content you're running, but Mortal Strike only aplies rend during...
Just trying to learn arms for ST raid encounters
dire hinge
in single target, you'll be casting Mortal Strike on cooldown until the boss hits 35% health, where you'll then use an "execute rotation"
These will probably help you the most right now:
cold narwhal
is the Mercurial Egg a Sims trap or it performs about as well as it shows?
reef knoll
in single target, you'll be casting Mortal Strike on cooldown until the boss hit...
Is their perhaps an even further jn depth guide? And that means i have to track rend and not let it fall off correcf?
dire hinge
is the Mercurial Egg a Sims trap or it performs about as well as it shows?
the sim doesn't move the character at all throughout, likely skews its uptime a little bit, but arms likes secondaries and mainstat
dire hinge
Is their perhaps an even further jn depth guide? And that means i have to track ...
there's other guides in #dps-faq you can use as well (at the top), but yes you'll want to also track Rend
reef knoll
there's other guides in <#1237303208754286715> you can use as well (at the top),...
So pretty much if im understanding it correctly i want to charge rend the do all the cds in order: roar-avatar-colossal smash- bladestorm
Only thing jm not undertanding clearly is when to use the skullsplitter cd
misty bridge
damn gear is heroin to some
dire hinge
Only thing jm not undertanding clearly is when to use the skullsplitter cd
it's at the top of that first link (Best Arms Warrior Opener). You follow up your cooldowns with a Mortal Strike into a Skullsplitter
after the opener, arms uses a "priority system" of what is currently available to you, so you always cast the highest thing in the list
reef knoll
Thank you. Just need to understand the dynamic of mortal strike overpowered and skullsplitter. I understand the other parts. Maybe ill just revisit later on today when im not sleepy
dire hinge
totally. If you're not in execute phase, it's basically:
- Overpower if you have the "Opportunist" buff
- Mortal Strike
- Skullsplitter is your highest priority "filler" spell.
- Overpower without any buffs
Slam should only be used if you're literally out of every cooldown possible
reef knoll
Just saw on icy veins to keep mortal strike on cooldown
dire hinge
that's the goal, correct
the caveat being that "Opportunist" is slightly more important.
so it's Mortal Strike > Overpower > Skullsplitter
with an asterisk that "Opportunist" overpowers come first
reef knoll
Only execute with 2 or marks stacks of mark of death
reef knoll
so it's `Mortal Strike > Overpower > Skullsplitter`
with an asterisk that "Oppor...
Nice
Ok im getting it
dire hinge
Only execute with 2 or marks stacks of mark of death
before "execute phase" (above 35% boss hp) you use Execute with:
3 stacks of Marked for Execution
OR
2 stacks of Sudden Death
it's good to go to the rotation page, break it into smaller chunks and just learn those on a training dummy in little parts instead of trying to firehose the whole class at times
reef knoll
Yea i was trying it in a dummy and sustaining only 700k dps. I was doing the whole rotation wrong and it felt like i didnt know what i was doing
I was spamming slam and not clicking mortal strike at all
dire hinge
ah, yeah Slam should be your absolute last resort
reef knoll
ah, yeah Slam should be your absolute last resort
Got it, is like ww on fury?
When u have nothing to click, click that?
dire hinge
not gonna lie i dont know anything about fury ¯_(ツ)_/¯
but yes
our rough gameplay loop is:
Mortal Strike -> Overpower -> spend rage to try and get Overpower back via a passive called "Tactician"
warped elbow
sorry if it's posted somewhere, but why do like 90% of warriors play fury instead of arms? am i missing something
reef knoll
Mind if i hit you up later for the aoe portion?
random wasp
sorry if it's posted somewhere, but why do like 90% of warriors play fury instea...
fury has strong raid performance in the add encounters
which are most encounters
rare kite
sorry if it's posted somewhere, but why do like 90% of warriors play fury instea...
Fury feels more conplete imo. Something is missing with arms
warped elbow
fast burst with Odin's and ww?
random wasp
i imagine fury will fall down a bit in usage as the adds die faster with more gear and the nerfs
dire hinge
sorry if it's posted somewhere, but why do like 90% of warriors play fury instea...
fury has a lot going for it. It's tankier (higher baseline hp thanks to second weapon) and it's the beastmaster hunter of melee (simple rotation, easy to do well with while having little class knowledge).
This raid specifically was almost designed for fury's toolkit, so it was popular since it allowed your raid to focus boss damage heavier and rely on your Fury Warrior to handle intermittent adds
random wasp
the adds of the raid dont have a high health pool usually
so fury aoe burst is very desirable
warped elbow
Ah okay thank you all! I've been very confused since arms is doing better in other aspects but only see fury's
dire hinge
it can do most of its burst in just 2-3 GCDs and its burst is on a very short cooldown, so it can flex into AoE easily, and on-demand
Arms is more boss damage focused
warped elbow
Fury feels more conplete imo. Something is missing with arms
i agree a bit, aoe arms with Collateral Damage feels good overall but single target swith Skullsplitter is just a bit meh
dire hinge
Fury is doing wet noodle boss damage atm, but cleans up adds like none other
random wasp
yeah fury is desirable just because of the encounter design
if this was a single target focused raid, fury would be bottom of the barrel rn
its good for keys too. not the best but its good. arms has similar overall but less tanky than fury
reef knoll
Arms is huge ST tho.
warped elbow
Good good, i'll keep going strong with arms then
random wasp
Arms is huge ST tho.
yeah the st is strong. the play is to play arms in sikran, kyveza and rashanan
even if you're a fury main
reef knoll
yeah the st is strong. the play is to play arms in sikran, kyveza and rashanan
Yea thats why i want to learn arms so i could bring that higher ST to raid
misty bridge
Slam should only be used if you're literally out of every cooldown possible
I believe even re-application of rend in pandemic has a higher prio than slam
reef knoll
Just having a bit of trouble understanding the rotation outside of the CDs. But hrothmar helped me
random wasp
Just having a bit of trouble understanding the rotation outside of the CDs. But ...
i just follow wowhead priority
dire hinge
I believe even re-application of rend in pandemic has a higher prio than slam
Correct
random wasp
arms can get more complex in aoe situations. but arms in st encounters seems simple enough
which is what im doing with the spec..so..
im outdpsing my fury with my arms so its enough for me
smoky kayak
I believe even re-application of rend in pandemic has a higher prio than slam
not globally, though there's a point where you can - simpler to just slam
dire hinge
Re-upping rend if it’s about to fall off (or in pandemic) would not fall under the “literally everything else is fulfilled” thing
warped elbow
What's the real stat prio for arms in 600+ilvl? different sites are giving me varied results
random wasp
sim
warped elbow
or should i just use simc and try to figure it out
dire hinge
What's the real stat prio for arms in 600+ilvl? different sites are giving me va...
Stat weights are dead, just sim yourself in Raidbots
random wasp
aiming for imaginary stats from imaginary gear is a waste of time
sim the gear you have
warped elbow
awesome, thanks
random wasp
and equip what sims higher
reef knoll
arms can get more complex in aoe situations. but arms in st encounters seems sim...
I read/understood rotation wrong and was spamming slam over MS……
random wasp
I read/understood rotation wrong and was spamming slam over MS……
ooh..
dire hinge
No worries there, that’ll be a nice dps gain
reef knoll
it's at the top of that first link ([Best Arms Warrior Opener](https://www.wowhe...
Hey, do you always mortal strike before skullsplitter?
Is that a good rule of thumb
dire hinge
In the opener yes, but your cooldowns will desynchronize after that. You’re almost going to be using Skullsplitter on cooldown, but it will get delayed slightly as you use other, more important abilities above it in the priority list
raven atlas
why MS before skullsplitter? doesnt bladestorm already swing MS during its duration?
rare kite
why MS before skullsplitter? doesnt bladestorm already swing MS during its durat...
Get it on cd
Bladestorm ms casts free ms's and do not put yours on cd
raven atlas
So ms cooldown > skullsplitter cd
somber dome
why do you guys choose arms over fury? im in doubt on what to play
vagrant ridge
better ST dps
and to mix keys up
after 50 stonevault + gb keys, I found arms refreshing to play
brisk slate
We like Arms. It also synergizes better with prot gear, so Arms is the traditional offspec for prot, and vice versa.
Aside of that, class fantasy and some varied gameplay reasons.
Or just because big stick goes bonk.
For me personally, it's the offspec angle - I main prot - and the big stick.
floral knoll
I find fury boring as hell
somber dome
some valid reasons for sure
raven atlas
why do you guys choose arms over fury? im in doubt on what to play
Arms is much better than fury rn in terms of ST dps, fury only excels on quick burst aoe. So depending on content you play you can choose 🙂
zenith warren
I'll just take neck not to run stonevault ever again
zenith warren
thorn pelican
imo its valuable to learn arms because u dont really have to learn fury
so u can do both for ur raid
hehe
minor gust
target cap change wont be a thing till 11.05
plucky fern
ok ty
arctic hearth
Starting to get some +9 and 10 done, what slayer builds do you guys like? Been enjoying colo alot even tho i sometimes die while demoing😅 happened 3-4 times in a week anyway
unborn oak
How is the Trinket "Skarmorak Shard" simmed? does it take the extra mastery from dying adds into account? Got the chance to take that as myth track, but Princess "Treacherous Transmitter" On-Use seems better even on hc on simms. But i wonder with all the adds encounters in raid, does the Skarmorak shard maybe get some more hidden value or is it negligible
raven atlas
target cap change wont be a thing till 11.05
and hopefully reverted 🙂
plucky fern
Starting to get some +9 and 10 done, what slayer builds do you guys like? Been e...
colossus is the only way
i gave up trying slayer in higher keys
dont see a single reason to
damage is not there and zero defences from hero talent really feels
arctic hearth
Boss dmg just feels so horrible as colo😭
Guess details will look a bit better with this weeks affix on boss😅
mossy blaze
Any ideas? this is the gear
i get that the 2h is by far the best pick giving 21k upgrade for fury but im missing out a lot on arms. Any ideas ?
thick kelp
idk maybe cloack into recraft bracers
u should get priod first boss weapon anw
by this week
thick kelp
Ring is good one
plucky fern
its okayge but you are not wearing it in bis gear
and you are mythic raiding so getting a fury OH shouldnt be a problem
so picking wep feels like a waste
and fury is dead soon anyway
raven atlas
Any ideas? this is the gear
whats the addon/wa called again that shows your enchants ilvl on char interfance?
unborn oak
BetterCharacterPanel i think
raven atlas
cheers
balmy kindle
Boss dmg just feels so horrible as colo😭
I think it's not that bad though, just got my 4 pcs this reset and it seems pretty decent
arctic hearth
I mean im dead middle between tank and second dps who usually is barely below nr 1
Ppl doing above 1 mill while im sometimes hitting 750 maybe 800 if there are some cleave idk
Sitting around 600k on dummy
Feels like tank dmg tbh
plucky fern
run massacre + ep, run strength of arms instead of dreadnaught, run sks
very minor aoe dps losses
but you will see the ST difference
its enormous
boreal quartz
very minor aoe dps losses
Ngl EP is kinda deadge
For keys
Gelly has been running blord seems to work
plucky fern
its only deadge in dawnbreaker
boreal quartz
boreal quartz
its only deadge in dawnbreaker
I mean on packs EP is turbouseless
manic stirrup
i read that as turbose less lmao
plucky fern
its honestly a lot of 'priority target dmg' situiations
where executes come in handy
boreal quartz
lavabenders in grim batol send their regards
Depends on mass or nah ig
plucky fern
also you want to sweeping+execute packs to get demolish back quicker
boreal quartz
Ig that's another funny choice you have per key
plucky fern
if ep is dead for you idk, probably we play spec differently
its a lot of uses for me so far in 10+
plucky fern
yeah if shits dying instantly its useless
for lower keys i'd just go fury anyway
press 3 buttons kill a pack
plucky fern
maybe maybe, i've been running thane fury tho its less downtime because you actually can do something outside of 1.5min cooldowns
boreal quartz
I should try more clappa
plucky fern
mostly for fun in lower keys, in any significant key im colossus arms