arms

[shadow ibex]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

im ahead of the fuckin game

[tired fox]

I'm just talking the number though. This is a new issue for me. @_@

Just kind of jarring

[minor gust]

I don't play with dmg numbers so doesnt bother me

[shadow ibex]

big fax

[tired fox]

Maybe I'll turn them off

Just never have needed to avoi dsomething like this lol

[nova marsh]

I play with damage numbers for the fun of it and it just...dosen't bug me at all

[tired fox]

What is the option to turn it off, not finding it

[shadow ibex]

requires addon p sure

[tired fox]

Oh whack

[shadow ibex]

idek how i turned mine off now tbh

i thought it was xct but i dont even have that installed it seems

[nova marsh]

Combat - Scrolling combat text for self

[tired fox]

Apparently can console it

https://us.battle.net/support/en/article/46205

[nova marsh]

this too

[acoustic island]

anyone know how to change gear to sim on raidbots? im trying to figure out what to take from my fault finally 🤣

[vital rune]

Tried all week to form a group for my 6 SoB

People really hate it huh

[nova marsh]

Yeah

It's bad

You'd have better chances just getting into another 6 or 7 and rerolling it tbh

siege is awful

[quick vale]

I've seen some of the top arms guys on RIO running with Jug and no cleave. Is it worth whirlwinding then when sweeping strikes is down?

[nova marsh]

...no cleave in keys?

[quick vale]

that's what RIO says

[nova marsh]

WW is booty checks

Like it's genuinely awful atm

[quick vale]

I guess maybe they went to raid

yeah that's what I figured

[nova marsh]

That's my guess and then just....forgot

[dire hinge]

now we just need Opportunist to disappear when it's consumed and not a half gcd later

[quick vale]

a lot of people at the top of the arms list on RIO are using warbreaker

I'm assuming it starts to make sense when the target count gets up high

[neon niche]

I bless ya'll vaults tomorrow

Good night

[frail basin]

does the accumulating gem crit effect works?

gnight

[shadow ibex]

i need more crit as colossus

need every auto to crit so i can actually press button in exe range

or just run with shaman i guess

[edgy solstice]

always run with shaman

[shadow ibex]

just looking at rage

auto

27

max cleave in mists

[alpine moth]

This dude is high

[nova marsh]

Give me a reason to actually push WW as arms

[alpine moth]

Nah I thought you meant windwalker

My b

[nova marsh]

Read above

Windwalker is fine

[teal fossil]

With cleave replacing ww there’s like no reason to support ww now

Especially cuz every ww mod will also support cleave

[arctic hearth]

What colo build are you running? Im doing 550-800 ish ST as colo (depending on boss) 613 ilvl with 619 wep

[quick vale]

is collateral damage really that good? It seems like buffing one cleave every 30 seconds or so is a bit expensive compared to what else the point could go into

[manic stirrup]

all the other options suck

[quick vale]

EB is a pretty big deal if you're running colossus

seems like, anyway

[smoky kayak]

it's quite a big buff, and EB's reset isn't that great considering Cleave's already fairly low CD and how many other abilities are competing for GCDs

I think most would enjoy Colossus a whole lot more if it actually used EB and Battlelord, but they're just not that strong

[quick vale]

I want to love colossus

prot colossus feels awful compared to thane, arms colossus feels weak compared to slayer in ST

like, super weak. Not slightly sub-optimal

[nova marsh]

It just feels inconsistant

The highs are close to slayer, the lows are....very low

[quick vale]

getting declined for +6s by someone 300 rating and 15ilvl below me

arms lyfe

[nova marsh]

brown class bad according to them

[quick vale]

until they need a tank

[nova marsh]

well yeah

because people will wait for tanks and healers until the heat death of the universe, meanwhile DPS are dime a dozen

[shadow ibex]

leaving a pull with like 14 CD stacks and ready to WB+demo the next pull

https://tenor.com/view/gambit-channing-tatum-wooimmamake-woo-wooimmamakeaname-gif-689747768459140328

[pallid umbra]

Whats are AOE rotation for arms Colossus? Do u start with Demolish before roar/Ravager etc. because of Dominance of the colossus?

[leaden oracle]

check a guide like wowhead for a more in depth explanation, but realistically demolish is like the last CD you send in the opener. TC > TR > Ava > Ravager > SS > CS > Cleave > Demo

[pallid umbra]

alrighty

ty

[balmy kindle]

Idk after running some builds here with Colo I am pretty convinced unless u are the ST specialist Colo is better on m+

[balmy kindle]

Dps life, need to make own key or play healers / tanks.

Alternatively, play aug

[nova marsh]

idk I just like how slayer feels

And having actual ST for once feels nice

it was like my biggest gripe with DF arms. in M+ your ST was crap

[balmy kindle]

I will get my 4 set this reset, personally think Colo 4 set ST is pretty passable

[nova marsh]

That's fair

I also just...like the execute crits, they're juicy af

And I don't really feel like I have actual survability issues as slayer either, but the furthest I've gone is a +7 due to...well yeah pugs, so that opinion dosen't really mean much

[balmy kindle]

Fair I am still going to 6 myself but been doing a ton of 5 NW this week, I am addicted to boneshaker shockwave

[nova marsh]

This is based

Boneshaker is amazing

[balmy kindle]

And it's pretty required since those thrash mobs with throw flesh

Just one tap any non tanks

Brown class bad then people cry about NW

[arctic hearth]

Y day was a good pug day, did 6, 7 and 9 SV. Day before failed 5/7 keys all +5 and 6..😂

And took forener to get invited to those 5/6s

[balmy kindle]

Melee dps life

[arctic hearth]

Yup, but colo too good to do anything else 😅

[thorn pelican]

earthquaker gang

i like dr-ing the stun even harder and making the guys go wheee

😎

[boreal quartz]

At 610 week 1 in a 10 i went thane fury from slayer cuz it was sussy

Going for more HP is legit

[bleak fog]

Do sweeping work on demolish?

[weak wave]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/trinket-tuning-incoming-on-the-weekly-reset-347178

Does this affect out bis list?

[thick kelp]

Works on the first two hits

[thick kelp]

Most likely no

[bleak fog]

worth hold demo for sweeping?

in m+

[astral yarrow]

it quite naturally lines up most of the time

[bleak fog]

Yeah

But found out that sometimes they dont (prob duo to me :D)

[thick kelp]

Hold for like max 6s

The first two hits dont really do damage anw

[bleak fog]

Just swaped for Arms as fury dont work for me atm

So gonna try out Arms some

[balmy kindle]

Fury has more burst cooldowns but in the middle your damage esp ST is like a wet noodle

If they get another 3% aura nerfs it's probably gg

[bleak fog]

Yeah, I have problem to keep up on the overall on fury with my team... Im not that far of with the rotation but dmgwise im low as hell..

Prob comes down to CD management and how we pull

But if you sit on you cd or they come up on a small pack.. GG 😛

[astral yarrow]

you just send it

[balmy kindle]

Yeah with fury you have to send every CDs , don't hold

I mean ODs on 25s cd

[astral yarrow]

same for arms

[arctic hearth]

Dont all specs play like that?

[astral yarrow]

to some degree

[arctic hearth]

Depending on what key lvl ofc

[astral yarrow]

obviously you arent sending 3mins on an irrelevant pack

while you can easily send OF BS as fury

[balmy kindle]

Classic better over use than underused cooldowns

[hazy flower]

ret moment

biggest cd is 30sec long

[astral yarrow]

Ashes is cool af tho

[arctic hearth]

I sent 1.5 min cds on trash before boss in SV +9, my friends complained about my boss dmg on that boss😭

[hazy flower]

generally ret is just designed that u send shit so seeing people hold their wings for anything in df was kinda funny

[frosty basin]

any video of somebody playing colossus in m+?

[thick kelp]

Rets holding their 1min wings

despair

[arctic hearth]

Haha

@manic stirrup i Watch this guy 👍

But he is US and I usually ony catch him live during my lunch break 😅

[manic stirrup]

havent played warrior in keys in a few days, am gearing my dk

[boreal quartz]

EVIL

[arctic hearth]

😭

[manic stirrup]

unholy very fun

[balmy kindle]

Brown class best class

[arctic hearth]

Well you can watch earlier streams @frosty basin

[balmy kindle]

Only rider is viable tho, sarilyns pretty iffy

[manic stirrup]

rider is the best hero spec

of all classes

and its not close

best fantasy addition to the game, possibly ever

[edgy solstice]

?

[boreal quartz]

What if cat ears in trading post

[bleak fog]

Is colossus the way to go in M+, I did copy paste from the big guys and this is what I have tried :P.

[manic stirrup]

switch dreadnaught for strength of arms and thats good

i think dreadnaught just isnt worth it

[arctic hearth]

How is UH in TWW? Bursty, sustain? Good on gigapulls like always?

[edgy solstice]

Knock up shockwave is way better imo. For pugs at least

[manic stirrup]

its unbelievably burst after like 6 globals of setup

[edgy solstice]

And I like SD over Massa but up to you

[boreal quartz]

Do you believe in bi for stonevault

[balmy kindle]

Thematically yeah but gameplay wise kind of passive though..

[edgy solstice]

Hell no

[manic stirrup]

if u want

not like u lose anything for it

[thorn pelican]

its kinda like a little extra healthstone

as a treat

[manic stirrup]

u lose like second wind which is pretty beans

[balmy kindle]

Absurd in aoe, decent ST with cooldowns. Scales better with big pulls though

[edgy solstice]

SV pulls are the biggest of any dungeon. WB stonks 📈

[manic stirrup]

or bounding stride

wait

did u mean bitter immunity

or blunt instruments

[edgy solstice]

Ohh bitter

[thorn pelican]

def bitter

[manic stirrup]

i assumed bitter bc of the curses

[thick kelp]

bitter immunity OM

[arctic hearth]

Does it take long to get the aoe dmg out? Im considering lock, ret or dk alt

[manic stirrup]

yes it takes a while

[balmy kindle]

Yeah it's quite global heavy

[manic stirrup]

and you need to be in high keys

or shit just dies too fast

[edgy solstice]

I actually don't know what bitter works on or not. Does it cleanse putrid and ricochet in siege?

[balmy kindle]

But once u get going you pump like crazy as UH

[arctic hearth]

Yeah figured. Do you just send frost in low keys then or ?

[manic stirrup]

disease poison curses

i dont spec frost but you should yeah

[balmy kindle]

Frost uses 1h so u need to decide, low levels doesn't matter but keystones yeaaa

[edgy solstice]

rip. both magic I think

[astral yarrow]

better make it a 6min cd with how op it is

[blazing timber]

Anyone know of a good arms video guide by any reputable creators?

[boreal quartz]

I meant blunt

Cuz of the 2t boss

[arctic hearth]

Check out guzu and do the oposite🙃

[boreal quartz]

Remember when it removed bleeds...

[thick kelp]

NinoMMO

[astral yarrow]

i dont know of many video guides as they tend to age poorly, but ninommo made a guide off of a written guide i've done

but that is even due an update

[manic stirrup]

yeah videos just go out of date too fast

so not many ppl make them

[blazing timber]

Sweet, sounds good. And yeah, I just wanted to quickly get an idea of priority whilst I listen and cook

[edgy solstice]

Oh ya machinists is good value ig but I don't think so. You only time SVs when your tank madlad pulls

[astral yarrow]

the 2 pulls you do at the end of machinist corridor into right side double or triple pull is

:glue

[molten horizon]

So MS must have 2 stack Martial Prowess ? (+Exe prec. + Lethal blows)?

why in left guide OP > MS when we not have 2 stack of Martial Prowess? And in right guide MS must have only Exe.P. + Lethal Blows

[edgy solstice]

Idk. You can safely ignore MP tho. Just use for opportunist and float rage

[brisk slate]

It's written that if all three conditions apply, though, not just martial prowess.

[molten horizon]

and we must use Exe even if we had 2 exe prec. but not have 2 stack of Lethal Blows, and MS is NO on CD?

[brisk slate]

Yes, since baseline MS hits like a wet noodle.

[molten horizon]

so wich guide are better?)

[brisk slate]

Dunno where you got them from, but I'd go with the wowhead one.

[thick kelp]

both tell the same thing

[edgy solstice]

Left is maxroll

[molten horizon]

https://maxroll.gg/wow/class-guides/arms-warrior-raid-guide#rotation-header

[molten horizon]

no

[thick kelp]

yes

MS at 2ep 2lb
op with oppo x rage <2mp

??

[edgy solstice]

They have ms and op swapped in the screens

[brisk slate]

They're formulated a bit different, but they do.

[molten horizon]

Wowhead guide says that we use MS when we have 2 stack Lethal and 2 Stack Exe.P. and then OP even if we have no 2 stack Martial Prowess

[edgy solstice]

But Ms with 2 and 2 >

[molten horizon]

so?)

[thick kelp]

it literally says in wowhead guide

<2 stack of MP

did u not read past the first line

[edgy solstice]

A lot of top logs, people aren't even waiting for x2 LB but prob muscle memory from DF

[thick kelp]

Overpower with Opportunist, rage less than 80 AND less than 2 stacks of MP

[manic stirrup]

its literally the same thing

[molten horizon]

but 2 stack MP under MS with 2 stack Lethal and Exe.P. in wowhead

[thick kelp]

Yes because MP dont matter

and in maxroll guide it says

if ALL applies

all 3 conditions

[molten horizon]

but in left guide is upper

[thick kelp]

https://imgur.com/WZlIezq

[manic stirrup]

i dont even think its possible for all 3 overpower conditions to be met and ms to also have conditions met

[edgy solstice]

Again, you can just ignore MP tbh. Don't give it head space

[molten horizon]

Maxroll says that we should wait for all 3 conditions

[manic stirrup]

well tis possible but like

[molten horizon]

wowhead says that we can not wait 2 stack MP

and use MS

[thick kelp]

You do not have 2x MP = Less than 2x MP

its the same fucking line

man

different words

same meaning

press ms with 2x ep 2x lb

OP otherwise

execute when above 80 rage

and no opportunist up

sks on cd for rage

[edgy solstice]

Funny tho that a bunch of top 100s are still just exe exe op ms repeat

[thick kelp]

DF muscle memory

but its dps loss

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick kelp]

What r u trying to say here

[molten horizon]

Maxroll = ALL so with 2 MP stack > MS

and then only MS

[thick kelp]

it says

if you do not have 2x MP

do not

not

no 2xmp

[molten horizon]

Mb im stupid, but i no understand)

[thick kelp]

np, common in skyhold

Everyone here is

[edgy solstice]

Same

[molten horizon]

6 is upper than 7 right?) so in wowhead says that MS use 2stack Exe.P. and 2 Lethal Blows and can ignore stacks MP. But Maxrolls says before i use MS i must have 2 stack MP too

[edgy solstice]

Yes but in result, there's no difference really.

[molten horizon]

So this is a completely different matter. @thick kelp says that both guides the same

but its not )

[thick kelp]

They both tell the same thing

[manic stirrup]

its the same thing man

[edgy solstice]

Whether you wait for 2x MP or not, it is the same thing

[austere willow]

Why do we use sweeping strikes before BS now? Previously we used it after?

[wary dune]

I think he’s trying to say both guides say the same conditions but the priority list is different

[manic stirrup]

its functionally the same

[austere willow]

So BS utilize SS?

[edgy solstice]

No

They nerfed that

[manic stirrup]

i meant to reply to andros

[wary dune]

Yep but that’s probably why he’s confused

[molten horizon]

YES

[molten horizon]

yes

mb in dps meter its no matter, but for me its have matter

i must do it perfectly )

[wary dune]

Okay. I’ll try and explain.

The priority is the same. Because the conditions to press overpower imply you don’t have the other conditions for MS

And vise versa

I don’t know if that makes any sense.

[molten horizon]

so i must have only 2 stack Exe.P. + 2 stack Lethal Blows and then use MS

[summer shore]

is anyone using colossus in m+

[molten horizon]

dont wait for 2 stack MP

right?

[edgy solstice]

The maxroll guide is what's confusing then

Point is

[manic stirrup]

yes

[edgy solstice]

If you have 2x EP and 2x LB, you hit MS.

[wary dune]

You will get them anyway because 2 lethal blows on MS means you got 2 tactician procs.

[edgy solstice]

If you do not, you hit OP.

[summer shore]

@manic stirrup do you use SoA or DN

[wary dune]

Or to refresh rend

[edgy solstice]

Yeah ofc

SoA > DN

[manic stirrup]

soa

[wary dune]

Yeah sorry I’m shit at explaining my thoughts

[summer shore]

BI + SoA right?

[edgy solstice]

WB always for me but blunt's ok

[summer shore]

I would love to use WB but ST damage is a shithole

[edgy solstice]

If tanks are pulling small, like a grimmy b, I rather just play slayer anyway

Colo is for big pulls, big dam

[arctic hearth]

What keys are you doing @edgy solstice ?

[edgy solstice]

11s rn. Tried a couple 12s but hard to find in lfg

[atomic mountain]

why does noone wanna have a arms in his 7-10+ geys? -sad-

[arctic hearth]

Ic yeah then slayer might feel good idk feels meh i. +7s and below

[molten horizon]

situations when i have 2 lethal, 2 Exe.P. but 1 MP so?

[manic stirrup]

ms youre over 80 rage

[wary dune]

^

[manic stirrup]

the situation youre wondering about is so insanely hyper specific

[molten horizon]

ignore my rage now and CD bursts

[wary dune]

And this should very rarely happen

[molten horizon]

its for example only

[manic stirrup]

mortal strike

[wary dune]

You would Ms then press OP straight after

[arctic hearth]

What WA is that and where does cleave go when you have it?

[edgy solstice]

Ya it's ass in lower keys

[wary dune]

Also how do you have 2x LB but only 1 Mp stack doesn’t that mean you wasted a tactician proc?

Oh it’s just procced mb

[arctic hearth]

You are playing jugg in 10+ ye?

[edgy solstice]

Ya

[atomic mountain]

yes. cuaase you will be the boss killer

[arctic hearth]

So BI then im assuming

[molten horizon]

real situation

[edgy solstice]

Jugg or Colo depending on dungeon/tank

Ya blunt for slayer always

[normal marsh]

Youre only meant to spend tactician below 80 rage no?

[arctic hearth]

But the MM hunter is alrdy filling the AoE and boss killer role 😅

And or the ret/mage

Kind of joking but true in my 6-7s

[wary dune]

Press skullsplitter, then MS

[edgy solstice]

You can still spike 4 mil ish aoe with jugg

[kind stag]

Ret st aint it

[molten horizon]

i rly all time have no rage starve problem

[edgy solstice]

Just misses all the cleave life support talents afterwards

[arctic hearth]

Not with my gear💀 613overall, 619!wep

[edgy solstice]

Ya my wep still 619 too. Uninstalling if my vault is ass again

[arctic hearth]

Could have taken hc mace from last vault, but took crit/vers neck with socket 616 ilvl

Crafting wep this week if I can get enough +9s done

[molten horizon]

@wary dune can I completely trust the guide in Wowhead?

or it have some minmaxes?

[arctic hearth]

Havent seen them do bad ST ever tbh. Only done 1 +9 tho

[wary dune]

The prio lists are up to date. And in your situation I would probably send an overpower to avoid wasting a tact proc on hitting MS and the small bonus of the 2nd MP stack, but this will rarely happen.

And it’s just what I would do

[molten horizon]

situations like that not described in guide :)

there no minmax column (

[normal marsh]

this situation is described in the execute guide no?

[molten horizon]

Yeah, but Maxroll says i need wait 2nd MP proc, Wowhead says dont waiting and use MS (ignore Rage on screen)

[edgy solstice]

There's always gonna be some situations that can't be covered or won't mentioned. You still just follow the prio.

[normal marsh]

I mean wowhead was written by Archi, and I'd trust that man with my first born child

[molten horizon]

and Maxroll was written by Revvez

if its true

[astral yarrow]

Revvez put a ton of work into it

[raw dagger]

have u tried warbreaker with slayer for m+?

[molten horizon]

so whom i must trust?)

[normal marsh]

I always heard that maxroll guides were pretty much fluff from ghost writer vibes, but who knows for sure

[molten horizon]

yeah

[wary dune]

I do tend to trust wowhead more. But I usually read both and decide from there.

[plucky fern]

yes its horrible in slayer
you can justify warbreaker in colossus if you want more aoe but for slayer blunt instruments are just better on both aoe and st

[astral yarrow]

I mean, i have it from Echos other warrior so take from that what you will

[wary dune]

The maxroll guide saying to press MS on2xEP without the tier set is also wrong

[astral yarrow]

not necessarily

[edgy solstice]

Well maxroll had the whole AI debacle and I already don't trust their stuff from D4/LE so I stay away

[astral yarrow]

Revvez does his own APL seperately from ours

[wary dune]

Yeah. Atleast when I simmed my gear before 4pc there was no MS till a rend refresh so

[astral yarrow]

Which is correct until you have 4pc

MS just not that good

[wary dune]

Exactly, which contradicts revezz guide

[astral yarrow]

Revvez guide assumes 4pc and playing slayer 🤷‍♀️

Its even stated, so idk man

[wary dune]

Yeah but he’s even put a small grey note on his execute prio

Press MS with 2xEP and 2xLB, if you don’t have tier. Just send with 2xEP

[minor gust]

he prob talking about this

[wary dune]

Which is how I understood it, but that’s wrong

[manic stirrup]

that’s like a 0.1% change

just get the 4p

[minor gust]

but yeah doesnt really matter your gonna get 4pc

[molten horizon]

From simc

[edgy solstice]

Well really the whole convo is about what has priority, OP with all conditions met or MS with all conditions met.

[minor gust]

so who cares what you do before you get it

[thick kelp]

bro this morning is not a good morning

[astral yarrow]

try swapping those 2 lines and watch the difference

[astral yarrow]

#fury made its way to arms after nerfs man

[wary dune]

LOL

Fair enough tbh

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[summer shore]

anyone tried spear

with colossus

[edgy solstice]

Not yet

I might give it a few keys at some point but eh. Roar too good. Sks too good.

[plucky fern]

I tried simming spear builds and they are all very bad

Even after roar nerf i doubt that spear will be viable in arms

[raw dagger]

i m starting to enjoy warbreaker in m+

😮

[summer shore]

it's fun though

10 stacks + avatar + torment + wb + spear + ss + demolish

[plucky fern]

if you want to play some spear try thane fury with it

had good results and way more fun than regular fury

[plucky fern]

yeah 1.5min of cooldowns just to not see a demolish crit and uninstall the game

spear is just not good if you rely on a few big hits

it has way more realisting value in fury where you deal separate instances of damage 10 times a second

so your crit on avg is stable

and you get value from spear

[astral yarrow]

it averages out regardless

sometimes luky

sometime unluki

[plucky fern]

if you want to keep track of 'average per day' then yeah

but i dont want to deplete the key because my demolish never crit and my overall damage is 100k lower

than it should be

arms is casino enough already dont make it even more casino

pick stable talents whenever possible, will provide better results overall

[astral yarrow]

overall no

sometimes yes

[plucky fern]

well anyway this discussion is pointless

spear sims 3% worse

so who cares

[astral yarrow]

but dopamine bro

[edgy solstice]

The dopamine of pug tanks not grouping shit up for spear

[plucky fern]

at least they will not be able to move pack from your demolish because spear will not let them to

so maybe bis for pugs

[tranquil sundial]

did DR used to snapshot the bleed dmg with your buffs?

can swear we used to charge rend ava smash DR

Now we charge rend DR ava smash

[astral yarrow]

snapshotting is (mostly) dead

has been since BFA

[tranquil sundial]

oh

[astral yarrow]

even legion probably

[thick kelp]

Snapshot DW

[tranquil sundial]

but it was just old habits back then or smth?

[astral yarrow]

theres still a few random ones like feral druid and deep wounds(irrelevant)

TR initial damage not that giga

[tranquil sundial]

ahh

ah yeah its thunderous roar now 🥲

[astral yarrow]

yeah took me a while as well

[tranquil sundial]

any way to influence mandate crit? Thats dead too right, I think I know that?

[orchid canyon]

I have a question about talents on m+, because I see that for Slayer there are two types Heavy Multitarget and Priority Juggernaut and the one we play depends on dungeon/affixes or maybe one of them makes better dps anyway

[tranquil sundial]

Tbh I think colossus is just better

Build Gelly runs

it actually does decent ST, awesome AoE & lower target cleave

does it all

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBAOVVEFVRFlUEFQVQCEFEVVVUBB

[thick kelp]

decent st!

Crazy !

[astral yarrow]

Thats kinda the choice for arms. You either pick good aoe and trash ST or good ST and very little aoe

Colossus is the aoe choice while slayer is the more ST oriented choice

[tranquil sundial]

For the class it is

The truth of the matter is if you wanna do everything, play frost dk

I think colossus offers the most balanced package

Enhancer and frost dk are just better melee classes than warrior this tier 🤷‍♂️

[neon jasper]

Damn that's some cracked blood st

[quick vale]

I jsut tested fatality in a delve

less damage than healer brann

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[arctic hearth]

Wut he runs that?

No arterial bleed with DN? ST must be giga meh no? (Havent simmed)

[astral yarrow]

it is

[manic river]

Wow haven't seen anyone taking dance of death

Is it really useful at all in high keys? the pulls are beefy

[cyan sage]

I have actually never ran that build 😅

[quick vale]

Not gonna lie. I was looking at your RIO a few times over the last week or so and thinking you were putting up weird builds on purpose

[plucky fern]

what is that abomination

dance of death, 0 points in deft

[manic river]

Oh damn hi Gelly

DoD is a dead talent honestly, should get reworked

[primal rover]

Hey guys, does anyone have a WA to track 4set?

[astral talon]

What do you mean, i got your build from raider.io

Smh I've been lied to

And I still pulled decent numbers xD

[near flower]

hey guys does anyone have a specific build for Zekvir lvl ?? or raid build is enough ?

[primal rover]

I just did zekvir yesterday

Lemme log and share.

[near flower]

thanks 🙂

[plucky fern]

if you want to take builds from raider.io, dont take the build from profile page. open recent runs and check builds that were actually ran

not just random build that was last active when character was scanned

[latent moss]

rio is tweaking

if u look at the log

different talents

[primal rover]

CcEAmidFBOBFf5oKuZ7r/WeW7AAzYmZMzMzsZZZZmBAAAADmGmZYbYGYGjZmBzMMwwMMAAAAAAA4BGzyMzMACMW2GYBMgZYCZYwG

Make sure you swap out Fueled by Violence to Ignore Pain (if it helps you)
Make use of Relentless Pursuit / Bladestorm to clear the debuff
Only kick the heal.

[plucky fern]

i'd pick both fueled and ip for zekvir, feels safer

can lose 1% dps doesnt matter too much

[primal rover]

I played it with IP only, used bran as healer, had rank 1 curios. But i see your point

[near flower]

thank you i'll try it

[tranquil sundial]

yikes indeed, meant to link https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBAOVVEFVRFlUUFQFQCEFEVVVUBB

This is it no?

[plucky fern]

yeah looks like standart colossus build, just not sure about 1/2 deft

is one point in bloodborne really better gelly?

[cyan sage]

Odd, I might have done some delve or something and it kept the talents.. albeit I run alot of odd builds - its impossible to sim for m+ and im just trying to have fun with it
I think not alot of people played colossus over slayer in keys but for me colossus just works better however I find execute is somewhat useless most of the time especially if you play keys where the current protagonist of tww (frost dk) pops his cds close to execute phase so most of ur damage is lost from EP anyway.
for me these two builds has worked the best:
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBAOVVEFVRFlUUFQFQCEFEVVVUBB

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/colossus/DAOAUVFRFQhUVKSUUBANVVEFVRFlQkVQFCEFEVVVUBB

im just experimenting alot as of now we are not depleting keys because of damage yet, for me slayer is just performing so so much worse in every key.
I bet some of the bigger warriors will soon take a look at arms and find the go to build its still early on so

[plucky fern]

its true that slayer arms performs just way worsse

every time i gave it a try i was disappointed

[arctic hearth]

Lol okai, thanks for clearing that up! 👍

[astral talon]

Thanks, will take a look

[manic river]

Ty ty

[wanton sierra]

i think its true man, i tried to play an arakara 8 as slayer, i felt so much worse, i thhink i got the wrong buiuld

[wanton sierra]

hey gellyfisk, ty i got your WA, very good... would you rather massacre or battlelord? (i quite liked str in arms, overpower slaps)

oh i see, with battlelord you remove EP... idk, i feel my aoe is good but i lack st... thats why im runnin str in arms and massacre

[near flower]

I suppose im fked if Brann doesnt dispel the dot ?

[primal rover]

You dispell it yourself every time.

You bladestorm the first, then you leap - Charge 2nd

Bladestorm 3rd

etc

[near flower]

Ah yeah I see okay

[plucky fern]

does avatar dispel it also?

or just bladestorm

[arctic hearth]

Read or heard Ava dispels it also

I think in this channel but dont remember

[cyan sage]

after a 6 min boss fight on Rasha'nan in Dawnbreaker and not being able to press execute once you will see abit of value in battlelord

[cyan sage]

Seems like I got exposed for it here, ur overall will tank

[manic river]

Party laughing at Collosus Arms for boss damage, then overall drops, not laughing now

[wanton sierra]

true, dawnbreaker battlelord noted

[boreal quartz]

How do you feel about porting out and in for slayer +eb/blord

Specifically for last boss or do you chain it from the pack

[plucky fern]

i had some decent ST with colossus if i take blunt intstruments+soa+massacre
but yeah overall dps suffers quite a lot

[boreal quartz]

SoA baseline IMO

[latent moss]

finishing blows baseline

[boreal quartz]

CT baseline when...

[cyan sage]

might be the play tbh

[latent moss]

never

[boreal quartz]

Similar for wake id reckon - raidbuild for last 2

But that's cringe

[latent moss]

u will rage starve forever in execute without

ct and skyfury

[boreal quartz]

Man i love shaman buff

Glad it's on resto too

[plucky fern]

yeah skyfury kinda carries colossus

[latent moss]

u need both

for a smooth rotation

which is giga cringe

[boreal quartz]

Smooth brain is so much easier to obtain

Simply demolish your head with a wall

[arctic hearth]

Whats ct?

[boreal quartz]

Critical thinking

Execute rage refund

[arctic hearth]

We dont do that here

We bonk

[latent moss]

cba

got automoded

coc torture

[boreal quartz]

You cant without the talent

[arctic hearth]

😂

[latent moss]

you can bonk

with slam

[wanton sierra]

man but wabreaker make your cleave and demo slaps

[latent moss]

xdddddddddddd

and overpower xddddd

[plucky fern]

idk both of them feel great in certain situations, i still cant decide what feels better

[latent arrow]

Is there a video guide on in depth colossus in m+?

[astral talon]

Warbreaker is dopamine rush

[latent arrow]

Do we try to line up the giga cleave or just send everything on CD?

[boreal quartz]

CD on CD but it does allign generally

Dont Demo into wb obv

[latent arrow]

I'm talking about delaying stuff so you get all the multiplier from the the collateral cleave

Like ss then naked rotation until it's about to end, then you pop everything send ravage and send the 7 million cleave

[plucky fern]

yes you try to maximize value of collateral

you charge->clap->roar->warbreaker then ss

its honestly all about maximizing your aoe burst every 30 seconds in m+

[latent arrow]

Is it there no-one who explains it neatly in a video? 😅

[astral yarrow]

you'd usually try to carry collataral buff over from previous pack

[latent arrow]

Rogue enha and frost have that type of video available

[plucky fern]

nah there are no content creators who play colossus

they are all fury enjoyers

[latent arrow]

Unlucky

[plucky fern]

(at least untill the patch drops with odyns nerf)

then they will come there for salvation

in the damned arms channel

[latent arrow]

I thought about that, but usually people move slow and let healer drink and everything drops including demo stacks 😢

[cyan sage]

end a pack with 14 stacks of collataral, have ravager ready, warbreaker ready and 10 stacks of colossus might - no slayer build will give you that dopamine

[plucky fern]

you missed die by the sword in this rotation

[latent arrow]

And last step release spirit

[plucky fern]

because its 90% that you take threat and die after hitting 50mil damage on a pack in 2 gcd

i died too many times like that

prenerf odyns fury flashbacks

[wanton sierra]

but now 14 stacks? i get around 10 ish... i thihnk its my poor haste.. 13%

[cyan sage]

hmm, i often have 14 without blademaster even

[thick kelp]

No flame ofc just laughing how bad arms is : D

[wanton sierra]

how abouut blademaster tormen and remove uuproar, i feel two colateral stacked uup might vallue

[manic river]

Sad

[manic river]

I normally play with BT

[plucky fern]

gellyfisk needs to become our colossus jesus

and start a youtube

[thick kelp]

Blademaster is a big ST loss

but it can deal more aoe damage

[plucky fern]

yeah blademasters is bait

im not even sure if its better in aoe

[manic river]

So just more roar?

[plucky fern]

sim tells that it is better but i doubt it

[thick kelp]

Well it is

it lets FoB hit more/longer

[plucky fern]

yes you cant go worng with uproar

[thick kelp]

But I would personally never play it now that you perma have forti / tyra

[shadow ibex]

Blademaster needs to give some st

[thick kelp]

Needs a rework

They really cant give it any reasonable st function

without breaking it in pure st raid

[wanton sierra]

lol i just entered an 10 NW to get vault, our dh tank insta died... fisrt pack

[plucky fern]

they should bring back old blademasters but instead of bladestorm it throws a ravager

[shadow ibex]

They'll just nerf tr aoe to hell

That would be their solution

[wanton sierra]

yes i quite like that... or more time on SS 8 sec is kinda low

proc an SS, not 8 sec SS

[plucky fern]

on beta it was 15 seconds

still felt not worth it

[wanton sierra]

imagine colatteral stacks

[plucky fern]

yeah it was silly

but not that great damage wise, its just one large cleave each 90 seconds after all

and still 0 st

so w/e

[wanton sierra]

how about: blademaster torment: when you Avatar you aways mortal combo, or cleave combo (mortal combo from sl you had an chance to proc another mortal strike)

within its duration

[plucky fern]

probably way too overpowered to become true

[astral yarrow]

as long as the sound and animation follows but im down

avatar is already a really powerful cooldown

[wanton sierra]

you press like 4 times mortal strike on avatar duration, it would be like 8 ms

[plucky fern]

st part is fine

but the cleave part

[wanton sierra]

nasty yes, i agree xD

[plucky fern]

imagine 15 stacks cleave repeating 4 times

2 from combo and 2 from talent

ridiculous

[wanton sierra]

i want us to be OP

to slap the dk frosty lil butt

buut hhonestly, i think old blademaster torment would be quite nice... an bladestorm proc would help our aoe, and ouur ST (unhihnged) and if rav talented, an rav proc... why not

[untold trench]

I am sure you get your monkey paw wish

[clear rain]

a question

cant we just reapply rend with tunder clap?

solo target

[wanton sierra]

yes, but tc dam is lower than rend dam

hey our warlords torment got nerfed? we get less rage now? i didnt even noticed

[quaint otter]

way less..

[fickle lotus]

How do we play ideally the Webs on ANsurek ? Do you Guys Odyn into BS ?

[thick kelp]

Spell reflect odyns bs

[quaint otter]

#fury

[wanton sierra]

i demolish odyns ppl

[fickle lotus]

SR ? O_o

Oh wrong Channel

[thick kelp]

Spell reflect makes so you dont get rooted

[fickle lotus]

Ah okay.

[wanton sierra]

oh i thought u was spell reflectin furys spells xD

[fickle lotus]

So just SR before casts end ?

[thick kelp]

Yeah

[fickle lotus]

THX

[neon niche]

why are we talking furynamese in this channel? I'm itching all over just from reading 'odyn'

[thick kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[inner wasp]

this is rehab channel

no mention of the odyns spec

[untold trench]

Cause you arms lads want to be fury, you just not being honest with yourselves

[left notch]

big sword

[tepid prawn]

Looking for recommendations for arms guide video, need to help a guildie do more damagesss

[thick kelp]

Read the written guides

they r more up to date

[tepid prawn]

Ight ty

[neon niche]

#dps-faq

[gaunt matrix]

sorry if this is a common Q, just wondering as i cant see it anywhere is arms performing competiviley to fury now or? dont know if theres a general consensus on it

[neon niche]

its situational
warrior content creators such as biz jeventes and critcake are still playing fury on m+ high keys
as for most of nerubar palace arms is the default choice

in the end u pick what u feel more comfortable with

[subtle ravine]

With the target caps coming in, is Arms looking more competitive on Ansurek specifically? Last I checked Fury outdamaged us by 27% (looking at Median and Upper Quartile Heroic) due to their burst AoE on adds

[neon niche]

for queen fury performs better atm not sure post nerf if it will change anything

[smoky kayak]

Fury's burst will go down, but it's still going to be better for bursting adds and more survivable than Arms

how much that might matter a month, two, or however long it takes a specific group to get there remains to be seen though - between gear increases, raid buffs, and/or whatever hotfixes they might make, it could look very different than the WF

[exotic patio]

any1 who have a good macro mod for 1 keybind with two talents: storm bolt/intervene?

[cold narwhal]

Whenever I look at Colo and think to myself wow this might actually be kinda good I have fun for 2 pulls and then reach a boss feel horrible pain leave the key and repeat this every 10ish days

[smoky kayak]

same format as the other talent swap macros found here #1237307732705415228 message

just change the known:XXXXX

[shadow ibex]

Gotta charge weave to do anything in exe

Or play with shaman

[fast wharf]

id be careful with a one keybind macro that includes intervene and an offensive ability. write it properly or you will end casting intervene on the tank by accident

[balmy sparrow]

i've a question , is it normal that in single target i always overcap rage?

i mean, i cant spend more than i earn rage

[boreal quartz]

Yep

Happens

[balmy sparrow]

i was used to downtime as arms w , it felt weird to have too much

[boreal quartz]

It was the same in df

Gcd locked since end sl tbh

[earnest owl]

Hey, anyone tested how much worse colossus is than slayer on single target - mostly for +10 dungeons ? Because the +10 tyrannical bosses are really - really - hard for me.

[livid cloak]

Just Sim the different builds

[inner wasp]

so do we just play st build for all the fights in raid

since sweeping strikes exists

[latent moss]

we play st build cause we cant aoe

well

we can

with bladestorm and troar but

you play arms to deal boss damage

not add damage

[inner wasp]

what abt m+..

[latent moss]

in m+ u play aoe damage

talents*

brainrot is consuming me

[clear rain]

why do we use avatar after roar?

avatar gives u damage no?

[stone saffron]

initial roar damage isnt worth the avatar gcd

[leaden oracle]

yes but troar is a bleed and you dont really care about the immediate burst it gives when you press it

[clear rain]

i see

[tiny dock]

would it be bad to macro together CS and ava

[sly venture]

Maybe on opener?

[thick kelp]

Yes

[nova marsh]

le sigh

Why does maint get extended for NA evrey week lmao

[tacit crystal]

bad infrastructure

?

what else could it be

[nova marsh]

How does it get worse?

Like I can't recall a streak of blizz extending maint like this

[tacit crystal]

people who wrote the code arent there anymore

[nova marsh]

This is also true

[tacit crystal]

so likely any change is a shot in the dark

with unintended changes

[nova marsh]

It wouldn't surprise me if anyone at blizz doing maint also experienced layoffs

[tacit crystal]

too many levels of abstraction over 20 years with prob hundreds of devs

[nova marsh]

I mean ig the upside is I get to play SM2 some more

Man this shit is fun

[pliant jetty]

Colossus is the way to go in m+ now?

[nova marsh]

They're close

in keys

Play what you like

[little nova]

Just a quick one, WoWhead says the haste mastery gloves on broodtwister in raid is "overall bis" any reason why you'd use them instead of stonevault gloves (crit/haste)?

[nova marsh]

Don't listen to BiS lists

Sims are a VASTLY better way to get an idea of upgrades

The only ones that matter are trinkets to aim for really 🤷

[little nova]

I slightly gotta for guilds lootcouncil tho 😅 There's a "bis" button

[grand idol]

Also don't take stat recommendations as always best. Stat impact fluctuates as you get more of other stats.

[nova marsh]

Well for anything aside from trinkets and cantrip items it....dosen't really matter

[nova marsh]

This. So much this

[little nova]

Fair, just also wouldn't wanna yoink stuff from people if I can get my best elsewhere

And yeah I get that stats are gonna have an effect on other stats, but I mean if you had everything desired to be absolute top, surely there'd be a "bis"?

[inner wasp]

should i still slight hold for adds

that's just smart to do innit

[nova marsh]

Read the disclaimer at the top of the BiS section on wowhead

because of sims and the sheer amount of gear sources in the game, it's extremely difficult to actually pin point DEFINITIVE bis

[little nova]

Fair

[nova marsh]

I can say some items that have special effects like trinkets or cantrips are BiS

[latent moss]

nah

just send

[nova marsh]

And also, truthfully....kinda pointless

[latent moss]

fuck padding as arms

[inner wasp]

but my parse

how will i get into good mythic guild...

[nova marsh]

Fuck your parse

be ethical

...I need a wild life preservation poster for adds now, that sounds hilarious

[inner wasp]

ok i will hit the boss very hard

zug zug

[nova marsh]

Imagine mythic guilds

Thinking a good parse for padding is a sign of a good player

[latent moss]

boss dam parse

[inner wasp]

thats a thing lol?

[nova marsh]

The only parse that mattters

Be maxium ethical

[inner wasp]

oh...

what do i do now

[nova marsh]

play another game for another 2 hours

[burnt gust]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[nova marsh]

Hilarious cuz I'm playing Space marine 2

[inner wasp]

so if i do boss dmg now

if other ppl have adds handled do i just not even bother switching targets

[nova marsh]

Yes

This is the only way to play arms

[inner wasp]

i zug boss

zug zug

[nova marsh]

If they tell you to swap

Tell ur team they're trash at adds

I'm joking, but I mean....if they're by the boss you should at least sweep em

[frank chasm]

Yo, havnt played arms for long, i sit at 30% crit and 20% haste and im overflowed with rage considering how low slam is (and i press MS when i should), is it ok above 35% HP?

[inner wasp]

rage is cosmetic above 35%

[nova marsh]

Follow prio fuck your rage bar

Rage management on arms is a myth

[burnt gust]

Tell them to submit tickets to blizz to stop nuking fury if they want add warriors

[frank chasm]

Ok ty, reading wowhead 'dont overcap rage' stumbles me

[nova marsh]

[nova marsh]

Used to be a prio of the spec

Now just...isn't cuz it's a waste of time trying not to overcap. Just don't use rage generators above like 85 rage or so

[dim basalt]

One thing Im missing from the guide, do we just use CS on cd?

[nova marsh]

All CDs should be sent on CD

[dim basalt]

aye ty

Apparently I have to raid with my warrior and learn the rotation within an hour now

But doesnt seem that hard

[icy magnet]

so can i go back to arms now? XD

[burnt gust]

I prefer to start with my face on the left of the keyboard and roll to the right, but I'm right handed so apply to yourself as needed.

[nova marsh]

Brother you can always play arms

Arms is here for you

here for the ethical gamers seeking shelter in a storm of padders

[boreal quartz]

Press ms when it's up, press CDs when up

[dim basalt]

yup thats what Im getting from the guide and just from testing my dps on dummies Im doing my sim dps

Pretty chill spec ngl

[burnt gust]

The arms channel fits like an old shoe. Fury is trendy crocs.

[nova marsh]

Fury is the gen z trend

They're just about zoomin evreywhere

[boreal quartz]

Yepp

[inner wasp]

i miss my crocs

:(

[quick edge]

Why do we wait for two stacks of didn't death before execute in st Slayer?

Sudden

[inner wasp]

to play around juggernaut

dont spend SD early else you risk starving urself of procs and dropping juggernaut

but if u have 2 stacks, then ur just wasting any extra

so send

[manic river]

Guys I'm really having troubles with my Arms warr in ST for raiding, IDK what happens but my damage stays so low after the initial pull, I'm triying saving some CDs to align CS and Ava and everything but I cannot improve my damage for some reason

[quick edge]

Figured thanks!

[burnt gust]

we all do buddy, we all do

[manic river]

I know I still lack more celerity but there must be something else

[neon niche]

I bless your vault yall
Thank me later

[inner wasp]

is game up or is this pre-emptive blessing

[neon niche]

its up

sike

[inner wasp]

u fucker i just launched it when u said that

[quick edge]

Someone ban them

[manic river]

I'm getting stuck with 650k damage many times and I don't know what to do

[neon niche]

st
Opener/cd usage charge > rend > roar > cs + avatar > bladestorm
prio: rend up
execute
mortal strike
overpower
skullsplitter
slam

execute phase:
execute + execute + execute + execute
skullsplitter
bladestorm / mortal strike to refresh rend
overpower to not rage starve

[inner wasp]

that kinda leaves out a lot of nuance

[cosmic shale]

With 4pc, op has more prio than you’re lending on there

In certain and frequent situations

[neon niche]

it does take prio
but my guy is doing 650k st
learning the basics he will take over that dam

[manic river]

I'm doing everything, I look at the rotation every day

[neon niche]

I can take a look at ur logs if u have one

[manic river]

I'm tried delaying some cds more so they align and the burst it's bigger

My parse is still shit

I have no idea what I'm doing so wrong

[mint patio]

I always send, I only hold cds to align if it’s 2-3s max.

[manic river]

And how much damage are you getting?

[neon niche]

Use ‍Thunderous Roar on cooldown.
Use ‍Avatar if the ‍Colossus Smash debuff is active on your target or if ‍Colossus Smash has less than 5 seconds remaining cooldown.
Use ‍Colossus Smash on cooldown.
Use ‍Bladestorm if the remaining cooldown of ‍Colossus Smash is greater than the duration of ‍Bladestorm (4 GCDs).

[mint patio]

I do ok, nothing spectacular. More than 650k though. I think I’m 613 ilvl currently. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/thrall/loxxil

[manic river]

I don't get it : /

[mint patio]

Whenever that happens to me with my dos, like what is going on. It’s because I was in defensive stance on accident. Might check that.

[manic river]

Is there a way to see the sequence you usually follow with a pull?

Also how much haste vs crit are you guys usually using

[mint patio]

I always just sim everything, but I think I’m currently like 23 crit and 26 haste.

[sleek fox]

That's something i've been grappling with the past week.

Everywhere: Crit > Haste
Top players: Haste > Crit (2:1 ratio)

[inner wasp]

in aoe holding avatar for smash is gonna be p pointless right? asking for myself

since we dont use warbreaker

[manic river]

Well mantaining some extra crit is good if your are going colosus on m+

[steep wedge]

my understanding youre supposed to OP > MS on procs no? and only execute with 3 stacks marked for exe

[manic river]

I'm getting a bit desperate at this point because I literally don't know what I'm doing so bad and my raiding group is starting to get pushy with me. Even if it is with good intention I just wanted to be more chill and it's starting to negatively impact me

[steep wedge]

I feel you, i wanna atleast blue parse all bosses i usually only green parse 😦

[astral talon]

I had 1.6mil overall in mists 10 but few wipes on last boss and I finished at 1.19

[manic river]

I'm literally in grey parse, and I know I have problems managing my movement while avoiding mechanics adds etc

But I'm really triying to improve

[vast cedar]

better start hitting those dummies

[inner wasp]

if ur grey parsing that almost sounds like ur literally not hitting the boss

either due to movement or not pressing buttons when u should

do u have logs

[manic river]

That's the thing, I'm hitting the dummy right now with a friend and the damage donest' go up

Even without movement or mechanics

[inner wasp]

well dummy dmg isnt gonna go up

its gonna stable out by nature

[manic river]

And it is too low

[inner wasp]

did u sim urself without any raid buffs to see what u should be doing

[quick edge]

Sim your character then follow the s

Do you have overpower on your bars

[mint patio]

What’s your item level, do you have a link to your toon to look over?

[manic river]

Well but simbots do not seem to do things that differently and they do things human players don't recomend like always spending sudden death instantly or other stuff

[inner wasp]

i wouldnt normally recommend but u could always install smth like hekili to see if you're doing something catastrophically wrong in ur rotation in real time

[vast cedar]

why wouldn't you spend a sudden death proc?

[manic river]

Guide literally advises to try to wait for 2, or if you have to reniew the buff or 3 procs of the hero talent

[inner wasp]

it stacks to 2 so some other stuff takes prio

[quick edge]

.

[mint patio]

Yeah I don’t worry about the nuanced prio stuff. I just always send.

[inner wasp]

just sending prob isnt huge dps loss over being optimal

if ur just learning

[mint patio]

^^^

[manic river]

How do I get it?

Yeah I was training today by just sending it right away but it doesn't seem to be the problem

[inner wasp]

it would be a dps loss if ur losing mortal strike casts tho

dont waste ms casts

[vast cedar]

so you're saying to play around marked for execution, send on 2 stacks, rather t han dump SD procs

[neon niche]

and just slam if there is nothing else to do

[inner wasp]

marked for execution plays around itself

[manic river]

Yep

[inner wasp]

play around 2 stacks/juggernaut

[vast cedar]

im not running jugger, thats why i was confused

[inner wasp]

wuh

why are u not running juggernaut in raid

[neon niche]

st is juggernaut

[mint patio]

Should be able to just go to Warcraftlogs and look up your name then post the link here.

[vast cedar]

i lied

[inner wasp]

[jade cargo]

@sage badge 👋

[sage badge]

[jade cargo]

[vast cedar]

so i dont need to track marked for execution

[inner wasp]

u do in m+

[vast cedar]

it'll just happen

[inner wasp]

make sure u execute things before they die with stacks on them

else u waste bladestorm cdr

[vast cedar]

i see

[jade cargo]

@safe vigil stop being pussy and play Arms in m+

[inner wasp]

but in raid as long as ur not grossly neglecting ur rotation u should be executing either at 3 stacks or before 3 stacks

[ionic latch]

With the 4p, do you prioritize OP resets over SD or nah

[inner wasp]

THOUGH now that i think abt it @vast cedar

if u get unlucky with SD procs u might get to 3 stacks and get an sd proc that way before getting a natty sd proc

in which case you'd also press

so it is worth it to track

i lied to u

[vast cedar]

its an easy weak aura to add, just another debuff on target

[inner wasp]

idk i built my wa setup from luxthos' so everything was already there xd

i just customize other ppls work

[vast cedar]

yeah, i run ipses and tweak

[inner wasp]

only thing luxthos doesnt track is tier for some reason

had to add that myself

[fresh spire]

Cone made some gg weakuras

[gaunt owl]

time for your copy pasta Fishbro

and yeah the WA make it simple

as there is many condition to when you push Execute outside of Execute time

[fresh spire]

Makes arms ez

Actual goat behaviour

[jade cargo]

@jovial marsh u spelled it wrong m8

[wanton sierra]

old warrior soul todu

since this week is tyrn, what are the changes for colossus m+ build?

[fresh spire]

All weeks are tyran

Unless your not doing 10s

[wanton sierra]

im slow this season, im on 9s yet

[fresh spire]

[jade cargo]

my game starts next week

[wanton sierra]

no one shall invite an 9s score man

[jovial marsh]

what'd I do?

[fresh spire]

No one invites because pugs

Brown class down bad

[jade cargo]

change ur name to Arms @jovial marsh

[fresh spire]

[jade cargo]

that A at the end it ruined it

[jovial marsh]

hell naw. I've been arma since '96. Won't be changing anytime soon haha

[steep wedge]

wait someone got the cracked WA for Arms 👀 where it at?

[wanton sierra]

arma check the pins xD

[jade cargo]

U
ARE
WEAK

@crimson charmhey DO Sarri old boy

[wanton sierra]

man arterial bleed percentage should be hier... i mean, is not like we uphold demolish stacks, the very moment we get 10 stacks we press demo!! bleed dam should be hier!! ❤️

[manic river]

@mint patio one question, how is that in the Ovinax fight you are sometimes doing like 4 Ms in a row?

Buffs?

[jade cargo]

i remember when rend ticks refreshed MS

glorias times

[mint patio]

I’m using my M+ build on that fight.

[wanton sierra]

why they removed mortal combo? i loved that proc, the sound of it

[manic river]

Well seems that I don't appear on warcraftlogs by myself since all the logs are from the guild -.-

[jade cargo]

@wanton sierrau better up ur RIO - u are dishonoring me

PAPA ARMS

[wanton sierra]

dont even go look xD

last two weeks i was with tons of work

played few keys

dont worry, i shall climb the io ladder

[cloud egret]

fury channel is wilding... is it worth to switch to arms? you guys have different substats right

[nova marsh]

Dosen't matter that much

And tbh arms channels just as much if not more

[cloud egret]

i always liked arms more just didnt like the cleave ability lmao but i can get used to it

so ill just save up gear for both specs now i guess 😄

[nova marsh]

Eh cleave feels nice nowadays

[cloud egret]

ok then ill give it a try when i get the right gear

just had a weapon crafted with vers mastery kekw

[nova marsh]

Also meanwhile I'mma go cry

[cloud egret]

why lol

[nova marsh]

NA gonna get extended to like 4am THE ONE DAY I HAVE RESET OFF

Le sigh

[cloud egret]

damn

[nova marsh]

4 hour extended on maint grinds my gear lol

[wise cloud]

quick tip before raid: what changes in rotation with 4 set during execute?

[worldly kernel]

Boutta be blessed greatly in my vault today

[nova marsh]

You just use MS with 2 stacks of EP and the 4 set buff, Lethal blows, in execute

That's it

[nova marsh]

if I get one more fucking weapon I'm gonna loose my shit

[old trout]

Hey guys,
struggling with a macro atm

#showtooltip /castsequence reset=5 Thunder Clap, Slam

So this should - in theory - cast thunderclap and while its on cd cast Slam
But its only uses slam once and .. than waiting for thunderclap

Any ideas? 🙂

[ionic latch]

In M+, is it better to just have Thunderclap over Rend on your action bar?

[wanton sierra]

you wanna press less buttons? idk coz there is times that you would have tc available and need to cast slam

[unique bridge]

Bind slam to a different button

[old trout]

yes, thats the case. Less buttons

[wanton sierra]

slam is an hell of an button.. i hate to press it, feels wack

[runic pagoda]

really weird when u have no MS OP or exe and u press it like 3x

[worldly kernel]

Managed to snag pretty much everything available from drops this week I’m just looking to swap my transmitter with a GB or sv mastery trinket for keys