arms

[dense vector]

Is shockwave OP for the m+ affix?

[plucky fern]

not complaining or smth, arms is still pretty good this raid because fury ST stinks

[plucky fern]

y

[frosty basin]

going just by boss dmg arms is second

[plucky fern]

its really good

[dense vector]

Can you hit all orbs ? I haven’t done a key yet

[plucky fern]

you kinda can if you take the right angle

[fossil thistle]

The xal thingy?

[plucky fern]

its annoying tho

[fossil thistle]

Depends on where they spawn, but its doable

[minor gust]

If you get the talent below shockwave yes

[fossil thistle]

BE racial works wonders

[plucky fern]

you have to stop dpsing and move to a better angle

[minor gust]

It's pretty easy to hit them all

[plucky fern]

yeah talent is mandratory

its not even worth trying to do affix without improved shockwave

or w/e this talent is called

[dense vector]

Hell ya

[minor gust]

Rumbling balls

[plucky fern]

usually even if i dont aim at all orbs

i hit like all except for 1-2

which can be finished by a few kicks

or cc from other ppl

[dense vector]

Can we shockwave every time? Cause shockwave is short cd

[arctic hearth]

It actually clears all?

[plucky fern]

but the problem i found is that if i do that i dont have shockwave for actual monsters which is a big loss sometimes, so in my group resto shaman does orbs instead

[azure sable]

I'm seeing some arms (instead of complete fury supremacy) in wclogs lately, is it pumping now? 😮

[plucky fern]

and i save shockwave for actual stuns when needed

[manic stirrup]

unfortuantely i think you play massacre in m+

even though i think this talent is bad dreadnaught is just not talentsble

talentable

and mbg is beans too

[plucky fern]

yeah you swap mbg for massacre and dreadnaught for strength of arms

[dense vector]

Isn’t mbg recommended on wowhead

[plucky fern]

much better st

slightly less aoe

[balmy kindle]

Mbg is kind of eh hard to get max value from it

[manic stirrup]

i think the wowhead build is the best aoe configuration

i dont think its the best build total

[plucky fern]

wowhead build is 'best simming build on 8 targets long fight'

which is never the case

if you sim yourself with dungeonslice

mbg stinks

massacre even sims better in this config

[minor gust]

Not saying your wrong but if that was the case prob would have WB instead of BI

[manic stirrup]

maybe

the best aoe configuation without completelt griefing

no bi is an INSANE st loss

[minor gust]

Yup

As cursed as it is

[plucky fern]

yeah kinda sad design

[manic stirrup]

it was fine until the iftk change

[arctic hearth]

Bi?

[manic stirrup]

and no more tom

blunt instruments

[plucky fern]

blunt instuments

choice node with warbreaker

[arctic hearth]

Ah

[balmy kindle]

War breaker being phased out was shocking

[torn rivet]

yo guys arms has been buffed

[manic stirrup]

iftk change

[minor gust]

No it was nerfed

[torn rivet]

arms now has a cool gif they can use for various needs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267940564832354304/1286260904736067658/heart-locket.gif

[plucky fern]

i've been thinking maybe in colossus warbreaker is a bigger AoE gain because if you line it with demolish its really big dam
but the problem is it doesnt align always

[manic stirrup]

more haste more good

[arctic hearth]

Tried a +2 key as arms yday but i need to hit dummy for a bit before i do mythics :p basicly did 50% of my fury performance😅

[manic stirrup]

longer haste gives you more demolishes on average though

[manic stirrup]

arms needs higher keys

even on +9 enemies die to fast

if youre not the only one with cds

[plucky fern]

idk for me its the opposite, i've been trying both arms and fury and i perform better on arms
probably because i hate fury and dont play it well, also xalathath haste buff is much better on arms than fury

[torn rivet]

I also perform better on arms despite maining both specs equally

[balmy kindle]

I have more confidence on arms too

[torn rivet]

and I have more fun on arms, so arms > fury

[arctic hearth]

My friends are playing protpal, mm and mage, the poor mage never got to pop off as arcane cause mm and me as fury deleted everything from +2 to 5s

[plucky fern]

i just wanna die playing fury cant do anything about it

this spec stinks

[torn rivet]

on fury really all you need to do is get enraged then use every cooldown in your kit at once

[balmy kindle]

I mean 2 of the best burst aoe classes

[dense vector]

So just check r.io for builds?

[balmy kindle]

Mage can just chill until bosses

[arctic hearth]

He pumped bosses tho😂✌️

[plucky fern]

check rio 3 days into the season, yeah good talk

[arctic hearth]

Think ill try an arms build without sks for a bit, just to get into it

[balmy kindle]

Between salvo explosive shot and fury rotation no mobs will live

[arctic hearth]

Anyone who can link me one, pref both colossus and slayer

[fossil thistle]

yea

[plucky fern]

try juggernaut slayer build, its in wowhead

it doesnt use sks

no points for that

[arctic hearth]

Cheers!

[torn rivet]

wth is sks

[fossil thistle]

just position yourself in the middle of the spawns. I cant trust pugs 90% of the time, so

[balmy kindle]

Skullsplitter

[torn rivet]

oh, that pile of garbage?

who even presses it

[fossil thistle]

sks amazing

7.62x39 is super duper cheap

[plucky fern]

everyone who want to deal any reasonable damage as arms

[balmy kindle]

Tarkov guy spotted

[fossil thistle]

[torn rivet]

i am living example that I want to deal reasonable damage but never press sks unless it's a boss

[arctic hearth]

Damn thats sick, usually my pala and mage deal with them unless healer is chad, so i just shockwave trash for stops. But kinda tired of my maghar orc tbh

[manic stirrup]

sks is good prio dam

[torn rivet]

speaking of races

[plucky fern]

its not just boss
its pretty often a 2-3 target situation in keys

[torn rivet]

anyone has night elf warrior?

[manic stirrup]

just hit the button with cs and every other short roar

[manic stirrup]

im tauren

maybe with sales gold i’ll switch to nelf

[plucky fern]

after you burst down small adds and finish big boys in a pack

[torn rivet]

im curious if night elf has cool arms animation & if plate looks good on them

[plucky fern]

SS + SKS is big dam

• rage

for executes

[arctic hearth]

Yeah sks is good from what i hear, i just want to get into arms with less buttons first

[balmy kindle]

BE because heritage armour is pog

[manic stirrup]

thunderclap ss cs sks every time

not every time but

thats the dream

[torn rivet]

or perhaps if you guys do know some tool or something where I can see for example

[manic stirrup]

maybe sks before cs is better

[torn rivet]

how do night elves do mortal strike / execute

[manic stirrup]

if you have deep wounds applied

[balmy kindle]

Sks feels bad when u press it but when u look at the meters

[manic stirrup]

create a trial tool

toon

[torn rivet]

a trial char, like?

[manic stirrup]

if thise still exist

[torn rivet]

bruh how did i not think of that.

[plucky fern]

idk you can check critcake stream

he is nelf

[torn rivet]

sleeping 2 hours is not a good idea champs, remember to sleep 8hrs/night for optimal dps

[balmy kindle]

Might be wrong but elves all share the same animation iirc

[torn rivet]

will do that, maybe I can also learn a trick or two from him

[balmy kindle]

nE VE BE

[torn rivet]

huh.. seems okay actually the night elf on animation

it surely feels weird to see such a skinny little elf do wide swings and stuff lol

[balmy kindle]

It's more of wow having huge swords

[torn rivet]

which I love about it

😄

that reminds me, time to go farm shadowland raids for 2h transmogs

[balmy kindle]

Like alot of the swords have super long grip which looks funny on the skinny classes

[torn rivet]

yea that's stupid ngl

too much shaft, not enough blade

[balmy kindle]

If looks ok on orcs and worgen but painfully funny on humanoid sized races

The honed bastard sword esp is a offender of this

[halcyon breach]

It's not as bad as you think

[torn rivet]

yea, my warrior has always been a green orc

but i started leaning (sadly) into alliance races due to how they look (just the night elf females)

but if they look like shit in plate then I don't want it

[halcyon breach]

Don't have my immediate gear handy, but it's roughly 4-5%~ worse on ST to use WB over BI

[proper iron]

This is a hard question to answer BUT hur behind is arms to Fury in m plus?

[balmy kindle]

For me most of the chest options are kind of meh, but BE imo has the best chest with heritage armour

Red and gold which goes very well on alot of other parts, doesn't look bulky as well

[torn rivet]

well this is me boy

this massive heap of strength

with zDPS don't get it twisted

yea fk it, orc he stays

orc is glory

[fossil mantle]

Did I hear someone say Zug Zug

[torn rivet]

where'd you get that helmet

I need it brother.

[fossil mantle]

I farmed since BFA and got it 2 weeks ago believe it or not. Its from ther heroic arathi warfront

[balmy kindle]

Wip zdps

[torn rivet]

noted

cheers!

[balmy kindle]

What's that weapon skin you are holding tho

Some SL polearm?

[slender harbor]

Is 2p even worth using? I tried to sim it earlier but I feel like it didnt even come on top over not using 2 set xd

[balmy kindle]

Unlikely to sim lower with 2 set tho as the parts have good secondaries but 2 set gain is quite miniscule

[slender harbor]

hmm alright, would the 4 set be any better? or still practically non-existant?

[balmy kindle]

Well it's 2-3% more for slayer , 5% ish for colo

Makes MS hit harder that's bout it

[slender harbor]

hmm alright ty for the info ;D

tried to sim again https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8KXQhrQUpgHG46ocYkbyYa 2 set still doesnt come out on top, am i messing up my sim settings? 😮

[frigid cipher]

2p is a 0.65% increase according to the sheet

teeny tiny

[slender harbor]

howd you find that in that raport? I'm looking for it but I'm genuinely having issues xD

[woven wasp]

there is no 2 set being done here

[slender harbor]

i put in set hands and chest (converted ones) in the sim, doesnt it automatically assume the combination of those 2 as set bonus? 😮

[woven wasp]

yeah but how many catalyst charges do you have

(its 1)

[slender harbor]

ah so if I intentionally put 2 items to cata upgraded, it doesnt sim them together because I only have 1 charge?

[woven wasp]

yes you can only convert one item

[slender harbor]

makes sense, fixing htat quickly, ty

[arctic hearth]

Is the polearm without str on it any good or pray for m+ wep drop ?

Can take 616 tier helm or the polearm from vault, currently have 596 wep that i can upp to 606

[vapid bay]

arms pumps hard in m+ im pleasantly surprised

[frigid cipher]

polearm isnt bad it just has limited use. id probably lean towards taking the tier

[arctic hearth]

Yeah assumed it was kinda meh since no str tbh. Considering doing at least normal raid before i take vault, can pick 614 shoulders also

[manic river]

I got the shoulders tier this week, hoping to get the second piece soon

[fossil thistle]

iirc it's good for OH as fury, but if you're hurting, you can do the pvp brawl and go the crafted competitor's route for a (basically) free 610

#sadge.610.pvp.weapon.gang.because.nothing.ever.drops

[slender harbor]

fr? what build are you running?

[vapid bay]

the m+ one on wowhead

[quick vale]

what's our filler if we have 2 stacks of EP and MS is on cooldown? Execute or OP?

[fossil thistle]

execute phase?

[slender harbor]

the slayer one?

[vapid bay]

yea

[slender harbor]

hmm alright

[fossil thistle]

Should be 2x Execute for EP, then OP

[vapid bay]

colossus is not too far behind as well i think

but it feels awkward at times

[spring rune]

Why do you use sweeping strikes before bladestorm? In M+/AOE

[fossil thistle]

I think archi posted somewhere that Colossus was ~6% behind?

[balmy kindle]

Unhinged doesn't cleave

[safe comet]

That doesn’t work with sweeping right?

[fossil thistle]

Unhinged MS doesn't hit 2 targets with SS anymore

[balmy kindle]

With sweeping

[slender harbor]

doesnt it?

well fuck

[fossil thistle]

SS to apply 2x Colossus smash, and SKS

[spring rune]

I checked wohead, icy, and maxroll and all say to SS first

Ah smash I guess makes sense, which is SKS?

[fossil thistle]

Skullsplitter

really strong 2t cleave

[spring rune]

Thanks, didn't realize the common smash was the singletarget one not AOE

[fossil thistle]

If you scroll up enough, someone was mentioing warbreaker wasn't worth taking as the % gain vs % loss (in ST) isn't worth it

Plus, you should always be able to get SS off for your CS

[magic lake]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bnRB5obj6j51QVXbPjPTek

not too shabby I would say

[fossil thistle]

NIce, im sitting at 1.026 at 607 xD

Sacbrood dif 100% /cry

[magic lake]

thought fury would be best

guess Iwas wrong

[elder pelican]

all raid buffs active ?

[magic lake]

dont know just went for quick sim

[fossil thistle]

patchwerk would include it all, yea

[elder pelican]

yeah at the bottom you can select wich buffs you want to sim with , i normaly only use my BS as buff ^^

[slender harbor]

is there a way to see kinda like a details breakdown in those sims? like most used abilitise etc

abilities

[magic lake]

will try it later, thanks for notifying

[elder pelican]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/moFCQBvpejUtnxHsPi5NhM

thats my stand atm , couldn get into a hc raid first week :c

[fossil thistle]

Just scroll down

oh, topgear it doesn't, quick sim it does

[halcyon breach]

There is in quick sims or if you view the html reports

Although html reports are only for small sims

[slender harbor]

ohh i see

ty

btw during execute phase, do we just spam execute or go 2x execute -> MS, repeat?

[elder pelican]

i have a quick question, cause the sim rotation sample is bassically after the second overpower MS > Slam > Overpower

[frigid cipher]

just execute unless you also have 2 stacks of the 4p

or need to refresh deep wounds/rend

[slender harbor]

alright ty

[vale gorge]

Really ? MS with 2 stacks is not worth atm ?

[halcyon breach]

Ms does poopy damage

Without being buffed by modifiers enough

[arctic hearth]

Thanks✌️

[slow saddle]

we also wanna OP r

or only the buffed OP =?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/e6rvp7yBPikf3HNYysBYsL

[quick vale]

am I reading the wowhead rotation right for normal ST that we ONLY execute when there's 3 stacks of IFTK, two stacks of SD, or Jug is about to fall off?

otherwise don't?

[astral yarrow]

basically yes

outside of execute that is

[slow saddle]

3 stacks of in for the kill ?

[astral yarrow]

and by IFTK i assume you mean MfE but they have same icon lol

[quick vale]

so let a sudden death proc go unsused if it's only the one and there's no IFTK?

[slow saddle]

do u mean marked for death

[quick vale]

yeah MFE sorry

[slow saddle]

i mean u still SD above doing nothing dont ya ?

at least for me, there ends up being a choice often between slam vs SD

[quick vale]

that's what I'm asking, because they way it's written, it could kind of mean that you let the SD go unused

[slow saddle]

isnt it said as a prio líst

and SD is just last ?

[quick vale]

5. Execute with three stacks of Marked for Execution, two stacks of Sudden Death, or to refresh Juggernaut

there's no other execute in the list

[slow saddle]

execute is 7

execute on cooldown

so above an RB

i guess that means in exeucte part u send it before RB is all

but after BB

This is a general priority you aim to maintain throughout the fight.

Use ‍Rampage when you do not have ‍Enrage active or it is about to run out within a Global Cooldown.
Use ‍Execute if you have 3x ‍Marked for Execution.
Use ‍Bloodbath if it has more than 90% chance to critical strike.
Use ‍Crushing Blow on cooldown.
Use ‍Rampage when 115+ rage or ‍Recklessness is active.
Use ‍Bloodbath on cooldown.
Use ‍Execute on cooldown.
Use ‍Raging Blow on cooldown.
Use ‍Rampage.
Use ‍Bloodthirst on cooldown.
Use ‍Slam.

[slow saddle]

i just realised i posted fury mb

Apply ‍Rend if it is not already up.
Use ‍Execute with a ‍Sudden Death proc if you have 3x ‍Marked for Execution.
Use ‍Overpower if you have ‍Opportunist.
Use ‍Mortal Strike on cooldown.
Use ‍Overpower on cooldown.
Use ‍Execute with a ‍Sudden Death proc.
Refresh ‍Rend if it has less than 30% its time left.
Use ‍Cleave if ‍Merciless Bonegrinder is up.
Use ‍Slam. this was the correct one as u c theres still execute at spot 6

[quick vale]

this makes way more sense

so basically let the sudden death tick down, see if you can get the 3xMFE, and then send it before it times out if you can't

[frigid cipher]

wait

since when does sd stack

that is wild

[halcyon breach]

It does when you have ID and SD talented iirc

[woven wasp]

like half way through beta iirc

can go to 2

[halcyon breach]

@woven wasp why did you decline

Virent told me to flame you

(I wont do this)

[woven wasp]

im trying to get some other stragglers together

[frigid cipher]

i guess furys does too but i havent taken sd yet

[halcyon breach]

Tbf you only touch SD on 2 fights as Fury

[frigid cipher]

what a wild time

[astral yarrow]

SD is basically only used to try to extend AJ as long as possible

[vale gorge]

It's shameful the amount of constraint that the arm spec has compared to the fury spec for an inferior result...

[frigid cipher]

Its single target is quite a bit higher

Both specs are very strong

[glacial moat]

Arms is currently performing better on multiple fights after the fury nerf 🤷‍♂️. At least I'm heroic.

In*

Dunno about mythic.

[frigid cipher]

definitely not enough mythic data yet

[vale gorge]

(sorry,was talking about mm+)

[glacial moat]

Ah.

I dunno how much better fury really is. I tend to tank keys

[vale gorge]

It's not about being dat better, it's more about the fact that it's far easier to use in any situation for no downside compare to arm imo

[idle ermine]

which one is the correct bis list for m+ wowhead or method/icy veins? basically same?

[slender harbor]

About to recraft, secondary stats alright still or should I swap the missive as well? I used to be fury thats why these were on there

[glacial moat]

Can sim it but haste/mastery isn't terrible for arms. Kinda depends on your other stats

[slender harbor]

alright ty, I appreciate it

[naive sage]

Fun game for you, find what's missing in this image (hint: tier lists are trash)

[slender harbor]

lool

[fossil mantle]

any1 got a SR cheat sheet for dungeons?

[slow saddle]

should prob change ye haste-crit

[slow saddle]

well so few ppl playing arms when fury slaps... i still reckon enchancement shaman and sev other classses will start climbing with tier

[grave mulch]

Curious how much on average does PI give DPS wise?

[astral yarrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6Eh0w/edit?gid=1035028190#gid=1035028190

[grave mulch]

Cheers big dawg

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/stepping-step-stomp-stomping-big-dogs-gif-18191398505017438766

[slender harbor]

i dont think there is a way to sim potential valortokens and crests spendage, is there? (as in which upgrades are worth it etc)

[neon niche]

yes
top gear section
just click the
"+" on bottom left side of the upgradable item
uncheck current level of desired items (for less calculations if needed)
and sim

anything u think off that may be simmable is simmable

[normal marsh]

without selecting each upgrade yourself and making sure its within cap i dont think so

[frank crane]

Gotta stop playing wow so much, read a news title mentioning an "arms embargo" and was like "tf did blizz do this time"... only to realize it was about israel

[wraith cave]

Does cleave take priority over MS as long as its multi target?

[frigid cipher]

at 3 targets yea

or at 2 i guess if you have fervor

[neon niche]

pretty much always
unless its sweepin strikes window or merciless bone grinder with prio targets

[glacial moat]

What is this, m+?

[naive sage]

Yes 10-11 bracket

[glacial moat]

Arms warriors rise up. (I do prot in keys)

[gaunt cove]

Hi mates, we have any bis list for arms ?

[neon niche]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[digital tartan]

Arms looking strong this xpac

?

[neat yoke]

Depends on how much you lift and how much you take care to get enough protein

[frigid cipher]

Arms and fury are both very strong in the raid. Mythic+ its probably a bit worse than fury at most key levels but still alright

How do i make a rend WA that makes the seconds count down faster with skullsplitter

Instead of cutting the timer in half

Surely that can be done

[arctic iris]

I think you'd write a custom function that returns twice the current duration during SKS, and use %c instead of %p for the text?

[serene hollow]

with a lot of effort, sure. Custom functions though, that wouldn't be available in default wa

[quasi torrent]

could make a condition that takes calcs remaining time through getTime and explirationTime

then if sks active

it shows the seconds * 2

as in, just returns double

[frigid cipher]

[arctic iris]

I think that at the point that you're writing a custom function, it would make more sense to show the "real" time

e.g. if you have 20s left on rend, and 5s left on SKS, it would show 15s on Rend

[fickle lotus]

Do we want to be enraged before OF or does it work like Rampage when i play with TR ?

[frigid cipher]

I definitely dont know anything about using custom functions. I can just get used to it i suppose

[wary raft]

It works like rampage

[frigid cipher]

it enrages you first like rampage

[fickle lotus]

Love you Guys

[shy dagger]

Any tip to kill uber zekvir as arms? im close to the cocoon dps check

[oblique hamlet]

easy fix for a dps check is higher ilvl lol I’m gonna try it again when I get more heroic pieces

[austere river]

@smoky kayak what is the case of Elemental Focusing lens? on my own sims its ahead of dawnthread, duskthread and ascendance

elemental, dawn, dusk, ascendance in order on single

[idle ermine]

surgical heartstopper is our bis weapon from m+?

[visual fern]

[austere river]

well depends on the rest of your gear 🙂

[idle ermine]

im talking if rest of gear is bis from m+

[vital rune]

MFW when I get a MT for timewalking, ask my guildies if it drops the mount still, and then get it

[eternal vortex]

Is there a lethal blow tracker WA?

[shadow ibex]

Colossus execute rage is fuckin awful to experience

Give it like 10% free crit chance on autos or smth

[plucky fern]

just dont play colossus st problem solved

[mossy perch]

But the giga bonk

[weak lion]

any tips for a fury warr who parsed 100k over in arms and is converting

never played before

[plucky fern]

keep shit on cd

best tip for arms

[smoky kayak]

it got buffed shortly after launch, I didn't have it simming too well though

its also pure ST, just direct damage; I'd rather have the stat proc

[shadow ibex]

True

But fr the exe rage situation with m+ needs to be banned

[plucky fern]

yeah its a bit tough but 2exe-2op-ms rotation kinda worked for me

[nova marsh]

I still think massa should be baseline

It just feels weird not to have it.

I don't mind our current one

I just don't like 20% exe

[neon niche]

-> be enraged -> push 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 (raging blow)
-> profit

[shadow ibex]

If an auto ever gets parried

You just uninstall

[nova marsh]

Remove parry

For the love of god

[eternal vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-debbie-smith-brayden-holt-wentworth-is-this-your-first-gif-22815379

My rogue friend got parried during broodtwister and he was going crazy

[gusty oxide]

MAxroll tierlist, huhuhuhu

[naive sage]

Archon actually but still

[gusty oxide]

No better, yeah

[clear frigate]

What do these scores even mean

[nova marsh]

Confirmed

[naive sage]

Honestly I'm not sure, they're considering popularity and average score I guess, but as I said, tier lists are trash

[nova marsh]

Not even the playerbase remebers arms exists

Arms is the new survival

[nova marsh]

Tier lists are so biased

Like no matter what people will get angry cuz "omfg Aug is s tier? Trash tier list. Oh arms is c tier? Lies. Ret is better then d tier" lol

[tough tangle]

The Gromnak special

[nova marsh]

If an auto gets parried in exe I'm jumping

Trash design

Man

Tanks have some ego

[old urchin]

It's by design

They know there's a shortage so peeps are more likely to put up with their shit

[nova marsh]

Dude there are only three tank mains in wow

The ones screaming because they're new, the ones with an ego bigger then the sword of sargreas, and the ones who are the literal coolest people to ever live

[distant epoch]

I main DPS but tank for keys and try to make it fun. Problem I’m seeing now is people not understanding mechanics or start popping off before mobs are gathered up for a juicer pull

[nova marsh]

Like the gigapull before the third boss in city

But it's annoying as a warrior cuz sometimes just leap can take aggro

Or charge

Idk I've only done it twice. It's pretty cool if done right

[distant epoch]

Yeah the ol charge > release spirit combo

[nova marsh]

Where's the charge bladestorm realese spirit meme

[glacial moat]

This is so true it hurts

[eternal vortex]

I got you

[gaunt owl]

there was one has gif iirc

[dire hinge]

oooo

[nova marsh]

There it is

Btw dumb question

If cs is off cd and sweeping is too, but bladestorm is up too do we bs first and then sweep smash?

[shadow ibex]

You sweep cs and bs

[nova marsh]

Fair

I've been overthinking sweep probs

[shadow ibex]

Just use it on cd

[nova marsh]

The best advice for arms

[shadow ibex]

Only reason its still on gcd is cuz people would macro it to shit

[nova marsh]

I want my bladestorm tech back

[slender harbor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/CxztgaHBpGN2hkPc#fight=45&type=damage-done I'm the warr Newx, does someone know what I'm doing drastically wrong? i only have a 27% ilvl parse

like if it was 70 ish % parse I would've assumed some timing and dot uptime improvements as well as some gear is not crit since I was fury earlier, but 27% xD

I must've been doing something horribly wrong

[eternal vortex]

#449510248579858432

[worldly kernel]

☝️

[slender harbor]

my bad, didnt notice! 😄

[thick hamlet]

i want to double triple check

on execute phase u dont use MS, only to refresh rend

at least before 4p

and if so, why not just go battle lord instead of EP

[dire hinge]

be sure to cast Bladestorm (Klingensturm) during your opener, it's a lot of damage 👍

[thick hamlet]

improved execute and critical thinking's rage refund stack up to 30%, ya?

[manic stirrup]

ep has value before and during execute phase

[nova marsh]

EP's value is increased because we get a lot of SD procs outside of exe atm

Espically since I believe slarms runs actual sudden death too

in st

[manic stirrup]

its either sd or fervor lol

[nova marsh]

This is true

[latent moss]

just play slayer with jugg

[nova marsh]

ew

disgusting

[white anvil]

do sims improperly rate mad queens mandate?

dunno how theyd factor in the cd reduction

also theres some pretty broken individual interactions

[thick hamlet]

thanks for the reply amigo

i was hoping EP would be a bigger factor

[white anvil]

in a key yesterday, I hit the first boss of mists in his execute phase for 37 million in one trinket usage

he literally died from 20%

to 0

in a =5

+5

[nova marsh]

To be fair

If MS wasn't nerfed it proballY would be

[slender harbor]

Ty 😄

[nova marsh]

But i don't remeber how arms played on beta pre nerf because...well I didn't play beta

ngl I kinda liked the DF exe

Felt neat

espically with windfury, and even better now that we have raid wide windfury

[teal fossil]

The cd reduction is only for killing right

The sim sends it on cd

[white anvil]

indeed

[teal fossil]

And I don’t think it’s even worth trying to snipe something in m+

[white anvil]

which makes me think it might be better for m+ than simmed. however, you need to calculate it properly since the debuff only lasts 2 seconds. so it might be a bit niche

[teal fossil]

Its way too much brain power

[chilly parcel]

Guys, which build would you play for Ansurek? ST? AoE?

[white anvil]

also, i might be wrong, but i am almost certain it benefits from deep wounds / colossus smash dmg increase and so on

because the wowhead comments have ww monks, havoc dhs mentioning there class buffs enhancing i

their*

[boreal quartz]

Archi said smth about it earlier

It does get amped by slayer debuff etc

[white anvil]

yeah it does like 8-11% of my overall st

its uts

nuts

[safe parrot]

hi all, wanted to get your input/experience on the hekili add on. how useful and effective do users find it and/or any tips you might have

[left talon]

AoE

[manic stirrup]

its better to learn without but if you need the visual its not a bad tool to start with

you should learn how to play the spec and eventually remove it though

[safe parrot]

thank you, is it not accurate or not close to the guides?

[manic stirrup]

its just the class apl

it is accurate but very distracting and procs can mess with it

and make you play worse

[safe parrot]

i see, thanks

[chilly parcel]

Thx!

[teal fossil]

You can test that yourself

When they say class buff they mean their raid buffs probably

Not to mention some classes give crit stat on their cd and not crit on abilities like reck

And if cds are affecting it then it’s a bug and will be fixed

[teal fossil]

You can get very good at the game with just hekili

Obv better to learn the spec but there’s nothing wrong with hekili at all

[latent moss]

u can put ur own apl

in it as well

[safe parrot]

thanks!

[latent moss]

i still wouldnt recommend it tho

its not very good when u have a lot of procs

and it cant know if u are in aoe or not until u tag multiple mobs

[teal fossil]

Press cleave once

[shadow ibex]

Been doing colossus keys

Sucks ass

[safe parrot]

i think i can manage the aoe situations since im primarily a raider than m+. and i dont see myself going mythic raids anymore, just heroic

[nova marsh]

Colossus is trash

It should be removed

[shadow ibex]

Execute a mob once and you've made a financial decision that will haunt your family for generations

You'll never be able to afford anything ever again

[teal fossil]

My friend has not dps a raid in 4 years

Walked in first time arms to heroic raid

95 average

Did everything but last boss I believe

[safe parrot]

what did he use and how did he do it?

[thorny phoenix]

I cant confirm with hekili you can easily do 90+ parses

works pretty good with warrior

you gotta use your brain too a little bit just dont follow it blindly

[nova marsh]

I just don't like rotation helpers

Tried it in legion, hated it

It's a personal thing though.

[thorny phoenix]

I mean if you can play your class/spec already its not needed but for those who are learning I thought it was pretty decent

[nova marsh]

This is ture

I still have things to learn

I'm bad at st lol

But I just find stuff like that really distracting

[finite mantle]

helpers don’t do anything that hitting a dummy won’t do

but game how u like no one presses ur buttons but u

[nova marsh]

The difference is time really

The one thing I wish wow had was an exe dummy

Totally not cuz I wonna see how high exe can go

I got a cool 4 milli last night in a key

[fresh tide]

Draconflight dummies should be pretty close to an execute dummy at this point

Stuff that's only one expansion older usually doesn't bloat the numbers either

[nova marsh]

I thought all dummies scaled with level now

[fresh tide]

Maybe, I know they update the stormwind/org ones for sure

[nova marsh]

Oh also blizz

Can we have an aggro drop on dummies

Please

It's espically annoying on pet classes

[fresh tide]

Unrelated but it tilts me that the slayer strike counter for sudden death doesn't restart when you pull a raid boss

[nova marsh]

Or ever

Until you're In a new instance

It's kinda minor but I still hate it

[cobalt barn]

New to warr, what stat split should I be going for? 33% crit, 19% haste, 16% mast 7% versa atm?

[latent moss]

easiest way is to sim yourself

[nova marsh]

40 40 20 20

I'm kidding that was df

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[cobalt barn]

Guess I learn to read sims properly now xd Any advice?

[thick kelp]

Google how to sim your character

[teal fossil]

Just following hekili religiously

https://tenor.com/view/goku-ssj-kamehameha-gohan-goten-gif-21719355

[safe parrot]

👍

[gaunt owl]

hekili is stronger than 99% of the player

[teal fossil]

Idk if you ever watched race to world last

But if those people have hekili

They would not be world last

[latent moss]

there are tons of guides online

[inland quest]

what is the rotation exec

[hard kernel]

we are pumpers out here

[latent moss]

1. Execute if Juggernaut about to fall off or you have 2 Sudden Death stacks
2. MS to keep Rend/DW as it's about to drop off
3. (WITH 4P) MS with 2 Lethal Blows stacks (4P) and 2 Executioners Precision
4. Skullsplitter < 85 rage
5. Overpower with opportunist < 80 rage and < 2 Martial Prowess
6. Execute
7. Overpower

[finite mantle]

hooooly

[latent moss]

@inland quest

[inland quest]

okay thanks bro

[finite mantle]

I love how the dev made shit from a butt with this

[iron spruce]

i just do execute twice then mortal strike :)

[hazy flower]

Ive seen people in high wr guilds that use hekili

:caught:

[gritty tartan]

hi all, i have a question, for m+ is better sim 1 target , 3 or 5 targets?

[teal fossil]

ye you just dont tell people you use it

imagine if revvez was a hekili enjoyer

[latent moss]

he is hekili

hekili is a revvez enjoyer

[warped ether]

in execute is ms only cast when 2 op stack 2ep?

[vivid sky]

why does the arms apl tell me to storm bolt then afk for 3 seconds in the opener

[thorn pelican]

bladestorm

[minor gust]

because your bladestorming

[vivid sky]

ahhhhhhh

ok thank u

[thorn pelican]

ye the stormbolt making it look weirder

insane 20k damage bladestorm filler

has anyone else noticed sweep makes your rends applied by tclap also hit an additional target

its so weird

[gaunt owl]

Tclap put rend on 5 target

thats intended

[thorn pelican]

yeah but sweep + tclap puts rend on 10 targets

[gaunt owl]

if true

delete your message right now

[shadow ibex]

That can't be true that's the most spaghetti code shit ever

[gaunt owl]

yeah that would be next omega lvl of spaghetti

[thorn pelican]

i gotta go out and test it again cuz if im wrong im stupid af

[shadow ibex]

I mean its irrelevant in grand scheme not like a huge increase since 10 target pulls are kinda rare

But that's dumb if true

[thorn pelican]

at the very least they do interact

need more targets tho lmao

[dire hinge]

thanks i hate that

[astral talon]

huh

[thorn pelican]

getting a better vid sec

when i can find a group of 10 mobs lmao

[teal fossil]

People bitch about being capped all the time

Ok delete your message rn

Arm will actually top m+ now

[thorn pelican]

how did i upload a 12s clip and now a 4s one is too large

[gaunt owl]

you can crop the screensize if you use windows screenshot to video

delete the proof once posted

and no snitching

[thorn pelican]

its not even that crazy or consistent cuz im pretty sure it can cleave to targets its already rending

so im getting like 7 or 8

on 10 target

[gaunt owl]

you cant trust the game for being consistent anyway

[elfin violet]

guys how do you sim the different embelishments on raidbots? i m stupid been searching for it for 10 minutes....

[normal marsh]

top gear

use this part, search the base items, set the ilvl and stats, then scroll down and use the + icon to add embellishments etc

everforged for plate armour, consecrated for cloak, charged for claymore, everforged for axe if i remember right

[inland drift]

what app is this? sorry im new

[ornate mountain]

Wait can you bolt in blade storm

[inland drift]

yeah

[nova marsh]

It's technically a dps increase

But it's really really minor

[teal fossil]

its minor but its free

yeah

[inland drift]

good for stun too

[nova marsh]

If you need it

St stops are nice

[dire hinge]

this is from Raidbots, a simulation tool that runs your character through different scenarios and tells you its performance outcome.
The screenshot is from a "sample" section, which demonstrates what a rotation might look like in that scenario.

if you wanna learn more, you can head here:
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-raidbots-and-run-character-simulations-6050

[balmy swallow]

I will savor this moment for the 30 mins that it will last lmao

[inland drift]

May your heart get unlimited love

thanks ❤️

[dire hinge]

Grats! This is exciting, nice work 🎉

to be realm 1 i'd have to unseat @violet steeple which i don't foresee happening 😂

[lime ruin]

https://youtu.be/k1WC18_dP60?si=DtLho2xoRtGq0h9P I did it finally

[balmy swallow]

Thanks! I guess that's the upside to playing on a med population realm, besides everyone here plays fury hahaha im just sticking to my trusty Arms

[violet steeple]

🙂 love you

[sage igloo]

I learned the hard way that the soak does not work on dawnbreaker's ship, so pretty much half of the instance

[manic river]

Second tier piece on hero lvl at last

Got a chest piece doing the Illidan dungeon with the time mission and also got one of the bis trinkets at champion

[dire hinge]

very nice!

[minor gust]

good boy boomie playing arms on sluggie

[nova marsh]

Ya know what I'd love?

To get a key that isn't siege of boralus

I'm really, really tired of this place

[minor gust]

siege 2nd boss what a great time

[nova marsh]

Siege evrey boss what a great time

They're all annoying tbf

[minor gust]

nah the other 3 are free

[nova marsh]

I mean

tentacle boi isn't that bad

People are just bad

and make it wayyyy worse then it has to be

But honestly when you get the same key four times in like 3 days it's hard to not to be annoyed

[minor gust]

yee

[nova marsh]

Like half my dungeon runs for this entire week is just siege

Can I please do anything else lol

I'll even take grim batol over this shit, least grim batol has good loot

[tropic eagle]

Colossus is fun in +7 and higher!

[nova marsh]

I'm consigning myself now to go try and see how many declines I can get as arms

As long as it's not city of threads

fuck that place

Is stonevault bad in higher keys? it seemed very tame at M0

[tropic eagle]

Stonevault is pretty chill compared to other stuff

[nova marsh]

stonevault just feels free

[manic stirrup]

last boss is by far the hardest one in the dungeon wdym

[nova marsh]

For pugs

[manic stirrup]

it just is the hardest

its like last boss in temple

[minor gust]

idk ive only done it on a 9 and it wasnt that bad

2nd boss was rough for us with that dot

[manic stirrup]

need the tank to be in melee

immediately

[minor gust]

yeah tentacle will 1 shot a dps

[nova marsh]

That's not really hard

[manic stirrup]

on 2nd boss i mean

[minor gust]

oh

[manic stirrup]

when it leaps it shoots a random player with a nasty ass dot

until the tank is in melee again

[nova marsh]

Yeah that shit is horrid

[minor gust]

hmmm

[tropic eagle]

She doesn leap if you are not bad at the game

[naive sage]

Colossus is so cool though

[manic stirrup]

whats the mechanic on it

[fresh tide]

Keep buffing demolish 🙏

[tropic eagle]

Read the ability, as long as she is CCd she doesnt leap

So hamstring her

Or have a rogue with slow poison etc

[nova marsh]

Wait what

[fresh tide]

A normal mode trinket is allowed to crit for 10 million damage, so should demlish

[tropic eagle]

Yep.

[nova marsh]

How has it been like 6 years and I didn't know that

[manic stirrup]

i didn’t siege like twice ever before this week

mdid*

did*

im stupid

[tropic eagle]

Well now you know, it makes everything much easier haha

[fresh tide]

Yeah I did alliance siege for the first time this week, I was so lost

[minor gust]

siege is a horrible dungeon and its crazy they brought it back in the first plac

[dire hinge]

omg updated boralas swirlie thank god

[fresh tide]

They always have questionable cohices on dungeons to bring back

[manic stirrup]

idk how every swirly isnt like this

[latent moss]

[manic stirrup]

last boss is mists is so fucking egregious with how dogshit the swirlies are

[nova marsh]

Yeah the updated savage tempest is good

[manic stirrup]

some are invisible and the ones that arent are just so hard to see

[latent moss]

they managed to make it even worse

im impressed

[tropic eagle]

They are updating them dungeon by dungeon it seems

[manic stirrup]

work faster

[tropic eagle]

First it was ara kara now boralus

Shouldve just done the whole bulk

[nova marsh]

I hate mists

It's just really not fun

[manic stirrup]

again, all of these dungeons suck

[nova marsh]

Don't they always

[tropic eagle]

The coruptors in grim batol are gonna be insane on add weeks

[manic stirrup]

and the one time they make good affixes theyre just gone immediately at +12

[nova marsh]

That's the fun part

[latent moss]

bro yeah

[manic stirrup]

almost all of the mega dungeons have been fantastic

[latent moss]

i love that haste

[nova marsh]

Above a 10 EVREY WEEK is an add week

[nova marsh]

This is true

[manic stirrup]

no key before m+ can be a good m+ dungeon

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-hes-right-you-know-hes-right-you-know-meme-gif-27526609

[manic stirrup]

without an INSANE amount of chabges

shits just too old

[latent moss]

halls of reflection

+23 tyrannical

[nova marsh]

That...no

just no

Holy fuck no

[manic stirrup]

violet hold comes in rotation ill blow myself up

[latent moss]

[tropic eagle]

Shadowfang keep when

[nova marsh]

Blizz didn't do it in legion for a reason lol

Because people would've had a stroke

[latent moss]

yeah because its fascinating how dogshit it is

[manic stirrup]

LMFAOOO

[latent moss]

and everyone knows it

[nova marsh]

I mean making another version of it was a mistake in the first place

like WHY

[manic stirrup]

the bosses dont feel like bosses

bc theres like 9 pf them

they cant be too cool

[latent moss]

🎦

[tropic eagle]

They kinda had to since they went with Dal as main city again for that xpac

But yeah nobody wanted that

[nova marsh]

Okay so

If we go to northrend again

[latent moss]

(we will)

in 6 years

xd

or something

4

[nova marsh]

Do we have to have the Oculus as a key

Blizz should remake it with MORE drake riding

[tropic eagle]

Yeah you get the new dragonfly tech in it

Amazing right?!

[nova marsh]

YIPPIE ANOTHER DRAGON RIDING DUNGEON

[manic stirrup]

the dragonriding not being the worst part of dawbbreaker is so funny

[nova marsh]

I don't hate dragonriding in content

I think tindral's section was kinda neat

[manic stirrup]

i dont mind it

the dawnbreaker is shit with or without

[fresh tide]

It still makes the dungeon noticeably more awkward

[tropic eagle]

Tindral was ok dawnbreaker is pushing it imo

[manic stirrup]

its linear but pretends to not be

[nova marsh]

Yeah that's what's so stupid about dawnbreaker

[latent moss]

i dont mind dawnbreaker apart from 2nd boss area

[fresh tide]

awkwardly circling in the air trying to figure out wtf the tank is cooking suuuucks

[latent moss]

fuck that

[manic stirrup]

rashanan doesnt do anything

[latent moss]

ship is cool and all

[nova marsh]

Nukohnd wasn't linear, evreyone just decided on a boss order

[manic stirrup]

well there was a clearly most efficient path

to do the bosses

[latent moss]

dont all dungeons have that tho

[dire hinge]

visual accessibility as a difficulty lol

[latent moss]

cause some bosses are harder than others etc then u want to align lust / cds etc

[manic stirrup]

and all the bosses you had specific enemies to kill to spawn the boss

[fresh tide]

Technically not linear but they spawn you closer to the first boss and the last boss spawns closer to the third boss

[nova marsh]

I totally don't just pop DTBS when it's up for savage tempest to greed uptime

[manic stirrup]

nokhud is the illusion of choice

[nova marsh]

All dungeons are lmao

[manic stirrup]

the enemies in the last area were so egregiously bad for count you could never ever pull them

[fresh tide]

dungeon would have been fucking cooked if you couldn't skip that section

[nova marsh]

The "intended" path into the stronghold was just awful

Also

[manic stirrup]

i agree but sometimes theres small amounts of choice that feel good

[nova marsh]

Fuck Balakar Khan

[manic stirrup]

like going left or right in city of threads

i think is good choice

or left or middle at the end area

[nova marsh]

he is the stole reason I didn't get my portal to Nokhund

[manic stirrup]

its a linear dungeon but theres choice that actually can be different

[nova marsh]

Skill issue I didn't realize he could charge outside the arena ig

[manic stirrup]

in brackenhide there was a set path bc some enemies were just not possible to do

the poison stealth guys before being completely nerfed to the ground were a wipe if you ever pulled them

the dungeon that shouldve been the least linear had such a clear path bc half of it was not even possible to do on relevant keys

[nova marsh]

I mean ig I just liked the DF dungeons over...this shit

and that's including jade serpant

Fucking christ I really hated that one

[manic stirrup]

i liked most of them more than the current dungeons too

[nova marsh]

academy was only fun because of mass aoe pulls

[fresh tide]

shadowlands was pretty good, bfa was like 50/50

[nova marsh]

Where you just popped off.

[abstract vale]

yo are we complaining about the current dungeon pool?

I also hate it

[nova marsh]

Evreyone does lol

[manic stirrup]

academy was a fantastic dungeon

i think the miniboss between crawth and tree boss is disgusting

[nova marsh]

I just didn't like the bird section or that mini boss

Yeah

[manic stirrup]

but other than that i think its a fantastic key

[abstract vale]

time for my monthly whine about no kings rest

[nova marsh]

NO

You cannot DRAG ME BACK there for another season

[abstract vale]

I want cut of death

[manic stirrup]

i played kings rest like once ever

[nova marsh]

I'd rather die

[dire hinge]

jazzed for my "shadowlands enthusiast" title soon

[fresh tide]

Dragonflight season 2 is the worst dungeon pool they've ever done imo

[nova marsh]

The only dungeon I really disliked and couldn't stand in Slands was Sanguine depths

[manic stirrup]

no chance

[abstract vale]

DF s2 was cool

[fresh tide]

Halls of infusion, uldaman, brackenhide, and VP were cringe AF

[manic stirrup]

it had some stinkers

uldaman and vp are fucking terrible

brackenhide was fine before rotsingers were made to be unpullable

halls is a good dungeon as long as youre not tanking

the most boring tank dungeon ever theres like 3 dangerous enemies

[nova marsh]

Halls just felt like an eternity

VP was just...really not fun.

Espically the first boss, god that felt cheap to die to

[manic stirrup]

i agree but with uldaman in the same season, it felt so much quicker lol

[fresh tide]

uldaman was so bad

[manic stirrup]

uldaman literally feels like a 45 minute key

[nova marsh]

I only hate ulda due to those haste drainers

And the third boss. Fuck that

Last boss was kinda neat ig?

[shadow ibex]

so that sweeping tclap stuff works?

[manic stirrup]

issue with the last boss is that it was just clearly the hardest part of the key

[shadow ibex]

i missed all the discourse in the gym

[manic stirrup]

assuming you dont grief bromach

so u do a long ass key get to last boss and get fucked

[nova marsh]

Honestly I think DF s3 was probally my favorite rotation

out of DF

[manic stirrup]

idk man all the old dungeons were beans

i never completely a tyran dhy

[nova marsh]

a good atal was kinda fun

[manic stirrup]

dht

[nova marsh]

DHT was ther only real stand out awful one

[fresh tide]

if it's before legion it's cooked and even then some of them are bad

[manic stirrup]

atal dazar sucks its only “good” bc its so fast

and so easy

[nova marsh]

In part because of those god awful mushroom

[manic stirrup]

but then yazma just oneshots you and is a 7 minute boss

[nova marsh]

Spell reflect

Felt good

[manic stirrup]

reanimated horrors are so awful

any kick goes off in the left side you wipe

so in any uncoordinated group you have to pull like 4 horrors

[fresh tide]

Like 50% of the dungeons from any given expansion are so bad they should never come back

[nova marsh]

The only problem I really had with S3 was....so...many...casters

[fresh tide]

it's rough

[manic stirrup]

maybe im just a hater

ive been shit talking every dungeon lol

[nova marsh]

Shit talk freehold please

Evreyone's like "OH FREEHOLD WAS SO FUN" no it wasn't

It was ass

[manic stirrup]

i liked it

but i see why ppl would hate it

[abstract vale]

it was fun once every 3 weeks

[nova marsh]

I hated freehold regardless of the week

It's just not fun at all

[fresh tide]

it was better when they brought it back because of the improved visuals, but yeah it's kind of average

Shark puncher is fucked up

[nova marsh]

I liked underrot in S2 over freehold

Aside from the last boss, that was fucking trash

[terse osprey]

IV or WH for arms pve?

[abstract vale]

last boss had free impending procs tho

[dreamy tiger]

Looks like Blizz broke Concotion: Kiss of Death trinket. Today it changed so it goes on CD instantly, so you can't reuse the trinket to remove the buff. And you can't even right click the buff off either. It's a guaranteed 5 second stun

Anyone else using it and have this problem?

[nova marsh]

I guess?

[shadow ibex]

Bring back explosive so I can get IV forever

[nova marsh]

They should give us the 10.1 PTR version of explosive

that would be hilarious

[abstract vale]

I like having 0 affixes tho

[nova marsh]

The only affix I just really disagree with is Peril

Overpunishment is just...not good

[dire hinge]

arms was so good at explosives, but the people feared the truth

[manic river]

Big smash numbas

[latent moss]

unethical windfury

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[shadow ibex]

i usually played prot

just heroic throwin axes all day

out here lookin like nightwolf

https://tenor.com/view/nightwolf-revenant-nightwolf-revenant-mk11-mortal-kombat-gif-22057062

[nova marsh]

Dumb question, does anyone know if they ever fixed Aug's dps strings?

[misty summit]

was absolutely popping off on Rashanan, then he got bugged and couldnt die so we had to reset, next pull i die in the soak and we down it

yeah im tilted

10000 gorillian dolllar company

[dire hinge]

iiiiiit happens

You’ll get it next time 🙏

[misty summit]

youre right

[shadow ibex]

go back in a pug

[misty summit]

its whatever

[shadow ibex]

[misty summit]

just cant believe bugs like that happen on live

[grave mulch]

Stamping on business lastnight in raid

[nova marsh]

Remeber when slyvie on launch could just

wipe the whole raid with anduin

[manic river]

Damn I wish I could get those %s

[grave mulch]

im living my best life

[manic river]

I need to unlock those secrets XD

[boreal quartz]

Secret is having gear

[nova marsh]

big true

[dreamy tiger]

Oh nevermind. They changed it today so now you have to jump to cancel it. Guess too many people must've complained about it being hard to use or something

[heady marlin]

does arms ever beat fury?

[latent moss]

yes on st

and 2t

[heady marlin]

but not M+ sadly?

[latent moss]

idk i dont have any proof but i feel like arms st is slightly better

[nova marsh]

No arms is trash in keys

(I'm kidding!)

[latent moss]

thats just from me playing both

[heady marlin]

arms is best boy

[shadow ibex]

fury in keys is kind of historically very strong

[nova marsh]

Fury as a spec is just made for keys

arms is made for raid kind of?

[boreal quartz]

5

LAUGH AT THIS USER

[nova marsh]

YES PLEASE DO

[boreal quartz]

Pvp formerly

[nova marsh]

I'M A FORMER FURY MAIN

Formerly?

Dude we're still a pvp spec

[boreal quartz]

Nuh uh

[latent moss]

nah we are worse than fury

in pvp

xd

[boreal quartz]

Arms is dog in arena

[nova marsh]

Uh huh

[boreal quartz]

Xd

[nova marsh]

Exactly

[heady marlin]

I want bfa arms back

[nova marsh]

thus arms's is trash

That's why I play it

[nova marsh]

LOL NO

[heady marlin]

felt good then no?

[nova marsh]

Deep breath

Die tom die

My glorious path to 1k declines has begun

[latent moss]

nah fuck

bfa arms

give legion

[heady marlin]

what addon is that

[nova marsh]

Declined

[heady marlin]

hmm

sounds like it could make my depression worse

i like it

[nova marsh]

IT SURE IS MAKIN MINE WORSE

[latent moss]

not bad

[nova marsh]

end of DF s3 was like 600 declines

I've hit 100 declines already!

[dense vector]

Can someone look at 2 sims and tell me why the one with better gear is worse?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6XJcsevz2me82mePwrVmYQ

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oo9hZA2QVbceqVFPStNQjk

[light sinew]

hey guys is anyone else having issues with overcapping rage, i literally cant press my globals quick enough to dump rage outside of execute

[nova marsh]

Yeah

[shadow ibex]

its a 1min sim

[nova marsh]

Dw about it

It's normal

[shadow ibex]

and ur simming a 2 min trinket

[light sinew]

just i was always told to NEVER overcap but geninely can't spend it quicker than im generating atm

[fresh tide]

normal, that's what happens when overpower is overtuned

[shadow ibex]

things gonna be weird probably

[light sinew]

ok good thanks guys

[boreal quartz]

Cap dont matter

Play prio

[nova marsh]

They could remove rage

and just give us cds. And arms would play the same

[shadow ibex]

yall wanna play with rage play colossus in m+

become starved for using 1 execute