don't do that to me
#arms
bitter monolith
thorn pelican
theyre extending it to take another 1% damage from fury 
warm olive
Fury:
- Removed all the damage from Fury warriors, now they will appear on the top of the meters but it is all fake.
quartz cedar
Fury: all abilities no longer do damage. Look how angry they are. Fulfills class fantasy.
boreal quartz
Baseg
white anvil
Hope I get ring from vault
With heroic ansurek killed, it should be like 620+ yeah ?
something like that
warm olive
Fury: all abilities no longer do damage. Look how angry they are. Fulfills cl...
Fury has controled their inner angrines and cannot generage rage anymore
Bloodthirst removed
Raging Blow removed
limber river
Fury: all abilities no longer do damage. Look how angry they are. Fulfills cl...
Based
white anvil
you guys using a wa for 4p?
boreal quartz
Ye
white anvil
At 3p right now so unsure what the dps diff is between using 1 charge vs 2
got the 619 non-tier chestpiece though from ansurek so that will be nice
limber river
Did lfr normal and heroic and didn’t get tier so I can just keep eating crayons.
lunar oyster
UP
dire hinge
servers up
echo monolith
what does the AoE opener for slayer arms look like?
currently im doing something like:
charge
avatar
dragon roar
bladestorm
thunderclap
sweaping strikes
cleave
CS
MS
skullsplitter
cleave
im sure there is a lot wrong here though
dire hinge
what does the AoE opener for slayer arms look like?
currently im doing something...
you want to CS way earlier
boreal quartz
what does the AoE opener for slayer arms look like?
currently im doing something...
Charge tc vs roar ava vs ss type shit
echo monolith
Charge tc vs roar ava vs ss type shit
whats vs and dont we wont avatar for roar?
dire hinge
roar's upfront damage isn't very important, so it's fine to roar first then use major CDs afterwards
echo monolith
roar initial dmg is still >1.5x more than a cleave though 🤔
minor gust
boreal quartz
It doesnt matter much
minor gust
funny item in vault
echo monolith
times change i guess
boreal quartz
Thank cleave for it
fiery linden
echo monolith
talkin about cleave, does it actually benefit from SS?
i tried to test it but with crits its so inconsistent id rather ask lol
teal fossil
Yes with fob
dire hinge
talkin about cleave, does it actually benefit from SS?
it does, yes, via Fervor of Battle
echo monolith
i see, thanks!
cyan tusk
Do i take the ringworm?
fossil thistle
cyan tusk
two tier pieces in raid
fossil thistle
:hype:
rapid bronze
3x tier pieces pog
gusty nymph
any suggestion? it would replace 606 gear
i am simming but it says the weapon withouth strenght...
marsh marten
Do we have any info on this?
Simc doesn't look like it activates the use effect for dps calculation
not in any of the trinket lists here or on bloodmallet
lilac lava
go tier i spose?
merry stone
i am simming but it says the weapon withouth strenght...
Extremely likely weapon damage is eclipsing your current weapon even if it didn’t have strength on it
oblique hamlet
go tier i spose?
wep is prolly pgood too
lilac lava
I can prolly get the 619 wep crafted at least
go tier, get 2 set, try to get 1 more piece from raid this week and catalyze for 4 set
rotund pelican
Hi, is it possible to spellreflect one of the poisonbolts on silken court fight as dps? It's always 4 casts (if i counted right lol) so I tried taunting during the 3rd cast, but boss just ignores me somehow
gusty nymph
Extremely likely weapon damage is eclipsing your current weapon even if it didn’...
i ssumed. thanks mate 🙂
safe comet
Darn, no 616 wep from vault
safe comet
Dont know if I should craft 619 Bracer and Cloak with Duskthread or yolo a 619 wep lol
Feel like weps arent too hard to come by
safe comet
I wont have enough gilded any time soon most likely
lilac lava
Make it 636
im washed and dont have the gilded's
sage badge
Arms owns
steep wedge
Wait from the whole great vault you can only pick one thing?
safe comet
Yur
steep wedge
Damn
safe parrot
once you open the vault thats pretty much it for the week right? you either loot it or collect the tokens?
merry stone
Until you fill it again for next week
nimble niche
Hey, can someone help me out
Raidbots says this is really good for me:
But I feel like no STR is insane
agile crown
what we crafting boys?
merry stone
We just had this topic a couple lines earlier 😉
safe parrot
i must have terrible luck. my vault opened with the same items i got form heroic raids , dungeons, and bountiful chests. there is no upgrade for me
nimble niche
oh shit perfect
merry stone
It’s not as insane to think Weapon Damage > Strength
safe comet
Best item I got was a 616 belt with crit / haste, so not horrible for arms
steep wedge
I swear if greatvault don’t give me a juicer weapon 🔫😡
I’ve had terrible drops all week
safe comet
Yeah I was bummed I had no wep
safe parrot
i thought the vault was supposed to be a sort of consolation mechanic for having a bad week of drops, is that right?
steep wedge
I did full normal raid, full mythic dung, all delves I could and 4 heroic bosses with 0 weapon drops and no theoretical BiS drops
safe comet
I did full normal raid, full mythic dung, all delves I could and 4 heroic bosses...
Not even a dungeon drop? Sheesh
steep wedge
I’m still rocking heroic dung wep
merry stone
i thought the vault was supposed to be a sort of consolation mechanic for having...
Instead of “bad luck protection” (which didn’t even seem like it worked like it sounded), they gave you more agency to have MORE choices of loot
safe parrot
Instead of “bad luck protection” (which didn’t even seem like it worked like it ...
i see, i just find it odd that i got the same 5 items in my vault as i did from my delves/dungeons. i even got the same necklace that dropped for me from rashanan on heroic. it almost feels like im being trolled lol
shadow ibex
I've gotten cloaks from 5 delves in a row
Then I get ritual dagger, then 2 more cloaks
Call me fuckin Dr strange the way I be cape-ing
native kite
I have a question, i was looking at the Wowhead page for Arms and on the rotation part it said u roar before avatar? is there a specific reason for that?
cloud gyro
Then I get ritual dagger, then 2 more cloaks
Ritual dagger is the nuts, so it balances out
cloud gyro
I have a question, i was looking at the Wowhead page for Arms and on the rotatio...
Initial damage is low, its better to use other globals in avatar
native kite
thanks! makes sense
latent moss
Raidbots says this is really good for me:
good on st badin aoe but u want to craft a weapon with gilded crests anyway
severe nymph
are we meant to have 2 harmonzied silk?
latent moss
wtf is harmonized silk
safe comet
convert gear into set item with it
dire hinge
the catalyst?
severe nymph
yea
dire hinge
that's an every other week thing, usually
severe nymph
o
dire hinge
they front-load you with one
severe nymph
guess im choosing tier for gv then ..
actually.. i need halp
which one of these? neck is 2300 crit 2800 vers, sims higher, but will miss out on tier 2pc . my neck is 590 atm
for context i play both fury arms. but it even sims higher than current mastery/haste neck i use for fury
safe comet
If you do arms and fury, they both use tier legs I guess
Only arms uses tier helm I believe
severe nymph
ah good point
rocky wasp
Is there much difference between the Izo weapon or the crafted weapon with the embellishment? Wowhead says Izo is better but I maybe I don't know why
severe nymph
like 100k on fury for me..
stiff jay
how high u guys think people will push key on week 1?
austere hamlet
anyone crafting 2x 619 duskthread pieces over 636 ascension wep?
shadow ibex
wth is this lame ass arsenal trinket
dire hinge
wth is this lame ass arsenal trinket
Every time you activate the trinket, it will deal damage and then swap to a new passive buff for your character.
At this time there are three "stances" the trinket can be in: Bow, Blades, and Spear.
Stance - Surekian Barrage (Bow)
Active: Shadow damage to all enemies in front of you.
Passive: Remaining stationary builds a speed increase for a short duration the next time you move.
Stance - Surekian Flourish (Blades)
Active: Shadow damage DoT to current target.
Passive: Grants passive parry and Avoidance.
Stance - Surekian Decimation (Spear)
Active: Physical damage in a line, split between hit targets.
Passive: Critical strikes deal 20% more damage to absorb shields.
wanton sierra
lilac lava
Just so I can make sure I have this right: For this week, crafting bracers / cloak with embellishment will prevent crafting the 636 weapon since that takes 2 sparks as well
safe comet
Yurp
Im actually torn between cloak/bracer or a 2h at 619 lol
bracer/cloak with duskthread was a 12k dps increase on sim, and wep was 25k increase
I just know ill craft my wep and have one drop in M+ anyway
hearty dome
any reason not to play slayer now?
dire hinge
slayer has been the choice for a while
gusty oxide
Raidbots says this is really good for me:
It's a good ST weapon, but fall way off in any aoe situation
dire hinge
can do colossus if you waaant to
fresh spire
Hero class you say?
austere iris
arms pulling ahead over fury now?
sacred zodiac
in st sure
split osprey
damn since when
finite grotto
Guys arms or enhance ?! I pull way better numbers on arms, same ilvl. Idk why
latent moss
damn since when
since prepatch
unreal sparrow
'
patent moth
Currently have a 2 piece teir, what should i take
dire hinge
Currently have a 2 piece teir, what should i take
tier is strong, so is trinket (mandate).
which you choose is up to you (and your team)
patent moth
thank you for the advice @dire hinge
cold narwhal
Do we still have different ratings for tyrannical and fortified?
quasi torrent
native dawn
Does int shot pop xalatath orbs?
fresh spire
thank you for the advice <@102221603760271360>
do your raid clear then decide :o7
sacred zodiac
:o7 is fucked up
dire hinge
Does int shot pop xalatath orbs?
i'd assume so but i haven't tested yet. Shockwave owns for it, can get all of em at once
daring pelican
is there a new pin yet on colossus vs slayer after changes for raid dps?
sorry if its been asked a million times already
daring pelican
perfect ty
lethal acorn
I got heroic tier helmet from vault, I took that over tier chest since helm is the boss before the last
slow saddle
i guess for later power u should rly take socket
but that requires a TRUE long game approach ^_^
white anvil
has anyone simmed madness of the betrayer from black temple ?
is there any notable loot 8/8 ?
cobalt sinew
christ on a cracker what should i be doing to not die on the final boss of sob
cloud gyro
raid exploit?
slow saddle
raid exploit?
?_? what exploit the spam bosses for wm
dire hinge
christ on a cracker what should i be doing to not die on the final boss of sob
this can likely help:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEBHMOdk1o
neon niche
raid exploit?
abusive chat 
simple olive
Are we crafting Charged Claymore with Ascension still or did I miss a nerf?
cloud gyro
Are we crafting Charged Claymore with Ascension still or did I miss a nerf?
ascension is ahead by a bit but it checks for combat after 8sec instead of 10sec
simple olive
What if I'm mostly doing M+?
cloud gyro
im doing the vers one
patent quail
IDK WHAT TO PICK? TIER OR TRINKET?!?!?!?
dire hinge
why are we yelling 
that's a great question to ask your raid team, both have their merrits for taking, but it's not something we have a perfect answer for
patent quail
sorry caps lol
minor gust
the real answer is socket
simple olive
Is there a reason all the guides say to craft a 2h Sword and not an Axe?
cloud gyro
should be easier to find crafter for that since more specs like that side of bs tree
but theres no diff
neat yoke
Because they know that most blacksmiths put their knowledge points into swords. That way they don't have to buy the recipes and just get them through knowledge so it's easier to find a crafter
lost field
cloud gyro
what is ST
cloud gyro
save avatar for colossus smash
bladestorm if colossus smash is up soon
otherwise no
send all on cd
steep wedge
should I take cloak (wings of shattered sorrow) at 626 ilvl or Mad queens mandata trink at 606 ilvl
wary mauve
which weakaura can I use that shows if battle shout is not active?
sick bay
still stacking 2 overpwers before MS? or 1 now?
dire hinge
don't care about OP stacks for MS whatsoever
nova marsh
MS on CD until exe
sacred zodiac
baited my guild with this thank you very much
maiden sonnet
Thanks vault, 5/5 full set 🥲
nova marsh
Oof
safe comet
MS on CD until exe
Dont we use OP with Opportunist over MS?
ivory vector
which weakaura can I use that shows if battle shout is not active?
got this allrdy?
leaden oracle
Dont we use OP with Opportunist over MS?
yes
fast nebula
if SD proc has 1 sec left, do we let it drop off unused assuming non of the other conditions are met, like mark and jug stacks not present?
gusty nymph
what is the number for trinkets? /use 15 or 16 right
steep wedge
13 14 i think
safe comet
yes
What if I have 2 stacks already? Still Opportunist over MS? Or do I wanna dump the 2 stacks with MS first?
Someone above said the stacks dont matter anymore
fast nebula
/use 13
/use 14
gusty nymph
ty Bog
fast nebula
16 17 is wep and offhand
dreamy egret
leaden oracle
What if I have 2 stacks already? Still Opportunist over MS? Or do I wanna dump t...
assuming you mean dump EP stacks which is different from the OP stacks mentioned previously, but non-execute you would still send Opportunist OP over MS. In execute if you have 4P Tier you send MS when you have 2 EP and 2 Stacks of 4P
unless you do mean the OP buff
then even still we dont care
safe comet
Yeah I meant the 30% MS damage buff x2 that overpower gives
safe comet
Aight, I've been sending opportunist over it even with 2 stacks, just making sure that was correct lol. Def takes some getting used to
serene zodiac
frank fog
Had to pick between Hero 616 Shoulders/Gloves, Sacbrood, and Transmitter. Never had a vault that juicy before.
grave ravine
whats the current move on embellishments?
read the faq but i heard they were doing balance changes to them in this current build
nova marsh
I haven't heard anything of embellishment tuning this week
wary mauve
got this allrdy?
I do not yet. If you have it, can you share please?
dreamy egret
read the faq but i heard they were doing balance changes to them in this current...
I just did the fury one because of mythic plus shrug I arms for raid
stone relic
hey guys, which bosses should i swap to arms for?
with the fury nerfs
princess and another?
native dawn
best defensives for umbral weave on Izo in threads?
shadow ibex
Everytime I read that arms BS nerf I grow in power and anger
ornate mountain
Indie developers couldn’t nerf it for just one spec
Is anyone playing arms in keys rn
What’s the top performing build
fast wharf
What were you trying to get from supremus anyway?
nova marsh
Is anyone playing arms in keys rn
I just started but the wowhead slayer build is doin good
hard kernel
anyway to path into intimidating for the affix for m+?
nova marsh
I didn't remeber what they were so I just grabbed the wowhead post lol
also genuinely
what is so hard about siege of boralus
white anvil
has anyone simmed this ? cant find on spreadsheet
tw version could go up to like 620 i believe
allegedly 50 percent uptime
ornate mountain
anyway to path into intimidating for the affix for m+?
I took off the heroic leap passive for fear
worldly kernel
I was rewarded greatly
nova marsh
dope sac
worldly kernel
took the neck bigger upgrade over my 2p
shadow ibex
probably not the play but also loot is easy to get anyway
lofty shuttle
it feels like hover has no cooldown lmao
shadow ibex
i dont think decisions are punishing
worldly kernel
i ended up crafting a wep I just wanted to get it out of the way
ionic latch
Is Demolish still weak wit the buffs?
ionic latch
Unlucky
indigo bridge
Hope arms can get rework
nova marsh
I mean honestly
what other spec needs a rework as bad as arms does?
...I guess balance druid?
gleaming kraken
ret thinks it does, everytime i talk to one they're upset they're not topping the meters in aoe and st with the same build
gleaming kraken
f'real
nova marsh
If u still think ret is omega bad just reroll
I'm P sure the change log for ret just in the beta is much longer then arms's
blazing elm
I found myself in a weird situation..... This 616 weapon or 613 bis ring?
nova marsh
Simmy
signal oriole
Neither provides main stat but you can always bank on a weapon at some point with a key. That ring is an rare drop though.
golden anchor
were so fucking back
signal oriole
Could do mists for a quick 2h and farm out the mats to upgrade from a M2. Ring is huge with that crit.
But it's up to you in the long run considering when you're gonna see that ring again.
shadow ibex
ring no doubt you can craft a weapon
signal oriole
I got lucky and it was the choice of 616 cloak, bracers, or tier shoulders.
blazing elm
yeah my eyes just opened wide when I saw all the extra free nature dmg ahha, ring it is
nova marsh
God I'm salty now
M+ group finished without me but just barely overtime
if I just Hadn't dced we would've timed fuck
untold trench
RIP
signal oriole
Either big instance over load or the race for first is getting some denial of service.
torn rivet
the warrior nerfs 
nova marsh
Sounds like a salty warrior main
signal oriole
Could have been worse. Could have eaten like Arcane.
shadow ibex
fuck the ARMS bs nerf
signal oriole
Managed to get back in
paper dove
what is a realistic cooldown of Demolish in M+ environment?
weary mountain
fuck the ARMS bs nerf
Time to try out Colossus then huh?
Demolish just got a buff too.
wanton sierra
Demolish just got a buff too.
where ?
weary mountain
Today's tuning, first two strikes are +20%.
wanton sierra
oh true true
weary mountain
I was playing it anyway 'cuz it's just more fun, but it's nice that it'll hit a bit harder too.
paper dove
are the firs 2 strikes affetcted by sweeping strikes?
wanton sierra
y
dire hinge
Yes
paper dove
thats cool
dire hinge
It’s unfortunately still ~8% behind slayer in 1-target fights, despite the tuning bringing them 2% closer
paper dove
btw, i remember sweeping strikes also affected unhinged, but when i tested it few minutes ago, it didn't at all
weary mountain
It’s unfortunately still ~8% behind slayer in 1-target fights, despite the tunin...
Still 20% ahead in fun though.
Arms go bonk, and that's enough for me.
weary mountain
btw, i remember sweeping strikes also affected unhinged, but when i tested it fe...
They changed it mid-development. Guess that many free CD reductions was a bit much or something.
dire hinge
20% ahead in keeping me awake compared to how sleepy slayer makes me
weary mountain
It was bugged for a bit and still giving the hits, but they fixed it.
paper dove
They changed it mid-development. Guess that many free CD reductions was a bit mu...
ah thats not cool
weary mountain
It does feel kinda bad yeah, but oh well.
paper dove
ima try to go full antimeta and play Clossus arms when m+ comes out
latent cargo
Servers crashing out right at end of PT work day is full troll, feel bad for the server techs
paper dove
EU has maintenance rn
weary mountain
ima try to go full antimeta and play Clossus arms when m+ comes out
If you wanna go full antimeta drop Rend/Thunder Clap and Skullsplitter, and shift the other bleed-buffing talents to MS and Cleave resets and Overpower's execute rage generation.
If you don't care too much about damage (it's not that far behind, but it's definitely behind) it's a really fun playstyle. It feels a lot smoother to me, and the MS CDR for Demolish makes Demolish line up with CS much more often which is also fun.
I'm doing it because of nerve damage in my hands and just needing to cut down on buttons, but it actually does make for a really fun playstyle if you're not pushing high tier content.
paper dove
wait, Skullsplitter is Meta in M+?
weary mountain
Oh maybe not M+, I'm not sure. I think it was in one of the builds I got at one point, but that might have changed since then.
paper dove
that is literally the one button too much for me to have good feeling keybinds to press
ionic latch
A less-bleed intensive build for Colossus actually sounds like fun.
weary mountain
Oh it's actually not that much of a loss to drop it even in raid, that's what I was doing before I went to the no-bleed build.
weary mountain
A less-bleed intensive build for Colossus actually sounds like fun.
It's also SUPER satisfying to get a long chain of Cleave resets in a big AoE pull.
gilded stump
wait, Skullsplitter is Meta in M+?
You can sweep it
paper dove
You can sweep it
that sounds good for 2 target situations be in big M+ AOE pulls sounds not like much
paper dove
Oh it's actually not that much of a loss to drop it even in raid, that's what I ...
guess then out the window with that thing
weary mountain
I wish there was more support for non-bleed builds, but with the Demolish buff and my build giving more Demolishes I'm willing to take the DPS hit to have more fun.
And my guild is only AotC so I don't have to worry about dragging anybody down.
ionic latch
It's also SUPER satisfying to get a long chain of Cleave resets in a big AoE pul...
That sounds huge, honestly. I’ve preferred Colossus over Slayer so I’m def gonna try that iteration of Colossus.
weary mountain
It might be just that the fewer buttons make it easier for me to pilot the build, but it also doesn't seem quite as far behind in damage in actual play than it was in sims, so who knows?
Maybe I've just set the new meta.
paper dove
just compared the talents in the calculator and on paper it sounds as fun as you say actually
paper dove
ima sim the build as soon as servers are up again and see how much of a loss that would be
paper dove
Fun > damage!
i guess there are still classes that would still perform worse than your fun build, which in turn makes it viable enough for me at least
weary mountain
Yeah, good point. Warrior's decently high on the list right now.
paper dove
Yeah, good point. Warrior's decently high on the list right now.
also, your build seems to synergise better with the tier set bonuses if i am correct
weary mountain
Anything that buffs MS will help, yeah.
Servers seem to be working again by the way, for people who were waiting.
paper dove
Mine will be down until 04:00 CET
for maintenance, sucks rn, would love to try the build
weary mountain
Oof, that sucks.
gilded stump
Very bad
paper dove
btw, do you know or could you test what the Demolish Cooldown would be like in AOE situations? like is it 25 sec, more or less?
gilded stump
They will literally gape you a new one
weary mountain
I've heard things, but only run it once myself, when it came up in Heroic.
weary mountain
btw, do you know or could you test what the Demolish Cooldown would be like in A...
I haven't specifically tested but it usually seems to be up right around when CS is, though they're different CDR sources so it can desync a bit.
What I have noticed though is that most of the time you're waiting for Demolish, not CS, and Demolish's CD is usually low enough that you can send CS and the MS/Execute CDR for Demlish will have it up before CS ends.
gilded stump
I'm cooked
Gigacooked
nova marsh
I'm coping
SO HARD
This is going to be a train wreck
sucks a bit more cuz I can't ignore it this season
Gotta git good
gilded stump
You right now
nova marsh
yep
paper dove
What I have noticed though is that *most* of the time you're waiting for Demolis...
that sounds good to mee
weary mountain
We still have a lot of CDs that desync at times, but it definitely seems less pronounced with the CDR increase from this build.
paper dove
We still have a lot of CDs that desync at times, but it definitely seems less pr...
yeah thats always like this when cd's have cdr, they removed it from demo lock and it plays way better now
weary mountain
I will admit it was nice with Fury's current meta build where you just murder everything every 1.5 minutes exactly.
I still like Arms better though.
safe comet
Same, swapped to arms a few days ago
paper dove
I will admit it was nice with Fury's current meta build where you just murder ev...
i just dislike Fury's send it and forget it cooldowns. because after them, youre doing the normal rotation and that rotation really is boring af imho
weary mountain
I don't mind it when I just wanna kinda zone out, but yeah.
paper dove
I don't mind it when I just wanna kinda zone out, but yeah.
understandable
weary mountain
Oh yeah. If you watch the FCT instead of Details it's definitely bigger numbers.
paper dove
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/38#difficulty=4 btw how come arms has such a bad performing lower half of the playerbase? usually that speaks of a higher skill floor
weary mountain
Because Arms has a higher skill floor.
At least compared to Fury anyway, and some other specs.
Also could be that there's a lot of movement in some of these bosses, and Demolish might be messing some people up too.
Getting used to the root has taken a moment.
paper dove
kinda weird considering some youtuber put arms in "easiest" in some kind of difficulty tier list, i played a lot of classes and never would i have put arms in easiest
nova marsh
if ur running it
paper dove
Also could be that there's a lot of movement in some of these bosses, and Demoli...
they are all playing slayer
weary mountain
Are they? Like is that an actual thing we know or just an assumption?
Because my instinct would be that a lot of the lower performing players are more likely to be running Colossus because it's the higher performing players that tend to care more about chasing the meta.
paper dove
Are they? Like is that an actual thing we know or just an assumption?
i clicked through many pages of the rankings
shadow ibex
you can cont the logs yourself
weary mountain
Ah, okay.
shadow ibex
no ones playing colossus because its really bad
weary mountain
I'll have you know I just topped the meters in LFR, so there.
paper dove
i was in LFR today, and the third highes DPS was 50% behind the second highest
shadow ibex
even if we're generous and sort by boss dmg
weary mountain
What a remarkable measurement merit
Hey, it made me feel good, and I've decided that's what I care about now.
I've never really enjoyed chasing the meta, so I've decided as long as I can keep up with my guild I'm happy.
white anvil
why does noone take warlord's torment in the class tree?
fury has such a good class tree node in the odyn one
what holds arms back?
weary mountain
Yeah, cutting it to 25% effectiveness basically killed it.
nova marsh
an d removing it from a whole ability
weary mountain
It's in the raid ST build on Wowhead but I'm not even sure I wanna keep it there.
nova marsh
sigh
Ya know what I love? doing almost a vault's worth of 2s
and none of them timed
man pugs are really really bad
vital rune
Trying out Slayer after starting with Col. Sim shows that Overpower should be above MS but haven't found that to be the case. Am I doing something wrong somewhere?
nova marsh
It is with tactican resets
nova marsh
yes
nova marsh
sigh
LITERAL SECONDS from a timed
This is actual depressing
And yes 17 deaths in a 2 please kill me
shadow ibex
how
nova marsh
It's grim batol
shadow ibex
are yall walking backwards into pulls
nova marsh
and people can't do the last boss for shit
Like seriously
It was going so well up to the last boss
Then we wiped 3 times and tank had to repair
weary mountain
I think I might do that one in a guild group then...
nova marsh
Yeah that and siege
cuz people can't do that last boss eitehr lmao
Like what is this
quick edge
Cloak/vambraces still what we should craft first?
nova marsh
The last boss of Grim isn't even that bad
weary mountain
Are prices on things going down yet?
I'm not crafting anything until it's not utterly ridiculous to get the mats.
dreamy egret
nah buy a wow token
paper dove
So i simmed the Fury M+ and your colossus arms build (but with rend) for Dungeon Slice and it turns out its only roughly 3% behind @weary mountain
this the arms build
at least for my gear tho
weary mountain
So i simmed the Fury M+ and your colossus arms build (but with rend) for Dungeo...
Oh seriously? Nice! I'm assuming this includes Thunder Clap for the M+ bleeds?
paper dove
Oh seriously? Nice! I'm assuming this includes Thunder Clap for the M+ bleeds?
thunderclap is still in it, otherwise i would not have picked rend as well
weary mountain
Yeah I figured, just wanted to check.
paper dove
Pure ST tho, it is 11,5% behind
slim badger
colossus is lit now?
weary mountain
Demolish upgrade is a big help, but we're talking about my build that basically just says fuck the meta.
It turns out it's not as bad as even I expected.
slim badger
can u share it? :3
weary mountain
slim badger
thank you big boss
weary mountain
This is what I'm currently running, but keep in mind this is based mostly on the fact that I have nerve damage in my hands, so I have to cut some buttons to be able to handle the keybinds.
slim badger
is this for M+?
weary mountain
It's not going to perform as well as other builds, it's purely to help me deal with a disability, but also it happens to be pretty fun.
Yeah, this is the M+ build. The raid version is basically the meta raid build but with all these same changes made.
weary mountain
Sure!
nova marsh
I am copppingggg
weary mountain
It might be better to just take a break.
It's only day one, maybe people will be more used to it if you come back after a while.
Getting more and more frustrated is just gonna hurt your own performance, after all.
nova marsh
Unfortauntely I am a very stubborn human being with very limited time this week
And also my guild is asleep already :(
timber wasp
Should i play fury or arms, just switched to war mained fury and arms is looking promising in raid even though fury is dominating m+
vital rune
What's the spear/bomb order in NW these days?
nova marsh
If you have experience as fury I'd say just play fury
rare kite
Should i play fury or arms, just switched to war mained fury and arms is looking...
Play whatever you are better at. Both specs are good
lime saffron
How is arms compared to fury now?
rare kite
How is arms compared to fury now?
Better st now for sure
lime saffron
Better st now for sure
Ty, i'll probably give it a try tonight then
nova marsh
Yeah
the cope is OMEGA HIGH tn
So
REmind me
Why can't we leap in BS?
ONE KEY TIMED
LES GOOOOO
warm onyx
I'd think about trying out arms in Raid if I had any crit on my gear 😅
warm onyx
I might demo it in LFR see how I feel ^^
nova marsh
Gear isn't the problem crests is
But I haven't even seen a dev post about it or confirmed reports of it being fixed so probally not
vestal kestrel
CAn somsone tell me why we play collasus smash and not warbreaker, especially in AOE, where it seems like we hit the button but it only does damage to one target?
shadow ibex
its like a free mortal strike on each target so dmg isnt super impressive and the blunt 3 sec longer is 3 sec longer haste and dmg debuff on 2 with sweeping
and is mega good on single target
CS lasts 10 seconds so 3 seconds is a 30% increase on length w
dire hinge
tldr: warbreaker isn't as good even if you think it might be
vestal kestrel
I figured that damage isn't good, it just seems weird to take an ability in an AOE talent set up that only hits one target.
shadow ibex
well it hits 2
vestal kestrel
so you are saying the damamge to all targets ins't worth the ST loss
shadow ibex
lots of the time
dire hinge
so you are saying the damamge to all targets ins't worth the ST loss
correct
shadow ibex
the aoe loss isnt that big because increased haste is nice for aoe as well
dire hinge
In AoE it's like a 3% loss it's just not needed.
In Single Target you gain like 12%
shadow ibex
WB hits about as hard as a mortal strike
BI boosts it by 30%
just not a hard hitting ability at all
dire hinge
less about the damage of WB itself, they're likely referencing the 30% dps (CS) it applies, but even with that, it's not worth it in dungeons
fallen hearth
anyone got some numbers between blademasters torment and reduced roar cd?
for colo
minor gust
weird thing to just have on hand. Just sim it yourself
fallen hearth
not that weird
tiny rampart
thoughts on Shadow-Binding Ritual Knife? its either that or 616 set legs
ofc trinket sims highest but is it any good? seems like the proc is pretty low
lusty creek
I found myself in a weird situation..... This 616 weapon or 613 bis ring?
dropped the same stuff, this one simmed a lot for me
still fox
hey, i have 1x wrist with embelish (Vers) and next i go same is it wayne cloack or neck?
or go with with the crit embelish?
only play M+
sullen plover
Hero track 2h or trinket? I already have omen spark crafted weapon… and play both arms/fury
atomic mountain
do we have a guide for simming? never did
atomic mountain
Hero track 2h or trinket? I already have omen spark crafted weapon… and play bot...
stay arms and take trinked
atomic mountain
hey, i have 1x wrist with embelish (Vers) and next i go same is it wayne cloack...
#dps-faq click on embelish
wraith cave
i cant find emblishment for weapons in guides
atomic mountain
<#1237303208754286715> click on embelish
@wraith cave
umbral gyro
Hey guys. How is arms doing in dungeon and raid after nerfs ?
wraith cave
<@213713930353115136>
i did but cant find for weapon only shows best 2 which is block and wrist
atomic mountain
i did but cant find for weapon only shows best 2 which is block and wrist
what is exactly the problem?
wraith cave
i want to know whats the best emblishment for weapon
since the best one inguide isn't applicale for weapon
atomic mountain
cunning sleet
if i think im never getting a mythic wep, is it still not worth it to craft a wep?
atomic mountain
if i think im never getting a mythic wep, is it still not worth it to craft a we...
then it is your only BiS wep. can be upgradet to 636 with embelish also as good as mythic wep
atomic mountain
since the best one inguide isn't applicale for weapon
my pic. read the 1st blue words
wraith cave
thanks!
dire hinge
do we have a guide for simming? never did
umbral gyro
Hey guys. How is arms doing in dungeon and raid after nerfs ?
atomic mountain
https://www.wowhead.com/news/use-raidbots-to-find-your-best-great-vault-dps-upgr...
❤️ thx found it also while browsing wowhead 2 min ago
dire hinge
Hey guys. How is arms doing in dungeon and raid after nerfs ?
perfectly fine, the nerfs were exceedingly inconsequential to all specs. You can find this, and other information in #updates-midnight
hardy olive
why my TC apply only 1 rend zzzzz
umbral gyro
perfectly fine, the nerfs were exceedingly inconsequential to all specs. You can...
Thank you sir
dire hinge
why my TC apply only 1 rend zzzzz
🤔 it should hit up to 5
double check that it's actually Thunder Clap on your bars (and not a macro with the Thunder Clap icon),
frosty basin
wooohoo
spare laurel
huge, gz
weary mountain
I think I've decided that my favorite part of Colossus is in group content, when you see a chunk fall off a boss bar and you can say "That was me. I did that specific chunk."
It's the simple pleasures in life.
atomic mountain
nice. but i cant enjoy colossus XD
atomic mountain
Was arms whole of Df and still staying arms
arms since BfA 😄
before i play fury i swapp to my monk or DH
frosty basin
In bfa I only played arms in uldir
gusty oxide
Veeeery nice !
still fox
why is vers better than crit? and cloak or neck is diff.?
fallen dome
Double duskthread works right? Even if the buff only says 756?
cold narwhal
try taking dmg and relogging to fix it
fallen dome
Taking dmg worked when I healed up above the 80% threshold. Thanks!
balmy kindle
https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif...
TBF I think most warrior mains are either skinny like asmon or jacked like pilav / bahj
I know I mained warrior because started watching pilav / bahj
balmy kindle
Take the weapon is what I'll do, got trash for 616
But trinket is nice too if u wanna craft weapon
balmy kindle
Yeah i spoke too soon, but I don't think either is bad. Weapon would probably give more % in terms of immediate damage upgrade though
cunning sleet
what is best way to sim all stat variations for a crafted item? droptimizer only allows for 1 set of stats
atomic mountain
why is vers better than crit? and cloak or neck is diff.?
that is a question for the pros. i dont know 😄 only following guides :3
cunning sleet
My best guess would be that it decreases damage taken while increasing your damage a reasonable amount
Back in bfa, you would stack vers for that reason for example
spare laurel
TBF I think most warrior mains are either skinny like asmon or jacked like pilav...
probably true, real zug zug men irl kek
worldly kernel
necrotic wake is such a fucking troll key
if you get the season affix the aboms can hook them
🤡
reef glade
lul
copper ocean
How much does your exexute crit for guys?
dire hinge
if you get the season affix the aboms can hook them
oh no
balmy kindle
if you get the season affix the aboms can hook them
Small indie company 
glossy sky
eu servers still down ?
pulsar elk
hey can someone help me understand because i think the tooltip is a bit misleading
implies that colossus smash increases damage by 60%?
but it still just shows 30% on the tooltip
hexed saddle
zenith warren
neck isnt a good duskthread spot is it?
warm onyx
I think cloak and bracers are the preferred
teal fossil
idk if the aoe is worth
People run blunt almost always
frosty basin
anyone did some higher level keys, how does it feels as arms?
halcyon grove
Trinket for sure
ornate mountain
how is arms in keys?
ornate mountain
i think its prob decent in high keys
but low keys seems ass
but ive only been playin fury
halcyon grove
You cant beat fury fast aoe burst with arms esting all the low trash
arctic hearth
Yeah i’ve been playing fury as well. Tried a bit of arms while lvling and in HC duengons and slayer felt good to play for me but fury dmg profile was just better when things die quick. Arms has better sustained aoe?
ornate mountain
if the mobs are living like legit 6 years the sustain is pretty good
smoky berry
Trinket for sure
bro i aint sure m8, so har to pick
is that trinket not a super pain to play with also
warm onyx
Sometimes you gotta walk three steps or jump. I don't think that's gonna kill you:P
pallid cove
is colssus more viable now with demo hits harder or have to stay slayer ?
would enjoy a collsus raid build
proven trellis
I’m still a little confused when it comes to cooldown usage on arms. Are we essentially holding colossus smash or avatar at points to line up with another? Or is it just mostly sending it all on cooldown
gusty oxide
If avatar is very close to colossus you can hold , but not more than 5seconds
Idealy you want To avatar just before smashing
proven trellis
Alright thank you I appreciate it
weak wave
Wrong channel
cloud gyro
what are u guys playing in m+
vast galleon
arms
boreal quartz
Planning on slayer
tranquil sundial
juggernaut build or the AoE one?
zenith warren
anyone of you guys completed to kill a queen? quest chain seems fucked on my end
tranquil sundial
Prolly jugg
yeah seems to slap
also used to DF so thats what im doing 😛
cannot play without massacre now
misty yew
Why Blunt over WB in M+?
thick kelp
big st for lil tiny aoe lose
wary steppe
i think colossus needs a slight rework in 11.0.5 together with the multiplier of MS dmg
dense vector
Any raid builds popping up with no SKS?
crimson steppe
Should I pick the tier chest?
plucky zenith
run a sim
slow saddle
Should I pick the tier chest?
i mean its socket or chest imho
crimson steppe
I figured, just saw the neck was labeled under "Very Rare" in loot and has a LOT of haste
trim skiff
what the actual fuck is this m+ tuning btw?
its insane how some bosses are massively overtuned
trim skiff
anything compared to mists of tirna is just massively overtuned with no counterplay
split robin
Thinking about going arms due to just have one 2 handed and big number.
But would u guys say arms rotation is harder than fury?
Maybe a dumb question but would love to hear ur guys take
trim skiff
we're getting fucking demolished in a +7 city of threads
with the healer holding out 1.1m hps
sharp lark
go for sureki beccause its 6/6 already? the trinket(s) sim really bad and i already have boots...
cinder verge
Well, Sureki IS a rare drop and highly contested
And champ tier is kinda mid
Our tier set in general is mid tbh
mortal rivet
Def Sureki or seal, everything else can be farmed
Seal is more spec agnostic since fury doesn’t want the neck
plucky zenith
it does just feel like im taking boatloads of damage from everything
cinder verge
timed a +7 stonevault but damn do things hit hard
icy mulch
I timed a +7 siege, it was tight but we timed it. Had a Rogue that was watching the floor a lot.
We also ended up over pulling 6%
wary steppe
anyone tried to do a high key with colossus? how does it perform at higher keys where we have some time
slim hazel
Slayer or ColoSsus Which One is better for M+ ?
vivid heart
Thinking about going arms due to just have one 2 handed and big number.
But woul...
It’s not hard, but a little bit harder than fury
atomic mountain
Slayer or ColoSsus Which One is better for M+ ?
slayer
fossil rampart
Slayer or ColoSsus Which One is better for M+ ?
colossus thrives in aoe and is stronger compared to bladestorm, if you ask me, i'd say colossus. i'm probably bias but for m+ colossus is very solid
split robin
It’s not hard, but a little bit harder than fury
❤️
fossil rampart
both specs are super good, depends on your playstyle
plucky zenith
colossus is spikier but bigger numbers, slayer has more consistent dmg but a tad less
slayer pulls ahead on bosses
either is fine because if you were going for full optimal play you'd be fury
atomic mountain
if you like to be animation stuck yes. wait till you got cc in higher tiers 😄 (when you cant cast full colossus it also deals no dmg)
slayer still mor constant dmg. and be honest. in m+ are most likely more aoe monsters than ST player cuase everyone wanna see big numbers. Play for safe ST with cleave and do your party a favour
copper ocean
Why does crit Sim lower than mastery for me?
plucky zenith
maybe you have hit a breakpoint where mastery would be a bigger dps increase for now
even though crit is best secondary we still need some of the other stats
copper ocean
30% mastery 22% haste 15% crit Sims higher than 24 % mastery 21% haste 19% crit
narrow flax
dont worry too much about it
otherwise people will start sending this
simming stat weights usually is somewhat of a bait and not that reliable
fossil rampart
if you like to be animation stuck yes. wait till you got cc in higher tiers 😄 (...
the root is seriously not that big of a deal and if you're gettign cc'd in higher keys then that is simply a you problem, casting demolish with even 5 stacks does good damage but it is so easy to build demolish stacks that should never be the case, for me i have max stack demolish pack to pack. slayer's the more simple route but still just as effective. all depends on playstyle and what you can use more effectively. and again if you're dying to mechanics and letting your team down, that's on you
neon niche
the root is seriously not that big of a deal and if you're gettign cc'd in highe...
tldr skill issue
fossil rampart
copper ocean
simming stat weights usually is somewhat of a bait and not that reliable
So how do people come to a conclusion that one Stat is more beneficial than the other isn't it by simming?
narrow flax
So how do people come to a conclusion that one Stat is more beneficial than the ...
there usually is certain % threshholds that ppl go for
but in general its more items that they are focussed on than specific stats
on arms haste and crit are a bit stronger than mastery vers
but if you get too much of a stat, the amount that you get from it gets reduced a bit (diminishing returns)
so just focus on getting your items to a higher ilvl cuz that will almost always be a damage increase
unless ur talking about trinkets
drifting apex
So guys, with all we know now what's are the embellish and craft we must do?
steady sigil
might be a dumb question but should we have loot spec as arms or fury when opening vault? havent played in a while and i want to remember last time it was better to spec as fury for higher chance of wep
or is it th other way around?
steady sigil
yeah i just remembered that's why you changed loot spec
hard kernel
clever bolt
What target count do you keep mortal striking in m+?
shadow ibex
just like IRL, my colossus smash got parried in ansurek story mode
Get textured
copper ocean
So in multi target situations do i just use my overpower casually or only save overpower for cleave proc?
neon niche
So in multi target situations do i just use my overpower casually or only save o...
mbg window is cleave prio / ms on prio targets
outside mbg and ss is cleave with op as filler
my guy is spending 24/7 asking questions on this channel just watch a video pov stream read an article touch grass idk
warm olive
my guy is spending 24/7 asking questions on this channel just watch a video pov ...
Arms Chat is kinda chatgpt
copper ocean
my guy is spending 24/7 asking questions on this channel just watch a video pov ...
i like when other people do it for me
warm olive
but it is real people aswering with big anger issues
neon niche
Arms Chat is kinda chatgpt
can always watch a video from critcake I swear he is an AI
atomic mountain
having no str seems like a loss
for ST fights nice
chilly parcel
So - would we use Treacherous Transmitter for Raid, or tend to avoid it?
scarlet geode
So what we craft now wowhead and icyveins have different bis lists
distant epoch
So - would we use Treacherous Transmitter for Raid, or tend to avoid it?
If you get yourself killed or can’t complete the tasks safely during an encounter stick to a different trinket
kind stag
wheres this from
fringe moon
So - would we use Treacherous Transmitter for Raid, or tend to avoid it?
Not the easiest trinket to use. The visual for the task is impossible to see most of the time in raid. In m+ it’s ok. But raid is very difficulty and easy to miss your buff
normal marsh
wheres this from
kind stag
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1exJeu5eVe4bTmyg3WFx5PTxIWvDLi0j-WW-X...
cool cool never seen this before
fast wharf
the word treacherous suits that trinket
fringe moon
the word treacherous suits that trinket
Tbh, the buff needs to be bigger with how difficult it is to use.
chilly parcel
Not the easiest trinket to use. The visual for the task is impossible to see mos...
Thanks!
slow saddle
did Arcane rly loose 200k
nova marsh
Tbh, the buff needs to be bigger with how difficult it is to use.
And I got told I was spreading misinformation by calling it annoying
I just depise trinkets that extra steps cuz they're almost never worth it
Dance partners from nath anyone?
glacial moat
Fuck I hated puzzle box from df and refused to use it because the channel annoyed me
nova marsh
Fair but at least I only really used puzzle in keys w bladestorm tech
smoky berry
i am so unsure on what to craft, do i go for the wep? i have heroic trac wep already from cort. or do i go for the wrist and back crafT?
nova marsh
Then it's a good thing I'm just doing keys this time around and not really raid focused
nova marsh
Actually have a vet khandros
glacial moat
Egg sac plus the mad queen nuke button is my plan
nova marsh
Shit slaps
buoyant plank
Where we pick quest to kill queen ?
native dawn
Where we pick quest to kill queen ?
it's a chain, starts with a little spider in dornogal by where the faction embassys are
odd palm
is this shit? sims the same as my 584 Void Pactstone
dire hinge
is this shit? sims the same as my 584 Void Pactstone
trust the sims
im wearing a hero one because it did about the same as a 610 Ritual Dagger trinket, but without the drawbacks
stoic anvil
Timewarped means its from timewalking raids ?
glacial moat
Yeah
ebon hollow
how do i spread rend in aoe btw? you dont play thunderclap anymore?
soft dew
Yes you do play TC in AoE
glacial moat
Does anyone do log analysis for keys?
Real hard to do analysis on keys unless it's like "you could have pressed a CD at least 4 more times" kinda stuff
past axle
is spelunker's candle being greatly overvalues in sims atm?
remote talon
I'd assume not, it's a pretty good trinket
fast wharf
and you can share your buff with friends 🙂
shadow ibex
im wearing a hero one because it did about the same as a 610 Ritual Dagger trink...
hero one is from the cache?
remote talon
why we take versa embelishment and not crit?
you can take crit, it's just if you've stacked crit on your gear already, vers can be better
thorny sierra
Does anyone have a good macro or cast sequence thing for sweeping strikes for arms
I am stoopid
And need help
remote talon
sweeping strikes? it's like... you hit sweeping strikes
glacial moat
Thought crit haste are bis stats
Value of crit is diminished because you should have so much on gear already. Vers pulls ahead if you have comparatively little
remote talon
and then... you hit other stuff
dire hinge
hero one is from the cache?
yeah, you get 1 random hero piece from cache
glacial moat
Do you mean "what is my ability prio during sweeping strikes"?
dire hinge
Does anyone have a good macro or cast sequence thing for sweeping strikes for ar...
No, you'll want to bind it separately since it doesn't always align with other cooldowns.
thorny sierra
No, you'll want to bind it separately since it doesn't always align with other c...
Nooooo
dire hinge
yes.
remote talon
it also has a (half) GCD so
thorny sierra
Wait what do you mean
glacial moat
Still feels gross
thorny sierra
Half gcd
dire hinge
You can't macro it to other abilities still, because it's on the gcd
remote talon
it's on the GCD, but it's half of a normal GCD
dire hinge
nor would you want to
dire hinge
Any time there is more than 1 target, press Sweeping Strikes if it's available
thorny sierra
Oh ok that’s ez
remote talon
(unless you're about to bladestorm)
thorny sierra
And we also get skillspliter?
past axle
I'd assume not, it's a pretty good trinket
the listed tooltip on sims/wowhead is like 2x what is is in game, is that intentional for the sharing aspect of the trinket?
thorny sierra
Skullsplinter?
dire hinge
Skullsplitter yes
thorny sierra
Just use on cd as well?
dire hinge
I might direct you to our lovely rotational guides which answer all rotation questions: https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715
You can use the top section to pick your favorite guide site, and each of them have rotations listed for different content types (single target, aoe, etc)
thorny sierra
I cant read 
dire hinge
i believe in you
dire hinge
here's our AoE rotation, for example:
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#multitarget
dire hinge
you can use colossus if you want, just select that side of the tree instead
glacial moat
I mean. You CAN
dire hinge
shadow ibex
yea its p bad
dire hinge
AoE is a little closer iirc
icy magnet
how are we simming post tuning? still need to play fury? ^^
thorny sierra
Shrodinger’s shlong
dire hinge
how are we simming post tuning? still need to play fury? ^^
this channel is your best friend for stuff like that
#updates-midnight message
icy magnet
ye I saw that one :[
dire hinge
arms still wins in single target, but most of the raid is not single target
if your group needs AoE, fury is a solid option, but arms is good for priority damage
icy magnet
problem with simi hardcore guilds, they look at overall damage XD
dire hinge
lmao, real
fossil rampart
anyone else playing colossus in m+? this shit slaps
dire hinge
It's still solid, as long as they dont think stacking multiple fury warriors will somehow kill the boss faster
it's not an infinite dps glitch 😂
weary mountain
anyone else playing colossus in m+? this shit slaps
I'm playing Colossus in everything, it's just more fun.
fossil rampart
I'm playing Colossus in everything, it's just more fun.
winged relic
anyone else playing colossus in m+? this shit slaps
What does the full build look like?
fossil rampart
you mean the talent tree?
winged relic
you mean the talent tree?
Yea
fossil rampart
that's what i use for m+
shadow ibex
its actually insane how long you can go without getting x2 4pc stacks
doing grim earlier did like 7 executes before getting tact proc
and thats just 1 still gotta get the other
sharp pawn
jo guys is it a good choice to craft a cloak and bracers right now or should i craft a weapon ?? ?
i play more m+ then raid
dire hinge
jo guys is it a good choice to craft a cloak and bracers right now or should i c...
this will ultimately be your call, both are pretty even performance wise.
fossil rampart
jo guys is it a good choice to craft a cloak and bracers right now or should i c...
i mainly waited for m+ week and no major changes so i'm going with crafting a wrist rn because it sims a little higher than the cloak plus works out for me gear wise. as for embellishment i'm going with vers, just easier to maintain overall and i'm an m+ guy and not so bad on raid either
dreamy ice
dire hinge
ah, yeah good catch. It'll more likely be bracers/belt. there's a good cloak you can eventually get you dont want to conflict with
late lynx
should i upgrade a champion piece to tier for 2 set? got a hero tier piece already
sharp pawn
got a hero bealt in the vault 😭
dire hinge
should i upgrade a champion piece to tier for 2 set? got a hero tier piece alrea...
2p isn't a big gain (less than 1%, in all content, for all builds), so i wouldn't recommend it, personally. I'd save that for a higher quality piece
shadow ibex
the demo tooltip is so funny
said fuck it
im just gonna say 1 million
im not doing 6 0's
1 BILLION TRILLION
dire hinge
haha
shadow ibex
i actually love that shit
they still didnt fix sweeping + BS or ravager giving x2 stacks of might
unborn canyon
Lol
echo monolith
when is it acceptable to just rage cap?
cause in bladestorm i get a lot of rage e.g. so id wanna start at 0 ideally but that rarely ever happens
nova marsh
So question: did ice trap get nerfed
random shale
I got a 416 Befouler's syringe from the chest, should I get it?
I am between this and tier chest
random ridge
Sim
shadow ibex
with ravager BS bug and sweeping you can get 10 demo stacks before sweeping expires
glacial moat
I simmed the syringe, didn't sim great for arms. It's good for fury though
shadow ibex
actually kinda hot
sullen plover
ah, yeah good catch. It'll more likely be bracers/belt. there's a good cloak you...
I know the cloak is good. But then shouldn’t we craft boots like we did in DF?
fresh spire
sullen plover
I am between this and tier chest
I got this in a delv. It’s good for single target fury — tried it in raid and reflects what the sims are saying
shadow ibex
if i execute i have no rage to do anything
sullen plover
In execute phase you’re spamming that shit
shadow ibex
demo cast on mists maze pack
random shale
I got this in a delv. It’s good for single target fury — tried it in raid and re...
Nice, thanks!
glacial moat
Demo is such a fun button lol
shadow ibex
im leaning heavy into this sweeping bug atm
so much CDR/stacks
you can get demo back before sweeping ends
rustic lake
what's the bug?
steady sigil
im dumb, should we focus tier set from vault even if ilvl is lower than other items?
river ridge
so much CDR/stacks
I keep losing forgetting it's off CD because it comes back so fast @-@;
shadow ibex
charge into pull press MS cleave and ravager gets 10 stacks in like 4 seconds
bam
2mil tooltip ability
may they never fix this
normal marsh
hit a 7 milli execute today, feelsgoodman
shadow ibex
what's the bug?
we no longer get x2 MS casts when ravager/BS with sweeping but you still get x2 stacks of colossus buff
so ravager/BS is worth 6 stacks or 12 seconds of CDR, not counting the real hardcasted MS/cleaves you'll do during pull that give stacks
shut shore
I got a 416 Befouler's syringe from the chest, should I get it?
doesnt seem good for arms. My 619 weapon was decently ahead of a 619 one
fossil mantle
Does anyone else feel like Dreadnaught is a scam? Its only 2.2% of my damage in dungeouns, I feel like strength in arms is such a better pick honestly.
random shale
doesnt seem good for arms. My 619 weapon was decently ahead of a 619 one
Just simmed, it seems like it's good on ST but on AOE it loses on a T ier chest I got in the vault
cloud gyro
Does anyone else feel like Dreadnaught is a scam? Its only 2.2% of my damage in ...
yes its troll
go the overpower crit one
light dirge
hey guys, does anyone have a good WA for tracking rend? preferably one with a sound q ?
dire hinge
hey guys, does anyone have a good WA for tracking rend? preferably one with a so...
most Arms rotation packs on Wago.io will have this, you'll just need to extract Rend out of the pack.
To add sound, you'll likely need to modify it yourself to match your needs/preferences
distant epoch
hey guys, does anyone have a good WA for tracking rend? preferably one with a so...
Find the rend aura > conditions > new condition > add one under that uses the trigger for duration remaining > play sound master channel
sullen plover
im dumb, should we focus tier set from vault even if ilvl is lower than other it...
Tier set isn’t very strong this season. Prioritize weapon, trinket, special effects in that order—where we get most of our damage.
Unless you really don’t have any upgrades from vault it should be fine. Preferred is hero or mythic track (if you’re raiding mythic)
Also I would save your catalyst for at least hero/mythic track
shadow ibex
most Arms rotation packs on Wago.io will have this, you'll just need to extract ...
YOU PLAYING COL
?
shadow ibex
yea
dire hinge
It's my preferred tree, but so far I've been doing primarily Slayer
I'll probably start doing it in M+, but I've been on tank duty for my guild so far so I haven't DPS'd many keys
shadow ibex
kinda fun in keys rn
fierce basin
Arms better for raid?
manic stirrup
