arms

[soft dew]

I mean Arms is clearly above Fury

[atomic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/that-hot-thats-hot-thats-hot-flipped-that-hot-flipped-that-hot-inverted-gif-19052204

[thick hamlet]

ST = Arms
AOE = Arms
Fury = doodoo butter

[soft dew]

^

[fossil rampart]

Lmao

Dude is saying that while fury warriors top charts by miles. Lets be honest, it needed a nerf, no one saw it coming but it is what it is

[gusty oxide]

And it's a "nerf"

[soft dew]

No, everyone saw it coming

[gusty oxide]

More like a slap on the wrist

[vapid bay]

we saw it coming

[fossil rampart]

Exactly

[soft dew]

It was expected and it was way less than we could've gotten in the past

I remember blizzard killing specs in the past

[fossil rampart]

I mean fury over performing by miles. The nerfs were obvious

But fury still tops everyone so it doesn't really matter

[soft dew]

I guess the second nerf was "unexpected"

[quick vale]

crit/vers or haste/mast on the same ilvl?

[soft dew]

Sim it

[fossil rampart]

Haste/mast unless you're overcapping but just sim it

[tropic eagle]

Fury gonna drop from top spot probably so I can see how that makes some people mad but like brothers, you are still in the top 1-3/5 top performing specs and competitive chill 😂

[opaque citrus]

Fotm rerollers crying

What else is new

[untold trench]

In the raid, problem is ya know, rest of the content

[tropic eagle]

Man Im just glad I dont have to wait 8 months for the spec I play since tbc to be viable for once

[tropic eagle]

You outperform in M+ on fury now worst case it will be toe to toe and skill wins I dont see the issue?

[untold trench]

If it is still beta tuned, once ya get into 12 area, thing really started to flatten out. Warlocks and mages started to overtake my DPS

Once you are over the point where adds instantly die, fury falls and quickly

Don't think m0 is a balance point, I beg

[tropic eagle]

People are not getting in 12s anytime soon most of them anyway

[vapid bay]

i hope people dont start playing arms now, we must not let blizzard think arms is ok

[ebon garden]

Let the fury play arms as they want, the will just lower the global DPS stats and we will be boosted as arms by blizzard.

[tropic eagle]

This is true!

My 98s can finally be 99s!

[flat willow]

Yes, arms is so hard to play

[ebon garden]

true arms players , i Love you all o/

[vapid bay]

idk about hard rather clunky

[flat willow]

Fury players could never

Its a joke

[tropic eagle]

Its like ying yang right

[ebon garden]

yeah this, dont even talking about demolish

[flat willow]

Arms is the easiest spec in the game

With aug evoker maybe

[paper summit]

did everyone craft a weapon with sparks already?

[tropic eagle]

Fury is fast straight forward and arms is controlled set upy

[flat willow]

No

Its not

They are about the same pace

[tropic eagle]

Lol no

[vapid bay]

yea slayer feels clunky in aoe, scared to even try demo

[tropic eagle]

Hasted herod fury is much faster than arms ever is

[flat willow]

And there's 0 thinking about arms gameplay

[ebon garden]

the Spike is insane if done well for collossus

but planet need to align for it

[vapid bay]

yea but nothing lines up

[tropic eagle]

Much more thougth than fury but you play how you feel you play

[flat willow]

No this is not how anything works

[vapid bay]

and if it does, you dont crit demolish and then just cry

[tropic eagle]

Must get crit

[ebon garden]

you will crit demolish, but only when there is one target on the cone while the 10 others are slowly leaving with the tank 😄

[tropic eagle]

100% is not enough!

[tropic eagle]

This, and it will break the third channel cause out of range

[ebon garden]

This is the worst acutally

[vast blade]

How much stat rating is equal to 1%?

[ebon garden]

i can adapt the the stationnary thing

damn we can even Aoe stun just before if needed

but that channel break, it fears me

[tropic eagle]

Yeah stationary is fine

[ebon garden]

depend on stats

class and spec also

[tropic eagle]

Just needs to be not having to actually channel it from a mob instead make it a cone in front of you

[vast blade]

Crit and Haste then for Arms

[ebon garden]

yep, but the main problem is that the two first it are mono target,

[tropic eagle]

You want to go big evoker friend blows your targeted demolish mob with his wings GG noob

[ebon garden]

and i feel they dont want to make it aoe , even if it's very low

[tropic eagle]

Yeah thats dumb too

[ebon garden]

they can even forget the 2 first hit and just make a big hit on cone after the cast time, i will be okay with that

time to up your sword, and guts smash after 2 sec

minus haste

[obtuse totem]

should Arms sim dungeon slice for M+?

[wanton sierra]

today is the day we shall push some dungeons!!! ❤️

[ebon garden]

OR, give us a cone that we can see before sending it, like all those round Aoe marker you get (blizzard, Meteor, leap)

[glacial moat]

Never liked dungeon slice.

Always done patchwork single target then patchwork 3-5 for simming dungeon stuff

Maybe slice is better now though

[obtuse totem]

For patchwork 3 - 5 what time do you use?

The mad queens mandate doesnt sim properly on 1 minute because of the CD

[halcyon breach]

Wdym it doesn't sim properly

[atomic mountain]

huh?

[wanton sierra]

i think it should hit like warbreaker, all around us... we are demolishing, not fighting fencing

[halcyon breach]

If you sim a 1 minute encounter, it will sim accordingly

[obtuse totem]

It sims really weak, Idk if it takes the CD reduction into account

[wanton sierra]

ye m+ shall be enabled, or am im missing the day again?

[halcyon breach]

You'd have to find a way to emulate the CDR on it, idk what it'd be though

[vapid bay]

Tomorrow if you are not in the usa

[ebon garden]

doesn't solve the issue of channel cutting, i am okay with the frontal actually

[atomic mountain]

well i have m+ enabled tomorow

[obtuse totem]

Thats the problem, I got no clue how I would

[scarlet geode]

I go mental with Nexus pug groups

[obtuse totem]

thats why I was wondering if dungeon slice is usable now

[sacred zodiac]

just double the mandate damage no

quick maths

[obtuse totem]

HMMM

[wanton sierra]

damn idk then! i though it was today

[atomic mountain]

you in USA?

[sacred zodiac]

idk what you're even simming i think you are cooked if you are genuinely trying to emulate the cdr

[wanton sierra]

yes

acctually im brasilian but i play on usa server

[atomic mountain]

then i think you get it today. but i am not sure

[tropic eagle]

Dungeon slice is decent ye

[atomic mountain]

only a german potato in europe that has to wait for tomorrow

[tropic eagle]

EU life

[wanton sierra]

sweet! i quite liked the periodic launch of season, but the most part that i play is dungeons m+

[nova marsh]

....since when does warbreaker have a cast time ?

Did it ever have a cast time lmao

[tropic eagle]

No what

[obtuse totem]

Im trying to sim trinkets for M+, mad queens mandate sims weak because of the CDR Im assuming but not sure

[sacred zodiac]

its visually slightly delayed i guess but it doesnt have a cast time no

[nova marsh]

It's delayed by like a second but isn't cs too?

[sacred zodiac]

i dont think its delayed at all

just visuals are

[sacred zodiac]

i mean it will just kinda be bad except for boss funnel no?

[nova marsh]

Even so it's still less then a gcd lmao

[obtuse totem]

Idk, I like its uses to hard execute mobs but I guess it might just be bad in M+ then

[sacred zodiac]

no dont get me wrong it will probably be excellent for m+

it will just not push your overalls in a way most people would like

[obtuse totem]

probably not, I might just use it with the highest other trinket it sims with

Sacbrood got nerfed right?

[wanton sierra]

i got both of mastrey trinks, shard and khhardros

[nova marsh]

A very minor one

Sac lost like 0.1% dps

[obtuse totem]

oh lol

[sacred zodiac]

its still sac + whatever

maybe treacherous although i dont know why arms doesnt use it

[atomic mountain]

her another question. i kinda dont want to get the Tier set in my raid group cuase of missing dmg increase. is there a BiS List with Items that are not a Set part

[fossil rampart]

What ya'll think about the ascendence embellishment for arms?

[nova marsh]

Because it's annoying lol

[cloud gyro]

i think double on use is probably better

[fossil rampart]

Or just the vers one is better

[sacred zodiac]

its not tho

100% predictable

immediately stop spreading misinformation

[nova marsh]

...uhhhh why thiu

Idk some people do find it annoyibg

It's feedback I've already heard

[sacred zodiac]

stop parroting people who are clueless

[nova marsh]

Okay bro calm down

[tropic eagle]

There is a pin for this somewhere

[sacred zodiac]

me when i get called out for spreading misinformation

[fossil rampart]

Oh cool i'll dig into it. Cheers

[nova marsh]

Me when i can't understand people just want a trinket to be pressed and have no extra steps lol sorry

[wanton sierra]

we can chheck on that website "murlock io or bloodmallet"

[fossil rampart]

Also how so? Is there a weakaura? I genuinely ask because i am one of the clueless people

[sacred zodiac]

its either jump 3x which is trivial or a "fetch" task

but both fetch tasks always spawn in front of your character to the right based on where you are looking

so if you are just moving to the front right as you press the trinket its effectively just a 90s on use with no conditional

[fossil rampart]

Yeah that doesn't sound too bad honestly

[sacred zodiac]

also i think its undersimming wildly rn

[wanton sierra]

damn what are u talking about, i got lost

[sacred zodiac]

at least on fury it was completing the fetch task after bladestorm ends instead of prepping the task pre pull

[fossil rampart]

Treacherous transmitter trinket

[fossil rampart]

Ohh that ain't good

[wanton sierra]

ohhh now i get it ty

[fossil rampart]

Because according to main websites that people look at for ideas, treacherous sims a lot better

[tropic eagle]

Transmiter has been insane for me

[fossil rampart]

I just run skarmorak and sacbrood cuz no brain

[sacred zodiac]

maybe revvez has it implemented correctly

[cloud gyro]

noob apl

[tropic eagle]

Its just so much strength for your CDs

[cloud gyro]

just read transmitter

[sacred zodiac]

arms has it fine probably

[cloud gyro]

its good

[sacred zodiac]

checking fury again

[tropic eagle]

I think people dont read and just press it and complain

[wanton sierra]

i wanted arakara triink but zero luck at all

[tropic eagle]

You actually have to do stuff to trigger it 😂

[fossil rampart]

Wouldn't be surprised

[sacred zodiac]

Player Spongiewarr attempting to use action rampage1 without the required off-hand weapon (requires One-handed Axe, Two-handed Axe, One-handed Mace, Two-handed Mace, Polearm, One-handed Sword, Two-handed Sword, Staff, Fist Weapon, Dagger, Spear, wielded Unknown).

[fossil rampart]

Dude i did so many runs just to get it while i was carrying and had to give the sacbrood to the person

It was pain

[wanton sierra]

we got in a time that ppl copy paste builds, they dont even read the talents xD

[fossil rampart]

But got it the day after so yippee

[atomic mountain]

do we nit pre pot?

[wanton sierra]

gratz, this trink is big

[sacred zodiac]

thoughts?

[wanton sierra]

for theh first time i got a lil hyped to tank, as mountain thane.. i was rotatin on dummies, and damn... i quite enjoyed all the lightningh and blasting

[sacred zodiac]

idk what you mean we do not pre pot thats not a thing anymore, if you mean pop treacherous 5s before pull yes you do do that

[fossil rampart]

Champion's spear?

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-gif-21878743

[sacred zodiac]

ye u play that in fury st

[tropic eagle]

YUCK

[fossil rampart]

Wait let him cook

[sacred zodiac]

its more the part where you pop transmitter midway through your bladestorm

[wanton sierra]

damn but champion spear doesnt give us rage?

press another rampage

[tropic eagle]

You need to do stuff for tue buff from it

[fossil rampart]

It doesn't give you direct rage but it increases your rage regen i think with the other node

[sharp wyvern]

Its also only played for 1 boss

[atomic mountain]

is it only a classic thing with prepotting cuas you cant pot anymore after 1 infigt?

[sacred zodiac]

yes thank you i know you can also pop this 5s before pull and pop it with your charge

[sacred zodiac]

potting just puts pots on a 5 minute cd in retail you cant pot before pull and it resets the cd on pull

[tropic eagle]

Youd lose like 2 seconds of uptime but sure

[sacred zodiac]

you dont but ok

[tropic eagle]

Ok bro

😂 you do you

[wanton sierra]

one of the nodes of champion spear shoud be that one that would reduce its cd based as mmany targets hitted by inicial fixation... i remember playin thhat on shhadowlands, blasted hard

[tropic eagle]

Ill make my charge super stronk next time!

[hard kernel]

drowning doesn't break second wind btw

[sacred zodiac]

ye theres some weird exceptions that dont break second wind

[elder nacelle]

so yee, how do I play arms now? I just press execute whenever it's up or like what? even tho I sim 980k I barelly did 480k on boss in delves that is a training dummy

[nova marsh]

Remeber when rashok's dot didn't break it?

[sacred zodiac]

did you have lust, full consumables, every raid buff to fight that boss aswell or

check the guides if you want specific rotational based answers

[elder nacelle]

nope, but I can't just zug zug like in 9.1 and have good damage :c

[sacred zodiac]

what patch even is 9.1

you absolutely can though btw you are like a top 5 st spec

[tropic eagle]

Buffs and consumes eont make 400k dps difference… you sre doing sometjing wrong in your rotation

[elder nacelle]

when I last time played arms is when it was

[hard kernel]

you guys heat up your sandwiches are nah?

[tropic eagle]

Depends on the sandwich

[elder nacelle]

only if I want the cheese to melt or the bread is a bit harder

[hard kernel]

alright, lets play arms makes a sandwich
meunster, swiss, or colby jack?

[elder nacelle]

cheese

[nova marsh]

Colby jack

[tropic eagle]

Colby 100%

[hard kernel]

honey glazed ham, bbq chicken, or roast beef?

[glacial moat]

Meunster Master race rise up

Roast beef

[nova marsh]

BBQ chicken

Man I want a sandwich now

[hard kernel]

Well you just made me my sandwich, so all is well, gonna warm it up now, gl zugzuggers

[elder nacelle]

holy moly there are so many stacks to track now with arms

[nova marsh]

Not really

Op dosent matter

[elder nacelle]

I guess I can't just not use OP to get Lethal Blows stacks right ?

[sacred zodiac]

u do kinda wanna track that for execute tbf

[tropic eagle]

You wanna use OP on proc almost always

But if not procd and you have the other stuff off cd

[atomic mountain]

no joke but go on wow head, whatch the opener/rotation and easy. on 35% life left spam exe in ST

[tropic eagle]

Depends many situations

[nova marsh]

I was told op stacks (martial prowess) dosent matter for exe

U just track ep and 4 pc

And send it with those

[sacred zodiac]

thats kind of tracking the same thing

[nova marsh]

But like even so...aren't we only paying attention to those for exe?

[sacred zodiac]

i mean you dont have 4p rn

[nova marsh]

This is true

[lone fable]

How do you craft the iLvL 610 pvp items for embellishments? which item do you need to increase them to ilvl 610 for pve?

And isnt it definitely worth it to just craft a 619 weapon with sparks tomorrow, if there is no wep in the great vault with reset?
(without embellishment on wep, cause M+ player)

Even if you happen to get a better weapon later into the season with M+ runs or great vault luck (when not running mythic raids), you use that earlier crafted weapon anyway to recraft with gilded crests to 636? (again, considering i will never run mythic raid,, therefore getting a weapon at 636 is only avchieved by very high m+ runs?)

[sacred zodiac]

ok no u are right martial prowess isnt the correct thing to track but its good practice for when you do get 4p

[thick hamlet]

is it worth speccing into any aoe on rasha'nan

[tropic eagle]

I like to get 2 procd ones before my after SS cleave after bladestorm

[quasi torrent]

dont craft 619 wep

[tropic eagle]

Shit fucks hard

[quasi torrent]

craft 636 or 606

do NOT craft 619.

[nova marsh]

So ms is just a debuff reapplier rn

For Woons and rend

[uncut shard]

Craft 619 or noober

[lone fable]

but for 636 we need a lot of gilded crests or not?

so takes 1-2 weeks first?

[hard kernel]

90

[sacred zodiac]

you can get it first week ye

[atomic mountain]

can only answer part 2. craft weapon and you never need a new in season1

[tropic eagle]

Depends how hard you play

[hard kernel]

so week 1 if you gigachad it lol

[sacred zodiac]

+9s really arent too much to push for

anyone can do it trust

[tropic eagle]

Push for sure farm? Disagree

You need a bit of mentality

[lone fable]

so you would need the 2x sparks anyway or not? so only the runed crests would have been wasted?

[quasi torrent]

gilded cap is 180 next reset

[quasi torrent]

runed get wasted

which is a lot of power early

[lone fable]

but 45x runed crest isnt a hell of a loss or no?

for 1-2 weeks stronger wep, considering i dont get gilded within a few days

[sacred zodiac]

its not an insane loss but you are trolling 45 crests for no reason at all

a 619 weapon will not make getting the gilded crests significantly easier

[nova marsh]

Isn't there a gearing guide to Min max crests?

[lone fable]

thanks for your replies so far. and anyone have an idea how to craft those 610 pvp items? (for pve ilvl and embellishments)

[sacred zodiac]

i dont think any of them are "optimal" theres too many moving parts for that

[sacred zodiac]

win an epic bg to get 9x heraldries and then cap conquest to be able to buy 9 more

[cloud gyro]

idk id rather be 10% stronger for 5 weeks than get complete bis 1 week earlier

[sacred zodiac]

then go to the crafting orders and craft algari competitor gear

[lone fable]

ahh okay thanks

[sacred zodiac]

i dont think you should concern yourself with optimal crafting if it will take 5 weeks to get 90 mythic crests

[atomic mountain]

call me mentality man

[tropic eagle]

Hi mentality Im ill

[atomic mountain]

wannt a hug?

[tropic eagle]

Im good thanks tho

[atomic mountain]

this man needs no help

[tropic eagle]

Waiting an extra day for reset on EU is ass tho lol

[atomic mountain]

well the chance to push your vault even more

[tropic eagle]

Im 607 full bis with everything maxed in vault brother, I went too hard

[cloud gyro]

last day of delves

holy fk man

[atomic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/respect-kid-child-reverse-close-gif-25572229

[elder nacelle]

so during execute I do not spam just execute anymore when I have rage ?

[tropic eagle]

Kinda sad I only got a normal transmitter drop tho

[tropic eagle]

2 execute MS usually you should have the talent

[sacred zodiac]

effectively equivalent to an hc one tbf

[elder nacelle]

oh okay, I missed that

[sacred zodiac]

u shouldnt upgrade those with mythic crests either way

[tropic eagle]

yeah true

and the stat gain is not THAT much but still

[hearty palm]

I cant do good damage on raid

for example i did nexus princess heroic boss and my dps was around 600k

other peoples doing 800-900

[atomic mountain]

uptimeproblem i guess

[nova marsh]

Send us a log

Cab tell u where ur messing up

#449510248579858432

[hearty palm]

how can i send logs

btw my ilv is 606.5

[sly venture]

Enchanted gear, all consumables and 600+ ilvl?

[hearty palm]

Not enchanted + no consumaables and 606 ilv

[sly venture]

Well

[thick kelp]

go google how to log world of warcraft

click video or written guide

[sly venture]

with our low ilvl those are quite important aTM

[thick kelp]

take the log

put here

[solemn fractal]

If the buttons being pressed are incorrect then enchants and consumables will only do so much

[thick kelp]

skill issue u do that low

[hearty palm]

okay i will go to log

[hard kernel]

[solemn fractal]

71 Mortal Strikes seems kind of low

[thick kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO8dvi7TflE

thank you @dire hinge

[sacred zodiac]

@dire hinge so cool?

[candid garden]

No draught of souls

Ofc u so low dmg

[solemn fractal]

Not helpful for them I feel

[thick kelp]

why not

if they log their run, send it here

people will take a look and help them

[solemn fractal]

No, the comment about No draught of souls..

Is meme

[thick kelp]

🎦

[nova marsh]

Man are we back in legion

I wish

[solemn fractal]

We're supposed to be better than that

I'm guessing this is their character, since its the only name that pops up. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FtWM1bwpX2KvAq7f#fight=10&type=damage-done&source=97

Using your 2nd trinket, which is on use, might be a good start.

@hearty palm

[nova marsh]

His rend uptime is SUPER low

Like 65% is very not normal

Shouldn't it be in high 90s if not like 99%? There's no reason to let it drop

[hearty palm]

yes this is me

[hearty palm]

yeah i see that now other bad reasons can you tell me

[solemn fractal]

Post in #449510248579858432

[hearty palm]

i ddi

did

[atomic mountain]

jap

[tropic eagle]

Your execute seems way too high too

[nova marsh]

I should not be awake this early lol

[tropic eagle]

Do you press MS after 2 executes?

[hearty palm]

i press execute until my rage is bellow 50 then overpower

[tropic eagle]

Okay so thats terrible

😂

[hearty palm]

hmmmm

[nova marsh]

It's 40 rage

Then one op and back to exe

[tropic eagle]

Read your talents right bottom side of tree

[nova marsh]

That and yeah use ms to reapply ur debuffs, probally part of rend is messed up

But also this should be #449510248579858432 to not clog up arms

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[nova marsh]

And he did post there

[tropic eagle]

Teach me arms pls

[nova marsh]

Press execute all the time, even above 35%

[tropic eagle]

I only have orange pars how do I get pink

[nova marsh]

Rng gods

[thick kelp]

Without 4piece you press MS only to upkeep rend/DW during execute phase

[hearty palm]

MS apply rend?

[nova marsh]

You press ms with full stacks of ep and 4 pc

[nova marsh]

Yeah below 35^

[tropic eagle]

In exe range yes

[nova marsh]

Called bloodletting

[hearty palm]

oh i didnt know that

[thick kelp]

SkS when below 85 rage
OP with opportunity when less than 90 rage
OP when less than 40 rage

[hearty palm]

So my mistakes are MS usage , Rend keepup right?

[thick kelp]

otherwise its exe

[thick kelp]

I said without

[nova marsh]

Oh mb

[thick kelp]

Unless this guy is god and has 4p

[nova marsh]

Yes it's just a debuff keeper

Until 4pc

[tropic eagle]

Its a start

There is probably more to it still but it will help you a lot to get those right

[thick kelp]

Flexing oranges from HC on a week where nobody is even equippin gear before the full clear is over is kinda cringe

[hearty palm]

should i need use any macro?

[tropic eagle]

Ok bro sorry you are better

Ill learn from your logs from now on chief

[hearty palm]

Is there any log for this boss

best arms

[thick kelp]

Sorry they are private :(

[tropic eagle]

Ofc, chceck on warcraftlogs

[tropic eagle]

Oh no 😦

Why didnt I expect that

Oh wait

[glacial moat]

I never flex oranges.

Because I never parse orange

[hearty palm]

should i upgrade this?

this is only item i have hero

[glacial moat]

Weapons are priority for upgrading yea. Might want to wait for vault though unless you're capped on stones or smthn

[sly venture]

Onlky macro i have is Ava+CS+Trink+TempPotion on boss fights if it's cool to start with nuke right away

[glacial moat]

I have a stance macro for switching between defensive and battle/zerker

Very useful

[sly venture]

That's very good

But I never lose health for some reason

🤓

until tomorrow

[glacial moat]

IP is goated.

[sly venture]

ppl running heals from deep wounds though on Ovinax

im not lol

[boreal quartz]

It's ass rn

[thick kelp]

Blizzard forgor to scale the shield value up

[glacial moat]

Oh. Ew

[thick kelp]

Almost

[hard kernel]

should I go get coffee from starbucks or try to take a nap?

[daring heron]

save the money, take nap

[atomic mountain]

boss

[thick kelp]

Slam a white monster

[odd helm]

Ghost is the best

[atomic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-jfc-hose-water-splash-gif-12839494

[thick kelp]

wtf

[hard kernel]

have you tried the new Welch's grape one?

[hard kernel]

That means i'd have to walk an extra 10 minutes to the gas station

[mild sierra]

Sugar free peach goated

[thick kelp]

Amateur move not having them loaded in your fridge

[odd helm]

no i havent sounds fire. my favorite is the sour lemonade

[hard kernel]

Yeah my gas station carries it. Probably my favorite flavor besides the Blue Sour Patch Kids one.

[tropic eagle]

The new sugar free hamilton edition monster goes hard for me

[lone fable]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/mobilebasic

So with reset, do lfr queen asap and craft weapon? 🤣🤣🤣

[tropic eagle]

Just get weapon from vault best slot surely!

[steel elk]

Is that the heroic lvl crest?

[hearty palm]

with recent questions i did quite good damage for my party xd

[hard kernel]

LETS FUCKING GO

WE LOVE IMPROVEMENT

!!!!!

[tropic eagle]

There you go bro! Keep pumping

[opal kelp]

Slayer ?

[atomic mountain]

yes

[hearty palm]

ye

[lone fable]

yes, thats the enchanted RUNED crest from the new quest with reset, so 45 crests saved for one item

[stuck niche]

noob question. In AOE, do you always press cleave over mortal strike?

[misty yew]

How is this for a M+ setup?

[thick kelp]

Would drop MBG for EP

and warlord for 45s roar

and WB for blunt

and longsweep for collat

and 1x deft for SB

[fast wharf]

bloodletting is also so good

[atomic mountain]

would go like this

[fast wharf]

to lose

[latent moss]

drop sks both bloodborne

go critical thinking juggernaut and massacre

drop mbg

talent into sd

this isnt fury

arms execute does something

[livid cloak]

How does the jugg build compare?

Much better st for minor aoe loss?

Similar to df jugg build?

[thick kelp]

Yeah

[paper summit]

jugg rely's on cleaving executes i think...

[livid cloak]

Haven't been playing arms in 0s bc everything dies so fast, but excited to whip it back out for keys this week

[paper summit]

damn, fury got another nerf?

wait, so 3% all dmg, then the other individual nerfs too?

[tropic eagle]

Yes

[flint tapir]

Yes. They will still run the pad for all heroic raid content, with sleeper agent sub rogues coming online to challenge them.

[dire hinge]

Happy to help! 🥰

[livid cloak]

If jugg is falling off, say half the time between packs, would the recommendation be to play the other slayer build?

In df they felt like 6 in one half a dozen in the other

[dire hinge]

Pull faster 🫣

[livid cloak]

Cannae control the pug tanks

Although I'd guess with SD and slayer you get more exe procs

Make it easier to maintain

[shadow ibex]

Pull for him

[dire hinge]

Yeah, it’ll be a little more consistent compared to historical Jugg builds

I do not condone an unethical butt pull “on accident” if the healer is full on mana and the tank’s HP ain’t movin’

[livid cloak]

Reading up I feel dumb now for crafting a 619, oh well. I'll lose out on 3 heroic crest upgrades

[daring heron]

man imagine arms got the SD-clap added to our tree

i want that

[shadow ibex]

You know it's sad that the only thing we got from DF moving forward is the shitty legendary in a talent tree instead of the numerous 'only decay in combat' trinkets for a talent like juggernaut

[livid cloak]

Dude SD clap was so good

[thick kelp]

So close to greatness

[livid cloak]

Felt amazing

[dire hinge]

It happens, be nice to yourself

[shadow ibex]

But oh well

[livid cloak]

Yeah it's okay. Wasn't really thinking about it

[latent moss]

won't change much in the grand scheme of things

[livid cloak]

Didn't realize you could get 636 this week

From plus 9s yeah?

[thick kelp]

its joever, better gear new character

[livid cloak]

Yep

Use booosty

[latent moss]

imagine arms got a universally loved tierset that fixed one of the issues with the spec (a proc being useless in aoe) and was amazing for qol

[shadow ibex]

I don't think it's a big deal since I'm mostly bottlenecked by valor and we get 90 a week. I don't like sitting on resources much

[livid cloak]

SD clap was my first season playing arms

[dire hinge]

I should just blow the boosts on more warriors…

[shadow ibex]

And it helped our heroic run a bit

[livid cloak]

And I miss it lol

[latent moss]

i miss it too

it would go so hard rn

[livid cloak]

Yeah for sure

[shadow ibex]

It shoulda been in colossus tree

Big giant warrior stomps ground

Perfect for prot and arms

[latent moss]

the only issue with it was on st with tom and the fact that sd didnt stack twice

[shadow ibex]

Instead, here's the legendary

[latent moss]

nah keep colossus ms oriented

[honest girder]

🙏🏼

[latent moss]

too bad ms got shot but yeah

xd

[shadow ibex]

Colossus the shockwave tree

Bro who asked for this

[dire hinge]

make colossus 10% size gain

[shadow ibex]

I mean yea

I wouldn't mind it being a huge inc

But I can see a problem with visibility on a cow

[dreamy spire]

Hey, i just use Icy veins for guides - there is no Colossus Build - is it that bad or just not added yet? And does someone know if its THAT bad to ignore the slayer strikes and just pressing execute without tracking them?

[tall violet]

hello beautiful ppl, stupid question, what should I do with Kej ?

[distant epoch]

Save for Mount tbh

[shadow ibex]

Last I talked to krisp the minmax execute usage with marked for exe is minor but ideally you send it with 3 stacks

I've just been sending on reaction but as I pull more bosses I've been trying to optimize just because it's more fun to think a bit. Don't sit on it and use slam over it tho. Send at 3 stacks of marked, at 2 stacks of SD or send when OP and MS isn't ready

Oh and to keep jugg up

What you def wanna track sadly is the 4pc

Opportunist is good to track too

[dire hinge]

Can but profession knowledge and recipes, but there’s not really power there

[shadow ibex]

Mortal combo should look to opportunist on how to buff MS

Casual 30% dmg and crit DMG

[dire hinge]

Battlelord could never

[shadow ibex]

Opp gotta be one of the best talents in game

30% DMG lol

Strength of arms

Like fuckin 50% crit amp on OP

[wraith cave]

with todays nerf would the demolish build be better ?

[latent moss]

3 stacks of MFE or 2 stacks of SD or SD falling off or Jugg falling off

[shadow ibex]

Colossus needs like 12 patch notes to be good I wouldn't even look in that direction until you see colossus in blue over a bunch of lines of text

[cosmic oasis]

Objective arms bros: how much difference are we talking in M+ AOE builds between Arms and Fury? Is it ok to fully dedicate my body and soul to Arms for both raid and M+, or am I leaving damage on the table?

[tropic eagle]

If you like arms just play it

its pretty close, fury pulls ahead in lower keys but Id trade enjoyment over a bit of dmg any day

[cosmic oasis]

Yeah I really like arms, but I'm also competing for a raid spot in my guild. And I doubt I'll be able to successfully gear both specs.

[shadow ibex]

Some fights favor fury so yes DMG is on the table but dmg is also on the table if you played fury for a pure ST fight

Our other warrior is fury and I've been rocking logs skill > spec by far

Play what you like and you'll get 99s

[daring heron]

many of us will just gear for fury and change rings/neck for arms - arms isnt picky on stats

[tropic eagle]

yeah you will beat fotm fury players if you are good on arms

[shadow ibex]

Start tracking opportunist and gap them

[glacial moat]

Arms is also really close to fury on multiple fights already, might eclipse it after the nerfs maybe.

[shadow ibex]

Ez game ez life

[cosmic oasis]

Thanks for the advice, really appreciate it.

[shadow ibex]

Start tracking your opps

Arms war has many opps

[serene glacier]

If you want to play with a two handed so bad, play death knight. . . Even the tank uses one!

[dreamy spire]

thanks alot

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/wed-morning-didn-t-gif-9346143516692717657

[weak wave]

Hey, anyone knows if these stack in some way?

https://www.wowhead.com/de/item=221882/trankbombe-der-macht#english-comments

[cloud gyro]

what is furys avg bladestorm cd?

is it same as arms

[wraith cave]

i do pretty similar dps in aoe with both tbh, limiting factor is that demolish has animation lock.

[latent moss]

longer

arms plays anger management

[cloud gyro]

ah yeah

i had bladestorm for every add wave on egg boss

fury warr didnt

[arctic hearth]

Did you beat him?

[cloud gyro]

let me check

[latent moss]

beat fury on ovinax

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1270040420315037727.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

possible

only if he died

[cloud gyro]

i had a web dispell that didnt get dispelled for 10 sec

[latent moss]

fury has to die from aggro to lose

on ovinax

[arctic hearth]

Wtb logs, only played a bit of arms while lvling and in hc dung for 1-2h

[cloud gyro]

i think arms has some advantages if you play it right

[arctic hearth]

Having fun with fury but i kinda liked slayer arms

[cloud gyro]

logs are loading omega slow

i did 1.3m

i think he did about the same

[latent moss]

i did 300k

(i died on first set)

(from aggro)

(colossal spider scary)

[cloud gyro]

die by the sword spam

i tried cleave too and it was annoying as fuck to play

but it did well

[latent moss]

cant as fury

[latent moss]

just play st on every boss

and on silken court drop 1bloodborne for improved ss and uproar for blademasters

[cloud gyro]

i liked improved ss for bloodborne

but im for sure always playing cleave on egg boss

its fatty strong

[latent moss]

unless u really dont want to play fury

there is no point in not just swapping to fury for more add damage

[cloud gyro]

dropping 1x bloodborne is like 1% st loss

for 100000000% add gain

[latent moss]

pressing N and going fury is like 2% st loss

for 13289052075632195723902730599% add gain

[tropic eagle]

Im not clicking that

[cloud gyro]

do u have cds for every wave?

[latent moss]

yes

[cloud gyro]

i dont like fury so id rather make arms work

its working really well so far

[tropic eagle]

it is, we are competitive. Sure fury is ahead but if you enjoy arms and are not racing for WF then why play it

[neon niche]

The only dps spec

[cloud gyro]

this is the first time since late bfa where i enjoyed arms

feels really good to play now

[olive nest]

Real

[neon niche]

Df season 2 was very good.

Bfa was just deep wounds

[hazy flower]

big steppa

orange playa

[cloud gyro]

yo guys i cleared the raid 15x in one reset with 612 ilvl, 4set, boost group

is rank 1 good?

im gonna post on twitter

[worldly kernel]

Surely won’t be banned

[gaunt owl]

@latent moss

Get pinged mate

[olive nest]

Ohhhh

Get owned

[silver ravine]

Did you earn 10 euro per clear

[dreamy spire]

Do we delay Skullsplitter, Avatar and Thunderous Roar for CS? (singletarget)

[cloud gyro]

I wish man, only 5k

gold

[latent moss]

get pinged grandpa

[vernal quiver]

Can anyone describe to me how playing arms feels?

[cloud gyro]

avatar yes rest no

[cloud gyro]

like sex

[hard kernel]

big number, exe spam

[vernal quiver]

But you are bottom or top?

[latent moss]

top

arms fucks

[neon niche]

Afaik u don’t skull splitter with cs on opener cause of prio on the window

[cloud gyro]

depends whether u are in execute or not

[vernal quiver]

Outside of exe it is bad?

[latent moss]

no

[cloud gyro]

noo its good always i was just joking

[latent moss]

it got better

compared to df

[dreamy spire]

dont we deynch avatar & TR when using TR on CD, but Avatar delay for CS lineup?

[neon niche]

U should use anything with cs outside exec and opener

[hard kernel]

isn't opener
Charge -> rend -> avatar -> smash

[vernal quiver]

I literally have no idea I never played arms I played fury for 6+ years

[cloud gyro]

ye thats what i thought i said

[hard kernel]

oops i forgot yell

charge rend yell avatar smash

[dreamy spire]

so its no big deal to have avatar + cs up, but no TR?

[wise cloud]

Do we send MS on cd or do we prio OP with opportunist proc? ;_;

[vernal quiver]

Damn forgot arms has a bleed button that does no initial dmg

[neon niche]

Op with opp > ms

[cloud gyro]

you can hold if youre not gonna miss a cast

[tropic eagle]

do we hit the monsters with right or left hand?

[cloud gyro]

but no you just send on cd

[wise cloud]

This shit lowkey i need to engrain in my mind somehow lmao, i'm so bad at this

[dire hinge]

Both hands firmly grasp one weapon

[tropic eagle]

but do you have your right hand above the left on the pommel?

[neon niche]

Everybody is on the same page bro

[wise cloud]

Also in execute we just pretty much press execute now and refresh bleed with ms right

[neon niche]

My zug brain wants to ms at all times

[hazy flower]

Just whenever op gets reseted remember to press it insta

[neon niche]

Yes

[cloud gyro]

its even harder when u are swapping between colossus and slayer

[neon niche]

And u can refresh rend with blade storm as well

[cloud gyro]

you have to rewire your brain

[wise cloud]

How about OP with proc?

[neon niche]

Execute

Until 4 pieces

[vernal quiver]

Do you guys feel arms still needs a rework?

[dire hinge]

Depends jf you’re left or right handled. Dominant hand goes higher on the sword

[cloud gyro]

id like more talent variety but it plays well

[wise cloud]

understood

[tropic eagle]

thanks this will help my dps greatly!

[dire hinge]

Yes, our kit competes with itself

But it’s not unplayable

[wise cloud]

At this point bring back condemn i say

[cloud gyro]

wait you guys really dont like arms atm ?

[tropic eagle]

I like it a lot more than previous xpacs

[vernal quiver]

In what way

[thorn pelican]

bring back slam's cast time

[cloud gyro]

same

[tropic eagle]

its just isnt quite there, it almost is but it isnt you know what I mean

its very frustrating

[neon niche]

Slam as filler

I loved season 2 ignore pain and thunder clap filler

Df season 2

Never slam

[cloud gyro]

in my mind slam isnt slam

you have to gaslight urself

its tactician/cs reset button

200k damage so you can deal 3mil again soon

[copper ocean]

Just did my first dungeon as arms after playing fury since release . gotta say it's much more chill

i like it

[tropic eagle]

yeah slam feels ass

[neon niche]

Blizz can’t get rage spending right too

[cloud gyro]

i think its good now

i think if you manage ur rage well you shouldnt lose globals ideally

[tropic eagle]

yeah gameplay wise its ok it just doesnt feel good to press to me

[copper ocean]

is there a reason to press slam other than filler?

[cloud gyro]

no

[neon niche]

Never

[tropic eagle]

nope

[wise cloud]

Delete slam

[tropic eagle]

its the nothing else available button

[copper ocean]

Do i even need it on the bar tho isn't it better to just auto attack?

[cloud gyro]

when the worst button feels the worst to press 😱

[tropic eagle]

no you still use it in a fight

so yes put it on the bar 😄

[neon niche]

Ure trolling

[tropic eagle]

or macro it to something lol

[dire hinge]

We have a feedback loop that encourages the spec to try and spend rage whenever possible, but we have talents that make things rage-free. We have talents to reset the cooldown of things, but they hit like wet noodles unless they’re stacked with 2-4 buffs, so you’d avoid pressing it even if it was reset

[tropic eagle]

the arms life

[vernal quiver]

Ohh I get it yes. When we say rework though we mean ret level of rework or smaller?

[dire hinge]

Impartial, it just needs some additional work

[cloud gyro]

I think most people in class discords want a rework of their class

[dire hinge]

I’m not a game designer, I just push buttons

Doesn’t take a designer to see the gears don’t quite line up though

[vernal quiver]

Mostly . Enchanc are mostly happy

[neon niche]

The spec is not doomed at all

[neon niche]

They had a good rework

[vernal quiver]

I mean with ptr changes for totemic

Now they are happy

Even I am thinking to switching to shan

Shaman*

[cloud gyro]

Yeah it looks fun aswell

[wise cloud]

Also last question, in execute do you hold bs and just execute until you have like 0 rage and then send it type deal?

[cloud gyro]

thats what i do, but usually you can play it so you starve when bladestorm comes up

so you dont really hold it much

[wise cloud]

That's probably for someone with a bigger brain than mine

But got u, tyvm

[strange perch]

I, too, have an extremely small and smooth brain

like a perfect fig

[cyan tusk]

What embellishments and pieces of gear is arms doing. Are we going weapon with ascension?

[cloud gyro]

arms is ahead on st my a sizable margin now right?

after fury nerfs

[cyan tusk]

1%

Not significant

[rose pendant]

minimal margin

[hazy flower]

More

[rose pendant]

just play what you like

[old urchin]

Double Duskthread (vers) lining for me.

[hazy flower]

It was like 1% ahead pre nerfs

Its probably around 4-5 now

[cloud gyro]

no way its 1% hahahaha

yeah 4-5 sounds more like it

[cyan tusk]

What pieces are you going

[rose pendant]

problem is, no boss is really ST this raid

[hazy flower]

Wdym

[cyan tusk]

Wrong reply

[cyan tusk]

What pieces are embellishing, bracers/closk?

[old urchin]

Yeah

[cyan tusk]

Gotcha thank you

[nova marsh]

Arms just likes to pretend there is st

The last time we had a primarily st raid was...abberus

[cloud gyro]

fury does in fact trivialize atleast 1 mechanic on most bosses in the raid

[rose pendant]

There was a few in Amirdrassil, but yeah lol

[cloud gyro]

so theres that

[nova marsh]

Evreything is about padding nowadays

[cloud gyro]

not if you care about kills

[rose pendant]

also fury doesnt have to juggle timing on cooldowns. they really need to do something about the CD allignment in Arms

[nova marsh]

Both our heros have completely fucked cd alignment

[rose pendant]

I want to play Colossus but fucking christ I hate demolish's CD

[nova marsh]

And AM being "nerfed" really dosent help

Note: by nerfed I mean less effective cuz our rage economy and rage costs are much lower then df

Colossus still just needs to throw out the entire current version imo

[cloud gyro]

It does feel goofy for sure

[nova marsh]

There's just so many problems with it like cd alignment, the sheer amount of jank with demolish...

[cloud gyro]

especially if you play m+ build, you have so many things that are strong when lined up

[nova marsh]

Like blizz could buff demolish and colossus in general until numerically its higher then slayer and even then I'd bet that it wouldn't be preferred

[cloud gyro]

you wanna cleave + cs + ravager with 2x op stacks

[nova marsh]

Because colossus just isn't consistent

[cloud gyro]

but ravager casts ms which consumes ur stacks

so you have to do some weird ass backwards stuff to make it work

[pallid matrix]

Is there a reason all the guides say to use blunt instrument vs warbreaker for m+ arms? I feel like heavy multi target would benefit with warbreaker .

[nova marsh]

It's because of st

Wb looses more st due to the in for the kill changes to scale off Csmashes duration

And running blunt is a pretty minor aoe loss

And also there's just no reason to plan around super super heavy multi target

[dire hinge]

Warbreaker unfortunately doodoo atm

[flint tapir]

Its just in for the kill, you get 3secs more with blunt instruments. its unfortuante

now you have to find the <35% add and win

[nova marsh]

I got told to stop blindly following guides because I said wb was kinda bad

[rose pendant]

Here's hoping they rework Arms soon, but considering they only care about Fury, I doubt it

[cloud gyro]

warbreaker is good with demolish build

[pallid matrix]

Makes sense. That’s a valid point. I mostly pvp and didn’t think of that going into mythics for first time in years. Appreciate the detailed reasonse both of ya

[dire hinge]

Uno reverse they’re just out of the loop

[nova marsh]

Same person asked why you'd use dstance as arms

[cloud gyro]

based

[hazy flower]

Is that the no rally cry guy

[nova marsh]

I mean lowkey kinda cuz fuck loosing dps

[hazy flower]

Or someone else

[dire hinge]

Not true, still go Blunt Instruments even on colossus 👀

[nova marsh]

Colossus makes me very sad

[flint tapir]

hero talent doesnt change in for the kill interactions, sadly

[rose pendant]

I just want them to buff Mortal Strike, it fucking sucks now. Hits like a wet noodle compared to season 4 DF

[nova marsh]

Maybe they shouldn't have nerfed it in the first place

On the other hand, exe feels really really good

[rose pendant]

best they can do is 20% more damage on first two demolish swings

execute does feel good yeah

[nova marsh]

Slarms exe is kinda peak

[tropic eagle]

Why are they not aoe

[flint tapir]

welll they gutted MS by 25% in beta testing when they gutted colossus, effect is still felt

[cloud gyro]

warbreaker performs better for me, but maybe that changes when bosses live longer

[nova marsh]

What are your kill times?

[cloud gyro]

we are talking m0 so like 1min

max

[nova marsh]

Oh

[dire hinge]

Yeah that checks out, bosses last like a blink and a half

[nova marsh]

Well yeah you get like 2 CSes

[rose pendant]

ik the sims for Fury 4 set is only like 2%, but is the arms set just as useless?

[nova marsh]

Na

The arms set is like 3% irrc

[rose pendant]

ooo now I cant wait to log in

funny how dev evoker has 12% for their 4 set

[nova marsh]

It's kinda mid

[dire hinge]

According to fury 3% is a big deal I heard

[cloud gyro]

XDDD

[dire hinge]

Hehe

[nova marsh]

But it's not fury competing for the worst tier set of all time for another season LOL

[glacial moat]

Arms set is big for Colossus but... We don't use collosus lol

[rose pendant]

3 inch- I mean percent is average I heard

[cloud gyro]

i think most 0-4pc is like 3-5%

then there are some outliers

[nova marsh]

Like dev voker

[dire hinge]

Yeah, a big % of a smaller number is still smaller 😔

[glacial moat]

Then you have sham that's like 10 percent or some bullshit

[cloud gyro]

i think dh was 18% before nerf

[rose pendant]

I just wish we'd stop getting passive sets, I want to feel the power

Shamans get extra wolves and shit

[nova marsh]

The extra Wolves seem baller

[cloud gyro]

first tier of expac is usually pretty tame

[glacial moat]

Best I can do is 20 percent more bleed damage

[nova marsh]

I wonna have 5 Wolves out at all times that sounds great

[rose pendant]

pretty much all of our sets in DF were also boring

[nova marsh]

S3 was nice

[rose pendant]

wasnt a fan of ravager but yeah

[tropic eagle]

I dont mind a boring tier set if my base bread and butter gameplay is good

[nova marsh]

...arms s3 set

[glacial moat]

At least s1 fury gave you execute basically all the time

[nova marsh]

The one with exe...arms didn't have rava in df

[rose pendant]

oh I thought I was in the fury chat lol

[glacial moat]

That was kinda neat

[nova marsh]

And overcapped you on crit for exe

[rose pendant]

anyone find it weird how Arms warrior only uses one two handers when Fury gets to use two arms

maybe they need to rename them

[young storm]

Arm* warrior

[rose pendant]

when is Legs warrior?

[young storm]

and fury = arms

there fixed.

[dire hinge]

If we are doing it based on names, there’s two paths:

• if “arms” is short for “to arms!”, it refers to all weaponry, so we should have the ability equip any weapon and use it well
• if it’s short for “master-at-arms”, that’s a naval rank for being the on-ship discipline, basically. So we should be more of a support spec

[zealous karma]

Just wait for them to absorb fury into arms removing the third warrior spec, then it'll only be arms

[dire hinge]

We become a third, more mysterious thing (bandage healer)

[marsh falcon]

Arms because big arms from throwing things and arms because a throwing spec

[rose pendant]

I'm kinda surprised they didnt go the GW2 route and make Fury a fire damage spec

considering there are glyphs to set you on fire when you enrage

[dire hinge]

Ooo grapple spec

Big arms for huggin’

[serene zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/open-arms-arms-wide-welcome-with-wide-arms-open-scott-stapp-gif-14431621

[marsh falcon]

I get to physically restrain other hot buff dudes? Yes please

[serene zodiac]

arms is actually a creed reference

it should be a singing class

[dire hinge]

Name a better combo than creed and a bunch of hunky dudes

[rose pendant]

my guild leader ditched us last week for a creed and three doors down concert, true story

[zealous karma]

Just a series of different shouts to scream heals at people

[rose pendant]

if they give classes an extra spec, a banner/rally/shout buff class similar to augvoker would be cool

[serene zodiac]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ4uk4t4wFw
this is just arms warrior youtube

[zealous karma]

Warriors should have a bloodlust shout tbh

[dire hinge]

I don’t think we need a brez, but if we ever get one, I hope it’s either:

• stand the target up and clap them on the back
• literally just shouting at them to wake up

[bronze ether]

Anyone got a simple wa that tracks: rend duration, OP stacks, Execute stacks, Sudden Death charges, and Marked for Execution stacks?

[zealous karma]

Yessss agreed lol

[rose pendant]

we should've had it expansions ago, we already have bloodthirst/bloodbath and bleeds

[serene zodiac]

god no i dont want bloodlust

and u dont either

[dire hinge]

Most wago.io packs should have this and you can strip them out as needed

[serene zodiac]

thats 1 more gcd u have to press before u can press ur buttons

[zealous karma]

Exactly...share the rage and everyone gets haste makes sense

[serene zodiac]

and ur never gonna want to play without a shaman anyway in keys so thats irrelevant too

[rose pendant]

they probably want us to have one but the only reason we dont is because they dont want to give Tank a BL

[bronze ether]

Figured. Thanks.

[dire hinge]

Sure thing! They’re usually not standalone items, they’re baked into the spells they impact (execute, overpower, etc)

[lethal acorn]

I play it anyway, I think they'll be slowly fixing it over time, best thing they can do now is give it better ST

[bright crow]

What's the point of rending and roaring before avatar?

[kind glade]

whats the point of putting vampiric touch and shadoww word: pain up before pressing Void form?

[bright crow]

If I knew I'd prolly be in the priest discord being a chav

[dire hinge]

a few things:

• Roar's upfront damage is extremely weak, so we use it ahead of the other major cds so we can use other spells within Avatar/CS
• Rend's damage gets amplified while Roar is active on the target (Thunderous Words talent). If rend isn't applied, we lose out on dps

[bright crow]

Thanks! Good info

[dire hinge]

this effects both Rend and Deep Wounds, and is a big reason why we also take Skullsplitter

[bright crow]

Any sequence macros for this opener?

[smoky kayak]

you could make one, but I wouldn't recommend it

Cast sequence is very restrictive and you won't always have things line up as well mid fight as they do on the pull

[strange perch]

Uhhhh I want my own personal bloodlust

For sure I do

[serene zodiac]

ok just give this guy bloodlust, i dont want a button that delays my burst on a class that has always had frontloaded damage

[strange perch]

Well in a raid you’re not gonna be the one clicking it and you have to be invited to an M+ to even have the chance to frontload damage

Plus being a tank with bloodlust would immediately make warriors imba

[dreamy ice]

is skull splitter really that good in ST?

[glacial moat]

Yes

[dire hinge]

yes, see above (about five messages)

[dreamy ice]

Ok i see

[warm olive]

i would love some flavorful stuff, i thought about something akin to D&D where you can use a potion on a dead friend

[dreamy ice]

but if roar is down should you still skullsplitter off cd?

[warm olive]

"Intervene uses a potion on a downed ally, bringing them back. If used this way, one potion is consumed"

[dire hinge]

there's a martyrdom potion now, which when they die spills from their pocket creating a healing puddle

(real)

i dont remember the name of it, but it's silly

The ability to football-spike a health pot onto a friend is pretty silly tho, big fan

[warm olive]

this one would consume our potion but would keep the 5 min bres cd

[warm olive]

sounds fun

i think bliz just takes warrior as the non magic user a lil bit too extreme

some great stuff can be added utility wise using flavor and items to mask out magic

[dire hinge]

we frequently summon lightning from the sky

[warm olive]

thats physics

metal wearing and electricity

[smoky kayak]

Benjamin Franklin spec

[fossil rampart]

god imagine if warriors could lust

[warm olive]

new hero talent tree: The Albert Einstein
While using this tree, Arcane Intelect increases warriors attack power

[fossil rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-ballon-d'or-ballon-d'or-shocked-ishowspeed-noway-gif-9357582452923318096

[warm olive]

im telling you, bliz

put me in coach

[dire hinge]

Albert Einstien: speed tertiary increases dps

[warm olive]

i can make us shine

[warm olive]

thats fucking awesome

warrior becomes gains 20% mass, increasing their gravitational field

[steep wedge]

F=MA if we accelerating we should be hitting big

[warm olive]

aka

mass grip

[steep wedge]

Give demolish a pull, with the % increase on size bigger mass -> gravitational pull or something 👀

[warm olive]

but then we're using colossus, the whole thing is a new tree

[steep wedge]

True true

[dire hinge]

first hit is a Donkey Kong ground smash that roots the target, then the charcter says, "humina humina humina" as it spins its arm around like a pinwheel, doing one final giant punch into the target

[steep wedge]

lol, this is the one blizz ^

[warm olive]

when blademaster hero talent?

warrior samurai

[long beacon]

last titan

[warm olive]

arms only tree

[strange perch]

[merry stone]

To people who use the spell reflect WA, have y’all noticed the spell reflect cast bar appear when you get stuck on a puddle, vs the last boss in Ara-Kara? Pressing spell reflect doesn’t seem to do anything here?

[warm olive]

reduces magic damage taken

[merry stone]

Figured as much, don’t think I’ve ever seen this situation before, cast bar not moving and it doesnt disappear when you press spell reflect 🤷🏽‍♂️

[thorn pelican]

some things are reflectable i wouldnt expect

like the web roots on ansurek

actually never get rooted as woyer kinda nice

[latent moss]

day 1 of asking blizzard to remove the minigame from transmitter so i can instantly transmit damage with avatar

[warm olive]

i dont know what it is, but warriors can reflect somethin while rooted on the last arakara boss

[fossil rampart]

extended by another hour

yipeee

[latent moss]

na beta testing for me

ty

[glacial moat]

They have to nerf fury more. It takes awhile

[fossil rampart]

[warm olive]

Patch notes: SMF is now obligatory.

and now deals frost damage

😄

fuck that emoji

[glacial moat]

Patch notes: we decided fury having bladestorm is cringe actually

[strange perch]

i literally can not function without the realms being up. i have absolutely no idea how i am supposed to exist

[lost field]

has been decided yet? lol

arms over fury in ST?

[fossil mantle]

Thanks to NA once again for beta testing a new patch for their supreme European overlords.

[arctic hearth]

They should make 1 rogue spec blademaster tbh or give DH another spec

[copper ocean]

arms>fury everything

https://tenor.com/view/like-a-boss-what-can-i-say-gif-15852230

[lost field]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-harder-cope-sir-cope-sir-american-psycho-gif-26276799

[strange perch]

[copper ocean]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[strange perch]

https://tenor.com/view/ending-pose-the-lozkha-brothers-britains-got-talent-open-arms-end-of-the-performance-gif-19578855

[wanton sierra]

arms > fury

[strange perch]

all day baby

[dire hinge]

arms has always been ahead of fury in single target, the issue is that not every boss is single target

[gaunt owl]

The issue is people are addicted to padding and dps meter

Right @ornate eagle ?

[white anvil]

saw some high parsers using this embellishment, thoughts? https://www.wowhead.com/item=222443/everforged-greataxe?bonus=10421:9633:8902:9627:8790:10222:11143:11302:8960

(can find on wowhead page for the wep)

[ornate eagle]

real

[finite mantle]

real

[restive ledge]

I'm here just been arms long as I been playing

[terse osprey]

Arms is alot of fun

it has alot of interesting stuff to it

[smoky kayak]

Ascension is better (albeit not by much)

but yes, it stands to reason that people who invested their spark early would be parsing high

[wanton sierra]

SERVERS BACK??!

[quartz cedar]

Has anyone switched to Colossus after the nerfs to bladestorm, or is slayer still the go to hero spec?

[wanton sierra]

false alarm

[lost field]

bait

[agile crown]

slayer still

[wanton sierra]

i was baited, ppl told me and i tried to log on... im working xD

on loading i came here to tell you

but its false

they say if you open burst in front of vault you shall get an giga bis gear

[fossil rampart]

surely they won't extend it again

[lost field]

whos surely?

[warm olive]

depends on whos asking

[bitter monolith]

just got extended... not