arms

[halcyon breach]

Sad that the tier is bad/boring but also means I don't have to worry about 4p instantly

[thick kelp]

I mean it makes it worth to press MS inside exe phae now

big set

[flat willow]

Ah its time for my daily shill of colossus rework by stealing ret templar spec

[halcyon breach]

Yeah I definitely wanted the set to be the thing to do that

[tawdry quail]

What do u guys think would make colossus better? Like if they buffed it, what’s the thing that needs to happen to make it as good as the rest?

[flat willow]

Just make demolish replace cs after you pressed cs like light hammer with wake of ashes

It will fix all of colossus problems

[tawdry quail]

Lmfao u answered that the second I typed it

[flat willow]

And instead of the cdr a Free demolish every x stack

[thick kelp]

Un-nerf MS and practiced strikes

[flat willow]

So every 3 cs you can do double demolish

[thick kelp]

Prior to those two nerfed it was ahead of slayer

[atomic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[tawdry quail]

Man that was so sad to see when I read them notes

[thick kelp]

I was happy

Fucking channel

Rather channel while moving than channel whilst stuck in spot

[tawdry quail]

OR? Channel but make me unstoppable and unmovable

[shadow ibex]

We'll be able to move in January with ut

[tawdry quail]

How tf am I being sent to another part of the dungeon when I’m channel demolish

It’s called colossus bruh

[shadow ibex]

When clown shoe blizz get their heard outta their ass

[tawdry quail]

Still imma stick to it until the end. When the buffs do eventually come thru it’ll feel so good

[silk kite]

I'm willing to compromise with rooting mechanic if they make me 20% larger in size to assert visual dominance in raid

[shadow ibex]

Getting high on the fumes thinking their design knows best

[cedar peak]

arms or fury btw for delves/heroic/m+?

[atomic mountain]

@tawdry quail can you mby accept that here are more Warryprofessionals than colossus player? even with buffs Arms Colossus single target went up ~1.5% - still ~8% behind Slayer. (in updates-war-within)

[nova marsh]

Fury is just flat out better atm

[cedar peak]

cheers

[fossil mantle]

9.7 on ST? Last figure I saw was 6.7. Hope you are right

cause that would be massive

[tawdry quail]

Colossus is worse, I never said it’s better

I just enjoy it more

[thick kelp]

Even after this its still pisspoor vs Slayer btw

and not 100% sure on number

[tawdry quail]

Btw between arms slayer and fury slayer, is fury still better? Even in ST?

[thick kelp]

havnt lookd at colossus after the nerf

Fury never was better

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[atomic mountain]

u said its even with slayer XD

[shadow ibex]

There isn't many things better than arms st ATM

[tawdry quail]

Fury just looks better cos of low mob health

Lmao imagine if Fury had colossus instead of thane, and arms had thane instead of slayer

[flat willow]

Colossus would work better on fury since they dont go anger management

Funnily enough

Wait no it would still be wacky with demolish weird cdr

Nevermind throw Colossus in the bin and rework it

[atomic mountain]

nah just throw it away and give arms thane

[gusty oxide]

On the colossus vs slayer, Colossus will starts to pull ahead in higher keys

[tall violet]

is this any good ?

[gusty oxide]

it's decent/good

But sim yourself

[shadow ibex]

2:30 is one of the worst trinket cds ever

[tawdry quail]

btw how comes the tierset is bad for arms slayer? is it cos it puts prio on OP

[gusty oxide]

Very low damage gain

it's like 2.8%

Ish

[thick kelp]

Slayer has no MS interactions

vs Colossus is 90% MS interactions

[atomic mountain]

only getting 1-3% dmg inc

[astral yarrow]

Better than 2 min

[flat willow]

Its actually 3 min since the cd starts at the end of the proc doesnt it

[elder nacelle]

don't tell it to my rl or he will put me down from below evokers to below monks if I was to switch back to arms KEKE

[gusty oxide]

Deva actualy is now the biggest gain for 4P 😄

Since shamans got gutted

[flat willow]

Glad I dont play evoker

[gusty oxide]

When 4P will start to appear on a lot of people, we will fall into the middle of the pack dps wise

[atomic mountain]

whats making me sad cause arms deserve more 😦

[latent moss]

and it was interesting

cause u had giant ms

not anymore

[gilded stump]

Maining warrior be like

[latent moss]

not really

we are on the high end on st

[neat yoke]

I would also accept giant execute at this point

[latent moss]

u have it with slayer

[elder nacelle]

tbh arms is in good spot rn, as even tho it's s1 we already have nice bit of stats

[sly venture]

I would like to track Opportunist proc but can't seem to find it on neither Luthxos or Afenar. How are you doing it?

[atomic mountain]

i know but give it 1-2 weeks and he is b tier sniff

[latent moss]

the buff itself is delayed for some weird reason so u have to track tactician https://wago.io/Q5KkvQ0m2

[junior phoenix]

Hmm, how does the double duskthread work or what does the double do? Tooltip tell only 756 versa which is by one. I'm main Arms, and do raiding also some M+ in between

[latent moss]

this was made by me and a wa dev cause im clueless at this stuff

[sly venture]

Yeh, noticed it's delayed in default ui but can't follow that shit with my eyes, then I'm dead on spot

Wow, very nice! Good job!

Thank you

[wanton sierra]

hhey, do u know why mark of kardros is better than shard of skarmorak?

[latent moss]

idk prob more stats

[sly venture]

If you're playing prot you just go 2x I think, otherwise I don't think it's very optimal for m+ due to realistically the uptime is so very low

Like Signet

[latent moss]

the uptime is not low

[sly venture]

I mean if youu play prot as well in m+,

[latent moss]

never was

[lusty creek]

does OP with opportunist have priority over MS?

[latent moss]

yes

[sly venture]

Isn't it like 30%?

[lusty creek]

👍

[latent moss]

no

[lusty creek]

good wa, i will put it

[latent moss]

if u walk into swirlies on purpose

yes it will be low

[neat yoke]

I think shard has less mastery on active but some mastery passively and more mastery in burst is better than a little bit of mastery all the time

[latent moss]

if u open ur eyes and avoid avoidable damage

the uptime will be good

• we have a lot of ways to deal with burst damage

[sly venture]

Yes obviously

😄

Well I'm going to play it, we will see

Archi just mentioned it i think a time ago

[junior phoenix]

I would not say it's low, 82% uptime overall in Stonevault Mythic

[sly venture]

m0 isn't really the indicator of Signet in DF though

I don't know what Archi compared with

[latent moss]

bsl

bsl was 90%

linings are 80%

[sly venture]

Hmm

[latent moss]

i had 80% on a very scuffed sikran kill

and it was up when i needed it to be up

[sly venture]

Yeh, im stupid im talking about embellishments here lol, Linings

BSL

[latent moss]

im using crit bsl as well atm but im crafting ascension next week at 636 with gilded

it just simmed higher for me

higher than dusk

(vers bsl)

[sly venture]

Wait, isn't those 80/90 numbers inflated for time when u don't even use them or something. I'm sure Archi was saying something about that like yesterday

[latent moss]

yes

[thick kelp]

in m+

[latent moss]

thats why u check the log

and see when its up

[thick kelp]

thats why he said 80% on sikran

which is a boss fight

[latent moss]

and 2 healers were dead towards the end

and it was 30 man so it was messy as fuck

[steel sand]

today i learned Colosal Smash can be parried, and it doesn't put the debuff when parried cool.

[normal marsh]

parry still being a thing in raids is big brain blizz

[shadow ibex]

You think that's air you're breathing?

[wintry scroll]

Anyone who was progging razageth knows the pain of cs getting parried

[atomic mountain]

[steel sand]

didn't really play arms until late late df

most of the time i am behind boss anyay, but for it to happen on first first CS well well

[boreal quartz]

Back in DF you didnt get the reck proc either

[flat willow]

[strange perch]

I'm a newbie to Arms Warrior. Can I ask a question?

[steel sand]

https://imgur.com/xM6IkaJ

[boreal quartz]

Ofc

[wintry scroll]

No

[strange perch]

Why does warrior use a sweeping strike before the bladestorm In the AOE opener? Isn't it a loss because warrior can't use a single target skill during the duration of the bladestorm?

[wintry scroll]

They fixed it sweeping doesn't affect unhinged now

[gusty oxide]

Oh boy, hide this, Colossus haters will amplify it.

[flat willow]

can we have recklessness back

[shadow ibex]

Get it on CD and so it lines up with other stuff since you're pressing them again in 21/45 seconds

[strange perch]

for cooldowns aline?

[bronze wharf]

what do you mean by delayed? is there some 'deadtime' between the proc itself and apply of buff to the character?

[hazy flower]

kyveza

cinema

cba checking if it was for avatars

prob was

[subtle ginkgo]

So Runic crests only from M+/raid?

[gusty oxide]

Runic?

[subtle ginkgo]

For upgrading gear

[gusty oxide]

There's no Runic

crests

Weathered/ Carved/ Runed / Gilded

[subtle ginkgo]

Runed. Yes. That.

[gusty oxide]

smug~1

Runed is heroic raid, Lst two bosses of normal, and +4 to +8 M+

[subtle ginkgo]

Thanks

[latent moss]

yes

and its very noticeable

[bronze wharf]

didnt know, thanks

[scarlet geode]

so what item we grinding first on reset? ❤️

[gaunt owl]

@smoky kayak look at this peak gameplay

its on the unmovable boss too

nice one blozzard

[nova marsh]

Welcome to aems

And the suffering we feel

Just wait till ur unhinged gets parried

[smoky kayak]

pretty sure blizz would argue that while the boss doesn't move, you're not forced to attack it from the front, you can go behind it

but yeah, parry in pve is dumb and shouldn't exist

[abstract vale]

if bosses can parry make them spell reflect too

[gaunt owl]

kinda are on this boss the way we game on it no ? 😄

[smoky kayak]

kind of is on a lot of bosses

but blizz only does the "always hit" rule for bosses that are outright impossible not to hit from the front

[gaunt owl]

i was sure immovable one was on that list too

[smoky kayak]

there's no real list tbh, it's blizz, they do whatever they want

consistency is not a core value

[native dawn]

So from looking at simc - arms will eventually do more than fury (https://simulationcraft.org/reports/TWW1_Raid.html) but when is that turning point? 4p tier or? because fury looks to be slapping raid right now.

(i say more, but the difference is only 14k)

[woven wasp]

that is single target 5min dps

arms sims better right now

fury is better because of fight design

[native dawn]

bet, rookie mistake on me then lol

[gaunt owl]

cuz padding

😄

[cinder dove]

also, nerf inc on wed

[fast wharf]

arent both specs being nerfed?

ig fury more due to odyns fury nerf

[wary steppe]

i hope patch 11.0.5 will bring a small rework similar to what shaman or MM hunt is getting

[thick kelp]

maybe(not) likely

[cinder dove]

yes, but we only get 10% BS dmg reduction which isn't a lot

much worse for fury

[plucky gate]

Hello can someone tell me why the talent in the weapon spec "Fueled by Violence" does not heal as it describes pliz

[fresh spire]

Fury will barely feel a tickle from the nerf

[drifting venture]

Does anyone know if we get 2 tier tokens after getting both 1600 and 8/8 heroic raid ?

or is it one or the other?

[crimson furnace]

its just one

[halcyon breach]

It's only 1

[halcyon breach]

I don't see the issue, it works just fine for me

[drifting venture]

ok ty

[halcyon breach]

It's roughly 80% here, so sure not the entire 85%

[plucky gate]

Well I don't and on none of the logs that I checked it matches and I'm not talking about my logs but about all the other weapon wars

[halcyon breach]

Okay but are you making sure it's actually effective healing it does or not

because unless you specifically look at overhealing, that just shows you the amount of actually healed HP it does, and doesn't count healing at 100%

In my test above I made sure to never be at max HP so it always counted the healing it did

Since, funnily enough, you need to be below 100% HP to be healed

[plucky gate]

so I repeat to you that the spell does not work

[halcyon breach]

Show me the logs you're talking about

Because I don't have the issue, nor seen anyone else talk about it

[plucky gate]

maybe because no one realized it

[halcyon breach]

Picking a random log I found, you can see the overlap of when Fueled heals, and when the person is missing HP

It heals when they're missing HP, and doesn't heal when they don't need healing

Now I might've just picked the one in a million lucky one, but it looks to function fine to me

It just doesn't heal if you're max hp (I honestly didn't even know myself it didn't overheal)

Another case where it's the same

[plucky gate]

well if you look closely it heals well even with max health

[halcyon breach]

Yes I know

It does so in the log

[plucky gate]

so your argument doesn't hold up

[halcyon breach]

But it does in the sense that it stops healing when you're at max hp

The log backs that up

The overheal amount on the log is at most 1-2%~

Which means that it still functions as it should, it heals you based on your Deep Wounds damage, but only when you actually need the healing

[quasi torrent]

just like leech

in fact

leech does v little overhealing too

🤯

[fresh spire]

Likely havr instances where deepwounds doesn't deal damage for x seconds when applied tanking %

[cyan silo]

Stupid question, what is the Ascension Embellishment called?

I feel like im looking for it on google but i must be searching like a moron

[smoky kayak]

darkmoon sigil: ascension

[drifting heart]

Hello guys, just killed council yesterday if I may one thing is confusing to me and i'm sure many ppl might've ask but didnt see the answer :
Does sweeping strike interacts with the mortal strikes that are being landed while we are on Bladestorm or not ?

[smoky kayak]

no

[thick kelp]

😿

[smoky kayak]

well yes, they'll stack colossal might (which is a bug but w/e), but they don't actually sweep damage

[drifting heart]

So we do not land 2 mortal strikes on 1 target each while sweeping strike is active when we are under hero talent slayer bladestorm ?

strange cause i felt like i did so much more dmg on pull using it, idk what did that

[smoky kayak]

Unhinged does not cleave, full stop

it only hits one target

[drifting heart]

kk

[cosmic shale]

I still tend to sweeping prior to BS though to sweep my CS. No clue if right or wrong

[smoky kayak]

save it for after

[warped spade]

One thing I haven't tested and want to know is if it always hits your target or any add hit by bladestorm at random

[gaunt owl]

by habit i do the same

but its not worth it

[smoky kayak]

what, unhinged? it prioritizes your target

if you don't have a target or it's out of range, it hits a random target in range

[warped spade]

Ok thanks and is it bladestorm range or MS range?

[smoky kayak]

your range

unhinged comes from you, not bladestorm

[warped spade]

What I meant was MS is melee, bladestorm isn't nvm apparently it is, thought it was 8y.

[hard kernel]

he answered that

MS is your range, not bladestorms.

[latent orbit]

I see that I almost all the time have a full rage bar. Even thought I try to slam when I can. Is it more important to not waste rage than not capping on overpower for example? I'm in the situation alot where I will cap on OP if I do not slam spam to not overcap rage

[boreal glade]

Feel that brother

[hard kernel]

unfortunately we just spend a lot of time capped, we can try our hardest to spend efficiently but our rage gen is a bit insane until we get into exe

[boreal glade]

It actually feels wrong

So is it better to overcap rage then to sit on2 charges of OP?

[boreal glade]

I’ve been running ignore pain to use when I’m overcapping

Minor survivability increase and is off the global AM

[latent moss]

been that way since df

it got better with tww

but with current design its impossible

to balance rage

and id rather have too much than too little honestly

• there is relevant rage management in exe phase

with opportunist OP

[strong tendon]

prepatch felt very starved, good thing it got way better

[latent moss]

y we need crit not to be perma starved

[daring heron]

i just ate

[visual fern]

[ivory quartz]

this guy

[maiden moat]

do you play single Tar or cleave Build at queen ?

[gusty oxide]

Cleave is better the instant there are more than one ennemy

The only exception in this tier is Rashanan because that fight is built for arms, lol

( and yet fury outdps us because they pad like crazy on all these adds)

[latent moss]

let them

we blast boss

[gusty oxide]

[nova marsh]

So guys

Why do people insist that delves are soloable on classes without cracked self sustain lol

[latent moss]

idk i did one on arms and swapped back to prot

cba

need to have dbts every pack

need to fucking dstance and stuff

cba with that

[nova marsh]

And even with all that ya still die

[latent moss]

when i can no brain prot with blue weapons pull the entire delve and let brann oneshot

[steep wedge]

Idk after the nerf to bran but after ilvl 590 I was able to solo tier 8 delves as arms, just not pull too much, cc/defensive as needed and if really bad heroic leap away to regain hp with second win

Wind*

What I need is to figure out what I’m doing wrong in raids 😭 some people out here hitting 900k+ dps and I’m sitting at like 500k-550k

[nova marsh]

It's just really painful doing solo delves

[fresh tide]

Fury can solo them relatively easily, I like healer brann but most people seem to use him as dps

it's just a lot of IV spam

[dire hinge]

i can't seem to push past 9s solo, but 8s and under are soloable with some patience (or just going prot, which is a different kind of patience)

the changes to delves over the past few weeks have also impacted things quite a bit, especially soloing, where bran doesn't tank for you any more

[nova marsh]

Which is annoying

[unborn oak]

Hey are there Arms Execute-Phase Pi sims vs other specs?

[gaunt owl]

we should be number 1 still

[unborn oak]

yeah thats what i assume but cant find any info to show my lead

[gaunt owl]

just do an execute sim

and make the other guy in your raid do so too

it was 45% more dmg going into Execute last time i checked

[unborn oak]

thx for info

[gaunt owl]

gonna run the sim again to check

[weak wave]

Why does IftK increase my speed by 12% not 10%?

[visual fern]

Execute PI actually big value cuz rage now

[halcyon breach]

Haste is multiplicative

It's not a static 10% haste increase

[weak wave]

Ohh nice

[gaunt owl]

24% more power xdd

[gaunt owl]

its 3% give or take

[narrow flax]

we crafting cloak, or we waiting for patch?

[visual fern]

BIG value

[weak wave]

Ahh nice. The difference between blunt and Warbreaker are only 150 dps for me. So I'll go with Warbreaker again

[fossil thistle]

@daring heron have you tried Zekvir T2?

[teal fossil]

That doesn’t sound right

[latent moss]

thats not even close to right

BI is miles ahead on st

[unborn oak]

yeah just simmed myself was 24% aswell

What do you guys think about queen endboss, wowhead says multitarget, but i would go full st and waeve in some Sweeping strike for the adds? Seems even on hc the roots are just padded and insta dead anyways?

[leaden vine]

so whats the reason we dont take warbreaker in aoe?

a bit confused

[teal fossil]

Because cds don’t align

Blunt buffs iftk

Which increases the aoe value of blunt

And frankly arms is not bursty enough to take advantage of the window

So basically blunt got buffed in aoe while wb got indirectly nerfed due to class design changes

[leaden vine]

i see

ty

[cunning pendant]

Hello! Does arms' execute feel better than fury's? Seems like fury has execute at a low priority compared to its empowered buttons. I love big executes and was wondering if arms has execute as a priority button in comparison

[wanton sierra]

our execute is insanely better

[cunning pendant]

Tyvm! I'll give it a try ♥️

[tender glen]

Four t8 abundant delves, four literal pieces of trash loot. Rip keys.

[wanton sierra]

fury execute is big but it has cd and also generates rage... arms is more powerful

[unique hamlet]

are you guys spending your Carved harbringer crests or saving?

[fallen dome]

Spend them. With M+ releasing tomorrow they are already going to be obsolete.

[zenith warren]

tempered potion works with alchemical chaos?

[eternal vortex]

Yes

[fallen dome]

Uh oh. Fury nerf inc.

[soft dew]

I mean a lot of fights are still insanely good for fury

even with the nerfs

[hard kernel]

-5% aura nerf

[latent moss]

its so big that u only press it when its max buffed

hoooly big execute

arms execute is a lot bigger

[thick kelp]

Calm

[latent moss]

fury players try not to cry over a 3% nerf

while its 20% ahead

on queen and rashanan

and 10% on other aoe fight

s

XD

[tacit mist]

arms tier

W

[unique bridge]

I've always been a big fan of mortal strike

[latent moss]

not ur patch then

ms kinda ass

[minor gust]

Mortal Stroke

[latent moss]

IM ABOUT TO SEND A MORTAL STROKE ARGHHHHHHH

[wary mauve]

why is there a 30 second wait between messages in fury channel?

[frigid cipher]

[latent moss]

cause people are spamming

[rapid notch]

Malding

[latent moss]

fury players

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[frigid cipher]

arms tier

[latent moss]

for sure

[safe comet]

Glad I swapped to Arms

[latent moss]

me when my spec (20% ahead of everyone)

gets hit with a 3% aura nerf

absolute cinema

[loud wadi]

demolish meta when?

[wary mauve]

So is Arms ahead of fury now after the fury nerfs, or what?

[thick kelp]

:kino:

Arms was always ahead

Fury just fotm cuz fight design let it pad

[loud wadi]

^

[safe comet]

I do be holding onto Odyn's to pad

[latent moss]

fury is fotm cause

it has by far the best burst in the game

[minor gust]

raid designed for fury

[latent moss]

u burst in 3 globals as furyu for all ur damage

other classes require 10+ to deal any real damage

[slow saddle]

Why u didnt sandbag as agrred

[thick kelp]

Wym

[safe comet]

meanwhile ret pally presses 1 button and spams divine storm in dungeons

[slow saddle]

Ive been sending all arms cds into boss

[worldly kernel]

Fury has been a better spec for like over 10 years there’s like a couple instances where arms is on par or slightly better

[thick kelp]

all my arms parses are in the purples

and blues

[latent moss]

(fury grays)

[thick kelp]

:caught:

[rain cipher]

dude.. why this channel is so quite ?

[safe comet]

we chillin

[minor gust]

Arms got all its dooming out of the way during beta

[gusty oxide]

Always was for boss damage.

[golden fossil]

Too busy reading fury discourse

[rain cipher]

true true 🤣

[gusty oxide]

We arms, we chill, we ms, we execute

[sharp wyvern]

if you are too loud you get nerfed

[gusty oxide]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042762634539319366/1053485451668901988/20221217_013459.gif

[normal mason]

Arms slayer for st? Luckily I learned arms last season of df so don’t mind switching

[twilit rune]

[sharp wyvern]

i realy hope those nerfes are big enough for me not having to play fury on anusrekt

[gusty oxide]

Raid leader directives?

[sharp wyvern]

yes

[gusty oxide]

Sadge

[sharp wyvern]

cocoons werent dying

[latent moss]

doubt

these nerfs are nothing

[minor gust]

3%

[sharp wyvern]

but the previous nerds were 2.2% on MT already

let me cope

[minor gust]

5.2% when fury is so insane on last boss

not progging as fury is troll

[sharp wyvern]

i just hate it

[latent moss]

they should be happy

they didnt get hit with a 10% aura nerf

[minor gust]

I only feel bad for the M+ only people like Biz

[latent moss]

he will get title anyway

[manic stirrup]

disagree

[latent moss]

all of them will get it

[manic stirrup]

arms is really fucking good and id argue could be better than fury for a lot of bosses

[thick kelp]

if u spent 16h everyday of season doing keys you could get title on any spec

[neon niche]

are u guys reading the #fury channel? its very funny rn

[sharp wyvern]

i think he meant ansurek specifically

[frigid cipher]

3% fury chat content buff

[slow saddle]

Get rekt

Another 3% down

Nice

[manic stirrup]

arms is very similar to fury though

damage profile

[minor gust]

depends on your raid comp really. I don't see arms being worth for queen unless your raid is already really overkill on burst aoe

[slow saddle]

Arms now 3% better st

[sharp wyvern]

[manic stirrup]

ill play it for you

[sharp wyvern]

ok the dooming is real in fury chat

ripbozo

[minor gust]

as always

[thick kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1282957690024362035/1282971121184014366/image.png?ex=66e9dd37&is=66e88bb7&hm=a68cb5512a3438b035b07eb8f9acc7faa71eb8f9fe4f12f17298d9aad7fc0a6e&

[soft dew]

Fury was too strong, and still is after nerf

[sharp wyvern]

all the fotm rerollers in shambles

[soft dew]

With 4P it might not be as good, what' the point of dooming

[safe comet]

Im just waiting for the ret pally aoe nerfs

[sharp wyvern]

im waiting for the range nerf on ret pally

[soft dew]

Ret pallies are bonkers

[safe comet]

30 sec on wake, and they just go ham

[soft dew]

They got one tree nerfed

[sharp wyvern]

30s on everything

[soft dew]

but that's not enough

[sharp wyvern]

and 17yard range on their entire rotation

its the new BM of melee

fury is actually harder now

[soft dew]

It always was for a lot of spells but yeah

[regal birch]

waiting for odyns fury removal and another slap on fury bladestorm

[minor gust]

fury bladestorm

[neon niche]

and an proper execute phase
why play warrior when u follow the same rotation on execute phase its embarrassing

[minor gust]

he doesnt know

[regal birch]

trueee

[regal birch]

na i do know but i dont want to be crossfired cause blizz nerfs bladestorm bc of fury

had that announced already

[cloud gyro]

😂

🍿

#fury

[thorny sierra]

I think the way we make these nerfs work for arms is

[regal birch]

its hilarious

[thorny sierra]

We keep bitching about how colossus needs more buffs

Relative to slayer

[regal birch]

could do that

but demolish is a shit button

so fk that

[sharp wyvern]

no slayer is fun enough

no need to get collosus involved

[random ridge]

duskthread lining craft on ring is fine or poo poo

[flat willow]

you keep asking for a colossus rework

not colossus buff

nobody wants colossus to be the play with current gameplay

[regal birch]

its worse then fyralith and idk if anybody RLY enjoyed it

[weary hull]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

hello chads

[cloud gyro]

colossus playstyle is fun in pve

[sharp wyvern]

we eating good boys

look at the state of fury

litteraly unplayable now

[cloud gyro]

eating fury warrior for breakfast

[flat willow]

eating the worst fury warrior of the planet

maybe

[minor gust]

yup fury was gutted worst spec in the game now time to move onto fdk

[sharp wyvern]

i love fotm player tears

[dim jay]

nah, reroll fire mage, specs gonna get gigabuffed in 1 week, big brain move

[stiff flare]

the amount of new fury players is insane HAWK TUAH on fotm players

[soft dew]

It would need a lot of buffs to be viable

[sharp wyvern]

thats why i want to play arms lol

[stiff flare]

ive been playing fury for like 15 years will continue to do so

[dim jay]

me and arms

[stiff flare]

i will never not player warrior though

[sharp wyvern]

i play both but i always prefered arms

[cloud gyro]

why do they not just let fury trivialize every mechanic in the raid?

[visual fern]

They do...

Fury never die

[thick kelp]

Playing fury after playing arms is lik ehaving permanent bubble up as ret

same feeling

[cloud gyro]

im using every defensive off cd, health pot and healthstone

[sharp wyvern]

when i switched to fury today i got an IQ debuff

[cloud gyro]

barely living

[latent moss]

literally

its so unkillable its stupid

[cloud gyro]

i think arms is also just very killable

so the change is massive

[latent moss]

nah arms is tanky asf

fury is just crazy

[sharp wyvern]

maybe they should give slayer an actuall defensive for arms

[cloud gyro]

arms is not tanky man

[sharp wyvern]

what are we talkiing about when sayying tanky?

raid mechanics?

cause you can live everything as arms

[latent moss]

dstance / sr / iv / dbts 1:30

is not squishy

[manic stirrup]

yes it is

[latent moss]

in the slightest

5% free avoidance

plate

[floral edge]

Sorry fellas I’m a fury man but rn the fury chat is intolerable came here for some sense

[frank fog]

Arms biggest weakness is their defensives. Followed by warrior utility in genrral. Idk why Rally got gutted its the only thing warriors bring to a raid aside from BS. Dont like warrior stacking for rally? dont design a boss that needs multiple rallies.

[torpid pier]

Arms the go to for Mythic dungeons now? I hope so lol

[soft dew]

full of fotm rerollers

[limber river]

Fury is straight up on fire lol

[latent moss]

fury players when they have to actually press something before damage is dealt

🎦

[cloud gyro]

idk whenever theres rot damage im always lowest on hp

i have less stam than most classes at 10 ilvls below me

[sharp wyvern]

first good fury content this expac

[cloud gyro]

i have hpot and healthstone on cd every fight

[manic stirrup]

play better idk

are u dying in heroic

[sharp wyvern]

spell reflect is brokenly strong

[coarse ore]

use IP

[sharp wyvern]

on a 25s CD

[manic stirrup]

spell reflect is the single best ability in the game

[latent moss]

iv is hilarious

[sharp wyvern]

you can have it for everything

[manic stirrup]

besides maybe ams

[grave delta]

Ignore pain is your bff

[untold pewter]

Man I can't understand saying Arms isn't tanky at all, literally can't relate

We have so many buttons dude

[latent moss]

IV is so overlooked

its crazy

im surprised it didnt get nerfed

ngl

[coarse ore]

arms will die very fast with nothing but if you use the kit it can livelord

[sharp wyvern]

spell reflect + impending victory makes you live alone

[dire hinge]

being able to solo the forbidden flounder just standing there

[cloud gyro]

no way spell reflect reduces magic damage by 20%

[untold pewter]

Just map the fight there's no way you'll be dying because of lack of buttons

[latent moss]

god forbid u press dstance and reduce the damage of ur next slam xd

[cloud gyro]

HAHAHA

[sharp wyvern]

dont tell blizz

[minor gust]

Arms survivabillity requires actually using your buttons

[sharp wyvern]

but that sudden death proc leech tho

[latent moss]

wish it didnt get

nerfed 15 times

for some reason

[minor gust]

teehee

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

also u can play bitter immunity now

with no loss

whatsoever

[minor gust]

remeber when they nerfed it for prot and it affected us too

I member

[untold pewter]

Like legit when you're actually in danger because you over committed your defensives and didn't trust your healers, that's when you health pot for 3.2m+ HP or Healthstone and done, your defensives are back

Except Dstance is always there, can't even complain kek

[cloud gyro]

spell reflect 20% dr is for sure what i was missing

[latent moss]

dstance 15% dr on demand

reduces damage u deal by 10%

no cd

sr 20% magic dr 25s

iv 30% hp heal on demand 25s

dbts 30% dr 1:30

[cloud gyro]

theres no way u ever have to press dstance

[latent moss]

why not?

[minor gust]

[latent moss]

its free dr

[sharp wyvern]

so far i have never

except when im running out with a mechanic

[manic stirrup]

if youre actively dying and have no buttons

[sharp wyvern]

cause im paranoid i outrange healers

[latent moss]

i always dstance if i dont want to commit dbts

id rather dstance now and dbts with all cds

than dbts now

[sharp wyvern]

i mean when was the last time raid dmg was physical

you just use SR all the time

[frigid cipher]

plenty of downtime mechanics where you can just take 20% less damage for free

[cloud gyro]

@frigid cipher legit where

[frigid cipher]

historically

[cloud gyro]

ok

[untold pewter]

Yeah there are many bro

[soft dew]

Any reflects in the raid btw?

[untold pewter]

Rashanan flies up why are you burning?

[sharp wyvern]

if you have to pop the cirdle on ansurekt when you have to run out afterwards

[manic stirrup]

reflects get patched in raid always

[sharp wyvern]

thats an example

[manic stirrup]

i cant think of one reflect ever

[soft dew]

I mean if it can deflect it's fine

[cloud gyro]

my warr tank was doing 800k dps on court with spell reflect

[manic stirrup]

that isnt patched

[soft dew]

Like sarkareth

[untold pewter]

Every time you have a "drop out of the group" thing you can dstance if you need the extra safety

[latent moss]

i got some deflects i dont remember tho

[sharp wyvern]

i heard the reflect noise alot during princess intermissin

[latent moss]

same

[dull siren]

shhh

[sharp wyvern]

no idea what it is

[manic stirrup]

deflects are common

[cloud gyro]

i guess u can dstance on black hole boss

[untold pewter]

You can if you get charge + need to drop orbs yeah

[soft dew]

I should dstance more often to help healers

[cloud gyro]

yes thats what i meant

[dull siren]

Deflects only right?? @latent moss

[untold pewter]

Yeah

No reflect damage

[latent moss]

ye they go crazy

[dull siren]

[latent moss]

[dull siren]

[thick kelp]

[minor gust]

Where is it TMY WHERES THE GOODS

[latent moss]

[dull siren]

Safe in my head

[latent moss]

same

[dull siren]

I aint spillin beans to lose dps

[cloud gyro]

how can u parse nowadays when everyone is killing the boss 15 times pr reset

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/food-beans-cook-soup-gif-7312038

[cloud gyro]

holyyyyyyy

[dull siren]

reflects don't even count in the logs, Idgaf bout logs but damage is damage and damage kills bosses so more damage is always good

[sharp wyvern]

you kill it 30 times per reset

[latent moss]

true i play the game to look cool on details

[dull siren]

real

[shadow ibex]

Lmao x2 fury nerfs

[cloud gyro]

go into raid with sated on 5min cd

[shadow ibex]

0 for frost dk tho

[cloud gyro]

dodge bl with everyone else

-> ask for bl in execute

rank 1 farmer

[sharp wyvern]

make eeveryone die in last phase so execute lasts longer

[latent moss]

let us execute during bs fr

[slow saddle]

Fdks gonna be lit when pads lives longer

[shadow ibex]

Let us spend rage during execute

[sharp wyvern]

ignore pain?

[latent moss]

fury gonna be lit when adds livr more than 2s of their cds

[worldly kernel]

Ep stack 4 times ez

[shadow ibex]

Fdk not getting nerfed actually cringe

[sharp wyvern]

fury is gonna be dogshit when boss damage actually matters

[minor gust]

Legion EP when

[sharp wyvern]

[shadow ibex]

And arms bs still getting nerfed

[zenith oriole]

Question is mastery just increase our damage couldn't we just put it into vers would that be the same thing or nah

[latent moss]

which is never cause u arent bringing one for boss dam and they will continue to top on adds

[worldly kernel]

E X E C U T E

[shadow ibex]

Yes versi is a better version of mastery

Doesn't have to be applied affects trinket dmg etc etc

[cloud gyro]

so what u go full haste until 4pc?

[latent moss]

mastery is more damage per point

[cloud gyro]

is that the move

[latent moss]

u go haste/crit

[untold pewter]

So hard getting my brain to ignore mortal strike during execute phase now

[latent moss]

sim

[cloud gyro]

i did

[latent moss]

no point guessing

u wont guess correctly

[cloud gyro]

i have 16k haste and it wants more

so im assuming it changes when u get 4pc

since guides say crit

[latent moss]

doubt it does

[slow saddle]

Guides says sim yoself

[latent moss]

man reflects go craaazy

[opal kelp]

Colossus is any good on m0 or slayer is way better?

[manic stirrup]

its m0s doesnt mtter

[carmine ginkgo]

have fun

[opal kelp]

I can’t ask m+ since it’s not on

So I’m asking about the xp so far

[dire hinge]

for sure, but right now nothing matters 😅

[latent moss]

worse than slayer for sure but doubt it will be bad

slayer just pumps on prio/st

[dire hinge]

Agreed yeah, Colossus will still be playable, if you enjoy it more there's nothing that stops you from playing it.
Slayer is strong and easy, with good damage. Colossus is slightly worse, but it's fun in its own way

[cloud gyro]

colossus is owning m0

[arctic hearth]

Colossus pretty fun when ut friend is tanking

[cloud gyro]

slayer is easier and does more boss dmg so

[arctic hearth]

When a random pleb is tanking, not so much

[cloud gyro]

you always pre die by the sword before dropping ur 6mil cleave into 5mil demolish

or you get DROPPED

[arctic hearth]

More that the tank is moving them away 😂

[alpine glade]

bro i can't wait

[cloud gyro]

if you jump as you cast demolish it helps a lot

and you can slow the mobs with thunder clap talent so they basically cant dodge

[shut shore]

What do you mean? You don’t ignore it. You mortal strike after every 2 executes

[alpine glade]

dude following raidbot too much

[cloud gyro]

i just spam execute until 2 stacks of overpower

with 2set/4set procs

[latent moss]

for a socket?

:xd:

[shut shore]

Mortal strike with the precision buff x2 does more dmg than my executes sometimes when it crits or as much as them

[cloud gyro]

yeah but execute spends more rage

[shut shore]

Exactly, buffed mortal is better

[carmine ginkgo]

arent you rage starved in execute

[cloud gyro]

no

[latent moss]

no

[leaden oracle]

you actually do want to ignore MS until 4p in ececute

[cloud gyro]

you just weave overpower/skullsplitter when u have a global to spare

[latent moss]

never

[shut shore]

This

[cloud gyro]

idk if its better but thats what i do

[latent moss]

u op with <85 rage and opportunist and <2 mp stacks

but y

[cloud gyro]

i like bladestorming tho

but i have giga haste

[carmine ginkgo]

what classifies as 'rage starved' then? because i usually see it thrown around when you cant just spam exe/ms all day

[cloud gyro]

it probably only happens if you mess up rotation or have really low haste

[dire hinge]

they're refering to moments where you have an ability ready to press, but you dont have the resources to use it.

[cloud gyro]

ive never been ragestarved outside of playing colossus on dungeon bosses

[dire hinge]

especially with no Season 1 tier, Slayer is basically never out of rage, so that checks out

[shut shore]

Yeh, if not for execute phase and the bleed rush, I’d wonder why we even go skullspliter

[dire hinge]

skullsplitter is good damage for a GCD

[untold pewter]

Nah you don't until 4p
I only mortal strike in execute at like 2x EP 2x OP

[carmine ginkgo]

i must be doing something wrong then. i definitely run out of rage in execute occasionally and have to press overpower with no opportunist

[shut shore]

Everything I’ve seen says do it even before tier and the damage is comparable to execute but less rage, so idk why it would only be with 4 set

[cloud gyro]

spend more rage -> more colossus smash -> more +20% haste

-> more rage

etc

[latent moss]

its not

sending ms is a dps loss

without 4p

[untold pewter]

^

[shut shore]

Hm, well I guess that’s why I was having issues getting past low purple parses

[nimble yoke]

when do we get catalyst charges?

[shut shore]

I was sending ms every double precision

[untold pewter]

Yeah that's what I'm trying to stop doing

kek

Years doing that shit

Hard to break muscle memory

[fossil mantle]

so we send MS only with 2XEP and 2X Overpower stacks

?

[untold pewter]

Yes

Until 4p

[cloud gyro]

thats what i do

[fossil mantle]

Ah, I see. So what changes with the 4p?

[latent moss]

no

u press mortal strike

[shut shore]

Or prob to maintain rend at low health I imagine

[latent moss]

whenever ur rend / deep wounds

is about to fall off

when u get4p u press it at 2x executioners precision and 2x 4P stacks

[fossil mantle]

so we dont press it at all in execute apart from refreshing dots?

[latent moss]

until 4p

[fossil mantle]

Oh very interesting, I had no idea. Well thats quite counter intuitive

[untold pewter]

Yeah I'm only doing like 2x 2x buff to get used to it already

[shut shore]

Well that makes me feel better, I just saw all the guides saying do it for the double precision and looking at logs, I couldn’t understand what was keeping me from reading orange on more fights

[fossil mantle]

I assume this is only true for slayer ST right and not colossus?

[alpine glade]

I need someone to help me understand something, do we do overpower and mortal strike or overpower x2 and mortal strike

[untold pewter]

For now, don't play colossus if you care about numbers

[cloud gyro]

you execute until tactician procs - then, if you are below what next auto would give u

u send overpower

repeat until 2x overpowers used

then send ms

speaking of tactician, i had a pull today with no tactician proc in the first 16 globals

[alpine glade]

that dude break parses by doing only 1 overpower before mortal strike and spamming only execute and mortal strike during exec phase

[dire hinge]

for colossus:
Without 4p tier: it's 2x EP and Ravager isn't active
With 4p tier: 2x EP + Ravager isn't active + 2x of 4p bonus

[dire hinge]

if you change the top from "damage done" to "casts" it's a bit easier to see their exact button presses

[fossil mantle]

Awesome, thanks!

[alpine glade]

Ah mb

[quaint otter]

the gigachad

[dire hinge]

an important caveat here is that this person is wearing 4p of tier, so their rotation is different than most players atm

[shut shore]

I feel like such an idiot for doing the 4 piece rotation while non tier, oh well. Live and learn

[cloud gyro]

i think he broke parses by killing the boss 9 times in one reset with a boost group and good killtimer

[alpine glade]

So that gonna be that type of rotation with 4p ?

[cloud gyro]

and having 4pc

[wide apex]

wrong

he has an incredible mind for the game

you wouldn't understand

[alpine glade]

Yeah i didnt look closer

[cloud gyro]

i doubt what hes doing is much of a loss tho, if you have a lot of haste

[wide apex]

yeah no idea tbh

most of the time pressing buttons is good

[cloud gyro]

hes prob exhausting his rage by spamming execute/ms and refilling while bladestorming on adds

outside of cs

which is smart

[dire hinge]

when you get 4p the rotation for execute becomes:

• [major cooldowns]
• Skullsplitter with less than 85 rage
• Mortal Strike if you have 2x EP and 2x Lethal Blows (tier buff)
• Overpower (with Opportunist)
• Execute
• Overpower (unbuffed)

for slayer*

[alpine glade]

Whats EP

[dire hinge]

with some caveats about being aware of your EP buffs before you Bladestorm*

Executioner's Precision, a debuff applied to your target when you execute it

[alpine glade]

Okay thanks for the advices

[dire hinge]

always!

the arms channel is chill and helpful, usually

[cloud gyro]

@dire hinge does crit value stem from 4pc?

[minor gust]

only when Arms channel isnt dooming

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16737844

[cloud gyro]

haste > str > crit for me atm and im at 17k haste unbuffed

[dire hinge]

that was #arms-beta

[minor gust]

Arms beta is one with arms now its spirit absorbed

[dire hinge]

never worry too much about specific secondary stats or how important they are in relation to each other. That's a bit of an outdated view of how the stats interact with each other, and it's best to leave gear choices like that to simulations. Arms like all secondaries to various degrees, and instead of trying to do the maths yourself, put your character through a sim where it will do thousands of real attempts with varying gear. It's much more accurate and easier on the noggin.

[cloud gyro]

Yeah thats what im doing, sims are telling me those prios above

[dire hinge]

if you're looking at stat weights that's heavily discouraged

[cloud gyro]

stat weights, enchants, gems, replacing rings

all favor haste

[latent moss]

then just get more haste

its that simple

do what robot tells u to do

[dire hinge]

you can very safely drop stat weights from your brain, but yeah just follow sim and apply haste

[cloud gyro]

I dont want to spend 50k enchanting/gemming haste if 4pc makes crit better again, thats why i was asking

[shut shore]

Mortal strike doesn’t have to have double overpower outside execute phase right?

[dire hinge]

i mean, you'll replace 100% of the gear you're currently wearing, likely rapidly

i'd opt for cheap enchants out of the gate tbh

[wicked olive]

You’re gonna replace the gear you have now so if you’re worried about that then don’t enchant at all until you get tier?

[dire hinge]

at no point do you ever worry about how many overpower buffs you have when determining Mortal Strike usage

[cloud gyro]

does anyone have the line of code that enables 4piece in sims?

ill just check for myself

[shut shore]

Cool ty, i didn’t think so, just started to doubt myself after sabotaging myself doing 4 piece with no tier rotation lol

[dire hinge]

i think it needs two lines, one for each bonus

profileset."T32"+="set_bonus=tier32_4pc=1"```
*edit: t32 is TWW, t31 was last season*

[cloud gyro]

ty

[teal fossil]

Wait is it t31

Or is it t32

I lost track

[dire hinge]

uhhh lemme check

[nova marsh]

It's t31

Wait no it's 32

T31 was Amdrassil

[dire hinge]

yee it's 32

[nova marsh]

I only remeber cuz I know t30 was abberus

[cloud gyro]

is profile set only for gear compare?

or the set thing

[latent moss]

expert sim

[dire hinge]

it's an Advanced thing, you toss it below the #checksum line at the end

it basically says, "re-run the sim above, but with these additional conditions, saved as a different entry"

[cloud gyro]

can i export it as a profile or

since i want to look at stats

[latent moss]

oh shit thats profile sets i just realized xd

[dire hinge]

if you're trying to do a T32 sim to determine your enchants, that will not be super accurate since the tier gear has fixed secondaries that are likely different than what you currently have equipped

just for transparency

[latent moss]

you can add tier pieces with top gear no

[cloud gyro]

For sure

I mean it blurs the comparison a bit to do that cause im swapping around stats

[latent moss]

like this

[cloud gyro]

Between the comparisons

[latent moss]

in top gear

[cloud gyro]

but its better than nothing

[hearty dome]

Happy i stayed arms

[latent moss]

nah u can just add the pieces u want at any ilvl u want

[untold pewter]

Hrothmar can you expand on this about EP and bladestorm?

[cloud gyro]

yeah but that still changes stats from what i have now

so i cant do 1:1 comparison of tier set impact

[latent moss]

yeah but isnt that what u want

yeah but tierset impact also comes with the pieces

u cant change their stats

[cloud gyro]

getting 4pc doesnt increase crit value it seems

comparatively

does anyone sim crit higher than haste

[nova marsh]

If ur Simming stat weights dont

[cloud gyro]

im simming 90 different things

all say haste

[dire hinge]

right, i wouldn't fixate too much on what your pre-season gear has tbh

[nova marsh]

Then follow it

This

[dire hinge]

if you're low on haste, apply haste

[cloud gyro]

i have 17k unbuffed

im just wondering if any of u get sims that say crit

[dire hinge]

i couldn't tell you how much secondary stat i had on my character, it's not really something that matters

genuinely

[dire hinge]

sure thing, so with Bladestorm in Slayer's Execute phase, the APL basically uses it like this:

• you have 2x EP and CS's **debuff **has more than 4sec of being applied left
• OR you have 2x EP and CS's cooldown is more than 15sec away from being available again
• OR you don't have EP talented, then just send it

in practice, this basically means, load up with EP before you send Bladestorm so that your Unhinged-procced MS consumes it for you.

[untold pewter]

Makes sense

[tranquil sundial]

so arms > fury now?

[dire hinge]

Colossus does the same, but with Ravager, and it's a bit more important since mis-played Colossus is prone to accidentally goofing your dps real hard

[snow flame]

Depends on what context

[tranquil sundial]

raid

[snow flame]

Still depends

Fury on overall gaps atm

[cloud gyro]

@tranquil sundial arms does more prio damage, fury does more burst aoe

[snow flame]

OF too strong

[untold pewter]

Thank you for explaining

[dire hinge]

always!

it's what we're here for

[severe nymph]

is colossus equal to slayer now

[manic stirrup]

sim it, no

[dire hinge]

Not really, no

[severe nymph]

is fury shit now

[dire hinge]

absolutely not, it's the same as it was before, but 3% lessened.

in the same way nobody feels a 3% cost of living raise, fury will notice no change to their performance

[devout pewter]

It just brings arms and fury closer, which is awesome. Am currently really enjoying arms

[steep wedge]

is it worth getting braces/cloak/ or weapon crafted

[dire hinge]

i'd consult with your team (if applicable), in case they have preferences on when/how crafts are being done

if you dont have one, just keep things in mind like "maybe craft after you open your great vault", to avoid slot conflicts, etc.

[visual fern]

I definitely feel a 3% COL raise...

Because my wages don't go up linearly 1:1 with inflation + COL

[dire hinge]

real

COL goes up 9%, wage goes up 3%, log in play WoW

[nova marsh]

I mean

Just like noone really notices if the price of a big mac goes up 3%

[dire hinge]

now we're talkin'

[rapid bronze]

I use the same logic to avoid the gym. I can’t notice a 3% weight gain

[dire hinge]

haha

[nova marsh]

[visual fern]

Inflation 3%

NICE

[steep wedge]

@dire hinge my wep and braces are still from heroic, my rng on loot drops is terrible

[dire hinge]

for sure, generally i'd confer with your team, if you're not on one just be concious that crafts made today incur some risk, and waiting until after you open vault / run a few keys might be safer

[covert drift]

Does the 2hander crafter with embelish+2nd embelish to empower it sim higher tho? because it's not in the guides

[steep wedge]

thats fair

ill wait for keys

[nova marsh]

Personally my advice is wait for myth crests

to avoid recrafting as much as possible

[dire hinge]

they're very close, but one is 3 sparks and the other is 2 sparks

[nova marsh]

Just to save you gold and time

[covert drift]

isee

[dire hinge]

yeahhh, i wouldn't recommend blowing Runed crests on a crafted piece, personally. Runed crests will likely be a bit of a bottleneck

but your team(s) might operate differently and see value in the upfront craft, which is perfectly fine

there's no perfect answer

[nova marsh]

And if ur just paying for ur crafts anyways do what u want really

Unless ur team just has it as a requirement to craft it asap

[rapid bronze]

People overthink the crafting thing a lot especially since the embellishments aren’t really amazing. WoW is a dopamine game and the gearing upgrades dopamine goes away pretty quickly and you will get gear pretty quickly so imo just craft what you want. The ilvl upgrade will be massive anyway

[stone relic]

I crafted my 2h since it'll be sometime to grind up the 90 gilded. And I can recraft it later so no big loss

[dreamy ember]

Hey guys, I'm just starting out at wow, what's the best spec for leveling?

[rapid bronze]

For warriors? It doesn’t really matter because open world stuff isn’t challenging. But generally fury is great for self sustain and going mob to mob, and protection is great for short queues if you want to level in dungeons

[dire hinge]

try out both and see which one you enjoy more 🙂

even protection can be quite fun

[rapid bronze]

Prot is the og tank

Big shield guy protect squishy clothies

[nova marsh]

Personally fury is a good go to

Because you just can't really die....but honestly during leveling it's hard to die anyways

[dreamy ember]

Thanks!!!!! Guys

[dire hinge]

of course! Welcome to WoW and remember to have fun out there

[dreamy ember]

And about addons and the interface, do you have specifics for warrior? which ones do you recommend?

[dreamy ember]

thanks brow

[dire hinge]

The base UI is honestly quite nice these days, especially for newcomers.
If you find yourself wanting to customize it further than what is allowed, that's when I'd start looking into "WeakAuras", which is a pandora's box of possibilities.

I'd definitely start off with using the "Edit Mode" of the base interface though 👍

[rapid bronze]

Yeah the base interface has evolved enormously and you don’t really need anything else to start at the moment, once you get into specific parts of the adventure you’ll want to customise it a bit more. Maybe just grab DBM dungeon boss mods for now in case you do dungeons for ability warnings on bosses and such

[chilly parcel]

How does gameplay/rota/prio compare to fury for arms?

I come from havoc, and fury is plain simple

[rapid bronze]

Simple as “run out” etc

Welcome to the warrior discord I’m glad you’ve recovered from the DH phase

[dire hinge]

Generally the playstyle is not terribly different as far as a rotation goes. You're mostly pressing stuff as it's available, but occasionally waiting for buffs to get applied before sending some abilities. They're different specs, so gameplay will be different, but what are Positives to some may be Negatives to others. Worth trying out both and seeing which one you like more.

[chilly parcel]

Short phase, lasted for the beginning of tww and ended with me not remembering any mechanic for the first raid clear as i was playing piano AND performing just mediocre ...

[rapid bronze]

Generally arms in raid will be a much stronger prio boss target

It pisses off the fury warriors when I catch up to their padding during execute

[chilly parcel]

😅

Very appealing: i am the tank for our m+ group, and afaik stats for prot and arms are haste/crit?

[rapid bronze]

Haste vers mostly for prot but arms loves haste too so you can mix and match a bit. Prot is super strong right now in dungeons though so you’ll have a blast

[teal fossil]

just go haste crit

crit>=vers for prot

[strong tendon]

haste crit not haste vers

[chilly parcel]

Will give arms a try tomorrow (i am 2 hours behind on my sleep schedule 🙄).

Prot was a blast so far (lfr, m0...)

[dull siren]

11% Zekvir wipe

Why am I even re-killing this fuck

[gilded stump]

? Or ??

[dull siren]

??

[gilded stump]

What curios you using?

[nova marsh]

I mean tbh I'd ask that too

[gilded stump]

Woah healing Brann good at zekvir?

[rapid bronze]

I always use healing Brann I don’t need his dps most of the time. Those health pots he throws are good on mobs that auto attack for a third of your hp

[gilded stump]

Also has anyone managed to level up the curios?

I'm never getting any higher level curios in delves

[rapid bronze]

I’ve gotten a couple from Zevkir spawns and end of dungeon boxes but they seem exceedingly rare

[gilded stump]

Zekvir only ever once invaded for me so far

[rapid bronze]

I’ve had three so far

Big Diablo 4 butcher vibes lol

I wish they would do that in m+

[nova marsh]

Dude a zekir style affix would be hilarious

He just appears during a random pull after you popped all your cds and you have a "OH FUCK" moment

[dull siren]

takes me 4min to get to p2

[gilded stump]

Aren't all those Xalatath things that

[reef glade]

💀 u reprogging bro