arms

[slender sonnet]

fury and frost mage

but I guarantee it's more than doable as arms

[terse grove]

When I was doing it with friends without any tank or healers, mobs were doing 3-6M Melees it's literally undoable

Idk what's going on but the group scaling is weird af

[slender sonnet]

the scaling for groups is fucked

but solo it's fine

[terse grove]

Yea solo is reasonably tuned

You just need to have brann on heal sometimes

[slender sonnet]

nah

just pull with heroic throw

[shadow ibex]

i just pull rooms as prot then do bosses as arms

[slender sonnet]

let him tank

and take it slow

(with brann set to dps)

[terse grove]

Is that any faster than actively playing ?

[slender sonnet]

it is faster cause it goes way smoother

[frigid cipher]

My brann takes damage now after new hotfix which is weird. Before he was literally never below 90% tanking everything

[terse grove]

The damage of mobs is very unpredictable sometimes

[gusty oxide]

I let brann tank the most dangerous mobs

Kobryss stalkers, spearlaunchers, etc

[terse grove]

Some of them barely hurt you, then the next pack almost kills you with a punch

[gusty oxide]

Casters,w e're wars, so we like them

[dire hinge]

i was trying a 9 as prot when things were bugged and every pack would almost kill me through all cds, was rough there for a sec

[slender sonnet]

I gave up on tanking them

[daring heron]

brann feels kinda weak now after the hotfix from 1hr ago or so

on the high delves

[slender sonnet]

They’re fucking ridiculous to try and solo as tank imo

[frigid cipher]

yea hes definitely doing less damage for me

[terse grove]

I wonder why's delves so buggy

[frigid cipher]

when they said he got buffed 125%

[daring heron]

he was scaling with the enemy mobs, so the higher tier the more damage he did

explains why i could do 11 as fury with my main strat being heroic throwing and running away

[frigid cipher]

seems normal for him to do that

[terse grove]

I feel like this expansion launch was forced and rushed, there have been a lot of bugs in delves and a lot of heroic talents

Frostfire bolt alone has 10+ bugs

[frigid cipher]

yea funny list of bugs in the frostfaq channel

[dire hinge]

or when you get stuck in combat and cant eat food for the rest of the delve

[gusty oxide]

kappa

[nova marsh]

it was. Just like DF was

[slender sonnet]

[gusty oxide]

Their PTR environnement cannot 100% emulate Retail, so yeah, bugs will happenning

[frigid cipher]

Definitely much easier to tank them imo. As dps you can burst packs with cds but with no cds you have to just wait or you die

[gusty oxide]

Especialy a spaghetti code like wow

[nova marsh]

Not an excuse when many were caught in PTR

and just not fixed

[frigid cipher]

Did earthcrawl mines as tank and just used the flamethrower on everything

[dire hinge]

im just bad i guess '

[nova marsh]

Hroth never bad

[dire hinge]

getting meleed in this 9 for 2.2M every auto attack as a dps

[nova marsh]

DAMN

[dire hinge]

dunno how to outskill this one lol

[teal fossil]

Easy

[left talon]

Need more leech obviously

[teal fossil]

Don’t get clobbered

[nova marsh]

See hroth u use a very important skill

it's called the group finder

[teal fossil]

Is outlaw evasion still on their cdr

Oh dang it isn’t

I thought they can just 100% uptime evasion through the dung

[toxic gale]

I must be missing something about bladestorm as to why it needs a nerf for arms too, what do you feed into it? SS colossus smash and TC? Then spin spin spin?

[nova marsh]

It didn't

Arms just got hit because it's the same spell for both specs

[teal fossil]

They got lazy

[toxic gale]

Here I was thinking I was bad for not hitting it and topping meters 😄

Instead I'm just generally bad

[nova marsh]

I mean

Yeah BS is really good rn

Espically in aoe

[shadow ibex]

i really hope they change that before tuesday

so unnecessary

doesnt change anything more just makes them look lazy

[toxic gale]

so aoe wise you just burn everything except MS using sweeping then spin when you have only MS left?

[teal fossil]

No

Probably should look up the rotation on wowhead

[toxic gale]

That's what I'm looking at lol

Thunder Clap to apply or refresh Rend at <4 seconds remaining
Sweeping Strikes
Thunderous Roar
Avatar
Skullsplitter during Sweeping Strikes
Colossus Smash
Cleave
Overpower during Sweeping Strikes
Bladestorm

[shadow ibex]

yea

you BS with sweeping up even

just get it on CD

so 5 targets according to that would look like charge rend tr avatar i refuse to use sks CS cleave OP x2 BS there's some execute priority in there as well depending on marked for exe stacks but i just send SD on reaction

i assume you'd use the x2 op stacks at least

unless BS has prio over 1 charge

[toxic gale]

I assumed that too

[fossil fable]

theres any reason to do +9 delve rn?

[dire hinge]

just for fun really

at least currently

[rose ibex]

Warriors. Is there a world where I could possibly use any silly engineering embellishments?

[edgy solstice]

grenade pouch is good on ST ig

[tawdry quail]

Any Colossus gigachads here?

I refuse to play Slayer

I’m stacking crit rn

When my demolish crits, it’s a good day

When it don’t, it’s a bad day

I guess colossus arms will get better n better as we get more n more gear

[shadow ibex]

surely

[outer holly]

I think sometime in August was the last time I saw an arms war tbh

[shadow ibex]

dmg feels ok in raid not fury atm

but nothing is fury atm

[shadow ibex]

anyone cook any silken court build

[minor gust]

just drop bloodbourne for SS and if u want cleave too

depends how fast scarabs are dying

[shadow ibex]

not touching them since not stacked great

[minor gust]

then you will be more then fine with -1 Bloodbourne into improved SS

[shadow ibex]

i wanna hit a big CD cleave but losing bloodborne i no like

[devout pewter]

did raid earlier and why does arms feel absolutely amazing there?
I also did have a shaman with skyfury.. so that might explain.. But god damn

[old urchin]

Def feels good in raids. I’m super happy with Arms right now.

[toxic gale]

Hasn't felt this good/fun in many expacs

If only our best trinkets weren't on use "solve pi to 14 decimal places to get a buff" trinkets

[rose ibex]

both are fun. i like switching it up. slayer is definitely more chill and bladestorm is a fun cooldown so when I want to spin I take slayer. Slayer feels more like 'standard arms warrior spec'

[nova marsh]

I just don't think colossus is worth it in it's current state

[plain sundial]

when it comes to slayer, how do I actually do big dps? I seem to do more dps as collosus and when I try slayer, it does not sesem to hit? but I see others hitting super hard?

[nova marsh]

Gotta hit BS on CD and make the most out of the CDR it gets

And remeber your sudden deaths they are massive

irrc tact procs specfically are a bit higher prio on slayer because of oppertunist

but that optimazation is super slim

[plain sundial]

hmm interseting.. I'll have to lpay with it some more than

[nova marsh]

Honestly I've found slayer a lot more consistant then collosus

Demo is such a coinflip at times

[shadow ibex]

opportunist is dumb good

and 2pc makes OP better after MS

p big prio

[quartz canopy]

yeah I got a big weakaura so I don't forget to press it when it procs

[plain sundial]

Besides that, is it just ilvl?

[shadow ibex]

keep rend up

[small raven]

I struggle with this, easy to lose sight of rend uptime. Anyone got a good weakaura/audio queue for rend being down?

[shadow ibex]

i use tmw

[dark flower]

Guys, quick question. As a Slayer, during the Execute phase ... instead of 2/3 Executes + 1 Mortal Strike, is the idea now to just spam Execute?

[toxic gale]

Me too, but I need to make it bigger lol

[shadow ibex]

nah you spam execute

pre 4pc MS is uses to keep rend up

but that will also come from BS mortal strikes

with 4pc yo uuse MS with 2 stacks of our 4pc buff

[smoky kayak]

^ and 2x EP (you want both, not just one or the other)

[edgy solstice]

torment

[shadow ibex]

uproar feels good tho

[smoky kayak]

#1237307348314357801 2 target link

[nova marsh]

That's why my st is bad lol

[fossil thistle]

Anyone have a good build for Zekvir challenge?

T2

[karmic hound]

is there anyone that uses a controller im just not fast enough on a keyboard and mouse i grew up with a controller in my hand and i feel i would be more comfortable with that i just wanna see if im not the only one

[fossil thistle]

very likely the only one

theres a prot warrior that does it and has some videos on youtube

[karmic hound]

thanks i will look it up

i have a arms warrior and i just keep dieing in pvp before i can even get a hit off

[fossil thistle]

yea you'll be at a disadvantage using a controller in pvp

Just gotta learn to use all the fingys

[karmic hound]

i just cant i have practiced and practiced since this game came out and i die before i even start my rotation

it seems like everyone can do there shit in like an instant

[dire hinge]

This is mostly a PVE channel, for transparency, though your Controller question is something that is exceedingly rare that we don't see very often. Unfortunately I don't have any great advice for you there, but wish you luck with it.

[karmic hound]

yeah i should probebly just quit and play another game

[dire hinge]

#pvp might have better insights regarding how to not die instantly, but PVP with a controller does sound like a very uphill battle to be facing

not what I'm saying at all 👍
WoW can be played with a controller, but I have little to no PVP insights to share

[karmic hound]

yeah i think im done with wow im gonna go and play another game

[dire hinge]

Sorry we can't really be of much futher help there. You can try checking out the subreddit, or asking over in #pvp if you go further.

[karmic hound]

its all good

[gusty oxide]

Oh they murdered brann

from 30% of my damage done to barely 12%

His rain of arrow whent from 450k a tick to 121k

[fossil thistle]

Solid

He doesn't carry everyone anymore

[gusty oxide]

He went from usable, to useless

because he will still agro packs of mob running around like a degenerate of a dwarf he is

[astral yarrow]

so happy being done with delves

[cunning sleet]

hmm, how are you suppoed to play broodtwister?

Archon says to use full single target build, but my bladestorm wasn't lining up with the adds so I just felt like I was doing 0 dmg

[astral yarrow]

you just prioritize execute more for BS CDR

[cunning sleet]

I see..

when you sai prioritize execute, whats the difference exactly? Just use sudden deaths instantly? because I am not sure I know how to get more executes

[astral yarrow]

Technically the correct way to play the spec is to not use execute procs outside of SD running our, AJ dropping or 3 stacks of the slayer buff (Marked for Execution) with the latter reducing BS cooldown by 5 seconds pr stack. If you want BS up for a specific timing, you'll have to send Execute at 1 or 2 stacks from time to time

[cunning sleet]

makes sense. Thanks.

[thick hamlet]

how do you mean

[astral yarrow]

this is the timing i managed on the arms split i did yesterday

[astral yarrow]

they giga blow

[visual fern]

Like Torghast

But worse

🪦

[astral yarrow]

Torghast without the giga op feeling by the end of it

[cunning sleet]

3 minute fight? XD

[thick hamlet]

but how are u gonna be "done with them"?

were rewards nerfed

[halcyon breach]

By outgearing it

[thick hamlet]

or u mean you just gonna m+ grind instead

[cunning sleet]

heres mine

[visual fern]

Yes

[halcyon breach]

A lot of people are already full 603-606 gear

So there's no point in doing Delves anymore for rewards

[astral yarrow]

clearly dont have difficulty with the line up

[gusty oxide]

And they arent fun to do anymore ( delves) since they rendered brann useless

[copper mural]

If u got spare time u can hunt 610 gear

[halcyon breach]

Chief

I am NOT

Gonna sit and farm Delves for a small chance at a map

For irrelevant gear

[astral yarrow]

rather just do hc kek

[gusty oxide]

Will still do Zikvel or whatever his name is at ?? difficulty later in the season

[copper mural]

True but if u want just play

[astral yarrow]

why

[cunning sleet]

later in the fight there was a mistmatch, but even then i still parsed green 😢

[astral yarrow]

send the log

[cunning sleet]

i can't finish tier 10s on arms, I just get bitch slapped

[astral yarrow]

ayo where tf did our hc logs go

[halcyon breach]

I deleted them

[cunning sleet]

I am ready to learn that I did literally everything wrong: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZDdY81jNFrXMyfh2#fight=149&type=damage-done

[astral yarrow]

hope you deleted me ripping threat from add on second boss and getting meleed for 5.5mil

[halcyon breach]

noob pov

(Same happened to Mulle)

[gusty oxide]

I can only feel sorry for those soloplayers, to whom blizzard promised a way to gear themselve to heroic levels with how they butchered delves the last few days of "hotfixes"

[cunning sleet]

the issue really isn't the hotfixes

[halcyon breach]

Meanwhile this was my PoV in my split on warrior

Love when people dupe the smallies a trillion times

[cunning sleet]

the issue is that it's dumb to make the difficulty come from high damage and health

[astral yarrow]

jimmisp huh

oh, Zbl

[halcyon breach]

Jimmi is quite the multiclasser and multiboxer

[astral yarrow]

memeing

[cunning sleet]

in tier 10, there are mobs I can't kill even when fully optimizing brann heals and cds, kinda dumb

[gusty oxide]

Well, before you could use brann to tank, but now you're out-dps him by only auto-attacking, soooo

[astral yarrow]

@cunning sleet your biggest issue here is not using Sweep often enough, pressing MS too much when executes are available and holding roar for wayyyyyyyyyy too long

[astral yarrow]

did you get juiced

[halcyon breach]

Juiced as in getting gear?

no

[astral yarrow]

[cunning sleet]

I see. Ok, thanks.

[halcyon breach]

I've gotten pants from 2nd boss so far

Meanwhile my mage is now 609 eq

[astral yarrow]

neither did i, but i did get wep off of court

[cunning sleet]

woulnd't I not be able to roar the adds?

[halcyon breach]

We've only killed 6/8hc so far on 2nd split, full clearing that tonight as well

So surely wep drops from Court

[astral yarrow]

bro im 608 lol

[halcyon breach]

My mage has 2x619 crafts and now 616 tier chest 😎

(which is why it's 609)

[astral yarrow]

im at 619 weapons as well lol

593 chest holding me back

[halcyon breach]

My warrior is held back by 2x590 embellishment crafts

not gonna pvp to put it on pvp gear instead outside of the first 9 "free" tokens

[visual fern]

That should get a log fix

[halcyon breach]

It did

It's 1.5 mill in logs

[visual fern]

Based

[halcyon breach]

But

It's not from what you think it is xd

[astral yarrow]

on some occasions yeah sure, but you are holding it for more than a minute a couple of times

straight up losing a cast

[visual fern]

Lmfao

[astral yarrow]

delete aug

[halcyon breach]

So right now you can in fact just spawn smallies all you want and parse from it

[visual fern]

Boutta become "Show me on the L-Aug"

[halcyon breach]

Or so it would seem

[visual fern]

Yah that should get a fix is what I was saying

Make it so only a finite # of paras get counted

[astral yarrow]

I hate how good one of our augs is

[halcyon breach]

Oh yeah it for sure will

[astral yarrow]

thinking you fucking blasted that rank 1

[halcyon breach]

I don't see Brood being an allstars boss to begin with

[astral yarrow]

quick -300k cause aug is aids

[halcyon breach]

Abolish Aug, Abolish Aag

[astral yarrow]

If my aug wasnt named budgetspyro

it'd be augaard

[halcyon breach]

Missed your shot

[atomic mountain]

I have a friend in group that gets 2x pi and aug and enh. Shaman buff.... he doubles his dmg with this shit

[astral yarrow]

nah budgetspyro is far superior

[visual fern]

That's just augkwaard....

[astral yarrow]

augward is pretty good as well

[visual fern]

https://tenor.com/b1kZx.gif

[astral yarrow]

badum tss

[halcyon breach]

goodness

60fps gif

[astral yarrow]

that gif is so high fps holy

[visual fern]

Love week 1 heroic...

[thick hamlet]

how good is test of ToM

[visual fern]

Where is my M+!

[halcyon breach]

Same..

So small

with 6/8HC

Couldn't win with maps either, have only seen a single on my mage

[ornate mountain]

not having warbreaker feels wrong

[visual fern]

My gear is very

😩

[atomic mountain]

I have run 35 8tier delves and didnt seen 1 single

[halcyon breach]

Better upgrade that ring and shoulders man..

[visual fern]

No point now

We killed ansurek

[astral yarrow]

4 maps on on 1 alt, 3 on second and 1 map on main

[visual fern]

Reset > M+

[astral yarrow]

guy in guild had 6 maps

with 5 zekvir spawns

like

what

[atomic mountain]

Luckily i got the rare back in nlrmal yesterday in raid

[atomic mountain]

Cant even be caus maps are capped on 3 per week per charakter

[halcyon breach]

They aren't

It was a moment of spreading misinformation on the internet

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/we-do-a-little-trolling-misinformation-toji-no-miko-kaoru-mashiko-gif-24078541

[wintry jewel]

we gotta get this ilvl up sir

[visual fern]

Can't wait to craft 636 wep next week too...

[wintry jewel]

truth

[halcyon breach]

big damage imminent

[daring heron]

wtf

why is gfurious slacking

[visual fern]

My delves were shit my m0s were shit my split was shit

I'm warrior so my tier is shit too!

But yeah basically grinded as much as I could till H ansu kill

[thick kelp]

Deserved for playing fury ngl

[visual fern]

Now that it's dead

[wintry jewel]

Ya they are prio'ing the tank over me in splits. Pain

[visual fern]

No point till m+

[thick kelp]

(I got shit loot too on main and I am coping)

Why did they have to make Deva tier so good?

[visual fern]

What does M+ upgrade to

615?

[halcyon breach]

As in max ilvl?

626 full upgraded iirc

613 highest base drop

[grand idol]

Whatever heroic is right

[visual fern]

End of dung upgrade

So I farm sacbrood from a +10 or w.e

Max valorstone upgrade = ?

[halcyon breach]

Yes so 626 max ilvl full upgraded

[grand idol]

oh wow, you only need +3 for hero track

[visual fern]

Oh

Bigly

[grand idol]

thats great

[thick kelp]

farm +9

[visual fern]

And can farm 9s

[thick kelp]

10's for vault tho

[visual fern]

Yah just do 8x 10

Then homework 9s

[grand idol]

I read that wrong

[halcyon breach]

Just got my Ara Ara from m0 as well

[grand idol]

Whyh would it be in that order rip

[halcyon breach]

Just before HC ansurek tonight

[thick kelp]

HC Ansurek

is so fucking good

[halcyon breach]

Yeah it's a great fight

[wintry jewel]

Had my mark of khardros drop today...as a 580 ilvl warbound adventure track trinket

[halcyon breach]

Though very err

Interesting

As a caster

[thick kelp]

love caster tears

[halcyon breach]

Every single knockup in P1 I had CDs about to be used or were used

As Arcane

[atomic mountain]

what changes are for us in hc first 3 bosses. or is it like normal

[halcyon breach]

It's like Normal

[thick kelp]

Arcane mage is mental

on normal u have 0 line ups, on HC all lineups

[atomic mountain]

nice then i try to manage killing 4 hc bosses bevore wednesday

[halcyon breach]

Yeah I absolutely railed the shield add

And the smallies in P3

Kinda unethical, but so is Fury

[thick kelp]

Playing Fury on Ansurek is troll

p3 matters

Arms owns

[visual fern]

Adds matter

[halcyon breach]

Fury solos the roots

[thick kelp]

Havoc, enha solos the roots

Play arm for boss dam

Fury root damage nerfed nxt week anyway

[visual fern]

No

[atomic mountain]

bro delay roar and bladstorm and you solo it XD

[thick kelp]

Im ethical Arms gamer

I solo roots

(this tier will end with 2x Fury on Queen)

[visual fern]

I have embraced the prot/fury life

Arms is die

[thick kelp]

Arms is kill

[visual fern]

Prob tanking M+ too

[halcyon breach]

I'm (hopefully) avoiding the tank bullet

[atomic mountain]

arms is love. arms is life

[halcyon breach]

Just so I can charge release spirit

[atomic mountain]

i only took the shot for delves

[boreal frost]

Demolish locks the character in place, and is a channel(rooted cast).
So, like TBC Slam?
With that in mind, why doesn't Demolish replace Slam, if they are going to give it the mechanics that slam used to have?

Sorry, just logged into my arms and had a look.

[thick kelp]

Got given shield + 1h on all warrior mirros from our splits

Didnt even consent

[visual fern]

My split didn't even drop those

Dropped like 5x 1h and 3x shields in the other one

[thick kelp]

:deadaf

[visual fern]

Why play

https://tenor.com/YGoE.gif

[wintry jewel]

First 2 splits dropped heroic court 2h, my split did not

[thick kelp]

Just go do the warbound gear glitch

for sword + shield

[halcyon breach]

Speedrun ban any%

[visual fern]

I have gotten

0 warbound gear

To date

😄

[thick kelp]

Garm is bench warmer anywya

he just needs to tank first day m+

[thick kelp]

I got 1 crossbow

Despairg

[halcyon breach]

Our hunter got a warbound Princess fist wep

Very cool

[atomic mountain]

who is garm and what bench XD

[wintry jewel]

We actually got so much warbound gear it was crazy. Like 6 of the rare mastery / haste necks

[atomic mountain]

wait what? bosses dropp warbound? thought only tiersets are

[halcyon breach]

They drop warbound everything

[atomic mountain]

only thing my normal raid got where fucking 7 boe

[atomic mountain]

Oo

[halcyon breach]

But it drops at the ilvl below what you killed on

So his fist weapon was Normal, as it dropped from a HC Princess

[atomic mountain]

but thats compleet broken for gearing alts wtf.

[halcyon breach]

Well yeah

But unless you're lucky, you wont get many of them over a long span of time

[steep osprey]

Don’t do the warbound exploit

[atomic mountain]

well. cleared the normal raid with 3 chars and didnt even see s.o. dropp that thing XD

[steep osprey]

Imagine doing that after blizzard banned people for renown

People are so dumb

And this is even worse than that

[atomic mountain]

dafuq how does this even work?

[halcyon breach]

Don't find out

[steep osprey]

^

If you fuck around, you’re gonna find out you got banned

[atomic mountain]

nah i dont. but with my luck i do it without intention and get banned XD

[steep osprey]

I understand how it came to be tbh

But it is an exploit

[steep osprey]

Some people might have lol

Unfortunate if they get banned

But there’s no reason to do the raid twice

So idk who does that lol

[halcyon breach]

Boost

[steep osprey]

Fair enough

Never boosted

I never got any warbound raid gear

But I did see some people get it

[atomic mountain]

ther are alot that have id and try to kill the one boss on and on so they can buy the gear.

season 3 raid i had the same monk in 4 raids for the fist weappon if the council

[halcyon breach]

Okay but you can't trade gear if you already killed it once that week on that difficulty

[steep osprey]

I didn’t know people could trade that person gear

Oh they can’t

[halcyon breach]

You are locked from loot after the first kill on that difficulty each week

[steep osprey]

Yeah

[atomic mountain]

nice to know. mby he also didnt know. always joined with "i buy this fist for a mill"

XD

[steep osprey]

Is warbound gear also tradeable?

[halcyon breach]

It's warbound

[steep osprey]

Ok

[visual fern]

B-o-We

[steep osprey]

Lmao

BoWE

[visual fern]

Think that's a hrothmar original

Idr

Def not mine though

[atomic mountain]

next coming addon XD

[gaunt owl]

gonna blame you for swapping side each time

you are the betrayer

[visual fern]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hl7FKfl3O2Y&ab_channel=PresidentGeorgeW.Bush

[atomic mountain]

ARMS IS LOVE. ARMS IS LIFE

Population Size is sad

[thick kelp]

Fury will always be more popular even if Arms is meta

Arms players can play Fury but Fury players cant play Arms

[atomic mountain]

That sounds hot af

[plucky fern]

and probably around 20k of those fury players are grey log casual monkeys

idk why but 90% of fury warriors i see in pug raids cant do damage for some reason

[visual fern]

Real warriors play both

[plucky fern]

when its so damn easy

[visual fern]

[atomic mountain]

Well not everyone can clear hc. Better log grey than nothig

[thick kelp]

My gnome warrior is Fury spec

[atomic mountain]

Ehy gnome XD

[visual fern]

[atomic mountain]

Let me guess. Female with 2 braids and pink hair?♿

[plucky fern]

idk how someone can clear heroic but can't do damage with fury warrior
literally see adds -> smash cooldowns -> top dps

[thick kelp]

Male gnome

[thick kelp]

Normal gnome, not mecha DW

[visual fern]

Oh god bless

[atomic mountain]

Cause there are enough slacking furys that only can do aoe and not single target XD

[visual fern]

Okay

[thick kelp]

pvp andy chara

[atomic mountain]

Okay then i take back the wheelchair XD

[thick kelp]

For badge instead

[atomic mountain]

how heavy is it to get 1600 pvp rating? only played demonhunter on 1800 but i want my tier set token as fast as possible XD

[thick kelp]

If you play arms its hard, if you play fury its easy

Arms for pvp is very bottom of the barrel spec

[atomic mountain]

fury better play solo or 2v2?

i got bis m0 and raid normal weapon. so i could give it a try XD

[thick kelp]

Fury better for all pvp content

everything just dies during your opener if they dont personal + external

Pilav xd emote

[atomic mountain]

ye but fury 1v1 2v2?

[thick kelp]

ye

fury fury fury

arms is bin

Even Magnuz isnt playing it

[atomic mountain]

bro i wanna know if i should get a pvp partner or 2v2s or if i should just spam 1v1 XD

[thick kelp]

Fastest way to 1600 is to 2v2 with some glad guy

otherwise you can do solo rgb or solo shuffle

Fury is very good in solo shuffle

[atomic mountain]

okok then i have to get some pvp gear i guess 😄

thx

[cold narwhal]

off topic is M+ rating still split to Tyranical and Fortified or how does it work now?

[grave mulch]

Unholy is missing from the list!

are they 14?

[astral yarrow]

@visual fern @halcyon breach how much warbound gear did you guys get ish

cause we had a guy get 6 items in 3 splits while a lot of us got 0-1

proud owner of a bow

[halcyon breach]

I've personally have had none, but Uniiq got a Warbound normal Princess fist wep

Someone also got the rare neck from Sikran

[visual fern]

I've gotten 1 piece from grim batol that was like ilvl 80

So

Effectively 0

@daring heron watching your HC ansurek vod

Intervene is goated

Second wind does 0

Wyd

[thick kelp]

2nd wind does 0 cuz raid does no damage

[visual fern]

It's nice

All the damage is p1

Then anything after that is self-inflicted

[thick kelp]

Silken Court SW

[astral yarrow]

we had a guy looting ring off ansurek warbound

[visual fern]

Oh my raid got like

10 pieces of warbound tier

I thought you meant like me personally

[atomic mountain]

@halcyon breach i dont know if i get it right but is the exploid with clearing the raid on and on again? i have just 2/3 lfr and want the chance of a tier set from the 3rd boss. now i dont wanna join the raid again XD

[halcyon breach]

That is indeed the exploit

[atomic mountain]

-.-

[halcyon breach]

Since for some reason, it sometimes either doesn't lock you out, or you can still loot Warbound items from bosses you've killed before

[thick kelp]

God I love exploiting

Rank 1 Fury on queen is like 615 ilvl

Cheater

[halcyon breach]

He's 611

He has however also just been fed a lot of gear from raid

[atomic mountain]

well so i better dont try to join lfr again in case of getting banned cause i could get a warbound?

[halcyon breach]

I personally wouldn't but I wouldn't expect them to ban absolutely everyone who accidentally get a piece they shouldn't get

[atomic mountain]

i think too. in my normal raid alos only Plate dropped and alot of rare stuff. easy to get that fat

[halcyon breach]

Rekilling bosses for people who pug or do LFR is something that's fairly frequent

[atomic mountain]

okay so it is only sus for blizz beyond lfr especially on BiS bosses like queen

[halcyon breach]

That's not what I'm saying

[thick kelp]

Can lfr even drop warbound gear

since it goes a tier lower

but there is nothing below lfr

[halcyon breach]

I'm saying it's fairly frequent that people would be rekilling various bosses they're already locked for, because they're pugging and joined a group that still has to clear a boss or two they've already killed themself

Having 2 kills on a boss this week does not indicate a person tries to exploit

Having 10+ though which some have, very much could

[atomic mountain]

oki

[visual fern]

I just helped my friends kill HC ansurek hehe

Only 15 times...

[thick kelp]

[daring heron]

[safe jay]

for intermission mobility ?

[visual fern]

Needs an intervention so he doesn't get a-wrested

Or needed rather

He swapped about halfway in

[zenith warren]

recent trinkets buffs are included in raidbots?

[astral yarrow]

if they are coming on tuesday/wednesday, they wont be in until then

[cyan silo]

Anyone swapped to fury for broodmaster or just sticking with arms?

[atomic mountain]

just change to aoe spec with arms.

[thick kelp]

Das bait on hc

[atomic mountain]

i also stayed with ST spec and didnt dropped of in dmg board. delay your roar or bladestorm few ecs and kill the adds with that. same like root on princess

[thick kelp]

Just keep going full st but pickup DN and maybe cleave if your team lacks aoe

[atomic mountain]

for minmaxing dmg. in which fights can i use spelldeflect in raid?

does the spelldeflect wa also works in raid?

[halcyon breach]

You can't reflect any abilities in raid, use it as damage reduction

But a lot of abilities can be DR'd with it

[atomic mountain]

oh okay. i guess everything that hits me can be DR´d cause i dont get meeled??

[halcyon breach]

If you take magic damage, from any source, you can DR it with SR

[atomic mountain]

yes but how do i know if it is magic dmg.

[safe jay]

you can look in Journal

or look it up in Details

[atomic mountain]

okok

[safe jay]

or if you use some kind of addon for combat text for yourself you can often see it in the colour of the damage recieved

but Details or Journal is the most common way I guess. But I think the most Raid abilitys in Raid are some kind of magic school aoe

[atomic mountain]

i nearly use no addons. only have WA to see my mous while i rightclick and details XD

[safe jay]

apart from sludgefist in SL

[atomic mountain]

👍

[safe jay]

nearly ever dot is magic apart from bleed ofc

and nearly every aoe ability by bosses is some kind of magic dmg

very rar to have physical AoE or Enviroment effects atleast what i remember

[hard kernel]

This is the first time I've played war since BfA and I'm having an absolute blast on arms, never really been a fury fan, any tips or tricks? I'm currently 6/8 N and 4/8 H

[hexed parrot]

Did we expect any embelishment tuning yet?

[astral yarrow]

would've most likely been in the notes for the coming reset hotfixes if there were

[slow saddle]

so that means versa as arms ?

ascendance isnt better ?

ah well makes sense tbh seeing we would have to loose 3 ilvl on weapon

[thick kelp]

whuh

[pliant jetty]

With 4pc
Arms is meta ?

[slender sonnet]

Meta is fake

They make tier lists to control u

Play what you enjoy cause who gives a fuck

[atomic mountain]

Arms is not Meta
Arms is a lifestyle

[scarlet spade]

🤣

[hard kernel]

Arms has become my lifestyle

I have moved away from warlock but I haven't told my guild yet

[atomic mountain]

exact same here XD every addon i play my lock in the story only to realise again that the arms warry makes 10x more fun XD

[scarlet spade]

idk guys. in started i was fury, after 3 weeks, i play now arms. idk but arms playable than fury. fury is lazy D:

[misty bridge]

They're equal in raid

[slow saddle]

ye my guess would be until 639 weap ascendance pulls ahead 😄

[atomic mountain]

fury has early burst and arms takes the burst at end withe exe passive

and it feels like arms scales better with gear. Fury is strong even with shit gear but arms feels better with good gear

[scarlet spade]

yeah end of boss life arms better! That is ok for me!

[tropic dew]

For execute phase, do you just execute + tactician overpower into double buffed MS or 2*execute + MS?

[scarlet spade]

with juggenauts talent!

[atomic mountain]

only exe and ms to refresh rend

[atomic mountain]

without 4p set. with idk. i am unlucky af so i will not figgur out till in 8 weeks XD

[scarlet spade]

nah! well, never say never! D:

[atomic mountain]

i didnt 😄 thats why i saied in 8 weeks 😄

but unlucky me have seen every single token dropping for warry. didnt get one but the rare cloak thats bis 😄

[safe jay]

with Set you wait for 2 Stacks of Set

and you ofc need 2 Exe Precision stacks

but that comes naturally because you rarly cast MS anyways apart from BS passiv MS

[atomic mountain]

@safe jay what are you doin in exe phase if you dont have enoghe rage to cast exe? that happened alot yesterday :/

[thick kelp]

Manage rage better

[atomic mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/woohoo-celebrate-gif-3719791047300891146

how

[mossy vale]

Always ensure you're not on full stacks of overpower.

[safe jay]

press SKS / OP

wait for Autohit to happen

like a peasant

or chargeweave

[thick kelp]

Read the guide

[atomic mountain]

okok

[thick kelp]

it says pretty well what rage breakpoints to press OP and sks

[safe jay]

yeah agree

and tbh its kinda natural to do that when you starved

some rage free fillers

and we chillin

Duality auf Arms warrior. Pre Execute you barely manage to spend your rage and in Execute its rough

[atomic mountain]

well i dit this as filler too didnt know thats legit

[atomic mountain]

check

[small raven]

Colossus has been fun tbh

Cleave chunks

[fossil rampart]

dude is it just me or fury is like actually way too good for the raid?

[lusty creek]

how's your rotation with executioner's precision? 2 execute and MS if above 40 rage and keep OP as filler? or 2 execute and 1 OP if it has 2 charges before MS?

[astral yarrow]

it depends on whether you have tier or not

if no tier, you just execute forever until you have to refresh DW and Rend

if 4pc you'll MS on 2 Lethal Blow + 2 Executioners Precision stacks

[atomic mountain]

what are we doing if Lethal Blow does not proc and MS is off CD? do we still wait or do we just MS directly?

[astral yarrow]

When do you press MS according to previous message?

[atomic mountain]

yes weh nwe dont get 2 stacks from Lethal Blow or Executioners Precision and we can use MS already again

[astral yarrow]

what was the 2 conditions for pressing MS?

it was not an either or

it was both

[mild cove]

Question for my fellow arms warriors. After your opener how do you manage your cooldowns when they are on all different timers ?

[astral yarrow]

you send them

at least on ST

[safe jay]

and apart from Colossus there shouldnt be much desync no?

[atomic mountain]

so even if we have like 15 sec no chance of getting both stacks up to 2 we dont MS?

[mild cove]

Should you wait for them to come back or just use when them come off cooldown

[astral yarrow]

i mean you arent dropping EP stacks since you are still pressing execute, so no, you wait until both conditions are fulfilled

[astral yarrow]

to come back?

[safe jay]

you press MS to refresh rend and deep wounds in Execute without tier

thats it

[mild cove]

Do you now any arms warriors to watch their gameplay

[astral yarrow]

Not anyone that exclusively play arms no. Maybe Nomeratur. I had 2 splits as arms this week that i streamed as well

[mild cove]

New to war, just trying to figure out in between ad pulls my cooldown management.

[astral yarrow]

you just send your CDs as much as possible as a rule of thumb

[atomic mountain]

okay and what if we cant Overpower or any other ability cause they are on cd? then use slam?
my problem is that i have no luck with procs^^

[mild cove]

Cause when you do your all in I feel like your cooldowns are on different time of coming up.

[astral yarrow]

why would you spend the rage you have on a worse ability than wait for an auto attack to allow you to press a better ability that has synergy with other things

[mild cove]

Main thing is keeping bleeds up and sweeping strikes

[astral yarrow]

i feel like this is getting into "turn brain on territory"

[astral yarrow]

if you are talking m+, arms kinda blows compared to fury since a lot of arms damage is from roar that takes 16 seconds to tick out

so if stuff lives the 5 seconds it usually does in m0, arms will look very bad

[atomic mountain]

thats why i ask. i didnt even know it is legit to better wait for something to happen tan doing to much 😄 someon told me to never miss any milisecond of spaming attacks. but now i will wait for aa then to happen

[mild cove]

That makes sense

[astral yarrow]

you are overspending on execute

[mild cove]

Would you say arms is better in single target or aoe

[astral yarrow]

arms is objectively better in ST and fury is objectively better in AOE

[atomic mountain]

i dont mean exe phase i mean the normal rotation before exe phase

[mild cove]

Okay I will give fury a shot for sure

[atomic mountain]

all in all fury is for burst and arms is for longer fights

[safe comet]

Idk, cleave be hitting for 2mil sometimes. I only really get beat by ret pally on AOE because they’re busted right now

[astral yarrow]

you'd also get beaten by fury warriors 🤷‍♀️

[safe comet]

Only when their 1.5 minute CDs are up

[astral yarrow]

you kinda forgot to mention that part, but running out of rage pre execute is kinda hard

[astral yarrow]

or their 45 second OF

[balmy swallow]

prolly a dumb question but does sweep work on slayer's strike?

[safe comet]

Odyn alone isn’t enough imo

[astral yarrow]

your opinion is kind of irrelevant with regards to facts though

[safe comet]

I swapped from fury mainly because I hated waiting for all the CDs. Arms just feels more consistent in aoe

[mild cove]

Appreciate the advice I’ll check out the twitch catch y’all later.

[safe comet]

My facts are diff I guess idk

[hard kernel]

We love feelycraft.

[atomic mountain]

back to my questin then XD
do i wait pre exe phase to fulfilled both conditions before MS or do i MS on CD then?

[astral yarrow]

no, you send MS as soon as its ready as its your best button pre execute

[astral yarrow]

real

[atomic mountain]

okay now we speak 1 language ❤️

thx mate

[atomic mountain]

i thought we love arms warry

[thick kelp]

Ayo

[astral yarrow]

@mild cove this guy

[thick kelp]

Just wait till mythic prog starts and every warrior gonna be arms

[astral yarrow]

[latent moss]

[atomic mountain]

[safe jay]

same thinking here

[latent moss]

ngl i dont wanna play fury xd

ovinax was a nightmare

[astral yarrow]

same

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[atomic mountain]

well do we know how much % more dmg does give the P4 to Arms and Furs?

[latent moss]

ye

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6Eh0w/edit?gid=1035028190#gid=1035028190

[boreal glade]

Do yall have issues with spending rage outside of exe?

[latent moss]

y thats normal

[astral yarrow]

welcome to arms

[boreal glade]

I literally use ignore pain to not over cap

Do yall whirlwind or slam?

[latent moss]

slam

[boreal glade]

Man that blows

[latent moss]

ww is useless

[boreal glade]

20 rage W

[iron spruce]

on silken court saving cds for first set of adds ya or nay ?

[thick kelp]

nay

[latent moss]

i perma send

[boreal glade]

I never save

[latent moss]

as arms on all bosses

[boreal glade]

I send always

Arms warrior brain

[fossil rampart]

as fury it can be worth saving cds for adds cuz of huge aoe but eh sometimes it's worth but not most of the time

[latent moss]

based brain

arms has insane aoe as well

[boreal glade]

Also do yall use skull split like just on cd

[latent moss]

i just cba

[thick kelp]

If it linesup it lines up

[latent moss]

troar bs will outburst most classes

[fossil rampart]

yeah but on arms it can be more scuffed

[boreal glade]

Or only for rage during exe/roar

[fossil rampart]

it is worth saving sometimes though

[atomic mountain]

wait do i get it right that we only get 1-3% with slayer????

[fossil rampart]

just gotta know when

[latent moss]

yes

[boreal glade]

Bc I find myself pressing skullsplit basically only after roar and during exe

[latent moss]

on cd pretty much

[boreal glade]

Bc otherwise it’s like overcapping me

[latent moss]

and in exe

for rage

[boreal glade]

Okay thank you

[latent moss]

can always check the apl see how robot does it

this will answer all ur questions u might have

[boreal glade]

I wish skull split cost rage above 35%

N did more

Just lemme spend rage

[boreal glade]

Thanks brother

[atomic mountain]

so it is not even better to wear a 2P if you could get mor base stats on other slots cause they are higher in GS?

[boreal glade]

Is fury still like way stronger after the nerfs?

[steel furnace]

[latent moss]

wdym still

it never was to begin with

it just deals with adds a lot better than arms

a lot better than all other specs actually

arms fucks on boss damage

[boreal glade]

Rlly? I got the impression from some higher end raiders that fury was comprable on boss dmg but obviously tanker n way better on add burst

[plush belfry]

is arms scaled as prot in delves or something

fury solo = piss, arms = chunka

[latent moss]

no its called fury warrior

infinite self sustain

and random passive drs

that are busted

[latent moss]

nah

i mean fury is optimal tbh

but arms is better on boss damage if thats what u need

[grave mulch]

NExus princess heroic is ASS

[latent moss]

at the end of the day it doesnt matter

[latent moss]

wdym

[latent moss]

play what u want to play

[grave mulch]

The fight sucks

[spice cradle]

Havent played in like 4 months hows arms now?

[grave mulch]

I did have the dream tonight being fed pi and Aug evoker buffs

[halcyon breach]

The fight owns

[astral yarrow]

i found it kinda boring

and the downtime if you get the shadow thingy is giga aids because you have to run out twice

[halcyon breach]

just don't get the mechanic noob

[grave mulch]

Real Arms warrior advice 101

[halcyon breach]

Honestly didn't mind it

[astral yarrow]

bro i need all the brain power in the world to play fury ST

[atomic mountain]

needed new pants? XD

[halcyon breach]

I think the fight itself is pretty fun on HC, and I imagine Mythic would be better

[latent moss]

man i need to like

put jugg mfe right next to each other

[halcyon breach]

It's straight up just a fight where you have to dodge which is simple, but a good kind of simple

[latent moss]

should i send sd is jugg falling off do i have 3 stacks of mfe

[astral yarrow]

if someone doesnt cook a WA that figures that shit out for me, i will at some point

[wanton sierra]

how come pvp players got 8m hp and i got 4?

[latent moss]

then sks/op breakpoints as well

do i have opporutnist

thank god

[halcyon breach]

They got 626/639 ilvl gear in PvP

[grave mulch]

i was sweating it so hard tonight alot pulls maintaining 1.2m damage sometimes a little higher

[latent moss]

opportunist wa is instant

WA dev goated for making it for me

[wanton sierra]

but in openworld ?

[atomic mountain]

#pvp

[latent moss]

and vozo for fury 🐐

[astral yarrow]

love them

[astral yarrow]

as soon as you enter pvp combat, it scales

[latent moss]

do i have opportunist do i have 2 MP stacks do i have less than 80 rage

do i have 3x mfe how much left on jugg do i have 2 stacks of sd

[wanton sierra]

oh... im 566 with pvp set... 626 when bg or arena...

[latent moss]

this thing fucks

but

its annoying at times

[thick kelp]

I think wallife alrdy has smth like this, plays kaching when any condition is met. Atleast thats what I got from watching his strim

[astral yarrow]

yeh

[latent moss]

i will make it

ig

shouldnt take long

track stacks track aura count

[thick kelp]

Track duration

on SD

[latent moss]

ye and jugg

[astral yarrow]

yeah its just a lot of conditions to make mingle

[latent moss]

🎦

[thick kelp]

Then some sound

when any condition met

[latent moss]

ask walli to share it

[astral yarrow]

prolly will so i dont have to do shit myself

[daring heron]

cool fight but ye this stinks as melee

[astral yarrow]

yeah kinda feel like that should've been 2 separate mechanics

[flat willow]

just death's advance

[echo monolith]

guys, be honest with me, does colossus arms suck?

[flat willow]

yes

[astral yarrow]

how does that help with the assassin targeting and subsequent orbs splitting out tho

[flat willow]

it helps when you see everyone run from melee and just afk on the boss

it's dopamine

[astral yarrow]

run from melee

i get the feeling you dont know what mechanic we are talking about here

[flat willow]

there are 2 parts, when you put the void zones

and when the void zones suck you in

you are forced to do the first part ofc

[echo monolith]

will the buffs for colossus help or is it still trash afterwards? 😄

[flat willow]

but you can just ignore the second part on dk

still trash

[astral yarrow]

no one talked about the void zones and the pull

[echo monolith]

alright, thanks! 😄

[thick kelp]

omega

[tawdry quail]

If u can pilot colossus well, you’ll do big big damage

It ain’t as easy as warriors normally are

[thick kelp]

Pilot colossus

XD

[flat willow]

hahahaha

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/pacific-rim-gipsy-danger-connpod-raleigh-becket-yancy-becket-gif-26808286

[flat willow]

to be fair, you need a really high IQ to pilot colossus

[atomic mountain]

which buff?

[thorny phoenix]

did anyone tested https://www.wowhead.com/item=218126/befoulers-syringe ?

[halcyon breach]

Yes it's good for ST

[astral yarrow]

https://discordapp.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069/1284264317428043899

[worldly kernel]

Nexus feels like shit when you have most ranged and you get the lines lol

[thorny phoenix]

Thanks 🙂

[atomic mountain]

you got 1?

[thorny phoenix]

yes on a delve 8

[atomic mountain]

big congratz

[thorny phoenix]

but I got 606 wep already and 2 sparks so gonna sim it I guess haha

[echo monolith]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-for-mythic-week-boomkin-buffed-dps-warrior-nerfed-346658

i just switched to slayer and immediately do more dmg, i didnt even read what slayer does yet

[thick kelp]

Still trash

[tawdry quail]

It is definitely the hardest one out of arms fury slayer n fury mountain thane

[shadow ibex]

colossus eats ass

[tawdry quail]

Beta arms player

Since back then, I’m telling you. Colossus is definitely good

You just gotta land your demolish and line it up with all your other dmg increases

If u do it right, you’ll have a 10 stack colossus for every pack

[valid flame]

I am colossus

[echo monolith]

and you think you are the only one who had that genius idea? lol

[shadow ibex]

you have to do all that

or do more dmg

with RNG procs

[tawdry quail]

Yall sound butthurt as hell here colossus

Why so judgemental?

It’s legit just a class in a game 😂

[echo monolith]

i tried it, i wanted to play it, its just worse

thats it

[tawdry quail]

Yeah we all know that

But I’m sayin colossus is still good if u play it right

[echo monolith]

so worse = good

got it, thanks

[tawdry quail]

That’s quite ignorant

If u want good, then go play fury lmao

Why u playing arms

[echo monolith]

looking into that next

[flat willow]

You are playing colossus wrong, btw

[cedar peak]

guys i cant decide between warlock or warrior. Are warrior gonna be amazing this expansion?

[frigid cipher]

arms is also just a top tier spec in this raid

[flat willow]

Which is very funny

[halcyon breach]

Let me look into the future and tell you in a moment

[flat willow]

Play warrior, warlock died with metamorphosis

[cedar peak]

So their strong?

[halcyon breach]

I think you should just play the one you think is the most fun, because we can't answer this for you

[tawdry quail]

Who? Me?

[flat willow]

Yes

[tawdry quail]

How?

[halcyon breach]

Warrior is good right now, we can't tell you anything more than that

[blazing elm]

You guys think the patch to buff demolish 20% will help compete in dps?

[flat willow]

Because thats not how you use demolish

[cedar peak]

Banezi, well ive always loved warrior, since the first day i saw a video on "video.google" in 2006 when a high geared warrior dueled someone outside orgrimmar, i guess i always loved it

[tawdry quail]

Then how do u use it?

[flat willow]

Its 20% on the first 2 hits

Aka 0%

[thick kelp]

Not really when the damage come from the 3rd hit

and they buffed first 2

[blazing elm]

Ah, damn

[shadow ibex]

ive gotten fuckin 7 cloaks from delves this week

[flat willow]

I'll let you figure it out since you are so good at colossus

[halcyon breach]

Then I think you should play warrior my friend

[shadow ibex]

wth is this shit

[halcyon breach]

It sounds like you really like the class

[tawdry quail]

I wanna know how y know I play colossus wrong when I ain’t even told how to play colossus

[cedar peak]

yeh maybe your right. Ive played wow since 2006 actively casually tho since wotlk.. But nothing gives me the same memorie as a high geared warrior charged and nearly 2 hit a guy lol

[echo monolith]

literally gaslighting at this point

[flat willow]

You did, you said you waited to lign up your cd to press demolish

Thats not how you are supposed to play Colossus

[tawdry quail]

And u tryna say that’s wrong? Idk what u do wrong but my demolish and colossus smash are always lined up

[cedar peak]

the question i do have, im in a delve and these "dot" damage really kills me, is there anything i can do?

[tawdry quail]

By the time I use my first demolish raw

[flat willow]

See

[tawdry quail]

It comes off cd with 10staxks

[flat willow]

[shadow ibex]

just play what you want you know more than us

[balmy swallow]

they shouldnt line up, that means youre delaying other stuff for demolish, which is why Garrosh is telling you youre doing it wrong, i guess?

[halcyon breach]

If you struggle living, putting Brann to healer will help a lot. It'll just take longer to finish it
Otherwise just pay more attention to using interrupts and stunning casts

[tawdry quail]

Well shit I’m in here tryna learn about colossus but I’m just met with but hurt people and judgmental people. I legit don’t look at guides and ain’t no meta slave

[cedar peak]

ITS the kobold mystic, PAIN in the ass

[halcyon breach]

Arms/Warrior is capable of soloing delves, but unless you're very comfortable and/or geared, you should just take it slow

[cedar peak]

so i should be fury for this?

[echo monolith]

you could have said the last part first then nobody would have felt the need to even reply to you

[tawdry quail]

Are you meant to spam demolish whenever it’s up?

[tough tangle]

fury would be easier imo yes

[flat willow]

Yes

[halcyon breach]

You can do it as either Arms or Fury, but Fury just has more sustain for solo content

[flat willow]

Thats why colossus sucks gameplay wise

[thick kelp]

Only thing with colossus is outside of exec send demolish on CD, inside exe send it when colossus smash debuff is on the target and in AOE always have sweeping strikes up when using it

[cedar peak]

thank you 🙂

[flat willow]

It desyncs with your other cd and feels bad to play

[zenith oriole]

Question if we lose the deft experience and grab fatality would that be worth it?

[flat willow]

Thats why even if Colossus and slayer were equal id rather play slayer

[tawdry quail]

But if that’s the case how comes you wanna press demolish on cd? Is it more damage?

Overall

[flat willow]

Yes

Just pressing it on cd is more damage

Except during execute phase

[thick kelp]

Pls read what i posted

[flat willow]

Where its easier to line up with cs

[thick kelp]

thats all there is to colossus

[cedar peak]

thats the debuff i mean

[thick kelp]

its not hard to pilot

[shadow ibex]

no

[thick kelp]

Im not yellow name my info is safe to read

[tawdry quail]

Well it kinda is when u tryna make everything line up without downtime. But I guess if u just spamming demolish on cooldown, it’s no different than basic arms

That’s a shame

[atomic mountain]

playing both too and i am enjoying arms 10x more than lock

[thick kelp]

With proper play and enough crit + haste your everysingle demolish will land inside a CS window with just pressing everything on CD

its just piss

[shadow ibex]

colossus was designed in like 2010

[tawdry quail]

It feels so bad when it don’t crit too. Especially if u stack it up to 10 and it don’t crit. I jus wasted that time stacking it really

[shadow ibex]

then you get slayer with procs that proc on everything

oh you MS and cleave ok here's a free bladestorm proc that applies 1% dmg debuff on target

no bullshit building stacks

to make OP stronger as your only aoe buff

[tawdry quail]

Oh yeah btw, the tier set. Is it good?

[halcyon breach]

No

[tawdry quail]

Seems like some dmg increase for OP and some crit for MS n Cleave

And that’s it

[silk kite]

If only they made the Demolish CD reduction bigger to have it up more would it be able to have some impact. Also, execute shouldn't be hitting that hard imo for that proc rate

[shadow ibex]

you can just check it in game

[halcyon breach]

Well since you like to play Colossus, it's technically good for you

But it's worse for Slayer

[shadow ibex]

actually emberassing on blizz end they didnt tune our set

[halcyon breach]

meh

I don't much care personally, if it means our baseline is really strong

[thick kelp]

Its like 9.7% for colossus

Actually insane tierset

[shadow ibex]

i mean what it does to execute prio