arms

[fossil fable]

does death count on delve affects the key chest too or just the other ones?

[tropic relic]

it doesnt affect the quality of loot IIRC< but if you die too much you wont get teh bountiful chest

which is why you always ust instantly leave the second you "fail" a delve

[neat yoke]

With all the delve items I managed to go down to literally 0 mastery on my gear so im back to arms for now It sims much higher 😄

[manic river]

Damn, my guild tried the raid these two days, first we beat everything with just some corrections, today we killed Bloodtwister but then got completely halted by the Silk Court

I guess I'll watch more content about it but I don't know exactly why is such a big step up

[fossil fable]

the tooltip says that dying influences the rewards

[untold trench]

We die like trolls, still get maps and bountiful chest - the only rule we adhere to is not dying 5 times

[sturdy flicker]

cuz the 2 last bosses are generaly a massive step up lol

[fossil fable]

its one bount chest per day right?

[woven wasp]

4

[fossil fable]

rly?

[woven wasp]

there are 4 bountiful delves a day

[valid flame]

*4 cloaks per day

[latent moss]

4 vers mastery rings per day

mad queens mandate + demolish + bladestorm

hoooooly channeling

[near ice]

demolish feels so good

[gusty oxide]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/r3RfUdhYmoF9Rm8Yc3h1zT

Pure ST build, still have one trashy trinket...

[zenith warren]

how is spark weapon vs 2x vers embellishments in sims rn?

[grave mulch]

shamans getting a rework. I wonder if we are next???

[gusty oxide]

It may be bugged, but i can't stack two vers embellishment

[olive nest]

[grave mulch]

you know it

[zenith warren]

seems like for bis gear it's like 1% behind (15k)

[severe palm]

we are still waiting on spark to craft item right?

[gusty oxide]

My vault will decide my road with sparks yeah

[grave mulch]

thats on the warrior Wowhead page

[gusty oxide]

i'd say to wait a week for the inevitable balancing that will come for mythic launch

[grave mulch]

why would they balance during to race to world first?

[gusty oxide]

Historicly there always was a balancing patch for mythic launch

[grave mulch]

i honestly dont think they will.

[gusty oxide]

Better safe than sorry, haha

[grave mulch]

Im gonna wait for first vault they go around that. Plus crafting vers emblishments are safe

[manic stirrup]

insane question lol

[gusty oxide]

Why do you think RWF guilds are preparing bazillion characters of multiple classes

😄

[grave mulch]

because they do it every year

its a staple

[gusty oxide]

Because last call balancing usualy turns the table for them

blobcat_shrug

[severe palm]

yeah , tough something was updated , dont wanna mess up yet

[manic stirrup]

not really

most rwf players specialize in 1-3 classes and only prep those

[gusty oxide]

At our general level of play however, you won't feel a big difference in your prog if you spend your sparks now

[manic stirrup]

they know what they are very certainly playing barring huge changes

they don’t prep a ton of different classes

besides the tanks

[gusty oxide]

3 classes is multiple classes

You're just paraphrasing what i'm saying

[grave mulch]

Like the way i see it is. Holding off first week sure cool. Ive seen Wordup say they have shotgun buffed and nerfed a few things like 2-3 weeks ago but nothing since that. Even Archimtiros hasnt posted nothing considering changes and the guy posts everything that will affect warriors and the wowhead page he maintains

[manic stirrup]

you cant predict what they are gonna change for the most part

unless something is egregiously op

they could decide to buff undertuned embellishments/classes/hero talents or they can decide not to

[grave mulch]

But im going to accept to go off a class writer then the average joes word thats for sure

[manic stirrup]

true but the vast majority of rwf players only do 1-2 with 3 being a noticeable outlier

[manic stirrup]

what are u even talking about man

[grave mulch]

Read up 2 then read that last one

talking about crafted gear

[gusty oxide]

in this discord.

in #dps-faq

[grave mulch]

We are in heroic week and mythic is only next week right?

[gusty oxide]

Aye

And there don't seem to have a free crest from clearing the raid

( or i missed it, because i cleared normal and half of heroic)

[grave mulch]

i havent seen a quest for a crest or nothing

only skip quest

[gusty oxide]

yeah

[vital rune]

Is there a reason the colossus m+ build has skullsplitter? Feels awkward to use

[shadow ibex]

more ST

and no where else to put that point really p sure

[vital rune]

Makes sense. Not having IP kind of stinks.

[nova marsh]

Can run it if u want

[shadow ibex]

[gusty oxide]

A rare magni set as a healer

[fossil fable]

the bountful chest is not guaranteed? got a green necklace im crying

[cloud dawn]

the have in the past

[grave mulch]

How recently? Last RWF? last 3??? I dont remember them doing it in DF?

I dont think they did in S1

[shadow ibex]

i think they have enough awareness not to nerf something when sparks are nonrefundable and p big money investment

i mean wouldnt be surprised but would be p tone deaf

slayer arms pipes

[grave mulch]

im waiting for them to buff Demolish so we can have the best of both hero trees depending on fights

[untold trench]

Demo is plenty strong, no?

[grave mulch]

Slayer is bis in raid and M+

[shadow ibex]

demo is p bad

unwiedly

[grave mulch]

fun in PVP

[shadow ibex]

doesnt crit

i cry

[untold trench]

Well, hopefully demo gets a fix

We dare to hope

[minor gust]

im good

I can go the whole expansion of colossus being dog

[shadow ibex]

buff colossus fix exe phase

[grave mulch]

I think if they buffed colossus it would knock fury over

[shadow ibex]

by buff i mean remove target req

or make dmg happen regardless if things move

[smoky kayak]

quest to kill ansurek is next week for w/e reason

[gusty oxide]

Oh, i see

Weird

[smoky kayak]

and we presume the reward will be an enchanted crest, like in DF

[gusty oxide]

So 619

[smoky kayak]

correct, use that to craft your weapon for "free"

• if you loot a mythic ilvl weapon somewhere, put that 619 in your OH (as Fury), and use gilded currency to upgrade other items
• if you don't loot a mythic weapon somewhere, recraft that 619 to mythic ilvl whenever feasible (might wanna wait for the next vault even) and continue to use it in your MH

[rare helm]

do we MS in exe or nah

it feels really bad

[smoky kayak]

the idea is to be efficient with your crests

[grave mulch]

Are we still good to craft our x2 vers bits after this vault coming up? Nothings been nerfed or buffed?

[rare helm]

anyone got a snazzy WA for MS in exe

i know its 2x exe and 2x OP

[smoky kayak]

we won't really know that till next week

so you're about 4 days early with that question

[minor gust]

you thinking we wont get notes till monday?

I figured friday

[smoky kayak]

probably not till friday +

its not fri either is it?

[grave mulch]

thank you for answering!

[hazy flower]

I'm just holding sparks till next week my fellow warrior got 619 weap from boss today during splits

if I dont get it I'm prob getting ascendance weap

[smoky kayak]

I sincerely doubt they'll adjust embellishments at this point, as nothing appears egregiously mistuned and players have already invested resources into crafting

however, whatever changes (if any) are made to arms/fury balance could affect your choice

[hazy flower]

Arms looks strong but I'd be surprised if they nerf it

tbh

[minor gust]

yeah not much reason to craft unless your guild feels like they need it to push week 1 aotc

[hazy flower]

fury might be tad too strong with the burst aoe it can give and st being almost as good as arms

[minor gust]

I think fury is fine

[shadow ibex]

fury doing what fury has the kit for

[minor gust]

mhmm

[smoky kayak]

I don't think they'll nerf Arms, if anything I suspect it might get a small buff (because it always seems to, when its behind Fury)

however, if they don't nerf Fury, that might encourage more people to play it instead

[shadow ibex]

ive been slamming slayer arms in m0s and doesnt feel awful

[west wasp]

whats the new arms warrior rotation?

[shadow ibex]

dont raid until weekend tho

[smoky kayak]

#dps-faq in the guides

[hazy flower]

yeah that's what I'm thinking too (I wouldn't expect an arms buff but generally yeah)

Fury is such an add killer

esp on ovi'nax

where adds actually need to die

[minor gust]

its hard not to think fury is insane while your playing arms because of all the adds dying instantly

I might stay on Arms for quite a few prog bosses just because our raid comp might go overboard on add cleave

[edgy solstice]

ayy started the night off with a 100

[nova marsh]

If we get nerfed EVREYONE is gonna say playing arms is trolling

I've had that a few times tbh

Procceeds to be top dps anyways lmao

[shadow ibex]

this exe rotation is cursed but relaxing

i hate it

let cleave pop EP and i think arms aoe feels gr8 tho

or buff MS

[nova marsh]

Cleave EP with how cleave is should just be a thing

also make EP apply to a whole pack and it'd probally be ridicious

And I've found exe to be okay but I haven't done the raid yet lol

[shadow ibex]

exe phase feels sorta like SL in not wasting OP resets i guess. unless just flooded with rage and spamming the exe when over 40 rage

playing around opportunist is cool i guess

[edgy solstice]

no fatality = auto W

[nova marsh]

Until they buff it

Lmao

[minor gust]

they not gonna buff fatality

they barely know it exists

[nova marsh]

I mean it got like 2 buffs in DF irrc

[edgy solstice]

would expect nerfs before buffs anyway

[nova marsh]

Probally just 1

They should nerf fury instead

[shadow ibex]

i think playing colossus with no Blord feels bad but only way to reach that would be fucking ravager unhinged

unless you wanna touch right side execute talents and no thanks i'd rather die

[nova marsh]

Yeah no that just feels awful

Just let colossus's practice strikes give Blord

[shadow ibex]

i wouldnt hate not seeing ravager for colossus since i think slamming same-ish set ups only BS/ravager choice node is bad

[nova marsh]

And make prot Blord a thing ig with shield slam resets

[shadow ibex]

prot has blord built in to the class

all abilities have a chance to reset slam p much

actually pretty sure all of them do

[nova marsh]

Ik Idk what the hell it'd do for prot

[shadow ibex]

revenge TC auto attacks and execute

just buff blord no point trying to make new ideas when old one is there

[nova marsh]

But like just putting any sort of MS reset into colossus would make it feel a lot better

[shadow ibex]

just under tuned

[nova marsh]

You could make Blord give free Mses in exe ig

But that's just adding more to it lol

[edgy solstice]

mortal comboooooooooooooooooooooooo

[nova marsh]

Yeah it'd be really nice

[edgy solstice]

even just in general

exhil blows is a dead boring talent

[nova marsh]

I mean I like exhil

I think the problem is Exhil just has to compete with battelord

Which just does the exact same thing basically but is wayyyyy better

Mortal combo would ALSO be boring

[edgy solstice]

it's not interactive but satisfying at least and doesn't fuck other talents like blord

[shadow ibex]

im enjoying slayer arms more than i thought i would

just an enhanced normal arms i guess. dmg is procs

bladestorm applies big dmg debuff

[cosmic shale]

the fuck

[grave mulch]

Thats 4 very happy casters thats for sure

[shadow ibex]

lmao

[tranquil tree]

is like Imminent Demise kinda inconsistent? yeah is good when you build the stacks before the pull in dungeons, but what about in raid? when i'm supposed to BS? right after the pull without the stacks or do i need to wait and build them and then BS? i feel like i'm losing so much damage without the stacks at the beginning 🥲

[shadow ibex]

dont wait for ID stacks

[rapid bronze]

TIL if you have spell reflect up when you walk into a pool on the last boss of city of threads, it spawns the add but doesnt root you

[lilac lava]

think they will ever taking sweeping strikes off GCD

god that would feel good

[minor gust]

that will be part of the 13.3 rework their cookin up

[nova marsh]

na wow will be 30 years old before arms is good

[balmy kindle]

It will be nice if mortal strike has some interaction with remaining rage

[nova marsh]

Yeah

I like that idea a lot, the death blow idea that's been floating around here

[balmy kindle]

Like fury has rampage as a rage dump, can't see why our mortal strike can't serve the same purpose

Arms right now has good numbers, but I would admit the playstyle is very dry

Don't even need to pay attention to rage

[strange perch]

whats the easiest dungeon this season?

[nova marsh]

I don't get the rampage comparison for a rage dump

Because fury's ONLY spender is rampage

[balmy kindle]

My bad, but I still stand by arms has very little interaction with excess rage

[shadow ibex]

execute takes care of excess rage very well

[nova marsh]

okay and?

What about ya know....the literal rest of the rotation

about 70% of the fight

Also fights like slyvie or iridkron that have no execute phase?

Also the last boss of dawnbreaker for TWW example

[shadow ibex]

i think execute rage feels p good and i'd rather have too much than too little until then because IP usage isnt punished

youre punished for munching opportunist OP

[nova marsh]

Truthfully I still think Slayer is unbelivably bland

but opportunist is one thing I really love about it

[shadow ibex]

if it werent for MS being punched out by tuning exe rotation would be as good as its ever been since we've had this DF BFA SL combination of arms

[shadow ibex]

i dont think these specific cases are an issue, and the boss reappears in raid at a low health so youre execute phase there should be longer

[edgy solstice]

arms will get outlaw'd into a samurai class before they take ss off the gcd

[shadow ibex]

he starts at whatever % he starts at but still has same health as any raid boss

so 35% to 0 is more health on him than 35% to 0 on another boss

[nova marsh]

I mean yeah but like I said....65-80% of the fight, potentionally more, is spent outside of exe

[shadow ibex]

i'll trade 1 boss in a dungeon to have a raid fight that has lengthier exe phase

like thats a trade ill take any expac every tier

[edgy solstice]

100%

[shadow ibex]

its a great thing

just have every boss be like taloc in uldir and start at 35%

[balmy kindle]

I personally DM the non execute phases cause with SD and our passives execute comes on really fast

[edgy solstice]

every spec that excels at some kind of niche combat should feel like they have a fight in a tier

[balmy kindle]

Feels very good when you slam that 2m crit

[nova marsh]

SD executes are the only reason slayer is fun lol

[wispy topaz]

593 arms, doing about 800k in m0 - what should I be at

[shadow ibex]

coolest thing about colossus is cosmetic size increase

[balmy kindle]

Mortal strikes hits harder on crits is the highlight for me on Colossus, but it's so insignificant compared to slayer

Also, crit full stacked demolish

[gusty oxide]

They tried that in legion, pumping rage into a single colossal MS, it was fun, but the damage profile was very weird

[balmy kindle]

Hard to tell since overall dps in m+ is very dependent on pull and comp

[balmy kindle]

Yes I know. Am the biggest hater of focused rage, but it was kinda fun when the mortal strike hit for like 5m

[gusty oxide]

I forgot the name of the spell that pumped 30 or 40 rage into a stacking buff, that you unleashed in MS

[balmy kindle]

Focused rage, or FR for short

[graceful tinsel]

is curio in norm champ track?

[boreal quartz]

Should be?

Drops at 606 when 610 is first boss hc

[shadow ibex]

Orator larynx or w/e trinket beating skarm shard for me

Figured by now dmg trinkets wouldn't win but it does fuck ngl

[boreal quartz]

I mena 600 ilvl isnt 640

Still some ways to go

[shadow ibex]

Dmg trinkets that crit

I only have on use ATM i figured shard and larynx would win but meathook + larynx

X2 on use there doesn't matter cuz neither cares about stats

[gusty oxide]

So many haste/mastery gear from bountiful delves, the game want me to switch to fury

[boreal quartz]

Ive gotten exclusively vers gear

Actually 16% vers or some shit now it's disgusting

[shadow ibex]

I got nice arms gear and very tempted to send it in raid

[minor gust]

Just play arms don't give in to fury pad in heroic

[shadow ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1114308309143519383/IMG_3926.gif

Too bad MS bad all the good arms gifs are tainted

[minor gust]

Revert the MS nerf you cowards

[shadow ibex]

They just don't know

[boreal quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1163158753743478854/catslam.gif

Gotchu

[shadow ibex]

Else woulda been hit in the tuning pass

Ngl I kinda like this pre 4pc execute

[minor gust]

its cursed

buff EP to 75% ty

[quick vale]

wowhead says one of our BIS weapons is the charged claymore. Does it have to be the claymore or are the other crafted 2H weapons equivalent? The halberd has a higher damage range and the same speed

[shadow ibex]

Weapon type doesn't matter

[quick vale]

so just charged whatever

[minor gust]

just pick w/e 2h looks cooler to you

[quick vale]

i'm specced into blacksmithing maces and axes so that's the one

[shadow ibex]

I just don't wanna track stuff

[minor gust]

Fair but still cursed like in S3

ignoring EP

[worldly kernel]

2% wipe on ovinax

rip

goodnight yall

[median scroll]

Last day @work before 3 week vacation

[thick kelp]

Need this but with execute

[atomic mountain]

i hate my life. since weekly reset i only managed to do 3 dungeons cause i only get randoms that even can not handle th first boss. also 3 dungeons and not a single part gear

[sharp ravine]

Lol every embellishment I was going to craft I looted pieces in heroic. Guess we're going boots for now

[steep osprey]

what's causing this?

[weak wave]

Why dont you do Delves? Much better and guaranteed loot than Mythic Dungeons and way easier.

[atomic mountain]

cause i suck in delves soloing i guess. only get killed everytime from ducking spiders XD

[weak wave]

There was a hotfix today reducing incoming dmg by alot.
Also you could just spec Prot for 10 min, rofl yourself through a Delve and Loot 600+ Gear

[atomic mountain]

does prot work with 2h? dont have a shield XD
and thx for info. What is for you the easyest delve to solo?

[weak wave]

Naah will need a shield.

Hard to say as the biggest challenge came from dealing with the casters which got heavily nerfed

[cold narwhal]

Did anyone try them after the Hotfix? I hear they are completly broken now

I seen screenshots of 12 mil auto attacks

[weak wave]

Yes. The one with the marionettes. Web casts only do 1 mio dmg on one Tank Player.

Didn't see anything broken

[atomic mountain]

well but there is saf a dungeon that is faster beside mobs no?

[weak wave]

Sure but I don't know all of them.
Also there are only 4 per day which grant big loot so you can only choose between those 4.

[atomic mountain]

and i never played prot XD is this easy to?

[atomic mountain]

i mean to push the lvl of delve. still at lvl5

[weak wave]

Yeah it's mit that hard

[weak wave]

Ahh

Take the one in the very south of Azj Kahet

[atomic mountain]

thx

[modest salmon]

Good morning fellow rage-enjoyer 🙂
Sim is telling me to use this combo, please don't tell me we use double active trinkets... any passive recommandation? Ara-Kara Sac or Dawnbreaker Stone?

[fathom shoal]

sac forsure

[modest salmon]

Also what about this idea to bake a cast into Mad Queen's Mandate? Any idea to fit it inside a channel like S1 box+bladestorm?

[fathom shoal]

in raid

[gusty oxide]

Sac for a passive one with yours definitly

[grand idol]

Im not totally sure what the mandate does offhand but the larynx is just fire and forget.

[edgy solstice]

you can just macro larynx into ms or whatev tho

[modest salmon]

Mandate is huge passive crit stat stick, nuclear strike nuke that hits for 3M+ (seen some 6-8M), 2Min CD with 60s discount off cd on a kill... buuuuuut with a 2s cast

[atomic mountain]

why does everyone hate 2 active trinkeds XD

play what the sim say or play what you personaly pref

[boreal quartz]

Sim for dam

Pref for pref

[severe thunder]

is it just me or do none of my damn cds line up

[boreal quartz]

They dont rlly

:3

[edgy solstice]

can't wait to read our nerfs tomorrow

[thick kelp]

buffs

smilege

[edgy solstice]

"Overwhelmed now only stacks up to 8(was 12)"

[thick kelp]

5% aura

[atomic mountain]

why should they? fury is in a better state of dps in my pov.

beside this i dont think arms is prety high in tier list

[edgy solstice]

Ehh maybe but how much of that is heroic padding

[gusty oxide]

We're bottom of the leading pack

kappa

[atomic mountain]

well i dont think that they touch abilitys that are shared between fury and arms.

[edgy solstice]

Arms is top 5 pure ST right now but we also have terrible tier set

[atomic mountain]

well it is not that bad

only if you are extremly unlucky in proccs

[edgy solstice]

They could, and honestly if they were to nerf warrior DPS. I think that'd be the best way. It hits fury burst aoe more than arms tho

I doubt any changes coming this weekend will be about aoe tho with m+ not even out yet

[gusty oxide]

The thing with Fury is they are stinky padding parsers

smug~1

[edgy solstice]

Ethical damage

[ebon garden]

guys globally actually for M+ you generally play whaty ? slayer ? Aoe / juggernauth ? Collossus ?

i want to love collossus but i go more and more to slayer

but collosus really slap hard if great packs in donjoeong

[edgy solstice]

It's closer in m+ but slayer still better

[ebon garden]

the pure aoe build for slayer ?

[edgy solstice]

Colossus fun af in keys tho

[gusty oxide]

I can't say because M+ aren't out yet

[ebon garden]

i mean m0 ofc

[gusty oxide]

Mobs die too fast for colossus loop to be really significant

[ebon garden]

i think jugger can slap if your tank is not to hard on pack size, but if big pull collossus hit hard, but you loose on boss

any idea on how to fix collossus ? put aside the fact that demolish is clunky

[gusty oxide]

The frontal cone is really punishing yeah, Other than that, it lacks ST damage

[edgy solstice]

Revert ms nerf

Tweak demolish

Reduced movement or wider cone, something

[gusty oxide]

The more crit we will have, the more colossus will be reliable, right now you're praying for a demolish crit

[ebon garden]

what whas the ms nerf ?

[atomic mountain]

i dont know what groups you have or un which server you play but every m0 i have done was like:
mobs dont die, boss dont die, your randoms have like 0 dmg with 600 GS

[gusty oxide]

EU? :d

[edgy solstice]

They nerfed MS by 12% iirc when tdubs was on ptr

[atomic mountain]

everything beside my premate group, that only plays like 2 times a week, i only have shit in dungeons.
NOONE knows how the mechs are and NOONE is able to deal dmg. i jiggl around my aoe and ST builds so i slightly get a chance of clearing the bosses

[plucky fern]

Well they are going to nerf slayer because of fury but noone will think about arms doing that so we get the nerf as well as usual

[atomic mountain]

nah

[plucky fern]

100% will happen

[sharp tendon]

They dont nerf slayer lol

[plucky fern]

same as unhinged nerf

[sharp tendon]

Warrior will drop allot when others have tier

Furry get lik 1-3 % dmg increase for full set

Like enh shaman sit on 13% increase in dmg

[atomic mountain]

jsut nerf Odyn's Fury and Rampage a bit and fury is even with arms

[sharp tendon]

It does not need to even

If u want more dmg play furry if u like arms play arms

[atomic mountain]

dont talk about schami. they are for sure overtuning him so more play him cuas we will get schaman tank

[atomic mountain]

if you want to get in hc raids you need dmg 🙂 i dont say more

[sharp tendon]

Dude ur talking shit they dont get a tank spec

[atomic mountain]

they will get. not in the next month but blizz also sayed ther will come more

[sharp tendon]

Oh so they will never inv balance druid to raids then

[atomic mountain]

did you played the 1st dungeons with npcs?

[sharp tendon]

Yeh so

They said 100899579 times already ther wont come a tank spec for shaman but u read something and u think alrdy they get it

[atomic mountain]

just wait for it.

and schaman is not warry btw 😄

[atomic mountain]

balance can also spec to heal if needed and they have other benefits. arms dont deliver more for the raid than fury

[slow saddle]

WTF happened to delves

[slow saddle]

fury will need a boost from tier

[raven ivy]

they scuffed it up after hotfix

wait a day and its probably fixed

[plush belfry]

What's up with them?

[sharp tendon]

Dont get why they fix delves now and not after the reset now players that did no delves yet will prob allot harder

[keen oxide]

bro saying to nerf another warrior spec is yikes

[plucky fern]

thinking fury doesnt need nerf is hard copium

[thick kelp]

Thinking like blizzard

King of padding pads on the hc week where adds die within 4globals

takes fury 3 globals to do 100mil

[gusty oxide]

Fury is only that high because nerub'ar is perfect for them

occasional add spawn, padding much

[scarlet geode]

Will arms rise when having tier set? kopium?

[gusty oxide]

No

[plucky fern]

arms is dead

[gusty oxide]

Worse even, many specs will overtake us

[plucky fern]

thats mostly why im mad at fury, its padding is just too good, i will feel like a clown playing arms in raid because i know i could be doing 100k more dps

[thick kelp]

its gonna fall off a cliff once people get tier and the adds live longer than 4 globals

[gusty oxide]

In my echo split yesterday i showed how arms could be good, tickling the 1m dps on ST bosses, and 1.1+ on others

We have one perfect boss for arms in this raid

[plucky fern]

court?

[gusty oxide]

Wasn't thinking of this one, but it works too

Rasha'an with a 35% exec build

[plucky fern]

isnt fury just going crazy on rash

[thick kelp]

Add fight

fury go crazy

[gusty oxide]

Full stacks juggernaut With sweeping strikes

YEP

[plucky fern]

fury will deal a million damage while your SS gcd is over

[keen oxide]

its week 1 with no tier fury gains MINIMAL

[gusty oxide]

2m execs X2

A million damage is nothing today

lul

[plucky fern]

well it was abstract number

[gusty oxide]

Keep your bladestorm during addspawns

[plucky fern]

lets say billion if that helps

[gusty oxide]

and you're gucci

[astral yarrow]

all but 2 specs have small gains from tier

[plucky fern]

true

its like what

ench shaman and dk or smth like that

[keen oxide]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vR2mvnqtoXNlUoL-WvrwYdXfzAVULMSx82oKrGCj4z6XhEabUl8EtqoFLnAD4q4bNUTgE8tVP0-oJ9W/pubhtml

[tardy hare]

They should just un nerf mortal strike

[gilded stump]

Don't do it then

[tardy hare]

Make arms execute not cringe

[atomic mountain]

I am not saying they should. S.o. sayed they will nerve just someting what hits hard for arms and then i sayed it is possible to nerve fury without effecting arms

[keen oxide]

tbh arms is cringe get 2 axes

2 better than 1

simple

[sharp tendon]

Seen even on warcraftlogs oh wtf is that furry dmg then u see bufs 5 pi zzz hate fucking pi remove it from the game that dudewith 5 pi dont even deserve to stand first. And then so proud of his dmg prob

[atomic mountain]

Furry?

when i aply rend.... and after that i get a dmg bonus. does this effekt the actual bleed too or does this tick without bonus?

[thick kelp]

Its dynamic so it affects the dmg bonus

[balmy kindle]

Fury damage is already mostly padding on mobs and this guy is calling for nerfs

[half junco]

the thing is the fight designs just suck for arms

while it fits fury and its cd alignments / burst aoe

[normal marsh]

Arms is very fun on Sikran, love a good patchwerk pleb

[narrow flax]

lots of ppl doing this

fury has good instant burst rn, and lots of people watching streams and stuff already screaming that fury needs nerf

but looing at boss damage they are not as op as it seems to be on the meters

damage to bosses

vs regular damage in raid figth

big difference

[atomic mountain]

dude i dont call anything. i just answered to a question and someone wanted to discuss

someone cried that arms get nurfed caus fury ist to strong. i only told then they could nerve fury ithout touching arms. i never sayed that somthing NEEDED to be nerved

[plush moon]

also fury gets like 1% dps from tier set obviously they are gonna be good early

so does outlaw

worst % increase off tier are the best rn for a reason

[wary steppe]

what do you think about cleave + fervor for silken court? i cant really decide the last 1-2 nodes to place for this fight for my playstyle

torment without cleave feels weird also

[astral yarrow]

you just spec long sweep and otherwise ST

[balmy kindle]

I play some fury from time to time, very fun when padding but when you need to do ST the spec can feel limp, but in any scenarios where there's alot of cleave involved fury is going to look like a god spec, more so when their tuning is pretty good now

[balmy kindle]

Sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way, just mentioning that fury is known to be a paddy spec

[slow saddle]

ye fury is gonna fall of a cliff

arms arent good unless the roar

[tardy hare]

Fury is within 1% of arms in single target, so if fury feels limp in single target and arms can’t pad like fury what’s that say about tuning?

[slow saddle]

arms needs to do 5% more st than fury

or fury should always be choice

[balmy kindle]

Sims don't reflect actual gameplay though since they are close, never lost to fury in dungeons even when they were close (589 here)

[slow saddle]

then they suck

or u play heavy cleave they play non AM

which is less valuable in m0 than m+

[gilded stump]

everyone says fury does too much damage
Check boss DPS
Check frost mage
Ice lance is like 70%of all their dmg

Fury is fine

[balmy kindle]

Not sure, never really seen good pug fury before

[gilded stump]

Arms needs help just make Colossus good

[balmy kindle]

But I think it's because fury damage is punished for dropping buttons so idk

[gilded stump]

If you drop enrage as fury once you might just hearthstone out of the raid

[slow saddle]

what ? u just press bt once and u gucci

[slow saddle]

mage in gen

our frost mage Pumps man

as other ppl say, fury just wins coz its normal // hc and shit dies so fast

[gilded stump]

Sometimes the Bloodthirst just ain't thirsting like it's supposed too

[slow saddle]

i mean then u rampage 2 globals after

if u loose enrage in Cds u are just a terrible player

like theres no other word forit ^_^

[gilded stump]

Not talking about CDs sometimes I'm very close to dropping it because I'm like 5 rage away from rampage

[slow saddle]

and thats a NON issue

its 1 global not enraged

thers no way that matters

[gilded stump]

I just feel anxious when it happens

[slow saddle]

ok so this is just a bad statement?

[gilded stump]

But then again I usually don't play fury but had to this season

[slow saddle]

i played arms

its a non issue

fury is just better

but arms is fine unless u top 100 guild

[gilded stump]

I just don't like how Slayer arms feels right now, it feels smoother on fury

[slow saddle]

dude

FOR REAL !

slayer is 100% made for fury

and collosus is made for arms

only they nerfed it so bad thats it horrid

[gilded stump]

Colossus just feels fucking Ass right now

[slow saddle]

100%

buff ms

[gilded stump]

You wait 45 second just to get dodged or parried

[slow saddle]

then it feels better

[gilded stump]

Or you stupid tank runs away

[slow saddle]

its mainly the ST dmg suck

and in Mythic raid u cant always be behind bosses

but mainly the dmg just isnt there for the work

i way more enjoy playing ravager with execute

[gilded stump]

I just want to mortal strike and execute

And bladestorm

[slow saddle]

in gen arms with ravager feels very good, but doesnt help when collosus is dog( thers no way im playing 2 different playstyle in m+ and raid)

then slayer is fine ?

Execute hits like a truck in slayer

[gilded stump]

Yeah it's fine

[slow saddle]

mortal strike is fucked coz of all the multiplier

s

[gilded stump]

But fury slayer is still better

And more fluid

[slow saddle]

its mainly that arms is clnky and slow

coz we have no haste

weirdly enough playing fury with powerfull enrage and 20 % haste felt better than playing arms at 20%

[magic dome]

Is there a way to Sim embellishments?

[sharp wyvern]

whats the current spell ID for mortal wounds?

there are like 11 different ones

[fossil rampart]

realistically that should be 20-25 seconds

should easily have max stack demolish pack to pack

[gilded stump]

Guess I'll never find out

[halcyon breach]

Gear compare or top gear, would recommend just using top gear

At the top of top gear you can add in items at whatever ilvl you want, then you can add the embellishments after

[magic dome]

Thank you!

[burnt lake]

Hey guys. would it be a dps loss to use skullspliter at full rage for faster bleed? i find myself capped on rage when it comes off CD and it doesnt feel right to press

[plucky fern]

rage doesnt really matter before execute

in execute - yes, spend rage first

[true sierra]

my stats are pretty ugly right now 578 ilvl %23 crit %10 haste %19 mastery %10 vers i should perform better when haste gets higher, right?

[balmy kindle]

Rough but at your status u should just go for higher ilevel, but yeah haste will probably sim more.

For some reason, mastery does absolutely fuck all

[true sierra]

i thought crit, haste, mastery/vers was the way to go

is it not?

[manic stirrup]

idk man crit sims like shit for me

not rlly sure why

[zenith warren]

most of my folks in guild will likely craft weapon so the strat is to grab mythic track weapon without competition and craft 2dusk ezpz

[manic river]

Interesting

[balmy kindle]

It changes as your stats goes

[shadow ibex]

Buff MS

[wanton sierra]

they whats the macro that would allow me press blade storm or ravager on my foot when talented w?

[drifting apex]

is there a big hotfixe today? (some people told me to wait friday to see witch craft do)

[abstract vale]

when arms buffs

[smoky kayak]

@player check #1237307732705415228

[boreal quartz]

Idtip addon

[boreal quartz]

Haste isnt what makes u play right

Stats dont matter that much

[wary dune]

Hmm my ST sim is legit just using mortal strike to refresh rend lol, in execute phase

Without tier

[boreal quartz]

Do you have EP talent

[wary dune]

In single target yes

Thats why im confused

[atomic mountain]

yes. your dmg output with stacking exe ist much higher as spammin MS

[wary dune]

I thought we only started semi doing that with tier

Even with double EP + MP ?

[boreal quartz]

Can u link sim

[wary dune]

Sure

[boreal quartz]

You might be looking at ravager window for colossus

[wary dune]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3gxxLMhKb7J9dYkwKXgAy4

Im in slayer, execute window comes around 3 minutes in the SIM

[boreal quartz]

Ill look

[wary dune]

My first season playing warrior, so not sure if im missing something obvious

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp did we break something

[boreal quartz]

I mean it's not obvious to me why itd do that

[shadow ibex]

It does it without 4pc yes p sure

Not biggest surprise as slayer ig

[thick kelp]

Without 4pc you only MS to refresh rend

Buff MS btw

[wary dune]

Ahhhh okay

I mean MS 4th highest damage, its lower than OP and Bladestorm

Kinda yikes

[boreal quartz]

New change ye?

[thick kelp]

ye

[shadow ibex]

Can we tell blizz

[thick kelp]

We wouldnt be here if Blizzard didnt panic nerf MS after seeing us on pre patch

[boreal quartz]

Stop doing this

[shadow ibex]

This shit is cursed

[boreal quartz]

[atomic mountain]

what dmg spell do you guys use to fill midfight if you have cds or no proccs? slam cleave ww?

[thick kelp]

Fishy currently doing his best to kill EP and SB in favor if 2/2 deft

[boreal quartz]

LMAOO

[boreal quartz]

Slam

[thick kelp]

Its only 1.2% behind

[boreal quartz]

I like how colossus got to drop sb

Make it cursed make it hurt

[limpid dirge]

how many targets before cleave>slam, mostly asking cause of Court fight, if at 2 targets i should be hitting cleave as filler over slam with it proccing spinny strike

[thick kelp]

2

on 2t and above jusg rotate op cleave ms tc

[boreal quartz]

Fun!

[minor gust]

Who's ready for Blizz to panic and nerf fury today!

[thick kelp]

They would(nt)

[steep osprey]

Yeah I'm ready to reroll

[limpid dirge]

fury seemed fine on like most fights except broodtwister

the 45 secs between add sets is just too perfect for them

[steep osprey]

Lets hope blizzard can figure that out

That a fight favors a spec

I'm not holding my breath

[manic stirrup]

lot of specs do really well on broodtwister

[steep osprey]

I bet Outlaw does well on Broodtwister

[boreal quartz]

That boss will be so funny to boost s

Spawn 500 morbillion adds

Permanent 400 target cleave

[minor gust]

Blizzard is known for not understanding why something is doing good and nerfing it even when in like a couple weeks and in mythic everything will balance out.

[boreal quartz]

I think it's ok to tune it a bit

Though i want an arms buff to ms

[minor gust]

We all want it but we all know they won't

[manic stirrup]

arms doesnt rlly need a power buff, an adjustment would make a lot more sense

[limpid dirge]

i thought arms was performing fine on the fights i run it

just goes against all my genetic memory for MS to be so low prio

still hit it a lot obv

jsut feels wrong not to hit it when its up

[minor gust]

Arms is fine numerically but MS being piss weak and ignoring EP in exe is fucking cursed

[boreal quartz]

It does

Just plays shit

[smoky kayak]

according to this report, you only used MS 4 times in Execute, and it was only to refresh Rend

[fresh spire]

Sharpen blades legit .3 from being gone

[fresh spire]

It's only really buffing execute

[smoky kayak]

so yeah it seems to be working as intended

[fresh spire]

Can confirm no tier you only ms to rend

[wary dune]

Yep! I was confused as to why it was doing that. I didn’t know MS was undertuned currently

[fresh spire]

Doesn't matter about ep/mp stacks

Legit dps loss to even send a ms with all 4 buffs up vs using it for rend

Cringe asf

Ms wouldn't be in this spot if they didn't randomly shoot ms 15%

[smoky kayak]

Imminent Demise is the only thing keeping EP alive lol

[fresh spire]

Probs would actually use it more often.

[wary dune]

Seeing 2 EP and 2 MP and not pressing MS actually feels so bad

[fresh spire]

Only thing ep is alive realistically is because of 100->35

Sd/opportunist overpowers hitting like trucks in comparison to wet noodle ms

Rebuff ms

Save colossus in process

[boreal quartz]

Colo is joever bro

Stealth removed

[fresh spire]

Make demolish always crit

Scale damage

It feels so garbage when it don't crit

[boreal quartz]

Have you tried tom

[fresh spire]

☠️

[shadow ibex]

Opportunist is insane

30% crit dam?

Lmao

[boreal quartz]

It's the most unhinged thing man

[shadow ibex]

Node under that is 30% op dmg

[left cargo]

Missed a lot, are we expecting tuning notes today? Figured it might be Monday

I’m still in between arms and fury :/

[boreal quartz]

I mean if ur a main war not a spec main u just play whatever is better per boss

And kinda just craft hast mast or some shit

[river ridge]

So fury...

[boreal quartz]

(yes..)

[minor gust]

Arms doesn't dislike mastery

[fresh spire]

All fury warriors just wish they was arms (loot spec)

[lilac fossil]

Are these imports working for you guys?

[nova marsh]

I distinively remeber the imports being larger then that

[smoky kayak]

what page are you looking at?

cause that looks very old, like pre-TWW old - none of the current pages look like that anymore

[light dirge]

I don't like skull splitter

[grave mulch]

why

[light dirge]

I think it's just learning curve strain

[grave mulch]

is it because you forget to rend?

[light dirge]

But I don't really know when to use it?

No in fact I rend too much I think

[grave mulch]

#9

[smoky kayak]

it looks low in priority because there are a lot of cooldowns in there, but in practice you hit it almost on cooldown; within a couple GCDs of it anyway

[light dirge]

Yeah the in practice part is getting me.

Haha

So just send it on CD

[smoky kayak]

practice does make perfect

[light dirge]

Would you guys recommend getting a rend WA? I feel like keeping that timer in my head is hurting me cuz I'm spamming rend too much

[smoky kayak]

yes, absolutely you should have a timer for rend on your screen somewhere

whether a WA, nameplate debuff, whatever is easy for you to see

[light dirge]

Sounds good. That will be helpful.

[smoky kayak]

hell mine has an audio alert when the duration gets low and I need to refresh

[light dirge]

Ooo I love that

[rocky dune]

nameplate debuffs for multi target rend 100%

[raw dagger]

how do u guys sim aoe fights?

[smoky kayak]

you're basically using Skullsplitter as a high grade filler

• refreshing Rend is ofc still more important
• cooldowns are still more important
• Mortal Strike is still more important
• Skullsplitter comes next, followed by all your Overpowers and Slams

[rocky dune]

but WA's with sound alerts are huge

[light dirge]

Thanks for this.

[boreal zealot]

is tehre any interaction with the covenant stuff that is effecting shadowlands mythic dungeons? I read some monks being gimped by it.

[smoky kayak]

not as far as I'm aware

[boreal zealot]

condemn stuff won't effect slayer talents right?

[smoky kayak]

no, Condemn is an entirely different spell that we no longer have access to

[vivid wave]

hope you are doing well Mr archi

[smoky kayak]

new day, new challenges 😤

[vivid wave]

Gotta use the biggest warrior brain to parry them all

[sharp tendon]

U can just make a wa urself easy with timer and sound when 2 sec left

[modern bane]

Colossus or slayer more fun?

[vocal gust]

Slayer has more spin. Col has a 100mil crit move.

[nova marsh]

Slayer does consistent damage

Col is a coin flip with bad st

Also slayer has executes that slap

Also my in game name is spintowind so ig slayer makes sense LOL

[glacial moat]

Slayer execute phase has arms back to "and this is to go even further beyond" mode

[strange sapphire]

Quick question about Larynx trinket, do I just send the on-use on cd? Or should I wait for stacks?

[modern bane]

100 mil crit sounds fun

[vocal gust]

I swapped from Col to slayer and found the damage to be far more consistent. I'd recommend that for now till Col gets some balance love.

[boreal quartz]

Col is dead

[shadow ibex]

30 colossus logs

[thick kelp]

31, i haev one private

[lilac fossil]

yyeah I think it was old. Found the talents a little below all of that in dps-faq

[torpid holly]

kinda nooby question, but do people usually use the same bind for rend and thunder, or keep them seperate?

[slow saddle]

ye slayer execute might be quite nice once fights are a bit longer 😄 Or u dont only lust on pull ;D

that being said remove juggernaut buff execute to the same as 15 stacks

then Suddendeath also slaps fist 65%

[cold narwhal]

if i have 2 stacks of overpower, and MS is ready and I get an Sudden Death proc, do I send execute or MS so it goes of CD faster

[next flame]

If slayer always execute

[cold narwhal]

so outside of my CDs Execute is always prio?

[next flame]

Hits way too hard to be ignored

[cold narwhal]

Do I even ignore MS in the execute phase sometimes MS is ready but i can still send 2-3 executes

[slow saddle]

well depends

do u have 4p ?

[cold narwhal]

no

[slow saddle]

its exe-op-exe-op-ms isnt it?

or we do we just exe until we dont have rage then OP

i presume the OP reset from tactitican is pr1

[cold narwhal]

Yes! thats the same question i have

[slow saddle]

so that way u execute until u have 2 op reset stacs then u ms ?

[cold narwhal]

i feel like i can execute 4-5 times in a row

[slow saddle]

with 2 of each

thats how ive been doing it

dno seems to do fine

MAKE MS great again blizzard ( also make Collosus Grreaat)

[fiery linden]

kinda pain that they nerf fury but it still hits arms lol

[slow saddle]

nerf fury?

[fiery linden]

for pvp reasons

sinnce fury is real good right now

[slow saddle]

how have they nerfed fury?

[fiery linden]

odyns and roar got hit

[slow saddle]

since when ?

isnt it a while ago

[fiery linden]

week or so ago

[slow saddle]

Odyn's Fury damage reduced by 20% in PvP combat.

ah ONLY pvp nerfs

who cares

fury still cracks in pvp

[fiery linden]

not the point

the point is fury is strong

arms is not in pvp

fury gets nerfed but that nerf hits arms as well

[slow saddle]

well the arms nerf doesnt rly matter

if we keep doing to little we might get that MS buff

[fiery linden]

make MS great again

i miss BIG MS damage

[slow saddle]

i miss BIG ms without 5 modifiers

[fiery linden]

yeah true

[slow saddle]

we have big ms

[fiery linden]

needing the stars to align

was kinda anoying at times

[slow saddle]

u just have to have 2 ep 2 op avatar Cs op

adn trinkets send

oh yeah AND THEN it needs to crit

^^

into a spear mby in pvp?

[shadow ibex]

Do we not MS with 4pc yet even

[fiery linden]

im not aying everyons MS should get a 205% MORE damage buff

im just saying mine should

[slow saddle]

we ms with 4p when we have 2 stacks of the thing

[slow saddle]

it should do like 10-15% more baseline dmg ye

[shadow ibex]

I'm asking walhe something else

[fiery linden]

i miss condemn (no i dont)

[shadow ibex]

The exe rotation is so silly

Stack all these damage buffs for MS and not cast it

Unlock your core ability with 4pc

[thick kelp]

You MS at 2 stacks of tier

[shadow ibex]

Yes but you can shove ms out

I believe in you

[thick kelp]

I mean

we cant

cuz rend

:xdd

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/magneto-xmen-gif-13119643

Get enough AM to BS is back up before rend expires

I believe in you

[manic stirrup]

fatality is kinda close to taking out ep before 4p

[shadow ibex]

Rend refresh only coming from unhinged

[manic stirrup]

lol

its like 2-3k dps off iirc

[shadow ibex]

That's the dream

[thick kelp]

I mean commander dks dont manual apply their dot

they wait for their free summon to apply it and let it drop

so who knows

maybe we become the same

[manic stirrup]

if rend was beans enough

[shadow ibex]

There you go

[manic stirrup]

could be viable

[shadow ibex]

Do it

https://tenor.com/view/muahaha-evil-laugh-evil-laugh-futurama-gif-4133163

[ripe igloo]

GUYS, do I craft 619 2h AXE or 619 2h Sword

[shadow ibex]

Poleaxe

Or maybe mace

[manic stirrup]

doesnt matter as long as it has strength

[lyric dragon]

I wouldn't use crests for a 619

If you're using crests wait til next week and max it

[thick kelp]

Next week raid qust to kill Queen for a free HC crest btw

[lyric dragon]

wouldn't you want to max the weapon ASAP, though?

Since it's better to max that then use the heroic on bracers or something else

[thick kelp]

Yeah but you dont have spark for bracers 🗂️

[fringe moon]

FYI, treacherous transmitter is the worst trinket for melee in raid, especially on Broodtwister. The soak circle and orb kept spawning inside the boss and because the boss has no feet, you couldn't even figure out where to stand to get your buff

[sharp tendon]

How are solo delvs 8 feels for warrior atm? Better go as prot? or group

[lyric dragon]

Nope, but I also have wasting crests early. I made the weapon already, I'd rather sit on the upgrade and hold for reset for bracers than send it on weapon then turn around in a week or two and upgrade the weapon

[native barn]

Solo Prot was fine for me this morning. Did a skip with pot though. On These 2 caster guys

[gusty oxide]

Haven't touched my Runed and Gilded crests yet

[fiery linden]

should i be pressing rend over t clapping in single target?

[fringe moon]

Yes

[vestal gyro]

fast question when we are on multi target in the normal rotation is better to use cleave with 2 overpower buff?

or go with sweeping strike mortal?

[fringe moon]

Id say sweeping MS

[vestal gyro]

when sweeping on cd?

use cleave ?

[shadow ibex]

yes

cleave is mega good atm

[neon niche]

depends
on merciless bone grinder window always cleave

[teal fossil]

im not sure if cleave>ms on 2t with sweeping up even with mbg

ill do some math

[shadow ibex]

with sweeping MS should win but we also just spam exe once available p much

on 2t i mean

[normal marsh]

does tier set make going back to exe-exe-ms in execute phase better than exe spam?

[shadow ibex]

no

it means you have to get x2 OP resets since our 4pc comes from tact procs

[normal marsh]

so still exe spam into fishing for 2 procs to then exe-exe-ms?

grim tier set

[swift crown]

rate my build

[quasi torrent]

i think this goes hard

[sacred zodiac]

i will play this

[quasi torrent]

do you have legs?

[swift crown]

This is Legs warrior

[daring flicker]

the balls build

[quasi torrent]

leg amputee warrior maybe

[dire hinge]

yo polly get me an Arms Warrior with nuthin' on it

[latent moss]

least cursed colossus build

[river lichen]

What is better to quest as for both questing duegeon and farming gear at 80 arms or fury

[dire hinge]

it doesn't matter, play one/both. Have fun with it 👍

[river lichen]

With one is easyer to play with in both raid and mythic 0 arms or fury

[shadow ibex]

the one u like most

[visual fern]

It do be bissin tho

If you el roboto

https://tenor.com/view/opinion-vibe-gif-24179784

[icy magnet]

The wowhead DPS charts, 4k vs 24k parses for fury, we are few :[

[astral yarrow]

raid very fury favored

lots of bosses with adds to burst

[normal marsh]

but we are stronk

[shadow ibex]

Handsome

[severe nymph]

arms or fury????????

[minor gust]

Prot???????????

[shadow ibex]

deadly calm

[latent moss]

always have been

[gusty nymph]

The selected few

[rocky dune]

I'ma be honest...I like exactly where Arms is sitting on that chart.

[wise cloud]

My sim is telling me to not press mortal strike pretty much ever in exectue phase, but just spam exe. Shouldn't i be consuming EP?

[teal fossil]

yeah EP is pretty bad right now

[wise cloud]

So i just MS to keep up wound from time to time

[thick kelp]

Arms
Bladestorm damage reduced by 10%.

NAAAAH

[tardy hare]

is colossus back?

[tropic eagle]

huge 1%

[minor gust]

Arms getting caught in the crossfire

gets BS nerfed

[tropic eagle]

Im playing colossus ravager bois log in

[astral talon]

collosus back?

[minor gust]

prob not

[frank fog]

Fury nerfed LUL I'll take a 10% BS nerf all day compared to that

[lethal acorn]

Colossus buffed, hell yeah!

[tropic eagle]

Honestly, Ive been cooking with colossus in M0s

[pine drum]

1% gain is still a gain

[tropic eagle]

will try it in M+ next weak

[edgy solstice]

at most puts them very close to even in keys

[tropic eagle]

if you get good setups it fucks hard

[tender glen]

love how our bis weapon changed from that crit/mastery hammer to the pickaxe

vers is always the way, except when its not

[tropic eagle]

vers crit demolish with good setup

[regal birch]

i mean arms st superior anyway already

[tropic eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/blowing-up-killed-the-toliet-explode-gif-16139362

[regal birch]

lets see how colossus buffs work out

[tender glen]

[fringe moon]

slayer still better....

[tender glen]

but big red button ungabunga mode

[lilac lava]

they buffed the wrong part of demolish

[frank fog]

@regal birch Amen brother

[minor gust]

They will be closer in keys but for raid Slayer will still be much better

[tropic eagle]

They also need to make demolish just castable isntead of fixing to a target

[regal birch]

yes brother

[tropic eagle]

if it teleports or moves you are just fucked

[lilac lava]

Make it not a planted channel that someone can take a centimeter step out of and cancel the ability

[tropic eagle]

Yeah

[edgy solstice]

no reason demolish's frontal shouldn't be massive

[regal birch]

i mean whats the problem with slayer being better demolish/colossus plays like shit anyway

was happy that i didnt have to use fyrakk bs legendary then this herotalent came which is basically that in worse

[lilac lava]

Make demolish like Cata slam, able to cast while moving

[river ridge]

That plus a range buff would be perfect

[edgy solstice]

make it an empowered spell at that point

[tender glen]

just use whatever coding they used for ww monks' fists of fury

[regal birch]

anything but that bs we have right now

big pile of garbage

[river ridge]

Honestly the cast time is a form of skill expression I don't think should be removed. Maybe reworked into an empowered spell down the line, but not removed imo

[gusty oxide]

BS nerf is not that big of a deal for us

[faint cave]

Is it normal that im running out of rage to use mortal strike during execution phase in mythic dung bosses even after 1 overpower addition. (Using m+ build from faq channel)

[cobalt sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

granted but now warrior has bugs up the wazoo like monk

:^)

[tender glen]

LOL

but you know, there's some really weird targetting issues with cleave

stuff that should be in my front that just doesn't get hit

and it seems to be fairly often

[summer heath]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-for-mythic-week-boomkin-buffed-dps-warrior-nerfed-346658?utm_source=discord-webhook

RIP Arms

[frank fog]

??

10% BS nerf big whoop

[sand summit]

Thoughts on nerfs for warrior guys?

[cobalt sinew]

i don't have any

[gusty oxide]

BS nerf is not that big of a deal

BDFrE_Shrug

Colossus buff will need a bit of calculation

Won't catch up slayer on pure ST, most likely

[frank fog]

Bladestorm is 10% weaker... thats it... Glad Blizz used logic and nerfed Fury without gutting Arms in the process. Will hardly notice the nerf as Arms. According to the WoWHead week 1 rankings were 5th overall... so what we will still be 5th still or slightly down to 6th... who gives a shit. We play Arms because we want to considering Arms has 5000 parses and fury has 25000.

[cloud gyro]

💪 read fury chat

[lethal acorn]

Nah, I play Colossus, so this is a buff for me!

[weary hull]

https://tenor.com/view/ratha-gif-26742750

arms stonks

[cloud gyro]

now fury rerollers are gonna sandbag arms parses to make us look weaker

its really a buff in the end

[regal birch]

i mean as you said win win

[cyan silo]

Just spent 2 hours on pugging heroic Ky'veza, still didnt kill
fumin

[tender glen]

Honestly this feels way too early for class hotfixes though - raid hasn't been out a week, too much a disparity in gear still. I wish they'd give it atleast a 2-3 week grace period so that the general gear levels for active players stabilize a bit.

[gusty oxide]

it's always like that

They will rebuff fury later because their tier set is even worse than ours

kek

[tender glen]

Yeah the tier bonuses are just DULL this time around

[crimson furnace]

Is bladestorm during execute phase worth to use?

[gusty oxide]

Probably won't be anymore

Just to refresh the debuff

[dusk geyser]

there's always been a class tuning before mythic opens and also they said the first tier sets of the expansion wont be something super spectacular

they focus on hero talents mostly

[severe nymph]

what site has theb est talent builds for arms/fury? wowhead?

[frank fog]

@cloud gyro I'd say I welcome the fury ungabunga players to Arms but thats the exact reason I don't like fury. Ungabunga seems to have taken over warrior in general... wish there was more to separate the 2 dps specs like other classes with multiple dps specs.

[lilac gust]

me smash

[frank fog]

@lilac gust Yes you do! 👍

@lilac gust The nosepicking Luffy adds a nice touch to that statement on your discord profile LOL

[fresh tide]

wtf why couldn't they have buffed the big demolish hit

[clever bolt]

Hello arms brothers retired fury warrior here to raid and parse big

As long as demolish is still shit I hate that shit

[fresh spire]

Fury not even dead

[cobalt sinew]

theyre playing up the nerfs to scare the fotm rerollers away

[frank fog]

Slayer is prob still better or they are situationally equal would be my guess. @clever bolt

[torpid pier]

Is the Arms dream coming to life?

[fresh spire]

Anyone who thinks it is a dumbass

[cobalt sinew]

delightfully devilish

[quartz canopy]

Collossus might edge ahead on M+ now with nerf to Bladestorm, but I don't think the difference will be that big

[lilac gust]

KEK

[frank fog]

https://imgur.com/Vg99q4k

Clearly we play Arms because we want to.

[clever bolt]

I mean arms already was better for boss damage now it's ahead a few more %

[trail atlas]

yo is arms dead too? im a fury refugee looking for a new home

[tropic eagle]

I just love the colossus build I cooked up for dungs so Ill play that

[misty bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-leave-gif-5785321051025239919

[tropic eagle]

had some insane setups at times and competed with slayer overall

[devout pewter]

We doomin or boomin today here?

[misty bridge]

how is it ahead a few more%?

[trail atlas]

:kekW:

[unborn wraith]

Arms got nerf lol wtf

[frank fog]

@trail atlas All Arms got was a 10% Bladestorm nerf and a buff to Demolish

Wont even notice the change tbh

[trail atlas]

word i was just joking either way tbh im at work and bored and just kinda riding the over reactions from the fury channel

[severe nymph]

arms > fury for ST?

i sim higher arms

[torpid pier]

Regular Arms enjoyer here. Hope it’s better than fury.

[gusty oxide]

Very slight nerf

[cloud gyro]

always has been blud

[gusty oxide]

BS wasn't that important for us

And Colossus was the pick for M+ anyway

[frank fog]

@trail atlas I play Arms bc I want to. Remember, #1 dps spec with average skill = mid dps spec with high skill. Flex on em with your skill not your class buffs/flavor

[cloud gyro]

when mobs live more than 15 seconds

colossus m+ is gonna pop off

[gusty oxide]

Colossus gained a woping 1% damage flat

[limber river]

Is that true? That’s exciting news for me

[unborn wraith]

I wanted to give fury a try this morning … well imma stick to arms iguesd

[tacit cedar]

So will colossus arms be the go to you think?

[tropic eagle]

Slayer most likely ahead still especially in raid

M+ with good setups and management is gonna be competitive imo

[gusty oxide]

For M+ definitly