Yeah I dont like that maxroll skips Fast Footwork/Bounding Stride/Frothing Berserker in the M+ guide 🤔
(it takes Intimidating/2pt Overwhelming Rage) instead.
#arms
eager copper
dire hinge
those are pretty flexible points, it wont make or break you taking one or the other
eternal vortex
Rip MS and OP
frigid lava
No more smashing 1.3M+ MS 😦
thorn tulip
so cleave fully instead of ms and ss in aoe? 
old urchin
If it’s more than two yeah.
manic stirrup
Yeah I dont like that maxroll skips Fast Footwork/Bounding Stride/Frothing Berse...
thats completely fine to do
all of those points dont really matter
having a higher rage cap means less overcap, though i personally only take 1 point so i can have bounding stride
smoky kayak
Yeah, a lot of it really comes down to preference
- Frothing is technically DPS, though it's very minor
- Overwhelming isn't usually needed as Arms, but can occasionally save you some rage
- Bounding/Fast Footwork always feel nice to have, though how strictly useful they are can vary
- Int Shout is another pseudo-interrupt, but I find that low CD Shockwave + Storm Bolt is more than enough
minor gust
Maxroll guide was made by Revves the legend himself
gaunt owl
Frothing is such a joke 
muted plaza
So after todays arms nerfs, is fury going to overtake it for raid?
purely looking at prepatch rn
silk spade
So after todays arms nerfs, is fury going to overtake it for raid?
probably
minor gust
It's prepatch not like it matters play what you want
wanton sierra
man im quite likin the arms colossus, i know 2 sec on hold is dangerous and quite hard to master... do u think it shall be viable or im crazy and i shall proceed with slayer?
i mean on m+ scenario
smoky kayak
it's perfectly viable; the channel is hasted so it's pretty fast in practice, and you can still use defenses or leap out of it in an emergency
wanton sierra
ye... probably more dificult on push keys... when anything is lethal / deadly
its like an dance, if you step wrong you dead xD
ivory quartz
if you never had issues with the leggo in push keys then you'll have less with the channel
wanton sierra
if you never had issues with the leggo in push keys then you'll have less with t...
nice to read.. its the same idea heheh channel for damdam
oh now i get it sorry, i didnt played 4th season df... never had thhe leggo
i was on classic era xD im commin back to retail now... 490ilvl
gaunt owl
Let me introduce you to my friend parry
ready to get parried like a bozo because boss turned or you arent right on the back
swear to god sometimes they parry from the side even
ivory quartz
sometimes i dream about patch notes that remove the target requirement and the root and then i wake up
wanton sierra
ye target requirement is bad.. should be like AA or frontal cleave cone
hope its strong! i loved the 5%size increase talent ^^
dire hinge
servers are back up for NA 👍
dry frost
Whats our overall loss with the MS + OP Nerfs?
smoky kayak
it was actually already present in sims, since it was a beta change and there's only one branch atm
noble oxide
is ravager bugged for anyone else? I throw it out and it just dissapears and does no damage
smoky kayak
wouldn't be surprised if a lot of shit is bugged tbh, but I haven't had a chance to check yet
uncut pasture
did dreadnaught get nerfed too with the OP nerf?
smoky kayak
yes
rocky dune
Guessing our output pre hero talents feeling rought after the tune up of the last few weeks.
smoky kayak
Arms has been really strong throughout pre-patch
but this tuning was largely for L80, pre-patch is practically over at this point
toxic hull
ravager is a cosmetic spell now, just enjoy the 0.1s of beauty
rocky dune
yea my ravager disappearing too but i think the output still there
dry frost
I mean just dont run rav lol
fair lintel
unhinged seems to be working but I dont see any damage from ravager itself
rocky dune
but this tuning was largely for L80, pre-patch is practically over at this point
for sure we were super tuned....I just hope Arms to competent mid pack...and fury isn't so far ahead my guild is like "But why mista?"
zealous pivot
rip ravager
dreamy egret
thats a very nice glitch wonder how long we will have to deal with it.
toxic hull
season 2
zealous pivot
idk but rip i guess i raid fury
im not bladestorming in raid 😠
oh fuck it doesnt matter
fml
dreamy egret
im going to really miss this
not paying for repairs the entire expansion almost was amazing
didnt seem like it hit us too hard
kind geyser
how hard does fatality usually hit for you folks
woven wasp
that means nothing its damage is directly proportional to how long it took you to proc it
and since you dont play ToM anymore the only that can actually change how much damage it deals are pots or ebon might
and just now im realising you dont play fatality any more at all when i went to check my logs 
dreamy egret
I mean meh it isnt 700k anymore but its still something
the item upgraders are broken?
maybe it was just elvui causing glitches
smoky kayak
and just now im realising you dont play fatality any more at all when i went to ...
well, we might this week while Ravager is broken 
but yeah, Fatality is down bad because it doesn't benefit from the (currently huge) spec scaling aura or mastery
so that's like 60-70% damage its missing right off the bat
vast helm
can they at least fix the Glyph of TC for Arms and Fury?
clever parcel
i left evoker for this muahahaha
ivory quartz
well, we might this week while Ravager is broken <:DogeLaugh:359830401369243649>
is this the shmove
smoky kayak
not really much else to take
though if they don't update some addons pretty quick, my move is just gonna be to sit
mild dagger
I haven’t been keeping up with anything, but did our rage generation take a hit or did my week off just tint my memory with rose colored glasses
dire hinge
I haven’t been keeping up with anything, but did our rage generation take a hit ...
Yes, there was a number of changes which resulted in lower Rage Generation with prepatch recently. Most notably, within Execute it's quite easy to run out of resources now.
livid cloak
smoky kayak
Yeah they fixed it a few mins ago; I just mentioned it in #updates-midnight
real vault
🫡
spark epoch
Why they make it so charge goes on cooldown until you land when you leap
This needs to be fixed
dull karma
hey sorry to ask this, but whats the rotation for opener on single target? Rend, Mortal, TR, Skull, CS+Avatar, Ravager?
also, is it normal for ravager to be doing this
at 528 ilvl
i dont remember it being so week
?
agile crown
any1 miss being venthyr and having condemn ?
fathom shoal
any1 miss being venthyr and having condemn ?
lol a keeblio, then a keeb
haha
oh its doug now
@opaque hinge why did you delete your comment lol
agile crown
venthjyr was vampires actually not demon lol
fathom shoal
🤔
grave mulch
minor gust
Demon Vampires
latent moss
denathrius turbo based fight
dire hinge
Ah I had it backwards, the dreadlords were created by the vampires
silk spade
denathrius turbo based fight
slash them, slice them, vivisect them
uncut pasture
You will crawl to me on your knees.
latent moss
thats what colossus is telling me
i have to Demolish is a 2 second channel, and the Warrior is unable to move or use other abilities while channeling, similar to Eye Beam. A Colossus player will have to think tactically about when and where is optimal to use it. This is an intentional part of the flavor of the ability.
tacit cedar
did they do something to arms rage generation between last week and this one? it feels awful today
teal fossil
No it’s been awful since prepatch
teal fossil
i dont remember it being so week
Rav isn’t designed to be too strong
You have to consider the interaction with unhinged
tacit cedar
No it’s been awful since prepatch
it felt basically the same as before but today im sitting waiting for Aa's so it seemed different
tacit cedar
maybe, i was sitting at about 44% unbuffed though
latent moss
waiting for aas in execute or
tacit cedar
just in general, maybe i was slamming too hard but i was just getting blasted by a fury warrior in St and AOE when last week it wasnt even close. i know we got nerfed and they didnt but still
latent moss
i guess yeah
rage starving can happen
when u are unlucky with tactician
u can always charge weave 
latent moss
spending rage has a chance to refund a charge of overpower
tacit cedar
i know i know, im saying it almost never resets for me
tacit cedar
maybe i just was screwing myself because i was using exhil blows and not SS in m+?
idk
it felt weird
sks*
latent moss
exhil blows feels good but its giga mid
sks helps for sure
and exhil blows
drains ur rage bar
very fast
with back to back ms procs
tacit cedar
ill give that a try. i was trying the prio damage build
latent moss
idk if its possible to get more prio than this
this is a tww build tho idk how it plays without colossus
i played exhil blows
instead of massacre
cause i enjoy exhil blows
and its prepatch no one cares
but massacre is massive
you can drop massacre/sks for bonegrinder
if u dislike sks playstyle but i recommend getting used to it
with uproar its stupid how strong it is
tacit cedar
i like sks for raiding, i havent used it in M+ yet
so it should be an weasily include
latent moss
yeah it just kinda
bloats ur opener a lot
cause u play blunt insturments so u need SS for both CS adn SKS
a lot of setup
for nothing
but its still the most optimal
manic stirrup
massacre is bad
pick bonegrinder over it always
other than that thats a great build and what i use on live as well
latent moss
i cba finding it rn u can sim it but massacre is a massive increase on st/prio
dire hinge
hey sorry to ask this, but whats the rotation for opener on single target? Rend,...
sorry this got missed. The current opener is static, but kinda long:
Charge -> Fyralath -> Rend -> Roar -> Ravager -> Avatar+CS+Pot/Trinket/Racials -> MS -> SkS -> [drop into rotation]
latent moss
while being a small loss on aoe
but this was pre nerfs
maybe something changed
and as colossus
as colossus
5t vs st
latent moss
most random nerf ever
it just cursed us
with only pressing ms with 2 tierset
stacks
magic canopy
its for with hero talents so it doesnt really matter rn
latent moss
its giga cursed
magic canopy
but its pretty sizable atm
dire hinge
now we'll only do the damage of 1.5 outlaw rogues instead of 2 
latent moss
u get around 3 cleaves in mbg
3-4
massacre doesnt really have any real value its just mbg being weak
and being useless on st
apart from maybe collateral if there is some cleaving and u get to stack it
latent moss
yeah but
when this happens on 35%
cant compete
when u stack colossal might in 7 globals
massacre is weak in aoe i agree
but its so strong on st
latent moss
i mean for a single point it aint bad but it aint good either i agree
u dont get to really press exe
no critical thinking
it eats ur rage bar
it sucks
cause their solution for fixing our rage in execute
manic stirrup
i just wasnt thinking about beta and how it works with colossus bc i dont have it
latent moss
is to increase execute rage refund and gatekeep it behind 2 points
if anything colossus wants more cleaving than not but idk i didnt sim prepatch
me when no juggernaut execute
peak gameplay i must say
minor gust
sinful kraken
Man I was considering switching to arms for the first time but seeing all this opened my eyes to how shit this looks
wicked aurora
Imagine
If they made execute hit really hard
And gave us SL rage economy
Sheeeeeeesh
tacit cedar
unless im doing something terribly wrong, why is overpower like 7th on damage in the breakdowns now
latent moss
https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfec...
basically if they gave us
sl arms
9.1 best post legion iteration
tacit cedar
yeah 20% kinda hurts
wicked aurora
Call me weird but I enjoyed having to manage rage
tacit cedar
i just think its weird to see overpower below rend dot damage on St bosses when i OP 40 times and apply rent 8
rend*
latent moss
Call me weird but I enjoyed having to manage rage
same
thats the entire point of the spec imo
dire hinge
unless im doing something terribly wrong, why is overpower like 7th on damage in...
in single target, Overpower should be roughly equal to DW/Ravager/Roar (pretty close, at least, it shouldn't be wildly below them)
minor gust
im fine with managing rage as long as I have buttons to press
im im standing afk waiting then its gg
manic stirrup
if charge wasnt super aids on certain enemies id be fine with it
but its so hard to not lose auto attacks and charge weave sometimes
bc hitboxes
nova marsh
Considering the mental gymnastics charge does on it's own...
I really don't went to charge weave
minor gust
Any 90 degree angle charge enjoyers
minor gust
good times
manic stirrup
temple of thr jade serpent bricked s1
almost perfect class balance but had cos sbg and temple
like come on man
and thundering lol
fuck man that season couldve been so good
early s2 was really good too
outer holly
90 degree angle? charge kept attempting to mimic a sound wave in s3
nova marsh
Dude thatt shit literally pulled the second pack of the last few pulls between sha
That crap was SO bad
minor gust
I kept getting a funny charge bug on Fyrakk prog where I would charge right as he lands from intermission and I would shoot 20 yrds past him and almost off the platform
dire hinge
i had one in Neltharus on the blacksmith boss that ran me out to the edge and pulled the pat and back in to the boss 😐
fire trail and everything
minor gust
🙂
nova marsh
Look
Charge going halfway across the universe away from your target is just part of the class fantasy 
na that shit don't even go halfway across the universe
Charge literally Task manager ends wow, pulls up any other game on your comp, and then relaunches wow at your current target
modest marlin
signet brand isn't that great for random dungeons and levelling right?
swift flame
If you can chain pull so that it never resets its goatered
Otherwise just use one of the stat sticks
In practise i imagine everything dying too fast for it to matter tho
modest marlin
grieftorch is always useful too, but I bought that first
rare kite
grieftorch is always useful too, but I bought that first
grieftorch pretty meh for warrior
raw kayak
woo, got the totem weapon appearance finally.
grats kyle ^^
modest marlin
cross server guilds is finally letting me go back to some of my old horde chars
a tauren warrior using a totem is just good
raw kayak
a tauren warrior using a totem is just good
hope u got the trading post totems to wear on ur back too XD
modest marlin
those ones weren't as cool
brisk frost
Do people play Colossus or Slayer in beta m+ runs?
dire hinge
it's beta so folks play both to test things.
Performance wise, Slayer is doing a bit better in all content atm.
glad mango
are the sims updated with todays nerfs? Might be the odd question but not sure if raidbots sim apis are taking this into account.
with the nerfs to MS and OP wouldnt fury be closer in ST (even without the S3 Tier set )
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jAjKCe2mM8dsqKo8YFS5cW
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bown8Rmcha5rTvW4riDt9r
i just ran them
swift crown
are the sims updated with todays nerfs? Might be the odd question but not sure i...
If you want up-to-date sims you have to run with an up-to-date build, you are running weekly, running Latest will give you the correct result
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3GNxXshaQiWDAoNqezc68Y
for a bit of context the way simc works is it pulls spell data from files and determines the amount of damage a spell should do for example by directly referencing that data. As long as a nerf is indicated in spell data it's automatically applied to raidbots, as any change in spell data triggers a rebuild of the simc build for raidbots. Of course this only works for builds after the spell data changes. The Weekly build from monday obviously didn't have them yet as the spell data change wasn't applied to live servers.
halcyon breach
@swift crown balls
swift crown
@halcyon breach big balls
midnight mural
Is this rly with the nerfs ? I did latest build
Not smort enough to figure it out myself
granite spindle
Sorry if this is a stupid question but shouldn't we cast Thunderous Roar after Colossus Smash so the initial hit benefits from the 30% damage increase?
Just cause the Wowhead guide has Thunderous Roar ahead of Smash on the prio
swift crown
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7tQPB3JAWxUcthQzChX96J
build time is the same so it should be in
midnight mural
Dang.. arm still fuck good lol
My last fury dim didnt even break 500k.. not turbo optimized but like, its still quite far off.
swift crown
Yea the OP nerf at least definitely seems to be present in spell data (AP coefficient 1.54->1.23)
thick kelp
Sorry if this is a stupid question but shouldn't we cast Thunderous Roar after C...
Initial damage of Troar is bad so its not worth it to use a global for it inside your CS window
granite spindle
ah ty
echo isle
dumb question, i am following the wow head rotation(s) for arms and wanted to know why Mortal Strikes comes before Overpower, when you can get more damage output if you use Overpower (increases damage of your next mortal strike) before Mortal Strikes. Is it because you get somehow more dps with that rotation from wow head ?
thick kelp
In a ingame situation you will be going 3 globals between each MS which means that you will naturally get 1 or 2 OP buffs on it before the nxt one
and it deals the most damage out of our rotational abilites so pushing it as often as possible outside of execute is the goal of the spec
tropic umbra
Yeah, overpower stacks are nice, but mortal strike slaps, so you always hit it when you can
frigid lava
I'm getting a crap ton of error messages 😦
magic canopy
with the OP and MS nerfs in arms feels way eaker then it did last week without hero talents
thats for sure
opal wind
Well, pve nerfs are obvious this week. Supposedly we got some pvp damage back though I'm yet to test it this evening
9 days till tww early access, no point in getting angry about the nerfs anymore
tropic umbra
Getting to the point where it just is what it is.
echo isle
@thick kelp@tropic umbra thanks !
tropic umbra
Np
zenith hamlet
damage wise. is arms as strong as fury in keys?
frigid lava
Our main skill just got 15% nerf
fresh spire
Purple Dan very powerful
Overlord
fresh spire
Well, pve nerfs are obvious this week. Supposedly we got some pvp damage back th...
Tbf numbers are pretty good overall vs the average. Just there are some outliers still ahead of most classes but we also have thane that's just 30% behind other classes om average
magic canopy
the fish with glasses is back 🫢
fresh spire
Hc/mythic week tuning should hopefully bring us up if we need buffs. Though thane actually just needs help for St at this point
fresh spire
Thane scary
Intervene from thane has the same bs power as anti magic shell
Time to be a chad and babysit your shamans in raid
magic canopy
i feel like thane is going to get crazy sneak buffs, but it might also fall into the fury pitfall
where ST is aoe
and it just stays kinda mid on both
fresh spire
They need to buff the hero trees monstrously sorta like they did for slayer so it doesn't buff slayer as a trade off
magic canopy
prot could also use some juice
magic canopy
yeah its really rough even when i was testing it
fresh spire
Prot warriors gonna catch up on St at this rate
magic canopy
it also has a uniquely weird issue where you press CDs and half your fucking bars light up
the spec just feels akward
fresh spire
Ra moment
halcyon breach
https://tenor.com/view/scares-me-i-fear-no-man-gif-21507033
Have you cleared m4s Mad Oxman
light acorn
What's the best tinket setup for m+ where no one is running WII or OCE?
light acorn
Is icon worth it if just the healer is wearing it in a dungeon group?
thick kelp
Yes
bright whale
Hey i am thinking of starting up an Arms Warrior (i was also looking into 2h Frost DK) but idk which will have easier time progressing to end game for TWW PvE ?
thick kelp
Depends what end game is for you
bright whale
Like doing open world/pve contents and trying to raid and m+ but as casual
thick kelp
Then whichever one is more fun for you
Level up both to 80, try them out and decide on that
bright whale
idk i rather focus on 1 though not fan of alts
thick kelp
Try them both on beta then, if you have access
you can level up or go straight to dungeons
from what I have heard about FDK they seem to be leaning heavily into DW even for oblit builds
But their hero talents are miles ahead of warriors in terms fun and theme IMO
bright whale
Try them both on beta then, if you have access
Dont have access to beta or the game atm
thick kelp
Go look at some youtube or streams of those specs then but keep in mind most if not all FDK gameplay will be DW and not 2H
south merlin
I started a survival hunter as alt.
It is really fun to play.
- It is melee
- It has alot of abilities that helps u dodge/move out of shit in raids or M+
- Quite good dps also
- Has some range which is not found in warriors
bright whale
I'm also deaf so asking stream wont help 😭
thick kelp
Well you can just watch them for the gameplay and there is like 90000 "What is best/most fun" hero spec yt vids to look at that might possibly have some subtitles
bright whale
idk i been trying to decide past 3 days and hard even i have carpal tunnel syndrome if i didnt i would gone fury
untold trench
If you are thinking about that, you might concider going a caster
thick kelp
Well frost and arms arent exactly the best specs to play with carpal tunnel
A caster would be much healthier for that
bright whale
I played casters last 3 expansion and ended up not liking them even quitted Dev Evoker
untold trench
Fair, but ye - most melee got the same APM load. Some exceptions being things that press a lot of off GCDs, aka tanks.
Slowest, well, more forgiving to play with lower APM, would prob be UDK?
thick kelp
I wouldnt call even UDK slow
untold trench
Yeah, why I used the word forgiving
thick kelp
Maybe assa rogue since they have to pool their energy etc
untold trench
True, locked GCD at 1 too
thick kelp
even ww isnt that slow anymore since they get haste scaling now
untold trench
Rogue get haste scaled GCD now? Never knew
glass sphinx
is fury better than arms in live ?
untold trench
Yes and no, depends - Fury is more fun tho 
bright whale
I seen slayer fury is super strong
But idk cause atm dont have TWW or a sub yet (getting paid this weekend)
Sorry
storm prism
I started a survival hunter as alt.
It is really fun to play.
1. It is melee
2...
Don't get used to the extra range. Every melee spec is losing bonus range in TWW.
Definitely gonna be a caster season. Loads of mechanics that force you off of bosses/packs.
bright whale
Definitely gonna be a caster season. Loads of mechanics that force you off of bo...
So Dev Evoker be easier/safest to play then or desto warlock ?
storm prism
So Dev Evoker be easier/safest to play then or desto warlock ?
In my opinion casters are always easier to play. Can't be forced off of a boss if you can hit them from 40 yards out. Don't get me wrong though melee will be viable and most look strong. It's just gonna be rough dealing with some of these dungeons.
And if you're playing evoker play an Aug. Even with the util nerfs they're pretty much mandatory in higher end content.
bright whale
And if you're playing evoker play an Aug. Even with the util nerfs they're prett...
Really Aug Evoker ?
storm prism
Yes. They are extremely strong.
manic stirrup
they arent asking about high end content
storm prism
Okay but even in mid tier keys and heroic raid augs are strong
manic stirrup
also you cannot possibly know if aug will be strong next season
manic stirrup
Okay but even in mid tier keys and heroic raid augs are strong
no they fucking suck with bad players
thick kelp
If u arent playing mythic raid top10 WR picking aug is bait
Your co players wont be good enough for you to get aug damage out
storm prism
Yeah that's true
manic stirrup
i agree that aug will almost certainly be strong for a group of players with hands
but most ppl lack hands
storm prism
Sometimes I forget that everyone isn't pushing IO
But if you plan to push for CE then Aug is definitely a good option
And if your guild isn't composed of shit cans they're good in heroic raid as well.
manic stirrup
thick kelp
If u arent in liquid, echo or method most likely oyur guild is composed of shit cans
Cuz I know im a shit can
every raid for atlest 3 members on every boss?
storm prism
I consider anything over an 80 good tbh
Myself and a few others consistently parse in the mid 90s
storm prism
Sorry but you don't have to a top parser to be good
If someone is better than 80% of the people that play their spec then yes I consider them good
thick kelp
optimist mindset
manic stirrup
a lot of bosses parses are just complete degenerate pad as well
thick kelp
what about pink or orange
hazy flower
😦
thick kelp
nvm my diurna parse from fated is safe
storm prism
I'm just looking at this from a realistic average player standpoint. We don't push world first so I don't need 8 people parsing in top 10 to clear.
thick kelp
Yeah forsure
Purple parse shld be good enough for majority guilds considering applicants
wanton sierra
hyped to try the colossus arms!!!
thick kelp
Even blues for your average late CE guild
hazy flower
Even blues for your average late CE guild
More than enough
manic stirrup
getting late ce is so easy the hardest part is having 20 ppl show up
hazy flower
Ongod
thick kelp
yep
hazy flower
In my prev guild we had lots of raid nights cancelled
Because we just didnt have people
hazy flower
Even with 1 social playing
hazy flower
And it was wr800-900
storm prism
In my old guild we stopped at smolderon because two healers quit. We had gotten him to 13% the night before. I was big sadness.
So yeah I'll take a consistent blue parser over some flakey top 20 dickhead any day.
hazy flower
🤨
bright whale
Sometimes I forget that everyone isn't pushing IO
I am playing casually not hardcore gamer and want to have chill/unstressfull time playing and not getting killed
storm prism
I am playing casually not hardcore gamer and want to have chill/unstressfull tim...
Then play literally anything
Pick what looks cool and roll with it.
glad mango
If you want up-to-date sims you have to run with an up-to-date build, you are ru...
but how can the sim be the same for example .
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pvFcqpscoEPLGLtrqzJ5Yq weekly 3 mins
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vFb5qGxhghu8pjbw9RiD7D Latest 3 mins
hazy flower
I dont see any correlance between logs and showing up
storm prism
I didn't say there was one I'm not giving an example I'm saying I'd rather have someone who shows up and parses blue than someone who misses every other week but parses high when they do show up
thick kelp
Higher correlation between parsing high and showing up100% than parsing blue and showing up100%
hazy flower
Ye
crystal spruce
i parse blue and also dont show up
thick kelp
Logically thinking the parse blue guy is skipping alot of days and only shows up70% and thats the reason he parses blue
hazy flower
i parse blue and also dont show up
Stop parsing and just dont show up
thick kelp
5head
crystal spruce
good idea
hazy flower
storm prism
Reroll every week and complain when you don't get funneled
storm prism
It was a joke
bright whale
Then play literally anything
That the issue can't decide due to complication and learning difficuties
storm prism
what
neat peak
The amount of dmg I do on live Single target vs fury ST is disgusting
native obsidian
The amount of dmg I do on live Single target vs fury ST is disgusting
? live vs beta or what did you mean
neat peak
Current live server.
I went back and forth on some bosses and average dps was nearly 120k higher.
Average
storm prism
That the issue can't decide due to complication and learning difficuties
Well I can't pick for you but you said you were interested in Dev evoker yeah? It isn't a hard spec and if you decide to do harder content you could reroll Aug so it probably isn't a terrible spec to play.
bright whale
Ahhh easier than Warlock (Desto/Demo) ?
narrow flax
destro pretty easy too
not sure about demo
but deva evoker is surely one of the easier damage specs to play casually imo
very little buttons
for your rotation
to optimize it, its a bit more difficult and in depth
bright whale
I am willing to put some effort/time into it
bright whale
Thanks mate
narrow flax
o7
lucid schooner
oh shit I accidentally deleted my main warrior because I wasn't careful when deleting my low level twinks and all this so shortly before the release of tww
valid flame
It was for the best
quasi torrent
oh shit I accidentally deleted my main warrior because I wasn't careful when del...
u know character restoration exists
thick kelp
Isnt it disabled
lucid schooner
is disabled
fresh spire
Ticket a gm maybe save it
lucid schooner
i did and the answer was i should use the self restoration service, but it is disabled and the support can't restore characters.
storm prism
Rip
lucid schooner
yea
olive nest
Character restoration should unlock again so not all is lost
lucid schooner
i hope before tww release
dire hinge
fingers crossed, they're usually pretty good about character-affecting bugs
(they want you to log in and play, afterall)
silk spade
u know character restoration exists
empty pike
Hey guys, im coming back now and I heard that the colossus arms is very strong. can i trust?
dire hinge
In PVE, currently both Arms hero talents are very middle-of-the-pack, with Slayer being stronger than Colossus.
Fury currently pulls ahead of both in overalls, but Arms is still perfectly fine to play
tacit cedar
How far ahead?
dire hinge
Current numbers:
highly subject to change, follow the spreadsheet
- Arms Slayer ST: ~1.43M
- Arms Colossus ST: ~1.35M
- Fury Slayer ST: ~1.46M
- Fury Thane ST: ~1.2M
frigid lava
damn number inflation
dire hinge
yeah, kinda surprised we didn't get another squish
at DF launch we were doing ~100k (ish)
rare kite
glad we didn't, i need the biggest numbers. let me hit for 5 billion
latent moss
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
hi
woven wasp
glad we didn't, i need the biggest numbers. let me hit for 5 billion
unlucky squish in midnight
frigid lava
We need number squish...
olive nest
Ew I’d rather do 4 digit dps and 5 digit Crits
silk spade
1 morbillion MS in 11.2
latent moss
remember
dire hinge
1 purpillion dps
woven wasp
1 purpillion dps
boutta draw myself at the top of the dps meter
dire hinge
boutta draw myself at the top of the dps meter
legend has it that if you play arms you just get 1st place dps
ion himself gives you a trophy for it
silk spade
legend has it that if you play arms you just get 1st place dps
instructions unclear: i'm rage starving myself in execute
dire hinge
rare kite
legend has it that if you play arms you just get 1st place dps
sure is a legend after the nerf
latent moss
Good evening
hazy flower
Spin my beloved
crystal spruce
waxen elbow
finite mantle
carmine ginkgo
So, i was trying out arms and I was finding outside of execute, I couldnt spend rage fast enough and in execute I was starved. Am I just bad?
manic stirrup
youre probably doing something wrong before execute
but in execute yeah youre turbo starved
carmine ginkgo
slam is the filler now right? And it only uses 20 rage.
latent moss
yes
carmine ginkgo
i'm sitting there begging for tactician procs half the time.
carmine ginkgo
in ST, its just a few times during ravager.
In M+ it was quite often.
latent moss
i dont think you should be rage capping before execute
lucky tactician proc
it can happen
with skyfury
also idk his talents maybe he is playing blord
with blord its very easy
spiral lance
I only really see content from fury warriors, anyone making any for arms these days?
tough pond
Ravager still go poof?!
dire hinge
Ravager still go poof?!
im seeing mine currently
midnight mural
ravager works
dire hinge
doin damage too
opal kelp
Guys, ice veins guide is uptodate?
chrome kernel
Guys, ice veins guide is uptodate?
itll usually say at the top the last time it was updated
personally i use wowhead, since Archi runs it
wanton sierra
Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGU...
damn, very close
dire hinge
personally i use wowhead, since Archi runs it
Archi writes both
smoky kayak
damn, very close
take it all with a huge grain of salt, lots of things still unfinished
gaunt owl
take it all with a huge grain of salt, lots of things still unfinished
Arms gameplay is unfinished business
ornate eagle
magic canopy
Have you cleared m4s Mad Oxman
not yest
halcyon breach
not yest
I believe in you king
Only seen intermission myself but sherly kill this week
olive nest
Only seen intermission myself but sherly kill this week
Cool new game!?
halcyon breach
Cool new game!?
Was talking about FF14
magic canopy
Only seen intermission myself but sherly kill this week
i beleive
i have to defeat my queen once again this week
halcyon breach
🐝
reef glade
tHiS cAt HaS nInE
dusk thicket
Hey guys I have been away from Wow for a bit and have been playing Fury since my return, dabbled in arms last night, outside of the burst windows that seem quite frequent with Anger Management, is the general rotation MS>OP>Slam? maintain Rend and use SkS on CD? then Roar, Rav, CS, Avatar, am i missing something?
latent moss
thats it
dusk thicket
the aim of slam is to rest OP yeah?
reef glade
among other things sure but also just general filler dmg button
dusk thicket
KK I feel so rusty, caught myself button watching, and it was baaaad. lol
silk spade
i have to defeat my queen once again this week
IS EVERYONE HAVING A GOOD TIME 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
latent moss
the aim of slam is to rest OP yeah?
nothing else to press
dusk thicket
Hahaha that is true, i know they wanted to slow it down, it doesn't feel like that have, outside of execute, which feels just as fast until you have to wait for rage which feels bad, guess its a hard thin to balance.
magic canopy
IS EVERYONE HAVING A GOOD TIME 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
i found @visual fern
visual fern
silk spade
i found <@134176953291767808>
quasi torrent
https://tenor.com/bBwk1.gif
bälle
wanton sierra
any war beta streamer?
silk spade
any war beta streamer?
jeventes
reef glade
check the funny skyhold live thing maybe
can u believe I didn’t get role
smh my head die xan
boreal quartz
smh my head die xan
holemolee
boreal quartz
can u believe I didn’t get role
thats toxic
latent moss
Hahaha that is true, i know they wanted to slow it down, it doesn't feel like th...
sl was good
downside was execute phase didnt feel like an execute phase but
whenever u did press exe
it fucking trucked
id rather have that
than an ability that does
from 300k to 6 mil
dire hinge
yeah, we have a significant amount of buffs/modifiers slathered on
minor gust
Talent to give MS a 100% crit when
slim sinew
So is arms still the best for M+ right now
i checked the pins and i saw arms has higer top end but idk if that for raid or M+ or both
slim sinew
TWW
rare kite
So is arms still the best for M+ right now
fury prob better in tww m+
at the moment. tuning is still happening
slim sinew
bet thanks
reef glade
dry frost
I thought at one point they made it so Battlelord reset cleave
Am I going insane or was that a thing at some point
silk spade
2023 post
latent moss
at the moment. tuning is still happening
i doubt its gonna change honestly
unless they giga buff arms
fury has a better damage profile, defensives and loses less st for going aoe in m+
rare kite
ye and even if they buff arms, fury is just wayyy tankier. especially after the seasoned soldier nerf(yes i know all avoidance passives got nerfed)
latent moss
not to mention fury can take endurance training
for arms its way too big of a loss
and arms needs it more
its comical
where they put that talent
rare kite
how can fury take endurance training? it's still in the last part of talents. requires 20 points
latent moss
drop both wild strikes
fury "can" get away with dropping wild strikes
arms cant
its still a sizable dps loss
but arms loses way too much
rare kite
ye ig, the aa attack speed is big for arms
latent moss
obviously u will drop it for endurance training if u need to as arms its just that fury has an easier time
rare kite
yeye, fury doesn't rely on it for rage gen
silk spade
fury has a better damage profile, defensives and loses less st for going aoe in ...
L arms
icy root
How's our survivability compared to like, ret. I know probs not as much because no heal and bop and stuff, but yeah
reef glade
idk still good
spell reflect strong
die by the sword cool
can get ignore pain too but maybe more troll now
cuz can slam
dire hinge
we do have a heal on a CD, which isn't as good as WoG/FoL spam, but we can survive a fair amount that usually wipes others.
Dstance is often underutilized by folks
while not exactly the best "test", we can survive that Forbidden Flounder solo, for example
manic stirrup
How's our survivability compared to like, ret. I know probs not as much because ...
it’s similar
timid kelp
Arms is vulnerable to rot but insane for on demand damage reduction. Not many classes can say they have on demand 15% DR... (Defensive stance is strong as Hell)
astral yarrow
Sucks that all your mitigation is proactive though
teal fossil
It’s def one of the worse classes for rot tbh
Most specs have some random button to beat rot except arms
But arms is fine for rot if you take fvb
hazy flower
Ye
Or just spam ip for rot
Wouldn’t call it best but after playing mage there are definitely worse classes for rot
slow saddle
i gotta ask
how much loss was the ms
nerf
we doing a 2 x boost for fyrakk mount tonight and i need to know fury or arms
magic canopy
legit doesnt matter either way
midnight mural
Arms is just fine
daring heron
arms might be op but fury just plays better 
although arms nerfed now so no reason to play that over fury
slow saddle
yeah so arms and fury are equal ?
slow saddle
Arms is vulnerable to rot but insane for on demand damage reduction. Not many cl...
but fury has that as well
timid kelp
Fury has everything you can ask for defensive wise and then some. Arms is stacked but pretty much nothing compares to fury so 
boreal quartz
Fury has everything you can ask for defensive wise and then some. Arms is stacke...
fury doesnt have an actual execute compared to arms
as cringe as it plays if it does the most damage in p3 out of anyone
it has value
timid kelp
The discussion was purely about defensives. Atleast from my part 🙃
timid kelp
Arms execute dmg has allways been a niche yeah. And it's a good one to have for sure. Fyrakk progression comes to mind defensive wise. P1 was night and Day difference for arms and Fury (this is S3). You were panic mode with 10 dot stacks as arms and kinda chilling at 15stacks as Fury still.
Ofc. The correct play is just blame The healers but still. There was a noticable difference
tacit crystal
or brick up
hazy flower
Arms execute dmg has allways been a niche yeah. And it's a good one to have for ...
If I would ever have consistently lots of stacks (not one-time thing because it happened, whatever) I’d just yell at my healers
slow saddle
Arms execute dmg has allways been a niche yeah. And it's a good one to have for ...
Just doef it
dorf
pearl nymph
I can feel it on retail the nerfs 😮 OP and MS feels really bad now wtf
slow saddle
for real ?:S i have to raid as arms tonight
coz i dont have season 3 for my fury build
manic stirrup
no it feels the exact same lol
long beacon
anyone here rolling an earthen when it unlocks?
midnight mural
for real ?:S i have to raid as arms tonight
Bro just raid arms then. If you play well you will most likely still top the meters - just not by 20% to number two (or hunter) anymore.
slow saddle
Bro just raid arms then. If you play well you will most likely still top the met...
haha
midnight mural
P3 dm on fyrakk yesterday... After nerfs
Arms also still sims 35k above fury for me so i dno...
daring heron
midnight mural
<a:warrior:761040892970139649>
Chief, Whats your fury 5min st sim at ? I know u optimized it 😘
daring heron
i actually did not
midnight mural
daring heron
didnt even sim full st talents yet in prepatch
i just found that using my old crit haste crafted stuff for both arms and fury wasn't okay anymore so i had some vers mast ones made instead and thats pretty much all i changed
midnight mural
Hmm. No more recrafts 😄
daring heron
i've also hardly played live prepatch tbf, just beta and other games
boreal quartz
We haven’t raided since start July I think
havent in a 3 weeks its been nice
astral yarrow
Been a blessing with puppy, exams and internship starting up along with PoE addiction. I’ve been so fucking busy
paper turret
My guys not been keeping up much how is arms looking
midnight mural
Looks 15% less dmg than last week, but still solid
manic stirrup
its not 15% less damage its 15% less ont wo abilities
dire hinge
My guys not been keeping up much how is arms looking
looking fine, middle of the pack overall. People have complaints as always, but we'll be just dandy.
manic stirrup
warrior is pretty much always average or a little above averagfe
it is very, VERY rarely bad/really really good
teal fossil
Just pretend castle nathria didn’t exist
manic stirrup
if cn didnt exist has warrior ever been truly bad for a tier
i didnt play before bfa s2 besides turbo casual questing in western plaguelands type shit
paper turret
Cool I just prefer arms to fury looking forward to coming back
wanton sierra
looking fine, middle of the pack overall. People have complaints as always, but ...
what do u mean my being dandy?
dire hinge
sorry, it's a turn of phrase meaning "we'll be acceptable to play without too much worry"
wanton sierra
nice... i hope so! ❤️
slender raptor
Is arms' perfomance overall worse than fury's in m+ after the latest patch?
teal fossil
Yes
manic stirrup
a little bit
arms is still good though
its aoe is untouched just worse prio damage and st which was very very high to begin with
gaunt owl
its aoe is untouched just worse prio damage and st which was very very high to b...
we play CS so prio dmg is peak
ebon hollow
boreal quartz
Got nerfed yesterday
minor gust
yup arms is dead now
you have to reroll furry or delete your character
just how it is
minor gust
sage rampart
you have to reroll furry or delete your character
sterile gazelle
Guys 1 quick question pls. On retail when do we use execute? To empower mortal strike?
boreal quartz
yea basically
ms once 2 stacks, exe if u can and then op if u cannot
in ravager just spam execute
sterile gazelle
Thanks
normal lotus
noble oxide
ms once 2 stacks, exe if u can and then op if u cannot
I thought you only MS if there’s 2 stacks of execute AND 2 stacks of OP
boreal quartz
thats from 2 seasons ago
minor gust
oh Max did an interview with Morgan I wonder if he asked about parry again
graceful axle
no parry, but crests reduction for alts 👍
minor gust
yeah I saw that
reef glade
(30%)
minor gust
pretty big
minor gust
Yeah I think a heftyer discount would be better because you potentially will already have the gear for the character thanks to warbound gear dropping on ur main so you are just really gated to crest farming
graceful axle
not sure cause i wasn't fully paying attention to the interview, guildie said that there is a warband bonus as well for raid drops and such
can't confirm or deny cause sub only vod 👍
woven wasp
we've known that since blizzcon
lower level pieces of gear will drop from stuff you do thats warbound
woven wasp
your guildie is wrong then
graceful axle
kk
smoky kayak
there are no additional crests like that afaik, na
tacit crystal
can't confirm or deny cause sub only vod 👍
go to youtube if you want to replay
graceful axle
go to youtube if you want to replay
wicked aurora
oh Max did an interview with Morgan I wonder if he asked about parry again
I really don't understand their obsession with parry on raid bosses when they removed it from M+ entirely
graceful axle
gotta justify that RPG tag 👍
jovial beacon
can i ask someone to look at my log here
graceful axle
can i ask someone to look at my log here
jovial beacon
can you go look at mine ther e 🙂
graceful axle
not the one to ask
dire hinge
tossed some small things in there 👍
frigid lava
I have hard time keeping my hp above 90% in higher+
frigid lava
probably should switch out the mastery craft?
manic stirrup
armored to the teeth buff xd
pretty sure it doesnt work with that
summer heath
hows arm in tww cause tired of being caster and looking to low apm melee class
manic stirrup
expansion hasnt come out yet
vast hinge
pretty sure it doesnt work with that
cant see why it wouldnt
increases your armor by 10%
and armored to the teeth just takes your armor * 10%
manic stirrup
im pretty sure its specifically made to not work with the talent
dire hinge
hows arm in tww cause tired of being caster and looking to low apm melee class
Arms has a fairly decent APM (we use most of our GCDs). We're currently sitting roughly in the middle of the pack, but as others have mentioned it's all subject to change still, so we can't say with 100% certainty how things will shake out.
summer heath
Ahh
frigid lava
Man...
mages are babies now... that their dps isn't where it used to be
their egos don't match their dps anymore
"the tank doesn't recognize when dps has cds. I don't need this key. bye"
bruh... heal was dead.
sorry venting 😦
frigid lava
🫂
ty i needed one
that was right before HOI last boss... lol
still had like 5 minutes left on +15
untold trench
You died to wave / into / I was typing
Someone give that mage a hug tho. Ego so bruised he gotta be hurtin' irl.
chilly copper
he wants me to check out his multi character io
Long short of it is "I know I am playing badly now, but its justified cause I supposedly have other characters that are 3k rated toons"
Like I dont care, your not on those other characters are you? 🤣
dire hinge
if the vibes are off i just mute em ngl
zealous pivot
bro that mage is ass if its the one im thinking of
not sure if it was needles or spelled like that cant remember
abstract vale
IO is just a participation award, the real score is the fwiends you make 
rare kite
holy shit the mage has colossus smash
reef glade
why is bloodletting not working on remix for me at least
havent noticed/played live
not applying rend in execute phase
dire hinge
things hit execute phase on remix?
reef glade
when youre in this group... yes
reef glade
slam good
frigid lava
do yall stack on vers for higher M+?
reef glade
i mean prolly dont like full send into it but getting it where u can sure
just like sim and eventually verse will be better
but i dont think ppl like put on pvp gear just to do m+
astral yarrow
It has mostly been trinket changes the higher you go
Or in SL it was dropping ilvl/wanted stats for avoidance lol
hazy flower
U prob want a bit more versa but try to find the silver lining, getting as much vers possible while losing as little dam possible
woven herald
Hi warriors, new warrior here, any one with a macro that presses thunderclap if talented but defaults to rend if thunderclap is not selected as a talent?
dire hinge
Hi warriors, new warrior here, any one with a macro that presses thunderclap if ...
Sure thing, it’d be something like this:
/cast [known: Thunder clap] Thunder clap; Rend
- The “[known]” part acts as an “if” statement
- While “;” acts as the “else”, or a fallback
frigid lava
Why would you cast rend instead of thunderclap?
woven herald
Sure thing, it’d be something like this:
/cast [known: Thunder clap] Thunder cla...
Thank you!
dire hinge
With the new updates you want to use natural Rend over TClap in single target
woven herald
really nice of you 🙂
dire hinge
Always happy to help!
frigid lava
With the new updates you want to use natural Rend over TClap in single target
how so? curiosity
dire hinge
how so? curiosity
With the prepatch changes, TClap and Rend both cost the same Rage amount now, but Rend has a larger upfront punch to it. It’s a small dps increase, but it’s there.
The macro would make it so you don’t even have to think about it based on your talents.
woven herald
Another question sorry, I'm not quite sure if we ever (never say never) use whirlwind when we have cleave talented. Do we?
dire hinge
Another question sorry, I'm not quite sure if we *ever* (never say never) use wh...
So fun fact: you can’t!
Cleave now replaces Whirlwind as an ability (if talented)
dire hinge
You’re totally fine haha, it’s a fresh change and unexpected
teal fossil
do yall stack on vers for higher M+?
You start playing tank trinkets at the highest keys
timid kelp
Does cleave hit harder than slam for ST If you play The "m+" builds that run cleave
slow saddle
no but it keeps up the buff
timid kelp
Or is slam still better ST Button for bosses and what not
slow saddle
from tier
so id say if u have NO op no ms rdy id prob just use it to keep buff up
but in gen u will slam if buff is up
wanton sierra
in all my time as arms warrior... slam aways felt wack to press.... i lie, on bfa season 4 there was an azerite trait that you could stack that was cruushing assault... that would give us an smoll chance to slam to proc but it deals tons of dam (and you could stack 3x, so slam was hittin massive, okish on pvp... but low proc rate)
slam need some love... idk every 5th slam shall be 3x its dam (critable)... or every criteed slam restore ms cd and next ms cost no rage
eternal edge
Hey guys, what hero talents spec will you play in raid? I'm not sure actually tbh
silk spade
Does cleave hit harder than slam for ST If you play The "m+" builds that run cle...
Keep in mind Cleave casts slam if you have Fervor of Battle
manic stirrup
Why would you cast rend instead of thunderclap?
does more damage in 1t or 2t with ss active
manic stirrup
Or is slam still better ST Button for bosses and what not
slam is better and you dont wanna consume your martial prowess buff on cleave instead of ms
so you should never be pressing cleave on st
signal heart
Keep in mind Cleave casts slam if you have Fervor of Battle
only if cleave hits 3+ targets
silk spade
Oh I thought he was asking for prio damage in m+ I misunderstood
old oyster
In aoe when do we press mortal striker and when do we cleave ?
warped spade
only if cleave hits 3+ targets
They changed it to 2
warped spade
does more damage in 1t or 2t with ss active
@frigid lava This was always true.^ The reason you did TC before was because arms had unlimited rage, TC was more rage than rend which played in with anger management and contributed to ToM more (the latter we are no longer running)
warped spade
in all my time as arms warrior... slam aways felt wack to press.... i lie, on bf...
try classic cata if you haven't, Actually feels like slamming. hits as hard/harder? than MS minus the perks of MS(crit bleeds/procs) so you still MS as prio but slam feels/felt really good. OP shares the blame now, hits way harder than it did, too much imho for a spell that costs no rage.
Arms used to be the slower spec (now debatedly as fast as fury) where rage management was your primary focus. I want to slam but should I? TWW feels better but it's still pretty hard to int yourself spending too much rage compared to some previous iterations
boreal quartz
SL was neat
warped spade
SL was one of the better ones
frigid lava
Does anyone use SS to buff up cleave even in ST?
collateral damage + cleave absolutely wrecks even in ST
woven wasp
collat needs two targets
manic stirrup
In aoe when do we press mortal striker and when do we cleave ?
ms over cleave if there is 1 big prio target, still use cleave but ms will be higher prio
cleave over ms if everything is pretty equal in hp
paper dove
did anyone do archmage xylem mage tower on prepatch?
i am really struggling, Bladestorm has no Cdr anymore so the last phase is pretty rough killing the adds in time
old oyster
ms over cleave if there is 1 big prio target, still use cleave but ms will be hi...
Thanks
boreal quartz
pinned
devout pewter
Anyone got a stance swap macro?
Here you go:
/cast [stance:2]Defensive Stance; [spec:1/3,stance:0/1]Battle Stance; [spec:2,stance:0/1]Berserker Stance;
Dynamically switches to what you need
modest marlin
They are just zeroing out the spec auras
hard cedar
seems like they're just reseting the Aura to 0%
modest marlin
So they removed the aura and buffed all the abilities by that amount baseline
smoky berry
are we saved?
surreal veldt
no man, its over
versed carbon
booooog
devout pewter
we so saved, it's definitly over
fickle lotus
wanton sierra
spark obsidian
hmm, they buffed some skills but removed a 43% aura buff?
spark obsidian
yeap
wanton sierra
ohh i didnt noticed the 43%
last tendon
massiv nerf?
dry frost
It’s practically unchanged
reef glade
love scaling late at night
stoic island
So they removed the aura and buffed all the abilities by that amount baseline
what does it change actually ?
astral yarrow
net 0 basically
uncut pasture
hotfix is just a Fatal Mark buff
astral yarrow
slight nerfs hidden in there along with some minor buffs
thick kelp
fatal mark still dead im afraid
eternal edge
but if they cancel aura and buff some techniques, we'll be able to scale more?
astral yarrow
its mainly a joke
teal fossil
No
long beacon
yes you now go paladin
wanton sierra
its mainly a joke
i was hyped and exited for an second xD
astral yarrow
I am trying to get hyped for TWW
eternal edge
same
astral yarrow
but its kinda hard
hushed cipher
You can, just play frost dk
eternal edge
new talents are not so new tbh
sly venture
Is Skullsplitter a boring ability, asking for a friend
reef glade
yea
sly venture
I will tell him to play Fury thx
hazy flower
dire hinge
latent orbit
how are the new hero abilities feeling?
eternal edge
great imho except demolish
dire hinge
https://www.wowhead.com/news/create-personalized-dragonflight-expansion-recaps-with-raider-io-345909
daring heron
but its kinda hard
arms life
stark bay
Idk I think I'm pretty content at where we are compared to DF
valid fjord
Seems like blizzard doesnt have any devs on warrior class lol
stark bay
Sounds about right yeah.
civic isle
Has there been any news on which week catalyst kicks in?
mellow frigate
So, what's the verdict on those changes? lol
minor gust
net neutral
reef glade
dire hinge
So, what's the verdict on those changes? lol
tldr: we went from a 43% Aura buff to 0% aura buff. The missing 43% was then applied into our abilities instead.
Essentially nothing changed.