arms

[teal fossil]

That’s my stream

[daring flicker]

belphegor more like smellphegor

[teal fossil]

I feel like people who have hof don’t say “famed slayer”

They would just say hof

[strange perch]

https://tenor.com/view/billy-madison-hey-mister-cut-it-out-i-dont-even-know-you-adam-sandler-gif-5412466490041205638

[teal fossil]

Not to mention you can get hof by being friends and family in a hof guild

[smoky kayak]

better to stop engaging, it just eggs those kinds of people on

[teal fossil]

And just clear the boss anytime

[manic stirrup]

meh ppl say curved and stuff like that all the time

[teal fossil]

Hi archi did you have a burrito today

[smoky kayak]

no, I had a hotdog

[teal fossil]

Better be Costco dog

[strange perch]

so stupid you need a membership to buy that

its so good tho

[smoky kayak]

that's how they get memberships, duh

[manic stirrup]

some stores will let u walk in and buy food

but only the food court not any groceries

[teal fossil]

Yeah

I think Costco nerfed it

You need a membership now

[strange perch]

the one by my house checks memberships while youre waiting in line lol

[teal fossil]

Used to not need it

[manic stirrup]

oh shit really

[teal fossil]

They also see if you match the pic now

[strange perch]

if i worked there i would let ppl buy food

[teal fossil]

I think at food court it’s fine

Not sure

I’m a Sam’s guy now

They don’t check anything

Sam’s also got better pizza

[strange perch]

they cant however require a membership to buy alcohal

[teal fossil]

I’m sure you are confusing that with medicine

[strange perch]

no its alcohal

maybe medecine too

[manic stirrup]

put your house on it

[smoky kayak]

also fwiw, this seems like a fairly antagonistic response toward someone you don't know, so take it down a notch

[strange perch]

no i get it, it was my bad. just telling someone to do that is kind of illegal

[smoky kayak]

escalation of force, chat room style

[strange perch]

Penal code 401 PC - assisted suicide

which is a felony

[smoky kayak]

Yeah... how about we just stick to discussing World of Warcraft

[strange perch]

will do!

[frigid lava]

I like off topic too tho

[sinful birch]

hi! I just recently started playing arms again this season, is it viable to not use cleave in m+?

i kinda don't like the button >.>;

[frigid lava]

cleave is great when it comes to 4+ targets

[sacred zodiac]

if you're playing the new tier set you should be pressing cleave ye

[smoky kayak]

you could get away without it, though you'd lose a good bit of optimization

[quasi torrent]

youd be griefing quite hard in most keys realistically

[smoky kayak]

it's also pretty heavily used next tier as well, so I'd suggest going on a weekend retreat and getting in touch with your inner Cleave

[dire hinge]

It will replace Whirlwind at least which is nice

[frigid lava]

I don't even have WW bound.

[boreal quartz]

Lolmoa

[sinful birch]

is ww not used right now?

[strange perch]

whats the talent called that makes your ww do 200% damage after bs

[teal fossil]

Beongrinder

It’s more lik50%

[strange perch]

yes! i liked that one in sl

[teal fossil]

You are supposed to use ww rn

[teal fossil]

It was very intrusive to rotation

[manic stirrup]

what

[teal fossil]

Liked it more for fury

[manic stirrup]

but like

[teal fossil]

Arms had too many conditionals

[sacred zodiac]

crazy self report

[manic stirrup]

its a button for fury as well

why wouldnt u have it bound

[teal fossil]

Lazy

[manic stirrup]

fascinating

[strange perch]

do we get hero talents in pre patch or is it just the reworked talents

[woven wasp]

hero talents unlock at 71

[dire hinge]

We’ll get the other talent changes, but no hero talent trees

[strange perch]

poo, so im guessing our rotation will feel quite weird in prepatch?

[dire hinge]

Should be chill

[strange perch]

granted they will do the scourge or kill the rares for lower ilvl gear in a zone

so it probably wont matter too much

but legendary effect wont go away, right?

[woven wasp]

nothing is changing

except talents obv

[teal fossil]

Arms gonna seem horrible in prepatch

[woven wasp]

and i think all 3 raids will go fated

[teal fossil]

Unless it comes with the 30% aura buff

In which case arms is the best spec in the game

[strange perch]

what makes fury better than arms? i havent seen too much of the changes for warrior

[teal fossil]

Well it’s going to be prepatch

Meaning no hero talents no tier

And fury is more cohesive without hero talents and tier

[woven wasp]

tier is not going anywhere

[teal fossil]

I’ve been hearing conflicting info

For prepatch

[woven wasp]

blizzard havent said its going

[boreal quartz]

Damage

[woven wasp]

anyone else is speculating on nothing

[boreal quartz]

Also pad spec in pad raid

[bleak jasper]

im pretty sure the prepatch has the aura buffs

i was doing a bit more on dummies

[dire hinge]

We currently have a 30% aura buff. The change you saw in the patch notes was from them recentering us back to 0 and then re-applying what we already have.

Give or take a few percent

[teal fossil]

Nah we only at 18% right now

[dire hinge]

Ah perfect, Ty

[teal fossil]

We are scaling so hard

Arms is probably not going to be great in prepatch though

Fury gets huge auras

[bleak jasper]

in my experience in 5 target dummies fury is doing a lot more yeah

[hazy flower]

What is making arms scale genuine question I thought all this scaling stuff is outdated

[teal fossil]

It’s a joke

[hazy flower]

Flew over my head

Some people use the scaling argument quite a lot

[quasi torrent]

s word

do not the s word

[latent moss]

not even

it plays 10x better

arms is all fine on a dummy

but in a key...

they HAVE to redo demolish cdr

just put it on anger management

[slow saddle]

Why?

[latent moss]

cause it never aligns with anything in m+

[slow saddle]

The misalignment?

[latent moss]

u have to hold shit when u dont want to

[slow saddle]

U just

Gotta know

When to hold it

Know when to fold it

🤣

[latent moss]

ye i love when all my cds are misaligned

at least roar isnt 1min anymore with uproar

at least they made it 45

[slow saddle]

I guess my, song joke didnt hit😅

But ye coll does slap. The missalignment is hella annoying

[strange perch]

U.O.E.N.O

[prisma heart]

those r based on max season 4 character with giga stats, i was wondering what they r gonna look like in s1 tww when we have way less stats. bonus crit damage or bonus stat from all sources are less valuable the less stats u have flat 1% haste when we have low haste seems cracked idk

[vital mulch]

As @sacred zodiac knows I'll be dwarf.

[latent moss]

why does it even matter lmao

[opaque citrus]

[reef glade]

bro wants to min max races for 40 dps next xpac

do whatever your heart desires

[smoky kayak]

you'll probably have to wait till TWW is released for that, but human, dwarf/tauren, NE, etc are always good choices

but it typically doesn't matter, you gain so little out of races you can just do whatever

[prisma heart]

I play panda and it was a 2k-3k DPS loss so idk. Nothing huge but with mop remix cracked leveling I decided 2 just make new warrior

[fading sage]

Roughly what will the pre-patch build look like

I tried making my own build but warrior brain small

[steep delta]

How many bullions can I earn a week?

I know the cap goes up but I seem to hit a wall with bosses randomly and they stop dropping

[sacred zodiac]

you can gain an additional one per week with catchup for all the weekly ones you've missed

[floral sierra]

i use Slay/sunstriders flourish/holy martyr + searing light/windweaver/brittle + wildfire/enkindle/explosive barrage + Lifestorm atm

anything i could replace for remix?

[boreal quartz]

Seek help

[floral sierra]

ty\

[boreal quartz]

Brittle bait use the healing thing

For lifestorm

[reef glade]

-brittle -martyr I think + hailstorm + lightning rod

what o think I use

[edgy snow]

Hey guys, Im new to the game and looking to play warrior since i love the theme and from what people say its quite easy for beginners.

Which spec would you say is more fun? Arms or fury?

[reef glade]

fury a bit more of the frantic/chaotic swing weapons around over and over until things die where arms “feels” more like the calculating hit enemies where it hurts cuz of their big single hit damage abilities

if you’re just going for that kind of feel

fury next xpac lookin pretty insane currently where arms’ hero talents is like good just don’t think it’s measuring up to the perfect slayer synergy of fury

[frigid lava]

might go back to fury... depends on how they feel

always have two weapons handy

[edgy snow]

Ill check out what they are getting and see, but from what you say maybe fury seems more my thing, is it easy to change between each one later on?

[frigid lava]

It's still easy right now... if you have gears farmed lol because stats probably different

[outer holly]

Mark of arrogance at higher vers is one of the best gems, holy martyr is garbage

[reef glade]

o yea mark is nice if u can always be hit by stuff

Some bosses don’t proc it at all tho

but if ur a tank you 100% pick mark

[outer holly]

Even as a SP mark is still often at worst 6% of my overall, often my highest damage on longer fights, aoe is enough to trigger is consistently

But I also wind up being the tank 9 times out of 10

Barrage surprisingly is one of my worst testing gems on average, I dropped it for lightning rod

[slow saddle]

I mean currently id say at least in tww fury has a set rotation where as arms is so much procs on procs and more chaotic😅

Sd procc op proccs ms proccs😅

[reef glade]

yea was more talkin like animations/feels even if fury rotation way simpler you still just swing the shit outta your swords like a bat out of hell

whereas arms like every ability sword swings once

still do think fury the owner currently

[reef glade]

actually swapping specs is literally a click of a button, but each different spec has a little different stat priorities typically, for instance fury going in on haste mastery is the most common and crit haste for arms

but honestly if u just started the game that kind of thing barely matters

you’ll still probably perform like 90% within the expected range of one spec if you swap to another with the same gear

so if u want to try the other spec after getting comfy with one it’s not really an issue

[edgy snow]

Right now I'm still at 25, there's already a few diffences between them but stuff is still very basic.

Another thing, is Slam something I should use or ignore it? I already got some other skills that deal good dmg with almost as much rage needed

[outer holly]

Slam is your filler spell, you cast it when you have nothing else

At your level there may not be much, so you may wind up casting it a lot, but it's prio stays about the same throughout the leveling process

[upbeat minnow]

Besides ilvl, how do I raise my big crit numbers?

[thick kelp]

ilvl

[boreal quartz]

TOM, aug, smolderon

[upbeat minnow]

whats tom?

[reef glade]

test of might

and on use trinkets

and stacking modifiers

double EP double overpower mortal strike

with Tom cs avatar puzzle box smolderon dmg amp

[upbeat minnow]

oh wow I definitely looked over that

I've probably been playing fast, but not strategically

[sacred zodiac]

going for max crit numbers might not exactly be optimal

[upbeat minnow]

no it's likely not lol. I just like challenging myself in lfr

[sacred zodiac]

do this then

[reef glade]

biggest hit u can probably do in a single ability is lining up a fat fatal mark on mythic rasz which I could’ve had if I didn’t suck

but one successful attempt I think I got like 12mil damage from that 1 hit

I also might not have had Tom up for it and I def didn’t have strength pot up for it

[boreal quartz]

Btw @reef glade i had 500k fyrakk P3 im psure that's not great cuz we didnt bl there

Pot is fake

[upbeat minnow]

ok yeah thats similar i think to what i've been trying. 2 overpower, 2 executes and then mortal strike

[reef glade]

we didn’t lust either

[upbeat minnow]

damn lol

[reef glade]

and I was also holding a seed the whole phase

but like uh…

500k sounds good bro…

[sacred zodiac]

trying to line up fatal mark on rasz is so fucking cringe now

slightly miss s1 timings for that

[boreal quartz]

I hate p2 lust

[boreal quartz]

Ye idk i didnt have enha

Doomed

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1236380261160058961/1262115242792714331/image.png?ex=66956bea&is=66941a6a&hm=ce36cdb54db41a60ccc9eebbfedbf977e4c8d2e74e26b80d1e42de32c6ee88b3&

[reef glade]

Wym doing too much dmg or too little

just be in a raid with ppl that do way less than you if the former

our kill boss at 30.4% into third shield…

[sacred zodiac]

idk s1 was just perfect cause you lusted start of p3 where youd be bulding your tom for fataility

[reef glade]

fucking tragedy…

[sacred zodiac]

now you hit fatality in the end of p2?? sometimes??

[reef glade]

boss was that healthy?

o yea like every time I would think

don’t remember but sounds likely

then again I killed a grand total of I think 3 times

in s1

[boreal quartz]

Im psure a better guild could fatal Frank in p2

If you lust that

[reef glade]

my guild just decided to lust start p2 at like 2:30

not sure when that was communicated

or if they realized like cds are shit there

cuz s3 prob it was after first drop

rip bozo tho ig

still died

[boreal quartz]

For us we lust start p2

I have cs + nothing there

It's disgusting

I just CD colossus twice

P3 twice p1 twice

[odd helm]

New to arms prepping to main it in tww, should I always use thunderous roar with avatar? Or should I use it with test if might buff?

[boreal quartz]

With ava

Delaying is cringe

[odd helm]

Good deal I made a macro to cast avatar then orc racial then TR safe to always just stick with that instead of worrying about timing?

[boreal quartz]

That's wrong

Since you roar cs ava in st rn

• 1 min roar exists

You NEED a keybind

On sark too you send ava but hold roar for a sec in p2

Losing agency over your damage for the uptime of a keybind is not worth it

[outer holly]

If we're getting technical, if you know it's the last avatar you'll be able to cast that fight, you can hold it for more value, but that's more for aligning it with the exe phase instead of worrying about CS/TOM

[odd helm]

Ahhhh ok why roar then Ava? Why not benefit from buff?

[boreal quartz]

Bleed does more than the initial hit

It's an extra GCD in cs

[odd helm]

Makes sense super helpful thank you!

[boreal quartz]

Only worth in st

[upbeat minnow]

I did not know that

[grim haven]

do you guys think playing unhinged is better than running hurricane? just got my new tset and I think its worth giving it a shot

[dire hinge]

Currently no, it sounds cool on paper, but in practice the 30% additional mainsta is far more worthwhile than just a few mortal strikes (in PVE)

[dire hinge]

It’s fine to do in AoE as well currently too.

Holding roar to do one big uncapped hit is roughly similar to roaring early and letting it tick while hurricane builds.

[daring heron]

can pretty much flip a coin and do whichever order

[boreal quartz]

but you also wb before bs in aoe

So youd just ava wb roar bs idk

[rare kite]

think we did the math on this in season 1, and it basically did not matter

[boreal quartz]

Die hurricane die

[daring heron]

it's dying so it's all g

we just need to keep wishing for juggernaut's death

[boreal quartz]

Slayer dominance kinda acts similar

But also less cringe

Delete juggernaut

[latent moss]

jugg removed -> exe does damage

[upbeat minnow]

I don’t think I realized how complex arms could be

[dire hinge]

people are also incredibly skilled at overthinking things too 😅

[reef glade]

def a few more bells and whistles than fury going on but most of the stuff is pretty passive I’d say once u get used to it

[latent moss]

fatality optimizations with tom

for extra 0.2% dps

tom optimizations in general

demolish with fatality too

[hazy flower]

The only actual tom optimisation is on smoldy boy

Big dam with ashes

Pot ashes ctc proc

Stars would have to line up

And pi for massive tom

[latent moss]

its always worth to align tom for fatality but

if it doesn't its not big

[upbeat minnow]

Is there much freedom with the arms talent tree?

[teal fossil]

No

[copper summit]

For ppl who are 9/9 m did y’all just get lucky with a good guild or climb till you got into a good guild ? Always wondered how ppl get into those guilds

[teal fossil]

Play a lot

Have the willpower to suffer

[misty bridge]

played a lot ye, then I got picked up by a guild with a good atmosphere that consistently gets CE every tier

[rare kite]

i joined a guild that my friend was in, they had gotten 1 CE before i joined so not really a CE guild at that point

[copper summit]

This expan is the highest I’ve been I.o wise and mythic 3245 and 2 raids 5 kills and 4 kills

I want to climb more but it’s hard I.o when you’re not meta. And for raid when my logs look bad because everyone brings alts and it’s long fights

[rare kite]

you can still get good parses on longer fights, just depends on how many cds you get in

like you want the fights to last x duration so that you get x cds

[copper summit]

We did vel 4mins and some sec and was around 350kish

[dire hinge]

very nice! It'll be your call if you want to stay with that same group for next season or not, but having that baseline of 4-5 kills progress can get you in as a trial elsewhere. It's important to find a group that supports your needs

sometimes it could mean getting a trial with a CE group, or you might find a different one that maybe gets 8/10 kills, eventually into a CE one in a future season

progress isn't always straight forward

[thick kelp]

guilds will start recruitment limbo soon and alot of low end CE guilds will take anybody with decent mythic logs

[dire hinge]

always look out for yourself and what you want to do though, its just a game and you dont have to suffer through stuff if it doesn't support you

true yeah, put some feelers out on recruitment sites and see what you can get bites on 😄

[copper summit]

^ yess my last guild we had a rl who yelled and made ppl feel bad so left that guild and this one is CHILL

[dire hinge]

extremely valid. My first raiding guild was like that and I didn't realize what a bad learning environment it was until i changed guilds

[copper summit]

Yea that’s why I don’t wanna leave this one because everyone’s chill but I wanna push my self more to see what I can get but I really don’t want another yelling raid leader and find another one and it’s just a cycle

I’ve notice lower mythic killer guilds they have the angry raid leaders and the higher you go the calmer they are. Just notice that by watching ppls YouTube’s and streams

[dire hinge]

yeah, how the RL communicates is on them, but i've definitely seen frustrations arise out of teams that don't have similar skillsets

or at least mindsets

[rare kite]

that's not necessarily true, we're like rank 1000 or something and our guild leader is chill

[thick kelp]

Troop from crits guild pepelaugh

[rare kite]

oh is that the raidleaders name? ye he's an angry fellow, but he seems like a very good raidleader

[worn iron]

My raid leader is very short and gets shorter as the night goes on

[boreal quartz]

Idk in my old old guild were we were bad we had a very patient rl

And now as im higher up he's less tolerant for reoccurring mistakes other guy wouldve shrugged off

[midnight mural]

Same way as with most other endeavors - obsess about getting better and put in the hours. You get better by playing with people who are better than yourself. When (if) you become the best in your guild, then its time to move on - if your goal is to climb up the ranks.

[boreal quartz]

For me i went from pugged 2M to shit guild 3M to diff shit guild 3M to better guild 7/8M (they killed boss i missed over irl) to 9/9 same guild, 9/9 better guild

The jump from 3 to 7 was by knowing a guy in there and being less shit than i was at the start

[dense comet]

Anyone recommend the best resource for learning arms warrior gameplay/rotation for a complete beginner thats never played warrior before?

[vital mulch]

There are guides on this discord. Other than that. Check a few vids. Train vs the training dummies to get used to your rotation and applying what the guide/vids tells ya

[dense comet]

any particular creators you'd reccomend? 🙂

[vital mulch]

Can't say I've checked any for years. Seeing I'm quite used to warrior. So i can't help ya there

[dense comet]

No worries, thanks for the tips anyway 😁

[vital mulch]

No worries and best of luck learning the spec 🙂

[eternal vortex]

I recommend Jeventes on ytube

And check logs on wowlogs under the timeline section to analyze cd usages on particular bosses

[dense comet]

thank you, I'll check them out. Appreciate it, I normally do some deeper research but I've just come back to retail and picked up the warrior and wanted a basic intro before the prepatch

[eternal vortex]

No worries. Have fun adventuring warrior and we have a lot of folks who are extremely good at playing this class. Feel free to ask if you have any questions

[hasty thunder]

Hello guys

I wanna know how y'all looking at arms war for TWW

Like, the changes done to the spec were needed?

[boreal quartz]

I think there being rotational variance between the hero specs is cool

[boreal quartz]

Interesting for gameplay for sure

[wheat whale]

#1230008337517514772

[boreal quartz]

Juggernaut needs to go

Execute is tuned weirdly

[young perch]

wait whats wrong with juggernaut?

[boreal quartz]

Its one of the causes of executes trash tuning

If you can scale a spell it's base has to be weaker

And thus things like critical thinking, juggernaut, impale make the base spell worse

Which makes arms as a whole worse as it's your gimmick

And if you dont Lust execute or have a long ass fight

You are just bad

• other classes do execute better anyways LOL

@young perch for context on beta execute unbuffed hits for about 100k - so does slan

[young perch]

ah i see, theres point to that

[sweet anchor]

yeah backloading all of arms damage into execute phase does kinda suck, plus having to RAMP in the short execute phase (where, like youe said other classes will speed it up due to theirown more powerful executes) it just.... needs so looking at is all

[boreal quartz]

and thats why jugg has to go

[untold trench]

If you remove massacre, you could significantly increase the base damage. Making SD procs and jugg more impactful.

With a shorter window the higher dps within it can be without hurting overall profile

Really depends on what you think phase should be

[boreal quartz]

not mass fault

jugg fault

[olive nest]

Definitely remove jug

Making SD procs meaningful sounds good

If they also removed mass they’d have to significantly boost executes damage

[thick kelp]

Massacre is like

zdps

xdd

[olive nest]

It’s true now because jug has to ramp right

If execute was baseline large

Mass prob gain a lot

Honestly I think I’d like Mass being gone too

Fatality stonks

[untold trench]

Would be a lot, if exe did a lot. The bigger the value gap between exe and the option, the bigger the effect of Jug

[copper summit]

Tww new talents are coming on pre patch right? Including the hero talents but we won’t be able to use the hero talents because we can’t lvl up right?

Or same talents as now and all new talents trees including hero talents till release date?

[woven wasp]

this is correct

[hollow axle]

Is there any info about able to get bullions after july 23?

[woven wasp]

fated isnt coming to a stop so i assume youll still get them till that ends

[old urchin]

They didn’t stop last time did they? The dinars that is.

[strange perch]

why would you want bullions after july 23

[spark epoch]

Transmog

[hollow axle]

I ran out of game time and didn't buy a second hand for fury

[strange perch]

what else did you buy, theres only like 4 things u needed

[hollow axle]

I wanting like 26 august maybe to go back

idk

i think i bought an ICON

[strange perch]

rip, may the odds be in your favor!

we do not know what blizz will do

we can only give info historically

[hollow axle]

just hope arms wont be garbage on pre patch

cuz on beta...

[dire hinge]

mog options have been dope yeah

same goes for catalyst

especially on other armor type alts

[teal fossil]

blizzard tried this in df beta

they nerfed massacre

people complained

so execute got nerfed instead

[strange perch]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-rachel-mc-adams-the-notebook-what-do-you-want-confused-gif-3547522

[untold trench]

People want execute to be a strong button; they also want it to be available all the time

[opaque citrus]

blizz seems to heavily be moving away from high burst, even execute windows

[distant sage]

guys in pandaria remix what stat do i wanna focus

[dire hinge]

it genuinely doesn't matter because your power comes from the cookie-clicker-like feedback loop of just logging on and infinitely scaling. You'll hit 100%+ in every stat with enough gameplay.

But generally crit=haste>mastery=verse

eventually you'll just be wearing full vers gems because your cloak will cover your other stats to 100%

[distant sage]

alright thanks

does mastery have a cap?

[woven wasp]

yeah like ~130k

[clever crag]

EXECUTE never more rip

[misty bridge]

Arms being backloaded in execute is just boring

delete jugg

[boreal quartz]

Delete Juggernaut

[thick kelp]

Delete Juggernaut

[gaunt owl]

Delete juggernaut

[paper gulch]

Lol

[ornate eagle]

keep jugg

s4 dmg profile is alright if you ask me

going ssj in execute is how it should be

[rare kite]

You can do that without jugg tho. Buff EP, buff execute itself

[ornate eagle]

Whatever gets the job done

The 35% nerf to execute and rework of jugg from SL to DF did hurt it

Jugg having been crit chance and only 8 stacks max

Prot suffered alot from that nerf aswell as we share the same execute

[clever crag]

Jugg was great

99 stacks

[rare kite]

Except that was fury

[clever crag]

Still great

[rare kite]

Ye so fury can keep theirs

[frigid lava]

item can't be upgraded anymore?

[ornate eagle]

Issa bug

Will be fixed soontm

[boreal quartz]

Ur not ssj tho

At any time

That's cringe

[ornate eagle]

Yeah doing 30% more damage than anyone else in the raid during execute is not enough

U rite

[clever crag]

It used to be 100% kek

[ornate eagle]

Well aware

[boreal quartz]

Right

[ornate eagle]

Pwar also used to be the 2nd best execute class in SL s3/s4

But then the great purge happened

[clever crag]

They ruined the game by giving execute type abilities to too many specs

[ornate eagle]

AJ nerfed
Execute dmg nerfed
Execute rage refund only available to arms, no longer on prot
Banner removed

[thick kelp]

Deserved

tank spec stay tanking

[ornate eagle]

Tank dn

[thick kelp]

Mods give DN emote

[unreal zenith]

Hi 🙂 does anyone have a log or two from an arms warrior i can follow and compare with to improve my raiding logs?
There is a lot to choose from so i want to choose the "correct" logs from consistent players etc.
Thank you.

[ornate eagle]

Critcake his logs should be public

Can't go wrong checking them out!

[boreal quartz]

Pick my logs im definitely consistent lmao

Swordish is a good check too

Gajeel

Eroka

[ornate eagle]

Mine are only consistent as prot

Arms is a bit of an up and down

[unreal zenith]

Thanks!

[boreal quartz]

In S3 i had 3 kills on HC council which totalled to 100

0 1 99

[ornate eagle]

I got r5 on eranog and a grey log on dathea

🤝

[boreal quartz]

I got r1 bossdam on sark r3 overall best no pi log and a grey on szkarn

Gaming i suppose

Thank fuck it's voti again

Piss free 1 nighter

[ornate eagle]

I'm hyped for pre-patch

Can do all 3 raids

Instead of just having a 1hr raid night

[boreal quartz]

I dont want more raid lmao

Hate amir

[ornate eagle]

I want more raid

[boreal quartz]

I want less wow

[ornate eagle]

Need to improve

Git gudder

[clever crag]

Worst raid in a long time

[obtuse copper]

[clever crag]

They kinda made me burnout on wow by creating all the Fomo versions of the game

[quasi torrent]

pov modern gaming

cant wait for gacha in wow

[ornate eagle]

See I just don't give a shit about anything that isn't retail

Lot slower burn that way

[clever crag]

I only gave a fuck about OG classic 2019

before it became a gdkp fuckfest

[olive nest]

Same here dude the launch/leveling/pre raid bis gearing part of classic 2019 was peak

After that it completely died for me

[clever crag]

Yeah the classic andies ruined it by min maxxing everything

[fresh spire]

Was this confirmed after. I heard ballaiar or what ever his name was say it

Bellular

[ornate eagle]

Yes blizz confirmed it weeks ago

That the rotation of raids will continue until pre-patch

[dire hinge]

I’m just finding other goals to achieve in the meantime

[thick kelp]

[dire hinge]

Cursed larodar tech: turns out if you taunt him the final phase, you can get the tank circle and allllllll of that leeched health counts as HPS

Need to do that next rotation

[olive nest]

[clever crag]

Healing kekerino

[hidden bough]

thats… interesting

[olive nest]

The most coolest flex ofc

[dire hinge]

The hardest part is taking damage consistently 😦 were absurdly tanky atm and our health bar doesn’t move even if we stand in tank mechanics

[clever crag]

Indeed

[copper summit]

so i saw someone double shoot the ballista in NOK first boss how do u do that?

[dull siren]

All my logs r all over the place from delisted logs

[dire hinge]

🎉 hell yeah

[dull siren]

Have council r1

622k

[dire hinge]

Sir there is no way in hell you did 622k HPS

[gaunt owl]

Tmy is chasing the number

dpsvore

shameless

[dire hinge]

Smh

[dull siren]

622k dps

while ducked

swag

[dire hinge]

Imagine dps parsing

Couldn’t be me

[gaunt owl]

he gets all the PI

illegal doping

[dull siren]

Imagine if you showed up to raid

You'd have PI when Partyfish plays SV Hunter

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/xgrt1MwC6dRHKBqW#fight=29&type=damage-done

@dire hinge

[dire hinge]

Why you linking me damage done

[dull siren]

Have a lot of logs just spread all over the place

[dire hinge]

I posted healing logs

[dull siren]

HEALING

[dire hinge]

Show me your HPS

[dull siren]

PogO

I'm not a healer

[dire hinge]

Not with that attitude

(ilu tmy)

[dull siren]

healers heal

and complain about my BSL uptime

@gaunt owl talkin about illegal doping he doesn't know the Nyume incident from this reclear @dire hinge

quickest 15stacker or?

[gaunt owl]

Nymue is such a cursed fight for Arms

[dire hinge]

Takin too many line stacks?

[dull siren]

Bro I had 15 stack signet

@ 1:15

[gaunt owl]

Bozo thats how it is 😄

[dire hinge]

Haha oh no

[gaunt owl]

once you reach 15 it do this

[dire hinge]

That’s beautiful and haunted

[gaunt owl]

gonna go look at the logs

[dull siren]

Just like stack the trinket or?

[gaunt owl]

ok Mr Watch had a really shitty proc rng

[umbral wing]

do you guys think that arms will have a rework till the next exp ? everybody that is trying TWW arms says it's bad

[gaunt owl]

its just the same gameplay mostly

people say bad sometimes due to number or bad influence

like Petko tierlist

question people never ask themself is do i enjoy the gameplay or not

[dire hinge]

If we are bad then I’ll feel good when I’m above the better specs on the charts

[teal fossil]

if i can play an auto attack only spec that lets me top dam

ill do it

[reef glade]

isn’t that dh

[misty bridge]

[zealous pivot]

family

i have question

to reflect squal buffet

do you have to take an auto

?

seeking professional help

[rare kite]

you have to take the knockback hit, don't remember the name of the ability

[zealous pivot]

right thats the squal

but my tank is telling me i can run out and taunt

and not take melee

[rare kite]

no, the big reflect is after the knockback

[zealous pivot]

i think i seen a video where u get both in one reflect though

[rare kite]

no

[zealous pivot]

@daring heron

its in here somewhere

i just dont know if it was fury channel or arms

[rare kite]

you can reflect the knockback, but then you don't get the big reflect

[zealous pivot]

hmmge

[rare kite]

i promise you, critcake directly takes the knockback. on higher keys they sac him and shit, so that he can reflect the big hit

[zealous pivot]

ok ty

[sharp moss]

is there a good 2nd trinket i can get from bullion for M+ since i can't get a puzzle box to drop

i have been dabbling with signet brand but i hate obsessing over not losing stacks

it is contributing to my brain rot

i am already running an oce

[copper summit]

banging my head against the desk. my key went from 15>10 because ppl cant get the incorp

[steel furnace]

@sharp moss Maybe Whispering Incarnate Icon

I found pocket anvil alright as well

[sharp moss]

augury any good? i was also thinking about pocket anvil but i kinda want to stop stressing out over whether or not we're pulling fast enough lol

[steel furnace]

I dont think it is for arms, i ran it couple times at 535 ilvl, was disappointed to be honest

[sharp moss]

is icon only good if other people are also running icon in your group? 2 of my friends are running OCE so it feels more worth

[steel furnace]

Well it would be a lot better if you had the other stats, but it would just be a stat stick if you dont want to worry about anything

[sharp moss]

fair

have you tried the nelth trinket at all?

if that one's no good i guess i'll just get a pocket anvil

[rare kite]

nelth trinket very good, will kill you in higher keys some point tho

[steel furnace]

I tried it but not at max ilvl

[sharp moss]

brain rot from signet brand is getting me killed already

i think i'll give the nelth trinket a try

at least i'll die happy

[rare kite]

what key level are you pushing? it prob won't kill you until like 15-16 keys

i don't really push keys myself, so not entirely sure on what keystone level it will make things one shot you

[sharp moss]

nothing high at all, just 10-12's at most since we're messing around on alts

just tww waiting room

[hazy flower]

It is/was a bug and apparently not consistent

Where boss channeled it on himself after reflecting the initial hit

[rare kite]

oh ye then go for nelth, no problem at all then

[sharp moss]

ty ty ❤️

[zealous pivot]

i was using nelths in like 16s it wasnt a problem except hoi

[copper summit]

i got a question when running keys with augs i feel like doing crap dps and somoene to said look in logs to see if its my dps the problem or aug. what am i looking for in logs?

[untold trench]

Rotational mistakes, ragecap, delayed CD usage, those kind of things.

Also, your DPS wouldn't become more crap dps if you run with an aug. As even a bad Aug should, well, aug you somewhat.

Throw your logs into #449510248579858432 with an explanation for what you are looking for, and I am certain someone will figure out what is going on

[zealous pivot]

isnt rage cap kinda unavoidable as arms?

[copper summit]

cool ty ty i think i feel like im doing worse dmg is becasue the boss fights are longer

[potent cedar]

I get significantly worse parses if I play with an aug, I swear it attributes more damage to them than it should

[dire hinge]

Pre-execute phase yeah, we swim in it.

[copper summit]

I have a question next week every raid is awakened my guild thinks we can do 4 bosses awakened in each raid and we will get 8 vault slot?

Is that true or no

[dire hinge]

we'll find out next week, but yeah probably

[copper summit]

I would think you have to pick and whatever you pick that last for the week

[dire hinge]

lockouts are per-raid, i dont think they have the ability to tell if you entered one and block you from the others

i could be wrong there, but i haven't seen anything to indicate it would work that way

[frigid lava]

no more bullion drop?

[copper summit]

Only 12 max idk if that includes the 2 weekly

[frigid lava]

oh...

i have one left 😢

[steel furnace]

Why cap it, everyones basically BiS

I just want that fuckin mount

[frigid lava]

I have one left because i got the mount

[copper summit]

How many for the mount if not a lot run lfr, normal and heroic on a alt and you get them all

[frigid lava]

ah yea

but i don't do alt :'0

[grand idol]

make an alt real quick and get some bullions

[rare kite]

what mount can you get for bullions?

[grand idol]

As you type it

lol

The slime cat

[frigid lava]

its meh

but its something

[rare kite]

ah, already have that from sl. assuming it's the same one

[grand idol]

it is

[frigid lava]

wanted to get the cloak so i could get to 530... but 529.8 is where i end in this expansion

[reef glade]

@boreal quartz who says arms isnt a p1 spec

[boreal quartz]

What kinda unholy crit %

[reef glade]

[boreal quartz]

Brother

Bro i have this sark P3 from 5 weeks ago at uh 670 after coming up

600 if you just go for the phase

[reef glade]

trying with all my might to kill this boss...

not attacking adequately...

[boreal quartz]

I hope we one night today

[reef glade]

how is two roars have only 31 hits of the dot

why would it be an odd number

one of the roars just randomly had 1 less tick than the other

im being robbed?

[boreal quartz]

Wait im on holiday sunday

Yipiee

[boreal quartz]

Hasted in bl idk

(prolly not)

[reef glade]

yea maybe

[rare kite]

Wafting proc?

[reef glade]

any combo of that n lust ig idk

and also pi teehee :3

https://tenor.com/view/tongue-out-gif-10899711823759253871

[boreal quartz]

I genuinely dont know if it being hasted makes it gain ticks lmao

I just press it

[rare kite]

It does

[boreal quartz]

I just press it

[boreal quartz]

Look how smart i an for figuring out his issue chatting

[rare kite]

Real

[latent moss]

arms pi goes hard af

in aoe

in m+ i mean

and on st in exe

[rare kite]

yee, i got PI on rasz p3 with lust. holy moly

[boreal quartz]

Someday i get p1, but i cba set up the macro

[rare kite]

you have a macro? i never really get PI, but when i do it's in execute with lust so no macro needed

[boreal quartz]

Our guild does ye

You either get sp pi

Or you press macro to request healer pi

[rare kite]

huh, interesting

[boreal quartz]

The macro makes a wa for the healer pop

[reef glade]

@boreal quartz we did it

[boreal quartz]

So they get a Highlight on raid frame n shit

[reef glade]

p3 dmg moment

[boreal quartz]

10:50 goat

[rare kite]

[boreal quartz]

Large

[reef glade]

didnt get fatal mark on third shield

[boreal quartz]

Gz

[reef glade]

2 dps dead phase 2

thought it was joever

guess them staying dead for p3 helped

[rare kite]

rasz is such a good arms fight

[reef glade]

bruh

this mm hunter in my raid

is an absolute fiend

[boreal quartz]

P2 is weird without autumn

[reef glade]

first intermission dmg and he's on my side

[boreal quartz]

If you wanna send anything on i1

Cuz of jank p1

[reef glade]

thats what i have to compete against

[boreal quartz]

Get zoinked

Not like ur padding much on arm

[reef glade]

no but i could do more

[boreal quartz]

Purely sending boss well is basically free 95+

[reef glade]

like im psure they're dead by the time roar hit half duration

[boreal quartz]

Ideally send him blue and never get healer absorb

And drop healer

Send boss home in 8 mins

[rare kite]

been a long time since i did rasz, like 16 months ago or something. in i1 i just smashed the red guy

[reef glade]

ya i mean i am a red man too

but like ideally i would b able to roar first and third set of adds

but just do not live long enough to roar 3rd set

so its w/e

still decent on boss shield

maybe better

[boreal quartz]

Red gud

Ideally id wanna ava roar adds 1 and roar

[reef glade]

bow spec

classic gamer

[boreal quartz]

But we phase p1 weirdly

[reef glade]

we phase at like 2min

but i just hold second ava

[boreal quartz]

So either I hold end use in p1

[reef glade]

cuz boss phase early asf

ya

[boreal quartz]

I send it usually

Ill try hold tonight ig

[reef glade]

yea i mean u hold

and then u get first adds

then first shield

[boreal quartz]

Yep

[reef glade]

and second one partially comes up second shield

a little

unless youre me

and my raid just randomly burns 2nd shield in 10 sec

but then hold for big aoe pad set

giga

[boreal quartz]

We Phase weird so I sent it into i2 big add

[reef glade]

[boreal quartz]

Cuz I hate that phase and want it dead

And my raid is padlords

So i just ww lego smallies

[reef glade]

ava roar leggo

[boreal quartz]

Mm again

Lolmoa

[reef glade]

always there

pally boss damage king

[boreal quartz]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dy4FzKmwAbaq6g9k#fight=22&type=damage-done&target=300

Ok u won by 14k but this is 3 week old log xd

[reef glade]

:3

[boreal quartz]

I attack tonight surely

[reef glade]

massive attack

dw so long as you dont have a padveshan in your group and you just like 1:1 copy cds probably ez victory

also assuming yknow u get a fat mark on third shield

thatd be cool

[boreal quartz]

Or have tank with old wa that does /y (Red Text) positive

Which is the blue mark

So i run into him and die cuz im also red

Easy allstars since first dathea reclear since week 1

[rare kite]

grey logs own

[boreal quartz]

I got many of em

[rare kite]

in aberrus i got only grey logs on sark

[lethal stream]

guys who can sim my warrior which one jem best for me?

[eternal vortex]

i can do it for ya if u need

[lucid schooner]

one question, shattering throw still works against incorporeal?

[frigid lava]

I think u mean the other one.

Incorporeal is one you have to cc dispell heal.... I think

[paper gulch]

Afflicted is the one that requires healing.

[urban marten]

Hey guys. Is arms more damage in M+ then fury?

[frigid lava]

potentially esp with more targets

[urban marten]

I pump pretty hard as fury, but I feel like I could do more as arms

[frigid lava]

The season is about to be over... in like 1~2 weeks

try new thing for fun

I'm tanking low M+s for fun

[copper summit]

anyoine know how to fix this

[vital mulch]

Don't somehow get 0.6-0.9 score

😄

[untold trench]

Contact the site and complain, till they fix it

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-elf-anime-elf-frieren-anime-tony-stark-gif-10057622586626618982

[boreal quartz]

@reef glade i hit it into called wipe

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[boreal quartz]

i did troll hard

i think i lego shield 2

[reef glade]

yes

and then adds

[boreal quartz]

but i sent it into no shield and shield 3

briandead

[reef glade]

r u pullin now or that from a bit ago

[boreal quartz]

now

last pull

@reef gladei got ran into on shield 3

[reef glade]

[boreal quartz]

i had semi lineup

no TOM but still

[sacred light]

Hi guys, just about to return to wow for the prepatch, is there any info if it's possible to play colossus arms without any bleed? really hate bleeds

[woven wasp]

you can play anything you want but it wont be whats best

[mild hound]

I thought about playing arcane mage, then I looked at the wowhead guide…man…they got rotation guide flow charts just for the opener! Warrior feels good again

Zug zug

[devout pewter]

Arcane Mage will be A LOT simpler in tww. In my opinion it's simpler than frost and fire.

Current arcane is just a mess

Mage will be definitely an early 80 char after warrior, besides priest for me 😄

[copper summit]

sad the last week of pushing warriors cant do anything aginst incorp 😦

[latent moss]

[Greater Ember of Fyr'alath]

[steel furnace]

Grats

[dire hinge]

tuck it in the bank so you can look back fondly upon it

[latent moss]

ye have one in the bag

back from like january

will keep it forever

to remind myself

[boreal quartz]

[Greater Ember of Fyr'alath]

[thick kelp]

[Greater Ember of Fyr'alath]

[misty bridge]

[Greater Ember of Fyr'alath]

[gaunt owl]

[Greater Ember of Fyr'alath]

[clever crag]

Cant wait to drop the terrible lego

[thick kelp]

and replace it with demolish

[latent moss]

lovely

[old urchin]

Why Blizz. Just why.

[untold trench]

They should make demo also consume all bleeds, gaining 10 dam amp per each consumed

Suddenly arms funnel godly

[gaunt owl]

Arms cant have a dmg profile

Its Execute shit niche

[gaunt owl]

Sounds like SKs with extra step

[untold trench]

Nah, cause it doesn't send the DoT dam - it mods the col dam

But sure, add SK on it as well

[chilly mulch]

Is leggo still relevant in prepatch?

[boreal quartz]

ye

[vital mulch]

Will prob stick around for a few lvls in TWW

[wheat whale]

if urs is 535 it'll probably be almost to 80 is my guess

[upbeat pelican]

That's hours into the TWW release :)

[wheat whale]

which last I checked is past pre-patch!

[upbeat pelican]

100% true :)

[hollow pulsar]

What do I need to do dragonride in nkhud on my fresh 60 alt?

[boreal quartz]

click the df tab on your minimap and set the flying talents

[hollow pulsar]

dont have that

[boreal quartz]

did you do the intro questline

to get to df

[hollow pulsar]

not on this char

[boreal quartz]

thats prolly it

do the steps in sw/org till you get to take the zep

[hollow pulsar]

thats so stupid

[boreal quartz]

yea

only way i can think of fixing it though

[hollow pulsar]

Okay, got it

thanks

[drowsy charm]

Hey guys 👋 question from a newer Warrior player: I'm noticing that the Arms rotation in ST is kind of.. simple?

I feel like with other classes there's more stuff I can do to min-max, whereas with Arms it feels like if I just follow the basic priority, I'm already doing all I can. Is there perhaps something I'm missing here? Some extra layer of complexity?

[woven wasp]

youre not missing anything

ms>op>tc is like the whole thing pmuch

[boreal quartz]

chargeweaving formerly

but mainly just good melee macro

[drowsy charm]

I'm kind of comparing it to Fire Mage, where you have stuff like Feel The Burn, where you can kind of min-max, or MM Hunter playing with Steady Focus, etc.

There's none of those little things to reap rewards for mastering the spec?

[boreal quartz]

if you look at log review channel plenty still manage to mess it up

@drowsy charmwell TOM+Fatal mark stuff

but thats nieche

[drowsy charm]

Hmmm

[boreal quartz]

matters on raz a lot

does like 12 mil if you do it right

[sacred zodiac]

does it ??

[drowsy charm]

Yeah, looking at #449510248579858432, I get a better idea of where complexity comes from

[sacred zodiac]

in s4??

[boreal quartz]

you get the pop into shield

for dam so ye

cuz u just slam ww n shit before shield

[sacred zodiac]

popping fatality into shield sounds illegal

[boreal quartz]

its pad dam sir

need pad dam

[drowsy charm]

So in terms of rotation execution, what is it that usually causes a DPS difference between Warriors of similar ilevel but different skill?

[boreal quartz]

crit

also having wft

like its not hard but you still need to just play right

[drowsy charm]

wft?

[boreal quartz]

windfury totem from an enha shaman

[drowsy charm]

Ohhh

[drowsy charm]

What is the most common stumbling block?

[boreal quartz]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j2QhezrhoXt6Fr86iTCMEZ wft
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rXnqsSHSEEBDXwU3vMv5TG no wft

FUN FUCKING EXTERNAL

[sacred zodiac]

i mean idk this is near impossible to diagnose because arms legit just is a prio spec that has like 4 buttons lol

pressing weird shit in execute and just not pressing buttons is the biggest downfall

[boreal quartz]

and being a weirdo and running out of melee

(not being a good melee)

[reef glade]

use defensives offensively to keep bsl up in cds

[outer holly]

For arms aoe gets a little convoluted, that and nailing down the openers and the different prios from ST to aoe, and if aoe how many targets and so on

[latent moss]

ms casts

[dreamy egret]

so incorporeal is going away next expansion right?

[latent moss]

yes

rejoice!

[green vault]

is it ok If i dont run tier set?

on arms

like what is the percent increase of damage I will lose

[wheat whale]

A LOT

[latent moss]

massive

its so much of ur damage

[grand idol]

why would you not though? For like timewalking or something?

[green vault]

well

i want to run full crit mastery

for pvp

just as a test

like I want to try running 30%-28% vers

and the rest crit mastery

and all the tier peices have haste on the

them

I could run helmet and legs

[grand idol]

I see.

Are we are getting the first hero talent with prepatch or not until some unlock in TWW?

[teal fossil]

Optimizing stats is very little gain

Compared to borrowed power like tier

[arctic iris]

My dude, you are wildly overestimating the difference between different secondary stats. Even in PvP, the change you would see from having haste on every single piece as opposed to zero pieces is a drop in the bucket compared to your four piece

The only stat where stacking it would make that big of a difference is versatility, and only in terms of survivability

Also, the four piece gives huge amounts of crit

[green vault]

yea i logged off war

awful class

i mean why play warrior over ret, or dh, or asas, or ww or feral

[thick kelp]

[teal fossil]

good job

you can ditch 4 piece on those other classes instead

[teal fossil]

is the pvp 40% vers buff still a thing

[woven wasp]

No

[reef glade]

cuz its better

[dire hinge]

follow your own fun

[high lichen]

'Morning ! zugzug fella ! I have a (maybe dumb) question. the rage generated from charge is generated on hit or on cast ? the point is if i pop avatar, which pop recklessness, right after charge (so during travel) will i benefit from the 100% extra rage generation ? or should i pop ava first ? (and sorry BTW for my english... 😬 )

[thick kelp]

if you are asking for opener just follow this pic in order, the rage from charging inside reck is irrelevant anw

[high lichen]

first, TYVM ! and it's also for understanding the mech, because for example fury do pop reck before charge to benefit the extra rage gen.

i mainly play prot, but i'm quite curious about that (i mean it wont prevent me from sleeping tight, but was wondering 🙃 )... i'm not a gamer, but i like to fully understand what i'm doing... and i dont get that point 😬

but i totaly agree it will be irrelevant with my gameplay 😆

Oh ! i guess i found my answer ! Hrothmar wrote this i year ago #arms message

[sacred zodiac]

idk you shouldnt be pressing avatar so early either way

if you have legendary you wanna use that first and then roar if you avatar before any of these two you legit waste like a full 3 seconds of avatar reck uptime

its not like you will run out of rage either way recklessness will cap out your rage in one swing

[wary raft]

And just as a little note make sure you get to the target before pressing legendary. If you charge and immediately press legendary before reaching your target, then the channel will be canceled

[clever crag]

Cuz alpha

All those specs you named are sadly beta

[vocal solar]

Tbh only arms is alpha

Fury even is teenager spec

[quasi torrent]

me when the the parry

[sacred zodiac]

uninstall

[olive nest]

[latent hull]

[latent hull]

[dire hinge]

👋 howdy, I can confirm that information should not be used from my original post

[olive nest]

Guys I found a post that says to use focused rage 3 times between mortal strikes but I don’t see it in my spell book what is that?

[dire hinge]

Spongie is right, in Arm's current state you shouldn't avatar pre/mid charge.
Fury does it because they are actively building rage towards a goal (gain enough to cast Rampage), while Arms doesn't need to worry about up-front rage generation. We cast Avatar after lego (or upon reaching the target, if you dont have lego) because we dont' want dead GCDs inside of Avatar if we can avoid it

[high lichen]

Thx to both of you ! i get the whole point besides not poping avatar before leggo, i do already pop leggo before ava anyway, but my question was trully to understand from a mechanical POV (and curiosity wise) how those two spells would interact regarding rage generation depending on when i press it.

[boreal quartz]

@visual fern putting dstance on the defensives highkey carries

so you glance and dont forget it if ur dumb as bricks like me

[visual fern]

I just have jiggle text

[boreal quartz]

not even abt not being in it

but remembering to go into it

[visual fern]

Oh

[boreal quartz]

like i can see im in it just fine

but i used to hide it when it was off cd and not on

[visual fern]

At some point I had the skill icon for def/battle on my lower bar

[boreal quartz]

which leads to late dstance which is just troll

[visual fern]

Dead center

Not sure if I kept it

[boreal quartz]

i need to recook for TWW tbh

[visual fern]

Yah between clap and leap

[dire hinge]

i just type /cast defensive stance in chat any time i need it on

[boreal quartz]

i think some cds might go lower

or trinkets move

[visual fern]

Same but in morse

[boreal quartz]

double onuse is so wide as a bar man

like itll tickle the unit frame

[visual fern]

Yeah you dont need all that shit up there lmao

[waxen elbow]

The one thing i hate about Atrocity UI in DF is how fucking long the primary bar is

[boreal quartz]

this is homecooked unfortunately

[waxen elbow]

Yeah but same kinda style

[visual fern]

Its just lazy on his end cuz he doesn't need to move shit down for himself therefore doesn't package it like that

[boreal quartz]

xerwo has trinkets here which kinda works ig

[waxen elbow]

I might fuck around with it and move some longer CDs down and shit

[waxen elbow]

Yeah

[boreal quartz]

ye every good ui is kinda similar lol