#arms

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wheat whale
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i really hope arms isn't too bad in tww its been fun so far but im prepping a 2nd class just incase 💀

reef glade
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idk the meme dooming aside i think its fine enough dmg wise currently

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just more of the same "wah nothing to spend rage on" moment

outer holly
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The #1 complaint I had to address in S3 for fury was people running out of rage

reef glade
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them mfs not hitting bt enough chatting

outer holly
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And arms is often in a bit of a tizzy over the "cosmetic" nature of our rage bar

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Just sayin, we're always gonna find a way to doom

wheat whale
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🫡 understood

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bit annoyed after trying to play my hardest during my heroic raid slog only to find that one fight was logged

outer holly
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That just sounds like your classic pug experience

wheat whale
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4 hours for 4 bosses cycling between 100s of people?

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yea

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is it always this bad or just because it's season 4/end of expac?

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because nobody even tries to improve with a group despite it being totally possible to beat bosses if people didn't quit instantly

outer holly
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normally the pugs will struggle on the final 2/3 bosses, and maybe the halfway boss in the first couple weeks

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I honestly can't pug this season

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Every single experience has been painful, my mental can't take it

wheat whale
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its only doable for me because I haven't done any of these raids before I've played for like 3 weeks LMFAO

calm hare
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does sweeping strikes do anything for Cleave?

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(in aoe packs, should i be MSing during SS? say 4 targets)

reef glade
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no affect cleave yes better to ms with sweep at that many targets

calm hare
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okay gottcha ty

calm hare
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I find it rly awkward to use Bladestorm in ST (for dungeon bosses, where we are in m+ build), but i've understood it is to be used prior to Warbreaker and CDs? Anyone able to give me a sample sequence of how opener in ST with bs should look?

slow saddle
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charge ms bs

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or well

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Charge MS _ roar - bs then ham

frigid lava
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I'm like 43 39 38 20

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I dunno... 529... just doing +8s... don

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don't care anymore

gaunt owl
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I GOT PARRIED ON CS BECAUSE THIS GAME IS DESIGN BY IDIOT

frigid lava
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Is there any other class that get so much penalty from "parry" or "dodge" ?

gaunt owl
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you can see where i got parried

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wasnt even in front

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just being on the side of the boss was enough because its a shit mecanic

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outdated

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and anybody defending that are idiot

opal folio
untold trench
calm hollow
boreal remnant
calm hollow
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Other fun parry is when the 1st auto attack gets parried, and you dont have any rage

gaunt owl
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@calm hollow

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because this game really fucking sux

wheat whale
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parried ur roar?

gaunt owl
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yep its parriable

wheat whale
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wtf 💀

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that doesn't even make sense

opal folio
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“Adds texture”

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That’s what they said about it iirc?

wheat whale
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i'll add some fkin texture...

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how rude!

sacred zodiac
calm hollow
gaunt owl
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blizzard made it possible

reef glade
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i think ive had odyns parried before

timber lynx
nova wigeon
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hey! im trying to put together a cast sequence macro for my rotation, does anyone know of a video i can watch to start writing one? or even have one i can use to get started?

reef glade
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i dont think those work like... a majority of the time

nova wigeon
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🤦‍♂️ thats what i was afraid of

calm hollow
nova wigeon
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🫡

boreal quartz
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that rat horse man

boreal quartz
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making that macro useless

midnight mural
latent moss
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u can put ur own apl in it

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it just follows the apl

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but it isnt good cause u need to tag multiple mobs for it to realize u are in an aoe situation for example

ivory cipher
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I have what I believe are some basic questions about Arms rotation gameplay (Yes I have read FAQs, WoWhead guides, and watched Youtube videos)

Specifically for Mythic+ AoE build

  1. Do I ever Bladestorm on Single Target bosses or never hit it on Single Target?
  2. Do I always get 2 stacks of Executioner's Precision before hitting Mortal Strike, even if Mortal Strike is available? (Ex, Ex, MS always during Ex phase?)
  3. Do I still Mortal Strike while talented into Cleave? As they are separate abilities. Such as 4+ targets, I am primarily hitting Cleave, but would I also Mortal Strike or save rage for TC or WW instead?
  4. One of my talents reduces the cooldown of Avatar with Rage spent. Should I save Avatar to line up with Warbreaker when it comes off early, or should I just hit it on cooldown?

Here is one example log from a RLP +4. https://wowanalyzer.com/report/j3z98nAavcDbqY2Q/1-Mythic++Ruby+Life+Pools+-+Kill+(21:44)/Raxor/standard

The logs seem inconclusive because I was prioritizing Cleave over Mortal Strike in AoE situations, leading to more confusion. I also died twice on 2nd boss due to tank not tanking the add.

gaunt owl
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yeah we dont use wowanalyzer

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its yes to the first 3 questions

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the fourth one you mean CS gets his CD reduced

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not avatar

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and its send it on CD

ivory cipher
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Is there a similar site to WoWanalyzer that we do use or just manual log review on warcraftlogs?

quartz cedar
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good morning Skyhold!

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so i got a myth track enduring dreadplate. That looks like a tank trinket to me, but Bloodmallet has it listed as one of the best DPS 5 target+ trinkets

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is that for real?

livid cloak
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Did you sim it?

quartz cedar
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yes

livid cloak
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And how did it sim

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Do you have the sim link

quartz cedar
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doesnt beat my current trinkets. im just curious why bloodmallet even lists it

livid cloak
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Bloodmallet is kind of a trap

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Uses generic profiles for simming

slow saddle
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i mean it prob is rad but requires ppl to hit u no?

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and sim doesnt like creatures hit u

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23

copper summit
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lol wtf im 3240 I.o dps and im tanking 10 so i can get 3k as tank as well and i got declined

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I got declined from a 8

ivory cipher
slow saddle
copper summit
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Nah I was in that q for an invite and they just declined me 😦

sacred zodiac
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nothing arms should care about though you have better choices

quartz cedar
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thanks for the insight. i do like the trinkets i have already but wanted to make sure i wasnt leaving dps on the table.

sacred zodiac
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it might? be better in some scenarios but theres a reason its p much not played in m+

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russian king used rageheart in a halls

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powerful

copper summit
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I can see that because of 3rd boss just kills

sacred zodiac
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idk if he is russian actually just the log is

copper summit
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Does he use the shield neck? As well

dire hinge
copper summit
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wtf why use rage heart on av?

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Only thing I can think of is 1st boss

hallow turtle
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Does SS apply the CS debuff to a second target?

boreal quartz
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yes

grand idol
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when the game subtly lets you know it hates you.

lament sigil
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fuck this dogshit game

hexed saddle
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fuck this stupid chungus life

reef glade
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fuck this stupid chungus life

copper summit
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I feel like I’m doing really good till I look at logs of top dmg and then mine.. 100k diff from mine and top dmg in rashok mythic

steel furnace
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Kill time no?

copper summit
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6:21

steel furnace
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Number one log they killed in 4 minutes so

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Cant really compare

copper summit
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Oo that makes me feel better

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Is there a way I can see who killed the boss in same time or area of time

wheat whale
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On logs u can look through times based on boss and spec i think?

copper summit
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That’s what I thought. Prob can see better on computer but just got off and on my phone

steel furnace
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Close to 6min kill, had to scroll a lot though, top logs are basically all 4mins

dire hinge
copper summit
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Ok I’m not that far off

copper summit
dire hinge
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Its good for doing a check-in with yourself, while top logs is more aspirational / ideal scenarios

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For most players*

sullen zealot
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I've been struggling lately to push my damage in m+ to the next level, or in other words i feel a bit stuck and i think it's cause im stuck in the past with my priorities in rotation, so i wanted to ask some relatively quick (or so i hope) questions. I appreciate any input on them:
-If warbreaker is about to come out, but i have a bunch of rage, should i whirlwind or save it for the warbreaker window?
-If i have no overpower charges and all other spenders on cd, should i cleave with 0-1 charges or slam? (assume 5+ targets i guess)
-If i have no rage to hit cleave but 2 stacks of overpower buff, should i still overpower?
-If bladestorm+warbreaker is coming up in 10ish seconds, should i sweeping strikes to get max uses but waste some, wait to get more value in buff windows or delay the cds?
-How worried should i be about overcapping rage in AoE? As i understand its more rotational damage vs more cdr on significant cds

I understand its quite a bit, even one or two being responded is something i'd be thankful for and sorry if this is a bit much to just put in there

copper summit
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Honestly I threw slam out of my bars.

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For the 3rd you should always have rage for that cleave ? Idk how your not

sullen zealot
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It's honestly most of the time a whirlwind/thunder clap while i've had to move out of melee for a mechanic

copper summit
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What lvl keys your doing?

sullen zealot
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Honestly not that high right now, i don't like pugging and my guildies have all outclassed me so they won't bring me to their +17-18s but i tend to do up to +14 for now

copper summit
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In m+ it’s hard to judge your dmg against others. When I’m in 15s my tank pulls big so I’m non stop doing 800k~1mil dps however when I put 10s or 8 with friends I just cry

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For me I never paid attention to rage as well so I just threw wb whenever. All my cd I never hold unless the adds about to die

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😦 I didn’t help really sorry I feel like I just made it worse lol

obsidian topaz
obsidian topaz
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If you have no OP charges. I use TC to try and get a charge back. If TC and ww are on CD and there’s s bunch of targets I’ll cleave

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I hold sweeping until after bladestorm if it’s only 10s out

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I don’t think these changes will drastically alter your DPS btw, but a lot of times people in here will just tell you it doesn’t matter, so I tried to answer. They may not be the right answer, it’s just what I do. I’m like 3250 or something so there’s my 50c

sullen zealot
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I agree none of these changes will alter my dps drastically, but i feel like i'm at the point in which every other mistake i make is relatively obvious to me so the ones where i'm not sure kinda put a bit of burden on my mind, and even more than the dps gain itself, it also just eliminates that doubt and lets me focus on what's important

boreal quartz
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Fix ur mog too

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Large damage increase

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And then just send send send send xan

neon river
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Just smash your keyboard harder

dire hinge
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Lmao thank you, have a good week!

boreal remnant
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I got a grey log on echo last night because I got like 3 hearts in a row critcake

copper summit
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How many days do yall mythic last boss killers raid a week

untold trench
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2-3 would prob be the avg, then you got some that do 4-5 till boss is dead, then reduce to 1. Depends on the guilds goals and how the people within it want to play it.

My prefered, is 1 to 2 days

swift crown
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0

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because expansion is over

untold trench
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And how many days, while ya still raided?

swift crown
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1 because it was the deepest of farms, 2 during prog

copper summit
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My guild does 2 a day normal seasons this season 1 day kill 4 bosses then done

gaunt owl
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my steam gift card

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<@&257983573498265600>

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we see too many of those these days

smoky kayak
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times are hard all around sadge everyone tryin to get their bag, even scammers

minor gust
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this is retail not classic cata

obsidian topaz
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i was like wtf are theses abilities haha

still tapir
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did they hotfix x2 breakers on av before 3rd boss ?

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they snap now

copper summit
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You mean invis wise?

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I did a skip on them this week tank pulls to left everyone rushed to the book and tank dies and we got mass ressed

hazy flower
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I snapped them by accident like 2 months ago with @ornate eagle

sullen zealot
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I currently have puzzlebox and call to chaos, but im starting to really feel the +5% dmg taken but i don't know what to replace it with for m+. OCE is not a good option since no one i run with has it, what's next on the board?

strange perch
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@vale cargo's a bitch

ornate eagle
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But pips is a good option aswell

sullen zealot
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I keep dying by under 10k damage with nelth active

sullen zealot
ornate eagle
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What are you dying to

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Full on 1shot or would you have died 1second later anyway

sullen zealot
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Generally 1-shot or close to

ornate eagle
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Then either you're not using your defensives enough

sullen zealot
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I keep dying at full hp through die by the sword, but i will concede i need to press def stance more

ornate eagle
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And ignore pain

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Spell reflect

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Those typa things

sullen zealot
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Oh yea those are nearly on perma cd in a lot of bosses and trash packs

ornate eagle
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What kinda keylevel we talking here

sullen zealot
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14-15

ornate eagle
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That's like 5 keylevels too low

ivory quartz
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There's nothing at that level that will 1 shot you through DbtS

ornate eagle
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To be 1shot through defensives

sullen zealot
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I can call the healer bad all i want

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Or i can try to survive better

ornate eagle
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Well yah

sullen zealot
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One's clearly more productive

ornate eagle
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But the 5% ain't gonna fix that

sullen zealot
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Fair, but it's been a bit too much lately

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Might just be coincidence

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But yea

ornate eagle
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Cuz I can straight up not use anything in 15s and will 100% live

ivory quartz
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But you're saying you're dying at full hp through DbtS, theres no healer involved here

dull siren
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👷

sullen zealot
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near full hp, im pretty sure i said, but yea fair

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Im being a bit vague which i apologize for

ornate eagle
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It's aight but ask yourself this

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If you're being honest

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How do people survive 20s

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And you get killed in 15s

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BTW 20s do 2x dmg that 15s do

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If you get hit for 500k in a 15, it's 1mil in a 20 from the same mechanic (roughly)

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So proper utilisation of defensives is key here

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If you can practice that, and pre-stack IP for the big hits, have SR for when it's needed

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And stance dance

ivory quartz
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NotEvenClose is your friend

ornate eagle
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You'll find yourself immortal in 15s!

untold trench
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Isnt there this .io site, that will allow you to pre-check if you can survive and what you need to use to survive?

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Easy way to check what you can do vs your problem

ornate eagle
ivory quartz
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dull siren
latent moss
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whats nelth trinket

ornate eagle
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One of my fav trinkets this xpac

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Its 30% overbudgeted

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(I still don't have it)

latent moss
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waiut which one

ornate eagle
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Brother

wheat whale
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neltharion's call to chaos

latent moss
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i thought

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nelth

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meant neltharus

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no

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i only know about spoils being busted

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back in s2 or w/e

ornate eagle
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That's casters only

latent moss
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ye ik thats why i was confused

rancid willow
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:*(

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Wrong character.

wheat whale
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at least u got the tmog! :D

rancid willow
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true.

grand idol
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ilvl 500. Massive

strange perch
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Yeah it's pretty shittu that even if it drops on a fated week, you still have to use the bullion to upgrade it to this seasons Ilvl

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And that's after you have to do a bunch of quests to even craft it

grand idol
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Luckily we're overflowing on bullions though

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Im about to buy the razegeth axe so i can get all the mogs through upgrading and save a couple on separate mog items.

charred brook
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i legit am sitting here not sure what to spend bullions on

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i have 3 extra

copper summit
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Get tank stuff that’s what I’m doing and now I’m trying to get 3k as a tank and prob get higher to match the dps

dusty summit
twilit tangle
rancid willow
sacred zodiac
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2 bullions to update it to the awakened track After which you pay with crests

rancid willow
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Ok great. I was scared for a moment

chilly mulch
strange perch
rancid willow
latent hull
strange perch
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now that i think about it, it was more punishing to not have it last season, so if you get it during fated it should be the new season ilvl

rancid willow
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I believe Im at 9 kills on my Warrior. Took me just 6 on my pally.

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but I didnt play DF at all until S4

boreal quartz
strange perch
boreal quartz
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That's how rwf splits work

strange perch
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if i make 20 warriors blizz better be giving me an OTPH

boreal quartz
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They arent lucky they just brute force an above average gear roll

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Sure it's only like 8 chars

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But that's a lot of effort

strange perch
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phil, i didnt even realize it was you!

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no psyduck pfp threw me off

frigid lava
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picking up random shit that I won't even use

boreal quartz
strange perch
boreal quartz
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No

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I just like the funny guy crawling through malls in a wizard costume

charred brook
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cant unsee the penis in phil pfp

latent moss
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phil leading with colossus arms for sure

dusty summit
strange perch
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in all honestly i think they did it this way because the evoker legendary is alot harder to even get

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its kinda hard to justify "well if i had to farm it last season, the players this season need to do the same"

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granted everyone who didnt have the lego were using bullion for ashkandur

dusty summit
stark cape
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How are people saying its only 15 kills for Guaranteed Legendary on heroic?

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I have 16 and no legendary.

strange perch
stark cape
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WDym? like statistics?

marble moss
reef glade
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pretty likely u just killed him multiple times in a week

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rio still tracks each one

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for instance i had like 30 kills of fyrakk listed in like 15 weeks of the season

strange perch
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RIO is a third party website, blizz goes off their in game counter

stark cape
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Yep

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16

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kekw

strange perch
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you got fucked then

stark cape
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Game hates me

strange perch
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how many of those kills are this season

reef glade
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yea in game statistic is not accurate either

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fyrakk has absolutely not been out for 93 weeks

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you just killed him a few repeat times in a week

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if u dont know how many its probably not "that many"

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so surely the next week or two

stark cape
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Do I still need to full clear or can I just skip and prayge

reef glade
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just skip

marble moss
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Where is it you see this count on Rio ?

reef glade
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lessers practically worthless

marble moss
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Please

reef glade
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u have to look at s3

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looks like it doesnt show for s4

stark cape
marble moss
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Doesn’t show a count for me

reef glade
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u cant look at awakened tiers

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it doesnt show up

stark cape
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Oh your on your phone

reef glade
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only for previous regular tiers

stark cape
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i have no idea on mobile

reef glade
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does not show counts for awakened bosses

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just non awakened ones

marble moss
stark cape
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😉

reef glade
# marble moss

thats prolly just mobile formatting shit go to landscape i imagine itd show up

strange perch
marble moss
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Could you quick check me Waroupince hyjal pls if you have a minute ?

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😂

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Im at work

reef glade
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checking.. what?

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says u've killed fyrakk twice ig?

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not including awakeneds

marble moss
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lol what

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I have at least 2 month so 8 kills

reef glade
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yea if u mean the last 2 months then thats all of season 4

marble moss
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Maybe 7 if it says 7 weeks ago

reef glade
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and idk how rio is like keeping track of those kills if it is at all

marble moss
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Ah

strange perch
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you have to check the stats for it in game, i was counting mine and with raider io it got all messed up

reef glade
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yea i mean my stats show 93 heroic kills

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which matches rio

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so idk if like awakened kills still bumps up the ingame and rio counter

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or if they're just not included at all

strange perch
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either that or he just needs to click the update button on RIO

opaque citrus
reef glade
strange perch
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thats only 11 weeks worth of bosses

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not even enough to get legendary

opaque citrus
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I thought he meant 93 heroic fyrakks

strange perch
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theres only 52 weeks in a year sir

reef glade
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huh

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no 93 fyrakks specifically

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posted the ss

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if it wasnt obvious from context clues maaany of those are repeat kills in the same week

strange perch
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93 fyrakks is imposible

reef glade
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which is what i told that other guy

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just because a number says one thing doesnt mean its accurate to the context of kills for leggo

copper summit
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u can dispell bolstering right?

reef glade
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except its not tho

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u just.. kill him multiple times a week lol

reef glade
strange perch
reef glade
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i wonder

strange perch
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doesnt do anything

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doesnt give anything

reef glade
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💰

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🪙

copper summit
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i swear u can mmmm i thought u could

reef glade
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ya i dont think ive ever heard of that

strange perch
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well we all know swordfish does rmt now critcake

reef glade
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hell naw

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money bag emoji must = real money

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thats why i followed up with the coin

strange perch
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is boosting like a job for you? im trying to understand

reef glade
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i mean idk just do like one or two extra lil things a week get some free moolah no real problem

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fyrakks also been out for like.. 30 weeks atp

strange perch
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idk i just buy gold

reef glade
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and that is your perogative of which there is no issue, but i just play game and get monies

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and like yea its not super fast

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but if ur not like down bad spending it builds up

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also nice to just play with higher rank ish ppl and to build up repertoires

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like im "chummy" with a guy in xD cause i do big dam in those runs

strange perch
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no i get it, i used to do boosting when i was bored during the pandemic.

reef glade
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but its just like idk an extra 2 or 3 hours out of your week if u got nothing else goin on

strange perch
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now days i just feel like i couldnt be bothered with it, especially in s4

reef glade
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do a nice easy little run thru the raid

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yea i mean just depends like i cant stand key boosting

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unless youre doing like fuckin idk 20's u will not find me spending 20+ minutes in a +8 for like 10k gold

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but raids i think are way more relaxed

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unless u run some horrendous ratio on fyrakk and then spend like 5 wipes on it critcake

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tindral and fyrakk on heroic are terrifying bosses when u are 15manning a boss scaled for 30 ppl

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5 million seeds critcakecritcakecritcakecritcake

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big fan of her

strange perch
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i honestly havent been the biggest fan of DF and i think thats where my issues lie, maybe in tww all of my love for the game will come back

reef glade
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tww will save wow

strange perch
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i mean the new zone looks cool, so thats a plus

reef glade
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yea its neat they like fully committing to exploring multi level terrain and shit

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zaralek cavern was just like tip of the ice berg

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now 3/4's of the new continent is underground

strange perch
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where ieven is the new zone at

reef glade
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kinda has that fun dungeon crawler feel u keep going deeper and deeper

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subnautica type shit

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idk like south east of kalimdor ish

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is where it'll be on map psure

strange perch
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ive been trying not to play beta so it remains some what of a surprise

reef glade
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its gettin a little silly now tho that every new wow xpac is just "new island in the middle of the ocean somewhere"

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idk next two are supposed to "revisit" old zones but not sure how they squeeze 4 new zones in like the bloodelf lands and northrend

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unless its just more underground shit but that'd probably get stale after a bit

wheat whale
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well tbf the isle of quel'danas and silvermoon are supposed to be fucking massive zones but they just weren't

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I expect it to go crazy

reef glade
limpid current
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if i currently use OCE and puzzlebox but want to replace puzzlebox for m+, which trinket should i go for? i'm having a tough time deciding (goal is to output consistent damage cross +13-15 keys both in pugs and premade)

strange perch
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puzzlebox is an M+ trinket

limpid current
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yes, but it's a bit hard with pugs 😦 thats why im looking to at least have a secondary option

strange perch
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maybe Augury

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but even then, itll be hard with pugs

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theres not really a pug proof trinket

limpid current
#

noted, appreciate your feedback! thank you!

gray steeple
#

Pips, though puzzle box still better.

strange perch
#

do yall run a WA for pips

limpid current
#

ooo thats a good one too! thank you @gray steeple !

sacred zodiac
strange perch
#

so you know when the proc is

sacred zodiac
#

ok but again what do you change about your playstyle when a passive stat boost procs

strange perch
#

you blow cds

gaunt owl
#

so you push your button that you would already be pushing

sacred zodiac
#

you hold cds for passive stat procs ???

woven wasp
#

yeah you do not hold cds for the perfect pip buff

ivory quartz
#

chatting hold chatting hoooooold chatting pips buff xan

strange perch
#

imagine not having cds for pips buff

sacred zodiac
#

cant pop yet despite pips buff being up

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wafting hasnt procced yet

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damn pips fell off

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gotta wait for the next overlap gg

strange perch
#

sounds like a shitty trinket to me

sacred zodiac
#

you should play aug and hold your cds for those procs

ivory quartz
#

i hold CS for avatar

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but like

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the whole time

#

dont wanna risk it :/

sacred zodiac
#

you should do it the other way around

#

iirc

hazy flower
#

with tom u dont need to

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iirc

#

at all

#

only with iftk (in m+)

gaunt owl
#

mplussers

sacred zodiac
#

what do u do with tom

strange perch
#

surprised people are still pushing right now tbh

wheat whale
#

i just started playing!

sacred zodiac
#

gamer

hazy flower
#

because u always have buff from either cs or tom

sacred zodiac
opaque citrus
swift crown
smoky kayak
#

man I would get so much more done T_T

wheat whale
#

crazy how my dps just keeps going up after buying a grieftorch

#

who woulda thunk it

strange perch
#

thunk

wheat whale
#

yes!

wheat whale
#

UNK

#

exactly!

copper summit
hazy flower
floral sierra
#

If you try eating anything with chopsticks it'll feel like you're actually in an Asian restaurant eating real asian food. It's all about the placebo. I use this method even when im drinking coffee or water. You just have to be quick to snatch those H2O molecules straight out of the cup and into your mouth, it requires a lot of skill, patience and precision.

strange perch
fossil thistle
#

Trying to explain to a friend the warrior ST flow chart. Does any one have an actual picture/drawing for it 😂

outer holly
#

It's funny, we have infographs for exe rotation and cleave/ms prio but I don't recall a st one

#

Ms > op > ww > tc, except inside of Tom ww takes prio, press all your CDs at the same time or on cd.

#

Just put funny pictures next to that and you're golden for the next 2 weeks when we're finally done with the purgatory season

reef glade
dull siren
#

+19 Bracken

#

I go FoB @visual fern

wheat whale
#

I'm really not very smart with macros, does anyone have a macro that'll be a one button swap between defensive and battle stance?

fossil thistle
#

Yea I explained it all in words but it’s one of those “reading hard picture please” kinda people lol

strange perch
#

William Knifeman

reef glade
#

also helps to accompany it with a weakaura that tells u if you’re in dstance as many a time have I just had that shit on without realizing

wheat whale
#

that makes sense

outer holly
fossil thistle
#

Wild question.
Anyone partially blind?
Potentially losing a eyeball and thinking of downsizing from 27” so I can view more 😂

copper summit
#

anyone know a good addon to hide addon icons around the map

woven wasp
#

Minimap button frame redux

boreal quartz
clever island
#

Does arms run double BSL in M+?

reef glade
#

but generally u get good enough use out of bsl going into a pack with full hp and ripping cds

tribal cliff
#

Is Dungeon Slice okay for arms or naw?

outer holly
#

its fine

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nothing much changes between the two other than trinkets and maybe swapping your haste/vers gems for vers/haste 90% of the time.

scenic umbra
#

rando question

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wanna get reputations up, is there any guide to check repu quests missing and stuff?

#

i only trust fellow browns

frigid lava
#

Hmmm... do things with "!"

weak rose
#

AllTheThings may help you on that

gray steeple
#

Check wowhead comments. Usually solid for rep farming.

chilly mulch
#

wowhead comments is basically the reason why im actually playing the game instead of being hard stuck on some intro

strange perch
#

wowhead comments are like PH comments, they give no fucks

opaque citrus
#

Wowhead comments are unhinged weirdos or the equivalent of some Indian guy teaching you math on YouTube

hallow turtle
#

If CS gets parried does that also mean you lose the ToM that goes with it?

livid cloak
#

Yep

frigid lava
#

I got mine parried at smolderon most often

livid cloak
#

Cs getting parried should cause an automatic reset of your pc

#

Cs getting parried should cause an automatic reset of your pc

frigid lava
#

Now I'm pretty careful lol

hushed quail
#

Classic opener of arms
first AA parried
First CS parried
First Troar parried

olive nest
#

Cs parry is honestly such dogshit

#

Shouldn’t be possible

hushed quail
#

Project remove parry 2025

frigid lava
#

Make Warrior Great Again

outer holly
#

I'd argue the first aa parry actually feels worse than cs

gaunt owl
#

its always a shitty feeling

#

negative dopamine

outer holly
#

My finger is there, hovering over ms as I charge in, but alas, ms never comes

gaunt owl
#

Apply forehead to keyboard

#

much better gameplay experience

reef glade
#

amirdrassil hard sadga

boreal quartz
#

tell me bout it

#

i missed 2 full clears xdd

#

3 and 2 on top is this raid xdding

reef glade
#

only killed last 3 once so far... keks

chilly mulch
chilly mulch
quasi torrent
strange perch
swift crown
quasi torrent
#

ez for bdk

copper summit
#

2 weeks of trying to get my key to a ulda 14-15 or getting invited to one ...ughh

strange perch
tribal cliff
#

I'm going crazy trying to figure out what to buy with my next bullion. I do pugs so nobody runs oce or wii. I have been running rumbling ruby and mythic puzzle box. I'm considering Nelth's Chaos, Pip's, or Aug. Sims are saying Nelth for aoe but the take 5% more damage scares me. ST sims are saying aug which I wouln't mind, But I remember loving pip's last. And Ashes is just garbage no matter what my sim tells me right?

#

season*

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this is for 15 keys fyi

mild hound
#

Ashes hits for me

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Not playing anymore this season but it didn’t disappoint

latent hull
tribal cliff
chilly mulch
slate plaza
#

Yo, just starting to get into Arms as an alt - very simple ST question that I can't seem to find the answer for; should I be holding Avatar for CS or vice versa? Obviously there's an element of depending how much cdr you get on your CS and what procs you have up, but what would you guys call the threshold for remaining time on Avatar cd to pop CS?

slate plaza
#

really? thought we were always meant to pop avatar with CS

hushed quail
slate plaza
#

(thanks)

#

same case in aoe? apart from thunderous roar being during IftK?

#

i have a feeling i know the reply i'm going to get

hushed quail
#

Troar with avatar

#

if u play 1min

#

send with WB

slate plaza
#

makes sense ty, imagine i'll have it roughly every other WBs with the CDR on it

#

ty, very helpful :)

strange perch
chilly mulch
#

PAUSE

strange perch
timid crater
#

what are the best trinkets for mainly pugging Mythics as arms

dire hinge
timid crater
dire hinge
#

there's a decent chance other folks will be running them, but for pugs its usually fine to just wear it by yourself

grand idol
#

Pips is good too. You could also consider a defensive leaning trinket like rageheart.

steel furnace
#

What’s up with pips? Haven’t seen it in any sim

reef glade
#

its just... there

#

idk

#

there are better trinkets

#

its just "fine"

steel furnace
#

Poggers

dreamy sleet
#

I’d like to get back into arms and am wondering if we still use cleave? 3+ and 5+ with sweeping ?

#

I know the rotation is simple but Ijuat hasn’t clicked yet 🥵😡 in due time lol

indigo bridge
#

アジアサーバーRANK3548のARMSプレーヤーです。今のARMSには大きな問題があります。まずは、RAGE不足で入力不可期間がよく発生し、その原因はOVERPOWERがNERFされたこととRAGEの獲得メカニズムがとっても時代遅れです。

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上述を解決するにはOVERPOWERを10.26バージョンに取り戻すかRAGE獲得効果を付与するかしかないです。そして、もう一つ問題は、RAGEを消費する手段がまったくありません。

hushed quail
#

できれば英語でフィードバックを投稿してほしい

indigo bridge
#

と、究極技としてのDEMOLISHはダメージが恐ろしいほど低い!究極技なのに、BUFFを10STACKSにしないとダメージがないとか可笑しくないですか?いや、BUFFを10STACKSにしても低い。SHAMANのTEMPESTと比べればわかるでしょ。

#

im not good at english, im sorry 😦

hushed quail
indigo bridge
#

ah, ok!ty bro!

boreal quartz
#

though i think overpower being less overpowered is good

untold trench
# indigo bridge im not good at english, im sorry 😦

「翻訳ツールを使うことができます。Bing AIはこの目的に非常に役立ちます。ただし、会話のトーンを思い出させてあげる必要があります。なぜなら、フォーマルな言い回しだとしばしば皮肉に聞こえてしまうからです。」

Welcome to Skyhold catman

swift crown
#

初めまして

lament sigil
#

this game is trash

quasi torrent
#

truw

hazy flower
#

No its awesome 123

dreamy sleet
#

People who say game is trash play the most 😂😂

dire hinge
dusk rapids
#

Quick question do I have to wait for 40 rage to execute or is it same rage efficiency between 20 to 40 rage ?

hazy flower
#

<40 rage op

40 rage exe

sacred zodiac
hazy flower
#

linear scaling ye

latent moss
#

ye its same but u dont wanna send <40 as myrt said

copper summit
#

whats that addon that shows a wheel to cast spells

strange perch
#

the wheel is usually for consumables / mounts and what not

#

not your rotation

copper summit
#

oh i was going to use it for stuns and def

#

i have to many key bindings guess gotta get comfy adding more

thick kelp
#

how u have too many as warrior

latent moss
#

prot warr has a lot of keybinds

copper summit
#

^

#

learning prot warrior atm

latent moss
#

19 offensive cds for whatever reason

quasi torrent
#

pwarr isnt a real spec

copper summit
#

also as dps im missing 2 keybinds

quasi torrent
#

please stop mentioning it

earnest loom
#

warr isnt a real class please stop mentioning it

latent moss
#

wait this isnt tww channel

earnest loom
#

you guys took this shitposting server wayyyyy to far

latent moss
#

no need to doom

copper summit
latent moss
#

intim shout isnt a real button

copper summit
#

i just need shadowmeld really keybinded

quasi torrent
#

stop coping

hazy flower
#

On god

#

Inti goated

serene glacier
thick kelp
#

biggest fury brain

quasi torrent
#

maybe use more shift mods

#

maybe use any ctrl mods

hazy flower
#

Cntrl z

#

Cursed

quasi torrent
#

Maybe use X C V

earnest loom
#

ctrl mods with no mouse buttons is cursed

#

tbf

hazy flower
#

Stance dance on cntrl x

copper summit
#

i need x for teebags of teammates

quasi torrent
#

put defensive on mouse buttons like a human

quasi torrent
hazy flower
#

My mouse has push to talk button

#

Then shift + mwheelup for buffing

thick kelp
copper summit
#

listen if ppl die in raid for stupid stuff or m+ u NEED to go to their body teebag and burn their body with the toy

ivory quartz
#

my mouse has 11 years of hand shmegma

quasi torrent
hazy flower
quasi torrent
#

3 is clearly charge

hazy flower
#

F

#

Shift 4

quasi torrent
#

T is stormbolt u ape

thick kelp
hazy flower
#

Shift t

quasi torrent
#

G for leap

hazy flower
#

Stormbolt

ivory quartz
#

defenses ctrl-1, ctrl-2, ctrl-3

thick kelp
#

4 for leap

copper summit
hazy flower
#

Cntrl q leap

quasi torrent
#

T is target stormbolt, shift t is focus stormbolt

hazy flower
#

T is sr

copper summit
#

ooo i HATE cntrl

quasi torrent
thick kelp
#

focus stormbolt sounds like boomer reflex

hazy flower
serene glacier
thick kelp
#

I just use mouse for proper target

hazy flower
quasi torrent
hazy flower
#

(I dont use it on war anyway)

#

I always retargeted to add I have to kick

#

Not mouseover

thick kelp
#

same

hazy flower
#

First pull rise is uh

#

Eta

ivory quartz
#

i close my eyes and tab kick and if it misses then sucks for that guy

hazy flower
#

On mage I have 3 kicks tho

#

Focus mouseover and target

quasi torrent
#

Mouseover focus
-> target prio mob
-> kick off prio

#

if u dont have mouseover focus macro with marker script, don't talk to me

hazy flower
#

The only times ive let shit go through on war is during bladestorm anywayz

ivory quartz
#

whats the marker script part

quasi torrent
#

unaware

copper summit
#

well imma try out "z" and "shift-z" and "shift v"

hazy flower
#

Just put whatever where u dont have to stretch your whole hand

quasi torrent
#

its something automarker peasants wouldnt get

hazy flower
#

Youll get used to it anyway

hazy flower
quasi torrent
#

automarkers are dogshit

latent hull
#

what this man

quasi torrent
hazy flower
#

On comms its whatever anyway

latent hull
hazy flower
#

It marks targeted casting mob

#

So u just say ill kick this

quasi torrent
quasi torrent
copper summit
#

on the tree boss in bracken i notice ppl gettting sucked in and then kicked out instantly

#

is that a bug or tech

hazy flower
#

Tech

#

Weyrnstone

#

U start using it before it sucks you in so you get out insta

#

Also immunities like ice block or palas shield

copper summit
#

is weyrnstone a ability i have to click or all aug stuff

hazy flower
#

U click

#

He gives it to you so you keep it in bags

#

Make sure your bags arent full

copper summit
#

ugh another button to push

paper isle
#

hey
[18:32]
somebody has a guide for arms war in pandamix pls? uwu

rare kite
#

I want to scratch my eyes out

latent moss
#

longer

#

the longer u edge the more damage u deal

#

its that simple

woven wasp
#

dont forget to mew

paper isle
#

what the heck does that means

rare kite
#

A true sigma would know

paper isle
#

ya i know but thats not what i asked for

latent moss
#

then u dont

#

u dont know what it means

paper isle
#

bro pls go touch some grass 😭😭😭

latent moss
#

go edge and u will know

steel furnace
#

what the skibidi rizz

copper summit
#

can u actually reset raid bosses with throw and invis?

#

if so how tf

quiet sky
#

question what should my stats be at cause raidbots says i should use a set of gear but ill be at like 48% haste

copper summit
#

are u doing mythic bosses?

quiet sky
#

no just heroic cause end of season

copper summit
#

i would get rid of those trinks put oce and puzzle

#

everyone in raid should have oce if not ignore that

#

or can do torch and oce

rare kite
copper summit
#

In raid good if the fight is quick

#

Heroic fights not that long 2–3 minute fights

wind vault
#

Guys are raids still being awoken after prepatch or it ends?

rare kite
wind vault
sharp flame
#

just curious i see peopel running crushing force with no Ignore Pain is that the new set up?>

#

^ just cam eback so just asking

grand idol
#

I'm not sure how to approach the question, since they don't seem to be related to each other. Crushing force is simply taken as a dps increaser for when you hit slam and, depending how long you've been gone, ignore pain no longer contributes to anger management so it's not mandatory.

dire hinge
# paper isle hey [18:32] somebody has a guide for arms war in pandamix pls? uwu

We do have a guide here, if you want: https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/remix/overview

That said, it comes to Panda Remix, your rotation and whatnot don't really matter all that much to be honest. Your cloak will make it so that eventually you can just press Slam (our worst ability) and it'll do 10 million damage. Most of your "power" comes from clearing raids and doing the daily quests to upgrade your gear, i wouldn't overthink it too much

dire hinge
sharp flame
dire hinge
#

Totally, so Ignore Pain lost all of its offensive interactions, meaning rage spent on it no longer contribute to Tactician, Anger Management, nor Test of Might.

People still run it because it's a very strong defensive cooldown (and we have too much rage pre-execute currently), but also beacuse the proactive shield it puts on us helps keep a higher uptime on our Blue Silken Lining embellishment

#

the more time you spend above 80% HP, the more mastery you get to do more damage

#

but-- since it's not required to run Ignore Pain, you can just take Fueled By Violence and turn your brain off, save a keybinding, it's whatever

sharp flame
#

i took a break in S3 till now

#

im an idiot

#

do i just spam slam ? in CS windows with crushing force?

teal fossil
#

The ip interaction got removed at beginning of s3?

teal fossil
dire hinge
#

It’s just filler when everything else is on cooldown

#

Bear in mind too that prepatch is soon, and things might change

boreal remnant
#

love these kinds of animals

#

"BUH LOOK AT MY OVERALL" chatting

eternal vortex
#

Pwarr op

rancid knot
#

hmm diuarna ring is a downgrade for me. anyone else?

rare kite
rancid knot
#

yup

rare kite
#

you do mean the damage ring right? from eranog, or do you mean the ring from broodkeeper diurna?

rancid knot
#

the shield one

rare kite
#

oh the shield one, ye that makes sense. probably is a downgrade for a decent amount of people when playing arms, even if it is a downgrade i would still wear it(depending on how much you lose ofc)

rancid knot
#

only 900 but still

misty bridge
#

it requires you to switch around gear with different stats, Sim is your friend in this situation.

rancid knot
#

i have seen so many people wear them and i believe wowhead says BiS as well

rare kite
#

ye i would still wear it, especially if you're running bsl

#

coz it will increase bsl uptime, and sim doesn't account for that unless you do it manually

rancid knot
#

ah good poing

#

point

#

our bis embellish is bracers/bsl?

rare kite
#

prob is an increase for you if you're running bsl. kind of a pain in the ass to sim tho, need a smarter warrior player than I to correctly sim that

#

2x bsl is gonna be more damage than wrists/bsl, however wrists grants you some damage reduction as well. pros and cons to each

rancid knot
#

ok got it

#

i'll sim it out and see

#

thanks

rancid knot
#

wait.. we do emerald for oce?

thick kelp
#

Sim it

rare kite
#

you do whatever sims the highest

thick kelp
#

thats only for Bis profile

rancid knot
#

!oce

rare kite
#

bloodmallet uses a static profile, not gonna be the same as yours. bloodmallet is a good site to get an idea of what is good

rancid knot
#

ok got it

rare kite
thick kelp
#

Yerp

rare kite
rancid knot
#

haha i just simmed and all secondaries was the best simming one for me

thick kelp
#

not suprised

#

same for me in 529 gear

rancid knot
#

we set bsl uptime at 40%?

thick kelp
#

Depends on your raid

#

But you can safely set it to 60%

rancid knot
#

thanks

outer holly
#

The worst uptime Ive ever tracked was like 45%, but usually average somewhere between 70-90 on a good fight

eternal vortex
#

does anyone have OCE sim string

#

im blind and cant find here

vital mulch
tidal summit
#

Anyone have a good guide or what buttons to press in there arms rotation im 520 mostly play prot but have an idea of arms know to line them up for overpower etc but my dps feels terrible i don't have the Lego but at 520 i feel like i should be doing WAY more

thick kelp
#

Post a log

#

and read wowhead guide

slow saddle
#

or at least post a details 😄

outer holly
slow saddle
#

Seems high for m+ but certain keys in the 8-10 ramge?

slow saddle
#

having looked at my own 70 is deffo very normal im just dumb and have been playing to much beta 😄

#

but eh in mythic raid id say sim 50% just to be on the easy side

dire hinge
dire hinge
#

Of course! Have a good weekend!

outer holly
slow saddle
#

Feel like theresl oads of situations where u take more than 10% of ya health in dmg 😄

#

but ok

latent moss
#

bsl is criminally overtuned

#

even with low uptime it shits on others

slow saddle
#

i mean its more that they nerfed the other one

#

isnt it

#

also theres different uptime value, as long as u dont loose bsl while u are sending big cds

#

so i guess in a key id send all my defensives pre just to make sure i dont hit the threshodl

strange perch
#

might be best to upgrade gear with the aspect crest instead of a embelishment craft

hazy flower
#

and the uptime u have in keys is arguably even better than u had in s3

#

I have had as high as 92% uptime (only +16 but still) in this season so xd

bronze sand
#

does Overpower take priority when SS is active? Or is it still Execute spam when available

dire hinge
dire hinge
#

Happy to help!

ember violet
#

Hey guys I am new to Warrior Arms, so I have a Mage lvl 70 with pvp gear and I have 1000 something Honor and 1000 conquest, but that doesn't show up on my warrior, I thought it was avaiable for all chars no ?

reef glade
#

Uh psure those are per character no?

#

Honor level is like across characters

#

and points u get add up to it from your whole account

#

but actually currency I can’t imagine not being character specific

ember violet
#

so this is not cross char ?

woven wasp
#

no

ember violet
#

ok

#

so I gotta farm ti

#

gotchya

potent cedar
#

is it ok to macro avatar to colossus smash

#

just so I don't accidentally press it before avatar ever

#

lmao

sacred zodiac
#

should be alright as long as you still have a decoupled keybind

copper summit
#

+16key now a +8

paper summit
#

what is the worst arms has ever been? Was it nighthold?

visual fern
#

Nathria

quaint otter
#

Nathria felt bad

#

But want like giga bad

#

Wasnt*

eternal vortex
#

How was bfa arms

#

I never played bfa

peak grove
#

Arms was ridiculous with corruption

vivid zephyr
#

hey guys, I'm just getting back and looking to play warrior. I probably won't get the leggo atp so what spec does better w/o it? I'm fine playing either arms or fury

thorny hare
#

does anyone know why im still getting stunned/hit by the plainstomper stomp on Nokhud when I have DbtS up?

#

im facing the mob too

ornate eagle
#

That is weird

opaque lake
#

You casted puzzle box

#

can't parry while casting

#

It's funny actually. You pressed it as the stomp went off. .1s later and you live lmao.

ornate eagle
#

Ah now I see it, yeah

thorny hare
#

Ahh TIL good to know thx

prisma heart
#

giga cringe question but do u guys think gnome racials will edge out dwarf and human racials on alliance side in s1 of tww because we r gonna have way less stats? Not counting nelf for m+

thick kelp
#

🔮

rare kite
#

if you want to play gnome, play gnome tho. no one is stopping you

prisma heart
#

Isn't dwarf 2% bonus damage from crits so won't it be less valuable when we have less crit chance 🤔

rare kite
#

i think you're overthinking this, arms will get alot of crit even in s1

prisma heart
#

1% haste and 5% rage 🧐 🧠 peepostudy

#

136 max rage peepologs

strange perch
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@boreal quartz come key

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stone

sacred zodiac
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you will have a full week of fucking about until stuff starts happening

frigid lava
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Nighthold?

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U just need Draught of Souls lol

hazy flower
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stone

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I can do 1 pauck bbg just wanna do tomb of sargeras on magus asap

strange perch
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lets do key :DDD

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dookie

hazy flower
strange perch
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oki

latent hull
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Its the best in pvp

teal fossil
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Gnome is 1% haste right

dire hinge
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Yeah haste and resource cap

teal fossil
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Seems good on fury

strange perch
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these pills in my protools still have logic

latent hull
teal fossil
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Gnome is good early on generally

latent hull
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You can check bloodmallet for race sims

teal fossil
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Is there a 1% vers

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Bloodmallet is for current tier he’s asking about beginning of next expac

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And gnome is still up there

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Top 5 for fury

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Definitely not “nothing”

dire hinge
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I don’t remember if there’s a vers one, but Human technically does get “more” vers

teal fossil
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Yeah

dire hinge
teal fossil
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But human is cheating anyways

dire hinge
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Boring but goated

teal fossil
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That doesn’t even come out to be 1% tbh

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If you have 40% vers that comes out to be 0.8%

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Approximately

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And obviously who has 40% vers

dire hinge
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Yeeeh

teal fossil
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1% vers would probably be the strongest passive

teal fossil
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Looking pretty good to me

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Human and dwarf are known to scale like crazy

latent hull
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Im gonna make a gnome but not for pve 😛

latent hull
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I thought zandalari trolls were good tho

quaint otter
sacred zodiac
teal fossil
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Nah

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I have the pass

queen hollow
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u guys still using murlok.io to check the meta?

strange perch
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metas been the same classes for like the last 3 seasons

queen hollow
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i did not ask that

strange perch
queen hollow
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xD

manic stirrup
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murlok is fake

strange perch
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@smoky kayak

manic stirrup
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nruh

queen hollow
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yall must be new around here

strange perch
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have fun with the ban 😄

boreal quartz
manic stirrup
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youre not good anyways

queen hollow
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yeah i must suck for having a famed slayer

boreal quartz
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Yes!

queen hollow
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only shitters get on the top 10!

boreal quartz
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Yes! Finally you understand

manic stirrup
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lol for thinking famed slayer is based on anything but putting time into the game

sacred zodiac
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top 10! is a big number

queen hollow
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get on my level

manic stirrup
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10! real

dire hinge
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I don’t fuck with that.

manic stirrup
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ok?

dire hinge
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Sounds like option 2 then

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(I cannot help from mobile)

strange perch
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ye, i posted it in there

queen hollow
teal fossil
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Lookup critcakeeu