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strange perch
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yet everyones dooming

slender sonnet
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thats me speeding to rerolling feral

strange perch
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ew

crimson nimbus
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is there a Whispering Incarnate Icon weak aura or something that shows you what buffs u are getting

thick kelp
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whisperring incarnate icon group buff wago

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this on google works šŸ‘

crimson nimbus
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ahh apparently its been broken sicne 10.1.5

slender sonnet
crimson nimbus
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yes ty all the api was broken since 10.1.5

swift niche
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Are we using signet more than the puzzle box?

gray steeple
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no. Signet only good for 4+ minute fightds and keys with a constant chain pull

strange perch
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i think even then brand is only good for some raid fights

gray steeple
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It excels for the fights you'd use it but those are basically last 1 or 2 of each raid

strange perch
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what are yall buying with bullion now Axekandi?

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i have the rings, ashkandur, upgraded lego, and essence

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not really sure what else the play is

gray steeple
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Probably OCE this week then transmogs

strange perch
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i have OCE already

gray steeple
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Bought lego upgrade, Pips, Augury, rings so far.

strange perch
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so maybe pips or aug then

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which is better?

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i guess mostly for M+ since no one raids anymore

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i dont see aug on the wowhead gear list for Arms on AOE, so i guess i have my answer

gray steeple
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Aug doesn't have mainstat but it does perform consistently higher than sims would say. Between 3rd and 5th of my damage most of the time.

strange perch
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i have 3 extra bullion

old urchin
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I already have brand, anvil, grappling hook, OCE, and Pips

frigid lava
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I impulse purchased the mount... not tank trink

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now i have to wait another week :0

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I don't even like the mount...

reef glade
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Augury at 3rd place damage….

sacred zodiac
reef glade
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That’s the actually worrying part

prisma heart
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Wats the best leveling open world tww questing bullion item? N why do I think it's rageheart

teal fossil
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its open world

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do whatever you want

dire hinge
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im enjoying Branch while leveling on beta tbh

gray steeple
reef glade
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my insinuation was that if its your third place dmg something wrong is happening with other abilities

gray steeple
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Possibly. It was a HC run so half-assing them this season. Nonetheless, it still performs better than it sims.

reef glade
dire hinge
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it also doesn't contribute strength, making your other abilities weaker

boreal quartz
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Idk how youd half ass a run

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You either play proper or chainfeed

reef glade
swift crown
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@halcyon breach gm king today is your big day

halcyon breach
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@swift crown gm king it's your day too king

boreal remnant
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kiss

boreal remnant
swift crown
boreal remnant
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did I ask or did I command

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kiss

swift crown
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šŸ‘Øā€ā¤ļøā€šŸ’‹ā€šŸ‘Ø

halcyon breach
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I need to prepare more primo for tonight

swift crown
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zhem

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get some zhest

weak willow
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I read the rotation guide on wowhead and didn't really find a straight answer for this, I use Thunderous Roar while ToM buff is active rather than during the Csmash window right?

eternal vortex
weak willow
eternal vortex
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Yup but should line up with your avatar and cs

halcyon breach
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It's a small min/max using it before CS, but a global spent on Roar inside of CS is basically negligible

weak willow
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gotcha ty

hasty terrace
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hey guys new to warrior, what offensives and defensives should i track for m+ with omnicd?'

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(i play dps alternate between fury and arms and also what utility should i track)

boreal remnant
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I mean as dps you don't really need to track other people's stuff

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that's more important for tanks to know if they can do a big pull or for healers to know if they need help on a mechanic

hasty terrace
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(dps) (arms or fury)

dense bridge
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track them all

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and blame your mates when they're dead with defensive up

boreal remnant
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for fury it's enraged regen and for arms die by the sword

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rally is good to track

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and I guess you can track spell reflect if you want

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but like that's such a short cd anyways

hasty terrace
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apprecaite it!

steel sand
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am i crazy or does execute have a "travel" time / delay

astral yarrow
daring heron
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apparently gone in tww

steel sand
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with massacre too? because i think it's because they put Condemn (venthry) into base execute, and the animation to damage delay also accidentally put in it. Because i remember condemn do have delay.

i'll check it on beta later

daring heron
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but yes it does and yes it sucks

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condemn animation or not, it's the same delay

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you just "feel" it more because of the slow condemn animation

steel sand
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To be fair, i didn't play much Arms in Slands except for short time in S1.

But i did play heavily on s3-s4 BFA (Lucid dreams, i miss you sadge ) and kind of remember execute spam being fine.

But i probably got psyopd by Condemn, becauase the oldest post i see about it is in 2018

rough fractal
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Is it fine if i warbreaker and avatar together?

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Macro*

latent moss
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why

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sometimes u wanna wb without ava

austere willow
uncut tangle
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Sim straight 5mins 5 target patchwork

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It might overperform pbox, though arms just wants stats, and oce/icon might just be better flat

uncut tangle
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Could be the raw ST that is fckin it

austere willow
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I mean OCE here is with all 5 ally buffs

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that happens basically never in pugs m+

uncut tangle
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yeh

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OCE even with 1/2 buffs will be good anywho

austere willow
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not even looking at it really. It's the pbox/fragment that confuses me

uncut tangle
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But -300 between each other is just within margin of error

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One cleave or ww criting can cause that betwen pbox/fragment

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Actually, could you run a sim with only icon/oce (whichever) and pbox fragment

austere willow
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yeah, but I'm seeing things like this

uncut tangle
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I'm not at the PC sadly, can't do it :p

austere willow
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and get confused

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70% on pbox, 11 fragment

uncut tangle
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Eh interesting, not too sure why

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Run the sim with just the 3/4 trinkets and too see diff

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Because bloodmallet puts fragment just below box on 3t/5t

austere willow
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The sim previously is for all 4 trinkets

uncut tangle
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So in total 3 trinkets, icon pbox fragment

uncut tangle
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hm

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šŸ¤”

austere willow
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

uncut tangle
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might just be a crit thing, cuz you have giga crit

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cuz of the rage pot

uncut tangle
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Hm

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There it is in within margin of error, so to me its a crit thing

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But it's probably cuz your geared and thus have a fck ton of crit, so the chances of soemthing critting in ava, fragment, hurricane and the stat pot windows are higher

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could just be not everyone is on the fragment tech yet :p

austere willow
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Reckon just going stupidproof and running icon/oce at the same time kind of negates the user error variable. Potential poor usage of the on use trinket

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And yeah, might just be people not having it and after you get pbox, no sense in getting fragment if it's the same mostly

uncut tangle
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Fragment is also harder to use

austere willow
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is it?

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I presumed pbox is

uncut tangle
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Cuz it's every ability

austere willow
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since cast time

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I mean you use it on your big cds anyway

uncut tangle
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Warbreaker for example will consume a stack,

austere willow
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Just send it

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Okay I'm not optimizing it to THAT level

uncut tangle
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If you want to giga optimize, you'd do it after BS, and after WB, but before your 1st global

austere willow
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Yeah. I'm going stupid proof on this one.

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x)

uncut tangle
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The quick sim loses a stack of fragment str

austere willow
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warbreaker does deal decent damage

uncut tangle
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^^

austere willow
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so might be why

uncut tangle
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maybe

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it's negligable anyway imo

austere willow
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aye

uncut tangle
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pbox you'd just use before you charge in

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or just before you bs

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and just fckin pray you dont get frontal like i did on kurog last week

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(

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did it in s1, did it again in s4, never learn

austere willow
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yeah, that's one of the reasons why I'm not a fan

iron vigil
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what stats for blue silken neck craft? haste crit?

uncut tangle
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haste crit

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haste mast

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whichever sims best for you

sharp flame
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is Signet Brand our best ST trinket?

copper summit
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forgot how do i sim oce again?

halcyon breach
# copper summit forgot how do i sim oce again?

Put your /simc in an advanced sim, and below it, the following lines

copy=Bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/emerald/obsidian/ruby

copy=Emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/obsidian/ruby

copy=Obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/ruby

copy=Azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=bronze/emerald/obsidian/ruby

copy=Ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/obsidian

copper summit
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i love u have that ready and go

halcyon breach
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The only really relevant fights though where you'd easily get the most value out of it, would be Fyrakk and Raszageth

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Sark maybe, if your raids DPS isn't amazing

copper summit
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does the sim count the buff i already have with OCE?

halcyon breach
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Yes, it's what the first line of each version defines

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Nvm

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I'm pretty sure the one that shows up as your name, is just the default option (which iirc is all stats but not sure)

copper summit
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i simmed it once now switched buff and now simming agian to see

sharp flame
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@halcyon breach im thinking of trialing for my raid team again so i want to be as strong as i can... rn i have Chromatic Essence but have extra bullions and dont know whats the best?

copper summit
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unless it does in a way idk how but i have bronze buff now and it saying if i add bronze i get more dps so idk but i just went bronze just incase

halcyon breach
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The general trinket setup you could otherwise use for all bosses, except those, is Puzzle + OCE

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I'd only buy Signet if you have absolutely every other item you'd possibly want, like lego upgrade, both rings, (voices), Augury/Ashkandur if you play Fury

sharp flame
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i saw some people running OCE with Icon thoughts?

dire hinge
slow saddle
swift crown
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Sugma simmed pretty high too

gaunt owl
sacred zodiac
inland crater
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anyone get blessed in vault today?

gaunt owl
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NA player detected

woven wasp
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sugher

eternal vortex
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Sugma what?

sacred zodiac
gaunt owl
dire hinge
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Warlord Sugma, from Neltharus

dire hinge
fringe moon
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hmm....1st world problems

dire hinge
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take box, you can buy the rageheart with bullions

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can't buy box tho

fringe moon
dire hinge
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gonna pick up rageheart this week i think, need to fix these hps parses kekw

copper summit
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ughhh pugging sucks cant get into a 14 lol

dull obsidian
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getting into 14 ?! i have problem to get in 8+ keys

copper summit
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8's should be getting easy unless u have no i.o and then it just sucks and hard

mild hound
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Tyran and fort on 10+ keys next season…I’ll take bursting back, lol

dire hinge
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impartial about it personally. a lot of the difficulty seems to be passive next season and im interested to see how it turns out

wicked aurora
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So I get it but I don’t get it

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Like I appreciate the fact that 10s will be consistent week to week

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That being said, what even is the point of tyran and fort at that point? Just remove them and bake it into key scaling

woven wasp
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to make low keys easier

gaunt owl
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they deleted push week

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period

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you can slowly enjoy the same affix each week to push when you feel like it

vital mulch
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Don't see a need to have it at +10. 12 was perfect

gaunt owl
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you can still do your +9 to get your mythic track gear anyway

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+10 are a joke

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you can do them in blue gear

vital mulch
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Oo i don't doubt it

gaunt owl
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just stop pugging keys

wicked aurora
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Eh less of a joke with pugs

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Much less

vital mulch
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Just seems kinda eh. The whole thing of having fort/tyr active all the time was for the pushers.

woven wasp
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chatting ok then dont pug for mythic gear

vital mulch
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So having it on 10 just. Meh

wicked aurora
vital mulch
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10 gives 1 higher upgrade don't it?

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Pretty nice first weeks

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Seeing crests are limited

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In vault that is.

wicked aurora
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Oh boy 1 less upgrade to do

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Still a myth track item on an 8

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And considerably faster/easier

sacred zodiac
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noobtae

vital mulch
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Hi Spongie. I miss your red Profile pic

sacred zodiac
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apolocheese

woven wasp
vital mulch
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I still do not understand the "her" meme @sacred zodiac Why is it a shit quality pic of a vulpera

sacred zodiac
gaunt owl
woven wasp
opal folio
vital mulch
frigid lava
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do u take BS in council?

mild hound
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The 12+ being fort/tyran PLUS buffing both of them an additional 20% and no bargain damage buffs. Let’s see how this plays. +12s or higher are the same every week. Super boss health and damage w super mob health and damage.

midnight mural
reef glade
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w shit

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spam the SHIT outta that

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O wait I think we’re extending and psure that boss is dead… wait no… I want to pad on that fight so hard…

midnight mural
reef glade
midnight mural
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im bringing out a special cook for tomorrow

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for eranog

reef glade
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i got r2 I think last rotation, when I killed it at least, council build is so fun

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was ready to buy an ashes too since my kills usually last longer than 2 min it def would’ve been insane

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alas it seems I am fated to suffer

midnight mural
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im gonna do ashes + pbox on egnogg šŸ˜„ i think we kill in 1 minute

boreal quartz
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easily

bold lodge
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On what try did everyone get their gorehowl from doti, on 14th rn and still not dropped lmao

gray steeple
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Like 2nd last season.

crimson nimbus
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during execute do we even bother bladestorming ST?, or even execute with sweeping is there a # where its not worth it

bold lodge
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15th and going

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ill be here all night

fading isle
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anybody have the spell reflect wa updated

outer holly
dusky osprey
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Simming some trinkets. Recommends on Patchwerk Augury and Catalyst signet. Dungeon slice it rather take my Rumbling Ruby and Omnious but not Augury or signet..... difrence are a few thousand. Feels wierd not allways run omnious? yes I have double checked i have the buffs active

outer holly
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are you simming all oce options?

thick kelp
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link sim btw

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Augury generally shit for arm

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and signet is bad for key unless tank pulls around it

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Rumbling has been an okay trinket since S1 and omnious stat stick is quite nice

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Augury for arms in patchwerk seems weird and would need sim link to see

lean zealot
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Nerf overoower by 80%
Buff execute by 300%

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/Run

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Rename the class to Overpower

tribal vessel
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oh hey they're finally fixing rallying cry so now its even worse

vital mulch
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No more thunderclap to apply rend unless you protection? Or am i miss reading that

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Aa nvm at the very bottom it's still there

mild hound
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It’s part of the spell now, not a talent is how I read it

eternal vortex
olive nest
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There it is pog

steel furnace
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Does roar get bonus damage from avatar?

halcyon breach
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Yes

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The only thing Avatar doesn't benefit class-wise is Fatal Mark

steel furnace
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Sweet thanks

halcyon breach
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Same goes for Colossus Smash

steel furnace
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So Avatar, smash, roar?

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Thought it was avatar roar smash

halcyon breach
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What's the context

steel furnace
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well i guess aoe keys

halcyon breach
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If it's AoE, you want to Ava + WB -> Roar -> BS

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If it's ST, it's very slightly better to Ava -> Roar (-> BS if you have it) -> CS/WB

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But using Roar inside or outside of CS/WB is quite negligible

steel furnace
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Thanks for the help

halcyon breach
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Should mention it's for ST that it's negligible

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In AoE, the hit itself adds up to be more compared to ST

steel furnace
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Not really using it for its single target damage

halcyon breach
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Either way works really

steel furnace
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guessing hurricane will give you a bigger roar

halcyon breach
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I don't have actual numbers, but openers don't matter that much for Arms as long as you get the CDs out

steel furnace
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Right

astral yarrow
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only time it'd be important is for some burst window

fossil thistle
crimson nimbus
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how much would u guys sell raz mount for

latent moss
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how is her

woven wasp
sacred zodiac
ember glen
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Can i do the skip if i cleared heroic last season?

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For leggo

dire hinge
wind delta
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Can Arms tank low keys? With shield and 1H

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same vein as ferals in bear form

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not ideal but 'could they'

copper summit
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depends what ilvl and key lvl

wind delta
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like 5

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or lower even

copper summit
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as long ur team can melt them down its fine 100%

frigid lava
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killed 5 raid bosses no bullion... fuck

copper summit
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lol ive done LFR normal and heroic ... was still missing one

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on my alts

frigid lava
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6 kills no bullion

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wtf blizzard

copper summit
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honestly u should have enough bullions for mains spec and off spec i belive

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rings trink neck and wep

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just hit 3100, im very happy about that never been 3k i.o before so hitting 3100 feels good. might try go 3k on my tank as well

frigid lava
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made a mistake buying the mount... so im short on ,,, maybe a trink

copper summit
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/run a=C_CurrencyInfo.GetCurrencyInfo(3010) print("You have earned " .. a.totalEarned .. " of " .. a.maxQuantity .. " possible bullion drops")

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run that^ it will tell u how many bullions ur missing

frigid lava
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this is neat

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yea 9/10

copper summit
frigid lava
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lfr/normal drop bullion too right? even if u kileld the same boss on heroic

copper summit
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yes

frigid lava
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brood / raz pug is harsh... think imma do that

meager prairie
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anyone have the raz pummel macro handy?

reef glade
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#showtooltip Pummel
/tar boss1
/targetenemy
/focus
/tar player
/tar focus
/tar boss1
/targetlasttarget
/cast [harm,nodead] Pummel
/tar boss1

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:3

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bout to make immaculate usage of it tonight

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surely ez kill

meager prairie
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tyty

outer holly
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man that macro is an eyeful innit

reef glade
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ye

quasi torrent
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But its honestly not too useful on warr

reef glade
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yea i mean its like 10x better on ranged

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have to be like right infront of a ball

boreal quartz
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But it's 100% accuracy which is good

crude raft
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get myth track shoulders or trinket for big collection i got chromatic icon signet on myth track and puzzle box on hero track

boreal quartz
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Tier or anvil are the only relevant picks

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Both are super easy to get it you fullclear mythic

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But id go for tier rn

slender sonnet
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a gift from the lord

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I stand alone

reef glade
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yeah... equipping all the 535 bullionable items and not wearing 2 crafted pieces...

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very impressive and powerful ilvl that no one else is able to get...

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surely highest ilvl translates to highest dps right clueless

dire hinge
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Show me the simdps right next to it šŸ‘€

reef glade
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šŸ—æ xeos

slender sonnet
slender sonnet
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Just built different honestly

dire hinge
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I noticed MoP remix characters are allowed on there bc they’re flagged as retail

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Some dude with like 2.2M

slender sonnet
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Well it means that I should be able to buy signet brand to cheese sims

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And be like 440k in proper gear

dire hinge
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Yuppers

slender sonnet
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Imagine if it mattered and I did anything other than farming Fyrakk wicked

boreal remnant
slender sonnet
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My gear is ass wicked

latent orbit
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Hello fellow battlelords! I'm in the mist of choosing a main for tww and I'm eyeing warrior and paladin since I like melee and I have always loved my warrior which I have mained for a long time. My problem is that I don't really like fury. I'm always try to play the whole class when I choose a main but I don't want to spam as a fury warrior. Do you guys think it will be fine to just be arms and prot? I'm not looking to push really high mdi keys or raid mythic.

calm hare
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Hello! sorry for non-arms question, but how do I sim OCE? I mean, the alternatives

clever crag
slender sonnet
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Imagine playing classic

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Disgusting

clever crag
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Its remix tho

latent hull
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That shit ass

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Unless fixed

halcyon breach
latent hull
clever crag
latent hull
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Every paladin in the wow lore died

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They were so bad

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Only tyrion left

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Warriors are chads

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Garrosh,varian

daring heron
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uh they're very dead too

halcyon breach
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@swift crown gm king, winner of Furina as well

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:woo:

swift crown
latent hull
slender sonnet
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Warrior is saved btw

latent hull
slender sonnet
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Didn’t ask

quasi torrent
swift crown
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known cheater

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abusing cosmic ray bit flips

clever crag
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And the best warriors in lore are Garrosh, Grom and Varian all dead lol

wind delta
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Useful?

latent hull
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We the players defeated him actually

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Just tyrion broke frostmourne

wind delta
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Will this sabotage the tank?

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Not that I truly am a menace xD

latent moss
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why do u have iqd and are in oribos

bleak jasper
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kind of tired of running keys and nobody using OCE

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im running call to chaos and OCE, anyone have any other suggestions for what to run instead? that isn't puzzlebox

wind delta
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And Oribos lowkey best city

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(engineer here)

quasi torrent
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best city is boralus

oribos is just a tier above dazaralor (the worst one)

halcyon breach
quasi torrent
wind delta
halcyon breach
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This is what a loser looks like!

sacred zodiac
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@halcyon breach i find it suspicious that you know exactly that i love gambling yet you never wait for me to arrive before you gamble?

halcyon breach
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@sacred zodiacI find it suspicious that you say this when you've already dragged me to a therapist to stop my gambling habits multiple times

sacred zodiac
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okay when will we prevent the final shape?

halcyon breach
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When Bungie stops being money grubbers! (never)

sacred zodiac
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Fuck!

quasi torrent
quasi torrent
halcyon breach
quasi torrent
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Early enough to not be too bad

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
latent moss
quasi torrent
latent moss
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baze is na

halcyon breach
green plaza
exotic kestrel
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simple, only press MS and cooldowns

wind delta
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My ApoloJesus

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This is Hekili

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here is the full ui

green plaza
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My friend helped me set up some things for Arms and DPS went from 361 to 500k on dummy’s šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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Apparently you macro abilities together?

exotic kestrel
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uhh

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havent play that much on beta yet but cant rly think of a macro u need

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wait this is not beta nvm

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That got be curious tho, what did u macro together?

green plaza
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Apparently when I press R Avatar and Blood fury go off and then Bladestorm as well

exotic kestrel
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ah yeh can do that

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fair

green plaza
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Is there something that can be macroed with Thunderous roar?

exotic kestrel
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not rly since its on the global cooldown

sacred zodiac
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shouldnt really macro anything other than avatar + racials is fine

green plaza
#

Ah okay. I'm a noob but I like arms much much more than fury

#

This was my 1st ever run on arms no clue what i was doing

#

+4 BH I think

#

Weapon was wrong though. Got ashkandur

exotic kestrel
green plaza
#

Still waiting for my Legendary. šŸ˜ž

exotic kestrel
#

oof

green plaza
#

Do you use the ember before you fight Fyrakk or isnt there a specific time?

#

My rings have enchants and gems socketed into them since this morning.

Lots of haste so now everything feels like I am permanently on bloodlust

boreal quartz
real flint
green plaza
boreal quartz
#

Double bs is a minimal gain in mass aoe and a big st loss

#

And it's worse for lower keys

#

Besides it's less fun since ur afk the entire pack

abstract verge
#

Hello guys!! Here for a quick tip, have someone ever zerg mythic dathea here?

quasi torrent
#

Double BS dooodoo outside doing big numba on one big pull

abstract verge
#

Nice

#

Any tips? Do you know if tank drops stacks some how? Sorry i know is not a raid group but hey, ill be playing arms

green plaza
#

Help a guy out, what do you mean by double BS? Sorry im new

quasi torrent
abstract verge
#

2 healers?

quasi torrent
#

it gets really hard if u have bad dps and or more than 3 healers

#

think we 2 healed ye

abstract verge
#

I think we are more than good with dps but i have dh as tank tonight and it scares me the most

quasi torrent
abstract verge
#

As he is not dk

quasi torrent
#

i forgor man

#

oh we just 2 tanked

#

Cause u still gonna have 1 add that you gotta kill

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and u don't really want it to blow up in mid

cerulean grove
#

on mythic aoe packs, do you spend you 2 stacks of dreadnaught on cleave? or still ms

green plaza
latent hull
#

Dont run the talent that makes avatar give u bladestorm

green plaza
#

Oh okay I understand. But what then cause I just copied the build from WoWhead

halcyon breach
#

Can move endurance training over to cruel strikes for a bit more damage

#

But this build will essentially give you the best spread of ST and AoE

#

Using Blademasters (2x Bladestorm) gives you a bit more AoE but at a much bigger ST loss, so it's typically not recommended

green plaza
#

Thats very interesting. So I do not have to change buttons or macros just the talent and its bigger ST increase

#

Which is great cause execute destroys

boreal quartz
#

Execute wont destroy but you will do more st damage

#

Execute never does okay damage, it's just an EP and TOM feeder unfortunately

quasi torrent
#

hey exe with jugg and mass does okay damm

halcyon breach
#

Me when Execute phase

green plaza
#

Do you guys ever use rend? Its on my bar but it never shows on Hekili

halcyon breach
#

You use Thunder Clap to apply Rend

#

There's no reason to use Rend on its own

quasi torrent
#

unbind it

midnight mural
halcyon breach
#

Yeah it's slightly skewed

midnight mural
#

OOOOF

halcyon breach
#

We had an Assa rogue, but he was deadge for most of P3

midnight mural
#

arms p3

quasi torrent
#

P3 isnt long enough for then to get 2x deathmark either

#

(assuming u have humanoids)

#

so their dps will look cornge

midnight mural
#

so stacked lol

green plaza
halcyon breach
#

In the class tree

boreal quartz
green plaza
#

Wtf. Thank you I learned something today

halcyon breach
#

It'll do it baseline in TWW (assuming it doesn't change)

boreal quartz
#

It feels mid to me idk

halcyon breach
#

I think rn Execute is not mid

#

Execute per cast might not do the same as MS, but MS also gets buffed by EP (+ Martial if you used OP)

boreal quartz
#

If there was no TOM overlaps execute would look p stank

#

And since TOM is bad i think execute suffers with it

#

Bad Design that is

#

Cant argue with tuning rn

cerulean grove
#

on mythic aoe packs, do you spend you 2 stacks of dreadnaught on cleave? or mortal strike

halcyon breach
#

Depends on target count and if you have SS
MS at 2 targets without SS
4 targets with SS
MS at any target count if high prio target

strong notch
#

is it ok to have both OCE and icon for M+ , i hate using puzzle box and i dont even have a mythic version of it , or maybe u consider other options i currently have OCE and i can purchase another trinket what should i get if i only play M+ ?

halcyon breach
#

You'd otherwise Cleave at 3 targets if no SS
5 targets if SS

halcyon breach
cerulean grove
#

gotcha gotcha ty

halcyon breach
#

If you purely want 2 passive options, I'd personally use Pips instead of Icon or OCE, depending on which you don't have any buffs for

strong notch
#

ill look up Pips one dont even know it

halcyon breach
#

It's just a rotating stat stick

#

It's never not good

strong notch
#

what about neltharion call to chaos one

#

i can maybe comine that one with oce or u think pips is better

green plaza
#

Are there pins about all the abbreviations? I'm trying to learn but it's overwhelming šŸ˜…

halcyon breach
#

Call is good, but it has the downside of increased damage taken when it procs which can potentially kill you on higher keys

#

But for keys around the 12-15 mark you can use it

green plaza
halcyon breach
strong notch
#

+10 is the highest ive done so far

#

so just lets say am doing 10s max

halcyon breach
halcyon breach
strong notch
#

i dont know what i want xD , all i know is that i hate that puzzle box with a passion

halcyon breach
#

Then you can just go OCE/Icon depending on your group + Call

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Or Pips + Call if you always pug, since you can't guarantee ever getting any use out of either OCE or Icon

green plaza
#

I use cataclysm and augury flame

halcyon breach
#

I'd generally not recommend using Signet Brand in M+ for general use

cerulean grove
halcyon breach
#

It's a very niche use case on very high keys if you hit a wall on boss damage specifically

#

And Augury is fine, but would rather use any of the other above mentioned trinkets

#

At the end of the day though, you can use a lot of different passive trinkets, and they'll all be fine

#

There's no shortage of very good trinkets, only exception would really be Signet Brand unless the above applies to you

green plaza
#

I just need to do more damage than my BM hunter guildie and im sorted 🤣

#

Both my trinkets are 515 atm and ive never done higher than a + 5 until yestersay did my first 6

boreal quartz
#

Slow and steady

#

Up to +21 like tgp

green plaza
#

I won't ever push that high I think. Thats insane and for pros 🤣

boreal quartz
#

Ye 21 is esport numbers

green plaza
#

Although my guild leader will have an aneurysm seeing me push thise kind of numbers

strong notch
#

@halcyon breach ok am buying either call or pips then , what would u choose out of the 2 to pair with OCE

#

am doing only M+ 10 level key

elfin kindle
#

Puzzlebox

strong notch
#

šŸ˜„

outer holly
#

Just re-read the wow guide, never realized we actually prio OP over WW in ST outside of CS

#

That just sounds like crazy talk

boreal quartz
#

It is what it is

iron vigil
#

does anyone have the string to sim omnious?

outer holly
scenic umbra
#

Boys

#

is anyone simming over 420?

#

my best sim is with no back, no mastery in neck and no 535 ring

#

417

woven wasp
#

are you fury?

scenic umbra
#

im just missing helmet 528 rest is bis

old urchin
#

437k for me on 5+ min boss fight with signet brand.

scenic umbra
#

share

#

plx

woven wasp
#

its not hard to sim over 420 as arms

old urchin
#

DM me and I’ll run it again when I get home.

scenic umbra
#

lemme do 5m

#

so ic an compare

#

i sim 411

#

wtf

teal fossil
#

link sim

scenic umbra
#

I have back and access to the neck with silken

woven wasp
#

0% bsl uptime

scenic umbra
#

i dont have it

woven wasp
#

yeah the rest is not bis

scenic umbra
#

but i did a sim

#

i was simming 418

#

something is off

woven wasp
#

my gear is exactly sheet bis

#

so do what you will

scenic umbra
#

yeah i ll make some changes

#

thx mate

#

30k dps almost same ilvl is wild

#

lol

#

im stupid i had improved SS

#

is 424, not 411

blazing bloom
#

why the hell with my gear im barely in the meters?

gaunt owl
blazing bloom
gaunt owl
#

how can we help you if you dont provide context or logs anyway

gray steeple
gaunt owl
#

off all people

#

get fucking real

woven wasp
#

i mean its literally a skill issue
having gear isnt gonna make you good

blazing bloom
#

im following the wowhead guide

blazing bloom
gaunt owl
#

people are really fragile

#

handle with care

quasi torrent
#

are two different things my man

blazing bloom
#

i mean , im doing cleave on cd , overpowered, ms on cooldown when less than 5 mobs

#

roar/avatar warbreaker

mild hound
#

Find a good log, compare ur breakdown to theirs

#

Lorri’s.io for raid cd help

#

Lorrgs*

blazing bloom
mild hound
#

Check ur BSL uptime

#

As well

blazing bloom
#

bsl?

mild hound
#

It’s a cd usage site for raid encounters

#

Has every spec/class.

#

Draws from wcl’s

#

BSL = blue silken lining

blazing bloom
mild hound
#

Most definitely could be a culprit

#

Hard to tell without more info

#

Not having leggo is a massive loss as well

blazing bloom
#

ohh yeah no lego either

mild hound
#

That’s gigantic for arms sadly

blazing bloom
#

is what i have

mild hound
#

Oce w crit on it may be valuable

#

And swapping to 2x BSL

blazing bloom
mild hound
#

Trinkets aren’t gr8 for keys unless you know how to keep cata up

blazing bloom
#

ohh yeah trinkets i have are bad

#

i though cata was put it on and forget it

mild hound
#

I don’t see a primary stat gem either

#

Driving so maybe I missed

blazing bloom
#

no no crafted ge,m

#

was waiting on a better neck

mild hound
#

Seems like a bunch of little stuff adding to less damage

opal folio
#

You’re about 22 ilvls behind most peeps

#

You’re just not gonna compete

mild hound
#

Trinkets and leggo are huge and yes, I’ll low

gaunt owl
craggy oriole
#

yeah, big picture here
it's ilvl difference

mild hound
#

Ilvl*

gaunt owl
#

he said good gear

blazing bloom
#

dang

opal folio
craggy oriole
#

the bsl and other stuff doesn't hold a candle to 20+ ilvls

blazing bloom
#

sucks to start late lol

boreal quartz
#

no lego means throw away ur char

#

it does

mild hound
#

Kind of does sadly

#

Play rogue, lol

blazing bloom
mild hound
#

Dh then

#

Best tank anyway

#

Sigil b stronk

#

You can still be optimal at low level but you’re not really. Then no leggo is kind of the nut punch

blazing bloom
#

i havent seen it drop at all

#

since i started this guy

#

or on my pally

mild hound
#

I didn’t get it until the end last season either, stinks

boreal quartz
#

(shit system)

mild hound
#

Yea, saw someone get it week 2, dreams crushed

#

+2 to envy

blazing bloom
#

my fear is i get lego and theres no body to do the dream part

boreal quartz
#

or if you ever do it as non current

#

find a crafter

dusky osprey
ornate eagle
#

The hard part is the superblooms and the boss kills in later expansions

#

Or having enough crafting materials on the AH to begin with

boreal quartz
#

ye the shadowflame thingies

ornate eagle
#

Ofc it's gonna prefer cantrip dmg if your character itself does negative dmg

#

Wait you have only 1 embellishment

boreal quartz
#

my settings

#

almost 5k loss for augury

ornate eagle
#

Without monk, hunter and windfury - augury is basically break even with oce

dusky osprey
ornate eagle
#

That's simbait

#

Cuz in the sim it's assumed that ruby always hits all targets

#

When in reality it does not

#

You whiff atleast 50% of ruby procs

dusky osprey
#

hmm ok, but augury is top on the list, simming pips, sure only got hero track puzzle box

boreal quartz
#

why the fuck are we simming slice

dusky osprey
ornate eagle
#

Dslice is maintained, so it works

boreal quartz
#

hes in raid targets

ornate eagle
#

But yeah

boreal quartz
#

why would he do anything but sim st

ornate eagle
#

No point simming dungeon with raid talents

dusky osprey
#

I was running my hybrid talets witch I do use in m+ with shockwave and fear

ornate eagle
#

Even then augury is trash

#

Cuz it's random dmg

boreal quartz
#

augury is the 5th best option in a season of godly trinkets

#

no real reason beyond "i bought this for fury"

#

to have it

ornate eagle
#

or heroic parses

#

and pray for rng to give you augury procs

woven wasp
dusky osprey
#

Augury proccs rather quick and are not frontal base like rumbling Ruby? Sure stat stick with puzzle box is nice, but cast time is a fucking pain sometimes

ornate eagle
#

augury procs are rppm (relative procs per minute)

#

and its based on your dmg done

#

so no aiming of any sorts

dusky osprey
#

Exactly, so it should in practice in a real dungeon generate overall better then a trinket like Rumbling Ruby

#

and for dungeons, would you want to reccomend another stat stick like pips?

ornate eagle
#

yes

#

love pips

scenic umbra
#

will do it

#

but sims 500 dps more

gaunt owl
#

you mean 5k ?

scenic umbra
#

i need sockets

#

socket

#

then will be worth it

#

i was on holiday so im behind here and there

gaunt owl
#

see the power

#

you can obtain

scenic umbra
#

next week

#

i can create a socket out of nowhere

#

xD

#

cant*

#

but yeah good point

gaunt owl
#

with vault

#

they got cheaper to buy

scenic umbra
#

can you make it wednesday again

#

so i can get em

still tapir
#

530 lezgoo

blazing bloom
#

ok what i did right and wrong

thick kelp
#

Yuor buddy Taigamafia has twice the amount of mortal strikes on terros

#

and your opener looks like you pressed buttons and then slammed your keyboard

#

and you keep pressing sweeping on CD in a ST encounter

#

and your execute phase looks horrendous

#

Should look more like this

#

Also you should spend your dinars on ashkandur seeing that you dont have a leggo and your current weapon is 502

slender sonnet
dire hinge
gaunt owl
#

skill issue solving WA

dire hinge
thick kelp
#

Go hit some dummies

#

Its really subtle

#

but helps alot with using MS on cd

dire hinge
#

ah, i see

#

it's definitely calming

thick kelp
#

Thank you for the feedback mr Yellow

#

Im only trying my hardest to educate everyone intrested in the brown arm

dire hinge
#

this was beautiful, i love it

gaunt owl
#

if its procced from EB it doesnt trigger the sound

thick kelp
#

huh

#

how the fuck does that work now since its set to proc on action usable

dire hinge
#

maybe the action wasn't usable

gaunt owl
#

i did a 3rd trigger with aura on EB

thick kelp
#

I just logged in to add myself

#

can u drop the wa

gaunt owl
#

its not working as i want

#

!WA:2!9z1tVTrru86AOfCdsjUTrTOckkaruoe1gscOi4G3e72uLyBw7qcsrY7S7oE3Pz9mlZmRtspuP6dqVHKHw()fFMtwc(aKdCE0keFaYb(aKJCI3mETHasKdRN59EZB(9(nV)KCvk2POFr)NE7bepgTblH7HV1fsrjYqgVwSKWOIcdr(pmriX(BtOxKFCT2TfyzUHiQhyuDgHkDxVC1MLTt9ySiF2H0ghsIXoNmEBz)aCOL(gC6j5KGamxqxGNT8xSKhhJTfX4OOtfjU4UyQSrs72KJg2A9snA2QrZs2nTnYtl5Pb1C7iqUryRekr6ghHogZt5yuudTtQI6Gt3MXLOO5AaxYb40ebULySoNEMLB6lk0FIWx6oxYMc)kkmbd15yad2nQxERTg4JDbi1eqk)(L3QELD2QFcnlckSG6k)UAk1ROUb4M4ICCheHsObTyG5ijJp)h8HQPJV56zeYC15SaowiM7Tni(2QIQRQUM66QzDmyDIhCsdWumN41iKDyn6PcZpJ9t8mAJpNfo9NC2I3TVwTKJ8oWrDl1RPEDns)v1u2OeoAPZ0AhfxRhHeIW(AXgs4vJlw(Oqsecqp4P5SIyhkuVPJAE1ByW6SoMyfcQzNeu2yK)XJJio4CdzRwy8Dp0NiEycfEa7IxcrpoEgKzDZrS42mF8pDHZG0jmNII(yijbEPF2zhGXXLG3jpPnaggGskPJEfDvBHeXLvobJey4LgtdKHxwnLfLrXP(jCJvT0PxCbgs)8f90MQFfvRyPPPkQLHdOwrTQ69uVVAf32a1jc)3IHNFbsQDioCaKFyJd0LgRnRAQuyRlWWbCwc1)PxlUOeFKSLiebKYEzflX30i08PnJdWVLiBHAL(t0n)BjIN(FC81zrm(dYLlx(thjfh12uWzvANM1IVQriuSY08H3UeFzOvjy7zJUiYryFJWNKoQy9tYGZjg96IAs7JvxAaNjHiRji0QATQLvtXHGsBZaJHEgyKh(RFweqLXtxHtE0CFucYhyf0CnBEUaF8nLAKDiJ7Vlhf3B3SfJaqxIGavXozX8)OHs8mBwTAz7ww1A2S222BEV73mDYv3G8i8nZIO9o39O1AkrRTtZT2SA5)inasCRWXFAcM6DC9x4olU0kJIoTIt0F2ilnjFp9o9PtDtKsgTwxmh6SmqlEltQ11hQxpo06R3S(eQ5eiH)EJLeASCc4mEoK4DafQ5ZBoydpueoVLEzOrWweq5mMBZcyjmp0netccLpbk(q(FMLac7zT7KejjfS01dZQoOWPE6kxG681938wWvaLRr4Vau5c9)GUyGvZEJC)8F6yBmvFOb6cFpwhxK0jUOzZ58IJXGrhpmEAytPSjaWma0rHUcZGcxsNyOl7)2acnCa3uFyQZE5(tYAvxAiHokRh0wW(VZR4itBDXQQ3Tc3N1Yql2cDfv8ABQ7i0g5H3VKVpy0(7IrhucE2e7xNDiMBwUn2NG2VH(eI9HUKYfzbb9bx5b4I1jShS04Vq1AfSGICzH4RnEaLoZFdIzKIF4sje)HXvd3B5opy5n83X6rmwNC2OO4qu(bsMx3rDMUrUpNnpXxDD7dn1ydBZH(DqBiOCi)zJspROfPPb3gRBxUCvdBpUHj0Wd6OHDCHotTjbf4eQ21yh(rtMXoEYl6Oloq3aJyOP1wW2le7DWQQRKVxxeNyggQNny3ffLGZZ9cr0aOp(cQNV6atCBAdAvhYOvpoEX)dNUbwIira1LXGMJeKqxsZJPJ2QDkfh5UncWeVxmxpEtc(Bb1xcq5fvFL6zQNNx91MRv9nQVv9y13P(E1pO(XXgD5)FJ6n(jX504SzKJ(VsENBDHlwu4UYI3D5fVtXU)2E)1

#

we need a WA jedimastewr

thick kelp
#

what is yours missing

dire hinge
#

i fixed it by going to spell -> Cooldown/charges/count and then altering the trigger to be:

  • all of
  • Trigger 1 = On Cooldow: False
  • and Trigger 1 = Insufficient Resources: False
thick kelp
#

that u want it to do

blazing bloom
#

I will do some work on it tomorrow

reef glade
dire hinge
#

you'll have more than enough builions to re-purchase the lego upgrade by now, for what it's worth. You'll have to acquire them via the catchup mechanic, but at this point in the season there's enough out there that you can buy other stuff and circle back to the lego once you get it dropped

thick kelp
#

I got lost in the sauce

dire hinge
#

since its not flagged for in combat only i love that it plays if you open/close the WeakAura panel šŸ˜‚

blazing bloom
dire hinge
#

good luck!

thick kelp
blazing bloom
#

I mean I know in m+ I was doing shit dmg

boreal quartz
#

@thick kelpi will assassinate your kurog log

thick kelp
dire hinge
boreal quartz
#

i also do

#

i got like an okay raz but beans terros

#

shit brand

#

ending a 4 min fight at 12

#
  • no wft
#

killtimer ass too deadge

thick kelp
dire hinge
thick kelp
#

atleast after I got more than 1 in a row

dire hinge
#

did you have the resources to afford the 3rd one?

thick kelp
#

yeah

dire hinge
#

da heck

thick kelp
#

it seems to work bettter and better

#

everytime I enter combat again

#

but I also do wanna add here that it plays a sound when the CD of MS is less than 0.75s aka available next global

#

seems to be working now

dire hinge
thick kelp
#

yeah it seems to work chill now

dire hinge
#

gaming chatting

boreal quartz
#

@thick kelpI GOT HIT ON THE HEAD MY EARTH ADD

#

LOG IN SHAMBLES

#

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

dire hinge
#

this is why i love weakauras

gaunt owl
#

you can do so much in WA

#

just need the know how

dire hinge
#

this, and that one monk who made that entire First Person UI

reef glade
#

this a Mickey Mouse make a ding when eb procs thing?

#

just notice the button is off cd naturally chatting

thick kelp
#

It does a whole lot more swordish

reef glade
dire hinge
#

it includes the immersive experience of living in the USA

thick kelp
#

Okay I added so if the CD remaining is .75s it also plays gun

thick kelp
#

so now you know to start spamming it to get it off global

dire hinge
#

it's like cash-register execute but evolved

reef glade
#

top rasz log was able to roar first and third set of adds on first intermission

#

and I just… can’t

boreal quartz
reef glade
#

Cuz the mm hunter on my side does like double the next persons dmg for the phase

gaunt owl
#

i put the MS WA on top of my action bar

reef glade
#

broken pad class

gaunt owl
#

easy

boreal quartz
gaunt owl
#

i have base UI

thick kelp
gaunt owl
#

with some WA on top

thick kelp
#

@dire hinge I uploaded it and added smth special for u

#

<3

dire hinge
#

HAHA omg

#

bless

gaunt owl
#

whats the special ?

thick kelp
#

read the desc

reef glade
#

Guys we spent an hour last night wiping p1 rasz cause we kept getting 4th wings and ppl just weren’t able to cope, and then someone suggested ā€œwe should go back to two lustsā€ and the entire raid just uproared ā€œWE WERENT LUSTING!?!?!?!ā€

#

That was funny

boreal quartz
#

good bl

dire hinge
reef glade
#

Kind of all of our faults for not noticing ig

#

still crazy

boreal quartz
#

but no

#

dead log

#

fuckin 30 cpm ms

thick kelp
#

this looks good now

#

@dire hinge

dire hinge
#

oh great

#

this just reminds me i need to log into the beta and actually update auras this weekend sad_cat

latent moss
#

@dire hinge Thank you Hrothmar

reef glade
gaunt owl
#

is there a way to make this WA show the GCD animation of blizzarD?

thick kelp
#

there is the gcd sweep

#

enable that from the general settings

#

I thinks

gaunt owl
#

yep its not the one settings i want

dire hinge
#

if you want it to show the GCD itself, it's under the Trigger 1 -> Extra Options -> Show Global Cooldown

#

the swipe animation itself im not as skilled at the settings for those

#

but im also running Elv which overwrites them

gaunt owl
#

yep its that

#

but its look funky somehow

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oh yeah i need to make the WA greying out when not pushable

boreal quartz
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this is what i do

gaunt owl
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i cant do what i want

dire hinge
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if you want the greying-out, change "color" to "Desaturate" and check the box next to it

gaunt owl
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but its ok the way it is

boreal quartz
boreal quartz
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i just like it like normal a-bar

dire hinge
boreal quartz
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desat = cd

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blue = resource

thick kelp
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execute on cd there then

boreal quartz
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well nah

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t1 is sd t2 is exe

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so it always shows up, shows sd icon and glows if usable at all

dire hinge
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This is why i love WeakAuras. You can make it work for whatever is best for your brain.
I used to run the Blue=Resources and Red=Range, but found i didn't jive with them.

Now, i usually do Desaturated for cooldown, but lack of resources i put the word LOW across it

gaunt owl
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shit i linked the screenshot

thick kelp
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Pog football in the back

gaunt owl
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oh right šŸ˜„

dire hinge
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(joke) hear me out: every time you press MS it creates a cursor image that navigates over to MS and makes the click animation

gaunt owl
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see the bottom row

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i want it that way

thick kelp
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I think disable show edge and enable show swipe

gaunt owl
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getting closer

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yep its those settings

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i had inverse unchecked

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thx bro

thick kelp
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nice

boreal quartz
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holy trinity

gaunt owl
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its on 1

boreal quartz
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hs is on alt w for me

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bit demon

gaunt owl
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i have healing stuff on shift 3 4 5

woven wasp
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alt is super demon

gaunt owl
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pots healtsthone and IV

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i have nothing on alt

ornate eagle
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Let me teach you

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  • Blue glow = Deep wounds not active on current target
  • Yellow glow = 2x Overpower Stacks
  • Red glow = 2x Executioners Precision Stacks active on current Target
  • top left number inside Mortal Strike = how many Overpower stacks you have
  • top right number inside Mortal strike = how many Executioners Precision stacks active on current Target
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  • bottom right green = 11.0 tierset stacks
boreal quartz
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elp pls

ornate eagle
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margin of error

gaunt owl
ornate eagle
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why do you have stam leg enchant

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missing out on dmg

boreal quartz
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cuz i am not cringe

ornate eagle
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ah yes

boreal quartz
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just gcomp

ornate eagle
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you want those 800 more hp

boreal quartz
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it CANNOT be tied

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i REFUSE

gaunt owl
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wait you went versa main gem ?

boreal quartz
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OH i see

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versa flask

gaunt owl
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interesting

boreal quartz
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thats th eissue

astral yarrow
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I think we blame garms

boreal quartz
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so real

gaunt owl
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dude

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i was searching for too long

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imagine playing versa flask

ornate eagle
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