#arms

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olive nest
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Again it’s fairly minor as Roniny said earlier

teal fossil
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i personally think rend needs to come a bit earlier

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6 gcds without rend is a lot of damage

normal marsh
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ah the bottom is what I see a lot of with a rend thrown in sometimes

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cool fanx xox

cyan fox
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Using axe after charge sometimes would use up the CD but not activate the skill

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like it cancels it

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so I always try to get a MS or clap first

olive nest
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Depends if I can reliably have the rage for both

halcyon breach
quasi torrent
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@halcyon breach Freeze! :balls:

swift crown
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I will not

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unforch

quasi torrent
quasi torrent
swift crown
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look how powerful he looks

quasi torrent
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burgeon yoimiya

burgeon yoimiya

burgeon yoimiya

quasi torrent
reef glade
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only have 1 of the characters in that team

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I was like a little scared looking at spiral abyss mobs but then once I did it it was actually a joke

quasi torrent
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i mean u just need shit that can deal with multiwave + hydro

frigid lava
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Ah... done for the week

reef glade
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vibe checked

quasi torrent
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cringe

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men EW

quasi torrent
boreal remnant
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I'm kinda struggling with knowing what to prioritize when I have ms, op, and ww up

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wanna get ww on cd and spend the rage but Idk I feel like I keep just sitting on it when I keep getting op and ms resets

livid cloak
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Single target?

boreal remnant
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yeah

livid cloak
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Ms > op > ww unless you're in cs

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Ms > ww > op in cs

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To burn rage for test of night

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Might

boreal remnant
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oh ok ty

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legit just sitting here spamming smolderon to learn the cd timings

reef glade
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It has left me getting questioned by my friends tho I have 4 triple crowned men and 0 triple crowned women so far

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so I’m working towards upping number to beat allegations

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navia/hutao both have 2 and are like “ok” to get 3

gray steeple
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Think it took more tinkering than anything else this season but finally in the 40/40 club.

dusty venture
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rip your haste

reef glade
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u mean vers???

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0 chance that takes your haste

dusty venture
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haste is my lowest stat

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i think mine are mastery > vers = crit > haste

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wait this isnt fury chat keks never mind my stats are not tuned for that

boreal remnant
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i just follow sims

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but here are mine

crude needle
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What trinkets do you guys run in M+

somber lance
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box and oce

molten timber
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What do we put on oce

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Mastery?

gaunt owl
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depends on your current gear

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best to sim topgear and swap the buff to see whats cooking

boreal remnant
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for me it was haste

old urchin
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Vers for me

outer holly
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Turns out when half your gear is crafted your stats are pretty well balanced

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Twas the black for me

dire hinge
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Just need a mythic chest piece still then I get to log off Pedro

dire hinge
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“Release meee”

gaunt owl
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you are ready to join the doomium hype train for TWW

paper gulch
paper gulch
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Thank you. What are you running in your OCE? Mastery?

boreal remnant
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haste

obsidian topaz
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is it not a good week to run BSL?

gaunt owl
obsidian topaz
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i mean its fine at the start of the first pull

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but after that I feel like its not usually up for the start of next pulls

gaunt owl
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what are the affix ?

obsidian topaz
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bursting

gaunt owl
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mmh can be tricky on bursting

obsidian topaz
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yes im running second wind

quasi torrent
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U still run it

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nothing else is close to it unfortunately

obsidian topaz
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but it doesnt activate as soon as you go over 90% right? takes a bit of time?

gaunt owl
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it does have a weird ICD

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if you get back and forth between 90%

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its not gonna apply it asap

obsidian topaz
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ive got shadowflame patches from prot I could use

gaunt owl
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i would still run double BSL

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no matter what

obsidian topaz
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i dont run double in the first place

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BSL and vers wrists

thick kelp
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should run

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makes u improve at the game when u play around getting max uptime

obsidian topaz
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but i like standing in bad

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and also living

white canopy
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How much rage overcapping is normal?

gaunt owl
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always

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is normal

paper gulch
white canopy
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Yes

gaunt owl
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Yes

white canopy
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🤣

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But according to the logs analyzer it says I missed out on colossal smashes and avatars because of rage waste 🤔

paper gulch
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I dont think that means youre overcapping

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I think its analyzing rage spent during CS window vs what you could have spent.

white canopy
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And overcapping on overpower, but if I get giga procs thats pretty wierd

paper gulch
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Depends on what youre doing IMHO

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if youre in M+ and are running Dreadnaught, then who cares

white canopy
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A raidboss

paper gulch
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Well on raid bosses thats important because im assuming you're also running test of might, correct?

gaunt owl
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always follow prio

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zugzugzugy

white canopy
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Yeah

paper gulch
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Yep

white canopy
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Mortal strike SMorc

gaunt owl
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Mortal Stroke

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my anevrism is full blown

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its summer time soon

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season i mean

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and its tomorrow

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since its a 365 days year

steel furnace
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Here comes the sun, do do do do

gaunt owl
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wait 366 days

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dude i cant math right now

paper gulch
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its ok you're only off by .75

gaunt owl
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thats a big diff !

paper gulch
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meh, 18 hours

fresh spire
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feel like alot of bosses tanks always moving shit

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so before you can send axe sometimes i just slip the clap in

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couldnt you not clap/axe at same time anyway not noticed tbh

paper gulch
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Was messing with my gear, got my new stat setup

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I used augury before, augury averaged 12% uptime in a dungeon, where call to chaos averaged 20%

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Still not sure which is better

outer holly
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I'm surprised Crit is simming that low with augury

paper gulch
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The sim is saying that augury is better but when I check details it shows more uptime on the call to chaos. The question is 5200 strength versus unpredictable (12%) uptime on a 50% increased dmg buff that may not proc when you want it to

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Especially on a tyrannical week where youd like to see it on a boss

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idk, this is my own logic.

wild heart
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does ex prio stay the same even with EB?

wild heart
paper gulch
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Yeah, call to chaos feels more functional and procs more

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8% more

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

sacred zodiac
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surely you just play pbox oce for everything

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ctc is troll if you're pushing and pbox is pretty good for the way you tend to play keys

paper gulch
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Im not pushing high IO this season, box just feels awful to press

zealous pivot
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at what level is ctc considered troll?

dire hinge
quartz cedar
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anyone consider the ouroboros necklet?

dire hinge
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you can sim it to see if it's good for your current gear, but generally we use neck for embellishment. If you move your embelishments elsewhere, it limits your options, lower stats, or hinders something else (compartively)

wild heart
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but if you get it natty

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go for it

bleak jasper
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im unertain of what to buy at this point

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i have a 528 nelth but id rather not use that for keys ideally

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i already have been so i could just do a 535

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ive seen a lot of people use ashes

sudden fox
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Tempted to rip a rumbling ruby or augury for m+ over puzzle box

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hate using that shit

zealous pivot
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dont listen to them, ctc for life

bleak jasper
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i really hate puzzlebox

sudden fox
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ctc?

outer holly
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I wasn't a pbox fan until I realized you could use it pre dungeon start for a free cd reset

wild heart
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peak performance

frigid lava
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I'm 528... and not even close to that

wild heart
fringe moon
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I only use pbox on 4min fights. For 3 min and shorter I use branch

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Got 2 casts of branch in on mythic reclear volcoross. Was fantastic.

sudden fox
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i mean in m+ not raid haha

sudden fox
zealous pivot
wild heart
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2x bsl, icon, oce

zealous pivot
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nvm i stalked u

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i see exactly how

wild heart
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But thats only self buffs

zealous pivot
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lmao

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yeah its the 2 passives on trinkets

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and both have str

frigid lava
outer holly
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Someone get this guy 67 stam stat

frigid lava
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well... that's with zero buff and M+ shockwave talent set

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raid setting

zealous pivot
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with out raid crit talent

frigid lava
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that 11% leech

zealous pivot
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and avoid

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was 14% leech at one point but replaced hero piece

frigid lava
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I only have one BSL... thinking about making another

zealous pivot
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mandatory imo

frigid lava
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yea ... im not pushing io anymore. no need for vers bracers

zealous pivot
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i mean im almost 3400 and still not having issues running call

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thats why i dont get why people hate on it so much

frigid lava
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I get about 70~80% BSL uptime

zealous pivot
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same

frigid lava
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as prot.. probably 80~90% lol

zealous pivot
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low 70s in a key

hazy flower
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depending on a key

zealous pivot
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sus

hazy flower
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getting below 70 means most of the time that it's a scuffed key

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depends on a key obv

dire hinge
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i need more tertiaries

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oh shit wait i have a pair of boots i can catalyze and get speed folded in

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YEAHHH BUDDY

sudden fox
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I have peak tertiary

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actual race car

paper gulch
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A self healing avoiding racecar

raw kayak
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gotta go fast

fickle lotus
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Whats the highest possible Ilvl ?

thick kelp
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530?

quasi torrent
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sounds about right

zealous escarp
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hi is there a pb here ?

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i think my war doesnt press MS enough no ?

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what do you think guys pls

crude raft
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with consumables not fully upgraded yet

crude raft
latent moss
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idk looks fine to me

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arms openers are w/e you can ms to gamble a 4p proc so ur leggo does more

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there was a sim somewhere i think ppaw did it of like 9 different openers and it legit doesnt matter xd

crude raft
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he is not using overpower to get stronger casts on mortal strike ideally from martial prowess i think outside of execute

halcyon breach
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That does not matter

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Martial is a bonus, not something you play around

latent moss
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u send ms on cd

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dont think about martial prowess

halcyon breach
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It's just like Slaughtering Strikes for Fury (at least on ST)

latent moss
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exhil blows proc so 2 ms back to back and no pb

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r1 volc

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i think ms before lego is worth doing tho

crude raft
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hes sometimes clicking 3 times execute in exe phase and thunderclap too

latent moss
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reminds me of s3 arms

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a bit

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except the op part

daring heron
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if it was s3, i see 2 mortal strikes and 1 op that shouldnt be there

halcyon breach
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However TC is very bad in Execute

latent moss
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cursed tech

unreal zenith
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Hey guys 🙂
Cant seem to find anything online regarding stat caps.
I want to enchant my rings and method-guide says i should choose crit or haste depending on my current stats.

im 28% crit (3602 points) and 37% haste (5845 points) - should i focus crit?
My mastery is 28% (2726 points) btw.

Thank you and have a great day! 🙂

eternal vortex
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3 executes arent bad if you are still stacking Ashen Jurgernaut

halcyon breach
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If you don't know how to, there are guides on how to use raidbots

zealous escarp
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i cant figure why

halcyon breach
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However without knowing more, I can tell your ilvl is low since those stats are way off my own values, so simply just focus on getting more gear

unreal zenith
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498 - so guess its low hehe.
Thanks banezi!

latent moss
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498 critcake

unreal zenith
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just got back to retail a couple of days ago mate 😉

zealous escarp
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what is the prio between whirlind and MS

halcyon breach
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MS > WW > OP during CS
MS > OP > WW outside of CS

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However using WW outside of CS is a very minor difference, to guaranteeing 2 WW's inside of CS

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As long as someone MS' on CD, and generally speaking follows the prio, they'll do good

latent moss
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i guess u could compare his casts to a kill with same kill time

zealous escarp
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thats what i am doing

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and i think there is a pb with execute

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what is the prio with exec

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i mean the rule

latent moss
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exe and ms with 2 ep stacks

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op if cant exe

zealous escarp
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its the same killtime

latent moss
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so exe exe exe/op ms

zealous escarp
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what is 2 ep stacks

latent moss
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executioner's precision

zealous escarp
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its a talent ?

latent moss
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exe applies a debuff that increases ms damage

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yes

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bottom right

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of the tree

zealous escarp
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oh yes ok

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its ex ex ms

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ex ex ms

latent moss
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u cant due to cd

zealous escarp
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like OP becomes a filler ?

latent moss
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so u do 2exe -> exe/op ->

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ms

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depending on rage

zealous escarp
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it overstack if you do 3 no ?

latent moss
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u do but u dont have anything else to press

zealous escarp
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hmm

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is that good here ?

latent moss
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ye looks right to me

zealous escarp
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too much exec no?

latent moss
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that is bad yes

zealous escarp
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ok thx a lot

zealous escarp
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is there a rule about rage and exec ??

steel furnace
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2 exec then 1 MS

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I end up 2 exec, 1 overpower then ms since its not off cd fast enough

latent moss
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its 2x exe -> exe/op depending on rage -> ms

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exe/op i do it by feel but im sure there is a magic number in the apl

steel furnace
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good point actually, haven't thought to do 3 executes if rage is still high weird

olive oracle
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How is arms looking in TWW vs Fury atm?

latent moss
olive oracle
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lmao

gaunt minnow
eternal vortex
thick kelp
clever crag
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That means shit ?

soft fox
tame zenith
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i am become evoker

dusty summit
soft fox
sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
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her.

uncut shard
olive nest
eternal vortex
boreal quartz
dawn stag
halcyon breach
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speed very potent tertiary

boreal quartz
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truly massive

silk spade
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(do not look up magmorax heroic fury warrior in wcl)

boreal quartz
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is it bullion week

dire hinge
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it do be

sacred zodiac
dull siren
sacred zodiac
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eating

old urchin
astral yarrow
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Is fury faster than arms detective

sacred zodiac
dire hinge
halcyon breach
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That's about it

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(They can also equip an offhand with speed if you want to be technical)

teal fossil
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dont forget

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smf

elfin kindle
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can you sim dif omnious buffs togehter?

olive nest
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Yes

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Put your /simc info into advanced sim
And at the bottom of the text box below “checksum”
Paste the text above

elfin kindle
gaunt owl
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good job boys keep dooming !

minor gust
crude needle
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what crafted items are you guys running with for just m+?

minor gust
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double bsl

crude needle
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Crit haste?

olive nest
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Sims stats to be optimal otherwise Crit haste

gaunt owl
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ahah so funny

minor gust
livid furnace
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Could someone please perhaps have a very quick look over my Mythic Volocross kill...getting now where near my sim dps and just not sure at all what i am doing wrong

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wrong one lol

hazy flower
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1 usage of lego for starters

livid furnace
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can that make a big diff though

hazy flower
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youre slamming A LOT

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with no slam talents

livid furnace
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ok using it as a filler when OP and MS is on cooldown

hazy flower
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exe phase looks bad considering you have windfury

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I barely see triple exes

hazy flower
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you use tc as a filler when op and ms are on cooldown

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when op ms and ww*

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especially since you dont have slam talents

livid furnace
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ok really helpful thank you

Ok so TC as Filler

On Execute phase i always just do

Exc/Exc/OP/MS

and just repeat this

Should I be doing 3 x EXC and MS then?

hazy flower
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if you can afford the ms yes

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You had winfury which makes exe phase much smoother

livid furnace
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Isn't OP important to get in for the 30% MS buff?

hazy flower
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exe is still better

livid furnace
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ok i find i can easily get 3 Exc and Ms but alway just put the OP in

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Thanks bud

hazy flower
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nah put the 3rd exe in if you can

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and dont forget to use your cds (lego)

livid furnace
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Ok will hit Lego on pull then

Been holding it

hazy flower
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Nah that didnt change anything in your kill

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it was sub 4 mins

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and u used lego once at 0:50

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you had minute to use it when lego came back and before the boss died

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on fast kills sure but if its a guild run you should have +/- kill timer in mind n pop lego somewhere so that u dont lose a cast

livid furnace
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Ok good advice thanks bud

minor gust
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one minor thing roar before ava/cs you dont wanna be pressing a global in cs that doesnt spend rage unless it op

rustic wing
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OCE or Icon? They sim about the same for me. Trying to figure out what to do with my bullions.

hallow turtle
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OCE has a higher potential with all buffs.

gray steeple
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And a lower potential without buffs. Depends on what you want it for and what others are running.

wooden tide
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youll be able to buyu another next week so either or i guess

crisp pollen
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are there issues with augury simming lower than how it actually performs?

gray steeple
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I've been running with 1 in the trinket mix and it usually seems to do better than any sims indicate.

crisp pollen
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running a dslice sim rn, but in 5t/40 sec augury was a 15% downgrade compared to irideus frag

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which I guess makes sense because fragment would be up 50% of that time

gray steeple
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in ST, Signet beats Augury, for me, in 5-minute sims. Augury wins on 3 and it's a tossup on 4. For MT, Augury + Fragment were simming best until I got a Pips.

crisp pollen
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appreciate the feedback, gonna do some more simming!

paper gulch
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I think its very situational. I have better experiences when tanks pull bigger but w key or individual pack pugs give lower readings.

inner wasp
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do i go into the elden ring dlc with radahn armor + greatsword or bull goat armor + giant crusher

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heavy or superheavy

outer holly
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I killed patches the moment I saw him

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that mf ain't allowed to live in my save files

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no bull goat for you

lunar lotus
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call to chaos or primal flame with chromatic essence for m+?

inner wasp
silk spade
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greatsword best weapon in the game

outer holly
vast surge
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Hi everyone, would like a check the M+ Bladestorm + Torment build.

In ST does it matter a lot if I send Avatar with TR before Bladestorm as my opener then warbreaker into the standard rotation?
Or do I have to hold avatar to cast with WB?\

inner wasp
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so you roar/ava, warbreaker, bladestorm

ornate steppe
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any can help?

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who is the best % stats for arms?

vast surge
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I believe BS damage in ST is negligible, so the idea is to maximise the number of MS casts that are in your WB window so you go TR>BS>WB+AV
I'm just wondering if it's a big dps loss to go AV+TR > BS > WB

dire hinge
vast surge
dire hinge
# ornate steppe who is the best % stats for arms?

You'll want to leverage Raidbots to find specific stat numbers. Arms likes all stats in various amounts, preferring heavy Crit/Haste/Mast, but the exact amount you want of each will depend on the other gear that you're wearing

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of course! good luck out there!

inner wasp
dire hinge
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The rationale is to have Hurricane rolling for your major CDs, while bladestorm itself does really mediocre damage in single target.

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tbh i'll even just pre-cast it when i see the tank hoofing it over

inner wasp
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i thought only fury bladestorm did mediocre dmg and arms did good dmg

dire hinge
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in single target* it's pretty rough

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in AoE it owns, as they say

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you definitely want to WB->BS in AoE, that pumps real hard

steel furnace
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In keys on bosses do you charge in thunder clap, bladestorm and then do single target roation? Or is it not worth using bladestorm for the buff

steel furnace
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Oh lol, what a coincidence

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Sweet

robust ridge
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It happens, coincidences are weird

steel furnace
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Im in the trueman show

dire hinge
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(i love that movie)

thick kelp
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Love you Hrothmar

dire hinge
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I love the nutrious and home made taste of BS Before CDs!

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in single target

obsidian topaz
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Why not pop leggo before bladestorm?

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Might get another use or two out of it over the course or a dungeon

dire hinge
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You can lead with lego, but Lego -> (seconds of bladestorming) causes a lower initial burst than just using it afterwards
The main focus is to use it outside of your CS window since the lego doesn't not benefit from any of your major CDs.

frigid lava
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Proc tier before leggo though

covert oyster
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what are the best trinkets for m8-m10 levels?

honest girder
slow saddle
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Id prob say highroll aug with puzzle

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Or stat stick puzzle if grp has the icon

quartz cedar
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Good morning, Skyhold!

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So as my ilevel has gone up, my ilevel parsing has dropped into the black, even though it feels like im doing good DPS (usually top 3)

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what's the deal with ilevel parsing? do i really suck that bad compared to others with my ilevel?

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that's heroic tindral, btw. lots of moving, seed collecting, etc, so not really possible to stay on the boss 100% of the time

latent moss
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tindral parses lmao

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boss doesnt even count on allstars

latent moss
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u are at the ilvl of

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hof guilds killing bosses in 2 seconds

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or in the case of heroic

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boost runs where the warrior gets to deal all the damage

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(tindral moment)

quartz cedar
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ok, so not a metric i should concern myself with

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thank you

boreal quartz
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only the real log % matters

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and tindral is a rlly bad one to look at

latent moss
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i did some unspeakable padding

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back in s3

quartz cedar
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i just used tindral because it happened to be the log i was looking at

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my ilevel parses across all the bosses in amidrassil are similarly in the black

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correction, im at 70% for fyrakk

latent moss
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s4 moment

boreal quartz
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😔

latent moss
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AHHAHAHAH

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HELL NA

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ARE U READY

boreal quartz
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tho tbf this isnt gna happen without boost

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ye u had som 300 shit

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iirc

latent moss
boreal quartz
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nah

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bitch

latent moss
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legoless

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no leggo

boreal quartz
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loser

latent moss
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had a r1 boss dmg

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for quite some time

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was a boost run

boreal quartz
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idk i only got trash logs in boosts

latent moss
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no wf no pi

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bro its crazy

boreal quartz
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peaked at r3 below external frogs

latent moss
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i get a rank 7 on volc

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no wf

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no pi

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nothing

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annoying ass game

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imagine if timmas could get enhas in his weekly runs

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WAIT

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I HAVE THE DEMON

boreal quartz
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deadge

latent moss
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very juicy ms

gaunt owl
boreal quartz
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sub 1 mil no way

quartz cedar
#

those are some impressive parses man.

boreal quartz
#

or s3

latent moss
#

this was s3

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not even close to bis

boreal quartz
#

you play a boost at full gear

latent moss
boreal quartz
#

and u get 99 guaranteed if hands

latent moss
#

or i guess this is pretty close to bis idk

boreal quartz
#

bro that ring was sick

#

cringe trinket situation for u tho

latent moss
#

it was such a pain in the ass

#

making lariat neutral

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with that ring

dull siren
latent moss
#

pips goated

boreal quartz
#

it worked giga ez for m

#

e

latent moss
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bought pips out of respect

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and quit

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🫡

boreal quartz
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😔 ✊

#

pippas

dull siren
#

s4 is better

latent moss
#

vers proc on opener

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with leggo

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🫡

dull siren
#

Had to make old man @gaunt owl

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eat dirt on Tindral

boreal quartz
#

idk man ion care for tindral at all

dull siren
#

what you asked me to do

boreal quartz
#

O

#

the wb

dire hinge
# quartz cedar what's the deal with ilevel parsing? do i really suck that bad compared to othe...

some folks already weighed in here, but i'd add that the power gained from gear is not equal. Someone could have the legendary weapon, while someone else doesn't (but has higher ilvl gear elsewhere, on say, Wrists). The dps gain from the weapon vs wrists is astronomically different, but it's still considered "equal" when it comes to ilvl comparison. Look at ilvl parses with an extremely large grain of salt

latent moss
#

no flying up + wb?

dull siren
latent moss
dire hinge
#

mom i fwew up sadhamster

dull siren
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Idk

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I play too many arms wars so now my main war is fury

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wicked

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nothin better than being 100k above the 2nd guy

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@latent moss

dire hinge
#

condemn moment gladge

latent moss
#

fury???????

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so arms is that dead.... sadga

boreal quartz
#

frfr

dull siren
#

Fury is alive

gaunt owl
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Fury player just sux

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skill issue 100%

dull siren
#

i mean i do find it funny

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that i'm doing 40k+ / 100k+

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on some bosses

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over the public logs

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100k above on Primal Council
40k on Experiments
n more

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Idk what the fury players r doing

boreal quartz
#

surely its the pi

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bro we need cowfarmers return

latent moss
#

i knew it....

#

timmas unethical...

gaunt owl
dull siren
#

@latent moss Everyone is unethical

latent moss
#

disrespect to the dps spirit...

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game deficit...

dull siren
#

Has anyone beaten my

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Council Arms log yet tho

#

from Amirdrassil

latent moss
#

is there anyone playing the game

boreal quartz
#

clueless relevant metric

boreal quartz
#

i just know i hate council and let myself be benched on it if poss

dull siren
dull siren
gaunt owl
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council is so silly

dire hinge
#

not even close lol

finite mantle
#

Fillium owns so much

dire hinge
gaunt owl
#

you really need good rng

finite mantle
#

Seething coping Tmy could never

latent moss
#

gajeel spotted

dull siren
#

bro i got ducked

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3 times

#

on that

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622k

dull siren
#

what the fuck do you mean

#

good RNG

gaunt owl
#

dont lie Tmy

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or i'm gonna expose you

dull siren
#

let me find the log

gaunt owl
dull siren
#

it's a unlisted log

#

from pug run

boreal quartz
#

bro we had council last rota

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3 stack for 15 secs

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???? idk how

#

but insane value

dull siren
#

ok it was 2

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but was about to be 3

#

@gaunt owl

#

make the log public so @topaz hazel loses his R1

latent moss
#

real

untold trench
#

Ya go public, and the thorgast powers will be spotted

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cant do that

untold trench
olive nest
olive nest
sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
dawn stag
gaunt owl
woven wasp
finite mantle
thick kelp
hollow pulsar
#

Huh? Can someone elaborate please about the change?

sharp wyvern
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no change for warriors

#

dk lost 3 yards rogue gets to keep it for some reason and there is a chance ret is gonna be looked at

gaunt owl
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read the full article ?

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feral lost their range too

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its so stupid and inconsistent anyway

#

lets get parried

sharp wyvern
#

they said your positioning is important which means blizz doesnt want us to stand in the soaks infront of bosses

gaunt owl
#

ranged can do whatever the fuck they are doing

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still dont know or understand positioning

#

but the shit boss that randomly turn because why not is gonna parry our CS and Demolish

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how many blizzard dev even play mythic anyway ?

#

and full clear

sharp wyvern
quaint otter
#

halondrus was my fav fight

#

p3 ☠️

steel furnace
#

does signet fall off between tindral platforms?

hexed saddle
#

no

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u never leave combat

steel furnace
#

Poggers

pure otter
#

yay funny sark cape soon

copper summit
#

which dragon should i get from academy

#

with this? mastery?

boreal remnant
#

multiplicative haste increase for all your bleeds and dots is nice

nova marsh
#

Vers is better usually

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You get free Dr, and because ur vers is usually a lot lower then other stats you get less diminishing returns

#

Mastery would be nice if it wasn't rating

ornate steppe
#

who is the best % for all stats?

#

crit mastery vers and haste

nova marsh
#

There isn't really a best %. I think ideal is like

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40/40/20/10

#

But Sims know best for stats

copper summit
#

also for last boss in ulda i know u can spell reflect the debuff.. but sometimes it doesnt work and i still get it? when do i spell reflect?

ornate steppe
#

or with it

nova marsh
#

Yes without

#

But like I said

#

Sims know best

noble anvil
#

what do you guys think

#

i wanna replace my box

#

am thinking call to chaos or dreadplate

copper summit
#

what lvl keys u doing?

noble anvil
#

8-10s boosts no healer

eternal vortex
#

I think ctc is fine if you are doing 8-10s

#

I like augury as arms as well too but makes sure sim first

copper summit
#

why are u simiing 5boss 1min 30 sec?

noble anvil
#

for aoe ?

boreal remnant
ornate steppe
#

who is the freshmeat here s?

hard cobalt
boreal remnant
#

it is though

sacred zodiac
#

is it

hard cobalt
#

is it tho

teal fossil
#

there are still downsides to it

hard cobalt
teal fossil
#

fug

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57 is hard

#

but deswind put a lot of work into it

hard cobalt
#

yea there’s just like 2 downsides ig

#

as someone with multi ksm, clearly I would know

olive nest
clever notch
#

High someone knows a WA that tracks my uptime of my tier sets buff?

frigid lava
#

make one.

#

It's one of the simpliest

eternal vortex
potent portal
#

Finally got to Mythic Tswift for the first time last night… any tips would be appreciated

frigid lava
#

Use travis

noble anvil
#

what do you guys think ? i wanna pump boosting 8-12 no healer and i hate using puzzle box

noble anvil
#

i really wanna try ctc but not sure if its a good call

arctic iris
#

When you are designing your UI, make sure that everything that you are adding to it is something that you actually need to know or look at during combat. Otherwise, you end up with a setup that is flooded with useless information and it distracts you from the stuff that actually matters

nimble cairn
#

I know the Legendary is best weapon for Arms, but what's second best, cause my luck is shit?

noble anvil
#

i would say ashkandur

#

its not the best stats to get on a weapon but the equip effect is decent

#

its does between 0.8-2% overall in st or aoe

nimble cairn
#

Even with bad stats it's still better than all the others outside of the Leggo?

nimble cairn
#

Even though it has a low chance, does it proc decent?

#

Which would give me better dps; Ashkandur or Ominous Chromatic Essence?

#

I can't sim them as I don't have the paid raidbots.

noble anvil
#

you can sim them tho

#

go to droptimizer and run the vendor sim

#

it will have both

nimble cairn
#

I don't have them though. I only have 2 Buillion for one

#

Nevermind, I'm stupid. I see it now

cold vigil
#

for a short term dmg reduction is it beter to switch to def stance and then back to battle or just spend a gcd on impending victory?

#

i imagine you lose more dmg with def stance than just using one gcd

halcyon breach
#

If all you care about "what will cost me the most damage" then it's def stance

swift crown
#

Very helpful ty yellow name Banezi

halcyon breach
#

hello schmidi king

#

hope you're having a good evening

swift crown
#

hello Kaiser Banezi

#

Very good I got some nice goulash soup

halcyon breach
#

holy moly goulash owns very hard

#

can I get 1 spoonful

swift crown
#

I shall feed you

daring heron
halcyon breach
cold vigil
halcyon breach
#

It simply heals the damage you've already taken

cold vigil
halcyon breach
#

sure

#

If you want to be pedantic use neither because they're both a dps loss

cold vigil
#

being dead is a dps loss

halcyon breach
#

Until you reach 0 then figure out if you just needed the heal or def stance

#

Or both for that matter

calm hare
#

Hey noobish question, but how many taregts should i be vs to justify using cleave over ms? 3?

halcyon breach
#

3 or above if no SS, 5 or above with SS

#

MS at all times regardless of target count if high prio mob

calm hare
#

cheers

dull siren
#

Good 2x Mythic Boosts

lost jackal
#

What trinkets should i get with the bullions for m+?

tame mirage
#

for raid pulls, do you precast puzzle box into the opener?

old urchin
hazy flower
#

warrior meta when

reef glade
#

now

#

is all you’ll get

hazy flower
#

eta gg

#

first season I'm not playing warrior

strange perch
#

so i got the lego on my 14th kill today, and i dont have to craft it?

#

nvm

reef glade
#

Yea… keks

#

anyway Yeap still whole quest chain

#

I imagine mats can’t be that expensive anymore surely like 2 months till they become obsolete

halcyon breach
#

I paid like 90k a week ago to make mine

#

So yeah prices are dead

hard cobalt
fossil thistle
halcyon breach
fossil thistle
#

Ph sheesh that’s cheap

frigid lava
#

I think I paid nearly 200k.

#

😦

#

like... 2nd week of this season or so

crimson nimbus
#

for arms with no tier do we just use the standard pin builds regardless?

frigid lava
#

high ilvl

reef glade
#

u might not take cleave on aoe tho

#

regardless just about only change if it even is one

crimson nimbus
#

ok sweet

#

i guess maybe s3 guides or something

#

also for m+ does execute phase take prio over our aoe rotation in large packs?

waxen nimbus
#

What's the optimal rotation during the cs window with TOM? Do I keep overpowering or should I try to spend rage every gcd by pressing more slams or thunder clap? Is it better to get higher stacks of TOM or to maintain the normal rotation

lost jackal
#

What trinkets should i get with the bullions for m+?

uncut tangle
#

the only thing that really changes with tom, is that you want to try to include 2x storm of swords whirlwinds, the rest is regular ms-> op shit, you can squeeze out some more slams, but with s4 tier and EB it kinda incentivizes just pressing MS as much as possible

#

oce, augury are p good for m+

boreal remnant
#

at what point do you start to prio thunderclap in large mob count situations over other abilities

uncut tangle
#

tc does like no dam

#

use it to apply rend > 1 target

boreal remnant
#

yeah I know but at what point do you start to prio applying rend to targets over other things

#

feel like no matter the target count you never really prio it over op cleave or ww

uncut tangle
#

basically yeah

#

if it;s gonna fall off or in pandemic press it, otherwise cleave/op/bs

boreal remnant
#

in pandemic?

uncut tangle
#

if a dot is >30%, if you re-apply it before it falls off, the remaining duration gets added to the dot's timer*

#

I think for rend its 3.5? seconds

#

it's why on icyveins it says to reapply rend if there is less than 3 seconds remaining on the debuff, forgot to hit enter lmao

formal verge
#

need to join DH discord to ask, but how does a DH pull Drakanoid trash onto the Garden trash for first pull in academy? I had it done in my 17 but friend trying to do it as well

reef glade
#

rend lasts like 20 seconds so pandemic range i think could b like even around 6 or 7 seconds and its fine

calm hare
#

Why isnt Augury a good trinket for arms? Just curious. I use it alot for fury and just swaped to arms and just being curious why it isnt used. Did 6-6.5% of my dmg in a dung.

magic canopy
#

its not bad its just not as good as other trinkets

#

Crit and Mastery scale VERY well in AoE so while it is doing a decent amount of your dam, it's not buffing 90% of your kit with the STR or stats from a different trinket.

#

In single target we are forever plagued by Test of Might which makes it even worse considering you are simply negative 300 or more str during a ToM window

calm hare
#

aah okay cheers!

#

atm for keys i use Augury and Puzzlebox but looking to replace Augury then i guess 🙂 oce would be good?

eternal vortex
#

Oce icon or pips

#

Depends on your grp buff

calm hare
#

if no buff? icon?

eternal vortex
#

No buff pip

calm hare
#

should i treat whirlwind as a rage dump?

zinc wolf
#

You should treat it with respect

spark saffron
#

simply furry being quick slices and arms being bam bam bam

slow saddle
#

Augery isnt bad as arms btw

#

But nelths call

boreal quartz
#

neither are bad

#

but there's better options

slow saddle
#

Icon?

boreal quartz
#

i usually just default oce box in keys

#

but icon is prolly better with neither fully buffed

spark saffron
#

im using neltharus for m+

#

and makes me overloaded with crt stat

boreal quartz
#

oce is my best st option in aoe build

#

i like doign st

waxen nimbus
#

Can you channel the puzzle box cast while moving?

eternal vortex
#

Ctc isnt bad but i just cant like the fact of extra dmg taken on high keys

#

5% is a lot

#

That and sark cloak

crimson nimbus
#

is going pips + icon that bad? feels like the best chill for alt mid range m+ pugging

boreal quartz
#

completely okay

livid cloak
#

I've found not using box to be nice. Only because I'm not great at lining up all my cds to make it super valuable and so I end up sitting on it a bit, so I went to 2 passives

waxen nimbus
#

Having to stop to channel as a melee sounds annoying

livid cloak
#

It's not bad but it feels bad just having avatar with box instead of everything

#

I'm only doing 12s and 13s so midrange stuff but it still feels fine with no box

somber lance
#

did they do something to leap?

#

im pulling shit i dont usually pull

#

like at the end of ULD

#

or NELTH

#

sometimes i leap between packs and it's pulling whereas before it wasn't

livid cloak
#

Idk but I feel like I'm dying on last boss in halls leaping through the intermission gauntlet when I used to not have issues

somber lance
#

they broke my heroic leap

#

what will we do

noble anvil
#

do you guys know if first 2 bosses can be solo tanked ?

#

mythic

dire hinge
# noble anvil mythic

Igira absolutely not, her auto attacks cleave its damage to the next closest person, so it'll just one-shot people across your raid

noble anvil
#

i mean it does the same thing on hc and it solo tankable

#

i think it has a range for the cleave

#

cuz if everyone stayed on the back on heroic nobody gets hit

#

am not sure if its the same thing on mythic

dire hinge
#

ah, gocha, i dont think i realized it had a range to it

#

seems like blood dk can solo it, unsure about other tanks

noble anvil
#

wait why only bdks

dire hinge
#

Not “only”, I’m just confirming I saw a DK do it after poking around— but didn’t see other ones so they’re unconfirmed

#

If you don’t get a solid answer here, #protection might have better insights since it’s their role

noble anvil
#

will ask there, ty

stable osprey
#

whats the best combo for mythic raid trinkets btw?

reef glade
#

Oce with all buffs and signet brand long fights/some onuse or other passive for shorter fights

#

like ashes/puzzle box/pip/augury

#

Trampling hoof also ok I think but idk can bullion anything atp

stable osprey
#

well using now oce / icon for raid and m+

reef glade
#

Yea plenty fine enough but prolly something other than icon would be lil better

#

Box isn’t exactly farmable but I think ashes is still pretty damn good if u use it like a puzzle box, as in still only hit on the 3min cd

wanton lily
#

hi

reef glade
slow saddle
reef glade
#

(u will never)

boreal quartz
#

just oce brand and be snoozer

outer holly
#

Sounds about right. If you wanna parse you're gonna have to swap in branch as your on use for short fights, but brand is gonna win out on the fights that matter.

boreal quartz
#

idk if sark is insane for brand tbf

halcyon breach
#

For us, it's practically a 5 minute fight with like 30-40 sec downtime?

#

Something like that

boreal quartz
#

(i dont have brand and dont have 4 key weekly completed yet)

halcyon breach
#

And that was with rat chars

boreal quartz
#

idk its not make or break if u just crit in execute

#

80% on ms 80% on exe bedge

sharp flame
#

question i just got back why do we run warlords torment in M+ now?

boreal quartz
#

yes

halcyon breach
#

Short answer, it's better

#

Long answer, it gives you a lot more ST for a not so big AoE loss (and it's easier to play with)

boreal quartz
#

its also less cringe

#

being afk in bs for 12 secs per pull is not it

strange perch
#

Is arms more dmg or fury

outer holly
#

Arms for raid, fury has good enough aoe that it keeps up with arms in m+

strange perch
#

@boreal quartz @fresh spire do you think with the current tierset? running unhinged over hurricane? is a good alternative?

reef glade
#

I mean u can try to sim each talent

#

in aoe it’s basically guaranteed to be way worse not sure about what the st benefit would be tho

#

still either way would be unlikely u don’t want more aoe dmg in cases you’d use bladestorm (m+ or some pad raid fights) vs going unhinged for some minuscule single target gain (if it even is one)

#

But yea if u just like sim the bs talents in patchwerk singletarget it’d probably be as accurate as anything else to what difference it might make, just consider the above for the reasons why you almost never take it anyway

#

I think like pvp is the only place that actually sees real use cuz idk 2 more mortal strikes is cool for like instant dmg and healing reduction and whatever else

candid jasper
#

thinking about trying an arms alt for fun. can they hang in low keys (~8 to 10) without the leggo wep?

reef glade
#

Ya why not

#

Stuff does too fast anyway so maybe helps a little having cds last a bit longer

noble anvil
#

can we spell reflect first boss in AV ?

reef glade
#

Uh only deflect I think

#

To reduce tank dmg

#

Doesn’t do dmg to boss

noble anvil
#

ah

hazy flower
#

first and last are deflects yes

reef glade
#

O yea last has one too ig

vagrant grove
#

guys what buff use arms for this trinket?

hollow axle
#

You need to sim yourself

#

Most of the time haste or crit

hallow turtle
hallow turtle
# vagrant grove guys what buff use arms for this trinket?

copy=Bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/emerald/obsidian/ruby

copy=Emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/obsidian/ruby

copy=Obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/ruby

copy=Azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=bronze/emerald/obsidian/ruby

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dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/obsidian

boreal remnant
#

If you do use advance sim, you just paste in your simc string into there and paste this block of text above at the bottom of it. Otherwise, what I do is I just do a top gear sim with each of the buffs to see difinitively which buff with what gear is the best.

rough fractal
#

Hey guys. How is arms these days in terms of aoe damage? I got my warrior to 70 and love bladestorm.

dire hinge
#

and if you love bladestorm, it'll be very present in The War Within in a months with the Slayer hero talent tree

arctic iris
dire hinge
#

hurricane (via Bladestorm) do be real powerful though

arctic iris
#

Oh, for sure. I'm just saying that the actual direct damage it deals is nothing special

#

Not sure how much that changes with Slayer in the expansion

steep delta
#

Can you stack the same embellishment?

halcyon breach
#

Yes

#

It will just double the effect

steep delta
#

Thank you

swift crown
#

@halcyon breach rise and shine king

halcyon breach
crimson nimbus
#

is there anything we can use in prepull countdown besides box?

cold garnet
#

yes avatar and thunderous roar

crimson nimbus
#

nice

latent hull
#

???????????????

fickle lotus
#

What ?

swift crown
#

me going to Skyhold to spread misinformation

cold garnet
#

it’s not misinformation

#

you can use it in prepull

#

it’s not good but it can be used 🙂

halcyon breach
#

You can do a lot of stuff pre-pull but that doesn't mean there's a reason to, nor share it to someone who might just think using Avatar pre-pull before Box is a smart idea

quasi torrent
#

Rawr x3

cold garnet
#

he didn’t ask before box, he asked what can be used

crimson nimbus
#

yteah

#

i got gridfed

#

i meant like would it reset on the pull start

real flint
#

And for any normal person with something to stop the breeze from going all the way through, that means actuall usefull advice that won't screw you over. Not "what buttons can i click to waste all my damage" 😂

crimson nimbus
#

well i tried it and learned

real flint
#

Good that you learned, already above average smarts for the interwebz 😄

halcyon breach
#

The only pre-pull stuff you gotta worry about is using Puzzle

#

That's it

latent hull
#

Maybe he meant using avatar and roar b4 warbreaker or something

#

Cuz thats how u should dew it

twilit lake
#

I don't really DPS, so this is my understanding of arms, hope its not too far off

clever crag
#

Accurate

#

You do BIG hits and HUGE aoe dmg

olive nest
#

Next season we play worlds smallest violin

clever crag
#

Fury season ?

eternal vortex
clever crag
#

Never

#

Warrior and prot are 2 different things

#

Would rather play ret than prot

thick kelp
#

prot warrior tier warrior

iron vigil
#

What are bis embellishments for raids? blue silken on neck and vers wrists?

iron vigil
#

and what is second slot for bsl? also wrists?

eternal vortex
#

Wrist belt boots are general options

uncut tangle
#

neck w/ BSL

#

customizable stats,

#

then either vers bracers or bsl bracers

strange perch
#

do yall charge in or fyralath charge in?

#

just got the lego last weekend and not sure since regular charge gives resource

halcyon breach
#

You Charge -> MS -> Lego

#

Using Fyr'alath on pull means you lose out on rage, and the 10% damage bonus from applying the mark

strange perch
#

got it! i thought that was the case, but just wanted to double check

#

ty and GM btw Banezi

halcyon breach
#

gm

fair kiln
#

hey guys, how's warrior looking for tww?

#

thinking of swapping from outlaw rogue cause I wanna turn my brain off

slender sonnet