#arms
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i personally think rend needs to come a bit earlier
6 gcds without rend is a lot of damage
Using axe after charge sometimes would use up the CD but not activate the skill
like it cancels it
so I always try to get a MS or clap first
This is a good point I think I’m going to play around with MS and Rend cast before Lego
Depends if I can reliably have the rage for both
This happens if you use lego mid charge, before charge hits
@halcyon breach Freeze! :balls:
gg
i have now done my yoimiya clear
burgeon yoimiya
burgeon yoimiya
burgeon yoimiya
https://i.imgur.com/iNH2jQi.png
burgir yoimiya

only have 1 of the characters in that team

I was like a little scared looking at spiral abyss mobs but then once I did it it was actually a joke
i mean u just need shit that can deal with multiwave + hydro
Ah... done for the week
Alhaitham spread and neuvillete 
vibe checked
I'm kinda struggling with knowing what to prioritize when I have ms, op, and ww up
wanna get ww on cd and spend the rage but Idk I feel like I keep just sitting on it when I keep getting op and ms resets
Single target?
yeah
Ms > op > ww unless you're in cs
Ms > ww > op in cs
To burn rage for test of night
Might
men 
It has left me getting questioned by my friends tho I have 4 triple crowned men and 0 triple crowned women so far
so I’m working towards upping number to beat allegations
navia/hutao both have 2 and are like “ok” to get 3
Think it took more tinkering than anything else this season but finally in the 40/40 club.
haste is my lowest stat
i think mine are mastery > vers = crit > haste
wait this isnt fury chat
never mind my stats are not tuned for that
What trinkets do you guys run in M+
box and oce
depends on your current gear
best to sim topgear and swap the buff to see whats cooking
Vers for me
Turns out when half your gear is crafted your stats are pretty well balanced
Twas the black for me
Just need a mythic chest piece still then I get to log off 
soon ready to uninstall !
“Release meee”
Im tindral belt away from bis

Can you provide a link to your armory? Im curious because those are the same stats im running but you have 16% more mastery
Thank you. What are you running in your OCE? Mastery?
haste
is it not a good week to run BSL?
its always a good week
i mean its fine at the start of the first pull
but after that I feel like its not usually up for the start of next pulls
what are the affix ?
bursting
mmh can be tricky on bursting
yes im running second wind
but it doesnt activate as soon as you go over 90% right? takes a bit of time?
it does have a weird ICD
if you get back and forth between 90%
its not gonna apply it asap
ive got shadowflame patches from prot I could use
How much rage overcapping is normal?
Yes
Yes
Yes
🤣
But according to the logs analyzer it says I missed out on colossal smashes and avatars because of rage waste 🤔
I dont think that means youre overcapping
I think its analyzing rage spent during CS window vs what you could have spent.
And overcapping on overpower, but if I get giga procs thats pretty wierd
Depends on what youre doing IMHO
if youre in M+ and are running Dreadnaught, then who cares
A raidboss
Well on raid bosses thats important because im assuming you're also running test of might, correct?
wowanalyzer isnt up to date
always follow prio
zugzugzugy
Yeah
Yep
Mortal strike SMorc
Mortal Stroke
my anevrism is full blown
its summer time soon
season i mean
and its tomorrow
since its a 365 days year
Here comes the sun, do do do do
its ok you're only off by .75
thats a big diff !
meh, 18 hours
feel like alot of bosses tanks always moving shit
so before you can send axe sometimes i just slip the clap in
couldnt you not clap/axe at same time anyway not noticed tbh
Was messing with my gear, got my new stat setup
I used augury before, augury averaged 12% uptime in a dungeon, where call to chaos averaged 20%
Still not sure which is better
I'm surprised Crit is simming that low with augury
The sim is saying that augury is better but when I check details it shows more uptime on the call to chaos. The question is 5200 strength versus unpredictable (12%) uptime on a 50% increased dmg buff that may not proc when you want it to
Especially on a tyrannical week where youd like to see it on a boss
idk, this is my own logic.
does ex prio stay the same even with EB?
augury or call to chaos?
surely you just play pbox oce for everything
ctc is troll if you're pushing and pbox is pretty good for the way you tend to play keys
Im not pushing high IO this season, box just feels awful to press
at what level is ctc considered troll?
yes, you only send MS with 2x "Executioner's Precision" stacks.
Technically EB lets you have MS->Exe->Exe->MS (if EB resets your MS, and you have the rage for it), but technically it doesn't change your rotation
anyone consider the ouroboros necklet?
you can sim it to see if it's good for your current gear, but generally we use neck for embellishment. If you move your embelishments elsewhere, it limits your options, lower stats, or hinders something else (compartively)
dont buy with bullon imo
but if you get it natty
go for it
im unertain of what to buy at this point
i have a 528 nelth but id rather not use that for keys ideally
i already have been so i could just do a 535
ive seen a lot of people use ashes
dont listen to them, ctc for life
i really hate puzzlebox
ctc?
I wasn't a pbox fan until I realized you could use it pre dungeon start for a free cd reset
peak performance
I'm 528... and not even close to that
pbox is kinda ass cause of the cast time
I only use pbox on 4min fights. For 3 min and shorter I use branch
Got 2 casts of branch in on mythic reclear volcoross. Was fantastic.
i mean in m+ not raid haha
yeah feels horrid
how
2x bsl, icon, oce
But thats only self buffs
Someone get this guy 67 stam stat
with out raid crit talent
that 11% leech
I only have one BSL... thinking about making another
mandatory imo
yea ... im not pushing io anymore. no need for vers bracers
i mean im almost 3400 and still not having issues running call
thats why i dont get why people hate on it so much
I get about 70~80% BSL uptime
same
as prot.. probably 80~90% lol
low 70s in a key
sus
getting below 70 means most of the time that it's a scuffed key
depends on a key obv

i need more tertiaries
oh shit wait i have a pair of boots i can catalyze and get speed folded in
YEAHHH BUDDY
A self healing avoiding racecar
gotta go fast
Whats the highest possible Ilvl ?
530?
sounds about right
hi is there a pb here ?
i think my war doesnt press MS enough no ?
what do you think guys pls
with consumables not fully upgraded yet
can you drop full log?
idk looks fine to me
arms openers are w/e you can ms to gamble a 4p proc so ur leggo does more
there was a sim somewhere i think ppaw did it of like 9 different openers and it legit doesnt matter xd
he is not using overpower to get stronger casts on mortal strike ideally from martial prowess i think outside of execute
It's just like Slaughtering Strikes for Fury (at least on ST)
exhil blows proc so 2 ms back to back and no pb
r1 volc
i think ms before lego is worth doing tho
hes sometimes clicking 3 times execute in exe phase and thunderclap too
if it was s3, i see 2 mortal strikes and 1 op that shouldnt be there
3x Execute is not bad, it is only bad if they weren't able to MS after the 3rd Execute
However TC is very bad in Execute
9 executes and op into ms
cursed tech
Hey guys 🙂
Cant seem to find anything online regarding stat caps.
I want to enchant my rings and method-guide says i should choose crit or haste depending on my current stats.
im 28% crit (3602 points) and 37% haste (5845 points) - should i focus crit?
My mastery is 28% (2726 points) btw.
Thank you and have a great day! 🙂
3 executes arent bad if you are still stacking Ashen Jurgernaut
Don't worry about any of this, simply go to raidbots and sim your character in top gear for stats
If you don't know how to, there are guides on how to use raidbots
but why is he dealing so low ahaha
i cant figure why
However without knowing more, I can tell your ilvl is low since those stats are way off my own values, so simply just focus on getting more gear
498 - so guess its low hehe.
Thanks banezi!
498 
just got back to retail a couple of days ago mate 😉
what is the prio between whirlind and MS
MS > WW > OP during CS
MS > OP > WW outside of CS
However using WW outside of CS is a very minor difference, to guaranteeing 2 WW's inside of CS
As long as someone MS' on CD, and generally speaking follows the prio, they'll do good
i guess u could compare his casts to a kill with same kill time
thats what i am doing
and i think there is a pb with execute
what is the prio with exec
i mean the rule
its the same killtime
so exe exe exe/op ms
what is 2 ep stacks
executioner's precision
its a talent ?
u cant due to cd
like OP becomes a filler ?
why 2 exe -> exe
it overstack if you do 3 no ?
u do but u dont have anything else to press
ye looks right to me
that is bad yes
ok thx a lot
is there a rule about rage and exec ??
2 exec then 1 MS
I end up 2 exec, 1 overpower then ms since its not off cd fast enough
its 2x exe -> exe/op depending on rage -> ms
exe/op i do it by feel but im sure there is a magic number in the apl
good point actually, haven't thought to do 3 executes if rage is still high 
How is arms looking in TWW vs Fury atm?

lmao



That means shit ?
can always join the DK ranks
i am become evoker
Yes

????
!
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speed very potent tertiary
truly massive
that's what i did

(do not look up magmorax heroic fury warrior in wcl)
it do be
it is throat punch week
spongie eat a frog
eating
So true in my case. I kept dying on Smoldy to fire rings because I’m not speedy boi Fury any more.
Is fury faster than arms 
me when i make shit up
13min investigative youtube video where i tell you my life story in the middle
They get 10% movespeed while enraged
That's about it
(They can also equip an offhand with speed if you want to be technical)
Fury faster confirmed

can you sim dif omnious buffs togehter?
Yes
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Put your /simc info into advanced sim
And at the bottom of the text box below “checksum”
Paste the text above
thank you
good job boys keep dooming !

what crafted items are you guys running with for just m+?
double bsl
Crit haste?
Sims stats to be optimal otherwise Crit haste

Could someone please perhaps have a very quick look over my Mythic Volocross kill...getting now where near my sim dps and just not sure at all what i am doing wrong
wrong one lol
1 usage of lego for starters
can that make a big diff though
ok using it as a filler when OP and MS is on cooldown
you dont do that
you use tc as a filler when op and ms are on cooldown
when op ms and ww*
especially since you dont have slam talents
ok really helpful thank you
Ok so TC as Filler
On Execute phase i always just do
Exc/Exc/OP/MS
and just repeat this
Should I be doing 3 x EXC and MS then?
Isn't OP important to get in for the 30% MS buff?
exe is still better
Ok will hit Lego on pull then
Been holding it
Nah that didnt change anything in your kill
it was sub 4 mins
and u used lego once at 0:50
you had minute to use it when lego came back and before the boss died
on fast kills sure but if its a guild run you should have +/- kill timer in mind n pop lego somewhere so that u dont lose a cast
Ok good advice thanks bud
one minor thing roar before ava/cs you dont wanna be pressing a global in cs that doesnt spend rage unless it op
OCE or Icon? They sim about the same for me. Trying to figure out what to do with my bullions.
OCE has a higher potential with all buffs.
And a lower potential without buffs. Depends on what you want it for and what others are running.
youll be able to buyu another next week so either or i guess
are there issues with augury simming lower than how it actually performs?
I've been running with 1 in the trinket mix and it usually seems to do better than any sims indicate.
running a dslice sim rn, but in 5t/40 sec augury was a 15% downgrade compared to irideus frag
which I guess makes sense because fragment would be up 50% of that time
in ST, Signet beats Augury, for me, in 5-minute sims. Augury wins on 3 and it's a tossup on 4. For MT, Augury + Fragment were simming best until I got a Pips.
appreciate the feedback, gonna do some more simming!
I think its very situational. I have better experiences when tanks pull bigger but w key or individual pack pugs give lower readings.
do i go into the elden ring dlc with radahn armor + greatsword or bull goat armor + giant crusher
heavy or superheavy
I killed patches the moment I saw him
that mf ain't allowed to live in my save files
no bull goat for you
call to chaos or primal flame with chromatic essence for m+?
radahn
im doing radahn armor + giant crusher for now
greatsword best weapon in the game
I remember this reddit post
Hi everyone, would like a check the M+ Bladestorm + Torment build.
In ST does it matter a lot if I send Avatar with TR before Bladestorm as my opener then warbreaker into the standard rotation?
Or do I have to hold avatar to cast with WB?\
you want to send bladestorm after warbreaker, just for the damage buff iirc
so you roar/ava, warbreaker, bladestorm
I believe BS damage in ST is negligible, so the idea is to maximise the number of MS casts that are in your WB window so you go TR>BS>WB+AV
I'm just wondering if it's a big dps loss to go AV+TR > BS > WB
in single target, you open with your Bladestorm first, and then do your major CDs afterwards. So if you had full CDs available to you, an operner in single target would be:
Charge -> Bladestorm -> Avatar+Roar -> Warbreaker -> (Opener rotation) -> Lego once CS falls off
Cries in not having the leggo but thanks!
You'll want to leverage Raidbots to find specific stat numbers. Arms likes all stats in various amounts, preferring heavy Crit/Haste/Mast, but the exact amount you want of each will depend on the other gear that you're wearing
of course! good luck out there!
ur just letting me be blatantly wrong without @ing me

The rationale is to have Hurricane rolling for your major CDs, while bladestorm itself does really mediocre damage in single target.
tbh i'll even just pre-cast it when i see the tank hoofing it over
i thought only fury bladestorm did mediocre dmg and arms did good dmg
in single target* it's pretty rough
in AoE it owns, as they say
you definitely want to WB->BS in AoE, that pumps real hard
In keys on bosses do you charge in thunder clap, bladestorm and then do single target roation? Or is it not worth using bladestorm for the buff
Read up maybe 10 messages
It happens, coincidences are weird
Im in the trueman show
why dont you let me fix your rotation with the lovely concept of bladestorming before your other major CDs in Single Target*
(i love that movie)
Love you Hrothmar
Why not pop leggo before bladestorm?
Might get another use or two out of it over the course or a dungeon
You can lead with lego, but Lego -> (seconds of bladestorming) causes a lower initial burst than just using it afterwards
The main focus is to use it outside of your CS window since the lego doesn't not benefit from any of your major CDs.
Proc tier before leggo though
what are the best trinkets for m8-m10 levels?
Stat ones, possibly augury
Good morning, Skyhold!
So as my ilevel has gone up, my ilevel parsing has dropped into the black, even though it feels like im doing good DPS (usually top 3)
what's the deal with ilevel parsing? do i really suck that bad compared to others with my ilevel?
that's heroic tindral, btw. lots of moving, seed collecting, etc, so not really possible to stay on the boss 100% of the time
ilvl parsing is misleading
u are at the ilvl of
hof guilds killing bosses in 2 seconds
or in the case of heroic
boost runs where the warrior gets to deal all the damage
(tindral moment)
i just used tindral because it happened to be the log i was looking at
my ilevel parses across all the bosses in amidrassil are similarly in the black
correction, im at 70% for fyrakk
s4 moment
loser
idk i only got trash logs in boosts
i get a rank 7 on volc
no wf
no pi
nothing
annoying ass game
imagine if timmas could get enhas in his weekly runs
WAIT
I HAVE THE DEMON
deadge
@dull siren
sub 1 mil no way
those are some impressive parses man.
or s3
idk man its hc
you play a boost at full gear
and u get 99 guaranteed if hands
or i guess this is pretty close to bis idk
lovely afk totem
pips goated
i quit s4 after 2 weeks
bought pips out of respect
and quit
🫡
some folks already weighed in here, but i'd add that the power gained from gear is not equal. Someone could have the legendary weapon, while someone else doesn't (but has higher ilvl gear elsewhere, on say, Wrists). The dps gain from the weapon vs wrists is astronomically different, but it's still considered "equal" when it comes to ilvl comparison. Look at ilvl parses with an extremely large grain of salt
i flew up

mom i fwew up 
Idk
I play too many arms wars so now my main war is fury
wicked
nothin better than being 100k above the 2nd guy
@latent moss
condemn moment 
frfr
i mean i do find it funny
that i'm doing 40k+ / 100k+
on some bosses
over the public logs
100k above on Primal Council
40k on Experiments
n more
Idk what the fury players r doing
the goat
@latent moss Everyone is unethical
is there anyone playing the game
ethicalgodx
relevant metric
what was it again
i just know i hate council and let myself be benched on it if poss
yappent
council is so silly
not even close lol
Fillium owns so much
you really need good rng
Seething coping Tmy could never
spotted
let me find the log

bro we had council last rota
3 stack for 15 secs
???? idk how
but insane value
ok it was 2
but was about to be 3
@gaunt owl
make the log public so @topaz hazel loses his R1

real
yappnt


Bruh the fury boys down real bad it seems







Huh? Can someone elaborate please about the change?
no change for warriors
dk lost 3 yards rogue gets to keep it for some reason and there is a chance ret is gonna be looked at
read the full article ?
feral lost their range too
its so stupid and inconsistent anyway
lets get parried
they said your positioning is important which means blizz doesnt want us to stand in the soaks infront of bosses

ranged can do whatever the fuck they are doing
still dont know or understand positioning
but the shit boss that randomly turn because why not is gonna parry our CS and Demolish
how many blizzard dev even play mythic anyway ?
and full clear
full BM hunter group
halondrus was my fav fight
p3 ☠️
does signet fall off between tindral platforms?
Poggers
yay funny sark cape soon
just grab haste
multiplicative haste increase for all your bleeds and dots is nice
Vers is better usually
You get free Dr, and because ur vers is usually a lot lower then other stats you get less diminishing returns
Mastery would be nice if it wasn't rating
There isn't really a best %. I think ideal is like
40/40/20/10
But Sims know best for stats
also for last boss in ulda i know u can spell reflect the debuff.. but sometimes it doesnt work and i still get it? when do i spell reflect?
this without buffs? flask etc
or with it
what do you guys think
i wanna replace my box
am thinking call to chaos or dreadplate
what lvl keys u doing?
8-10s boosts no healer
I think ctc is fine if you are doing 8-10s
I like augury as arms as well too but makes sure sim first
why are u simiing 5boss 1min 30 sec?
for aoe ?
dungeon slice is supported for arms now
who is the freshmeat here s?
doesn’t mean it’s good
it is though
is it
is it tho
there are still downsides to it
name 57
yea there’s just like 2 downsides ig
as someone with multi ksm, clearly I would know


High someone knows a WA that tracks my uptime of my tier sets buff?
Finally got to Mythic Tswift for the first time last night… any tips would be appreciated
Kill it <_<
Use travis
so i did the "dungeon slice" https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fdvY7KZHNG9CfmJyqqBpeY
what do you guys think ? i wanna pump boosting 8-12 no healer and i hate using puzzle box
i really wanna try ctc but not sure if its a good call
I would not recommend making a WA for this. Whether the set buff is up or not does not affect your rotation or decision making, so you are cluttering your screen with information you don't need
When you are designing your UI, make sure that everything that you are adding to it is something that you actually need to know or look at during combat. Otherwise, you end up with a setup that is flooded with useless information and it distracts you from the stuff that actually matters
I know the Legendary is best weapon for Arms, but what's second best, cause my luck is shit?
i would say ashkandur
its not the best stats to get on a weapon but the equip effect is decent
its does between 0.8-2% overall in st or aoe
Even with bad stats it's still better than all the others outside of the Leggo?
proc>stats at equal ilvl
Even though it has a low chance, does it proc decent?
Which would give me better dps; Ashkandur or Ominous Chromatic Essence?
I can't sim them as I don't have the paid raidbots.
I don't have them though. I only have 2 Buillion for one
Nevermind, I'm stupid. I see it now
for a short term dmg reduction is it beter to switch to def stance and then back to battle or just spend a gcd on impending victory?
i imagine you lose more dmg with def stance than just using one gcd
They do two different things, Def stance will always be the best option if it's to mitigate a lot of incoming damage, where as IV is just to heal after the damage is happened. It just depends on the context
If all you care about "what will cost me the most damage" then it's def stance
Very helpful ty yellow name Banezi
I shall feed you
yeah makes you sprint if consumed outside of combat
Love my Neltharus Goulash
they both do the same thing- mitigate the effect damage has on your health or more precisely mitigate the mob's ability to bring your health to 0
IV does not mitigate how much damage you take
It simply heals the damage you've already taken
being dead is a dps loss
Until you reach 0 then figure out if you just needed the heal or def stance
Or both for that matter
Hey noobish question, but how many taregts should i be vs to justify using cleave over ms? 3?
3 or above if no SS, 5 or above with SS
MS at all times regardless of target count if high prio mob
cheers
What trinkets should i get with the bullions for m+?
for raid pulls, do you precast puzzle box into the opener?
Yeah I start casting at like 2 seconds.
warrior meta when
Yea… 
anyway Yeap still whole quest chain
I imagine mats can’t be that expensive anymore surely like 2 months till they become obsolete
eta gg
90k for what? 😮
To make the legendary
Ph sheesh that’s cheap
for arms with no tier do we just use the standard pin builds regardless?
high ilvl
Yea
u might not take cleave on aoe tho
regardless just about only change if it even is one
ok sweet
i guess maybe s3 guides or something
also for m+ does execute phase take prio over our aoe rotation in large packs?
What's the optimal rotation during the cs window with TOM? Do I keep overpowering or should I try to spend rage every gcd by pressing more slams or thunder clap? Is it better to get higher stacks of TOM or to maintain the normal rotation
What trinkets should i get with the bullions for m+?
the only thing that really changes with tom, is that you want to try to include 2x storm of swords whirlwinds, the rest is regular ms-> op shit, you can squeeze out some more slams, but with s4 tier and EB it kinda incentivizes just pressing MS as much as possible
oce, augury are p good for m+
at what point do you start to prio thunderclap in large mob count situations over other abilities
yeah I know but at what point do you start to prio applying rend to targets over other things
feel like no matter the target count you never really prio it over op cleave or ww
basically yeah
if it;s gonna fall off or in pandemic press it, otherwise cleave/op/bs
in pandemic?
if a dot is >30%, if you re-apply it before it falls off, the remaining duration gets added to the dot's timer*
I think for rend its 3.5? seconds
it's why on icyveins it says to reapply rend if there is less than 3 seconds remaining on the debuff, forgot to hit enter lmao
need to join DH discord to ask, but how does a DH pull Drakanoid trash onto the Garden trash for first pull in academy? I had it done in my 17 but friend trying to do it as well
rend lasts like 20 seconds so pandemic range i think could b like even around 6 or 7 seconds and its fine
Why isnt Augury a good trinket for arms? Just curious. I use it alot for fury and just swaped to arms and just being curious why it isnt used. Did 6-6.5% of my dmg in a dung.
its not bad its just not as good as other trinkets
Crit and Mastery scale VERY well in AoE so while it is doing a decent amount of your dam, it's not buffing 90% of your kit with the STR or stats from a different trinket.
In single target we are forever plagued by Test of Might which makes it even worse considering you are simply negative 300 or more str during a ToM window
aah okay cheers!
atm for keys i use Augury and Puzzlebox but looking to replace Augury then i guess 🙂 oce would be good?
if no buff? icon?
No buff pip
the curse
of tom
fuk tom
should i treat whirlwind as a rage dump?
You should treat it with respect
u have probably 5 more critical strike hits in 1 sec than with furry compared to arms
simply furry being quick slices and arms being bam bam bam
Icon?
i usually just default oce box in keys
but icon is prolly better with neither fully buffed
Thank you
Can you channel the puzzle box cast while moving?
Ctc isnt bad but i just cant like the fact of extra dmg taken on high keys
5% is a lot
That and sark cloak
No
is going pips + icon that bad? feels like the best chill for alt mid range m+ pugging
completely okay
I've found not using box to be nice. Only because I'm not great at lining up all my cds to make it super valuable and so I end up sitting on it a bit, so I went to 2 passives
Having to stop to channel as a melee sounds annoying
It's not bad but it feels bad just having avatar with box instead of everything
I'm only doing 12s and 13s so midrange stuff but it still feels fine with no box
did they do something to leap?
im pulling shit i dont usually pull
like at the end of ULD
or NELTH
sometimes i leap between packs and it's pulling whereas before it wasn't
Idk but I feel like I'm dying on last boss in halls leaping through the intermission gauntlet when I used to not have issues
Igira absolutely not, her auto attacks cleave its damage to the next closest person, so it'll just one-shot people across your raid
i mean it does the same thing on hc and it solo tankable
i think it has a range for the cleave
cuz if everyone stayed on the back on heroic nobody gets hit
am not sure if its the same thing on mythic
ah, gocha, i dont think i realized it had a range to it
seems like blood dk can solo it, unsure about other tanks
wait why only bdks
Not “only”, I’m just confirming I saw a DK do it after poking around— but didn’t see other ones so they’re unconfirmed
If you don’t get a solid answer here, #protection might have better insights since it’s their role
will ask there, ty
whats the best combo for mythic raid trinkets btw?
Oce with all buffs and signet brand long fights/some onuse or other passive for shorter fights
like ashes/puzzle box/pip/augury
Trampling hoof also ok I think but idk can bullion anything atp
well using now oce / icon for raid and m+
Yea plenty fine enough but prolly something other than icon would be lil better
Box isn’t exactly farmable but I think ashes is still pretty damn good if u use it like a puzzle box, as in still only hit on the 3min cd
hi

Icon if u get all 3
(u will never)
just oce brand and be snoozer
Sounds about right. If you wanna parse you're gonna have to swap in branch as your on use for short fights, but brand is gonna win out on the fights that matter.
i used pips on a 5:50 fight and still won bossdam

idk if sark is insane for brand tbf
For us, it's practically a 5 minute fight with like 30-40 sec downtime?
Something like that
(i dont have brand and dont have 4 key weekly completed yet)
And that was with rat chars
question i just got back why do we run warlords torment in M+ now?
yes
Short answer, it's better
Long answer, it gives you a lot more ST for a not so big AoE loss (and it's easier to play with)
Is arms more dmg or fury
Arms for raid, fury has good enough aoe that it keeps up with arms in m+
@boreal quartz @fresh spire do you think with the current tierset? running unhinged over hurricane? is a good alternative?
I mean u can try to sim each talent
in aoe it’s basically guaranteed to be way worse not sure about what the st benefit would be tho
still either way would be unlikely u don’t want more aoe dmg in cases you’d use bladestorm (m+ or some pad raid fights) vs going unhinged for some minuscule single target gain (if it even is one)
But yea if u just like sim the bs talents in patchwerk singletarget it’d probably be as accurate as anything else to what difference it might make, just consider the above for the reasons why you almost never take it anyway
I think like pvp is the only place that actually sees real use cuz idk 2 more mortal strikes is cool for like instant dmg and healing reduction and whatever else
thinking about trying an arms alt for fun. can they hang in low keys (~8 to 10) without the leggo wep?
Ya why not
Stuff does too fast anyway so maybe helps a little having cds last a bit longer
can we spell reflect first boss in AV ?
ah
first and last are deflects yes
O yea last has one too ig
guys what buff use arms for this trinket?
If you search the thread for simc you should find a post that has this string to add to your simc profile in advance sim to get a definitive answer
copy=Bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=bronze
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/emerald/obsidian/ruby
copy=Emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=emerald
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/obsidian/ruby
copy=Obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=obsidian
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/ruby
copy=Azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=azure
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=bronze/emerald/obsidian/ruby
copy=Ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_dragonflight=ruby
dragonflight.ominous_chromatic_essence_allies=azure/bronze/emerald/obsidian
If you do use advance sim, you just paste in your simc string into there and paste this block of text above at the bottom of it. Otherwise, what I do is I just do a top gear sim with each of the buffs to see difinitively which buff with what gear is the best.
Hey guys. How is arms these days in terms of aoe damage? I got my warrior to 70 and love bladestorm.
incredibly strong this season 👍
and if you love bladestorm, it'll be very present in The War Within in a months with the Slayer hero talent tree
I would add, however, that bladestorm doesn't actually do that much aoe damage right now
Like, it's not weak, but our big aoe cool down is thunderous roar
hurricane (via Bladestorm) do be real powerful though
Oh, for sure. I'm just saying that the actual direct damage it deals is nothing special
Not sure how much that changes with Slayer in the expansion
Can you stack the same embellishment?
Thank you
@halcyon breach rise and shine king
@swift crown gm king
is there anything we can use in prepull countdown besides box?
yes avatar and thunderous roar
nice
me going to Skyhold to spread misinformation
it’s not misinformation
you can use it in prepull
it’s not good but it can be used 🙂
You can do a lot of stuff pre-pull but that doesn't mean there's a reason to, nor share it to someone who might just think using Avatar pre-pull before Box is a smart idea
Rawr x3
he didn’t ask before box, he asked what can be used
And for any normal person with something to stop the breeze from going all the way through, that means actuall usefull advice that won't screw you over. Not "what buttons can i click to waste all my damage" 😂
well i tried it and learned
Good that you learned, already above average smarts for the interwebz 😄
Dont listen to him
Maybe he meant using avatar and roar b4 warbreaker or something
Cuz thats how u should dew it
I don't really DPS, so this is my understanding of arms, hope its not too far off
Next season we play worlds smallest violin
Fury season ?
Prot
prot warrior tier 
What are bis embellishments for raids? blue silken on neck and vers wrists?
That or double BSL
and what is second slot for bsl? also wrists?
Wrist belt boots are general options
do yall charge in or fyralath charge in?
just got the lego last weekend and not sure since regular charge gives resource
You Charge -> MS -> Lego
Using Fyr'alath on pull means you lose out on rage, and the 10% damage bonus from applying the mark
got it! i thought that was the case, but just wanted to double check
ty and GM btw Banezi
gm
hey guys, how's warrior looking for tww?
thinking of swapping from outlaw rogue cause I wanna turn my brain off
very 



