arms

[cerulean grove]

its max

[wicked aurora]

so is mine

it just shouldn't be your 2nd in damage

[cerulean grove]

just ran another key

im fucking up somewhere lol

[wicked aurora]

you're not pressing buttons enough

[mild umbra]

if im using diurna ring i should use an embelishment to proc it or just the helmet is enough?

[hallow turtle]

helm and leggo are enough

[mild umbra]

dont have leggo

[hallow turtle]

If you dont have leggo Idk if its worth using shadowflame or not

That would be a question for one of the bigger warriors here

[inner wasp]

i changed my mind again, im back to playing switch axe

thats an arms warrior weapon surely

[cerulean grove]

is there a talent thats cooldown reduction for bladestorm?

[eternal vortex]

Anger Management

[limpid snow]

could someone post a dps meter for a mythic+. id like to compare averages

[cerulean grove]

What do you guys use for 2nd embellish, mainly doing mythic+

[old urchin]

You mean like overall dam or dam breakdown?

[limpid snow]

overall

[old urchin]

This was a 13 nelth

[limpid snow]

damn, im fucking up then

[old urchin]

I was running blue silken lining and vers bracers. I switched to double BSL this week.

[limpid snow]

it was just a 7 but still seems low

[outer holly]

low for a 7, but also your overall is largely dependent on a decent tank

[limpid snow]

it was my first dps attempt this season. ive been tanking

[outer holly]

Like I can do either 350k or 500 in the same dungeon, same key between 2 diff tanks

[limpid snow]

it feel like every button wants to be pushed at the same time

[earnest imp]

whats the go to keys arms build atm?

[outer holly]

Can't go wrong with single BS

Every button does want to be pressed, that's why we have to map out our aoe/ST openers

[limpid snow]

brain small, sword big

[old urchin]

It do be like that sometimes. Just follow the rotation priority. Do enough keys and you won’t have to think about it as much.

[limpid snow]

if i post breakdown could you gauge where i might be going wrong?

[outer holly]

worth asking at least

[old urchin]

Post it up

[outer holly]

imma go for a smoke first tho

TR seems pretty low

[limpid snow]

i think im not cleaving enough in multi

ive been spamming ms during sweeping strikes

[outer holly]

Cleave in 3 target/4 /w SS when you have 2 stacks of MP

[cerulean grove]

hows your mortal strike so high?

[outer holly]

Prio on MS over cleave in aoe explains that

[old urchin]

Roar should be a lot higher.

[outer holly]

Seems like a case of improper CD usage

[old urchin]

And signet brand isn’t great for dungeons/AoE.

[limpid snow]

im certain youre right

[outer holly]

Yeah id like to see signet uptime, can usually gauge how off the mark someone's DPS is by static shit like trinkets

[limpid snow]

37% uptime

[old urchin]

Make sure you’re cleaving like others have said. You don’t have to wait for 2x overpower buff to press it. You only need to wait for 2 stacks if you’re dumping prio damage into a mob like a caster that needs to die quickly etc.

[outer holly]

I don't know how much you can trust details on that, doesn't brand turn in to a different effect when logged at 15 stacks?

[teal fossil]

i definitely would not trust details

also 37% uptime is pretyt low

even for details

[limpid snow]

i have a self aura tahts higher

[teal fossil]

considering you should have at least 1 stack up mostof the time

[outer holly]

89% rend uptime? I never tracked that before tbh

[limpid snow]

i suppose the 37% might be the damage split component of signet

[teal fossil]

89% seems reasonable

[outer holly]

I'll take your word for it then

[limpid snow]

so as it stands, more cleave and cd usage, different trinket

[outer holly]

Just feel craft here but 93% uptime sounds admirable, depending on where the drops occurred

But yeah while it's still good, especially from whatever breakdown that was, you're better off with another trinket in many other instances. We can't really give you any direct feedback without logs but yeah it's a good start

[limpid snow]

appreciate it. ill look into some changes. im really just looking to get a few more 10s done to get the last of the portals so i can disregard this season

[outer holly]

yeah same, portal farm+raid log was this season's plan

[limpid snow]

i could just go back prot and be solid, but a friend wants to tank and our crew is light on players that are situationally aware

[outer holly]

heard chef

Got one person in my group that didn't realize for 4 dungeons that "Passive" meant his pet was

get this

passive

[old urchin]

Oh no haha

[tame zenith]

mop remix friends - what are you gemming? the guide says to dip into mastery/vers once you hit the crit/haste breakpoints but after a certain point haste/vers must be bis right?

[limpid snow]

one of our healers logged on a dps and did 30k

[outer holly]

your tinker gems are a majority of your damage, I believe they work similarly to trinkets in that they're affected by crit/verse, so once you're sufficiently OP verse is the only way to scale your damage by any noticable margin

[gray steeple]

Speed gems.

[limpid snow]

doesnt speed cap too

[outer holly]

49% 😦

unless they broke that for remix, i never bothered checking

It's funny, I actually have more run speed on retail than I do remix in my speed set

[gray steeple]

It doesn’t for DH. Mastery contributes to run speed. Can hit some crazy numbers.
Assumed it’s the same for all classes.
Anyways, stuff dies so quickly why worry about gemming to get a slight boost at best?

[outer holly]

Nah it's like that on retail, DH mastery is separate from the speed stat scaling/DR

oh but unironically no, speed is the best stat until cap, 9/10 times I'm being carried by some 476 who's 20 rooms ahead of me

[gray steeple]

Also, you could get crazy stats in Torghast. Once, I had like 200% run speed, haste and mastery.

[outer holly]

I was actual shite in Torghast. Was a surv main back then and the final bosses decimated me every time

I was just an LFR hero back then tho

[mild umbra]

crafting a belt rn, im simmin haste/mast way better than crit/haste

thats right?

[gray steeple]

Right now, if that’s what the sims say. But consider what gear you might upgrade and then stats will change. Or recraft the belt later.

[cold vigil]

so MS applies rend to targets below 35% hp, but i noticed it sometimes applies above that threshold too. For example I am doing mog runs in Zandalar raids and dungeons and sometimes even hitting a full health boss will apply rend (without dropping it below 35% hp)

is there anything im missing that also applies rend through MS?

[boreal quartz]

It has 2 options to trigger on stuff above 35

Sweeped off of a thing in execute (intended)

Randomly applying in overworld/legacy conzent (bug)

[cold vigil]

I guess it was a bug

[cold vigil]

Meaning if i sweeping hit an execute target a nearby enemy also gets rend?

[boreal quartz]

yea

i think its not a bug

but you never know

[cold vigil]

Lol

[boreal quartz]

ultra nieche uses tbf

[cold vigil]

I guess the way it counts is- it applies the exact same instance of damage x0,75 and debufs to a nearby target

So ashkandur proc should sweep too right?

[boreal quartz]

nah

thats a weapon thing not an actual spell

[cold vigil]

So it doesn't?

[boreal quartz]

exactly

[sacred zodiac]

isnt it applied on autoattacks anyways

[fossil ridge]

hey fam, is it worth getting back into WoW at this time?

haven't played WoW due to injury, feel like I've missed out. Apparently it seems like this was fury warrior's time in pvp too 😦

[quasi torrent]

procs on any melee attack afaik

[clever crag]

Never too late

But I expect june 21 the pop will go down

[mild umbra]

if im using diurna ring i should use an embelishment to proc it or just the helmet is enough? i dont have the leggo

[nova marsh]

Yeah it's a good time atm

u have a few months before TWW to get leveled and little bit of gear

[frigid lava]

proc with helmet only will be really weak. I think maybe 0.5%?

[fossil thistle]

It’s probably fine because of ICD

[smoky kayak]

play Remix, collect some fun stuff

don't worry about retail unless there's something really specific and time limited you want

[inner wasp]

me who still doesnt have the s4 m+ mount but doesnt wanna pug keys

[slender sonnet]

I got KSH by accident

[regal jolt]

someone know the haste cap ?

[woven wasp]

126%

[inner wasp]

wowhead wants me to install wowhead client

i try to do it

dont work

😔

[lethal stream]

yo guys i have a qustion

[slender sonnet]

the voices want me to go fury

[lethal stream]

at ex phase use 3 ex next mortal or 2 ex 1 op and 1 mortal?

[slender sonnet]

3 ex 1 mortal is better, use OP if u dont have rage

[lethal stream]

night elf or human for race?

[slender sonnet]

human generally sims better but the difference is negligible

[lethal stream]

night elf better?

[slender sonnet]

shadowmeld has its uses

but it just comes down to preference

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/u2UZNumKDFejJZYAR863S8

like it's a negligible difference

[strange perch]

does anyone know anything about IRL knives
i want a benchmade knife

[slender sonnet]

just play whatever you like best ultimately

[lethal stream]

pls check your pv

[sturdy hill]

Troll for the best /sit

[slow saddle]

Play ne

Human dead no diplomacy

[slender sonnet]

void elf cat tabard supremacy

[boreal remnant]

do you only get one use of leggo on gnarlroot mythic?

[slender sonnet]

well

it depends on fight length

[boreal remnant]

was looking at logs earlier today and the r1 guy sent his first roar a whole minute in and leggo 1.5 mins in

feel like that's just...padding

going into mythic there for the first time next week so trying to learn the cd timings

[slender sonnet]

wtf

yeah it looks like he's holding it for an add pack

rather than just sending on pull

so yeah its' just padding

[boreal remnant]

for a whole ass minute

[slender sonnet]

yeah

[boreal remnant]

could've fit a whole extra roar in

people and parses man

[slender sonnet]

maybe not

cause he pops it at 00:51, in top groups like that the adds will be dead normally before it's back

[boreal remnant]

meant an extra roar throughout the fight

not just before adds come

[halcyon breach]

You get 2 uses if you just send Charge -> MS -> Lego

[slender sonnet]

it doesn't look like he casts it a 2nd time

weird

[halcyon breach]

Personally I have not min/max'd potential Gnarlroot parsing, but sending on pull means you'll also have it for damage phase

[slender sonnet]

yeah it looks like he's just cheesing add damage

rank 1 overall, 98 parse for boss damage

[boreal remnant]

not really into that myself but I guess big details bar looks nice

how do you check for boss damage specifically?

[slender sonnet]

if you're using lorrgs it's this noption

[boreal remnant]

can I check that on my own personal logs?

because like on zaqali I only got a 81 but I topped boss damage

[boreal remnant]

dope

I'm still sad about magmorax

my entire opener got fucked because I was assigned first soaks

[slender sonnet]

smile

it happens

[boreal remnant]

yeah

boss dead

don't care

[slender sonnet]

exactly

my parses are depressing too

[boreal remnant]

mine are kinda meme because I got pi

we had one left over and they asked if I wanted it

potentially trialing for a new guild soon so spending time rn just looking through CD timings and where damage intake is highest and stuff

[slender sonnet]

we have 1 priest and I was getting it for a while but then they randomly gave it to the ret

[boreal remnant]

I have no idea how ret performs in raid

I just know arms is one of the better performers

[slender sonnet]

aug buff

rets decent

[boreal remnant]

I don't know if we're getting 2 boullions next week, but if we are I'm buying star and simming like 430k

[slender sonnet]

I think we should

[boreal remnant]

I know it's been speculated

but afaik nothing confirmed

[slender sonnet]

cause last dungeon week we got 2

so

we should

I'm just gonna buy signet brand and sim like 438

and still blue parse

[boreal remnant]

Idk we'll see what options I get from vault

might just be a socket week to socket both my raid rings

[slender sonnet]

[boreal remnant]

I've filled my vault on 5 chars

[slender sonnet]

ew

why

[boreal remnant]

I'm mentally challenged

and I'm on sick leave so

what else to do with my life

[slender sonnet]

ah

[boreal remnant]

I'm getting a 6th with my hunter now

[slender sonnet]

my warrior exists solely for killing fyrakk each week

[boreal remnant]

I'm still pissed it took me 13 kills to get leggo

great system

3.5 months just spent killing that guy

[slender sonnet]

2023 leggo enjoyers

[boreal remnant]

rn I've got warr, mw, bdk, and sp (so ig it was 4 chars)

getting hunter up and running as well but only 507 rn

just started on him this week though

need to get a new pc eventually, this one's getting so old that it can't handle spotify + wow + discord + browser at the same time

[slender sonnet]

I got bored of my alts already

[boreal remnant]

I got my sp to 3.3 then I stopped caring

most boring gameplay in the world

(I say as I spam MS)

[slender sonnet]

might do a key tomorrow

try and practice some prot

[sacred zodiac]

syi hello noober

[slender sonnet]

????

My friend I am bedge

[sacred zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/buttney-hedgehog-sleep-sleepy-tuck-in-gif-15566361920774632734

found a gif of you

[slender sonnet]

So real

I am so cozy like that boi

[ornate heart]

Hey guys 2 questions:

1. can we sweeping strikes execute damage onto a secondary target who is not under 35%

2. what does cleave mean when it says it consumes the overpower effect

[hazy flower]

Yes
Your overpower buffs your next mortal strike or cleave, stacks up to 2

[ornate heart]

Thanks!

[gaunt magnet]

Who is looking the goods so far in the Beta, is it fury or arms right now (I know this will change daily)

[grand idol]

I really like slayer (arms) Spin to win.

[boreal quartz]

Gang Gang

[slender sonnet]

[wild pulsar]

just coming back to season 4, where are yall fitting your flavor pockets if you are using vers wrist? should i recraft my shadowflame cloak from S3 with it?

[rose copper]

hello, i'm new on seaon 4, can someone help me with the cycle ?

[slender sonnet]

I’m not using flavour pocket

[ornate eagle]

Pff that's like 1 whole week after I got mine

Amateur

[slender sonnet]

I am big noober

I am the noober of all time

[halcyon breach]

My paladin got its lego after 2 hc kills and 1 mythic kill

if only I got it that fast in s3

gg

[slender sonnet]

Paladin ew

[eternal vortex]

My pala and warr had exact same kills

[halcyon breach]

Alt gaming just goes kinda hard when gearing is as fast as it is

Also don't have much else to do rn so wcyd

[severe saffron]

can't wait to open 7 vaults

[eternal vortex]

dayum

[severe saffron]

tbf they're not maxed, just a couple of m+ on bunch of alts

still feel gooder

[halcyon breach]

It's usually full on all the chars but been lazy

Full raid and m+ vault on all of them is too much

[eternal vortex]

im too demotivated to play retail

after getting legos

just been doing mythic raid for guild and thats it

[frigid lava]

Not much to do on retail.

people are pretty much farmed out and unless you are pushing for super high score... there just isn't much else.

[eternal vortex]

im also helping a friend who recently joined

but yeah other than that nothing to do

[frigid lava]

I just jump around in valk for minutes before I log off.

[eternal vortex]

also tmog run ig

[frigid lava]

I do all the weekly first day and 8 M+s over 3 days or so... then done for the week

[eternal vortex]

dont wanna do 10s esp when its sanguine

fck that affix

[frigid lava]

sanguine is an easy affix

just step away... no problem

"TYRANNICAL, ENTANGLING, BURSTING" tomorrow

[eternal vortex]

thats not bad

(as im saying this cuz i dont do anything about bursting)

[eternal vortex]

it is easy but annoying i guess

cuz i also play prot

[frigid lava]

u have to be mindful of dpsing when stack gets high.

[eternal vortex]

or just get md

thnx got i have a sp friend

i also do take second wind on bursting affix

[frigid lava]

it gives a reason not to invite a warrior lol

[eternal vortex]

at least no more afflicted and incorp in tww

but affixes still stink in beta

[frigid lava]

new affixes announced already?

https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-dungeon-and-affix-updates-4-new-affixes-reckless-thorned-attuned-342807

[eternal vortex]

Yeah i was referring to that

some of the combinations are nasty

like fort+raging+focused

sure u have soothes but still

[frigid lava]

I don't like these new affixes. Every week there will be certain preferred classes

[teal fossil]

#1230008337517514772

[frigid lava]

ah ic

[teal fossil]

but that is the design yes, every week you prefer a certain set of classes

[old urchin]

At least we have a physical damage/bleed week.

[teal fossil]

ye technically arms has 1 more week than others

[frigid lava]

what's the other week

[teal fossil]

reduced armor week

and bleed week

both good for us

[frigid lava]

Ah yea... at least 2/4

Fury is only 1/4

[eternal vortex]

Meanwhile dh does all types of dmg

Hehe

[teal fossil]

no shot dh isnt getting a AOE nerf due to this

[frigid lava]

dh has bleed damage?

[teal fossil]

chaos damage is every type

[frigid lava]

oh

[teal fossil]

the bleed damage week is also nature

and chaos damage is also nature

so they get 10% damage every week

but something like immolation aura+eye beam is just gonna get nerfed by 10% as a result

[eternal vortex]

My problem with new affixes is that some classes get more benefit than others

[teal fossil]

how so

everything is 10%

30% armor reduction is 9%

but 9 is basically 10

[frigid lava]

Certain claases getting "favored"

depending on affixes.

[teal fossil]

30% bleed is also about 10% damage on warrior

[visual fern]

EBeam is chaos

[teal fossil]

ye

[visual fern]

Oh you're talking armor/bleeds

Didn't scroll up enough

[teal fossil]

i mean like

since dh is getting buffed by an affix every week

they are just gonna get nerfed baseline

[visual fern]

[dull siren]

@visual fern you have to play Fury

[teal fossil]

its not gufyr

[visual fern]

Not playing s4

Letting hand heal

[dull siren]

what the flippers

just use hotkeys

and hold down the keys

[old urchin]

Ferals are going to be monsters bleed week.

[visual fern]

I use g600 and have every extra button bound to something relevant

G600 is the reason my hand got as bad as it did

[cold garnet]

sin rogues eating good on bleed nature week

[teal fossil]

believe it or not that 30% bleed increase is only 10% damage for them

[teal fossil]

its about 12-13% for sin rogues

eat good but nothing special

[visual fern]

Pic is 2 months old

Used to be bigger

[teal fossil]

holy

garms hand pic

mark spoilers

[cold garnet]

either are you

[eternal vortex]

Those hairs

[teal fossil]

no class gets significantly more than 10%

just that some classes can get 2-3% on some other weeks

dh excluded obv

[eternal vortex]

Oh yeah and like i mentioned above

Raging+focused is a week thats gonna be fun

For many ppl

[teal fossil]

for example thane fury can get like 2-3% on the nature week

on top of 10% on armor week

[visual fern]

Happened in feb
Thought it was just a bruise so I kept status quo
Turns out my tendon was boomed and bit of blood pooled around the joint so working busy season + using side buttons mouse exacerbated it so bad I couldn't grab my mouse, much less make a fist by end of busy season

Dr said it's the equivalent of jogging on a sprained ankle for 3 months

All work did was give me a week off and buy me an ergo mouse

[gaunt owl]

Come to Switzerland a real world 1st country

You would get most likely 5 weeks

[visual fern]

Yah because I'd have to wait that long to visit dr

Switzerland has made my short list of places I'd like to move to

[boreal quartz]

Language barrier maybe?

They weird

[visual fern]

Wym

Short list is a good thing generally

[boreal quartz]

It's a factor id consider for the swiss

Speaking french or italian there is a huge plus

Work wise

[visual fern]

It's ok I studied sanskrit

I can figure out the rest

[gaunt owl]

we are the minority

italian speaker is only a really small fraction of the 9m

and depending on the field you work in

English is the only thing you would need

[dire hinge]

Meanwhile here in America my coworker got bit by a rattlesnake yesterday and is in this zoom call while at the hospital on an antivenom regimen

[teal fossil]

fug

you talking about italian

now i want meatballs

[dire hinge]

Embrace the inner Ele Shaman

[frigid lava]

what's cost of living like over there

[gaunt owl]

more than 99% of the world

[eternal vortex]

Im living in korea atm and its great living here

So fast and cheap

[frigid lava]

I'm retired from america and living in korea as well

it's nice but not very foreigner friendly

[eternal vortex]

Tru

Esp if you are not in seoul

[gaunt owl]

if you arent actively working you wont be able to live here

[latent moss]

isnt that normal

[visual fern]

No naturalization process?

[hazy flower]

Wdym

[visual fern]

For 80yr old me

[hazy flower]

Seniors get paid and its enough to live by

In most countries

[teal fossil]

fug

i wish i had a job where i can work from anywhere

[visual fern]

I'm pretty sure the Swiss don't qualify as "most countries"

[latent moss]

pensions?

[visual fern]

[gaunt owl]

if you didnt work in switzerland your retirment plan is not good enough most likely to live here

[hazy flower]

Ya wasnt sure whats the english word for it

[boreal quartz]

If you dont get a swiss level pension itll be sus

[hazy flower]

Whats a swiss level pension

[latent moss]

ye ik people with swiss pensions in serbia

[visual fern]

Oh you mean from a financial pov

[hazy flower]

For avg joe

[visual fern]

Not a legality pov

[boreal quartz]

My grandma doesnt work since like 15 years and is omega chillin there

But she worked for the state

[visual fern]

I thought you meant only work/student visas allowed no immigration

LMAO

[hazy flower]

Is 1k enough to live comfortably

If you old

[eternal vortex]

I didnt know u were living in kr lmao

Thats so interesting

[visual fern]

I was like no way I missed that when doing my homework

[boreal quartz]

The train thing my grandma has costs like 5k a year

[gaunt owl]

yep even our elder ahve trouble because they dont save properly

[hazy flower]

What

Some unlimited train pass?

5k???

[boreal quartz]

5k to be able to take ANY train

[visual fern]

Education issue

[hazy flower]

Its still

Brutally high no?

[boreal quartz]

Yes it's easily worth for how much she uses it

He saves like 6k a year

[frigid lava]

i try to avoid public transportation

[visual fern]

Unreal how so many basic financing/budgeting skills are taught in college but not in high school in US

[gaunt owl]

where they at so i send the IRA on them

[boreal quartz]

Has had it for 20 years now

[gaunt owl]

[hazy flower]

Like im not oriented around whats the usual price

[boreal quartz]

It's a really useful thing

[hazy flower]

But idk

[visual fern]

When an entry level fin/accounting course would help so many people

[hazy flower]

5k is a lot

[frigid lava]

I like driving myself... (MERICA)

[boreal quartz]

Swiss trains are not cheap

[visual fern]

To understand how money works

[hazy flower]

Y I mean

In normal countries

*other

Surely there are equivalents of such things

[gaunt owl]

everything is expensive in switzerland

[boreal quartz]

@hazy flower 4550 here

[visual fern]

Higher COL for higher QOL

Is what it is

[boreal quartz]

For BahnCard 100

[frigid lava]

just like... california

[visual fern]

for higher QOL

[frigid lava]

expensive af and nice if u can afford it

[teal fossil]

[visual fern]

Cali traffic

[hazy flower]

So I glossed over google

[visual fern]

Cali fires......

[hazy flower]

20 euro per week

For such thing in poland

[frigid lava]

don't live in forrest.. u are fine

and avoid traffic hour

[hazy flower]

Which is like 1.2k a year

[teal fossil]

dude have you been to LA

[gaunt owl]

problem is google is gonna take some stupid average from our big city like Geneva Zurich or Basel

[teal fossil]

its jammed up for 18/24 hours

[gaunt owl]

they earn more but pay more

[visual fern]

Yah, I wouldn't move to LA

[teal fossil]

i just went to LA 2 weeks ago

[frigid lava]

I lived in the busiest area of LA... so I scheduled my life away from traffic hours.

[visual fern]

If I went cali

[teal fossil]

there were no off peak hours

[boreal quartz]

Pass includes high speed trains ships n shit

[frigid lava]

Yea... I don't recommend living in the city of LA but suburb is very nice

[eternal vortex]

LA is pure craziness

[boreal quartz]

Like the TGV etc

[hazy flower]

Says every train

[frigid lava]

but nice suburbs are expensive

[hazy flower]

Of multiple companies

[frigid lava]

my 1b1b costed me $3k a month

[hazy flower]

Tho im just going from 1 website

[teal fossil]

3k is insane

[hazy flower]

Im not really knowledgeable in that matter

[gaunt owl]

you only need SBB website

[frigid lava]

I got tired of it and moved to korea lol

[gaunt owl]

everything is connected in Switzerland

[hazy flower]

Im checking for poland atm

To kind of compare

[gaunt owl]

just some canton have their own company

and not the federal one

[eternal vortex]

What is 1b1b

[frigid lava]

1 bed 1 bath

[eternal vortex]

Ah

[frigid lava]

typical single person living

[eternal vortex]

But its kinda odd to see someone moving to korea tho

[teal fossil]

what do you do for a living while in korea

[eternal vortex]

Of all places

[frigid lava]

I'm retired military.

[eternal vortex]

Figured

[teal fossil]

so you are chilling

[frigid lava]

yea but trying to get a job soon

having to be productive is healthy physically mentally

[eternal vortex]

Im actually going thru military training since im in a reserved force now

[frigid lava]

Korean?

[eternal vortex]

Ye

[frigid lava]

u young?

[eternal vortex]

26

[frigid lava]

icic

[eternal vortex]

I guess i am young

Even my name says it

[frigid lava]

it is relative ... ic

[latent moss]

👴

[teal fossil]

wheres the goat cowfarmer

[latent moss]

🧑‍🌾

[teal fossil]

the ultimate korean

🧎‍♂️

[latent moss]

with his sim cooks

[eternal vortex]

There it is

[frigid lava]

are you reserve training right now?

in*

[eternal vortex]

Yeah

Finished day 1

[frigid lava]

and you are on discord

[eternal vortex]

I mean

Im not staying at the base

You get off at 4:30pm

Everyone goes home

And comes back by next morning

And do this for four days

[frigid lava]

Icic

[wicked aurora]

My boss always asks me if I’d consider coming back to CA the answer is always no

Don’t get me wrong, there some legitimate upsides but the downsides of living there are too much imo

[strange perch]

@fresh spire @boreal quartz tell me one thing

hinge over nado yes or no

could be coo with tierset no?

[boreal quartz]

Cuh

[strange perch]

Pluh

[copper summit]

question the 15sec and 50 sec cd should i wait for certain CD to be combined?

i feel thats where im messing up a lot i dont know if i should wait or just throw cd's off cd

[dire hinge]

usually you dont hold cds, which spells specifically are you asking about regarding the 15/50sec ones? Arms primarily operates off of 45sec/1min/1.5min

[copper summit]

in M+ sometimes some cds are close to be up all together but 1 thats like 15seconds

and i was looking at warcraft logs i see some ppl do roar then warbreaker every time

[dire hinge]

yeah, roaring before/after is a bit of a wash it doesn't really matter

most of roar's damage is from the DoT ticks, not the cast itself

[copper summit]

is there one i really need to make sure i do befor the other? if they both are up?

[strange perch]

Roar -> Avatar+WB if I’m remembering right

[dire hinge]

Generally you follow the priority list on WoWHead and guage whether or not you want to use cooldowns based on the current state of your combat. Meaning like, if spells are coming up, but your'e mid-combat and they'll die soon-- probably hold them for the next pack

[copper summit]

mmm ok yea i just wanna make sure becasue i did a 13 BH and i did 444k and another arms warrrior did 560

[dire hinge]

I'd look at the comparison in details between where the damage happened (spell breakdowns) and on which packs.

Avatar before Warbreaker is always a good one, but yeah you can Roar before or after Avatar/WB and it doesn't really matter.

• Avatar lasts 20.
• Roar lasts 16 seconds.
• Warbreaker lasts 10.
  These don't perfectly align, but as long as Roar is ticking while Avatar/WB are applied then your'e good to go

[copper summit]

i think i found out what ive been doing wrong ive came from fury and their ww makes it so ur auto attacks others... so i thought arms did the same

[dire hinge]

ah! That's understandable, but yes, we rely on Sweeping Strikes to do that

[copper summit]

ive been pressing sweeping but i just thought it does more aoe lol

like spreads to more

[dire hinge]

Totally, yeah Arms is a priority damage spec, with Sweeping hitting a second target. The neat thing being that "Dreadnaught" will spawn 2 lines with sweeping active (and they both hit targets independently)

so you can hit the same target with 2 lines with a single button press, as long as there's a 2nd target nearby

[copper summit]

ah ok thank you this helps a lot

[dire hinge]

of course! I love helping with these little lightbulb moments, it's a bunch of weird-shaped puzzle pieces that need to fit together at times

[inner wasp]

maybe its just me, but i found more success by not following the prio list

prio list gives me an aneurism when i looked at it while trying to learn arms lol

[dire hinge]

haha yeah the big list of conditionals can be a big cognitive load, moreso talking about "if you have a question about what button to pressin [X] situation, the priority list will likely answer it"

[inner wasp]

my problem with the prio lists is when weird conditionals and cooldowns get put at the top of it

cuz like yes. obviously ur cooldowns get prioritized over the regular rotation, if applicable

but trying to learn ur regular rotation and having to look halfway down the list to even see it is weird

if it were up to me, and im sure theres a good reason this isnt done cuz im not the guide writers

id have a "rotation/priority (no cooldowns)" list and then a "how to use cooldowns" section

[dire hinge]

For sure, everyone learns thing differently, there's not really a wrong answer

Great feedback though, it's always appreciated

[halcyon breach]

You can follow the conditionals if you want to be optimal, but if it's too much, simply doing
Cleave at 5+ targets
MS with sweeping on 4 targets and if prio
Overpower
Should get you far honestly

As your main globals spent

[inner wasp]

yea, i think that could be better conveyed in some ways

[halcyon breach]

I don't write guides, but it's sorta hard to make a one fits all, when there are technical improvements you can make in your play depending on what you have

[inner wasp]

especially because arms rotation changes depending on sweeping strikes and target count, trying to condense it all into one prio list kinda breaks the brain to look at

[halcyon breach]

You can make a simple overview, which would get you, hypothetically, 95% of the way

But not cover the last 5%

Or make one that covers 100%, but make it harder to read for some and follow

[inner wasp]

like say u know nothing about arms. literally nothing
ur at ur 5 target cleave training dummy and ur staring at this

its kinda hard to parse this immediately

[halcyon breach]

Personally I prefer the 100%, but I can definitely see people wanting the 95% iteration

[halcyon breach]

Yeah Arms in particular this season is also just very bloated in AoE if you want to paly as optimal as possible

[dire hinge]

save us TWW

[halcyon breach]

It's a very known issue, which is why I typically recommend just following a more simplified rotation if it makes it easier to follow, since honestly unless you're doing push keys, it wont matter and you'll still do very near peak potential damage by doing so

I personally just kinda press buttons by feel whenever I do M+, although I've not really done higher than 14s this season because I just don't care enough to

But my damage does not really suffer from it

[copper summit]

i would love for the meta to go away already.. its hard getting in keys with incorp and aflicted

[dire hinge]

im ready for incorp/afflicted to go away too

[wooden tide]

just cleave>Op>cleave>op and ww on cd in aoe

[inner wasp]

i couldnt care less about incorp/afflicted tbh

[dire hinge]

you wanna hold Cleave until you fit a second OP on there 👌

[inner wasp]

i cant do them so its not my problem

😌

[copper summit]

thats the thing becasue u cant do them ppl in 14+ keys wont inv u lol

its just hard on my end

[inner wasp]

i will NEVER pug a key

im in a guild for a reason

id rather swallow razor blades than pug keys

would be less painful

[copper summit]

i feel like i do way better in pugs than with guild sometimes

[inner wasp]

yea until u dont get invited cuz warrior no utility lol

[dire hinge]

i find my pug skew happens only when the other folks in the key are vastly underperfoming and letting me pick up that slack

[copper summit]

in around 13+ keys its easier to do than a 8 key

[halcyon breach]

Can definitely say I've enjoyed M+ more on my alts, simply because I can take care of affixes that I can't on my warrior

As for the damage, I prefer people actually pressing their buttons, but I can typically take care of the damage needs on my own

[copper summit]

i did a +4 on my alt shammy and wiped on first NOK boss lol

[sudden crest]

wait till tww when there will be weekly gatekeeping

[copper summit]

yea i was thikning going survival hunter becasue of this lol

[sudden crest]

just go dh

[copper summit]

also fun class

[sudden crest]

fire,chaos,phys

[copper summit]

naahh DH i hate jumping around dashing... confusing where i am lol

[dire hinge]

bring back explosive

give me something to overpower again

[grand idol]

breaking in an hour later... but if you think that's hard to parse take a look at the havoc DH prio guide. it has you using things that require meta before abilities that give meta.

[inner wasp]

normalize having more than one prio list for multiple situations

[grand idol]

idk, its easy to say that I might like more options but I don't put in any of the work and I access what's available for free. So shrug, don't look a gift horse in the mouth I guess haha.

[south minnow]

Why is our BIS a crafted neck instead of boots? Other classes don't do that

[dire hinge]

the necklace has decent secondary stats that are customizable to our liking, and you can apply the Blue Silken Lining to it.

You can also craft boots if you want to, but since crafted pieces have lower ilvl caps than non-crafted pieces, it's technically stronger to just get a good pair of boots that are a few ilvls higher

i can't speak to why it differs from other specs, i only play arms tbh

[old urchin]

I have three crafted pieces but that’s because I can’t go back to not having a flavor pocket. Plus being able to recraft for stat weights is nice too.

[dire hinge]

i briefly had my flavor pocket back but then i got a good drop in my belt slot

[quasi torrent]

u dont like being a passenger?

consider playing hpriest

actively a passenger

[halcyon breach]

I've already played plenty of hpriest keys

[quasi torrent]

im sorry

[slender sonnet]

Should I gear my legal paladin (holy)

[eternal vortex]

whats illegal then

[slender sonnet]

Ret

[eternal vortex]

shit

ive been doing some illegal stuff then

mb

[slender sonnet]

✅ Legal: Holy, Prot
❌ Illegal: R*t

[eternal vortex]

i mean as long as i dont get caught

its not illegal right?

[slender sonnet]

If a tree falls in the forest but no one hears it does it make a sound?

[eternal vortex]

nope

i dont recall a sound

[slender sonnet]

It’s not whether you recall it

It’s whether the sound exists

[eternal vortex]

prob yeah

[slender sonnet]

There you go then

Whether observed or not, r*t is illegal

[eternal vortex]

but i cant stop it man

too addictive

[slender sonnet]

It’s very easy to stop

[eternal vortex]

just dont play ig

[slender sonnet]

Delete char and play a proper class

[eternal vortex]

what are some examples of proper classes

hunter mage?

[slender sonnet]

arms warrior
Survival hunter
Feral Druid
Elemental shaman

Are all acceptable alternatives

But tbf there’s only one reason to play feral and I doubt you have it

[eternal vortex]

What is that

[slender sonnet]

The cat

[eternal vortex]

....

I like how you have your screenshot ready

Committment

[slender sonnet]

Always

[latent moss]

4 horsemen of dogshit design

[slender sonnet]

Incorrect

The 4 pillars of me enjoying this game

[latent moss]

[dire hinge]

As someone who will specifically pick the lowest dps on the charts and then learn that spec and try to outperform guildies with them, I see you and I respect it

[slender sonnet]

They’re just fun

[dire hinge]

It’s true, that’s my exact alt list atm, with the caveat of recently trying boomie since we had one extremely under performing one in guild (I was learning it to try and help them identify what was going wrong)

[astral yarrow]

[thick kelp]

Hrothmar immigrating to dreamgrove soon

[dire hinge]

No way 😂 stance dancing to cast Frenzied Regen alone made me want to delete my Druid

Bear was a very, very easy tank though, goodness gracious. Can literally just macro iron fur into every single one of your generators then go push down mid and still be alive

[left wagon]

I haven't used stat weight sim/Pawn before. I'm assuming if I'm reading this right, STR > Vers > Mastery > Crit > Haste in that order?

[minor gust]

Delete pawn

[left wagon]

EZ

[minor gust]

no seriously no one uses pawn stat weights are a thing of the past in wow just top gear sim

[left wagon]

gotcha, I was just trying to figure out what Gems to put in my rings cause, 4 Myth gear vault, and I get 3 fucking gloves and a ring. So I took the sockets lol

[minor gust]

yeah just use top gear sims to figure out gems

[left wagon]

sweet

thx

[frigid lava]

Hmmm

[gray steeple]

Helm if it'll be your highest piece. Or fragment for M+ imo

[frigid lava]

Funny the sandglass (8/8 champ) sims super high.

[formal verge]

When yall sim for M+ do yall use ST M+ build? Trying to decide which trinket to use, currently says augury over myth pbox but i think its due to not taking any of the crit stats from the talent tree

[gray steeple]

What's your other trinket. For M+, you can use your St top gear and swap trinkets (easiest). Dungeon slice works but is ST-centric. Or could so 5t no buffs other than shout for varying lengths. 60/90 seconds the most common.
Or see what others run for a dungeon in your key range and follow that lead.

[formal verge]

@gray steeple Im rocking Mbox+OCE Atm. I just wonder if the reason Augury is pulling ahead is because of the crit boost it gives considering the lack of 4% crit from cruel strikes/critical thinking. Would it be actually worth it via the sim or is it bait and stick with puzzle/oce

[gray steeple]

Augury is solid and it could the crit. I'd try both combos and see what works best tbh.

[odd mist]

Augury has better priority damage and pbox has more padding. If your group is organized and you don’t need more priority damage I think pbox is better for overall. If you play mostly pugs where everyone is padding like crazy I would go with augury for priority damage and get higher chance of timming keys.

[cinder ocean]

I thought augury is split damage? How does it provide prio dmg?

[formal verge]

Yeah from what I see now with simming 1T vs 5T. Aug is like 4k ahead in single but 24kbehind in 5T. I imagine this is bigger with more adds

[odd mist]

Maybe I got baited by the single target sims and I am wrong. In this case I think pbox is better.

But for unorganized pugs priority damage is king, so other trinkets can be better than pbox in this case.

[teal fossil]

St trinket doesn’t mean it does prio damage

[olive nest]

I’d run Pbox and a stat stick

[olive nest]

If you have a poor amount of Crit it’s very possible the sim is weighing the Augury higher because of that yes

[teal fossil]

then again you need more crit to make augury work better

so its really a give and take

the crit on the trinket is inconsequential

[odd mist]

Is there a way to sim priority damage?

[gaunt owl]

single target with your aoe build

if you really need prio dmg you gonna favor ST anyway and let the bleeds take over the AOE

[sage badge]

Got mythic pbox from vault. I finished the season.

[frigid lava]

i picked up fragment to boost my ilvl

[sage badge]

Oh, I still need to pick up gholak for prot. Then I finished.

[frigid lava]

I bought one with bullions lol

got bored out of playing arms all the time... so i started tanking low M+ for fun

[forest arch]

Anyone running a good Remix tinker build thats different from whats on WH/IV ? Can't find a good resource for an updated build

[cinder ocean]

priority_rotation=1 in the custom apl section of raidbots

Then check the html report

Only works for specs that support it though

[rain obsidian]

Hey just trying out arms for the first time. Little confused on whether to be prioritizing cleave or ms on different target counts with and without sweeping strikes. Is there a definitive number of mobs when I should be cleaving instead?

[outer holly]

yep

More than 2 targets cleave

More than 3 when SS is up

Or cleave at 3 targets, 4 targets /w SS

[outer holly]

Some people get confused by the wording

[gaunt owl]

cant you guys just save my screenshot

i got the math done

long time aggo

it was so long ago i'm dying of old age

[thick kelp]

You are gonna die of old age before arms rework

I feel sorry for u ppaww

[outer holly]

Isnt the math kinda close at 4 targets /w SS?

I'm not sure how wrong my advice is

[gaunt owl]

yeah kinda

everything is shit and blurry anyway

SS is the best ability in the game

but blizzard are too stupid to make it good

[outer holly]

SS being on GCD

[dire hinge]

SS being a spell

[rain obsidian]

Okay that was way simpler than I was thinking. Thanks, also trying to pick a no brain power trinket with bullion this week. Would you recommend nelths or augury. Only raid heroic and do keys upto 10

[gaunt owl]

OCE

[agile frost]

What are we looking at for best trinket combos for ST/MT?

[dire hinge]

You can find bullion suggestions here: #updates-midnight message

But yes Ominous Chromatic Essence is probably the easiest one

[rain obsidian]

Okay, I also play prot so thought one of those other 2 would have worked better for both specs.

[agile frost]

I am finding fewer people to sync up Chrome Essence with, and I already have Brand for ST and Puzzlebox for MT

[sudden crest]

The fact there are still people who mount on their dr mount prior to Fyrakk opening the tear and fall to their deaths LOL

[lunar lotus]

best oathstone buff for trinket?

[clear oasis]

Sooo this 515 vessel of acceleration I got from cata TW is simming marginally higher than the 528 puzzle box I have in my vault on dungeon slice. Does this make sense?

[agile frost]

Usually Crit or Haste, but if you can hit 40/40/20/20 with Black, I wouldn't shrug it off
Also, if you run content with 4+ other people who use the other colors, sometimes being the 5th Power Ranger is Best

[lunar lotus]

im at 36 crit 40 haste 20 mstery 18 verse so crit or all is my dillema

[agile frost]

What do you get with All/Obsidian?

[lunar lotus]

let me see

37 crit 40 haste20 mast 18 verse

with black

crit oathstone gives me 39 crit 39 haste 19 mast 17 verse

[sudden crest]

Close enough

[lunar lotus]

i guess i go black?

[frigid lava]

and never go back

[sacred zodiac]

wtf is this garbage advice

[sacred zodiac]

sim it or just fill out buffs your raid needs it doesnt overly matter

[gaunt owl]

as Arms you most likely will go for haste or crit depending on your current gear

but yeah follow Spongiuus advice

[olive nest]

Mine literally suggests onyx

[gaunt owl]

wtf shit gear you has !

[olive nest]

Works out though because raid needed it

[sacred zodiac]

have you tried upgrading the bis gear

[olive nest]

I’m full myth slotted so only upgrades come from vault and reclear

So far bunch of L weeks

No hope from catalyst

Think I’m like 42/42/43/19(ish)in raid

Wait to much vers I think idr

First 3 are correct vers is a number

[gaunt owl]

pretty much everybody that did enough mythic raiding should be full gear now

i just bought my mythic OCE this week

show us what you got

[dire hinge]

thinking about buying signet bc im out of things to buy, even though we dont do the 4min+ content in my group

[gaunt owl]

buy tmog

[olive nest]

Let me check if I logged out in raid spec

[dire hinge]

valid honestly

[olive nest]

I’m mobile right now

[sacred zodiac]

purchase the cat immediately

[dire hinge]

i already have cat

i earned it during SL

[olive nest]

Hmmm gotta do some digging I thought I was closer to 428k

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j43m2jMsctckF4m7be9woS

Oh right with signet and anvil I’m higher

I can’t swap them in on mobile to see

[true latch]

how many heroic fyrakk kills do people have under their belt with no legendary drop? I'm currently at 17, which is more than the wowhead article says is guaranteed for the drop, and im wondering how high others have gone before seeing it

[olive nest]

Have all 17 been in the same patch?

[true latch]

no some were from last season

but that sshouldnt matter, right? its based on the number of greater embers and difficulty

[olive nest]

I don’t have data to support this but i have a hunch that you need 14 kills in the same patch for it to be 100% drop chance. Because I’ve read here multiple times now people having well over 14 and not having it

Some guy in here last week had 21 kills

[true latch]

oh good :'')

[daring flicker]

[halcyon breach]

[quasi torrent]

[swift crown]

[sacred zodiac]

[olive nest]

You got it! Keep grinding

Should happen on the 14th kill of this patch

Or before if lucky

[true latch]

oh i will be, just hoping that I'm able to get it with enough time left in the season to actually use it with my team

tempted to try and buy a mythic kill just for the extra chance this week

[olive nest]

Don’t sweat it to hard

At this point you just want the cosmetic more than anything

[gaunt owl]

you broke the streak wtf

[olive nest]

L moment

[west wasp]

would you say the anvil is better than the puzzle box for mythic raids?

[outer holly]

also I'm putting 5 bucks on that person simming oce for mastery

(Not actually gamba pls no ban )

[gray steeple]

No.

[outer holly]

Though there is a sweet spot on kill times where the gnarlroot trinket surpasses pbox

[gray steeple]

Signet + Augury for 5+ minute fights. Augury--Pips--Puzzlebox in some combo for shorter fights works well.

[west wasp]

i will do that friend thank you ❤️

[halcyon breach]

You are completely omitting the fact that Icon and OCE exists, which are both better options than Augury, for any fight

In a raid setting at this point of the season, you are very likely to find at least a few buffs of OCE in a raid, Icon not as likely

If you want a general setup for raid, Puzzle + Passive stat stick for short fights (depending on group setup)
Signet + Passive stat stick for 5+ minute fights

[quasi torrent]

consider this: highroll augury procs = win

[halcyon breach]

consider this:

[quasi torrent]

vs

HIM

[dire hinge]

[quasi torrent]

her*

[dire hinge]

phone wigged out lmao

[dire hinge]

ponder this

[halcyon breach]

OCE moment

I have yet to unequip it since I got it weeks ago (regardless of group setup)

[dire hinge]

whom up pondering their OCE

[halcyon breach]

And sims it hasn't been beaten by anything, even Anvil

[dire hinge]

i know icon is more robust for smaller groups but yeah idk... didn't get one natty, haven't bought one yet, just rocking orb and smoothing out my brain

trying to make it look like OCE

[quasi torrent]

I got icon week 2 from vaultus

not getting oce

(haste oce with all buffs +800 ohno!!!)

[dire hinge]

hell yeah

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-fox-spin-speen-fox-gif-25621834

[outer holly]

what the dog doin?

[frigid lava]

Hmmm... what to buy what to buy

[dire hinge]

Missing pieces, mog, offspec items

[gray steeple]

mount

[frigid lava]

yea, getting the mount

still rocking a 515 trink and not full mythic... but seems like expected dps increase is miniscule.

[sullen plover]

Dumb question but are awakened raids unlocked or is it still one weekly rotated?

Awakened amirdrassil I assume?

[gray steeple]

just the one, was announced weeks ago

[sullen plover]

Oh ok thanks

[indigo bobcat]

hey guys returning warrior. having trouble figuring out when to use bs on aoe pulls

using the general m+ build. the guide states to use bs on lower prio below the general cds

do we use it after warbreaker, and not during ss?

[frigid lava]

it lines up with troar

[indigo bobcat]

how? roar is a 1 min cd using the hybrid build

[frigid lava]

anger management

[indigo bobcat]

because of the am?

ahh kk

[frigid lava]

yea somehow they line up almost perferctly

[indigo bobcat]

so i should be using roar + bs together, is it better to use that after the warbreaker + ava combo then?

[frigid lava]

u want the troar dots boosted... so warbreaker + ava + tier bonus(crit from ms or cleave or execute) + bs stack

bs itself doesn't do much dmg.. but it gives 30% boost

[indigo bobcat]

ooh okay i was misreading the guide prio list then

and id pop roar right before using all cds or just after to get the full bs dmg boost?

[frigid lava]

i use bs after troar

dots last 16 sec.

[indigo bobcat]

ok makes sense

ava is 20s, use wb + ava, roar, then bs

then when thats done, ss and continue the regular prio

or... whirlwind, ss, then prio? bruh this list is confusing hahaha

[astral yarrow]

yeah you want to send your full set of CDs, WW then SS to sweep OP and MS

arms aoe is a mess of priority and has been the entire xpac

[indigo bobcat]

yeah no kidding

and in ss, im using ms on 4 or less enemies when i hit 2 stacks of MP

but at 4 targets exactly, you can cleave or ms?

[astral yarrow]

if your only priority is aoe, yeah, you ignore MS mostly and spend globals on OP and cleave

[indigo bobcat]

sweet thanks

that clears it up a lot. ran a dungeon for the first time in forever and wasnt using cds properly. makes sense now

[astral yarrow]

when playing a class that has cooldown reduction, its almost always better to send your cds regardless of the situation (ofc not if shit is dying in 5 sec). Any time you are spending rage with CDs ready you are losing a lot of casts

[copper summit]

i got boon just to mess around with.. i did 100k less dps than M track puzzle box

cant tell if it was becasue AV or just me but yeaaa died twice becasue of it

[boreal remnant]

p sure I just buy silent star cloak at this point

don't really have anything else to buy

my trinks in raid are puzzle box and oce anyways

[frigid lava]

I bought the mount :0

[boreal remnant]

it's nice

[olive nest]

Arms Owns

[proper moth]

until TWW

[steel furnace]

Chat this is insane

[olive nest]

Nah

Critcakes way better

im just a average arms enjoyer

[steel furnace]

Critcake? never heard of him

[tribal vessel]

cousin to hastemuffins

[steel furnace]

ahh hastemuffins i know that guy

[copper summit]

question can u heroic leap the fire line in ULD emberon (the golem boss) ?

[outer holly]

I think you have to jump first, and the apex of your leap needs to be where the fire is.

Can't say for sure, I always wind up dying when I try it

[latent moss]

yes

u have to time it though

u have to distance yourself from it properly

otherwise u will get clipped by it

[simple wren]

are we taking voice of the silent start for bullions? seems pretty good since i dont do high keys 🙂

[dire hinge]

Sure can!

[halcyon breach]

I picked it for sim dps because it's all that matters

The overlaps though leave a lot to be desired

[simple wren]

what do we get if we catalyst it?

[astral yarrow]

A cloak

But can’t do that anymore

[quasi torrent]

i checked yday or the day before and i could cata my DROPPED cloak again

[astral yarrow]

Could you actually press it or did button just light up

[quasi torrent]

After the hotfix for it i couldnt even put it in

but no i did not actually press the button

if i can be fucked doing 4 dungs for a bulli ill toss my old cape in and see yep

[quasi torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/nIOTpM8.png

@halcyon breach help

[halcyon breach]

Ruby poopie

pick speed

🏃‍♂️

I picked a leech OCE

[quasi torrent]

🦵

wtf cheater

[halcyon breach]

I need the extra 3% healing

[quasi torrent]

big BSL uppie

[halcyon breach]

true now I'll go from average 14.3% uptime to like 14.8%

real numbers

[quasi torrent]

me when we 2 heal every fight

[halcyon breach]

I will however have 100% uptime this reclear (we wont reclear)

[quasi torrent]

gg

[obtuse copper]

Ya benzai

[swift crown]

GG

I might get ride bench for a full raid!

[cunning heart]

What's the deal with all the manic grieftorches on top logs on hc? Are these from boost runs where clients are expected to die or is grieftorch actually that good for short fights? Certainly doesn't Sim high ..for me at least

[quasi torrent]

Powerful

[quasi torrent]

Yes

grieftorch if u keep resetting it (esp on short fights) is the best trinket

[cunning heart]

Any way to Sim it or calculate the value u get if u get resets?

[quasi torrent]

I believe there was a setting, but i do not recall it from the top of my head

id have to check the simc documentation

(you can do this too)

[cunning heart]

Will do

Thx

[quasi torrent]

should be somewhere within expansion features (or smth that sounds like that)

[cunning heart]

Hm couldn't find anything in the simc doc file

[dusty venture]

anyone else

[quasi torrent]

my mastery of basic life tasks:

[dire hinge]

Negative mastery: you begin healing the target over time

[mortal crag]

copycat

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[quasi torrent]

wha

[mortal crag]

nah anda i fw u heavy

last week i posted a similar screenie with text over each vault item

[copper summit]

can anyone log-in to the raider.io site? and app?

[quasi torrent]

i do that

always

[normal marsh]

guys on opener i see many top parses just open with charges into MS, ignoring the advice of using major class CDs after charge - what's the consensus on this? I thought it would be mostly charge>fyralath>TR>Avatar>CS>MS etc

[teal fossil]

operner doesnt really matter that much

its such a small % of your damage

rather put up my 2 dots before using leggo

but its all whatever

[olive nest]

You see that because people are fishing for a tierset proc before casting Lego

[teal fossil]

oh yeah tier set works with lego

i forogt

[sharp wyvern]

i think im done for the season

[olive nest]

[normal marsh]

aaah okay good to know thank ye

[teal fossil]

also getting dots up before

[olive nest]

It’s honestly minor

[normal marsh]

so could do a charge>ms>rend>fyralath>normal rotation if being super stringent?

[teal fossil]

yeah

again they are all very minor differences

i wouldnt sweat too much

[normal marsh]

yeah just the discrepencies in the logs vs the guides got me confused

[olive nest]

This is from tmys discord