arms

[west wasp]

what gems should i use aside from primary stat

[thick kelp]

sim it

but i thikn ur sim is gonna want

haste crit

or haste mastery

also u only have 1x embellishment

[untold trench]

Walhe failing his arms knowledge, tsk tsk, tsk

[west wasp]

i do have the wrists

[untold trench]

[thick kelp]

@untold trench what talent is sword and board

[west wasp]

i just need to recraft it 🙂

[thick kelp]

I have the mythic fyrakk axe

[untold trench]

If you were a real warrior, you would know

[thick kelp]

im

cata enjoyer

I dont have time for retail bed

[untold trench]

Cant say I blame ya, I raidlog and do my weekly m+

[thick kelp]

I dont even play weekly key

[untold trench]

I would stop, if vault actually dropped stuff so I could feel that I am done

gems and crafted gear for days

[outer holly]

I have enough ilvl to roflstomp pugs, that's good enough for me

[torpid sentinel]

am i just too used to remix rn or did they soft nerf arms because it feels slower

[latent moss]

do i need a sub to get invited

[reef glade]

slower than what, remix?

where you have like 200% haste???

[outer holly]

40% haste, 200% haste, not a big jump really

it's more likely there were undocumented patch notes that reduced our haste coefficient

[steep osprey]

[lusty bobcat]

I am a returning player. Have not raided Amirdrassil in season 3. got a 425 gs on my warrior. I saw that arms basically needs Fyralath to be competitive. Can I still obtain it in s4? I mean is it advisable given that it will take 14 weeks with the pity timer? Or should I perhaps bench my warrior till war within and play idk mage? Opinions and thoughts are welcome

[astral yarrow]

I'd honestly play something that doesnt "require" the legendary. It just feels bad being behind when you start a key or a boss pull 🤷‍♀️

[lusty bobcat]

Yeah that was my thinking as well

[astral yarrow]

If you're a FOTM man, Spriest is VERY good in higher keys

[lusty bobcat]

Thought about giving my mage a shot again

I‘ve never played spriest

[modest moss]

FOTM priests are all absolute dogwater

[astral yarrow]

ymmv

[outer holly]

It takes a special kind of person to be bad at SP

[burnt quiver]

currently have vers wrist embellishment is it worth swapping to double BSL?

[ember glen]

Anybody getting details on beta

[quartz cedar]

Season 4 is not meant for longevity. The way they're handing out all the top tier raid gear with bullion, people are going to stop raiding altogether soon, so unless you get lucky with Fyralath dropping before your 15th attempt, your chances of being able to have that many chances before its guaranteed is slim. I honestly would not even bother. Use this time to try out what classes feel good to you to play in The War Within.

[slow saddle]

well sims say yes,

[somber lance]

and there are so many of them it's insane

every key it seems there's one

the variance for performance is high

is the spec hard to play?

[quasi torrent]

no

its not full faceroll klonk klonk, but also not hard

[arctic iris]

The biggest concern for it is that if you miss with shadow crash, then the pull is scuffed

So if you have a tank that does weird movement, especially in a pug, it can be a pain in the ass

[outer holly]

yeah the like 1-2 second delay before it lands is kind of bonkers, imagine if rain of fire had a 20 second cd

[west wasp]

Would signet brand be bad for short fights on normal?

and if so could i replace it with grief torch

[hallow turtle]

I replace signet with puzzle box for fights under 4 mins

[west wasp]

🙂

[left wagon]

I actually went Allied Wrist + Shadowflame Patch cause I PUG, and this late season random ass M+ shit is weird

[jolly dove]

I wanna play arms but I feel like I just do less dps 😕

[olive nest]

practice

[jolly dove]

I have been

My aoe is way lower and my st is comparable but still lower

[left wagon]

Overpower Positioning makes all the difference that and iLvl + Weapon

@wind flicker has guides on YouTube that slap too

[alpine jasper]

bladestorm cancel macro?

[reef glade]

just /cancelaura bladestorm

but only works if u dont have hurricane talented

which u almost never dont

[raw kayak]

study the blade ⚔️

[limpid drift]

crit or haste for AA

[somber lance]

Haste

[grand idol]

I take vers. haste might be slightly better in theory but vers comes with 2.5% dr.

[hazy flower]

You get 7% haste

Instead of 5% vers

[magic canopy]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/wago-app-v2-0-now-supporting-retail-cataclysm-and-elvui-342642?webhook huh

is this just better then curseforge lite

[grand idol]

Tahts interesting. I didnt know that. is it giving us a flat 5% and a 5% boost of your stat rating?

[hazy flower]

Most warriors have around 40% haste

So 100% (base) + 40% =140%

You get 5% of that

140 x 0,05 = 7

[magic canopy]

@smoky kayak have you been using the wago app vs curse

the fact it does elvui is really appealing to me

[smoky kayak]

I don't use either tbh, but I did install it and play around a little bit just to test it

[magic canopy]

gonna give it a whirl

[magic canopy]

wo it lets you auto update shit in game

well not auto

but you can just click and update auras and shit in game

only thing it doesn't have is auto update for regular addons, but im sure that will be added eventually

[exotic kestrel]

Wowup-cf best addon manager imo

[trim flint]

The only thing I want the wago app to do is to stop telling me I have aura updates when I deleted that aura months ago.

[somber lance]

I had issues with it and switched to curse tbh

[exotic kestrel]

idk never had any issues at all

[modest moss]

Mine just doesn't scan correctly for some reason and I go weeks without updates despite others being updated. Which is fun.

Think that's just on my end though

[quasi torrent]

that has been part of wago app for years lol

[steady plover]

wago app i know for escorts in thailand

what wago

[dire hinge]

The link is above, it’s the hub for finding and installing WeakAuras (wago.io)

Seems like a non-overwolf solution for full extension management might be cookin’ which is always nice.

[somber lance]

You got a link to this one?

[steady plover]

robin bobbin son of hawkin wear a tshirt chagne your pfp pfp pfp change it right now ya robin ya robin

[paper hazel]

tusks fix when

[steady plover]

when you stop living with animals and have a partner

[paper hazel]

bruh kids count as animals

absolutely feral

[steady plover]

do you even wished one time if life could revert back , would you still produce kids

[paper hazel]

probably i need someone to pay for my retirement

[obsidian topaz]

Getting really sick of being a warrior in keys

Been maining it for years but unless it’s my key or I’m applying for 8s, there’s really no reason to take one in a run this week

I feel like a worse paladin

[somber lance]

I try to apply to keys where there’s just a tank or a single dps. It increases your chances to get in

Since they’re not yet looking for lust or afflicted affix or CR or wtv

Just from my experience

[somber lance]

Oh raven draven son of gipsy roadmen, i will keep my pfp as is. Ya ravennnnn

[obsidian topaz]

ya but I want to be useful

[strange perch]

Just run your own key, usually solves the issue

[obsidian topaz]

I already said outside of running my own key

and the problem with that is that random shit pugs will brick it and i've got to run RLP 3 or 4 times on key levels that I've already timed

last week pugs brought my RLP down from 14 to 11...

[somber lance]

Be useful by topping the meter and interrupting and not taking too much damage

[obsidian topaz]

Basically what I do every key, but pugs wont know that in advance to take me

[somber lance]

Yeah it’s the same for me bro. That’s warrior life. We just have to accept it and play well and our IO will naturally rise

Just takes a little more time for us compared to ret or spriests

[obsidian topaz]

I'm rerolling next tier

this week has demoralized me

[somber lance]

nah

[obsidian topaz]

I just hate ret

[somber lance]

Look at all the spriest fotm

That are bricking your key

They’re garbage

[obsidian topaz]

yup

[somber lance]

rerolling is not the way

[obsidian topaz]

I havent met an Spriest that has outDPSed me

starting to think I should make brez bracers lol

[somber lance]

Don’t think you will get invited more tbh

[mild hound]

The spriest only works when it’s a coordinated group. I don’t see them do well in pugs. 80% terrible. 19% below avg 1% other

[finite mantle]

The warrior only works when it’s a coordinated group. I don’t see them do well in pugs. 100% terrible.

[obsidian topaz]

warrior works well regardless

[strange perch]

Yeah and I said that’s your best option ma’am

[obsidian topaz]

pull big pull small chain pull were gonna do fine

as arms...

[strange perch]

Plus your running 8s

[strange perch]

They do best in keys above 12 where everything lives long enough to get damage out

[mild hound]

Makes sense

[frigid lava]

Time to time, I get ppl amazed that I actually kick and do cc's

Guess many warriors don't

[mild hound]

Mouse over interrupt, you’d be surprised how many don’t utilize

[frigid lava]

I don't... lol but i do with my ret

I know it's weird

[mild hound]

Makes it a lot easier to do without issues, if I forget to add it to my bar for whatever reason (new spec) - I’ll be missing a ton and not know why until I remember

[obsidian topaz]

I use focus kick not mouseover

missed too many mouseovers with nameplates moving around

[frigid lava]

that's why i don't use mouseover :0

[somber lance]

Timed?

[obsidian topaz]

ya Nok 13 with 4 minutes left

and we had a full wipe

on trash

[somber lance]

there you go. Key back up to 14

[obsidian topaz]

not my key haha

[somber lance]

Ah was gonna say

[obsidian topaz]

got in with just the pally and tank I think

[somber lance]

Yeah nice!

[obsidian topaz]

whats the addon called for the little circular menu that you can put mounts and flsks son

Opie found it

[ember glen]

Whats the build arms running in beta rn?

[wintry scroll]

guys have anyone ever gotten this issue where u can't start wow and when u try to locate it says game doesn't exist

i deleted bnet and re installed and nothing

and there is no solutions online

[strange perch]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1230008337517514772

[strange perch]

just locate the game

itll have you select the file its in, takes like 2 seconds

[wintry scroll]

i did

literally says the same thing

[strange perch]

You must not be selecting the game tbh

[wintry scroll]

brh

i bet i'm selecting the game

[strange perch]

no

select the wow folder as a whole

dont go into it

[wintry scroll]

it's already selected

and when i press this

nothing is located

[strange perch]

delete the file and reinstall

maybe make a copy first

[wintry scroll]

well it just decided to work

so that's great lol

[strange perch]

cpu might be potato

check for updates maybe in your windows settings

[wintry scroll]

ryzen 7 5800

isn't that more than enough for wow

[strange perch]

yeah thats like 5 years old

im at 7950x3d

[midnight mural]

Bruh stop. 5800X3D is fine for wow

[frigid lava]

WoW has been traditionally more cpu dependent than gpu

[strange perch]

he said just 5800, not 5800x or 3d wym

[daring heron]

weird flex

5800 is still pretty good for wow

[strange perch]

crit i know you got a beast pc

[hazy flower]

Cant get 100’s without beast pc innit

[daring heron]

i don't see how that's relevant

5800x is still plenty good

[strange perch]

just like your streams

oh shit

[strange perch]

its def showing its age

5800x3D is diff

[daring heron]

if you're used to having the newest stuff then yeah it sure is

[strange perch]

i usually do, i need a fast pc to connect with the local milfys near me

[frigid lava]

Can't let them milfys hanging, man

[somber lance]

Imagine telling someone they need the latest hardware for a 15 year old game

Yikers

[strange perch]

you realize they update the game with each expansion

cooked take

cuz classic graphics look exactly like retail right

[obsidian topaz]

Its crazy how much overall Roar does

for just one button

[somber lance]

AA?

[obsidian topaz]

I mean sure you buff it a bit

not even

RLP and I wasnt running 2x blooborne

it was tied with MS

[somber lance]

Yeah depends how tank pulls but its very nice

I hated using spear

[obsidian topaz]

other than the aggro rip I liked it

like aftershock even more tho

"DW guys I've got this pack on lock if you dont move it"

[mild hound]

Spear should work like a sigil, imo. Silence. Let it cook

[frigid lava]

Agreed, it needs more utility

[meager prairie]

we should be using axe during raz shield right?

[halcyon breach]

Yes

It gets buffed by the mechanic as well

[frigid lava]

How hard does that hit

[gaunt owl]

twice as hard ?

cant remember the buff when you hug your teammates

lego is mighty fine to hold slightly for amp dmg phase

especially when our own CD dont align nicely

[midnight mural]

Mb, read it as 5800x3d in my head

[quasi torrent]

is a big buff

maybe even x3

cause my silly little wrecking throw did 1.3m

[gaunt owl]

wrecking throw stronk

i always forgor to take it

and i kinda hate it as Arms anyway

[fickle lotus]

Can i DM here someone for a simple Theorycrafting Calculation for a Spell ?

[gaunt owl]

just sent it here

so if the guy fuck up the math

he gonna get bashed for our enjoyment

[fickle lotus]

I just want to know the exactly Formula to calculate the DMG of Mortal Strike for Example.

[gaunt owl]

its just basic AP with all the modifier coming after

[fickle lotus]

where can i find these ?

[gaunt owl]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=12294/mortal-strike

[gaunt owl]

wowhead is where we find the info for pretty much everything

[fickle lotus]

If i Multiply AP with 212,52% its only half the DMG of the Spell ingame

[obsidian topaz]

depends what you are hitting

targets level, how much armor they have, can they block

[fickle lotus]

If i just stand in Valdraken without a Target ?

[gaunt owl]

Armor is always 30% iirc ?

[fickle lotus]

Currently DMG of Tooltip says 85.951

[gaunt owl]

you have 5% dmg variance

[fickle lotus]

AP*212,52% = 37148

[obsidian topaz]

Does this mean anything?

[gaunt owl]

when you the target dummy you mean

but wich one ?

[obsidian topaz]

he probably just means the tooltip

[gaunt owl]

if you hit the pvp target its gonna be slightly different too

[fickle lotus]

yes

Tooltip is 85951. AP Formula is 37148

Even with the 15% added Tierset Boni it isnt anywhere near that

How much Attackpower is currently reasonable at 522 ? 17500ish ?

[obsidian topaz]

not really sure that it matters

[gaunt owl]

as much as you can stack

but AP is tied to Strength anyway

[obsidian topaz]

ive got 18355 STR at 526

[gaunt owl]

i'm not even sure what you wanna really see @fickle lotus

[fickle lotus]

Okay. If i hover over Mortal Strike ingame, it says 85.951 DMG.

If i calculate Ap*212,52% im only at the 37148.

[neat aurora]

Does it factor weapon damage on AP scaling

[smoky kayak]

what are you trying to calculate? Attack Power isn't just strength

Attack Power is byproduct of strength and weapon damage

[gaunt owl]

oh yeah forgor about Weapoon dmg

[hazy flower]

Thats the big one

I helped to implement ip into notevenclose but it doesnt have weapon damage so the value is off

[fickle lotus]

I downloaded a weakaura, which shows AP. Dont know it thats correct.
I just want to get into Theorycraft a little bit.

[gaunt owl]

my secret i dont dive into the working of stuff

but more about min / maxing rotation

[smoky kayak]

your AP or the spells AP coefficient

[fickle lotus]

It says 17480

[smoky kayak]

that sounds more like your raw strength, which is not equal to Attack Power

[fickle lotus]

My Strength is something about 16500K ish

[smoky kayak]

it's still not correct

your attack power should be closer to 23k in that case

pretty sure that weak aura is just wrong

[fickle lotus]

For sure.

Deja Vu Stats says 0 AP

[smoky kayak]

Yeah DeJa hasn't been updated in a long time

[fickle lotus]

Even then the DMG of MS would be anything like 50Kish bit if i hover over MS, it says 86K

Like, i dont get it

[smoky kayak]

Tooltips don't account for armor

and if you're mathing out the raw attack power coefficient, you need to factor all the various hidden damage modifiers, like the spec aura

[fickle lotus]

Armor decreases the DMG ?

[halcyon breach]

Yes

By default it's 30% less damage from armour

[smoky kayak]

armor decreases physical damage, elemental isn't reduced

[gaunt owl]

the funky part of WoW

reason number #527 i dont dive too much in there

[fickle lotus]

So if i have more Armor, i decrease my DMG ?

Theoretically

[gaunt owl]

the target armor

not yours

[fickle lotus]

Too clarify : If i calculate 212% * AP so i get the DMG of MS.

This NR. is currently half the size if the Tooltip of my MS DMG.

[halcyon breach]

In fact you having more armour will make you do more damage

[plucky mortar]

hell yea.

[strange perch]

just like flavor pocket gives more dps

[outer holly]

Flavor pocket adds armor?

[dusty summit]

Idk if you’re being sarcastic or not but he’s right tho, “armored to the teeth” talent

[strange perch]

no flavor pocket does give more dps, Banezi said this awhile ago

[dusty summit]

how?

[somber lance]

cause you don't have time to eat in m+ if you die

[hallow turtle]

And can’t eat if you get BR on a raid boss

[dusty summit]

Just don’t die EZ

[gray steeple]

Flavor packet helps. Psychological Boost

[obsidian topaz]

Pro-tip dont use this WA

[primal oar]

is there a priority list for bullions for arms?

[obsidian topaz]

yessir #arms message

[primal oar]

ty i have 460s atm would signet and augury be good choice?

[obsidian topaz]

ummm no, did you read it?

Augury is a fury trinket

do you have legendary?

[left wagon]

If I dabble in Arms and Prot, Would a safe bet for embellishments be Allied Bracers + Crafted Boots with Shadowflame? Not trying to Min-Max Arms at all, just trying to soak up late season funs

[obsidian topaz]

You could probably also run BSL and shadowflame

I run vers bracers and shadowflame boots for prot, vers bracers and BSL for arms

[left wagon]

oh sick, Thanks!

[obsidian topaz]

this group in particular fk them

they have lust they have brez and 2 affix players and Im 130 IO higher than them let me innnnn

theyve been declining me for about 30 minutes now

[sage badge]

Use the addon instead

[opal folio]

The real question is why are you reapplying?

[obsidian topaz]

and I know whatever group finally ends up taking me is going to be full shitters

[obsidian topaz]

at first thinking ok maybe they are tired of waiting and a warrior is "good enough"

now its just out of spite

[opal folio]

[obsidian topaz]

not even gonna accept if they do take me I've still got my dignity

[opal folio]

[strange perch]

this man has been complaining about getting into groups all day

[obsidian topaz]

this is true

I usually play with a healer

I think I underestimated how helpful that is

[strange perch]

lust healer in group is pretty big

[obsidian topaz]

was a priest

Finally got into something

got fkn removed 30s later

im done

[strange perch]

lol, just run your own key

[west wasp]

what are the best gems for arms warrior?

[somber lance]

in retail or mop remix?

[west wasp]

retail

[formal verge]

More than likely Haste , X stat you need. I’d just sim tho since the slightest piece will alter it a bit.

[proud lintel]

Is there any talent build for the war within beta?

Just curious, ive been making my own

[strange perch]

prolly in tww channel

[meager lynx]

is there any reason to run out of pack and do heroic leap?

[outer holly]

Style points

[nova marsh]

If there's an aoe under your feet?

[arctic iris]

Maybe if you're fighting infinite targets, doesn't it have uncapped aoe?

But a pull that big is nonexistent, and even if it weren't you'd be more likely to want to save it for dodging or repositioning with how much stuff is probably going on

Or to kite after the tank dies

[nova marsh]

Trying to do damage with heroic leap is memeing at best

[dire hinge]

Or to keep uptime you’d leap out and charge back in, but likely not leap in

Charge gives rage, charge is friend

[reef glade]

yea no sane person does

waste of time mickey mouse wa only used to complain in class discords

[quasi torrent]

its really funny

[quasi torrent]

only thing class discs are for

and to spread misinformation ofc

[copper summit]

how many items we suppose to have from bullions (not including the one we got extra week)

[reef glade]

4 i guess

rite

or nah

3..

[quasi torrent]

3

4 next week

(+1, but you're aware of this)

[copper summit]

ah cool tyty just made a alt and didnt know how long i have to live in LFR

[quasi torrent]

the amount is yes

[tacit gate]

that moment you get with raidbots where you forget to select training dummy and think you're a bad dps but it turns out you're not

[steady plover]

are you narcist ? the idea to produce kids to be your slave is something evil , do you live in a 3rd world country or something because as i understand if you live in Europe or us , the taxes you pay while working will be returned to you when you retire

[ivory quartz]

[manic stirrup]

what is this

[gaunt owl]

looks cursed

[manic stirrup]

it was like a +3 or something

i respect the cook attempt but

needs to go back to oven

[nova marsh]

Bro wasn't cookin

He was burning

Sks no bloodborne or tides, bs no hurricane, like huh

[last wraith]

Storm eaters boon any good?

[errant goblet]

does anyone have a guide or video explaining how to get details on beta?

[eternal vortex]

griefing trinket

[last wraith]

Why?

[eternal vortex]

cuz it locks down u

[valid sun]

What’s a good ST build.

[eternal vortex]

u can also take 1 point off from bloodbourne and put a point to exhilerating blow

[valid sun]

Can I do m keys with this build?

[boreal quartz]

Not rlly

You wanna run wb + iftk + cleave and itll be fine then

So drop fatality to cleave

[last wraith]

Ehh prolly better than 489

Simmed higher both st and dominated in aoe

[eternal vortex]

you do u bro, use whatever u want

[somber lance]

its good in keys +2 to +5 where a swirlie doesn't kill you

[proper iron]

Does anyone know when the dragonslayer event is starting?

[lost kernel]

fuck m+ . hours of applying to mythic +6 dungs and no invites. 1500 rio and 515 gear. stupid s4

[astral yarrow]

Isn’t that pretty low

[jade basalt]

+6 is also pretty low

we all know the only way is becoming a prot

especially for such early gearing runs

[raw kayak]

yepyep dps a dime a dozen play the support role if u got it

[hazy flower]

@daring heron have u tried arms in some 18-19 bh

how does it feel on totems with no sks

[daring heron]

i did fine on 18 fort

[fresh spire]

mans dropped hurricane to get used to beta

[hazy flower]

it doesnt scale with week

fort=tyra

[daring heron]

boss dmg kinda wack tho

[hazy flower]

so should be ok I guess

I took frost magus and sp

[daring heron]

cause you have to hold so often for totem

[fresh spire]

all im feeling guyss from beta

[hazy flower]

I'll have the meta guys kill the boss

I'm there to hold my wb

man I miss sks

that shit was banging

pop everything and absolutely DELETE the totem

now it's probably a dps loss to use sks on the totem xd

ngl tho if we time this it's gonna be a lot of puntos

[slow saddle]

Sks was so nice in keys

So sad they didnt just tune it to still be good💩

[boreal quartz]

now imagine AM works

[fresh spire]

now imagine slayer interacted with ravagar too

[cinder remnant]

Do we have some list on what is Second wind good against in raids or m+ like the list of spell reflectable mechanics?

[dire hinge]

Pretty sure it’s only good on Rashok at the moment within raid. M+ is rarer to work, though it kick in at the end of every pack at least

I don’t know of a list though off the top of my head

[cold onyx]

Very good during Bursting weeks

[loud tide]

Hello guys! The arms guide doesn't take Test of Might, but rotation says we should Bladestorm during that window! if I'm not taking that talent, when should I bladestorm? 🙂 thank you

[hallow turtle]

BS before cds on ST, and after during aoe

[loud tide]

Thank you mr Wartooth ^^

[spare goblet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/petr6PBoWVNkTrbRGFYLtC Can anyone weigh in on this augury I have in my vault for raids/tyrannical week over a puzzle box stuck at 515? Am I missing anything that logs might not be considering with this trinket?

[hallow turtle]

Puzzle box is valued more in shorter fights, also I don’t think the sim is 100% for puzzle box because it sims lower than other choices but still performs really well on a 3 min fight

Your sim is 5 mins. That is the best I can come up with for why puzzle box doesn’t look as good on paper

[spare goblet]

Good point. Thank you

[gray steeple]

You are running an m+ build on an ST top gear sim. Intentional?? That could be messing with the recommendations.

[spare goblet]

Ah I thought it pulled from all my availible specs and used the best one

[hallow turtle]

If you want that you have to select the specs you have at the bottom before simming

The sim does not auto select anything

[clever crag]

SKS was epic

Real burst not 1000 shitty little cuts bladestorm does

[covert oyster]

what kind of secondary stats should i aim for arms

[gray steeple]

Haste. Mastery. Critical strike. Versatility. As far as %, sim for recommendations

[covert oyster]

im at 36% crit, 37% haste, 32% mastery, 20% vers

sims telling me to socket my gems haste/vers

[finite wasp]

does anyone have an opinion on ashes of embersoul for arms?

is it a good trinket for keys or not rlly

[marble steppe]

i bought tusks from remix now im a warrior main

[quaint otter]

[wooden thistle]

so I know grieftorch is good but Rumbling Ruby ? Unelss its mythic we dont have many deaths in raid so would Rumbling ruby be better? cant seem to find anything good via googling

[clever jay]

Is there a cap for bullions you get for the season?

[clever crag]

[rare kite]

grieftorch isn't that good for warrior

[sage badge]

It's good.

[finite wasp]

like would you say its better in some keys than puzzle box, i feel the burst from the ashes is very very strong and i think it might outdps puzzle box overall

[sage badge]

Its basically better than pbox. It's still treated as a 3min cd (assuming you're using avatar on cd).

I use ashes. I plan on getting class trinket at some point. Ashes + class trinket proc + cds would be giga.

[finite wasp]

hmmm interesting

[wild heart]

Ruby fucking smacks as prot

[noble anvil]

guys you know the pvp engineering item that pulls everyone in an area

its like spear but way bigger radius

it actually works on bosses

only tried in DoTI but havent tried in raid or M+ yet

[paper gulch]

Im very curious about it and thinking about buying that too. All the 535 items as well just for bag ilvl.

[copper garden]

Very warrior brain, buy biggest number

[ornate eagle]

Very grug

Recently seen a ret with 530 ilvl

Not at all inting with that nooo

[hazy flower]

Still waiting for that belt so I can be 529

[ornate eagle]

I need a 528 neck then I'm 529

[paper gulch]

Me buy big number. Big number make me look better. Me keep item in bag. Me get in more pugs.

[hazy flower]

I can buy sark cloak rn

[ornate eagle]

Bro if you get into pugs because you're 530 and not 529/528 then it's not a good pug

Nobody real gna give a shit about 1ilvl

[hazy flower]

I dont play on war enough to actually care but I do want to have that maxed out ilv

Just feels cool

[ornate eagle]

Only reason I'd ever use sark cloak is to catalyse it

[paper gulch]

Zug zug.

Nothing else to do with the boullions. I have all the mog.

[hazy flower]

I’ll prob just buy it for the sake of ilv thats it

[paper gulch]

Yep

[ornate eagle]

i have atleast 2 more items to buy before i run out of valid bullion buys

maybe 3

[hazy flower]

If you include trinkets

Its a lot more than 2-3 for me

[ornate eagle]

gholak, oce, signet for me

[hazy flower]

Icon oce signet sark cloak rageheart augury

And gholak ye

[ornate eagle]

rageheart? augury? icon?

[hazy flower]

Rageheart augury for ilv

I thought icon + oce is best simming combo for short fights but I’ll double check before buying ofc

[ornate eagle]

only if someone actually runs icon

lol

which NOBODY does

for turbo short fights its grieftorch+oce

for not short but not turbo short, its still grieftorch+oce

maybe puzzle+oce if its like volcoross short

to hold puzzle for execute

[thick kelp]

ashes tho

over grieftorch

[ornate eagle]

[thick kelp]

was simming miles better

[ornate eagle]

ah yes

[thick kelp]

unless its a boost run

[ornate eagle]

totally not gonna have people die at opportune times

for grieftorching

[thick kelp]

I got my 99's on bosses so now I kill myself for my raids grieftorchers

if they wont get natty 2nd use

[ornate eagle]

if youre not grieftorch abusing youre not parsing

[hazy flower]

We do have

A healer

And a tank

[ornate eagle]

nani

[hazy flower]

Running icon

Oh ye and grieftorch

[ornate eagle]

your guild too ethical

what dis

[hazy flower]

Extra item

To buy

[ornate eagle]

i bought HC grief for 300k of a hunter

turbo worth

[sullen plover]

2m single target sim - zaqali sims second highest after puzzle box. Worth spending a bullion on zaqali if I haven’t got mythic track puzzle box yet from vault?

[sacred zodiac]

just use hc track or

[sonic zealot]

When starting a fresh pack with/ all CD’s should avatar be cast before BS?

[sacred zodiac]

ye with the wb

[crystal umbra]

Does Fatality get buffed by Colossus Smash?

[potent portal]

How do we feel about double BS on Mythic Broodlord?

[sage badge]

No. But it can be buffed by ToM

[alpine burrow]

Hey guys! Does the Bolstering affix still increase enemy health as well or does it only affect damage now

Because I can’t recall if it was changed from affecting both enemy health and damage to just damage

[eternal vortex]

it is only dmg

[sand bear]

Hello fellow warriors, I have a question. Whats another 2 trinket combo i could use if i dont want to touch puzzle box with a ten foot pole?

[cold garnet]

oce & icon

[minor gust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1fXQGXj_-E
43:40 "people who play warriors become more stupid over time"
I couldnt agree more

[magic canopy]

tbh i think high m+ is a good way to actually not become a brainlet melee

[minor gust]

gotta do a +18 or else you might catch the disease know as

[magic canopy]

i need to do keys

ive been trying to do all raids in remix every day

[frosty remnant]

Does anyone use mouse wheel up and down as commonly pressed binds. I’ve been using that for camera zoom but realized how useless that is for such good binds. Put whirlwild on mwd and it actually feels really good and fun lol

[minor gust]

I know some ppl that do I use mousewheel binds for clique whenever im healing

[magic canopy]

they can be decent. just use whatever is comfortable for ya

[frosty remnant]

Yeah I know a lot of people use mouse wheel for off gcd and mouseover stuff since blizzard frames actually work with mwu and mwd. Just not sure if rotational ability is the move long term. Whirlwind on mwd feels really nice though ngl

Pretty sure Tmy uses mouse wheel for whirlwind too

[minor gust]

its all personal preference at the end of the day

if it feels comfortable to you and you like to just do it

there are ppl out there who unbind wasd and only move with mouse they exist

[frosty remnant]

Yeah I don’t use an mmo mouse I use a g pro superlight so I like to bind as much stuff to my mouse as possible with modifiers. Could never get comfy with another type of mouse and I play other games

[smoky kayak]

idk man, some of the dumbest people I know are M+ heroes

[magic canopy]

oh no

[thick kelp]

m+ players are the most feelycraft players

istg

[magic canopy]

at least i can listen to Byfs new 10 hours of destiny lore

[strange perch]

Impending on MWU, Rallying on MWD, ping on middle click

[magic canopy]

my bars are kinda cursed

[thick kelp]

I need madox new yap sesh

to listen

[magic canopy]

How about yap about special items from raid being normalized

[thick kelp]

banger

[magic canopy]

tomorro i make

[thick kelp]

mention the new polearm

and how shite it is

[magic canopy]

its fuckin weird is what it is

it feels like half its value is in the ring from the last boss

[thick kelp]

I have tried it in like 5 dungeons now

its barely 1% of my overall every time

and it has no mainstat

[magic canopy]

itll probably be buffed

but fixing a dam proc is pretty easy

at least its stat line is decent for us

[thick kelp]

no main stat is still astro cringe

[magic canopy]

does the fist wep have mainstat

i think it does

[thick kelp]

ye it does

I would say rogue is favourite child but trickster xd

[magic canopy]

about to be forced to make a wizard

to pug M+

die wizard die

[gaunt owl]

have you heard about the dent from m+ ?

thats what happend when you bash your head too many times

[thick kelp]

Ppaww vs m+ players

[gaunt owl]

they care so much about their overall to make themself look goods

[minor gust]

irl pp size is = your overall dmg in a dungeon if your are top your pp big if your are bottom its smol

[formal verge]

for halls (specifically looking at ice boss) is it best to take FBV over IP?

[frosty hull]

If i wanted to play my warrior alt how gimped is damage without leggo?

[honest girder]

15k~

[frosty hull]

Rip then. Ahh well guess I can always play him in TWW

[honest girder]

Still playable

Just don’t expect to compete on parses with Lego wars

[wind vault]

Can anyone tell me if in WOW REMIX that 12% bonus exp buff to cloak after killing a Boss in normal raid is given every time I kill this Boss or is that a one time thing?

[halcyon breach]

It's given every time you kill it when you're eligible for loot

[wind vault]

Oh so that's sick

And there is a daily lockout right?

[halcyon breach]

Correct

[wind vault]

How much bonus exp % should I have before starting to open xp items from mail

[outer holly]

208% brought me up to 62

so higher than that ig

[wind vault]

Ok I see, thank You very much 🙂

[proud plover]

save the exp bonus for the higher levels - you want to go from 60-70 instantly so dont use them until you are like 40+ or you suffer thhe stupid scaling issues from 60-70

[daring heron]

i have serious m+ dent

[gaunt owl]

it can lead to some serious long term dmg of the cognitive ability

[dull siren]

Playing M+ as a main game instead of mini game will lead to extreme dentge

[wind vault]

Okay! Thank You 😉

[loud tide]

Any breakpoints for stats?

[slender sonnet]

m+ minigame mode onl

[austere willow]

How do you effectively spell reflect the last boss on nokhud - conductive strike is it I believe?

• precast SR a few seconds before the boss cast goes off.
• make distance from the boss in order to not get meleed.
• taunt the boss right before the cast.
• have the tank take it back and continue as usual.

Is that the right order?

[reef glade]

uh i mean it is a long cast so u can cast reflect right after you taunt

once u see the cast

assuming youre comfortable/capable of reacting that fast

while not necessary it might make sure u dont overestimate how long until u get hit so you dont get flattened as it drops off in the last sec of the cast if u precast too early

[reef glade]

rest is pmuch it tho yea

u can only do every other one

in like dbm and im sure bigwigs you can make it so that tank mech's timer shows up as dps

basically guaranteed to work every time

[austere willow]

yeah, I checked bw as well. Thanks!

[reef glade]

there is also good taunt reflect on second boss but thats more dangerous

[austere willow]

yeah

[reef glade]

as tank has like 1 second to take boss back or youre insta dead

[austere willow]

I'd not do that with pugs personally

[slender sonnet]

my first 99 of the season (ignore everything else)

[reef glade]

[slender sonnet]

im proud of me

[reef glade]

fantastic job king

[slender sonnet]

thanks king

[eternal vortex]

pog

[midnight mural]

Gj bro !

[karmic forge]

that is a big number, big guy 👏

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-wink-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-winking-gif-8571642900128270155

[sage badge]

You own

[slender sonnet]

thanks king

[slender sonnet]

stole ur build

[daring heron]

precast reflect 2-3 secs before the very first conductive strike is correct

means you get the next one too

but after that it's every other

[quasi torrent]

couldnt u do
ref ref miss ref ref miss ?
im not 100% if the timer on it is actually consistent

[reef glade]

o i mean if theres tech like that and he's comfy with it then neat but deadly if u mess up

[midnight mural]

Best padders

[tacit gate]

duuude I gotta setup warcraftlogs, but a part of me think it's just gonna make me lag.

[frigid lava]

finally crafted BSL

[slender sonnet]

the biggest of padders

it was a fun build to play

[daring heron]

dont think so

i did pre-reflect every time just in case there were more timings where you could do back to back

[dire hinge]

It’s very low impact, but you can also toggle it on and off in-game if you think it’s impacting you

[tacit gate]

I'll think about it, in the past I had intermittent drops, but back then I didn't know my adapter kept turning off, which would cause me to have spikes where I lagged. This time I have a new stable adapter and raiding just fine w/o dying to mechanics.

[latent moss]

those usb wifi adapters?

[tacit gate]

yeah I don't exactly have a choice either, Unless I plan on destroying my neighbor's apartments to run a cable through.

[latent moss]

unlucky i guess cause those adapters suck and are never 100% stable

idk your situation but you can buy a really long flat ethernet cable and tape it down to the floor

since its a flat cable it wont mess with doors and stuff

[dire hinge]

fwiw the other option is to log your raids locally and then upload them after you finish.
Both should be incredibly low-impact since it's just writing txt files locally

[quasi torrent]

some exceptions apply

notably immune breaks on tindral were BAD perf wise

[tacit gate]

Oh yeah I forgot you can do that, I'm a returning player

[quasi torrent]

also "live logging" isnt really live unless u tell it to be

"live" generally refers to it uploading the log after an encounter

there is a setting where it attempts to live update during the fight, but ive seen that thing be slow so idk

[tacit gate]

yeah I would rather log locally then upload no harm in that.

[gaunt owl]

its easy to do

just need to enable advanced combat logs

and tell your favorite addon to log automatically

and watch a file grow up to be 50 Go because you forgot

[swift crown]

Fwiw you ALWAYS log locally, what live logging does (unless you enable real-time uploads) is just detecting changes in your log file and uploading when a whole encounter is observed

[tacit gate]

ah

[swift crown]

All the client does is read your log file really

And if you don't specifically tell it to it won't start uploading until you are out of the relevant encounter

[somber lance]

does it really make the game lag?

i never noticed, always live log my guilds raids

[gaunt owl]

on Tindral it was nuking your PC

because blizzard

[somber lance]

odd

[tacit gate]

I dont think warcraftlogs made me lag, I think at the time it was just my adapter, but I don't wanna introduce overhead, not that it matters since as others pointed out already it's all local before being pushed out into the network

[swift crown]

Truly an idea of all time to make a mechanic where you have 360 enemy damage events and multiple hundreds of allied damage events at the same time

[dire hinge]

ayyy TWW release date

(from xbox games showcase)

[gaunt owl]

i need raid release date

probably still the 3 weeks stuff like we always had

[steep osprey]

When does Remix end?

[gaunt owl]

71 days

[dire hinge]

Aug 19th ish then

So right on schedule

[gaunt owl]

so one week of downtime

[steep osprey]

How many weeks is prepatch usually?

nah we have prepatch

[gaunt owl]

a month early for prepatch

[steep osprey]

TWW isn't prepatch

[gaunt owl]

most of the time

[steep osprey]

So remix would be up during prepatch?

that doesn't seem ideal

[somber lance]

why

who cares

[steep osprey]

true i guess

[somber lance]

sept 10th raids

when is m+. be the same?

[gaunt owl]

same week

[dire hinge]

People have 13M hp and can solo raids by themselves with 71 days left on the clock still, I don’t think it’ll matter.

Folks can use it as a way to level alts ahead of time if they wanna swap classes / try out talents ahead of time swiftly

[upper coyote]

what have they done to execute on the beta. the animation looks so awful

[hazy flower]

@dull siren @gaunt owl

bh 16 I went because I was bored

also this juice

first drop is when I had 5 stacks of bleed on me

[gaunt owl]

approved

[hazy flower]

I had a good healer so that helped

Still massive

Broodkeeper + good ip usage can do wonders

[gaunt owl]

i'm so far behind with my crests that i only slotted Broodkeeper after the reclear today

[hazy flower]

Naah

[gaunt owl]

fated season so boring

[hazy flower]

I log my war mostly for recrafts and raid nowadays

I got av 18 after this key so might do that tbh its a fun key

[gaunt owl]

gained 10k dps today because i finally recrafted my torc

and next week i'm gonna be fully geared anyway

[boreal quartz]

craft set me back weeks

[gaunt owl]

wtf did you do 😄

i'm sitting on more than 200 crests

[boreal quartz]

not play the game (i also crafted bsl legs so i had to remake)

@daring heron 👃 sniffa

[reef glade]

mfw ive made 4 crafted items

[boreal quartz]

@quasi torrent bad player gets bad log

[reef glade]

didnt cleave hard enough..

[boreal quartz]

i forgor to ss in opener

i did press cleave though

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/erm-what-the-sigma-squidward-meme-tiktok-reaction-gif-574741893352575449

[quasi torrent]

nnot even 900k

noob

[boreal quartz]

i forgot to sss in opener

maan

[elfin kindle]

is this any good or bait? sims 4k higher than my 528 box on 5min

[boreal quartz]

nor did i equip box

brainfart moment

[boreal quartz]

its a 5 min sim or shit trink

[elfin kindle]

huh?

[west wasp]

Isnt priority moves for arms warrior whirlwind, MS, OP, Rend and slam for a filler

[somber lance]

no check rotation priority on wowhead

[west wasp]

thank you friend

[elfin kindle]

simmed without buffs, thats why

[inner wasp]

does anyone know how to actually parse what bugsack tells me

i get a blizz notification that my addons are experiencing errors, i check bugsack, i see 25 undecipherable errors

like what are u. what caused this

[gaunt owl]

its gonna tell you wich addons did this

the incredible lengthy error you can send it to the addon dev

[inner wasp]

i think it mentions weakauras, but it doesnt tell me which one

[gaunt owl]

if its from one of your aura cant help

[inner wasp]

ig i can just try to prune off old auras from past expacs

and if its something i actually use then its over

[gaunt owl]

if you got old ass WA from past xpac

thats one you

[inner wasp]

hey man its not my fault

[gaunt owl]

i always start fresh at the start of a new xpac

[inner wasp]

what if i need these eternal palace co-tank auras again some day?

[gaunt owl]

they gonna be updated by then

like old dungeon that come back into the m+ pool

[slow saddle]

Heck i almost start fresh every season

[stiff jay]

this is right or im missing something?

thought the dif would be bigger

[somber lance]

is that legendary 535?

[stiff jay]

515 same as my weapon

[somber lance]

then yeah

its 6k dps diff for the same ilvl

thats massive

[stiff jay]

pretty often i see people claiming 10% dif

6k is far from 10%

[somber lance]

compare a 535 leggo to a 528 ashkandur

[outer holly]

Its a pretty small diff, this is why we say leggi isn't needed, but to top parse it is

You really start to see the diff in aoe

[fresh spire]

Lego has aoe scaling too

Where Ash doesnt

[stiff jay]

since i will get my leggo prob 1 week before tww drop i was pretty letdown of playing war

people made it look like a class enabler

[fresh spire]

If you didn't have lego in s3 your damage sucked

It was our enabler then

[somber lance]

legendary is definitely insane

[outer holly]

Not at all, we just whine because our DPS was tuned to having the leggo, instead of being amplified by it

[somber lance]

the dot dmge in keys or aoe fights is a good chunk

[stiff jay]

i will get it on aug with luck lol since its so hard to find people doing fyra out of awakened weeks

[minor gust]

is what it is

really dumb they didnt just let u buy the lego with bullion

but it is what it is

[sudden crest]

the fact that they didnt changed how you get the leggo on s4 it blaffers me

its beyond stupidity

its already a meme season

make people get it before tww at least lol

[outer holly]

Yeah, gotta keep an eye out for community events tbh like that all pally amirdrassil run, otherwise pugging fyrakk is gonna be pain

[somber lance]

but "it's a legendary it needs to be hard to acquire", will 100% be their reasoning

i know it's dumb

[sudden crest]

being hard to acquire when it will be relevant to content i concur

but on this meme season that they are showering us with gear

lol

[somber lance]

yeah it's not good

don't see them changing it either

[outer holly]

Took me 3.5 months to drop, meanwhile the bdk had theirs drop 2nd kill, hard isn't really the right word

[minor gust]

the guy who got it on LFR week 3 deserved it more than you

[outer holly]

Yeah that guy really worked for it

[sudden crest]

the need to redesign how we get this things, like a huge quest gathering itens from every boss etc

would be better than this random rng shit

[stiff jay]

100%

[minor gust]

my favorite part of S3 was killing Mythic Fyrakk twice before I got the lego

[somber lance]

mythic fyrrak should be 100% tbh

[minor gust]

^

[outer holly]

My guild fell apart the same week I crafted my leggo, didn't even get to use it on mythic lmao

[sudden crest]

you should just get xxx itens that every amir boss would drop and do a long ass quest

rng is bad enough

[minor gust]

dont worry we spent all of S3 complaining about the shit aquistion and gave many suggestions to do it better next time

Blizzard doesnt listen

[dire hinge]

yeah like some sort of Lesser Ember

[sudden crest]

exactly

[stiff jay]

that would be pretty good

[rugged wave]

Anyon knows when will the season end?

[outer holly]

At least they finally listened when we told them the on use was a DPS loss

[minor gust]

yeah they only had to buff it like 4 times

[dire hinge]

early/mid august

[strange perch]

@boreal quartz @fresh spire do you think instead of running hurricane i could run unhinged? i feel like it is kinda decent with the current tier set.

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

no

2 more mortal strikes is nothing

compared to 30% strength for ~9 seconds averaging out

[fresh spire]

Would be fine imo if wr had ravager now

Since you can still smack boss

[grand idol]

What unhinged should do is make bladestorm interact with sweeping strikes.

[latent moss]

no

bladestorm is bladestorm

u spin

pretty sure unhinged ms cleave

with ss up

[wary raft]

just play cata for that 🙂

[left stone]

In multi target do I ignore the sd proc until I have nothing else to press ?

[wind flicker]

Pretty much

Depends on how many targets and if there is a prio target you want to hit harder i guess

[fresh spire]

Unhinged ms are sweeped by ss during storm.

[reef glade]

holy

real news

4 ms's still dont beat the strength tho

funny that it still procced bloodletting's rend targets below 35% with ms tho

[rare kite]

true, atleast in tww unhinged is stronger than on live(not that we have a choice tbf)

[inner wasp]

if i play arms warrior in wow am i obligated to play greatsword in monster hunter?

[smoky kayak]

doesn't really matter if it does or not, that's what tuning is for, and a new expansion is when most of that tuning happens

the interesting part is that Unhinged allows all sorts of interesting interactions, while Hurricane was just another burst window on top of existing burst windows

[rare kite]

no, just heavily encouraged to

[charred brook]

Shoulda made a lancer hero class

Spec*

I wanna fucking impale people

Like lancer from fate series

[mighty sky]

guys we have a target in execute phase.. what is our rotation?

Execute x2 , Overpower x2, MS ?

[wary raft]

3x exe into ms if you can afford it 2x exe and 1x op into ms if you cant

[livid cloak]

But Ms every 4th gcd

Md

MS holy shit

Most of the time it's exe exe op ms

[mighty sky]

i tought we should proc 2 stacks of overpower too

[wary raft]

no

[livid cloak]

No

In single target you can ignore martial prowess buff

It just happens

But doesn't affect your rotation

[wary raft]

in between MS you will have 3 casts, you want at least 2 to be execute 3rd can be execute or overpower depending on your rage

[livid cloak]

Yeah that

Less than 40 rage, use op

Over 40, use execute

[mighty sky]

I see, ty guys really appreciated 🙂

[wary raft]

np, gl out there

[latent moss]

fuck the strength

hurricane gone

curse lifted from the spec

let bladestorm deal damage

wait this is live

[wary raft]

so glad its finally gone

well next expansion but

[eternal vortex]

oh u changed pfp

nice

[wary raft]

ye

[boreal quartz]

Next expansion sir

[magic canopy]

soon

we will be free from our hurricane shackles

[paper gulch]

Word. Hurricane was horrible. Should have been able to be extended from whirlwind imo.

[maiden copper]

Maybe a silly question, but if I'm playing a M+ build that has cleave, wouldn't it be a DPS gain to slot it above slam as a filler even in ST? As long as you're not accidentally munching any Martial Prowess or Executioner's Precision procs for cleave instead of Mortal Strike, it seems like cleave's DPS/fury ratio is plainly better than slam, right?

[halcyon breach]

It's effectively replacing Slam as your last priority filler yes

It's not just the DPR, but also the fact that it can proc the set bonus too

[maiden copper]

Awesome, ty!

I saw no mention on any guide (unless I missed it) and wanted to make sure I wasn't griefing myself

[paper gulch]

If you can do the overpower dance well, cleave beats slam even in single target. Depending on the build not having slam talents pushes you to replace it with cleave.

[halcyon breach]

You would never pick CF in keys to begin with, where Slam would have any reasonable spot as a filler

[maiden copper]

I assume you really don't want to waste Martial Prowess or Executioner's Precision procs with cleave in ST, which is maybe what you were referring to when you said "doing the overpower dance well"

[halcyon breach]

You don't want to waste MP no, and Cleave does not trigger Executioner's

[maiden copper]

Oh, right

< Longtime fury player that is trying to be a more well-rounded warrior next tier. Thank y'all for the help

[paper gulch]

Well during execute phase i dont think theres any room to cleave as spamming execute is still better. What i mean by cleave dance is being able to capitalize on available overpowers and using it on the other (cleave or ms) is on cooldown and the overpower didnt reset them.

So OP>MS>OP(non reset)>cleave. Etc.

[maiden copper]

Understood, thanks!

[quasi torrent]

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[halcyon breach]

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[quasi torrent]

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[halcyon breach]

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[quasi torrent]

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[quasi torrent]

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@halcyon breach i think today is abussy day (it will go splendidly, trust me)

[halcyon breach]

I will assuredly clear it all in one go

[quasi torrent]

ALL of it

surely u don't need about 40k dps to clear final floor

[halcyon breach]

I have the tech now to do that much dps

[quasi torrent]

real

[frigid lava]

What's 5th bullion purchase

[slow saddle]

well what did u buy so far ?

ive got both rings - leggo - trinket so id say last trinket ?

depending on content // loot drops so far

[frigid lava]

both rings, leggo, augury so far

[gray herald]

probably an arms trinket then, isnt augury only really good for fury

[frigid lava]

Augury does good for arms too

[gray herald]

I think ideally you want puzzle box + icon/oce for keys and short fights and brand + icon/oce for longer raid fights

so you'd wanna buy one of those for arms

these screenshots seem to be like 30-60s fights? with an augury proc so of course it's high up

it's not bad, but there's a lot of better options

[frigid lava]

It was a boss fight

Augury is ok in multi target but hits pretty good single target

[gray herald]

yeah 'pretty good' and 'ok' are all well and good, but with your next bullion you probably want a better arms trinket if you're playing arms :D

[slow saddle]

Ye im gettin ze brand

[frigid lava]

I like ctc and anvil too

[eternal vortex]

im getting leggo to 535 since i just got it this week

[gray herald]

I think I'll buy brand too

[frigid lava]

hows brand in M+

[eternal vortex]

as long as u can keep stacks its good

both fort and tyrannical week

[fickle lotus]

Does the "Tick" of our Mastery benefit from the CS debuff on our Target during its Duration ?

[cold garnet]

yes

[fickle lotus]

thx

[frigid lava]

I started tanking low M+s for fun...

thinking about getting the one hand :0

[halcyon breach]

Simply just natty loot a mythic one from Fyrakkus so you don't have to spend bullions

[frigid lava]

sadge

[fickle lotus]

Isnt Roar as a GCD himself worth casting it inside CS on ST ?
Like, it is the Innitdmg and the Dotapply itself which is benefitting from CS ? Speaking M+ ST.

[halcyon breach]

In ST it's typically better to use it before using CS/Warbreaker

But it really doesn't matter that much

As for the damage, all damage (except very few cases which don't apply to warrior or are worth thinking about) is dynamic

So if you use CS after using Roar, the dot from Roar will be buffed by CS

[fickle lotus]

I know its guided that way and it works like you said, speaking mathematicly the DMG / GCD (Innitdmg/roarbleedapply) of Roar is almost the same as the DMG of a unbuffed MS

[halcyon breach]

Roar does not immediately tick after being applied, but that is possibly correct I have not compared the two directly

But as I mentioned above, using it before or after does not matter really in ST

The majority of Roar's damage is the dot, not the initial hit, on ST

[hallow turtle]

For keys, should I be sending BS on cd or wait and sync with Ava?

[frigid lava]

It lines up with troar

Low M+s get painful ... fuckers never interrupt 😦

zero cc

[hallow turtle]

So the same every 3rd BS will align with Ava?

[frigid lava]

something like that

[hallow turtle]

Kk, ty

[frigid lava]

depends how u want to pad too. u might want to hold on to cd or just spend it.

[hallow turtle]

At 10s it’s kinda weird. I tend to hold 2nd roar because the packs will die before I get much value outta it. I’ve been doing the same with BS

[frigid lava]

yea if the targets are dying or just not enough of them... it's probably better to hold.

[halcyon breach]

If ever in doubt, just send on CD

More casts even if some are bad > fewer casts (generally speaking)

Not using BS on CD also defeats half the purpose of having AM

[fossil thistle]

General rule of thumb is send CD on CD otherwise it’s not a CD

[frigid lava]

The bait