arms

[red nacelle]

for m+

[boreal quartz]

yes

its ur sub

[quasi torrent]

you cabsolutely can

its just uhh

less cool cause cleave is good

[red nacelle]

I hate bladestorm but love whirlwind

so this is where I find myself

[reef glade]

yea i mean u dont have to run bladestorm if u dont want to technically

i think deswind was doing some fob cooking

u absolutely still take cleave

but prolly just... spam ww and just cleave every so often to keep up 4set buff

[red nacelle]

yeah when i get the new 4set def will grab cleave

[reef glade]

that is tuff tho cuz idk even with fob i would feel like overpower almost always highest priority

button too op

[latent moss]

blizzard bans you

you can play fob with cd for a guaranteed op reset

iirc u drop massacre

well tbh not much else to dop

drop*

however im not sure about the class tree

is no crushing force fob > massacre

or do u need crushing force

@sage badge

whats the fob tech

do you play improved slam

i suppose u don't cause u don't have enough points cause u need cleave

plus fob is about tact procs anyway

[sage badge]

FBV+ IP owns

[sage badge]

You don't really need slam talents for FoB, but it helps.

WW is mostly just to tactician reset

Speaking of FoB, Halls 13 damage breakdown as fob

This is what I run. Flex points are crushing force in general, and FBV+massacre in spec tree.

[latent moss]

@red nacelle here you go you got the fob mastermind

[latent moss]

so like end of s3 yeah

dn just too strong

[sage badge]

Yeah

[latent moss]

• 40 rage ww is a very easy way to dump rage so u dont need overwhelming rage

didnt think of that tbh

[sage badge]

Yeah

You don't need extra rage tbh, most of the time you're OP'ing/cleave

So you fill up pretty quick

[latent moss]

y

[boreal quartz]

that ring is so ungodly i love it

[latent moss]

wait didnt u kill fyrakk in sub 200 pulls

why are u taking 400 pulls on sark

wtf

idk where i saw it but u said u have a fuck ton of pulls on sark

[boreal quartz]

yes

diff guilds

with very diff pullcounts

[latent moss]

ah

[boreal quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1243608700766257172/image.png?ex=6652185b&is=6650c6db&hm=f68bb864b69116fc91824bf30078c46a0070aa2595bf38f6f8f70801d0274d2e&

[latent moss]

[boreal quartz]

its okay - i started mythic in that guild as a shitter and ended up getting ce the ssn after

shouldve gotten s1 too but a family member was actually fucking dying to i went to visit rather than to play wow

[latent moss]

as you should

real life n1 prio

[boreal quartz]

fuck raz anyways

[latent moss]

also true

[boreal quartz]

sark>fyrakk>raz

sark only if u dont demon it

[latent moss]

sark turbo fun

but heroic raz is the best heroic boss I've ever played

[boreal quartz]

just slambang for 6 mins straight

ye m raz i2

is so braindead and bad

[latent moss]

m raz bad

hc raz good

[boreal quartz]

yes

invert cringe too

terrorist magus deleting me in cds cba

@latent mossidk why but all of these bosses have 1 thing in common

rlly weak p2

raz is not overly complex imo - esp not on mage which i progged it on
sark - full afk for melee
fyrakk - 1 priv aura and padding on fury

still more than other bosses have total ig

[latent moss]

idk they cant do p2s

sylvanas p2

nvm

denathrius

[boreal quartz]

i forgor jailer

didnt play that raid much

was still trash then

[fossil thistle]

I wish I got to enjoy mythic more

Replacing 2/3 people every week or so suuucks ass.

[manic stirrup]

i never did mythic jailer but everyone i know thats done it says its the hardest raid boss ever and its not really close

sounds pretty lit

[boreal quartz]

theres RWF vods

but the race was horrid

cuz liquid had to leave

[manic stirrup]

yeah but watching a vod doesnt really show you how hard something is

atleast in my experience

[boreal quartz]

ye but if u see echo wipe for 2 days on 1 phase

u kinda know its not free

[manic stirrup]

oh i thought u meant watching kill

[boreal quartz]

nah the raw RWF vods

or at least the echo daily highlights

was good content

i think i caught the last 4 rwf kills live anways

[manic stirrup]

i dont know if i did or not

[opal folio]

A lot of jailers difficulty came from the tuning/numbers involved as opposed to mechanics imo

Everything hit like a truck

[manic stirrup]

i know i cought rygelon bc i woke up literally duirng th eworld first kill pull

[cinder lotus]

should i slam more vers gems in at this point? mop obvs

[boreal quartz]

prolly?

[cinder lotus]

or would i get more value with bleed dmg

[smoky kayak]

mastery is good because it's double budgeted, so even with DR you're getting more raw value than from other stats

[cinder lotus]

so probs worth putting more mast gems in and dropping crit since chance so high anyways

[smoky kayak]

don't think it really matters in remix since everything is so trivial anyway

[cinder lotus]

but minmax

😄

[gray steeple]

Imagine caring about remix stats lol

[smoky kayak]

when bosses dies in 12s, it's not about min/max, it's just proc rng

[fossil thistle]

?? All those stats and not 100% speed? Imagine being a wheelchair warrior 🥱

[cinder lotus]

speeds capped

[gaunt owl]

the DR is insane on tertiary stats actually

[rich flower]

[wild heart]

self buffs only

gawwwwd

[manic stirrup]

how are ppl this confidently wrong

[boreal quartz]

lol

[manic stirrup]

how do u go several seconds without hitting shit on arms

[boreal quartz]

redditor

[rare kite]

i saw this thread as well, holy moly "even current arms has this problem"

[manic stirrup]

arms is one of the higher apm specs lol

[rare kite]

love reddit takes

[steep osprey]

Reddit moment

[manic stirrup]

like its just proveably false and everyone agrees with them

its not even a nuanced position thats hard to prove

its jusr actually false

anyways thats my daily dose of reddit before work

[fossil thistle]

Easy. DH tank out runs you

[gaunt owl]

they dont pick tactician maybe ?

reddit brain rot at its finest

you need a real bad streak of rng to not have anything to push

[gray steeple]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/necklace-rings-and-trinket-unlocks-now-account-wide-in-remix-mists-of-pandaria-341856?webhook

https://www.wowhead.com/news/extreme-frog-farmers-will-have-cloak-nerfed-today-non-frog-farmers-will-get-40k-341860?webhook

[steep osprey]

[somber lance]

literal 40k free bronze for not playing the game

ty blizz

[fossil thistle]

I killed about 23 frogs

I’m probably slapped with a 7 day suspension :/

[gray steeple]

deserved

[somber lance]

can they also give me tusks for free

cause i cba

[hallow turtle]

Add a WoW as a fine too

[somber lance]

with this game mode

[steep osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/899763415290097664/1039866366695583804/B0363F1C-F28E-4C6A-92DD-C00BAB91F862.gif

[daring heron]

sorry i guess just keep hitting slam instead of op or something

[steep osprey]

Crit getting us nerfed again

[somber lance]

i also blame you for s2 tier set on fury

[steep osprey]

[daring heron]

ty s2 owns

[dire hinge]

how even

what buttons could they be pressing to rage starve themselves pre-execute

untalented SoS whirlwind spam?

[gaunt owl]

i mean he isnt wrong we arent "swimming"
we are drowning

[daring heron]

if you dont overpower you'll rage starve

[fresh spire]

man doesn't play with crit and haste and no wft

[daring heron]

prolly doesnt hit overpower much

[fresh spire]

he never pressed overpower only slams

[steep osprey]

I'm glad for big slams in TWW

[fresh spire]

hes 1.0 arms

[steep osprey]

don't @ me

[fresh spire]

@steep osprey

hi

[sage badge]

Thanks Critcake for ruining arms rage generation.

[steep osprey]

[sage badge]

[daring heron]

np

[fresh spire]

[steep osprey]

He made it better

[daring heron]

[dire hinge]

That'd have to be it right? Between MS/WW/Tclap cds they'd have to just be spamming Slam/Rend as filler

how cursed

[sage badge]

They should make all OP talents buff slam as well.

[steep osprey]

i heard slam is really good in alpha

[daring heron]

only way to get rage starved as arms is to play it wrong

[steep osprey]

Gonna actually slam

I'm worried about execute rage tho

[dire hinge]

make FoB fire off an OP

[steep osprey]

[gaunt owl]

you cant judge alpha for numbers or tuning yet

[fresh spire]

IM DOOMING ANYWYA

[daring heron]

i was saying in my vid that dropping frothing berserker in m+ build simmed as a 0.1% dps loss so thats why i dropped it for something else

[gaunt owl]

the dynamic can be changed and lets doom

[fresh spire]

its what we do

[hexed canopy]

Almost 1,3 mill mortal strike on last boss in AA 😄

[daring heron]

and it was a 0.1% loss cause arms is already swimming in rage

i guess he wont take the sim or my word for it

unforch

[gaunt owl]

that .1% is all the difference to time the key clearly

[steep osprey]

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/john-travolta-blood-flooding-what-confused-gif-14483859

Arms warriors not knowing what to do with all their rage

[slow saddle]

Press ip

Is basicly the answer

[fossil thistle]

? Ignore pressing pain ¿

[outer holly]

I have to say, IP not being an offensive has vastly reduced my usage of it, for the worse in almost all cases

[dire hinge]

i had to re-add it to my defensives area in my UI again, but yeah it was weird for a little bit

it's just so handy

[sharp wyvern]

what combination of buttons do you have to press to be rage starved?

[steep osprey]

Not pressing OP

[stable fiber]

taking ur weapon off might help with this issue

[dire hinge]

too much shield slam with sword and board

well no that generates doesnt it

maybe they should try sword and board

[mellow seal]

get parried then cry for 3 seconds

[opal folio]

Sanguine

[somber lance]

what's your IP bind

[halcyon breach]

4 MS' in a row because of EB

[ivory quartz]

real

[stable fiber]

mfkers execute 9 times in a row, same dude says "we are not swimming in rage"

[opal folio]

[stable fiber]

[fresh tide]

That's how execute phase should be

Slam the big red button as hard as you can

[gaunt owl]

yeah boring 1 button spam

kill me plz

[steep osprey]

Real

[mellow seal]

im stealing that emote

[opal folio]

Ngl, I liked the one from last season

Mash execute, fill with overpower, release a giga mortal strike

[stable fiber]

pre patch arms warrior

god what a cute icon

[opal folio]

Piercing Challenge

[dire hinge]

the real cute icon

[boreal quartz]

i always thought its a bottle

[dire hinge]

cursed dog inverse

[ivory quartz]

ignoring the pain is just imagining a dog

[opal folio]

[thick kelp]

enjoyerX soon

[steep osprey]

Im the same level

Uldum took so long

[thick kelp]

53 -> 54 was 4mil xp

54 -> 55 is 9.5mil

and quest density is

not nice

[steep osprey]

Wait what

You mean 8?

[thick kelp]

9.1

mb

[olive nest]

thats a palm holding some "dust"

[steep osprey]

Are you twilight

[thick kelp]

u mean my server?

[steep osprey]

Nah the zone

Twilight highlands

[thick kelp]

ah

im in uldum

questing for the rep

[steep osprey]

Nice

[thick kelp]

so i can get prebis neck

[steep osprey]

I finished there

[thick kelp]

[steep osprey]

So I guess it’s equip tabard and spam dungeons time

Cata bs > df Bs

[thick kelp]

[lilac vapor]

Hey guys, i need a bit help, i got 1 bullion purchase free and dont know what to buy 😄 any tips? focusing mostly on m+ and am thinking trinket - Got these 2

[daring heron]

[olive nest]

[fossil thistle]

:pedro_but_im_too_broke_for_nitro:

[thick kelp]

[outer holly]

Imagine paying a sub in order to post a whirlwinding pepe

[thick kelp]

[hallow turtle]

: Pedro:

[fossil thistle]

[hallow turtle]

[fossil thistle]

[signal trench]

In remix outside leveling, dStance or bStance?

[timber lynx]

Dance stance

we dancing

Bstance

[outer holly]

a b boy

standing in my b boy stance

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-oum-dance-ddr-game-groovy-gif-5117621

[fossil thistle]

If this ain’t you…

[tough steppe]

what in the fuck

[fossil thistle]

?

Is it double negative?

[tough steppe]

i'm confused too

[fossil thistle]

There’s a gif for this I know it

https://tenor.com/view/but-did-you-die-ken-jeong-gif-4930689

[tough steppe]

No

Somehow i kept taking this damage and stayed alive

[fossil thistle]

[tough steppe]

apparently it's related to spirit link being turbo bugged

[fossil thistle]

Interesting

Does spirit link still pick up as damage dealt?

[tough steppe]

i have zero idea, but that was really fun to see

[boreal quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1224376621960663092/1242098710222082079/caption.gif

[teal finch]

In a ST raid scenario, should I ever hold avatar for cs, or is there no need because typically if cs is down we would have test of might buff?

[strange perch]

@hazy flower @boreal quartz what is better unhinged or hurricane do you think unhinged is good cpuld it be good with the tierset

[hazy flower]

unhinged because you're unhinged

[halcyon breach]

There's no difference between CS and ToM really

Just use Avatar on CD if there's no other reason to hold it

[strange perch]

Thanks bud!

[boreal quartz]

@strange perchyu shuld ask banaazi

shes very smart!

[teal finch]

What could be a reason to hold it? If you know an intermission is coming up and you won’t get to hit?

[strange perch]

Who is banazi

[boreal quartz]

fyrakk about to phase

[halcyon breach]

Something like that

[strange perch]

@halcyon breach ?

[boreal quartz]

yes

[hazy flower]

bananza

[boreal quartz]

ya banzia

[hazy flower]

jugg stacks

[halcyon breach]

If the boss is about to phase, adds are about to come up and you want to pad (or they have to die, not super relevant rn)

Or if you'll only have 1 more use of Avatar, then you hold it till Execute

[strange perch]

@halcyon breach @hazy flower @boreal quartz what is better unhinged or hurricane do you think unhinged is good cpuld it be good with the tierset

[hazy flower]

#arms message

I believe

that question has been answer

warlordsofdraenor

[strange perch]

Oooooh

[halcyon breach]

For example a 2:30 fight, which is a lot of HC fights now, you'd want to hold your 2nd Avatar use for whenever Execute starts

[strange perch]

Thank you myrtuuuuuuuuu

I didnt see!

🤦‍♂️

[boreal quartz]

@halcyon breachi am eternally sorry for causing this

[teal finch]

For holding for execute, would you pop it only if you have max jugg stacks or just pop it right on phase( I guess it depends on if you can get full 20s usage)

[hazy flower]

myrtuuuuuuuuuuu
myrtuuuuuuuuu

missing 2 u's

[boreal quartz]

myruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

canu log of magsu

[hazy flower]

whatuneed

from my mage

fire otp

[boreal quartz]

doiuwüqd9

cease

[hazy flower]

I dont speak german

[boreal quartz]

leave the discord vile mage

[halcyon breach]

I just pop it as Exe starts, have not checked what the diff is between holding for max Jugg stacks or not

[hazy flower]

never

[teal finch]

Thanks a lot banezi!

[strange perch]

If i had to choose between arms warriimor slayer specialization and fury warrior mountain thane specilization i would choose fury warrior because then my thunder clap would deal a lot of damage

[outer holly]

I do prefer the aesthetics of throwing lightning bolts everywhere

[strange perch]

@crystal spruce do you fw collossus or nah i fw it heavy fr

[crystal spruce]

its smaller than the founding titan and its whole thing was that it was big so i think its kinda lame

[strange perch]

Pfff

[crystal spruce]

well it also had the steam shit coming out of it i guess but

na still kinda lame

[strange perch]

Pfffff

I meant the hero talent!

You numbnut!

[crystal spruce]

those arent in mop sorry

[strange perch]

That is true

Have fun in mop

[rose matrix]

Is quickstrike any good in mop remix? I have been using it for the rage boost during execute

Just wondering if it is acutally worth it or if it just feels nice to have

[dire hinge]

it feels nice for the rage influx, but I don't see it listed on our bis gems on wowhead:
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/remix/bis-gear-best-gems

[rose matrix]

I replaced Fervor and Brittle with Quickstrike and Storm Overload

Both Fervor and Brittle feel like they aren't that great but I don't know

[outer holly]

All I know is I follow the S tier listings and do top damage

Except in aoe, when people slot victory fire its ridiculous

[rose matrix]

I took out storm overload. It was doing damage when I was out in the world but it does way less in raid

Brittle still feels kinda meh

[pastel moss]

bsl or shadowflame for second craft?

[latent moss]

bsl

[obsidian topaz]

what are you guys taking in AA ? haste?

[dry frost]

Guess the key

[frigid lava]

I take haste

[frigid lava]

many targets.. probably aa or bh

[dry frost]

Yeah it was a really big pull AA

All of the tree area as usual, From bird to Vex was 3 pulls

and from tree to dragosa was 1 pull lol

huge roar value

the only "small packs" were the miniboss, the birds pre craw, and the adds after vex

Is there a way to pull down the birst before craw early?

so you can do as 1 pack?

[latent moss]

how is dreadnaught so low

busted talent

[dire hinge]

Vers usually, helps you stay alive and still adds dps

[latent moss]

haste is most damage

vers good

[dry frost]

I take vers above 12s usually

[rancid knot]

any tips on doing the glowspore grip quest solo? i tried defensive stance and spell reflection and still died

without the salve

my character doesnt have garrison

[harsh crow]

Bribe a healer

[rancid knot]

nvm i just joined a follower dujngeon haha

but damn that sucks that i dont have garrison on this char i gotta do the enchantment one without it

[steady plover]

you think everyone is raised in a gang like you

[rancid knot]

oh i realized it only takes like 2 minutes to get a garrison

[dense nimbus]

The diff in large scale is not very big but for parsing if you are lucky with crits it will make a difference if you get the full 20S duration. That is ofc if you do not sacrifice legendary/trinkets uses for it.

Really dependant on fight duration

[manic egret]

in terms of m+, is irideus much worse than puzzle box? cause those str boosts roar so much I cant understand why ppl prefer box

[paper gulch]

Because box you have more mastery for longer. Fragment goes down.

[slow saddle]

I guess if u 2 x bladestorm

And roar

[somber lance]

2x bladestorm is dog tho

so its taking a suboptimal build to make better use of a suboptimal trinket

aint the way

[hidden anvil]

Hello everyone, have a question, if I don’t have leggo, is it suitable to craft shadow flame boots for “seal of diruna chosen”

[slow saddle]

Oh i 100% agree

[reef glade]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1oHZLY3NcQ5gWT33hJ5oBc

ascension next week when i can upgrade everything else

[dense nimbus]

Well if you dont have any other sort of fire damage yes but overall without lego its not worth it to ruin the overall stats that you have(if ofcourse youre in a good position)

The damage of that ring is a good extra with lego but without it dont count much on it

[hidden anvil]

Got it, thanks

[dense nimbus]

Yw

[somber lance]

Are u getting ring next week?

[reef glade]

proly

damn anvil is better than oce? 😭

was wondering why i kept seeing gajeel run that shit in all those logs

what a freak

[robust ridge]

If there's one thing you know is true, @ocean pond knows everything

[dense nimbus]

Well if you already have the stats you dont need more stats aye?🤣

[reef glade]

real

[stuck prairie]

same here

better than puzzle

on dungeonslice

[dense nimbus]

Although fight duration for raids and how the tank pulls in dungeon is a factor

For anvil

Kinda you cant just sim through this one

[dense nimbus]

Dam no lego?

[reef glade]

well my thing was compared to already having signet brand

it says better to run signet/anvil over signet/oce

oce is still technically third best trinket i guess in this scenario but regardless most fights dont last long enough to see big gains from csb/anvil

[dense nimbus]

Well anvil overall can be better than brand in 5 min sims

[reef glade]

yea that i dont think i could compare without doing it manually in top gear which i dont care to do much

but ye

both are good basically

[dense nimbus]

But brand has some shit rngs

[slow saddle]

Or insane

[reef glade]

yea

flip a coin

get 15 stacks in 90 seconds or 200 seconds

[dense nimbus]

You can litterly get 15 stacks in 2 min and destroy everything

Or 5 min 🤣

[slow saddle]

🤣

Factd

[reef glade]

regardless glad to see broodkeeper ring not like, a detriment

[slow saddle]

Imma buy it next week

[reef glade]

altho it would feel bad losing like a 6th of my haste

cant knock that fat shield

[slow saddle]

Helps with.bsl uptime

[dense nimbus]

Anvil is more reliable for all 5 min ish bosses

[slow saddle]

Which is dmg increase

[dense nimbus]

But i guess for last bosses brand does more

[slow saddle]

Which bosses are 5 min?

That matter

Asking coz i havent checked🤣

[dense nimbus]

Hc none 🤣

Just rasz and fyrakk are long

[slow saddle]

Tindy?

Smoldy

Brood?

[dense nimbus]

And tindral

No people are zerging smol

[reef glade]

yea smold is pretty short

[dense nimbus]

Stat burst trinkets work better

[boreal quartz]

absolutely not

[reef glade]

max is like 7 minutes i think but if ur taking that long theres other problems

tindral i guess can also be short

at this point

[boreal quartz]

tindral is like 40% uptime 60% flying xdd

[reef glade]

xdd

[boreal quartz]

so its rlly shit

[slow saddle]

Its decent for anvil

[dense nimbus]

Tindral has down time

[slow saddle]

Then

[boreal quartz]

nah

[slow saddle]

?

[boreal quartz]

anvil needs to stack AND THEN ALSO PROC

[dense nimbus]

Brand needs activity

[slow saddle]

Well puzzle keeps puzzeling

[boreal quartz]

and if ur midair u cannot use it nor can u ms

puzzle is just good

[dense nimbus]

Basically anvil is mostly on cd mid air

And using anvil on roots for some extra damage aint bad

[boreal quartz]

tindral has to be an oce box boss idk man

[dense nimbus]

Still thats all if you want boss damage

[boreal quartz]

bossdam on a padboss 😔

[dense nimbus]

If you want parses anvil wont work

[boreal quartz]

anvil on sark tho

6:30 fight and lotta msing

[dense nimbus]

Yea good choice

[boreal quartz]

i got a funny fury log with anvil on the boss

515 anvil

[dense nimbus]

I prefer whispering personally over oce

[boreal quartz]

then again if i had spent dinars properly rather than going for funny ring combo i wouldnt use anvil

[stuck prairie]

no unfortunately? really cba farming it and paying

[slow saddle]

Well our tanks dont icon😅

[boreal quartz]

OCE is ait

prolly buying it or cloak next

[dense nimbus]

It is but i prefer whispring 😂

Cloak is ascam

[boreal quartz]

it is

but bag ilvl

[dense nimbus]

Sim is wrong on it

Ilvl bah

[boreal quartz]

i love simbait

[dense nimbus]

Forced 1 heal and tank to equip it 🤣

[slow saddle]

Imma buy shield ring. I miss the defensive ness

[slow saddle]

Our tanks went no

Both usinh 2 x dmg trinkets fpr memes

[boreal quartz]

i bought it over 7k oce for topgear

funny hps

[dense nimbus]

Im the RL he cant do shit

[boreal quartz]

doesnt stop me from doin dam

[slow saddle]

I suggested all bought it. To help our shoddy healers

I mean fr if ppl were willing tp dp that, it would be a lpt of free heals

[boreal quartz]

idk its fated why do i care ill buy funny bsl padring

[stuck cargo]

If anyone want a hidden Amrs appearance, Secrets of the Axes is up today (25.5.2024) in EU-Wildhammer

[strange perch]

which 2 emblishments we need? is it double focus mastery over 90% HP?

[boreal quartz]

double bsl
Bsl vers wrist

thats the options really

[eternal vortex]

i would say sim for urself but i see more ppl run 2xBSL

and the uptime in m+ isnt too terrible

my avg uptime is between 60~70%

or u can just yell at a healer to pocket heal u

so that u have higher uptime

🙂

[slow saddle]

And use ip

• sr

[tranquil anvil]

is oce bait to buy or is it good even solo wearing?

[eternal vortex]

IF its solo, maybe pips

but generally oce>icon

[tranquil anvil]

ok thanks,and still confused why bsl cause mastery is the worst stat isnt?

[eternal vortex]

it increases the dmg we deal when enemy has deep wounds

and we apply deep wounds pretty much all the time

and as long as maintain 90% hp before ur burst

the dmg will deliver

[tranquil anvil]

mhm,just starting out with arms lol

[eternal vortex]

good spec

both arms and fury

[tranquil anvil]

but somehow more fun than fury

[eternal vortex]

i think later in the s4, more ppl will have icon or oce, so try to have them at least

oce buff is huge

[tranquil anvil]

oce instant bought cause image getting lego

as a starter

[eternal vortex]

oh yeah GL with that

all raids will be awakened also in 2 weeks

[tranquil anvil]

i skip it tbf thats why i dropped evoker lol

just looking for a melee as an alt for my warlock

and arms makes a good contender

[sacred zodiac]

surely you'd buy ashkandur first if you dont have legendary

[eternal vortex]

yeah also if u decide to play fury, you still need ashkandur anyway, so might be a good idea to purchase ash

[tranquil anvil]

idk fury was cool in shadowlands but dont like it in dragonflight

[somber lance]

there's no way for me to put weights on torc right?

always 50/50?

[tranquil anvil]

always 50/50

oh and btw when is the breakpoints for crit and haste?

in %

[somber lance]

there's no breakpoints

you never try to achieve a certain % of any stat

you just sim and pick the best options available to you

[eternal vortex]

just get the items that the robot tells u

dont worry about stats i would say

[tranquil anvil]

alr

[somber lance]

is it crazy i have to use haste mastery food

just what sim tells me

[raven nymph]

Not crazy no

[eternal vortex]

thats norm

cuz we get more benefit from sec stats

[bold jolt]

Do you guys take shockwave over roar at higher keys like 15+?

[eternal vortex]

i dont

i take Intimidating shout and stormbolt

[slow saddle]

Depends on comp as well

But in gen no

[somber lance]

i just realized we can SR the spear on nelth second boss

thats so good

[slow saddle]

Yeye😄

[stuck prairie]

guys am i cooked for playing this talent tree for m+ ?

[reef glade]

uh i mean mostly fine

tho you'd want to drop 1 bb for storm of swords

right next to massacre

that is the generic bladestorm m+ build tho

potentially 1 bb is more overall but like the ww being stronger and spending more rage and shit should def be better on st and lowish target counts

[daring heron]

storm of swords is massive on both aoe and st

[stuck prairie]

the main idea i had is dropping the survivability and putting it into more dmg & execs being bigger on bosses since tyrra

and i'm mostly only doing +10 +12 ish keys so its not too dangerous

[reef glade]

what example of that were you doing here

cuz there are very few situations where you can "drop survivability for dmg"

cuz most survivability is locked in

oh wait why u missing frothing berserker

should def have that

and 5% leech way more valuable than second wind

[stuck prairie]

i feel like we are swimming in rage

[reef glade]

i mean kinda but in execute you will notice running out of it sometimes

no sidearm either

quoi

[stuck prairie]

yeah i agree on that

[reef glade]

ok class tree talents look a lil sus, spec tree was fine tho aside from that 1 change

but it should kinda look like this most of the time, honed reflexes is not that good i dont think

and like maybe u can drop one of the cc's of either intim/stormbolt for seismic cuz maybe seismic slightly better on arms but even still i dont think its that strong

[stuck prairie]

yeah i wil def try that, altho i feel like i'm trolling on cc, especially this week with casters in sanguino's

[reef glade]

yea i mean in general u just kinda have to pay attention to what mobs are casting what, and if its dangerous enough that it must be stunned or something despite sanguine

[stuck prairie]

i'll try -1 Overwhelming rage - 1 intim Shout and +1 Sidearm +1 frothing

[reef glade]

there are prolly more that I cant think of but one example coming to mind is expluses from the little floating orbs in HOI

kickable sure but if no one is gonna handle it and u have to stun to stop it you just gotta do what u gotta do

the algethar staff mystic blast too same thing

cant be kicked

[stuck prairie]

how about dropping Bloodletting and adding storm of swords ?

[reef glade]

bloodletting is waaay stronger than bloodborne

pretty sure at least

it adds what like 6 seconds to your roar?

on top of some other shit?

jus drop da 1 bb its not that big of a deal

:3

[stuck prairie]

ight letsgo

[tiny sable]

Hello lads, Ive checked pins and Im still not sure, so Ill ask you for your personal opinion, what 2nd Trinket should get I get if im running fury/arms only in pugs in the ~10 range? i got puzzlebox and fragment atm, debating betwenn nelths call, dreadplates and augury.

[reef glade]

ok

never say dreadplates ever again

thats a tank trink and i think a pretty bad one

but assuming youre talking about m+ yeah augury would be pretty good

[tiny sable]

ive seen talk about it in the fury channel and ive seen some people pump with it

[reef glade]

u sure u dont mean anvil?

[tiny sable]

no, dreadplates

[reef glade]

anvil is useable and good for both I think

dreadplates is just... not

i mean unless theres some cook i dont know of

but it was garbanzo beans in s2

[tiny sable]

does big dam in s4

afaik

[reef glade]

well i mean u can sim with it and maybe it'd be accurate as to it's value but i still think an augury would just be better

[cinder ocean]

It’s a lot stronger after the rework

[zenith warren]

droptimized shows me that my 522 arcane loop is better than diurna's

[reef glade]

ya proly arcane loop has a lot of haste

or by diurna's do u mean eranog ring

fire damage proc

dumb ass naming scheme of these items..

[zenith warren]

I have erranog but the 535 one is simming less

[boreal quartz]

The idea is u buy ring and then fix ur stats around it

And then u just aquire assault legs or smth

[reef glade]

yeah i mean that is a tuff tradeoff between heavy mastery and dropping a lot of haste

my ring is similar

u just kinda gotta acquire more haste from other places

1 rly strong option is catalyzing boots

[boreal quartz]

Long term it's bis so I just got it now

[reef glade]

to a very high haste boots

its like 600 haste to 200 vers

[boreal quartz]

Or smoldero

[reef glade]

yea or u get those

[boreal quartz]

There's szkarn and assault belt

[reef glade]

haste aligned OCE also helps

[zenith warren]

i have haste oce already

but even if I fix stats it's probably still less than getting another mythic track trinket

[reef glade]

yea i mean all depends if its a new myth trink that u dont have thats one of the bis yea u prolly take that

[frigid lava]

Those vault rings are sick... diurna's chosen adds 2~3% dmg and the shield proc is great with elggo

[reef glade]

but if its just like an upgrade from heroic > myth something u already have its kinda whatever

like it lined up for me nicely that 535 ring is around 700 more dps than heroic > myth oce upgrade

but even if that isnt the case so long as u dont lose like thousands of dps for it the added survivability does seem rly strong

[frigid lava]

I think it shields does about 30~50% more than ignore pain usually.

that's a lot

[zenith warren]

myth track haste legs would have been great to make up for it

just hard to get that haste back with my current gear, my off parts are pretty scuffed in terms of secondary stats

[drifting widget]

Quick question: in AOE, do I just send cleave resets when they happen or wait for 2 stacks of overpower buff to send?

[olive nest]

cleave on cd is slightly more aoe

cleave at 2 stacks is slightly more prio damage since you OP more often

iirc deswind figured out for us that its 1% more ST to sent at 2 stacks and 3-4% more aoe to send on cd regardless of stacks

[drifting widget]

Thx

[olive nest]

ofc, goodluck!

[swift crown]

Yes and it was changed going into S4

That's like saying Tome is bad because it used to be dogshit in S1 but it's functionally different now

It actually sends ALL the beams you didn't trigger by taking damage at expiration now

It does pretty big dam in AoE

[reef glade]

i mean... unless im buggin that functionality changes almost nothing for tanks no?

considering you had 15 seconds to break 5 plates with a 2 sec buffer between them, if you were tanking a whole pack of mobs it mustve been guaranteed that all the plates popped anyway

and yet it was still bad in s2 for tanks? i mean i know beacon got nerfed but I dont think a random caveat that all stacks are guaranteed to pop is a game changer

it'd make it useable on dps at least but functionally changed nothing for tanks no? and tanks in s2 pmuch always wouldve rather taken another dps trink anyway

only thing maybe is that by wording alone the pillar of flame dmg looks to be uncapped/unsplit so maybe thats like, ultimate giga pad trinket in an algethar or something akin to storm eaters boon but cant imagine its like actually a top contender in most content

[sage badge]

Reverse. It's 1% aoe loss to send at 2 stacks, but you gain 4%~ on prio/ST.

[olive nest]

Ahh, yes thanks for the correction

[sage badge]

[fossil thistle]

💁🏻‍♂️ I send at 1 stack if I don’t want to press slam and nothing is coming off CD

[frigid lava]

Maybe im getting old.... keys are so stressful 😦

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-baymax-hiro-comfort-gif-14477192

That they are

[agile igloo]

There is too much shit on the ground. The ground effects/swirls, I feel like I’m trippin on acid 🤣

[frigid lava]

I need like mental exercise before even starting one.

Yea... like 30 mins of total focus. One mistake, u die and ppl get pissed

[old urchin]

I feel that

[frigid lava]

I have been pretty good not messing up but man... stressful

[old urchin]

Yeah in the higher stuff where everything is a one shot you have to be on high alert the whole time and for me personally it’s tough

[frigid lava]

I just timed +12 Nokhud like 10 mins ago.

No death until the last boss

and shadow priest died because healer made a mistake.

he got pissed.

what's wrong with ppl 😦

[old urchin]

Peeps be toxic.

Have had keys bricked because one person makes a mistake and someone dips. Usually the healer it seems.

[frigid lava]

That run felt like a miracle. No death until the last boss in NO

Plus we were freaking zugging hard.

[old urchin]

Always a good feeling. I did a NO 11 yesterday same thing. The tank was pulling like a maniac and it was great.

[frigid lava]

It was crazy man... the twin boss trashes are cancer.. but the DH tank pulled them like no issue

I didn't even bother popping ignore pain because i was too busy spending rage on aoe

yet i felt safe.

[somber lance]

keys make me feel alive

[sacred zodiac]

how about you respond to boose? rude

[dense nimbus]

AOE numbers or the key?

[somber lance]

dodging swirlies while smashing keyboard

[chilly mulch]

My favorite gaming moments in wow are blasting with a good tank like that

On the opposite end, yesterday we somehow wiped 4 times on tree in +8 AA

[fossil thistle]

Did they get left and right confused?

[chilly mulch]

No we were all confused af at the end. No one knew for sure how we wiped. We just called it and maybe healer was sus

First pull, hunter and priests somehow died instantly on add spawn.

Second pull hunter died and I died in the end. Healer would not brez so tank died to no cleanse

[fossil thistle]

Trying to pump but instead they got le pumped

That’s a healer sus for sure

[chilly mulch]

YES dawg well said basically exactly what happened

And third pull fourth pull was just like someone died to whatever and we done even know cuz we not timing this anymore

[fossil thistle]

Man you can time keys with 20 deaths

[chilly mulch]

With 20 death on tree? That might be tense

[fossil thistle]

Happened in an azure vault, boomkin kept dying I think we had 27 deaths total? Two wipes on trash. still had a minute left (was a 10 or 11)

[chilly mulch]

Oh yeah 3rd pull healer doesn’t brez so the adds stacked up due to no dps being alive and we got wiped

[chilly mulch]

Sounds like a AV alright

[fossil thistle]

Mmm raider Io doesn’t show deaths I guess. Was a 12 and we timed it with 1:47 left lol

I think the boomkin did 270k overall? Ret and I were around 450-500

28 deaths 💀 I did die 5-6 times but 3 of those were wipes by the looks of it

[astral yarrow]

The annoying part of that is that you could run the same dungeon 2 levels higher and still have the dps to time it

[frigid lava]

28 deaths and timing +12 is savage

I probably don't have that kind of dps lol

[fossil thistle]

Honestly yea, it’s like a hard lock running 10s.
You can’t get people good enough to complete them half the time then nobody wants to run the 9.

Or you time it, try and run the 11/12 and someone rage quits because they aren’t running the MDI strats

[frigid lava]

yea u start seeing the god complex ppl above 10

[fossil thistle]

Meanwhile BTM people still pushed 3800 🥹

They just want easy mode and why make it more difficult if you can just say “nah”

[frigid lava]

nah they want the MDI shit

pull everything with pug

then wipe , quit

[fossil thistle]

Lmao yet

They’re the first to stand in swirls and go kaplut

[frigid lava]

one mistake = quit

[fossil thistle]

Heck if you inspect or target them for too long they’ll leave 😤

[frigid lava]

lol

[blazing bloom]

what do you guys spen your rage? also am i supposed to spamms and cleave?

[frigid lava]

range on jomama

go knock on some dummies.

[gray steeple]

I usually spend most of my rage on the Vault

[frigid lava]

I /pray before loot

[fossil thistle]

Mortal strike, overpower, execute, whirlwind, cleave are all good rage spenders

[frigid lava]

I don't think he knows any basis of arms warrior skill... probably better to spar some dummies before asking more specific questions

[blazing bloom]

ok because im getting more than what im spending

[frigid lava]

are u using "ignore pain"

[blazing bloom]

for what

for spending rage yes

[fossil thistle]

If you’re generating more then you’re spending, I need your rage generation

imagines being rage capped

[halcyon breach]

yeah I love spending rage on overpower

my favourite rage spender in fact

[fossil thistle]

IVE BEEN PLAYING CATACLYSM FOR THE LAST WEEK LEAVE ME ALONE

[blazing bloom]

i dont have overpower

[fossil thistle]

What

[blazing bloom]

nvm

lol

[fossil thistle]

😂

I was about to say

[frigid lava]

troll

[blazing bloom]

i got conf with warbreaker

[fossil thistle]

When do you find yourself rage capping often?

[blazing bloom]

with multiple mobs

im ok , with st is the problem

[fossil thistle]

Are you using Tclap instead of rend for ST?

[hallow turtle]

I don’t have rage issues in st until execute phase

[gray steeple]

Do you have a warrior outside of remix? What level?

[fossil thistle]

It resets overpower charges

[blazing bloom]

i dont have rend in bars since rend is applied with tc

[fossil thistle]

I just forgot overpower was free cast since it has a cost in cata

[hallow turtle]

Are you using WW on cd?

[fossil thistle]

Okay, would have to see a log to see rage capping vs spent

[halcyon breach]

Just gonna say, rage capping is an issue that Arms has had for the entire expansion basically

[frigid lava]

overpower used to be a sacred skill in pvp.... long time ago

[halcyon breach]

It's not something you can really solve, and the only moment you have rage management is during Execute

[blazing bloom]

in st no

and no logs since im just got to 70

[hallow turtle]

Try to use WW on cd in st, it doesn’t do much dmg, but the rage spent will cdr CS

[frigid lava]

I can tell.... that's why i said go knock on dummies and read up on your talent and skill description. Maybe have better understanding in your abilities.

or start reading wowhead.com

it's not perfect but somewhere to start

[blazing bloom]

im reading iv

[frigid lava]

whats iv

icy vein?

[hallow turtle]

Yes

I think wowhead is better personally

[frigid lava]

I haven't visited there for a while... but it's a good reference too i think

Just play around for a bit... arrange your skills and understand what the skills do.

go spar some dummies before asking "how do I breathe"

[fossil thistle]

Press F to breathe

Not that hard…

[hallow turtle]

Also, remember that ST can pool up on rage at times. But as long as you are MSing on cd, with WW on cd you should be ok. Execute is where I start to have to actually think about my rage

[blazing bloom]

yeah i was not using whirwind

as much

and using cleave too much

[fossil thistle]

If you haven’t been pressing WW that’s probably why, it’ll help your test of might too (unless you’re running in for the kill)
Don’t cleave ST

[hallow turtle]

If you’re in a key, ignore cleave unless there are 4 or more targets.

[blazing bloom]

ok better lol

[astral yarrow]

Idk if “meme season” enhances that view

[frigid lava]

Like someone said before it's a victory lap season.

I guess

Most people will be near maxed out on gears on tuesday

almost no more crest spent a week after.

[swift crown]

where

[boreal quartz]

Or ur like me and only aquire gear and crests by raiding

And you play 4h a week

[frigid lava]

then u have more to enjoy...

ppl with no life like me are wondering.... oh wtf

[swift crown]

The Theun challenge

[frigid lava]

k... av+12 time :0

[fossil thistle]

The secret is to die 28 times 😉

[hallow turtle]

I thought you were suppose to die 6 or 9 times or something

[fossil thistle]

He has to carry the deaths himself

😤

[boreal quartz]

I dont have the time to play that much (i have played remix for 3h every day since release)

[fossil thistle]

I catch up on my days off (10hr binge sessions)

[boreal quartz]

Also i maybe dont have any score on fort

Cuz i did ksm on tyra week 1 into log off

[boreal quartz]

Bro i was on vacation since last Friday at home turbo vibing

But i still wont play keys

Cba

[fossil thistle]

Oh for sure I have 0 interest in doing keys

Doing 1 Sunday to gamble a mythic vault then back to not playing or doing other shit

I enjoyed previous weeks because I didn’t play S1/2 really, so I never experienced the dungeons

[boreal quartz]

I mean if ur doing 9 mythic bosses a week

Ur gearing is done soon

[north meteor]

real

[hallow turtle]

I’ve done 2-4 a week and I’m only missing 3 mythic track items

Crests are a different story though

[frigid lava]

1st boss down 1 death

[boreal quartz]

Privledged enough to evade frontalnyoom +6 keystone

[north meteor]

nono

this is a different ordeal

[frigid lava]

i died casting leggo

2nd boss down

[boreal quartz]

Jesus Christus

Smite down ketchuplordw

[frigid lava]

just realized it's +13 not +12

one death cleared :0

[dire hinge]

Whirlwind >Thunder Clap

[strange perch]

@boreal quartz do you think with new tierset i should play unhinged or keep playing hurricane?

i am unsure unhinged seems cool

[boreal quartz]

test it in 10.000 m+ dungeons

[strange perch]

erm i don't think doing that many dungeons is healthy nor possible!

[boreal quartz]

do it!

[strange perch]

NO I WON'T

FUCK YOU

i will play unhinged and win

i will win just watch me

[gray steeple]

Take your meds

[strange perch]

no i don't think i will

[boreal quartz]

@strange perchtake ur meds

[manic stirrup]

[strange perch]

who character is that

[boreal quartz]

YOURS!!!

TAKE YOUR MEDS

[strange perch]

NEVER

NEVER

[rare kite]

It's definetely possible. Just spam +2s all day every day

[strange perch]

i liked in doctor house when he said huh

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

[obsidian topaz]

massacre or 2x Bloodborne in M+?

[boreal quartz]

mass is more st

i like doing st

[strange perch]

when will bloodborne come to pc?

[rare kite]

Mass makes ep feel better and is more st, bloodborne more overall

[rare kite]

[obsidian topaz]

I do mass for HoI always

but I usually swap out massacre on fort weeks

[boreal quartz]

naaahhh

1 talent build always yallah

[blazing bloom]

ty btw, now feels much better

[fossil thistle]

Cheers!

Another tip though is to position yourself for dreadnaughts during AoE, its a line not a cone so typically you want to align as many as you can

[elfin kindle]

i heard crit wants to catalyze sark cloak

whats the reason, do u get a 535 cloak out of it?

or what

[fossil thistle]

Yea I think you do

Someone in my guild was talking about it too

[blazing bloom]

sweet just got a 502 weapon from a box

[fossil thistle]

Probably a huge upgrade for you lol, I’d upgrade it, or run LFR when you can and spend some bullions on asscandy

[frigid lava]

if u are below 10 heroic fyrakk kills... yea buy the sword

[fossil thistle]

I think he just hit 70

[frigid lava]

yea 100%

[fossil thistle]

Oh I gotta run LFR and get my bullions on alts for weapon transmog collections

[ivory harbor]

It’s just 10 dungeons sir, 10.000 = 10. He used a dot instead of a comma which would denote 10,000 (10 thousand)

[frigid lava]

haven't logged on my ret since the last season.

[fossil thistle]

I wish we could but tier ensembles for 6 billions 🤡

[frigid lava]

probably wrecks my warrior if kept playing

[fossil thistle]

I don’t think you can physically run 10,000 M+ dungeons from now until the end of the season even if you played 24/7

[frigid lava]

I find it hard to focus on more than 1 character...

doesn't matter the time i have

[fossil thistle]

You ever just stop your rotation and wonder what you’re doing then end up dead and say “finally I can go grab a snack”

Adhd be like

[frigid lava]

I created a warrior 2004.... and main since then

[fossil thistle]

Samee December 26th 2004

Got that shit Boxing Day with my Christmas money and went to make a night elf warrior because my older brother was a Druid

[frigid lava]

I started playing wow because it was cheaper than going out for drinks.

[fossil thistle]

😎 I was 11

Which hurts thinking I’ve been playing wow for like 2/3 of my life

[frigid lava]

Same..

when your playtime is in.... like years

"/played"

[small juniper]

If I don't use Test of Might (for example, using a WoWHead M+ build on a boss), how should I use Bladestorm on a single target?

[frigid lava]

BS is used with hurricane... that's a dmg booster.

[hazy flower]

pop bs on cd +/- as in dont hold it too long

line it with warbreaker

warbreaker after bs

[frigid lava]

Its CD aligns with Troar so... just use with it.

[small juniper]

So the Hurricane buff after BS will line with Warbreaker, right?

[hazy flower]

well the hurricane lasts 5 sec

but ye p much

[frigid lava]

like... avatar(20%)+CSorWB(30%)+BSwithHurricane(30%) then dump leggo on that.... hits hard

add the +8% crit/dmg from tier

[small juniper]

Got it, thanks.
I have another stupidly-looking question =-) Sometimes in outdoors I notice that I'm getting Rend on an enemy after the first ability, Mortal Strike. I thought it was because of the Bloodletting talent, but it should place Rend only after the target is below 35% health - and the target is not =-)

[inner wasp]

so wait

are the earthen titan magic or are they azeroth world juice magic

how do u animate a rock

[silk spade]

leggo doesn't work with cds fyi

[small juniper]

So what puts the Rend on the target in this case? I don't use Rend itself, don't use Thunder Clap, only MS

[frigid lava]

oh it doesn't?

[silk spade]

no

[frigid lava]

fuck i didn't kno

so leggo doesn't get dmg boost from anything?

[gleaming cosmos]

I certainly know it's not the meta thing but in pugs for Halls in 12-15's think it's worth running Juggernaut for the insane first boss value since you're not expecting anything crazy out of pulls.

[gleaming cosmos]

If the target takes more damage (Crawth at start of firestorm, chains boss Nelth etc) it will do more damage afaik.

But it does not benefit from your own buffs or buffs put on you.

[frigid lava]

oh

[gleaming cosmos]

Well I guess PI makes it cast time shorter but apart from that.

[frigid lava]

icic

I should use it differently

[pastel moss]

do enough other specs use chromatic essence for it to actually be worth using?

ive already accepted buying it for m+ was a mistake but im not even sure if i'll get most of the buffs in raid

[boreal quartz]

yes

[gleaming cosmos]

Just make sure to use outside of CD's, when possible use when you can have as many targets as possible with DoT and if you really want to min max see if you can position yourself in ways so that the damage gets funneled onto prio target/boss.

Only time I ever use in CD's if it's a damage amp as I mentioned above.

[fossil thistle]

Vers, and % damage modifiers that aren’t self applied IIRC.
(Smolderon orbs, 2nd boss in nokhud, Neltharus chains)

Avatar, cs, hurricane and stuff do not apply gains to it.
You want to fyralath before, or after all your CDs (personally, I find using it before allows it to naturally be used outside of CDs as the fight ensues)

[fossil thistle]

4 digit soon 🥲

[fossil thistle]

Yea this.
A way to cheese on trash is if you’re fighting a champion and a bunch of small adds, you can apply the dot, and use fyralath before they all day (consuming the stacks) and as they die, the damage will be amplified on the remaining living adds.
Positioning works too but I find it tends to hit mobs beside/behind if theyre close

[sacred zodiac]

no

[strange perch]

@boreal quartz come

[dire hinge]

No we use both in single target, it’s mostly for the rage they spend (fuels Test of Might, Anger Management, and Tactician)

[fluid crystal]

in aoe, when i have sweeping strikes up should i use cleave or MS ?

[kind sonnet]

4 targets ms, 5+ cleave

[fluid crystal]

thxd

[shadow ibex]

gonna try a full murph this monday

send me your power warrior pals

[quaint otter]

💪

[fossil thistle]

Still cleave though

[naive jolt]

bis trinkets?

[bleak remnant]

I am new to arms, what would be the second best weapon to have if you don't have the legendary?

[halcyon breach]

Ashkandur

[bleak remnant]

oh ok cool, thanks

[gaunt owl]

Asscandy

[coarse nymph]

what is the best 2 trinket for arms

[vagrant aspen]

Icon, essence, box, csb / anvil depending on fight

[sacred zodiac]

I am new to banezi, what would be the second best banezi to have if you don't have the banezi?

[eternal vortex]

banezi

[coarse nymph]

are thes trinket's ?

[eternal vortex]

ye

[tacit gate]

is there a stat to increase rage generation?

[shadow ibex]

crit

technically

you gen more rage on crit autos but not really something you would ever gear around for alone. we also just have a lot of crit amp and a tier bonus tied to critting

[tacit gate]

is that a trait?

[shadow ibex]

arms passive

seasoned soldier in ur spell book

[tacit gate]

okay I see, what about haste ?

[shadow ibex]

haste increase swing timer for ur weapon but u also get faster GCDs to spend faster

[tacit gate]

swing timer...?

[shadow ibex]

your weapon auto attack speed is tied to haste

you get rage for auto attacking as a warrior

[ornate juniper]

40% crit 40% haste = infinite rage

[tacit gate]

okay

I understand now

[shadow ibex]

crit auto attacks will generate more rage. haste will make you auto attack faster but you will also spend faster with faster GCDs

[tacit gate]

so if you get too much haste it will act as a subtle diminishing return

[ornate juniper]

you will also generate faster when running SOA

[shadow ibex]

we arent really in a position where you are out of rage until execute really

[tacit gate]

SOA?

[ornate juniper]

Strength of arms

[shadow ibex]

SoA doesnt affect rage until execute

and even then it just gives us a nice rage positive global instead of exe x3. not really possible to afford exe x3 unless you have a WFT sadly

[ornate juniper]

you would be suprised how much it generates, you wanna be hitting executable targets in aoe as much as possible

due to dreadnaught

[tacit gate]

yeah it seems to only work at 35%

dunno why I've always had trouble learning arms so I've always stuck with fury/prot

maybe im dumb but i wanna get it right as I like the way arms looks

[ornate juniper]

ive always found arms easier than the other two, as soon as you have the priority down its fairly chill. especially because of the lower APM it has compared to fury