#arms

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gaunt owl
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both are ok

hard cedar
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i think we have enough for oce to have all kinds, but we don't have a tank for icon and the healer we gave an icon is out for this week because of finals, but even then, they're best I got atm.

somber lance
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any specific builds for raiding this week

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it's all pretty standard right

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is there any reason to use puzzle box not on pull for any boss?

dire hinge
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only if there's a damage amp and the trinket wont be back up again for the amp itself

teal tide
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Could technically hold for when 2nd boss of experiments is about to come out

somber lance
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you mean because we lust then?

dire hinge
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2-target cleave with execute on one of them, massive burst window for arms

midnight mural
dire hinge
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but yeah, play that one based on your group. If you're just blasting it it's not worth it

teal tide
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I don't cd on pull of experiments even though we lust pull

somber lance
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oh how come

teal tide
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Because people do enough damage to push the boss to 50 while lust is still up tbh

astral yarrow
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You even did that in S2

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during farm

midnight mural
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2nd boss spawned at 27sec for us

teal tide
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I was too lazy on aberuss farm aagard >.>

astral yarrow
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thats me for this tier ratge

teal tide
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Id have to check but I think ava at 20 seconds? Last night

midnight mural
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y

teal tide
astral yarrow
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i mean you show up to do a job bedge

teal tide
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I show up, I shout, I go to bed

astral yarrow
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for this season i just shout from bed honestly

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exams and new puppy means i have way too little sleep and way too few hours in a day

teal tide
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So we have a new puppy

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And we don't post pics

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For what reason

astral yarrow
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coming right up bro

teal tide
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Let's gooo

midnight mural
teal tide
midnight mural
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as in yes : )

astral yarrow
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@teal tide

mild hound
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42 runs later T_T

midnight mural
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my god ❤️

teal tide
midnight mural
teal tide
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Here's mine sleeping like a weirdo

astral yarrow
astral yarrow
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goofy af

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Aussies known for their chicken wings is so funny

teal tide
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Bro I have a picture of him sleeping with his head just pointed up like a rocket, it's the goofiest thing

astral yarrow
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@teal tide

teal tide
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Ah the classic, the wall is actually the floor

astral yarrow
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She always finds some corner or wall to snuggle up in

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if she isnt chewing at it... -.-

teal tide
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Bro those first couple of months of teething 😓

astral yarrow
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Im not looking forward to it. Shes only 12 weeks old atm and every doorframe and the flooring in that room is chewed at

halcyon breach
astral yarrow
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fur demon

teal tide
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keksquad he's turning 11 months old in like a week and still chews on chairs, and window sills for some reason?

astral yarrow
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I wish we understood wtf was going on in their heads with those things

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like why tf are you chewing on your puppy pen

rare kite
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the rogue developer was literally in the rogue discord, explaining changes etc. was so nice

teal tide
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Bold of you to assume something is actually going on in there

nova marsh
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See

drifting widget
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anyone else's sims saying to ditch primary stat gem?mine is showing 2k dps gain switching all gems to haste/mastery

nova marsh
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Rogue is a class blizz likes

rare tapir
astral yarrow
# teal tide Bold of you to assume something is actually going on in there

Something has to right? A friend of my parent's dog had issues with her going berserk when the family was about to leave for the day. They had a dog behavior thingy guy out and he realized that the fact that everyone left meant the dog was confused. It was ready for something to happen and then it just gets left alone. The husband then just spends 5min extra in the house after the others leave and shes calm as can be.

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Dogs are fucking cool

nova marsh
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End class favoritism now

teal tide
midnight mural
astral yarrow
wicked aurora
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The next

drifting widget
wicked aurora
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They get huge

teal tide
teal tide
astral yarrow
rare kite
astral yarrow
wicked aurora
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She’s a Bernedoodle so she has plenty of zoomies still

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Only about a year and a couple months old

astral yarrow
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Yup

wicked aurora
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Great dogs

astral yarrow
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Somehow hit the jackpot with a blue merle with differently colored eyes

teal tide
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Also getting a fenced in yard has been a fucking game changer for him

wicked aurora
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Mine just has one thing on her mind all the time….the ball

astral yarrow
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i wanted a chodsky pez, but gf's sister has an aussie and my gf loves the known lol

wicked aurora
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Constantly dropping it in your lap lmao

astral yarrow
wicked aurora
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She’ll wear herself out if you throw the ball for her

astral yarrow
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its giga fun

wicked aurora
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Like legit collapse on the floor for about 15 minutes

teal tide
wicked aurora
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The house is connected to the grandparents house, so the backyard opens up so she gets to run between both yards

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She loves it

rare tapir
wicked aurora
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The funniest part is she sometimes decides she’s a lapdog despite being about 80lbs

astral yarrow
somber lance
wicked aurora
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It’s a BiS time, adds free survivability, never a wasted pick

rare tapir
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Indeed

teal tide
wicked aurora
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But if you do go lay down in bed she walks up next to you on the mattress and then flops right into your side lmao

teal tide
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Oh yea he does it at least two or three times a day, with out fail

tidal mango
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any remix gamer knows what stats should we aim for ?

boreal quartz
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all of em

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if ur geared u have infinite of all of em

tidal mango
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k

livid furnace
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Can I please ask some basic rotational questions? I have mained Fury Warrior since Mists and just switched to Arms this evening and trying to get my head around the rotation

I note that the guides say to use Rend or Thunder Clap to apply rend. however, i notice that mortal strike does this anyway? So do I need to do that on single target when MS is applying?

Also I keep getting instant procs of MS and Overpower so these seem immediately available to me most of the time

Should these be prioritised over Whirlwind and Thunderclap?

Hope that makes sense?

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SIngle Target Build

boreal quartz
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ms applies in exe

olive nest
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Ms only applies rend when bosses HP is below 35%

boreal quartz
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tc>rend unless u need rend but cant ms next global unless u rend

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prio is ms>op>ww>tc>slam
in cs ms ww op tc

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if u ever slam ur down horrible

livid furnace
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Ah ok..been rotating on Training dummy thats in execute range! That explains my confusion on Rend application

Do you guys ever use a WA to track?

halcyon breach
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Yes, since you need to track it outside of Execute

quartz cedar
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hey, during execute phase, is it more important to get to 15x juggernaut stacks before you go Exe > Exe > OP > EX, or just build them up while keeping the rotation?

halcyon breach
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Build while doing rotation

quartz cedar
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ok thank you

halcyon breach
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MS is still your hardest hitter in Execute, so losing out on many potential casts is just a damage loss

quartz cedar
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understandable, thank you.

somber lance
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i traded irideous fragment. hope we don't need it

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sims pretty bad compared to the rest

quartz cedar
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fragment always appears to beat out my other trinkets in dungeon slice.

somber lance
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ah yeah i dont slice

halcyon breach
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Fragment is generally worse than Puzzle, but not by a large margin

quartz cedar
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ive been running both, but i wonder how detrimental the on-use trinket cooldown is on the other trinket

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puzzle box 2 secs before pull puts irideus on 20 sec CD

halcyon breach
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Just use a stat stick instead

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Would not recommend 2x on-use

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So Puzzle + Icon/OCE, Pips, Call to Chaos if not push keys

quartz cedar
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well hopefully i get OCE tonight

somber lance
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we usually puzzle every time it's up on a fresh pack right?

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or boss

hallow python
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hey how many bullions are we at rn?

halcyon breach
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7

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Assuming you did the dungeon weekly quest

hallow python
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okay cool

gray steeple
boreal quartz
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shield ring is SICK

rare tapir
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ye went with the ring

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got puzzle box for shorter fights, which is alright i guess

quasi torrent
halcyon breach
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slots moment

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all 7s

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so lucky

calm trout
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Im pretty sure I used to macro APB trinket with BS is that still the go ? or is it worth macro-ing worth something else ?

halcyon breach
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You can only macro it together with Avatar, but that's only something you'd do if you run Blademaster's Torment which generally isn't used unless you just want pad really

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They changed it going into S4 where Puzzle is on the GCD, making it unable to be used mid normal BS

calm trout
outer holly
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is the healing recorded in details by the ring simply the total shield it has produced, or shielded damage it has prevented?

halcyon breach
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Prevented

mild zenith
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my friend when is better to use the leggo ????

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ty for your answer

gray steeple
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when you have it

mild zenith
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but if i have burst? wich one go first

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burst swepping strikes and after those leggo?

halcyon breach
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Before or after CDs, depends on context. In raid you'd Charge -> MS -> Lego -> Ava + Roar -> CS -> MS -> TC -> WW -> Rest of rotation
In M+, you'd basically use it whenever outside of CDs as a rule of thumb

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There are some caveat moments where you'd use it mid CDs, if it means you get to snapshot a bunch of marks from mobs that are close to dying, to funnel a big use into a prio add

mild zenith
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perfect my friend and ty

reef glade
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7

daring heron
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8

raw cloak
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how does bad luck protection work with the legendary this season? what % is lfr clear each week, vs normal or heroic for example? sorry if this is posted somewhere i can only find s3 info

raw cloak
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were the numbers ever revealed for the different difficulties?

gray steeple
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Roughly 15 HC

raw cloak
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damn

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shame it puts such a wall up for people wanting to reroll into pala/dk/warr

gray steeple
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Ye4ah, should get it on login. Like all the s3 people who worked for it

raw cloak
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not what i'm saying, i'm just saying it puts up a big barrier of entry for people who want to try out these classes in any competitive form, basically just a no-go for this season given how short it's likely tto be

halcyon breach
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Adding it to the vendors, either directly or just the quest item, wouldn't be a big issue at this point

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I considered playing a ret alt, but it wont happen at all since I have to farm the lego

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Can still play with just Ashkandur but not the same amount of fun to be had from it

raw cloak
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It's not like hunters have to re-farm their bow from s1, albeit not a legendary but it's a similar feeling. Lots of people will just choose to not play warr/pala/dk at a 5% or more dps loss because they have to farm 15 HC clears before they can get it

gray steeple
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Or let folks buy a 502 version for the tranmog. That would be cool

raw cloak
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i know i'm not offering a solution here but yeah just an oversight for what's basically a meme season anyway

spark mango
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guys i need some help picking out my vault

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anyone in the mood?

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this is me keep in mind that i play both arms and fury and i have gems on my 522 ring, 522 head, and my waist and wrist

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and this is vault

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i have 45 aspect to spend

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and my second embelish is blue silken on feet

gray steeple
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Did you sim? If not, maybe sockets

spark mango
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if i get suckets i wont have items for them immediatly

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goes to future weeks

gray steeple
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Save the sockets for fire ring

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Put one in helm now

spark mango
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i have one in helm

gray steeple
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Or wrists

spark mango
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all my items are socketed aside from that 515 ring

gray steeple
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I'd get sockets for fire/shield rings then but you do you boo

spark mango
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yeah i mean i think sockets are the way to go honestly, i just feel bad cuz i took them also last week

reef glade
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i think sockets are more of a "if youre going to use them this week for a gain take them" but if its a "save them for eventually some other item" and you still have other upgrades rather take that

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cuz like currently i also am in a similar choice where i could get helm ilvl upgrade and rly want to but spending aspects on recrafting bracer to bsl and getting sockets is like 4k more dps, but i'd just use sockets immediately probably

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cause like you can get sockets any week whereas if u still need a myth track helmet or something thats "potentially" less common

hard cedar
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If you take helm, that will also increase the damage of the helm enchant

reef glade
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but idk like the sockets with bsl recraft is 8k dps NOW which is what i would use em on

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but if u dont plan on using sockets immediately helmet is probably pretty safe

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probably like 1 or 2 more weeks till most ppl start not needing ilvl upgrades from vault/raid anymore so its just socket city for the rest of the patch

hard cedar
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at the moment, I'd only get sockets if there isn't an item that's an upgrade and I'm putting those sockets on something I'm not going to be replacing.

oblique hamlet
reef glade
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oyea didnt see shoulders that is better crest save for sure

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than helmet at least

brazen osprey
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how much haste should i stop at?

sinful thorn
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Yes.

reef glade
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just sim your gear but a number around the 40s is a decent place to be

muted trout
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what are best trinkets on arms?

brazen osprey
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im at 45 lol

reef glade
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yea thats probably fine

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just sim gems to diff stats if they're haste and see if it says any are better

brazen osprey
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i use brand and ominous

reef glade
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can try like crit mainstat

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or something

reef glade
brazen osprey
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got ya

reef glade
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passive can be like oce/icon/pips is decent too

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augury is also useable i think just not as crazy

muted trout
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ty mate

cold kestrel
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guys

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what buff do we take on academy? mega high keys = versa

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what if low? mastery buff?

hazy flower
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haste

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you should be getting ~ 7% haste from the buff

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  • it's your technically most wanted stat on which you skip all the DR because its just %
cold kestrel
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what color?

hazy flower
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First on the left, yellow

cold kestrel
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cheers

errant goblet
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is fatality affected my dmg buffs like colossus smash, avatar, box?

dire hinge
obsidian topaz
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So sick of this key meta already

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endless queues making me play prot

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its gotten worse this season for sure

opal folio
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Non meta, pandaria, cataclysm

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This season is dead before it even started

sinful thorn
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How do we sim M+

dire hinge
sinful thorn
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Aight

obsidian topaz
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Ill usually do a ST 4min, and a 5target 1m30 with no lust or raid buffs

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and a DSlice for good measure

latent silo
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Dps meta been the same since season 2. Aug was a mistake

jade basalt
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Lizardsdeadge

molten crane
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grieftorch in keys? or nah

jade basalt
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Torch itself ain’t the best choice for us afaik

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If thats your pick its a good burst anyways in general

molten crane
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it's fun in raid

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i have an equal ilvl puzzle box though, which im assuming is much better in keys

jade basalt
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Big stat buff for big aoe

jade basalt
molten crane
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raid has alot more people to reset your grieftorch lol

runic urchin
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am i cooked for the rest of my life i cant get any haste gear if my life depended on it

jade basalt
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Longterm you can get craft gear, and seems like you can get far more total stat budget by farming high ilvl gears

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And there isn’t any option to make a big change to your stats atm 🤷‍♂️

molten crane
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ill bet wafting devo sims crazy good for you lol

silk bloom
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Any tips on analyzing logs to start doing the small things better. I’m simming 392 but usually sitting around 330jk ST. Usually we kill the boss 2-3 mins than the 5 min sim. Any suggestions would be appreciated

obsidian topaz
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ya no I literally dont get into anything unless its my key or im tanking

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crazy times

molten crane
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same. straight up didnt do a key last week

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looked for one for 20 mins. found one. it fell apart before the key started because someone afk lmao

frigid lava
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I'm about to hit 525 ilvl... yet my dps sucks

molten crane
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ST or m+?

torn delta
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its viable to use staffs at remix?

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or its just irrelevant?

jade basalt
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If you mean by weapon category its irrelevant since the base gamesystem is DF, so if it has str you’re fine

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Just check twice before disenchanting current wep cause you can get 1hand drops deadge

rugged wave
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Would I be right by crafting 525 torc with flavor pocket instead of going for 528 neck out of vault?

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Accidents happen and food buff gives more stats than 3ilvl diff

reef glade
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uh i mean if u think u die a lot sure

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more practical in m+

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but "most of the time" shouldnt be dying in raid

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anything happens ofc

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ok crisis averted i received a tempostone from sark

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no longer have to deliberate between choosing helm from vault or not so sockets have been chosen

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now its just make bsl or upgrade

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seems like bsl it is xan

frigid lava
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weak trinks

astral yarrow
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lariat and vers bracers huh

frigid lava
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im based

astral yarrow
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stuck in s3 dander

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even S1

frigid lava
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s4 is the new s1

astral yarrow
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thank god

sudden fox
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Whats wrong with vers bracers lol

astral yarrow
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it isnt BSL bedge

teal tide
teal tide
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give me bsl or give me death

halcyon breach
astral yarrow
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🐒

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unga

frigid lava
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ungaboonga

flint trench
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Does the BS Macro with Storm eaters boon for movement still work on live?

quasi torrent
astral yarrow
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Fated Shriekwing was peak

quasi torrent
astral yarrow
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i think it ended up at like 35 sec killtimer during the motes weeks

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it was absurd

latent moss
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motes

gray herald
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zaqali assault moment

quasi torrent
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we pushed zaqali to 25 as he lleft the platform yday

astral yarrow
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We had sub 1min assault yesterday

quasi torrent
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and he was just stuck in mid air

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for 25s

astral yarrow
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That is very cool

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he didnt leave platform for us

quasi torrent
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and then healed to 45 as he entered last phase, not the usual suck up

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but just instantly

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then some adds reached door and we had debuff

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not a hot time

astral yarrow
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Its just such a mess of a boss lol

quasi torrent
latent moss
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shit ass fight

quasi torrent
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not attackable during any of this

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was a good one

latent moss
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funny how mortal wounds just

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just halves his healing

quasi torrent
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my mortal wounds dropped :3

latent moss
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:3

quasi torrent
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cause OUT OF FUCKING MELEE

latent moss
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i think on jailer u played arms for mortal wounds

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or was it a hunter or something

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i forgor

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triple warrior echo

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holy xeos

quasi torrent
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was just good ye

astral yarrow
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Spear kinda goated for MCs as well

halcyon breach
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Throwback to my only coms during Jailer being "mcd can't spear"

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Holy that fight bricked me so hard

daring heron
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xdd

quasi torrent
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this week is arms week cause of sanguini
real?
real

daring heron
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kinda real

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but also afk week mostly tbh

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sanguini is so annoying to play i cba

quasi torrent
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its kinda annoying but honestly

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unless u do #1 keys this is like an easy week

daring heron
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ya

quasi torrent
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(especially if u have rdruid, veng, aug)

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just use grips and knocks in a reasonable manner

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even unmovable mobs usually have movable mobs around them, just knock them

daring heron
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hoi first pull

quasi torrent
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hmmm

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actually i should look into mortal wounds sanguini healing reduction tracker

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but im also hella lazy

daring heron
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same

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lots of sanguini healing isnt that bad tho like

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if small irrelevant mobs heal it's whatever

chilly hull
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how much time encounter have to last to use Cataclysmic Signet Brand instead of puzzle box in raid?

daring heron
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you can sim that

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box is also very very good on like 3:30-4min fights

quasi torrent
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time to just take this and change it to mortal wounds yep

daring heron
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5 mins brand should shoot ahead

chilly hull
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lol, as u told - brand is better only for 5+ mins fights

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for me i mean

quasi torrent
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hm where is mobs in the open world that heal themselves

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cause i think this should work, just swapped out spell id to track mobs to mortal wounds instead of brand, swapped event to HEAL and PERIODIC_HEAL and then instead of giving it 5% of the total just give it 50% of it

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surely thatll work

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i mean it sounds sound to me

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but who knows!

daring heron
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stun mob in sanguine to pad details!

quasi torrent
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its not a details thing

daring heron
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o

quasi torrent
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i just reworked the chaos brand WA

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that posts the number in chat

daring heron
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aaah

quasi torrent
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i have no clue how detaisl mods / scripts work ngl

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when i did classic print debugger it did remove and add mobs properly atleast

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man i wish we could actually pick of FBV and IP at the same time

astral yarrow
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just drop a bb point

halcyon breach
# daring heron

Protcake never asks me to do keys I think protcake hates me or something

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I've had to pick up the shield myself instead..

astral yarrow
halcyon breach
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Pretty sure Aagaardhands was busy being stuck in Krasarang Wilds when I did it

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The same individual who leeched off of my Galleon oneshots

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Cant believe this Aagaardhands guy..

astral yarrow
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Half my time in that gamemode is spent in vCenter on second monitor doing exam work honestly

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Then queue for normal/hc raids as healer and get hard carried

halcyon breach
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Ok I excuse it then, can kill galleon for you another time

astral yarrow
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Thanks bro

halcyon breach
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Anytime bro

astral yarrow
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how about nalak and the other world bosses

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are they even available

halcyon breach
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Ye

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All are

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Idk about low levels tho

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Don't know what lvl req is to get to Isle of thunder

quasi torrent
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all my homies hate vcenter

boreal quartz
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Zone prolly a tad earlier

astral yarrow
dull turtle
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Hi, got a question, is there some secrets tips for AOE rotation with arms ? im 522 i get low dps. like 330k average for a +8 +9

astral yarrow
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issue is the company that bought vmware tho

boreal quartz
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Play the rotation right

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It's really simple but that's the "hack"

dull turtle
boreal quartz
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Wdym doesnt work

dull turtle
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low dps when i should do more

halcyon breach
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It definitely works just pressing cds on cd

dull turtle
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thats what i do

boreal quartz
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Cuz i can assure u ur not doing crits globals 1 for 1

halcyon breach
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As arms I literally hammer my cds the moment they're somewhat aligned and have no issue doing damage

boreal quartz
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CD on CD on arms feels better than fury for low keys kekw

halcyon breach
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Ye I don't do higher than 11s or 12s

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Not a pushing kinda guy

astral yarrow
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double digit keys are cringe

halcyon breach
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They are

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But when I'm a rat for saving crests I end up doing 10s anyway for vault

boreal quartz
halcyon breach
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Like I'm holding crests to not upgrade my helm from 515 to 522, because I bank on getting from raid tonight

boreal quartz
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If u can solo a key as dps it's ideal

quasi torrent
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is fine

halcyon breach
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Did the same last week

boreal quartz
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So sad

halcyon breach
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It is what it is

boreal quartz
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Idk 3 bosses left i loot rashok helm

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Then i get szkarn belt and cape and im ranlmy 427

astral yarrow
boreal quartz
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With no key played last 2 weeks

halcyon breach
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Despite remix I still ended up with 2x full vaults

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It just happens

boreal quartz
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Cuz the one farm i did - gate first pull

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Got axed over instance lock abusers

halcyon breach
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They killed HoF as well

boreal quartz
halcyon breach
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Very fun

boreal quartz
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I wasnt strong enough for Hof cuz rat

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Like 17k cloak actually shitter hours

halcyon breach
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My char was probably strong enough to do as fury

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But didn't get to try

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Mine is only like 39k I think

boreal quartz
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Like i did all campaigns n shit and level 70 by cloak barely was 6k or 7k

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Love getting punished for doing stuff early but not froging

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So ye that's why i havent keyed tiny tilt

quasi torrent
#

that was

#

a setup for sure

#

passed through a 2 port network card so i could use one as WAN and one as LAN

halcyon breach
quasi torrent
#

do NOT do this

halcyon breach
#

Then go do retail stuff

#

Until a new farm is found

boreal quartz
#

1 fight to go and HM is done

halcyon breach
#

Also valid

boreal quartz
#

Surely i wont choke end fight...

halcyon breach
#

New gacha game dropped yesterday

astral yarrow
quasi torrent
halcyon breach
#

So maybe I become warcraftless for a while

quasi torrent
halcyon breach
quasi torrent
#

its very fine even

#

definetly more secure than using your isps router as a gateway

#

🤷‍♂️

halcyon breach
#

Have never struggled with it

quasi torrent
#

if someone wants to either get through the pfsense firewall or somehow exploit it to escape VM without breaching fw

#

be my fucking guest

#

honestly

#

at that point they deserve to have access to my network

daring heron
boreal quartz
#

With enemy emperor

boreal quartz
halcyon breach
boreal quartz
#

I am planning to abuse invouln scrolls

#

Got enough money to buy another 4 so i total 8

#

Just perma immune or smth like that

#

And 450 in p2 is easily burnable forsure

daring heron
#

my group has been chilling and risking things a bit much

#

one of the first things we did in act 3 on hm was go to ansur

halcyon breach
#

Bounce arrows are omega giga busted

daring heron
#

we almost died but hey we got the sword and helm

dull turtle
boreal quartz
#

So ye

boreal quartz
#

So i had 3 guys not playing for like 4 rounds

#

But was recoverable

daring heron
#

we attacked gortash instantly as well

#

that one didnt go so well

#

one of us had to rat and escape and ress with withers lmao

boreal quartz
#

Had to do that on wwargaz

#

Never fought it before and got turbo murdered

daring heron
boreal quartz
#

Myrkul was clean af tho

#

5 rounds including kethric

#

Tiny bit of crit luck...

#

And undead slaying arrow

astral yarrow
daring heron
#

Myrkul was pretty bad for us cause our paladin pretty much nuked ketheric on turn 1 so we got myrkul + all of the initial adds and also hadnt clicked to free nightsong yet 💀

boreal quartz
#

Dog + invis

daring heron
#

Ended up being a super long fight with me throwing healing potions everywhere

astral yarrow
#

is that BG3 gibberish

boreal quartz
#

I think for ultrasafe myrk u play doomhammer

daring heron
#

yeee

astral yarrow
#

ah

boreal quartz
#

Since it gives undead it hits disadvantage

#

Also bludg. dam vs myrk

daring heron
#

yeah we didnt have good ways to deal dmg to him tbf

#

our main dmg dealers were me as throwbarb and the other guy some sort of magic missile build, but his build didnt seem to work on myrkul

boreal quartz
#

Next time around i got like 8 things im mind to do even more dam to it

daring heron
#

cant remember why

boreal quartz
#

I HATE throwing man

#

Such a cringe build keks

daring heron
#

it's extra cringe cause of return delay

boreal quartz
#

Like randomly throwing out a jabber on a melee is based

#

But mainly throwing zzz

boreal quartz
daring heron
#

ye i kept using pike lmao

boreal quartz
#

Till nyrulna

#

Oh no...

daring heron
#

ya

sacred zodiac
boreal quartz
#

Im using it rn, but mainly cuz piercing for bhaalists armor

boreal quartz
#

Nuh uh

sacred zodiac
#

spreading misinformation on the internet

daring heron
#

my paladin friend loves getting chunked by nyrulna aoe too

quasi torrent
#

the biggest issue was rebooting the host

#

cause that obv just deleted my router

#

xdd

#

so i big dreaded restarting my host

astral yarrow
#

Living on the edge

quasi torrent
#

once my hosts OS drive died

#

and iw as like

#

uhhh

#

what do

astral yarrow
#

its actually pretty funny seeing how much shit actually tries to ping your firewall

quasi torrent
#

as i said, do NOT recommend

boreal quartz
#

Or maybe i add 2 Spore druid...

#

That is such a cooked subclass it's insane

daring heron
#

i think 11 fighter + 1 fighter dip is bis

boreal quartz
#

Or 1 war cleric

#

For max nova

#

Dump 7 arrows of slaying into the dragon and 1 round it

#

Though the gloomstalker Initiative is super nice

daring heron
#

problem with minmaxing this much is the game gets too easy

boreal quartz
#

I can make up for that with bad decisions..

#

But yea maybe i do 3 Player HM sometime

#

Considering ppl can do it solo

daring heron
#

thats why i played with +300% health mod on enemies and also gave them bonus to attack rolls a few months back

#

but not for this hm run tho

boreal quartz
#

Doesnt that turn it into a slog

daring heron
#

it does but at least i didnt one turn stuff all the time

boreal quartz
#

I am coercing @median scroll to do a 2 player run and we just skip some items

#

Like titanstring

#

Incredibly unfair bow..

quaint cosmos
#

anyone know why i cant use my lego and av macro

boreal quartz
#

Lego is on GCD ava isnt

quaint cosmos
#

not using it during gcd

#

even when its down i cant use it for somereason

boreal quartz
#

It has to be using during the jump part of the lego

#

Which it doesnt do in melee

#

Or rather you dont have enough time if u normally activate it

quaint cosmos
#

what im saying is its not even activating at all

#

no avatar or anything

boreal quartz
#

And considering it's only worth doing so with bs proc

#

Ive never tried much beyond my initial input here

quaint cosmos
#

but when i press the macro it doesnt even activate

gray herald
#

does it work if you do /use 16 instead of the first line

sacred zodiac
#

why do you want this macro anyways

quaint cosmos
#

cos i can use it during bs on pull

sacred zodiac
#

oh you're playing double bladestorm

#

yikes

quaint cosmos
#

looool

#

i didnt even realise we dont use double bs hahaha

daring heron
#

isnt it avatar first if you do the double bs macro

boreal quartz
#

Yes

#

Man on sark there's wonderful pad with lego since rava ticks to to the next Rampage mid lego

#

So you 3 Rampage one bt ur first WW into add wave 1 xan

quaint cosmos
boreal quartz
#

Fury on st bedge
Fury on pad xan

mortal vigil
#

something is sus here

quasi torrent
#

this should work now atleast

lone imp
#

what dat

daring heron
#

healing prevented innit

lone imp
#

Oh that's cool

quasi torrent
#

mhm

#

if i have to read wow api documentation on wowwiki one more time

#

i might just 🎰

lone imp
#

I just feel cozy this week knowing I'm helping prevent sanguine healing

#

Even tho I'm the only one in the group thinking about it

quaint cosmos
#

does fyralath do more damage per target or is it st

quasi torrent
#

it gains more dam, but the one use is split yes

quaint cosmos
#

so is it 10% per target or just 10% flat

mortal vigil
#

its 10% if you have it active on any target

chilly mulch
quaint cosmos
#

2 different answers

chilly mulch
#

Oh nvm increase by 10% not 10% per stack

#

Sorry I’m just participating in leggo talk to cope with no leggo drop AGAIN this week

quasi torrent
steady plover
gray herald
stable osprey
#

maybe a stupid question. with the OCE trinket, you buff it with mastery right?

hallow turtle
stable osprey
#

ok, so you cant select the buffs on raidbots probably, so take all, and sim sepperate?

sacred zodiac
#

sim it using this string

#

take your /simc string and put it into advanced, then copy the string i replied to and paste it after the simc string

stable osprey
severe saffron
#

at the very end silly

sacred zodiac
#

i literally explained how to paste it

#

flying around from zone to zone wont work either way cause the sim will just overwrite it with the setting at the bottom

lone imp
#

That sim always shows low numbers for me

sacred zodiac
#

should still work for the purpose of showing you what stat you want

lone imp
#

Yeah it do

#

Still bothers me tho

somber lance
#

That sims shows me like 7k more dps than when i do gear compare

#

No idea why

#

I just ignore it and pick the best one

lone imp
#

You probably don't have all buffs selected on your other sim

astral yarrow
#

The same settings aren’t applied to an advanced sim

#

So that’s why

somber lance
#

Ah yeah i don’t

#

That’s why

#

Nice

#

I don’t PI myself in normal sim

lone imp
astral yarrow
#

That’s why I usually tell people to paste it in expert mode instead, but you can fuck that up so 🤷‍♀️

stable osprey
lone imp
#

This is what was happening to me

upbeat remnant
#

guys any macros when use algethar box?

nocturne zenith
#

Not worth macroing it into anything I think

upbeat remnant
#

cool

halcyon breach
#

But you'll prob reach this like once in the Algethar pull

#

Where you're busy pressing other buttons

quasi torrent
#

real

olive nest
#

Can get like 18 stacks on echo if you get corrupted

halcyon breach
#

very ethical funnel into add

daring heron
#

should probably target some solo ranged guy with it tbh

#

see what happens

cinder lotus
#

what stat do i get most benefit out of stacking if im into insane dr's already on remix? 30% penalty on all atm

reef glade
reef glade
quasi torrent
#

thanks for repeating what banezi already said

reef glade
#

ok that was like 50 messages under yours

old urchin
# quasi torrent thanks for repeating what banezi already said

Why come in with this type of attitude when peeps are just trying to learn? Discord can move fast and it’s easy to miss/lose something. The dude is trying to be helpful and if I was asking for advice I’d appreciate it even if it was repeated.

reef glade
#

holy xeos

quasi torrent
#

its capped at 50

#

its capped at 50

#

its capped at 50

#

its capped at 50

#

its capped at 50

#

there u go

reef glade
#

now u wont forget!

#

did my job

#

L

tardy crag
gray herald
boreal quartz
#

@quasi torrent what is capped where

#

Dont say 50

quasi torrent
#

50

somber lance
#

50 🧢

sacred zodiac
# reef glade ok that was like 50 messages under yours

Why come in with this type of attitude when peeps are just trying to learn? Discord can move fast and it’s easy to miss/lose something. The dude is trying to be helpful and if I was asking for advice I’d appreciate it even if it was repeated.

boreal quartz
#

@reef glade Why come in with this type of attitude when peeps are just trying to learn? Discord can move fast and it’s easy to miss/lose something. The dude is trying to be helpful and if I was asking for advice I’d appreciate it even if it was repeated.

left talon
#

damn you guys should really duel it out in valdrakken like mike tyson vs jake paul

sacred zodiac
#

this is wrong arms does more damage right now

somber lance
#

Good find

#

Scrolling expert

quasi torrent
#

real

stiff anvil
#

based

hallow turtle
#

All cap on god

errant goblet
#

if a boss is less than 5 minutes do you think it would be better to use strength pot at execute phase or on pull still?

sacred zodiac
#

being unlucky with procs and crits does not cause a blue parse

novel garden
#

Mop remix question, do we go for crit/haste for prismatic stats or do we get mastery considering both gem and gear gives double of it?

boreal quartz
#

You can grab everything in the end

#

Id go for haste initially cuz fun

sacred zodiac
#

theres a log review channel but i looked into it a bit

#

your gear is just kinda asss, no legendary is legit -inf dam

midnight mural
#

No Lego is rough

sacred zodiac
#

idk why you avatar roared there instead of just holding avatar for 10 seconds to then have a big tom stack into execute

#

your exe rotation looks a bit shaky with random 4 gcd gaps between MS like this

daring heron
#

prolly didnt have rage for that ms after 2nd exe?

sacred zodiac
#

after cs?

daring heron
#

yeee can happen

sacred zodiac
#

can it??

daring heron
sacred zodiac
#

sure this then if you somehow dont have rage to ms after cs

daring heron
#

ya that one cant be explained

gray herald
#

reflect health pot healthstone rally

#

damn

#

monka

sacred zodiac
#

swifty one live

boreal quartz
#

Oshit macro is an osha violation

#

Also wrong Hpot used

daring heron
#

but ye if you go into cs with low rage, especially if you dont track swingtimer and your auto went off just before you used CS, you prolly dont have rage for exe exe ms

#

or a singular aa parry can also cause that

boreal quartz
#

Love AA parry

frigid lava
#

CS parry cringe

fresh tide
#

parry moment

reef glade
sacred zodiac
boreal remnant
#

Not sure if I wanna buy OCE or pip's

#

for m+

#

playing with people who have OCE

frigid lava
#

OCE doesn't sim very high... actually

quasi torrent
boreal remnant
#

yeah

frigid lava
#

yea... if u have ppl with OCEs then.. maybe

#

I have OCE but topgear always says otherwise.

#

I like it because something I don't have to bother with.

quasi torrent
#

did u ever figure this out?

sacred zodiac
#

yeah you have to rend in execute !!!

quasi torrent
#

thanks

#

i will use this in my shadowlands pserver

sacred zodiac
#

still busy?

quasi torrent
#

busy gambling

#

🎰

dawn stag
reef glade
sacred zodiac
reef glade
#

nice lil 10 nelth

dawn stag
gray herald
midnight mural
sacred zodiac
midnight mural
#

Da fuk why u quoting stuff from 2021 lol

boreal quartz
#

Why not

#

Anyways @sacred zodiac guide says tundaclap but i dont have it on my tree nor spell book - do they means nightfae stomp

gaunt owl
#

why are people digging stuff from 2021

#

it wont makes us any youngers

quaint otter
clever crag
#

Dig stuff from Legion

#

Best time to be alive and play this game

unborn canyon
#

Dig up the execute meme, even though it's fury doing it

#

Truly great time to play warrior

latent moss
boreal quartz
#

copecone do i play m+ or MOP

latent moss
#

sod

#

chatting

#

MOP = 🐸 🧑‍🌾

unborn canyon
#

Mop is wild rn, people just keep finding new farms, blizzard nerfs them, then people move on to a new farm, repeat

boreal quartz
#

mop got me makin braindead char names

somber lance
#

I thoughts tusks was 20 garries

#

20 shards of mannoroth or wtv

gray herald
#

20 if you only do normal

#

you get like 5 for hc and 10 for mythic

boreal quartz
#

ye but i want all items for garrytokens

#

so its 40 total assuming normal only

#

but im tryna do sooooooo mythic

#

not cloaked up enough yet

unborn canyon
#

Oh I get more from higher difficulty?

#

Time to find a frogger to solo mythic for me while I afk

somber lance
#

I want some of the heirlooms too

#

They look dummy sick

#

But too busy tryna get good at the video game on real servers

elfin kindle
#

is it normal that str is so low?

boreal quartz
#

thats an aoe sim no?

#

but ye

elfin kindle
#

yeah

#

aight, dual stat food it is

boreal quartz
#

shouldve been since s3

elfin kindle
#

never statweighted

boreal quartz
#

respectable

elfin kindle
#

played fury, slam vers & blast m+

gaunt owl
#

thats why you shouldnt

#

its cursed

teal fossil
#

dont worry

#

no other class has this problem

#

we dont scale anymore

sacred zodiac
dire hinge
#

food sims gladge

food=fated_fortune_cookie
copy="Food: (45 Haste and vers) Aromatic Seafood Platter"
food=aromatic_seafood_platter
copy="Food: (45 haste and crit) Feisty Fish Sticks"
food=feisty_fish_sticks
copy="Food: (45 vers and mastery) Great Cerulean Sea"
food=great_cerulean_sea
copy="Food: (45 crit and vers) Revenge Served Cold"
food=revenge_served_cold
copy="Food: (45 haste and mastery) Sizzling Seafood Medley"
food=sizzling_seafood_medley
copy="Food: (45 crit and mastery) Thousandbone Tongueslicer"
food=thousandbone_tongueslicer
copy="Food: (70 crit) - Filet of Fangs"
food=filet_of_fangs
copy="Food: (70 haste) - Timely Demise"
food=timely_demise
copy="Food: (70 mastery) - Salt-Baked Fishcake"
food=saltbaked_fishcake
copy="Food: (70 vers) - Seamoth Surprise"
food=seamoth_surprise```
sacred zodiac
#

well done

dire hinge
#

oh ty

quasi shore
#

any tips to keep anvil up in m+ ?

sour forge
#

Cast it when the buff is about to fall off outside of combat

dire hinge
#

try to time the Anvil casts so that you're activating the on-use as you run between packs, or re-enter combat with a critter

#

at times it will just fall off though, so it's a more risky trinket

outer holly
#

does anvil still have that bug where it drops like you're out of combat?

dire hinge
#

unsure on that one, but it works like Signet Brand does, and does fall off if you're out of combat

last pier
#

what are the best stats weight for arms lads?

dire hinge
#

usually sim as you go though

#

just because Crit/Haste are good for doesn't mean it's good to lather it on every crafted piece

last pier
#

thanks for link :p but i asked because i remember some guys were saying 40 40 40 20 or somehting like that

dire hinge
#

for sure, and sims will eventually push you in that direction, with decent variance throughout

tough tangle
#

Are you a new yellow named lad Hrothmar

last pier
#

thanks hrothmar

dire hinge
#

of course ❤️

dire hinge
dire hinge
last pier
#

i have these

#

at 524 ilvl

#

i dont know really what to improve more

dire hinge
#

should be more than okay to run those!

#

droptimizer / crafted gear sims will be the best for finding upgrades, rather than looking at specific secondaries

#

especially with Bullion gear sort of soft-locking us in to certain pieces

fathom shoal
#

No speed stats? Pfft

last pier
#

it sucks because mastery is really good for AOE but trash for single target

dire hinge
#

it's still good for single target, it's a flat dps% increase

#

our single target build just heavily favors Crit/Haste for big hits, rage gen, proccing 4p, and then ToM really loves haste in general

#

arms likes all stats

last pier
#

thanks bossman 😄

dire hinge
#

always!

rare kite
teal fossil
#

can do it for rogues

#

1 sec

teal fossil
#

nah

#

rogues are still good

#

warrior exclusive problem

gaunt owl
#

delete warrior

#

problem solved

#

thats so easy to fix

rare kite
#

unfortunate, warrior problems

clever carbon
#

obv going for leggo every week but should i spend bullions on ashkendur in the mean time?

hallow turtle
#

Probably is the right play to get ashkendur. Wep dmg is the biggest dmg increase we have I’m pretty sure

rare kite
clever carbon
#

i have 8

quartz cedar
#

7 more weeks until youre guaranteed to get the legendary. I'd probably get Ashkandur.

#

by that time, you might not even care about the legendary any more since the expansion will be right around the corner

gaunt owl
#

you will forever be missing the tmog if you dont do it

hazy flower
#

tmog bad

#

short orange stick

sage badge
#

Is lego guaranteed on mythic? Asking for a friend

gaunt owl
#

sadly no

#

but you can have a raid looted one too

quartz cedar
#

7 mythic attempts right?

gaunt owl
#

so 2 shot

sage badge
teal fossil
#

id imagine its less than 5%

sacred zodiac
#

68%

#

source: i made it tf up

halcyon breach
#

Source: I didn't make it tf up

hazy flower
#

not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?

gaunt owl
teal fossil
hazy flower
#

whats the original guy @

teal fossil
#

dreamshitter i think

hazy flower
#

man the 3 dots

#

they give that

#

40yo man putting same pfp on facebook 28 times in a row

#

vibe

teal fossil
#

yeah the triple dots is actually the tipping point

teal fossil
#

its so weird

hazy flower
#

bros making sure everyone gets notification

halcyon breach
sacred zodiac
#

No you will tell me instead

halcyon breach
#

The truth of the matter is

#

I don't know I'm too lazy to look at logs

little nova
#

Is it alright to ask about log assistance here or should I ask over in #449510248579858432 ? My parses are crap and I have no idea why

hallow turtle
hazy flower
#

maybe @sacred zodiac

little nova
teal fossil
#

you dont have legendary

#

so thats a start

hazy flower
#

another thing is youre 512

outer holly
#

ilvl 512, no leggo, signet trinket performs badly on fast fights

hazy flower
#

in a content where most people are 520

#

youre using rend and slam, you shouldn't use any of them

teal fossil
#

eh

#

2 casts of slam

hallow turtle
#

CS before Ava

hazy flower
#

Well slam can be used under specific conditions if you have crushing force, which you dont

#

its more than 2

teal fossil
#

sorry

#

2 casts of rend

#

its not big deal

#

2 cast on magmorax

hazy flower
#

checking kaz

little nova
outer holly
#

not getting much value from icon either in that raid

teal fossil
little nova
#

Should I not be rending at all?

timber lynx
#

Too much slam deadge

teal fossil
#

because people have leggo and you dont

hazy flower
#

ye ilv parse is whatever

teal fossil
#

10 slams is a lot yeah

hazy flower
#

you should use thunderclap

#

instead of slam

little nova
#

Oh really??

timber lynx
#

Use tclap instead of slam and rend tbh

hallow turtle
little nova
#

I've mainly been slamming when everything else is on cd

hazy flower
#

It gives you bigger test of might, more cdr on anger management and guaranteed tactician reset

teal fossil
#

you should prio TC>slam

hazy flower
#

so its just better to use tclap

hallow turtle
#

Slam is only there when everything else is on cd, that means TC, WW, MS, OP

hazy flower
#

also dont press ww in execute

#

the only buttons you should be pressing are ms exe or op

hallow turtle
#

Execute should look like exe > exe > MS and if you don’t have rage then OP > MS

olive nest
#

But yeah never slam or WW or Rend or TC During execute

quartz cedar
#

it is funny to tell the 2nd guy on the dps meter that all i pressed to leapfrog him in the last 35% of the bosses health was execute, but yes, the proper way is ex > ex > ms or ex > ex> op > ms

outer holly
#

exe*3 often leads to the dreaded exe > OP > OP rotation

#

I miss windfury

olive nest
#

Exe3 definitely happens more with wft

#

It’s safe to exe3 if you’re over 60 rage after exe2

#

I know prio says 40

hazy flower
#

So a list:

  • Gear, you're 512 ilv and no lego - that's a big difference between people who are 520+ (some are even 525+ boosting and whatever it all inflates the parses)
  • Thunderclap instead of rend/slam, you can only slam if your ms, op, ww, thunderclap are on cd
  • Exe rotation should be like this: Exe exe exe ms or exe exe op ms - depends on your rage, if you can ms after 3rd exe you should do that, if not then op. Windfury helps a lot with that. Do not ever use rend/ww below 35%.
olive nest
#

But then you run into 2 op if wft doesn’t proc

hazy flower
#

Your opener is a bit meh on kaz (didnt check other bosses) but it's not that important to do "perfect" opener on arms warrior

teal fossil
#

opener matters a bit more in these short fights

hazy flower
#

So I wouldn't worry about that one

teal fossil
#

but yeah in general openers isnt something to worry about

hazy flower
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Yeah they do but if the base rotation is flawed I wouldn't really worry about openers till other issues get fixed

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Also if you really want to parse

little nova
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Jebus....thank you all, seems I've got a fair bit to get baked into the ol' muscle memory 😅

hazy flower
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get trinkets that dont need time to pop off

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on these short fights

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icon is good, signet brand - not so (when it comes to short fights)

outer holly
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Speaking of openers, I have only peaked at like 2mil on the first pull AA group, how the hell did crit manage to break 5?

little nova
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I did have anvil but like, yeah because of the shorter fights I took it off

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Those 3 are all I have .-.

hazy flower
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iirc anvil better than brand

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on short fights

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but yeah if you want to improve that's not that important for now, I just wanted to point out one of the factors that's limiting your parses - gear

drifting widget
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anyone got a spell ID for MArtial Prowess? making a weak aura and having difficulty differentiatin between overpower and martial prowess

hallow turtle
teal fossil
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and crit is a known padder

rare kite
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aug and pi as well

outer holly
drifting widget
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i looked but couldnt find - ty

hazy flower
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maybe comp too, sp takes time to pop off

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destro usually eats all the lashers up

outer holly
hazy flower
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if you play with one

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fuckers spam 1 button and do 7m damage

outer holly
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spell id is hidden in there

outer holly
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still somehow won on the overall

hazy flower
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becaue he was shit

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probably

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but his uncapped damage

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does uncapped damage on 50 targets

outer holly
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holy fuck

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rain of fire op as hell, had no clue

drifting widget
boreal quartz
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so u dont rlly wanna loot at it anyways

teal fossil