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sheesh

I have leggo, both rings and 528 puzzle, what trinket would you choose for arms, OCE, WII or Augury? If I sim it, do I choose Dungeon Slice to get the best results? thx
Dance of Chiji is my favorite talent
Dance feels so damn good when it procs
all aboard!
always liked monk tbf, mained it several times. it just has an unfortunate history of being garbage
I only sim patchwerk 1 target 5m. if you are gonna play both arms and fury i would go augury, if not i would go OCE. WII has the problem that no tanks are gonna use it and several other classes want OCE
oh yeah for sure, WW finally eating good. it's like they finally have a developer that understands monk
Monk needs something that makes it unique to bring over something else
Feral has Mark
biggest problem with feral is that there is another druid dps spec and boomy is almost always decent
and boomy is a ranged spec
Biggest problem w feral is just that it's melee
You always wanna minimize melee for prog, and you need DH/enh/warr at minimum, DK and rogue historically have at least 1 of the 5 specs between them good, and so there's not a ton of room for it
What are they trying to do with Touch of Death?
Also doesn't really have a niche, like if execute for warr is good and execute phases are hard you'd just bring 2 warrs; feral had a small niche on shields this tier but that was only because boomie was god awful
It has thousands of talents rn
got murdered
in tww
i think
good
for aoe
but jdfs
is there still
for ST
but apparently not as relevant as this expac
just fire and forger every 30s
it's just some extra execute damage in st.
bolster dn
Guys whats the most most easy spec in mop timerunner, wanna get my girl into wow, but she no pc gamer yet 😄
its a fun time to discover the game
prob ret pala
haha fair point
its easy to swap char anyway
My gf made a tauren right out the gate had no idea how to feel
with easy lvling and all that
respected it tho
as long as it's male tauren that's fine
Oh it was
i hope for female dwarf
female Taurens are nightmare material
I was an orc from bfa to until about the end of shadowlands but switched to belf for the mogs


Wtf is meteor storm
remix
it's mop remix bullshittery, but the top damage is spinning crane kick. i fkn love spinning crane kick
tinker
Crane kick is so fun
why is roll better than torpedo
Pretty sure it’s preference
Wild strikes is so fun in Remix, suddenly shooting to max rage every 10 seconds during execute so you don't have to fill gcds with overpower is nice
So aoe is charge, warbreaker,avatar, bs and DR?

any new info these last days about the icon vs oce situation?
it's like drake vs kendrick
ayo
they are my favorite (i racechanged)
(male tauren animations are 🤢 )
female nelf
maghar look better
i love maghar but idk the og orc look is just cool to me
iirc they're the orcs from the alternative timeline, right?
so if oce is kendrick it means i should go with oce?
ok yeah checked and they're all from the alternative timeline from WoD
With fem!Thrall as their faction leader
Hi guys, this is my gear i have 46% haste and the simulation craft always tell me to get more haste
I did not saw any warrior with that much haste
I dont know what to do if i follow the simulation or nah
dont use stats weight
use topgear
and droptimizer
you are probably on the next little haste break point
im using topgear
I know, but why the simm always tell me to get more haste
on gems and enchants
becasue you are close to the next haste breakpoint
haste has many little break point
each time you are so close to the next one it wants just a little bit more
i guess that make sense

me when i spread misinformation on the internet
i'm not good at explaining stuff
but god damn it this guy just straight up spewing random shit like he know
when i only do random shit to figure things out
Hastecake advocating against haste or
wait did he fucking delete his message
sneaky weasel
@gray steeple dont you fucking weasel your way out of this one
if people wanna spread their misinformation
they better do some fucking groundwork first
and not pussy out after when called out
@gray steeple explain yourself now
i do mistake all the times but still have my fellow warrior enjoyer to correct my stupidity
but cowardice is not the warrior way
if you dont have Fyralath, Asscandy gonna be better
thats the only answer
you can use gear compare even at same ilvl the difference is clear
Critcake is the only one i would recommend
he zugzug good
and dont spread misinformation
didnt you just misbehave in other discord too ?
Who? 
this @vernal horizon guy
Do I miss drama all the time
i bumped on him dropping some shit DM on people
like really the mean kind of dm we dont want
so you think its ok to talk to people like this
because you disagree
do you dare repeat what you said
i think we should know what he said
i didnt even wanna know
i randomly jumped on this knowledge
not detective shit just dont wanna know
It has to be real bad
its worst than the cancer shit from last time
so you go apologize
i dont wanna meddle but fuck me from knowing somehow
no stfu

rare mandl catching strays in skyhold
they are everywhere
yes
you are not smart
chances are the theorycrafter of a class is in other class discords as well
gone
understandably so
Im 22, I will learn to write apl so u can zug zug grandppaww
wasn't that entertaining ngl
Does saeldur or someone have like apl tutorial on youtube or smth
i rmbr seeing something like that on twitter one day
love saledur
oh yeah also saw saeldur coded all mop remix gems to simc
so u can sim them if u know how to add them
i yoinked his APL more than once
https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/wiki/ActionLists is it this one?

so even me with my 18 years old CS degree can go back in
The wiki is real good
and understand wtf they talking about
I wonder how well I could understand it as somebody who 3d programs CNC operations
First time i rode 2 wheel i hit a lamp post man
If you understand !, <, >, all in combination with = you’re good
Which I hope you do with any programming knowledge
ye should be understandable enough
broke my arm and collarbone riding a bike when i was little, doesn't bode well for me
Only thing that gets messy is the million conditionals you can put on, which ppaww and I tend to overdo
it probably can translate better than you think
Ppaww more than me 
oh yeah clearly i'm overcooking
i love frying my eggs 3 times over
and then getting called out so i review my own line that i fucked up
Second coming of Sarri
legion.arms_revert=1
Hardly know’ er
Yes
yep
It’s already implemented
Saeldur provided us with the line to check the box
so you can use the raidbot checkbox for PI
he cooked it so nicely you wont miss a call on it
and it will call it perfectly if its possible on your timing
actions+=/invoke_external_buff,name=power_infusion,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&fight_remains>=135|(target.health.pct<35&talent.massacre|target.health.pct<20)&buff.avatar.up|fight_remains<=25
if you dare read the line
its a lot but its perfect
Mate does your pc just boot up GitHub and your messy text files on startup
So it calls for PI if CS is up and fight time is more than 135s or depending if massacre or not and avatar up and fight remaining equal or below 25s
Win11 can have a million open in tabs and keep them in memory
It’s the only good thing about 11
its 3 OR conditional
| means “or”
ahh ic
so it will call for PI if fight time equal or under 25s regardless of avatar or CS
if CS debuff UP and fight is more than 136 OR the massacre condition up and buff Avatar UP OR fight gonna ends in 26 seconds
its kinda easy to read once you know but long ass line are messy in the end
damn i missed the drama
The easiest way to actually start doing stuff with the apl is taking the ST build, removing the irrelevant lines and then just try moving lines up or down in priority

Although there’s more motivation to do something with it when PTR is rolling or a new build is being fleshed out
I started out doing SKS optimization
for next xpac we gonna have more brain power in there for APL so people can question and help us improve it
Ended up having it decently ahead of standard ST build
The biggest help is mostly just having people spitball ideas and try to implement them
and playing it on terros prog
we got the Execute curse because @ionic reef DM'ed me and we were talking about Arms
does blizzard think about the apl when cooking abilities or they just wing it and then you guys figure it out?
Blizzard has their own tools we just dont know how they do their cooking
We also tried out a mastery amount conditional for the execute thing. Deep Wounds snapshots the mastery bonus as long as deep wounds isn’t refreshed
Wallife had me test it out, but Ppaww ended up actually making a line that had it work
Nah, we used a wonky af “mastery=>6000” or some shit
I don’t even remember anymore as it wasn’t a dps increase
holy moly
That was specifically for Pips interaction and potential for pbox in s4
yeah it wasnt a real proper way to do it
but still got the results that i wouldnt work
It could be prettied but it was just to proof of concept it
isnt this technically apl bloat btw
going thru a 1 boss quick sim report
of the apl
isnt that to proc the interrupt damage amp
Yes and no. Used for casting patchwork
Does it work?
Yes @sacred zodiac
Last time i was seeing talk about it
interrupting didnt work
but idk if it works on the simc
That’s on the backend of simc, which I have no clue about
Arma and Archi are the ones doing that
its probably to trigger the 5% buff from the talent
It was oversimming last expac
With interrupts doing damage from niyas
That was actually quite relevant
Using CF (Crushing Force), if you slam at the wrong time, do you lose dps worth trying to cast it? Is it better to not run CF or casting slam at all? My sim always say to get CF...
it is minor gain to run CF
On a 5min fight, sims says i cast slam 17 times... I was wondering not going for CF, neither casting slam at all...
I saw a lot of ranks not using it
personally only using it as a last resort if i cnat literally press any other button
and i do not run CF
cuz fuck slam
there's probably 1-2 GCDs in a minute where I won't have anything to cast and would be better off spending that time on a slam, so you're spending 2 talent points on an ability that you rarely cast and adds <1k DPS
Honestly 1k is a massive overshoot
there is a slight optimization that should grant you no downtime
oh really?
its in #updates-midnight
its really niche and only if you really git gud gud
its this one
Hmm, already have a buff tracker, shouldn't be too hard to implement
Though I do still occasionally catch myself forgetting to reapply rend without our S3 bonus
Pedro lust goes hard
drops from raid if ur behind
also m+ end boxes i think
do we have still bullion catch up mechanic for raid drops? or getting 1 from this week too ?
idk s4 is dead to me
why lilbro
bit boring, no new raid. dungeons we have done before in the same expansion
Mop not doing the season any favours either
People rather play that over doing keys it seems
they brought back all the shit dungeons, no wonder people don't want to run them
yep
Dont ask me things
some of these gems are kinda nuts what the fuck
Can volatile sparks be dealt with through cleave damage at all? Or is it purely interrupt/silence type mechanics for the Rasz fight
10s cd tho which is big sadge
Only interrupt/silence
Storm Bolt helps too
Shockwave
tho i don't think you want to use shockwave at that fight
fear/kick
dont pick wave
haven't played arms in a while, do you open with rend/thunder clap first then pop all cd's? trying to find a breakdown of a normal opener
TC uses rage... so I tend to CS(
WB) first
more rage used quicker CS (WB) comes around
Uhhh rend
You’re not worried about rage spent in CS, you’re almost never ever going to have rage issues inside of CS window
In reality it doesn’t matter much
Your opener is hardly all that important
I'm still new to arms, don't have the leggo, just started this toon a week ago. It's sad that at a lower ilevel I'm competing with people parsing in the 90s yet I'm in the 70s even my ilevel parae is in the 70s. Oof, arms stonks must be up!
its sad?
when do you normally use your first axe cast? after avatar drops off?
which dragonflight buff you guys using for essence?
Haste
great call, fear worked amazingly
second, Rasz is the worst fucking fight I have ever
I am so glad I missed S1
rasz pretty fun for warrior, atleast on mythic
and arms really owns on that fight, good damage on the big add. bloodlust in execute
I have the stupid instinct of charging when pushed off.
never made it to the final phase
lol
tbf i may be biased as rasz was my first CE but i had a ton of fun
interrupting has worked in sims for a long time
kinda why I don't like casting patchwerk tbh, cause it just spam casts in a way that's not realistic; but tis what tis
agreed, idk why bloodmallet is still using it as default
doesn't really matter tbh, since we don't take that talent in the default profiles
ah i was referring to the embellishment boots that give bonus dmg dealt on a succesfull interrupt, i was being unclesr mb
interrupting worked, the boots were never implemented because they're a lot wonkier than they look on paper, and all practical testing indicated they were garbo anyway
hey guys, a question, im new to arms. in AOE situations do i only use bladestorm and whirlwip in warbreaker window?
like if bladestorm is up and warbreaker is still on cd?
always line bladestorm with warbreaker for massive bulk damage espically if the tank is pulling 2 to 3 packs .
whirlwind > overpower > cleave
with scaling being fucked what would be the best level as arms to go into pandaria raids? like so we dont have a fucked rotation
under the level breakpoints. Which I think are 50 and 65.
In MoP remix?
Yeah
Ngl warrior dps kinda bad 🤣 yet to break 110k and my warrior is 304 ilvl
Wouldn’t really care to touch raids until your 70, questing is the fastest leveling 🤷🏻♂️
If you really want to do raids or dungeons, probably around the 50-55mark you’ll have a “normal” rotation
Lmao Im lvl 30 and dudes maxxed out
👀
is this enough to do keys
Well what do other ppl do
dont think so you might wanna look at getting a different cloak or belt
In the normal MSV I ran, 130-160k
I was around 90-95k most of it 😂
Dungeons feels fine because of the Opportunist tinker pushing high crit/haste 🤷🏻♂️
Wrong race
nice pixels
😔 miss her
THATS WHAT IM SAYING TOO
there is too much push back at the return of her
Racials should be cosmetic only so HER can reemerge
racials should be cosmetic only except for HER so she can blast
you wouldnt get it.
Vulpera shit
Type shi
real HER?
REEEEEEEEAL?
on which slot we craft 100% permanent food buff thingy?
but we take sark back no?
neck and bracers are embelishments. rings are diurna and hp shield proc.
only left belt or boots. but i dont know if we can put foodbuff on them
bis dont craft it L bozo
craft it on cloak or boots if you care
does it matter where to craft linen silk. bracers or belt?
C{OAK????
BUT ME SARKA CLOAK!!!!!
m80!!!!
no
RAHH !!
idk how im gonna get tindral belt
maybe i go for a gaslighting operation to continue boosting fyrakk after all raids are awakened so we have to clear to it and i get my belt
Is there any cheese strat to go quick lv 70 in panda remix? 😄 I dont like q and scenarios anymore
Why did they patch out lfr xp 😄
whats the difference between armor patch on legs and stamina? i understand what stamina gives hp. but what exactly armor do?
Food buff?
Just have 826 feisty fish sticks in your bags… nothing else to fill them with (puzzle box doesn’t exist)
in terms of survivability
armor gives str from armored to the teeth talent
so minimal dps gain
Armed to the teeth
and vs physical hits
oh ty
when u get brez u cant eat. from this perspective ) or no time to eat during m+ run
or just lazy to eat after each wipe xD
I meeeaaan just don’t die 
Don’t think there is really a good slot for flavor pack apart from neck/cloak(if you don’t run sark)
I did BSL on boots as I had them crafted already in S3 (idk why?)
So just needed recraft for S4 😂
When use mortal strike instead of cleave in a dungeon ? 3 target max ?
if you're thinking from an m+ perspective just craft it on cloak
you are legit hard trolling if you're playing cloak in higher keys
and food buff doesnt matter in weekly 10s
anyone know the bronze bullion cap?
but u can cata sarka cloak
big 535 mast crit cloak 
holy moly
i thought u couldnt
u absolutely can
(ive not actually tried the awakened track one, but hero myth and dropped 535 can!)
do u have a ss cause i genuinely remember not being able to cata the s2 one
Im currently on a bus, so no!
i hope the bus drives to your stop
i will not pull out my laptop, connect to phone hotspot, start wow, fly to catalyst and then SS!
s2 cloak isnt catalyzable
Hi. What "buff" do I need again to WW in MT?
ok but it isn't s2
but u can cata s2 items
there fore i am gonna have to ask you to provide PROOF !!! when ur not busy
I think it's Wild Strikes, isn't it?
can you rephrase your question please it currently doesnt make much sense
I don't really know to be honest. I just remember someone on the DC explaining the multi target rotation and there was a condition before using whirlwind.
thats fury rotation no?
if you're using deswind's cook it should just be pressed on cd #updates-midnight message
Has anyone else noticed that Bloodletting is applying Rend from MS no matter the enemy's health percentage in remix?
When you say Deswind's cook, are you referring to a talent tree?
nah just his aoe optimization outlined in the message i linked to
ye its bugged in openworld
(i didnt)
Super-newbie question.
Should I ever pool rage for more priority abilities?
Real content @quasi torrent
get aid
Like, don't Thunder Clap (as spender) in Colossus window, to pool rage for WW
Or something like that
Or should I just go by priority strictly, "no rage for WW - push next button in list"?
why do u not have neck yet
gonna do raid today
only for MS to my understadning
but thats so rare anways
Let's imagine the situation. There is both Colossus and Rend debuffs on a boss, MS and OP are on cd. I have 40 rage.
What should I press - WW or TC? If I press TC, I may not ever get enough rage for WW in the Colossus window
Post "i just press buttons" meme
Got it, thanks
tc and send op next hloba
U get a fucking massive rage injection at the start of CS
global
how do u run out
cba afk
fr
That's just an example of conflicting priorities =-)
Got it ^_^
Getting massive EB resets during CS after having used WW have starved me once or twice
Suffering from success
1 melee crit noob
best class what can i say
Make war and ret
with mage and dh alive
made one too 
20 warriors is where its at
I made monk
alr have a monk so why care
War for raid, ret for m+
myrtspin is 15
im just suffering mens
Both for pvp
once I level this I'll be missing warlock
and I'll have all classes
not that I ever touched my druid
got it level boosted and didnt even set up talents on it
then just log out?
We can and I will still all of his tea
I can be there in ~2:30
I can be there in a lot longer than that
Unlagi!!!
cant
👁️👄👁️ where you bronze farm at
Ngl I spent about 50k on mounts so far…
That’s fair.
Have you ran any heroic raids yet?
Curious if they also only drop 346 gear..
I’m finding it hard to do the scenarios… getting thrown into triple dps and with the scaling… I just get slapped like a red headed step child
Mhm, wasn’t super enjoyable. I played prot for them and had no issues though, you can buy a 1h and shield and upgrade them
We just bought alkohol
I will offer you a cup of tea though
im doing mop remix - is fury or arms better for lveling?
Fury kinda dookie not gonna lie 😂 every warrior I’ve seen has been arms
wowhead doesnt mention casting ww with storm of swords here
where does it take priority? after MS and TC? before overpower?
you didnt click on the talent
lmao no i didnt
"Select desired talents"
on raidbots what are arms wars using to sim for M+?
how can i make torch channel non interruptable? coz i made macro /mortal strike /cast grieftirch. and when i spam it . it stop casting after 0.1 sec
I found on my hunter that torch channel is interrupted by any other ability press, but if you use Torch by itself, it’s not interrupted by moving or anything, so I just manually press it when damage/main stat/crit is high, and it does like 5% of my total damage
hectic add cleave or dungeon slice?
grieftorch modified by our crit or mainstat?
Grieftorch can crit. This, I heard, is why it’s heavily recommended for havoc DH who runs massive crit buff
Not sure how that translates to Arms warr though. I’m still studying the class
Nice teef
Try [nochannel] in ur macro
Normal? Heroic?
is there a WA in remix that lets you swap around gems easier?
grieftorch is on the GCD now, right? So that macro is never gonna work right
best you could do is a cast sequence like Anvil's, but I'm not sure how long Grieftorch's GCD is offhand
/castsequence reset=0.7 Mortal Strike, Elementium Pocket Anvil```
Remix is pretty new I doubt anything that advanced has been made
it's ok for us
nothing special
anvil works just fine. with mortal strike. i just spam mortal strike and anvil activating without problems. but torch on macros tend to stop casting. coz in the heat of battle i spam buttons and naturally any macro with torch just ruin it ((
I mean grief is a 2s interruptible channel that is on the gcd
You dont want to macro anything to it
None of your cds affect it in any way
I know anvil works, which is why I made the macro for it, what I said was that I don’t think torch will, due to the new GCD
btw i did simple macro with /cast ms /cast anvil. ur castsequence do what?
Cast sequence always casts them in order to not interrupt your GCD
Knowledge right there
guys if your maxxed on characters do you get extra char slot with remix character/characters?
Had no clue
btw any way to macro cleave with something i spam anyway in dungs? like ww or clap or op. i wana save buttons and i just want cleave to be casted if i spam ww clap op. possible?
no
you cant have a macro with multiple buttons solving a priority list for you
and if i dont care about priority,, why no solutions for people like me from blizzards end(((
is wowanalyzer worth using
i doubt my perfomance will decrease if i cast ww then cleave or cleave then ww (
i mean you do care about priority if you want to press buttons but they should press something instead if you press it
not maintained afaik
unless i misunderstand what exactly you want here
Thats what I suspected
ye i understand. but iam run out of comfortable buttons. and i dont like being forced to make piano style
i mean yea i understand but then you'll just have to accept the price of just not playing optimally or take a look at your keybinds and what you use
most of us use the buttons around WASD, 1-5, mouse buttons, sometimes shift and ctrl modifiers for keybinds and we always manage to fit everything
without the cast sequence in the macro it can delay your gcd, sucks real bad
i did fit everything. i use all mouse buttons and around WASD too. and two alt modified buttons. but its starting to get complicated to press in m+
i found m+ rotation so hard in season4))
like 16 different abilities..
or more with saves and interupts
its just 5 no and you press one of them only against priority targets
i get the sentiment of fluctuating target counts making it a bit hard to know what to press but that just comes with learning the dungeons and understanding your spec
the solution is just dont hit those buttons
if you don’t care about being optional it shouldn’t matter anyway
Mmo mouse may be worth the investment if you enjoy the game and are looking for more comfort and options for button pushes
You may be giving up some mouse accuracy (selecting targets mid rotation) with it but it could be worth the tradeoff
It’s either use more modifiers, combine things into macros or just not use them
just a quick question. i only do mythics. You sim yourself in single target build? or m+?
For builds that varies between affixes
But usually aoe m+ build
ok thx, i simmed it both and it's not that big difference so
can i macro remix cogwheel gems?
this is fucked up
I just click the icons with my mouse. Works fine and I’m not limited because I can just click every single button.
sorry to hear that
That’s a perfect response. So beyond help that all someone can do is say “I’m sorry, hope it gets better.”
no but unironically if it is perfect for you then why not
Idk it doesn’t work for me?
Every time I press it it just says [@cursor] in party chat and doesn’t do anything?
Can you check my macro
How do I best determine which gems I should socket on my gear?
Seek help

😫
lmao
💀
Check wow head icyveins they have guides for bis gems
ty
Swear I looked for it but missed it like 5 times
Yeah it's just part of the dragon flight class guides on wow head
best way to farm bronze?
play wow remix
Remix gems -> whatever you want.
You get so many stats eventually and through buffs
when is best time to use puzzle box? new to arms XD im guessing on pre-pull?
2-3 seconds prepull then charge
where buy remix items?
i want it all
how much total i need?
what about in M+?
For every item and the ensembles? Like 4mil
that is so mean
if you want all mounts a LOT
how much
but "just" tusks and heirlooms its about 60 garrosh currency
For m+ use it before your major cds mainly being avatar
When tank is gathering you can carefully put up some thunder claps and cleaves then once everything is set use puzzle and blast
yea puzzle box is like a 1.5 cast time nothing crazy like font or anything of that nature. Very feasible to pop it right before you get into huge packs
800k? no way, it took me 12 hours to famr 15k
One tip is that you can also use puzzle before the key is entered. If you are going to hit mobs right away and you are doing a countdown use puzzle before key is entered. You'll get the buff and the cd will reset (like prepotting)
@boreal quartz liar !!!!
you know you have 95 days for this shit right
thats 800 hours
just to farm thjis shit
too much
im not chinease gold farmer
or just do frogs
if you buy absolutely everything
selber
what frog?
what frog, and how do u farm bronze when u get max level?
timeless isles you spamkill the frogs
for the charms and turn them in for rep
which gives u bronze
how much?
its max level content?
yea max level
how do you even get marked as a likely spammer thats so funny
ikr
new account
Had to check who I had blocked
He is still amongus
and roni- raven?
he has only said bannable shit like once so its fine
SODAX DESERVES REDEMPTION
17 paragraphs, 20% slam buff
Where is soda btw?
banned since a year
Refrigerator
Well im the hole still so i cant really own a refrigerator
Shit i kinda want a soda, coke pref
I'm diabolic too.
Im anabolic
@boreal quartz how good is frogs for bronzew
All shall farm frogs
someone talk some sense into me
i cant decide if my timerunner hunter should be orc or troll
i should play monk in mop remix

troll
funny lanky man
i think ive decided orc hunter but i should make a troll shaman after
hunters are inherently boot-coded and trolls cant wear boots
fair
Without Fyrakk is diurnas chosen worth?
HEAD ENCHANT PROCS ITDS
sorry caps
also SF embellsionments, and I think a passive arms talenets does in aoe
I see, tyty
Warrior has no inherent way to proc the rings, they need external sources
I was really questioning myself for a moment there
Anyone else have the problem where they cant buy Prepatch war within
damn, out voted by matt damon
yo, anyone got jewelcrafting? i got game silence and need a jewelcrafter to craft me a gem :>
US servers
I was going to but unsure if I’ll play enough for the achievement to unlock all armor types on a toon. So doing it on warrior first.
Do we use cleave in ST before slam?
assuming nothing else is available, ofc
and im assuming cleave is used in 3+ targets / when no sweeping strikes for 2 target
*used in priority over MS, that is
without slam talents cleave does more than slam, but slam also eat your martial prowess stacks
So like technically yes, but that's a lot of buff tracking for next to zero gain
If you don't press slam you're losing like... 0.1-2% DPS?
this is not pressing slam over what?
or just not pressing anything and saving the rage for more important stuff?
That's with a CF build that talents in to slam damage, which then prioritizes slam over TC in ST
what's CF pardon
But the alternative to not pressing slam is pressing absolutely nothing with an empty gcd
crushing force
gotcha
okay thanks
so basically unless im a real sweat i dont need to worry about pressing slam at all
and cleave takes slight priority in ST?
Personally I have it keybound because empty gcds just standing there auto attacking the boss feels bad
yeah i've got it bound #
don't even bother considering using cleave in ST, it's the same argument for slam
Cleave will eat your buffs from OP losing you DPS by lowering your MS damage
so you really have to watch your buffs, for what is a 4,000 damage difference
nice thanks
this is all in mop remix anyway lol but its good to know
im enjoying arms a lot
Oh, I doubt the balance is there for literally any of this to matter then
zug zug and collect bronze
its just fun knowing like
any nice ppl can create a macro where i can use Whirlwind when Overpower is not avaible? So after i used my 2 stack of overpower i go with Mortal strike then if nothing is up i want to cast Whirlwind .....Yes i am a clicker so it will help me a lot
#showtooltip
/cast Overpower
/cast Whirlwind is not working
You can't apply logic like that to macros, where it uses one if the other isn't available
It will keep trying to use Overpower, regardless of it being available or not, and will never use Whirlwind
The only workaround would be castsequences, but they have their own limitations and aren't recommended either for rotations
Thanks for the clarification 😄
When u need to use the raidboots optmize as arms for m+ aoe build what segment arms uses : Patchwwerk 5 bosses or 1boss for the 5 min ? or Daungeon Slice ?
Just Patchwerk 5 min 1 target for basically everything
There are small optimisations you could theoretically make for AoE, but generally speaking whatever sims best in an ST scenario, will be nearly as good in an AoE scenario
And your stat spread being hyper optimised is never going to be what makes you time a key or not
trinkets being the exception
Trinkets are an exception yes
Use some of your own thinking, and look around to see what other people use
well i was lucky and i got a box and i have the augury from bullion vendor
But generally for keys you'd want to use Puzzle Box + OCE/Icon (depending on group) or Pips
I personally wouldn't bother buying Augury as an Arms player, but if you intend on playing Fury as well, or more, then it's a fine purchase
well i wach Critcake but he is not a clicker like me 😦
well i played fury always but now i want to try arms
i hear u
i am 2840 😄
Augury is somewhat on my list, still like a month out until I can get ashk and aug for fury spec, hoping in that time a few more positive fury adjustments
noob
i saw what happened in your discord today..
RIGGED
ok but what was ur point
thanks for the replays
u made it for me?
i dont get it
don-t quit u just need to press more and harder 😄 that-s the trick
https://raider.io/characters/eu/draenor/Frencky u just need to find a realm where are not a lot of active fury warriors ar arms so u can be on chart
does ashkandur trigger seal of diruanas?
The helm ench and legendary triggers the diurna ring
yes
is merciless bonegrinder ever worth taking over executioners precision for fort keys with a lot of aoe
like AA or maybe BH
I mean
seems like a reasonable aoe increase but no EP feels gross in ST
are you running doubble bs?
if I took it yes
no bc even in aa and bracky, you still need st damage
only hard part of aa is the bosses
only hard part in bracky is totems
I was kind of leaning this direction, it would basically be pad unless you're pulling huge
massively ethical
no cleave in sight
wait why is it breakdown of only last few pulls
I pressed cleave like 15 times whole dungeon anyway
Should I only use Mortal strike with 2 overpower buffs, or is it better to just get Mortal strike on CD as fast as possible?
get it on cd, martial prowess has no impact on our rotation (edit: in st only, you can somewhat cook in aoe but it doesnt really matter)
great ty!
Anyone know the string to add to your sim for the OCE secondaries?
^
sweet thanks
@halcyon breach
@halcyon breach
Hey. I'm playing Arms right now but I'm willing to try Fury later. What craft items suit both specs well? Allied Wristguard of Companionship + Primal Molten Sabatons? Or Arms benefits greatly from BSL neck so I should go neck + vers wrists?
ruby
had 13 casts of cleave
checked on logs
ethical gamer
10 casts of cleave first pull, 3 whole dungeon
damn
too ethical 4 me
i saw several divine storms being cast when AA tree boss was at 3% earlier
my group is not ethical like you
i'll throw a roar at that boss health too 
we did a big AV20 earlier though
the leaderboard looks silly, full of aug mage sp
Yeah, big funnel
does mortal strike have any way to apply rend above 35% hp? it seems to happen quite often for me, but i'm unaware of any interaction that causes that
If you're sweeping from a mob below 35%, it'll apply onto the second target regardless of health.
that makes sense
but i mean on my opening ms, its especially apparent on mop remix, but i have seen it on retail as well
Could be an open world bug or something jank
I think if your MS reduces the mob below 35%, it'll apply
that's probably what you're seeing
but i see happen on my first ms on mobs that dont even go near 35%
I've never ever seen that
ethical or not we wiped later anyway
deadge
idk not too keen on pushing this season
I just dont feel it
been gearing my mage recently to try something new and play high keys from different perspective but my warrior is pretty much dusted whole season
believe it's been bugged a while - MS sometimes applies rend to targets above 35% in the open world
i havent played remix yet but assume its the same there
wish i could enjoy mage, super jealous of those that do. mage is always insanely good
its really egregious in remix, it happens nearly every time
i'll take the free global, i just wasn't sure if i was missing something
its fun on bosses like leymor
u dont even know how
u just demolish the adds
but its not fun in pug keys where you have terrorists doing weird pulls and group wiping
and your 7 stacks of skb goes to shit
because tank has to take a break to stretch his bones before every boss
mage is kinda of a melee caster
u need to stay in melee
its a literal dps loss to be far away
maybe thats why I enjoy it so much (and well the pretty fast paced gameplay that it can be)
yea db and blastwave
nah not even that
ye same, played spriest in castle nathria tho and that wasn't bad. to be fair they were also broken af. caster in m+ is a slog tho... so boring
thats just ccs
prolly something with projectile speed too
yep
gets a bit annoying when u're far away
idk what to do do I send other spell or do I just have this yuge gap in my rotation
so I just cosplay warrior
and sit up mobs ass
Volocross as fire mage 
only 3 mil dmg in non-crit mortal strikes on terros 
Big worm bosses always go wrong
this tier is gr8
Big strikes
or terros
i think there is
some ret tech
as well on volc
cause of judgement
Legion SM*priest on Xavius was 👑
if i dont do the weekly campaign quest that gives the splinters, will i get it as a drop the following week?
Just starting arms. It's sad you can't just use Bullions to "buy" legendary instead of still having to farm for the drop.

we love remix XD
Yess
I need more crit though
Specifically was going for 100% mastery for 100% crit blocks 🤷♂️
okay what build y'all running in remix. 😄



