#arms

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steep osprey
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It's Shado Pan monastery

thick kelp
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ALready ahead of you

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my ww is 520 ilvl

steep osprey
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sheesh

thick kelp
weary leaf
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I have leggo, both rings and 528 puzzle, what trinket would you choose for arms, OCE, WII or Augury? If I sim it, do I choose Dungeon Slice to get the best results? thx

steep osprey
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Dance of Chiji is my favorite talent

wicked aurora
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Dance feels so damn good when it procs

rare kite
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all aboard!

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always liked monk tbf, mained it several times. it just has an unfortunate history of being garbage

rare kite
gaunt owl
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monk WW is clearly the most forgotten melee DPS

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even Feral is mentionned more often

rare kite
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oh yeah for sure, WW finally eating good. it's like they finally have a developer that understands monk

steep osprey
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Monk needs something that makes it unique to bring over something else

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Feral has Mark

thick kelp
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idk feral is fucking joever

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in terms of hero talents

steep osprey
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Feral seems fine

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claw one

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is ok

rare kite
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and boomy is a ranged spec

violet steeple
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Biggest problem w feral is just that it's melee

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You always wanna minimize melee for prog, and you need DH/enh/warr at minimum, DK and rogue historically have at least 1 of the 5 specs between them good, and so there's not a ton of room for it

steep osprey
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What are they trying to do with Touch of Death?

violet steeple
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Also doesn't really have a niche, like if execute for warr is good and execute phases are hard you'd just bring 2 warrs; feral had a small niche on shields this tier but that was only because boomie was god awful

steep osprey
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It has thousands of talents rn

thick kelp
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in tww

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i think

steep osprey
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good

thick kelp
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for aoe

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but jdfs

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is there still

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for ST

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but apparently not as relevant as this expac

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just fire and forger every 30s

rare kite
olive nest
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Encourage bolstering

steep osprey
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bolster dn

rare kite
thick kelp
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is fatal flying gullotine

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gone?

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that was the

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cancer aoe tod

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talent

rare kite
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yes

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thank fuck

coarse glade
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Guys whats the most most easy spec in mop timerunner, wanna get my girl into wow, but she no pc gamer yet 😄

gaunt owl
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its a fun time to discover the game

timber lynx
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Tell her to pick the prettiest one

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and go from there

coarse glade
gaunt owl
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its easy to swap char anyway

timber lynx
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My gf made a tauren right out the gate had no idea how to feel

gaunt owl
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with easy lvling and all that

timber lynx
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respected it tho

rare kite
timber lynx
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Oh it was

coarse glade
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i hope for female dwarf

timber lynx
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female Taurens are nightmare material

rare kite
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my warrior was tauren from legion til aberrus

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still not used to being dwarf ngl

timber lynx
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I was an orc from bfa to until about the end of shadowlands but switched to belf for the mogs

steep osprey
rare kite
timber lynx
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Wtf is meteor storm

steep osprey
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remix

timber lynx
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Ahh

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Oh yeah meta gem probably

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or somethin

rare kite
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it's mop remix bullshittery, but the top damage is spinning crane kick. i fkn love spinning crane kick

steep osprey
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tinker

timber lynx
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Crane kick is so fun

steep osprey
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why is roll better than torpedo

wicked aurora
steep osprey
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monk is so fast here lmao

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i have 4 charges of roll

muted token
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Wild strikes is so fun in Remix, suddenly shooting to max rage every 10 seconds during execute so you don't have to fill gcds with overpower is nice

gaunt owl
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how are you here again ?

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did you get cooking lesson since then

thick kelp
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Lost the test

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gg

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femme roidsack

summer elbow
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So aoe is charge, warbreaker,avatar, bs and DR?

opal folio
gaunt owl
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but did you start seasoning your chicken

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i wanna see your cooking journey now

thick kelp
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what bootcamp

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are u on one of those

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alphamale bootcamps or what

simple wren
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any new info these last days about the icon vs oce situation?

outer holly
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they both continue to exist

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news at 9

left talon
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it's like drake vs kendrick

latent moss
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they are my favorite (i racechanged)

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(male tauren animations are 🤢 )

timber lynx
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female orc is where its at

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no cap

latent moss
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female nelf

timber lynx
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esp for rogue they're underrated

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looks so good in stealth

latent moss
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maghar look better

timber lynx
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i love maghar but idk the og orc look is just cool to me

latent moss
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uhm

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akshually

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maghar orcs are the og orcs 🤓

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(i think)

timber lynx
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😂

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i have no idea tbh

dire hinge
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iirc they're the orcs from the alternative timeline, right?

latent moss
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they are orcs

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pre corruption

simple wren
dire hinge
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ok yeah checked and they're all from the alternative timeline from WoD

strange perch
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With fem!Thrall as their faction leader

gaunt owl
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its a fake Roidstack

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ban him

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he was never knowledgeable

wary raft
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holy roidstack is back

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welcome back 🙂

midnight reef
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Hi guys, this is my gear i have 46% haste and the simulation craft always tell me to get more haste

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I did not saw any warrior with that much haste

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I dont know what to do if i follow the simulation or nah

gaunt owl
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use topgear

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and droptimizer

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you are probably on the next little haste break point

midnight reef
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I know, but why the simm always tell me to get more haste

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on gems and enchants

gaunt owl
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becasue you are close to the next haste breakpoint

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haste has many little break point

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each time you are so close to the next one it wants just a little bit more

midnight reef
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i guess that make sense

gaunt owl
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NO

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thats not like this

ivory quartz
sacred zodiac
gaunt owl
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i'm not good at explaining stuff

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but god damn it this guy just straight up spewing random shit like he know

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when i only do random shit to figure things out

astral yarrow
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Hastecake advocating against haste or

gaunt owl
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wait did he fucking delete his message

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sneaky weasel

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@gray steeple dont you fucking weasel your way out of this one

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if people wanna spread their misinformation

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they better do some fucking groundwork first

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and not pussy out after when called out

sacred zodiac
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@gray steeple explain yourself now

gaunt owl
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i do mistake all the times but still have my fellow warrior enjoyer to correct my stupidity

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but cowardice is not the warrior way

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if you dont have Fyralath, Asscandy gonna be better

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thats the only answer

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you can use gear compare even at same ilvl the difference is clear

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Critcake is the only one i would recommend

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he zugzug good

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and dont spread misinformation

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didnt you just misbehave in other discord too ?

astral yarrow
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Who? dandy

gaunt owl
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this @vernal horizon guy

astral yarrow
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Do I miss drama all the time

gaunt owl
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i bumped on him dropping some shit DM on people

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like really the mean kind of dm we dont want

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so you think its ok to talk to people like this

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because you disagree

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do you dare repeat what you said

sacred zodiac
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i think we should know what he said

gaunt owl
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i didnt even wanna know

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i randomly jumped on this knowledge

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not detective shit just dont wanna know

rare kite
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It has to be real bad

gaunt owl
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its worst than the cancer shit from last time

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so you go apologize

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i dont wanna meddle but fuck me from knowing somehow

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no stfu

astral yarrow
gaunt owl
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i only got your stupid pfp with all nickname blacklined

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and you pop up here

astral yarrow
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Wait did he trash arma or mandl? deadge

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Hecking love mandl

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Giga guy honestly

thick kelp
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rare mandl catching strays in skyhold

gaunt owl
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they are everywhere

thick kelp
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yes

gaunt owl
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you are not smart

rare kite
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chances are the theorycrafter of a class is in other class discords as well

gaunt owl
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people are so stupid

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i cant even

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i'm not smart

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but they have 0 social skill

thick kelp
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ppaww is big dummy

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he anti sandbags arms apl

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aw late banned him

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: (

sacred zodiac
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gone

rare kite
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understandably so

gaunt owl
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man i wanna be just a zugzug

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knowledge is gonna fry my old brain

thick kelp
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Im 22, I will learn to write apl so u can zug zug grandppaww

olive nest
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Damn missed drama

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Free entertainment loss

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Oof

gaunt owl
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i can help you write APL

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we need brain power to think outside the box anyway

rare kite
thick kelp
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i rmbr seeing something like that on twitter one day

sacred zodiac
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love saledur

gaunt owl
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you have the APL wiki too

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Saeldur is the king of APL probably

thick kelp
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oh yeah also saw saeldur coded all mop remix gems to simc

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so u can sim them if u know how to add them

gaunt owl
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i yoinked his APL more than once

ivory quartz
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new sims prove puzzlebox was bugged and rumbling ruby is actually bis

thick kelp
gaunt owl
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yes

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the great thing about simc is that its properly github

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you have wiki and shit

thick kelp
gaunt owl
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so even me with my 18 years old CS degree can go back in

astral yarrow
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The wiki is real good

gaunt owl
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and understand wtf they talking about

thick kelp
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lets see from minimal coding background

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from vocational school

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if i can understand

gaunt owl
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you probably could too

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its like riding a bycicle

olive nest
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I wonder how well I could understand it as somebody who 3d programs CNC operations

thick kelp
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First time i rode 2 wheel i hit a lamp post man

olive nest
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I feel like it’s probably completely different

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In all aspects

astral yarrow
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If you understand !, <, >, all in combination with = you’re good

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Which I hope you do with any programming knowledge

thick kelp
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ye should be understandable enough

rare kite
astral yarrow
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Only thing that gets messy is the million conditionals you can put on, which ppaww and I tend to overdo

gaunt owl
astral yarrow
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Ppaww more than me ratge

gaunt owl
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oh yeah clearly i'm overcooking

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i love frying my eggs 3 times over

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and then getting called out so i review my own line that i fucked up

astral yarrow
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Second coming of Sarri

ivory quartz
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i fucking love our APLs conditionals

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keep it up boys

olive nest
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legion.arms_revert=1

astral yarrow
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Hardly know’ er

olive nest
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I’m doing it!!!

astral yarrow
gaunt owl
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oh yeah thats a good line

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i approve

thick kelp
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Got to the most important part

gaunt owl
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yep

astral yarrow
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It’s already implemented

gaunt owl
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Saeldur provided us with the line to check the box

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so you can use the raidbot checkbox for PI

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he cooked it so nicely you wont miss a call on it

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and it will call it perfectly if its possible on your timing

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actions+=/invoke_external_buff,name=power_infusion,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&fight_remains>=135|(target.health.pct<35&talent.massacre|target.health.pct<20)&buff.avatar.up|fight_remains<=25

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if you dare read the line

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its a lot but its perfect

olive nest
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It calls for pi below 35%

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Ez

astral yarrow
thick kelp
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So it calls for PI if CS is up and fight time is more than 135s or depending if massacre or not and avatar up and fight remaining equal or below 25s

gaunt owl
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i have 10 .txt files on my pc

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so i check and know where they are

astral yarrow
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Win11 can have a million open in tabs and keep them in memory

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It’s the only good thing about 11

gaunt owl
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its 3 OR conditional

astral yarrow
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| means “or”

thick kelp
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ahh ic

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so it will call for PI if fight time equal or under 25s regardless of avatar or CS

gaunt owl
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if CS debuff UP and fight is more than 136 OR the massacre condition up and buff Avatar UP OR fight gonna ends in 26 seconds

thick kelp
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ic ic

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Intresting

gaunt owl
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its kinda easy to read once you know but long ass line are messy in the end

somber lance
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damn i missed the drama

astral yarrow
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The easiest way to actually start doing stuff with the apl is taking the ST build, removing the irrelevant lines and then just try moving lines up or down in priority

thick kelp
astral yarrow
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Although there’s more motivation to do something with it when PTR is rolling or a new build is being fleshed out

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I started out doing SKS optimization

gaunt owl
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for next xpac we gonna have more brain power in there for APL so people can question and help us improve it

astral yarrow
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Ended up having it decently ahead of standard ST build

thick kelp
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i rmbr following

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that cook

astral yarrow
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The biggest help is mostly just having people spitball ideas and try to implement them

thick kelp
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and playing it on terros prog

gaunt owl
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we got the Execute curse because @ionic reef DM'ed me and we were talking about Arms

somber lance
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does blizzard think about the apl when cooking abilities or they just wing it and then you guys figure it out?

gaunt owl
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Blizzard has their own tools we just dont know how they do their cooking

astral yarrow
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We also tried out a mastery amount conditional for the execute thing. Deep Wounds snapshots the mastery bonus as long as deep wounds isn’t refreshed

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Wallife had me test it out, but Ppaww ended up actually making a line that had it work

thick kelp
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so u were using the snapshot_stats

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at different mastery values

astral yarrow
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Nah, we used a wonky af “mastery=>6000” or some shit

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I don’t even remember anymore as it wasn’t a dps increase

thick kelp
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holy moly

astral yarrow
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That was specifically for Pips interaction and potential for pbox in s4

gaunt owl
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yeah it wasnt a real proper way to do it

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but still got the results that i wouldnt work

astral yarrow
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It could be prettied but it was just to proof of concept it

thick kelp
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isnt this technically apl bloat btw

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going thru a 1 boss quick sim report

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of the apl

sacred zodiac
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isnt that to proc the interrupt damage amp

astral yarrow
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Yes and no. Used for casting patchwork

thick kelp
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Does it work?

astral yarrow
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Yes @sacred zodiac

thick kelp
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Last time i was seeing talk about it

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interrupting didnt work

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but idk if it works on the simc

astral yarrow
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That’s on the backend of simc, which I have no clue about

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Arma and Archi are the ones doing that

gaunt owl
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its probably to trigger the 5% buff from the talent

thick kelp
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ah could be that too

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indeed

gaunt owl
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i never even catched that line

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as it was always there and pretty much set in stone

teal fossil
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It was oversimming last expac

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With interrupts doing damage from niyas

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That was actually quite relevant

thick kelp
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hmm

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Atleast reading the prio list from a sim report

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seems understandable

hollow axle
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Using CF (Crushing Force), if you slam at the wrong time, do you lose dps worth trying to cast it? Is it better to not run CF or casting slam at all? My sim always say to get CF...

thick kelp
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it is minor gain to run CF

hollow axle
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On a 5min fight, sims says i cast slam 17 times... I was wondering not going for CF, neither casting slam at all...

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I saw a lot of ranks not using it

thick kelp
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personally only using it as a last resort if i cnat literally press any other button

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and i do not run CF

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cuz fuck slam

hollow axle
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hmm

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i see

outer holly
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there's probably 1-2 GCDs in a minute where I won't have anything to cast and would be better off spending that time on a slam, so you're spending 2 talent points on an ability that you rarely cast and adds <1k DPS

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Honestly 1k is a massive overshoot

gaunt owl
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there is a slight optimization that should grant you no downtime

outer holly
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oh really?

gaunt owl
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its really niche and only if you really git gud gud

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its this one

outer holly
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Hmm, already have a buff tracker, shouldn't be too hard to implement

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Though I do still occasionally catch myself forgetting to reapply rend without our S3 bonus

gaunt owl
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sometimes old habit dies hard

wicked aurora
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Pedro lust goes hard

maiden notch
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is there a way to catch up on the weekly spark thing?

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i think i missed out on one

inner wasp
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also m+ end boxes i think

nova mortar
inner wasp
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idk s4 is dead to me

nova mortar
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why lilbro

rare kite
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bit boring, no new raid. dungeons we have done before in the same expansion

opal folio
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Mop not doing the season any favours either

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People rather play that over doing keys it seems

fresh tide
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they brought back all the shit dungeons, no wonder people don't want to run them

latent moss
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yep

tough steppe
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some of these gems are kinda nuts what the fuck

outer holly
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Can volatile sparks be dealt with through cleave damage at all? Or is it purely interrupt/silence type mechanics for the Rasz fight

scarlet wren
tough steppe
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Only interrupt/silence

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Storm Bolt helps too

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Shockwave

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tho i don't think you want to use shockwave at that fight

fresh tide
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interrupt/silence/dispel

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Arcane torrent is up for every other set I think

static moss
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haven't played arms in a while, do you open with rend/thunder clap first then pop all cd's? trying to find a breakdown of a normal opener

frigid lava
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TC uses rage... so I tend to CS(

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WB) first

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more rage used quicker CS (WB) comes around

wicked aurora
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Uhhh rend

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You’re not worried about rage spent in CS, you’re almost never ever going to have rage issues inside of CS window

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In reality it doesn’t matter much

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Your opener is hardly all that important

trim niche
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I'm still new to arms, don't have the leggo, just started this toon a week ago. It's sad that at a lower ilevel I'm competing with people parsing in the 90s yet I'm in the 70s even my ilevel parae is in the 70s. Oof, arms stonks must be up!

manic stirrup
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its sad?

static moss
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when do you normally use your first axe cast? after avatar drops off?

frigid lava
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I use it when I have avatar+cs+hurricane

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and possibly tier (set4) effect too

viscid oasis
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which dragonflight buff you guys using for essence?

frigid lava
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Haste

outer holly
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second, Rasz is the worst fucking fight I have ever

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I am so glad I missed S1

rare kite
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and arms really owns on that fight, good damage on the big add. bloodlust in execute

frigid lava
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I have the stupid instinct of charging when pushed off.

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never made it to the final phase

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lol

rare kite
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tbf i may be biased as rasz was my first CE but i had a ton of fun

smoky kayak
smoky kayak
teal fossil
smoky kayak
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doesn't really matter tbh, since we don't take that talent in the default profiles

thick kelp
smoky kayak
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interrupting worked, the boots were never implemented because they're a lot wonkier than they look on paper, and all practical testing indicated they were garbo anyway

tribal sail
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hey guys, a question, im new to arms. in AOE situations do i only use bladestorm and whirlwip in warbreaker window?
like if bladestorm is up and warbreaker is still on cd?

steady plover
open aspen
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with scaling being fucked what would be the best level as arms to go into pandaria raids? like so we dont have a fucked rotation

grand idol
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under the level breakpoints. Which I think are 50 and 65.

tough steppe
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ngl prot is kinda busted

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with the correct gems

open aspen
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Yeah

fossil thistle
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Ngl warrior dps kinda bad 🤣 yet to break 110k and my warrior is 304 ilvl

Wouldn’t really care to touch raids until your 70, questing is the fastest leveling 🤷🏻‍♂️

If you really want to do raids or dungeons, probably around the 50-55mark you’ll have a “normal” rotation

clever crag
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Lmao Im lvl 30 and dudes maxxed out

fossil thistle
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👀

dawn stag
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is this enough to do keys

sacred zodiac
fossil thistle
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I was around 90-95k most of it 😂

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Dungeons feels fine because of the Opportunist tinker pushing high crit/haste 🤷🏻‍♂️

boreal quartz
steep osprey
boreal quartz
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😔 miss her

dawn stag
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there is too much push back at the return of her

boreal quartz
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Racials should be cosmetic only so HER can reemerge

dawn stag
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racials should be cosmetic only except for HER so she can blast

boreal quartz
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Her doesnt need racials

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It will bag of tricks for 2 bazillion damage

opal folio
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What is this furry propaganda

dawn stag
granite basin
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Vulpera shit

boreal quartz
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Type shi

quasi torrent
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REEEEEEEEAL?

lost kernel
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on which slot we craft 100% permanent food buff thingy?

granite basin
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Neck prolly

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Or rings

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Neck, since both rings have specials

somber lance
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foodbuff back next week

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thank the lord

lost kernel
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but we take sark back no?

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neck and bracers are embelishments. rings are diurna and hp shield proc.

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only left belt or boots. but i dont know if we can put foodbuff on them

granite basin
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Check it

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Pretty sure u can

sacred zodiac
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craft it on cloak or boots if you care

lost kernel
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does it matter where to craft linen silk. bracers or belt?

quasi torrent
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m80!!!!

sacred zodiac
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idk how im gonna get tindral belt

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maybe i go for a gaslighting operation to continue boosting fyrakk after all raids are awakened so we have to clear to it and i get my belt

quasi torrent
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surely u do that anyhow

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itll be worthwhile gold

coarse glade
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Is there any cheese strat to go quick lv 70 in panda remix? 😄 I dont like q and scenarios anymore

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Why did they patch out lfr xp 😄

lost kernel
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whats the difference between armor patch on legs and stamina? i understand what stamina gives hp. but what exactly armor do?

fossil thistle
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Food buff?
Just have 826 feisty fish sticks in your bags… nothing else to fill them with (puzzle box doesn’t exist)

lost kernel
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in terms of survivability

boreal quartz
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so minimal dps gain

boreal quartz
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and vs physical hits

lost kernel
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oh ty

lost kernel
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or just lazy to eat after each wipe xD

fossil thistle
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I meeeaaan just don’t die keks

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Don’t think there is really a good slot for flavor pack apart from neck/cloak(if you don’t run sark)

hazy flower
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Neck for bsl

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Ideally

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Since u have 2 rings with bullions

fossil thistle
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I did BSL on boots as I had them crafted already in S3 (idk why?)

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So just needed recraft for S4 😂

acoustic wagon
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When use mortal strike instead of cleave in a dungeon ? 3 target max ?

sacred zodiac
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you are legit hard trolling if you're playing cloak in higher keys

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and food buff doesnt matter in weekly 10s

steep delta
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anyone know the bronze bullion cap?

quasi torrent
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big 535 mast crit cloak clueless

sacred zodiac
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holy moly

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
sacred zodiac
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i dont have my old cloak anymore

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so i cnat test

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ig u can with urs

quasi torrent
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(ive not actually tried the awakened track one, but hero myth and dropped 535 can!)

sacred zodiac
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do u have a ss cause i genuinely remember not being able to cata the s2 one

quasi torrent
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Im currently on a bus, so no!

sacred zodiac
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i hope the bus drives to your stop

quasi torrent
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i will not pull out my laptop, connect to phone hotspot, start wow, fly to catalyst and then SS!

lost kernel
#

lol rly 535 cloak with stamina

#

nice lifehack

wet jasper
#

Hi. What "buff" do I need again to WW in MT?

quasi torrent
sacred zodiac
#

there fore i am gonna have to ask you to provide PROOF !!! when ur not busy

wet jasper
sacred zodiac
#

can you rephrase your question please it currently doesnt make much sense

wet jasper
#

I don't really know to be honest. I just remember someone on the DC explaining the multi target rotation and there was a condition before using whirlwind.

boreal quartz
#

thats fury rotation no?

sacred zodiac
arctic iris
#

Has anyone else noticed that Bloodletting is applying Rend from MS no matter the enemy's health percentage in remix?

wet jasper
#

When you say Deswind's cook, are you referring to a talent tree?

sacred zodiac
#

nah just his aoe optimization outlined in the message i linked to

small juniper
#

Super-newbie question.

dull siren
small juniper
#

Should I ever pool rage for more priority abilities?

dull siren
#

Real content @quasi torrent

quasi torrent
#

get aid

small juniper
#

Like, don't Thunder Clap (as spender) in Colossus window, to pool rage for WW

#

Or something like that

#

Or should I just go by priority strictly, "no rage for WW - push next button in list"?

boreal quartz
dull siren
boreal quartz
#

but thats so rare anways

small juniper
#

Let's imagine the situation. There is both Colossus and Rend debuffs on a boss, MS and OP are on cd. I have 40 rage.
What should I press - WW or TC? If I press TC, I may not ever get enough rage for WW in the Colossus window

quasi torrent
#

Post "i just press buttons" meme

small juniper
quasi torrent
#

U get a fucking massive rage injection at the start of CS

boreal quartz
#

global

quasi torrent
#

how do u run out

boreal quartz
#

cba afk

boreal quartz
#

x4

#

idk

quasi torrent
#

Just dont get parried

#

mayhaps

boreal quartz
#

fr

small juniper
small juniper
halcyon breach
#

Suffering from success

boreal quartz
#

1 melee crit noob

hazy flower
#

2 warriors too much for me to maintain

boreal quartz
#

best class what can i say

clever crag
#

Make war and ret

hazy flower
#

with mage and dh alive

boreal quartz
#

made one too xan

granite basin
#

20 warriors is where its at

hazy flower
#

I made monk

boreal quartz
boreal quartz
hazy flower
clever crag
#

War for raid, ret for m+

hazy flower
#

myrtspin is 15

quasi torrent
clever crag
#

Both for pvp

hazy flower
#

and I'll have all classes

#

not that I ever touched my druid

#

got it level boosted and didnt even set up talents on it

clever crag
#

Druids suck

#

Cant see mog

hazy flower
#

hate leveling

#

I've been through 5,5 levels of leveling

#

already sick of it

quasi torrent
#

then just log out?

halcyon breach
#

me too

quasi torrent
#

sad

..

#

Maybe we just rock up at spongies

#

thoughts

halcyon breach
#

We can and I will still all of his tea

quasi torrent
#

I can be there in ~2:30

halcyon breach
#

I can be there in a lot longer than that

quasi torrent
#

Unlagi!!!

hazy flower
quasi torrent
#

gg

#

same plague as me

hazy flower
#

need tmogs

#

and mounts

fossil thistle
#

Ngl I spent about 50k on mounts so far…

dull siren
#

Upgrading myself b4 mounts

#

Rather have an easier time farming

fossil thistle
#

That’s fair.
Have you ran any heroic raids yet?

#

Curious if they also only drop 346 gear..

fading sage
#

I’m finding it hard to do the scenarios… getting thrown into triple dps and with the scaling… I just get slapped like a red headed step child

fossil thistle
#

Mhm, wasn’t super enjoyable. I played prot for them and had no issues though, you can buy a 1h and shield and upgrade them

sacred zodiac
#

I will offer you a cup of tea though

still wagon
#

im doing mop remix - is fury or arms better for lveling?

sacred zodiac
#

arms probs

fossil thistle
#

Fury kinda dookie not gonna lie 😂 every warrior I’ve seen has been arms

livid thunder
#

wowhead doesnt mention casting ww with storm of swords here

#

where does it take priority? after MS and TC? before overpower?

hazy flower
#

you didnt click on the talent

livid thunder
#

lmao no i didnt

hazy flower
#

"Select desired talents"

livid thunder
#

okay yes ty

#

so it does

strange basalt
#

on raidbots what are arms wars using to sim for M+?

lost kernel
#

how can i make torch channel non interruptable? coz i made macro /mortal strike /cast grieftirch. and when i spam it . it stop casting after 0.1 sec

chilly mulch
strange basalt
lost kernel
dull siren
#

Him dead on Remix

chilly mulch
#

Not sure how that translates to Arms warr though. I’m still studying the class

steep osprey
fossil thistle
misty iron
#

is there a WA in remix that lets you swap around gems easier?

smoky kayak
#

best you could do is a cast sequence like Anvil's, but I'm not sure how long Grieftorch's GCD is offhand

/castsequence reset=0.7 Mortal Strike, Elementium Pocket Anvil```
fossil thistle
rare kite
#

nothing special

somber lance
#

i need tusks

#

tfw gotta play remix for tusks

lost kernel
sacred zodiac
#

I mean grief is a 2s interruptible channel that is on the gcd

#

You dont want to macro anything to it

#

None of your cds affect it in any way

smoky kayak
lost kernel
smoky kayak
#

Cast sequence always casts them in order to not interrupt your GCD

scenic umbra
#

Knowledge right there

strange perch
#

guys if your maxxed on characters do you get extra char slot with remix character/characters?

scenic umbra
#

Had no clue

lost kernel
sacred zodiac
#

you cant have a macro with multiple buttons solving a priority list for you

lost kernel
#

and if i dont care about priority,, why no solutions for people like me from blizzards end(((

knotty creek
#

is wowanalyzer worth using

lost kernel
#

i doubt my perfomance will decrease if i cast ww then cleave or cleave then ww (

sacred zodiac
sacred zodiac
sacred zodiac
knotty creek
lost kernel
sacred zodiac
#

i mean yea i understand but then you'll just have to accept the price of just not playing optimally or take a look at your keybinds and what you use

#

most of us use the buttons around WASD, 1-5, mouse buttons, sometimes shift and ctrl modifiers for keybinds and we always manage to fit everything

rare kite
lost kernel
#

i found m+ rotation so hard in season4))

#

like 16 different abilities..

#

or more with saves and interupts

sacred zodiac
#

its just 5 no and you press one of them only against priority targets

#

i get the sentiment of fluctuating target counts making it a bit hard to know what to press but that just comes with learning the dungeons and understanding your spec

manic stirrup
#

if you don’t care about being optional it shouldn’t matter anyway

signal dock
#

Mmo mouse may be worth the investment if you enjoy the game and are looking for more comfort and options for button pushes

#

You may be giving up some mouse accuracy (selecting targets mid rotation) with it but it could be worth the tradeoff

hallow turtle
#

It’s either use more modifiers, combine things into macros or just not use them

stable osprey
#

just a quick question. i only do mythics. You sim yourself in single target build? or m+?

granite basin
#

Sim 1t 3min

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And 5t 2min

#

1t5min 5t5min works

granite basin
#

But usually aoe m+ build

stable osprey
#

ok thx, i simmed it both and it's not that big difference so

simple wren
#

can i macro remix cogwheel gems?

halcyon breach
#

Yes

#

I macro'd Leap on my mage with [@cursor]

simple wren
#

i wanna double jump with heroic leap gem

#

but can only macro my "normal" leap

sacred zodiac
wide pebble
sacred zodiac
#

sorry to hear that

wide pebble
#

That’s a perfect response. So beyond help that all someone can do is say “I’m sorry, hope it gets better.”

sacred zodiac
#

no but unironically if it is perfect for you then why not

fossil thistle
#

Idk it doesn’t work for me?
Every time I press it it just says [@cursor] in party chat and doesn’t do anything?
Can you check my macro

lapis trench
#

How do I best determine which gems I should socket on my gear?

fossil thistle
#

@halcyon breach

halcyon breach
#

Seek help

proper garden
fossil thistle
#

😫

pure otter
#

lmao

sacred anvil
sacred anvil
lapis trench
#

Swear I looked for it but missed it like 5 times

sacred anvil
#

Yeah it's just part of the dragon flight class guides on wow head

strange perch
#

best way to farm bronze?

olive nest
#

play wow remix

signal dock
#

Gems you say? Simc is the way

#

Unless it's remix then idk what that even is

fossil thistle
#

Remix gems -> whatever you want.
You get so many stats eventually and through buffs

strange perch
#

where do i buy items?

strange basalt
#

when is best time to use puzzle box? new to arms XD im guessing on pre-pull?

signal dock
#

2-3 seconds prepull then charge

strange perch
#

i want it all

#

how much total i need?

strange basalt
fossil thistle
boreal quartz
#

that is so mean

boreal quartz
strange perch
boreal quartz
#

but "just" tusks and heirlooms its about 60 garrosh currency

boreal quartz
#

so prolly like 800k

signal dock
boreal quartz
#

total

#

just play the game and go

signal dock
#

When tank is gathering you can carefully put up some thunder claps and cleaves then once everything is set use puzzle and blast

hasty slate
#

yea puzzle box is like a 1.5 cast time nothing crazy like font or anything of that nature. Very feasible to pop it right before you get into huge packs

strange perch
signal dock
#

One tip is that you can also use puzzle before the key is entered. If you are going to hit mobs right away and you are doing a countdown use puzzle before key is entered. You'll get the buff and the cd will reset (like prepotting)

strange perch
#

800k? no way, it took me 12 hours to farm 15k

#

bro

#

@boreal quartz

sacred zodiac
#

@boreal quartz liar !!!!

sacred zodiac
strange perch
#

just to farm thjis shit

#

too much

#

im not chinease gold farmer

boreal quartz
boreal quartz
boreal quartz
strange perch
strange perch
boreal quartz
#

for the charms and turn them in for rep

#

which gives u bronze

strange perch
#

its max level content?

boreal quartz
#

yea max level

sacred zodiac
#

how do you even get marked as a likely spammer thats so funny

boreal quartz
#

new account

halcyon breach
#

Had to check who I had blocked

sacred zodiac
#

any roidsack news @halcyon breach

#

?

halcyon breach
#

He is still amongus

boreal quartz
#

and roni- raven?

sacred zodiac
#

he has only said bannable shit like once so its fine

hazy flower
#

wait did he get banned again

#

xd

#

lmaop

#

thought its his redemption arc

boreal quartz
#

SODAX DESERVES REDEMPTION

timber lynx
#

17 paragraphs, 20% slam buff

granite basin
#

Where is soda btw?

boreal quartz
#

banned since a year

fossil thistle
granite basin
#

Well im the hole still so i cant really own a refrigerator

#

Shit i kinda want a soda, coke pref

granite basin
#

Fuck that

#

Coke wirh sugar

fossil thistle
#

Sorry some of us are diabetic 🥲

#

Me. I’m diabetic.

winged brook
#

I'm diabolic too.

granite basin
#

Im anabolic

hexed saddle
#

@boreal quartz how good is frogs for bronzew

boreal quartz
#

prolly BIS

#

but contested

sacred anvil
#

All shall farm frogs

inner wasp
#

someone talk some sense into me

#

i cant decide if my timerunner hunter should be orc or troll

tough steppe
#

i should play monk in mop remix

buoyant axle
boreal quartz
#

funny lanky man

inner wasp
#

hunters are inherently boot-coded and trolls cant wear boots

boreal quartz
#

fair

knotty gate
#

Without Fyrakk is diurnas chosen worth?

hallow turtle
#

HEAD ENCHANT PROCS ITDS

#

sorry caps

#

also SF embellsionments, and I think a passive arms talenets does in aoe

knotty gate
#

I see, tyty

halcyon breach
outer holly
grim anchor
#

Anyone else have the problem where they cant buy Prepatch war within

signal dock
#

Did someone say

#

Just get it FingerGuns

obsidian arch
#

damn, out voted by matt damon

main idol
#

yo, anyone got jewelcrafting? i got game silence and need a jewelcrafter to craft me a gem :>

#

US servers

gray steeple
livid thunder
#

Do we use cleave in ST before slam?

#

assuming nothing else is available, ofc

#

and im assuming cleave is used in 3+ targets / when no sweeping strikes for 2 target

livid thunder
outer holly
#

without slam talents cleave does more than slam, but slam also eat your martial prowess stacks

livid thunder
#

i've been avoiding slam talents so fat

#

far

outer holly
#

So like technically yes, but that's a lot of buff tracking for next to zero gain

livid thunder
#

is that good or bad

#

haaaate pressing that shit

outer holly
#

If you don't press slam you're losing like... 0.1-2% DPS?

livid thunder
#

this is not pressing slam over what?

#

or just not pressing anything and saving the rage for more important stuff?

outer holly
#

That's with a CF build that talents in to slam damage, which then prioritizes slam over TC in ST

livid thunder
#

what's CF pardon

outer holly
#

But the alternative to not pressing slam is pressing absolutely nothing with an empty gcd

#

crushing force

livid thunder
#

gotcha

#

okay thanks

#

so basically unless im a real sweat i dont need to worry about pressing slam at all

#

and cleave takes slight priority in ST?

outer holly
#

Personally I have it keybound because empty gcds just standing there auto attacking the boss feels bad

livid thunder
#

yeah i've got it bound #

outer holly
#

don't even bother considering using cleave in ST, it's the same argument for slam

livid thunder
#

I do use it every now and then

#

just prefer to use others yk

outer holly
#

Cleave will eat your buffs from OP losing you DPS by lowering your MS damage

livid thunder
#

ah yes ofc

#

hadnt considered that

outer holly
#

so you really have to watch your buffs, for what is a 4,000 damage difference

livid thunder
#

nice thanks

#

this is all in mop remix anyway lol but its good to know

#

im enjoying arms a lot

outer holly
#

Oh, I doubt the balance is there for literally any of this to matter then

#

zug zug and collect bronze

livid thunder
#

its just fun knowing like

frank iron
#

any nice ppl can create a macro where i can use Whirlwind when Overpower is not avaible? So after i used my 2 stack of overpower i go with Mortal strike then if nothing is up i want to cast Whirlwind .....Yes i am a clicker so it will help me a lot

#

#showtooltip
/cast Overpower
/cast Whirlwind is not working

halcyon breach
#

You can't apply logic like that to macros, where it uses one if the other isn't available

#

It will keep trying to use Overpower, regardless of it being available or not, and will never use Whirlwind

#

The only workaround would be castsequences, but they have their own limitations and aren't recommended either for rotations

frank iron
#

When u need to use the raidboots optmize as arms for m+ aoe build what segment arms uses : Patchwwerk 5 bosses or 1boss for the 5 min ? or Daungeon Slice ?

halcyon breach
#

There are small optimisations you could theoretically make for AoE, but generally speaking whatever sims best in an ST scenario, will be nearly as good in an AoE scenario

#

And your stat spread being hyper optimised is never going to be what makes you time a key or not

outer holly
#

trinkets being the exception

halcyon breach
#

Trinkets are an exception yes

#

Use some of your own thinking, and look around to see what other people use

frank iron
#

well i was lucky and i got a box and i have the augury from bullion vendor

halcyon breach
#

But generally for keys you'd want to use Puzzle Box + OCE/Icon (depending on group) or Pips

#

I personally wouldn't bother buying Augury as an Arms player, but if you intend on playing Fury as well, or more, then it's a fine purchase

frank iron
#

well i wach Critcake but he is not a clicker like me 😦

#

well i played fury always but now i want to try arms

#

i hear u

#

i am 2840 😄

sacred zodiac
#

powerful

#

clicker has more score than me maybe i should retire

outer holly
#

Augury is somewhat on my list, still like a month out until I can get ashk and aug for fury spec, hoping in that time a few more positive fury adjustments

sacred zodiac
#

i saw what happened in your discord today..

quasi torrent
#

what u mean

#

we bullied a poor man who is getting evicted

sacred zodiac
#

wtf

#

is this current lore?

quasi torrent
#

@sacred zodiac lore

sacred zodiac
#

RIGGED

quasi torrent
#

ok but what was ur point

sacred zodiac
quasi torrent
#

i dont get it

frank iron
knotty solstice
#

does ashkandur trigger seal of diruanas?

frank iron
#

The helm ench and legendary triggers the diurna ring

urban iron
#

is merciless bonegrinder ever worth taking over executioners precision for fort keys with a lot of aoe

#

like AA or maybe BH

nova marsh
#

I mean

urban iron
#

seems like a reasonable aoe increase but no EP feels gross in ST

nova marsh
#

are you running doubble bs?

urban iron
manic stirrup
#

only hard part of aa is the bosses

#

only hard part in bracky is totems

urban iron
nova marsh
#

I mean

#

That's MBG in a nutshell

#

it's mostly just for pad 🤷‍♂️

hazy flower
#

massively ethical

#

no cleave in sight

#

wait why is it breakdown of only last few pulls

#

I pressed cleave like 15 times whole dungeon anyway

daring heron
#

lmao

#

what dungeon did you manage that in

lime goblet
#

Should I only use Mortal strike with 2 overpower buffs, or is it better to just get Mortal strike on CD as fast as possible?

sacred zodiac
#

get it on cd, martial prowess has no impact on our rotation (edit: in st only, you can somewhat cook in aoe but it doesnt really matter)

lime goblet
#

great ty!

muted sigil
#

Anyone know the string to add to your sim for the OCE secondaries?

left talon
#

^

muted sigil
#

sweet thanks

sacred zodiac
#

@halcyon breach

halcyon breach
#

@halcyon breach

neon condor
#

Hey. I'm playing Arms right now but I'm willing to try Fury later. What craft items suit both specs well? Allied Wristguard of Companionship + Primal Molten Sabatons? Or Arms benefits greatly from BSL neck so I should go neck + vers wrists?

hazy flower
#

had 13 casts of cleave

#

checked on logs

#

ethical gamer

#

10 casts of cleave first pull, 3 whole dungeon

daring heron
#

damn

#

too ethical 4 me

#

i saw several divine storms being cast when AA tree boss was at 3% earlier

#

my group is not ethical like you

#

i'll throw a roar at that boss health too xdx

#

we did a big AV20 earlier though

#

the leaderboard looks silly, full of aug mage sp

sage badge
#

Funneled lego into tree boss

daring heron
#

yuge

#

love doing that

#

i try to do it on rlp 1st boss and av 1st boss too

sage badge
#

Yeah, big funnel

pulsar badger
#

does mortal strike have any way to apply rend above 35% hp? it seems to happen quite often for me, but i'm unaware of any interaction that causes that

sage badge
#

If you're sweeping from a mob below 35%, it'll apply onto the second target regardless of health.

pulsar badger
#

that makes sense

#

but i mean on my opening ms, its especially apparent on mop remix, but i have seen it on retail as well

sage badge
#

Could be an open world bug or something jank

smoky kayak
pulsar badger
#

possibly, its so odd

#

yeah it does

smoky kayak
#

that's probably what you're seeing

pulsar badger
#

but i see happen on my first ms on mobs that dont even go near 35%

smoky kayak
#

I've never ever seen that

hazy flower
#

deadge

#

idk not too keen on pushing this season

#

I just dont feel it

#

been gearing my mage recently to try something new and play high keys from different perspective but my warrior is pretty much dusted whole season

daring heron
#

believe it's been bugged a while - MS sometimes applies rend to targets above 35% in the open world

#

i havent played remix yet but assume its the same there

rare kite
pulsar badger
#

its really egregious in remix, it happens nearly every time

hazy flower
#

from having played mage 2 weeks I know this

#

it can be fun in high keys

pulsar badger
#

i'll take the free global, i just wasn't sure if i was missing something

hazy flower
#

its fun on bosses like leymor

#

u dont even know how

#

u just demolish the adds

#

but its not fun in pug keys where you have terrorists doing weird pulls and group wiping

#

and your 7 stacks of skb goes to shit

#

because tank has to take a break to stretch his bones before every boss

daring heron
#

i just get bored as caster

#

let me have my melee chaos

hazy flower
#

mage is kinda of a melee caster

#

u need to stay in melee

#

its a literal dps loss to be far away

#

maybe thats why I enjoy it so much (and well the pretty fast paced gameplay that it can be)

daring heron
#

yea db and blastwave

hazy flower
#

nah not even that

rare kite
hazy flower
#

thats just ccs

daring heron
#

prolly something with projectile speed too

hazy flower
#

yep

#

as long as your spells flying time is shorter than gcd youre fine

daring heron
#

pyro reaches before your gcd is up etc

#

ya

hazy flower
#

yep

#

gets a bit annoying when u're far away

#

idk what to do do I send other spell or do I just have this yuge gap in my rotation

#

so I just cosplay warrior

#

and sit up mobs ass

kind sonnet
#

Volocross as fire mage critcake

shadow ibex
#

only 3 mil dmg in non-crit mortal strikes on terros purpleface

jade basalt
#

Big worm bosses always go wrong

shadow ibex
#

this tier is gr8

jade basalt
#

Big strikes

latent moss
#

some ret tech

#

as well on volc

#

cause of judgement

fossil thistle
#

Legion SM*priest on Xavius was 👑

rancid knot
#

if i dont do the weekly campaign quest that gives the splinters, will i get it as a drop the following week?

tiny turtle
#

Just starting arms. It's sad you can't just use Bullions to "buy" legendary instead of still having to farm for the drop.

latent moss
#

cant have fun

#

in this game

covert jackal
fossil thistle
trim arrow
fossil thistle
#

Yess

#

I need more crit though

#

Specifically was going for 100% mastery for 100% crit blocks 🤷‍♂️

quick marlin
#

okay what build y'all running in remix. 😄

fossil thistle
#

typical arms ST/M+ for dungeons

#

Stats atm