arms

[hazy flower]

I charge, spread my bleeds and go afk

[daring heron]

yeah usually i do a very slow filler opener for a few secs then send cds so that the aoe lines up with when im in bladestorm

idk how long i do fillers maybe 4-5 secs

just use feeling

[hazy flower]

yeah I didnt pay attention but I will now i.e. I mostly tanked keys this season

my arms is getting declined to 9s

[daring heron]

prot is kinda sick

[hazy flower]

prot is nuts

hopped for a 12 with guildies yday

popped 400k in bracken

no aug

[daring heron]

it's not vdh but yeah it feels good

[hazy flower]

I mean 100% its day and night playing prot and vdh when it comes to pack control

[daring heron]

i want anvil and signet for prot

[hazy flower]

I have anvil

it does like 20% every time I play vexamus

prestacked anvil and 200k st as tank

[rare kite]

augury also owns for prot

[hazy flower]

augury is outclassed iirc

dreadplates is the name of the game I heard

[fierce patrol]

YO, pandaria remix aint out yet?

[woven wasp]

an hour and 15 minutes til

[boreal quartz]

@woven waspgreggo are you going ally or horde

😳

[fierce patrol]

ty

[woven wasp]

ally

[boreal quartz]

human warrior male

as usual

[woven wasp]

:xoes

[boreal quartz]

[steep osprey]

:xoes

[woven wasp]

if half the content werent queued so it didnt matter i wouldve gone undead

[steep osprey]

woyer?

[woven wasp]

but alas

[boreal quartz]

ye idk if leveling via scenario is even good

[woven wasp]

not even that

[boreal quartz]

lets hope they fixed >60

[woven wasp]

you need to do them for gear

[boreal quartz]

ye but only once for achi

innit

[woven wasp]

need people with brains though

[boreal quartz]

no shot its actually "hard" to do hc scenarios tho

[woven wasp]

some stuff was hitting pretty hard

[boreal quartz]

but u werent 70 innit

[woven wasp]

i wouldnt recommend doing hc dungeons as you open them

[woven wasp]

yeah but tmy was like 65 or smth and he was getting trucked too

[boreal quartz]

ye i did some during leveling and it was waaay slower

[boreal quartz]

hes trash on prot its ok

[woven wasp]

we were both arm

[woven wasp]

not even speed, like low tanks getting one shot to trash

it was pretty bad

[boreal quartz]

ye it was slow cuz u kept wiping

[woven wasp]

i queued for hc dungeons, got scarlet halls (the first one you unlock i think?)

group dispanded before first boss died

[boreal quartz]

ye the dogs are soo fucking strong

crazy hamburger

cring

[woven wasp]

masterycake when

[fossil thistle]

Ulduar timewalking

it only beats it on sub 3m fight @.@ ~500dps diff at 4m

Good to know though for quick bosses + heroic re-clears I guess

What about Versatilitycake

[summer elbow]

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/heero-yuy-gundam-wing-laughing-laugh-gif-20499486

Enjoy becoming garrosh

[boreal quartz]

moonkin spotted

ewwww

[summer elbow]

in fact, a resto lol

[halcyon breach]

It's a little alien sipping on a drink

[daring heron]

oh thanks

[halcyon breach]

no problem

want a sip

[gaunt owl]

you shouldnt be allowed to change PFP more than once per day

[halcyon breach]

I think that's against especially my rights as a living being and a person

[outer holly]

only an alien would think that living beings are allowed rights

get em boys

[wintry scroll]

Did your alien ever sip on some lean ?

[lucid raft]

Is the sim of chromatic essence bugged? it makes me choose 521 of secondary stat, instead of 733... does it mean that in the sim i have 200 less secondary stat from the trinket?

[daring heron]

[sharp wyvern]

puzzle box ?

[copper swan]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-nice-great-excellent-the-boys-gif-15593741

[sage badge]

The chosen one

[olive nest]

[tepid citrus]

Exactly what mine look like in AA lol

[grizzled estuary]

hey guys, im wondering whats the meta rn for m+ pls? arm fury or both are okish,

[somber lance]

both are okay play what u like

arms better on bigger pulls

and pure ST fights

if you're really good at either spec you will push just fine

[grizzled estuary]

on high keys does arm fall off on bigger pulls due to being more burst pls?

[somber lance]

no

bigger pulls arms is better than fury

fury is target capped at 5

[dire hinge]

Troar uncapped

[raven nymph]

Troar dn

[gaunt owl]

[timber lynx]

that would hurt dude

[somber lance]

are you guys that are raiding twice a week, do hc and first bosses mythic, then clear the next raid day?

i guess depends on the guild

[dire hinge]

heavily depends on guild, as some dont even do heroic too

mine is doing heroic tuesday in about 1-1.5hr, then into mythic, and we pick back up on thursday

[somber lance]

i find actually a bit annoying that hc eats into raid time

as its such a breeze\

[dire hinge]

though we've also been just calling it at two vault slots and logging off, whichever comes first 😅

[hazy flower]

we do amirdrassil mythic

into raid

to get everyone owls

[dire hinge]

we'll probably stop heroic in a week or two, but still do Fyrakk lockout for anyone's alts that don't have lego yet

[halcyon breach]

We did HC -> Myth, but now just do Mythic and HC is optional

[hazy flower]

so no heroic

jsut that

[somber lance]

you selling myrtu? or just for the boys?

[hazy flower]

no just for us

[halcyon breach]

Although it also depends on your guilds level, some guilds are fine with doing HC -> Myth because they wont need as much time to clear Mythic

[hazy flower]

got mine yday

[halcyon breach]

Other guilds would need the extra time that HC eats up to clear Mythic

[somber lance]

this me

[halcyon breach]

Would say that if your guild barely gets to 2nd last/last boss in a week with all raid days, cut out HC time and make it optional

[opal folio]

Just loot it on your first kill

[hazy flower]

feral that joined our guild got it

[dire hinge]

manifest it

[hazy flower]

she joined midway through our prog iirc

but she already had CE

and she got it on our first kill

she and our bdk that always gets everything first somehow

he got first lego

on first week

[opal folio]

We did Fyrakk first week this season to get more mounts

Two trials got it

[thick kelp]

holy cheater CE

[hazy flower]

ye think she got CE and left the guild

and we killed it like 2 weeks later after her first kill

[opal folio]

[north mesa]

do any mythic rasz gamers know if its safe to use lego when on the outside of the polarity stack points

like I wont charge into the inner stack pile right

[opal folio]

That would be funny

[halcyon breach]

I don't recall moving into the middle ever using Lego on Rasza first week

[north mesa]

I'm trusting you 🫡

[dire hinge]

it should charge you to the edge of the boss's hitbox if you're not in range of it, or just stand planted it you are

i'd try it on pull just to be sure

[opal folio]

Same energy as that warrior that tried to sacrifice himself in p3

Only to pull the entire raid down

[dire hinge]

as long as you say it was for science nobody can get mad

[opal folio]

[dire hinge]

i accidentally lego-lept through a blue circle into the melee cluster on council, it did not go well

[opal folio]

[dire hinge]

i briefly got to feel like a demon hunter

[wild heart]

Dont

Just wait til thats over or use it on the pushback ring so you dont get pushed back

[halcyon breach]

I mean

Using lego during damage amp is way bigger

Than using to ignore pushback

[dire hinge]

we have charge and leap for that, yeah, during shield is massive

[opal folio]

You got leap and charge for that

[halcyon breach]

Warrior has no issue with that

[north mesa]

If I can then why not

[wild heart]

Yeah but wiping group is def worth it right

[dire hinge]

shouldn't wipe tho 🤔

[wild heart]

If you swap polarity?

And are mid lego?

[halcyon breach]

The polarity change has a quite generous window for you to walk out

[dire hinge]

dont use it near the swap ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[halcyon breach]

So getting it mid lego shouldn't wipe you

[dire hinge]

it's a 2sec cast

[wild heart]

I guess fuck me then

[halcyon breach]

It's a valid concern to have

Just be careful in any case

[teal fossil]

@halcyon breach

ping me when mop remix out

wait nvm you aren NA

[halcyon breach]

I'm raiding rn

But it's in 5 min according to blizz

Should be global

[gaunt owl]

server imploding in 4 min you mean

[calm elm]

I am half expecting it to explode or fail to launch.

[halcyon breach]

I very much pray they keep it to the remix portion

[thick kelp]

what race do i make my remix warrior

[halcyon breach]

And leave retail alone

[astral yarrow]

I want MoP back

[wild heart]

Legion pls

I dont even care for the legion content

I want the legion classes

[somber lance]

the orange overlord says no simc support yet

[gaunt owl]

gnome

[somber lance]

raidbot addicts in a state for MOP remix

[gaunt owl]

95 days of Remix

so in 95 days we get TWW

[steep osprey]

Prepatch

[gaunt owl]

you guys go outside touch grass

so i can level up in Remix

you got all day everyday while i have to work anyway

[raven ivy]

Hey guys how do I sim my mop character

[somber lance]

ban this guy

[raven ivy]

Im level 1 whats bis gear

[dire hinge]

anything blue

[raven ivy]

whats a ”remix”

[raven ivy]

I only got greens blue doesnt exist

[gaunt owl]

its because you didnt buy premium remix

[frigid lava]

M+ employment this week is brutal

[raven ivy]

ah fuck

Does my runescape sub work for panda remix

[tough steppe]

Yes it does

[inner wasp]

it's purple do i trash??

[zenith warren]

for shorter st fights best trinkets are oce+puzzle?

[raw kayak]

so fucking based gamer

[olive nest]

Same brotha same

My grind starts Saturday

[dire hinge]

melt it down to fuel fyr'alath

[outer holly]

oh this is a fun new bug, apparently anyone who uses grieftorch breaks the tether for the leggo quest to kill bosses

[teal fossil]

any 40/40/10/10 enjoyers

[dusty venture]

yes

[somber lance]

any shattering throwers

for rasz

or dont bother

[dire hinge]

it's solid yeah

[outer holly]

It's a pretty free talent point to move around

[daring heron]

natty too

[teal fossil]

this better be on mop remix

[daring heron]

if BSL counts that is

[frigid lava]

damn.. 40404020?

are u like 530?

oh.. BSL

[astral yarrow]

so close

lemme just copy crits gear 1:1

[outer holly]

First vault myth OCE

[teal fossil]

seems optimal

[outer holly]

I bet that felt nice after getting wrekt by BLP

[frigid lava]

but i have hourglass :'

[tough steppe]

man, remix is fun

and arms is pretty nice early

[outer holly]

I'm making a class I have zero shot at leveling in retail

[manic stirrup]

which is nice bc fury is unbelievably bad

[acoustic wagon]

Yo all i see in wowhead that the best bullion purchases are after the leg weapon, The ring called "Seal of Diurna" (fire damage a chance to ignite your ennemie ...) but i wonder, how war arms or fury doing fire damage ??Im a bit confuse

[timber lynx]

The legendary

Helm enchant

Shadow-flame patch all do fire damage

[acoustic wagon]

Ahh okk, so if i dont have the legendary it's useless for me ?

[timber lynx]

No it’s still good

Ashkandur can proc it too

The special effect two hander

[acoustic wagon]

Ok thanks

[timber lynx]

You can sim the awakened vendor to find your best drops though

[acoustic wagon]

where did you get that btw ?

[timber lynx]

i would recommend doing that

[acoustic wagon]

ok thanks

[inland quest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/te9cX4H4bubdKj4J2EEkEW how can i get to 380k guys

can someone help ? will appreciat it

[timber lynx]

[inland quest]

how much u simming guys

around 520 ilvl

[halcyon breach]

Get better gear idk

[timber lynx]

Get rid of the rasz trink

[halcyon breach]

Upgrade your Diurna ring, your helmet

[timber lynx]

get something better

[halcyon breach]

Simwise, Spiteful is very high

But not really a good trinket for vast majority of content

[timber lynx]

right but doesnt it also have to stack

Or did i read it wrong

[halcyon breach]

It does, it's a ramping trinket

[timber lynx]

Ah okay yeah

thought so

Meh

yeah def max out all that stuff for sure

Free dps

[wet jasper]

Do I have to go 2x BSL or can I do the allied wrist and one BSL?

[boreal quartz]

1 is fine too

[timber lynx]

Im doing 1 bsl rn but ill probably swap soon

Mainly bc the wrists are nice pushin keys

yeah def

[wet jasper]

Ye, I just need to get crests

So want to do the one so long.

Is BSL really more worth than Shadowflame due to having to have 90%+ HP?

[lethal ore]

if i got no trinkets yet and bullions not spent yet which would be the best trinkets to buy for m+ ?

[opaque lake]

So Gale Arrow is supposed to be reflectable, and I remember reflecting it back in S1 but for some reason no matter how many times i hit reflect it never seems to reflect. I assumed it was changed this season but turns out it's not so what am I supposedly doing wrong?

[urban raptor]

in big packs we prio cleave ?

[wet jasper]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sRLqn9NJB7E5KAQZRigrsz

Bro what?

[sacred zodiac]

is that the nokhud 3rd boss arrow cast?

[halcyon breach]

This sim has only flask/food, lust and bshout active, you don't have lego, your trinkets are kinda meh

You also have 10% uptime on corrupting rage?

And 0% uptime on blue silken for some reason

[unborn canyon]

What happened to that log

[halcyon breach]

Very strange sim settings

[wet jasper]

What do I set BSL to?

[halcyon breach]

Well it doesn't matter since you don't even have it

But 50-60%

[opaque lake]

yea I'm likely misremembering how it worked in season 1 but I could have sworn you could just reflect the initial hit. Perhaps it's actually just the tornados themselves and my memory is just shit?

[halcyon breach]

Corrupting rage 80-85%

[wet jasper]

Getting it now, thanks.

[rare kite]

nah it was never reflectable

[unborn canyon]

It was never reflectable ye

[rare kite]

it's nature damage tho so you get the dr

[unborn canyon]

You might be thinking the storm boss with his thing he does when the tank isn't in melee

[opaque lake]

Gale Arrow was DEFINITELY reflectable. It's just a matter of how. And it still is because it's on Sense's reflect sheet and I've seen it in logs.

[unborn canyon]

Wut

Time to investigate

[opaque lake]

Guess I'mma need to reflect a tornado for science and hope I don't troll my next key because it definitely can't be the initial hit.

[unborn canyon]

I've never been able to reflect it before, but im interested to find out how to if u can

[halcyon breach]

You can reflect the tornado, not the arrow hit itself

[unborn canyon]

Wack

I now feel 100% safer with that boss

[opaque lake]

Makes sense. I swear I reflected like 10 of them this season to no avail thinking I was reflecting the initial hit back in S1. Holy shit my memory is terrible.

[sacred zodiac]

its just the tornadoes

[unborn canyon]

It's weird that the tornadoes are reflectable though

[halcyon breach]

What's reflectable and what isn't is a bit vague, what Blizzard decides passes or not

[unborn canyon]

Yeah

[opaque lake]

Damage is damage reflecting them it is. Thanks for saving me the risk for science lol.

[unborn canyon]

Yes

I will run head first into the first tornado I see every time it goes out

[halcyon breach]

Biz has a good video showcasing reflects in case you're curious about other reflects

[opaque lake]

Personally I'm pretty versed in the reflects. Just couldn't figure out what I was doing in S1 to reflect the arrow and haven't felt like dying to a tornado because i thought that couldn't have been it.

[inland quest]

xd why is so low

u stuck in s3 or what

[wet jasper]

😦

[rare kite]

why you simming with like no buffs

[wet jasper]

I've changed it now. 😄

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b8bKV1XRnxygNjBMKkEDUF

Looks better atleast.

[knotty creek]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k7uE6otVpQizrHhGo1LbWY

Really need better legs

[paper plover]

where do we get ouur mop builds from?

[raven nymph]

#updates-midnight message

[paper plover]

thx

[naive breach]

man

i need more bullionis

i want fury gear aswell

help

blissart

[smoky brook]

i swear i hate when i fucking use my lego as the first ability on pull only for it to get cancelled

[midnight mural]

spend more time in melee when you press your lego button

[naive breach]

reject lego button

[wary raft]

if you press it before charge finishes then it cancels

[halcyon breach]

It's because you use it mid charge

Do Charge -> MS -> Lego if you want to use it insta

[knotty creek]

whats the proper single target opener

[halcyon breach]

For raid it's
Charge -> MS -> Lego -> Ava + Roar -> CS -> MS -> TC -> WW -> Rest of rotation
For M+ if you have BS it's
Charge -> MS -> Lego if you have it -> Ava + Roar -> TC -> BS -> WB -> MS -> Rotation

Although it doesn't matter too much which order you do the opener, as long as you get all your things out

[opal folio]

Isn’t it better to clap before either war breaker or ms?

With exhilarating blows you might get subsequent mortal strikes, delaying the clap further

[halcyon breach]

I put in TC before BS

But it doesn't matter too terribly much

[hazy flower]

U send clap asap but u want to send cs even sooner

[wet jasper]

So you still use BS during ST in M+? Damn

[hazy flower]

Yes u do

[halcyon breach]

With ToM, you put it inside of CS to spend the rage

[hazy flower]

For hurricane

[knotty creek]

thank you been doing it wrong then

[halcyon breach]

If this happens, I tend to just follow the rotation anyway

And MS -> TC -> MS -> WW

[opal folio]

Fair

Super minor thing anyway, was just kinda curious

[hazy flower]

Tho if its not bl pull i prefer to go ms ww clap

To get 2 wws in

[halcyon breach]

It's all very minor really

[hazy flower]

Ye

[halcyon breach]

As long as you get your dots out, CDs out, and whatever else while following rotation

You're gonna basically do as much as you can

[hallow turtle]

For primal council I ran the execute/ cleave build. I was wondering what the priority looks like during execute phases. I believe I was doing cleave > exe > exe > ms

[dire hinge]

you'll only want to Cleave or MS and not a combination of both during execute

optimially you're killing them all quite equally the whole time and you just AoE throughout until they all die

[hallow turtle]

Ok so it should either be: cleave on cd, exe when above 40 and op to fill or when is up SS: ss> exe > exe > ms

Or do I just ignore SS and stick to a cleave rotation?

[dire hinge]

It depends on the build you're running. It looks like a lot of folks are parsing high using Merciless Bonegrinder and Reaping Swings and not really worrying about execute phase whatsoever

[hallow turtle]

Ok, would ignoring it just look like the op > cleave if proc > ww > tc and only use ms as a filler?

[dire hinge]

for example, many of the top performers right now have less than 5 casts (if any) execute the whole time
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/QnHGZ1KB6Tvkm9Vy#fight=4&type=casts&source=2

Honestly yeah just Cleave (most dont even have MS casts), but that will heavily depend on how our team goes across the finish line for the bosses

for example, if your team kills 1-2 bosses earlier than the others (hopefully not, but it happens), you would want to switch into a single target rotation to finish off the remaining ones

[hallow turtle]

I used the other build for council that didn’t use BS.

Did I pick the wrong build?

[dire hinge]

ah, i'd highly recommend BS for council yes

93% pickrate in the top 100 at the moment

it's not required though, here's someone who also didn't take bladestorm:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tKbHGwq3f7dr4XNv#fight=27&type=damage-done&source=15

[hallow turtle]

I went with the execute/ cleave build because I believed my raid team would spend a little more time in execute.

I was only ~4 mil dmg off the other warrior who used the BS build and that was with me messing up the rotation a bunch and now knowing I shouldn’t have been executing.

Thanks

For M+ at what target count would I switch to exe? I know cleave over ms is 4+

[dire hinge]

With our current tier, i'd only switch to execute if you're doing a single target rotation (such as needing priority damage into one specific mob to get it dead faster than the rest of the pack)

so same rules as MS (3 or less), barring the need for priority damage

[hallow turtle]

Kool ty

[somber lance]

i played improve SS and uproar today on council

i fucked up

basically i should run m+ build?

i mean cleave is a no brainer i guess\

[mild hound]

Top parse uses merciless bondgrinder over massacre . Only change from the wow head m+ build

[boreal quartz]

nah go full mongo build

[dire hinge]

and reaping swings*

just full on ungabunga throughput

bear in mind these fights are lasting like... 1.5-2.5min too

[somber lance]

yeah

u definitely need

a fucking pumper guild

with 525 ilvl

like 30% uptime on lust

[outer holly]

blademaster's torment in raid

that's wild to see

wait with MBG does the cast prio of cleave change?

[dire hinge]

yeah, you cleave on CD and dont stack to 2 with MBG

[outer holly]

Oh makes sense, I just noticed the cleave CDR talent

[dire hinge]

this is what your life becomes

[outer holly]

and I don't quite remember how to play BMT, it's avatar first then natty BS after once the buff is about to wear off?

[quasi torrent]

yes

u send bs to extend hurricane

[outer holly]

Filling the time in between with cleaves and OPsWWs sending troar/cs beforehand?

I assume we want maximum MBG value

[quasi torrent]

u can cleave twice and ww one between

[dire hinge]

you'll have a few globals to spend in there, but yeah it's basically:
charge -> clap -> Lego -> Avatar+Roar (free BS) -> Warbreaker -> Cleave/WW/Cleave -> BS before Hurricane falls off-> Cleave -> Sweeping Strikes

then you just spam Cleave/OP/WW

[quasi torrent]

Roar before ava honestly

so u can cleave 2x in first mbg

and u buff whole duration with hurricane

[dire hinge]

longer hurricane uptime then too yeah good point

bosses deffo gonna live through your burst window 😂

fixed, ty

[outer holly]

We'll see about that

but fantastic, thanks for the writeup and advice guys

[dire hinge]

always!

[prime grotto]

god pugging keys as a warrior is rough

[candid kindle]

yo if i make a non plate char in remix can i still buy the tusks?

for my warrior after?

[summer elbow]

Why roar instead spear of bastion for aoe? Spear gives 25% more crítical dmg right?

[candid kindle]

playing around spear is cringe

and the dot of roar is op on aoe

[summer elbow]

I guess i have to sim it

25 cdi is huge

[candid kindle]

gl standing on that spear this season

[gloomy mirage]

hit all targets with aoe

spear does reduced dam more than 5 targets

[raven nymph]

Cast Spear, Send Boon Trinket. Pray

[tough steppe]

why the fuck i can't access battle.net at all

[inner wasp]

https://i.imgur.com/EP6VeL3.png why am i being whispered at by nobody

am i going insane

[latent moss]

jaithys flashbacks

[hard cedar]

Is that from a raid with a Sha?

[inner wasp]

my guild wont let me play pandaria rn

we're on sennarth

[hard cedar]

Oh wait, you have Sarth cloak?

[inner wasp]

o

yea

[hard cedar]

Sarth Cloak whispers

[inner wasp]

who tf is sarth

SARK

[hard cedar]

right

my edible has kicked and im kind of just dropping letters from his name

[frigid lava]

Seth Rogen Cloak

[hollow axle]

Whys theres a lot of ranks not using Crushing Force even not simming higher?

[frigid lava]

I'm at 40% haste... my sim keeps pushing for even more haste

[inner wasp]

why take crushing force if ur not pressing slam

[tough steppe]

Anyone else with a problem that you literally can't see your damage numbers?

[hard cedar]

That made me laugh like him heh heh heh

[tough steppe]

Ever since i came back to this game, i can't see my damage numbers anymore

[hard cedar]

It's because of Plunderstorm

[open aspen]

think the pandaria arms guide missed a spot

Best Stats for Arms Warrior in Remix: Mists of Pandaria
As far as stats go you want.... talk here about stats for your class in general. Remember that you have access to 21 prismatic gems to balance your stats from and stat DRs exist.

[hard cedar]

Let me go find the script that fixes it

[hollow axle]

I thought they fixed the APL to use slam now... My sim always say to pick Crushing Force

[hard cedar]

Probably because slam use is so infrequent.

[frigid lava]

I slam when in ST setting

Not much else to take anyways

It's a decent filler with crushing force i think

[hard cedar]

try /console floatingCombatTextCombatDamage 1

[tough steppe]

oh yeah, i know that one

but everytime i quit the game

it goes back to the no number stuff

[hard cedar]

Is the game crashing or are you logging out? I know sometimes if the game crashes or you alt-f4 it doesn't save some settings.

[candid kindle]

ps thats the sark cloak

[inner wasp]

so if the whispers dont have a name

im gonna imagine that they cute 👉 👈

ill embrace the void

[hard cedar]

What would be best place to put a flavor pocket? I'm thinkin belt, boots or pants?

[prime grotto]

i do rrings

usually on my signet

[hard cedar]

Same, but I'm probably gonna be using both vault rings, I already have the Eranog one.

[dire hinge]

yeah boots/belt are safest since they're the lowest stat items and they have nothing special in any of the raids we "need/want" for those two

[grand idol]

Ill have to lose a tertiary to move my pocket off ring. its lame.

[outer holly]

cloak is also a good spot if you're not planning on taking the sark one

though eventually I'll be catalyzing that one so endgame it's a bad move

[fossil thistle]

For anyone doing MoP remix, meteor shower and incendiary terror can proc opportunist

😄 Also just got it

[jade basalt]

big mog

[fossil thistle]

10hrs to do 1-60 and get it

glorious

[dire hinge]

arms owns

[fossil thistle]

Big cleavage

[dire hinge]

talking about your mog? 😉

[patent cipher]

does Taunt Reflect still work in HOI last boss?

[dire hinge]

sure does, just be sure to coordinate with your tank about it

[patent cipher]

gotcha

[dire hinge]

you have to be out of range for the bolt to cast, is the only caveat

[strange perch]

yo, how i scrap my gear?

in remix

[fossil thistle]

😂 I mean warrior damage, but that tooo

[fossil thistle]

Use the Unraveling Sands ability

Works like BFA Scrapping

[nova marsh]

I rerolled to other war class for remiz

Im cooked

[steady plover]

ya ronin its true ya ronin , you haven't lived enough in this world to judge how things are going . in usa if you don't work your hard ass off you will be thrown in the street but if you live europe like critcake in uk or banzai in denmark they will take your hands like a baby and provide you a house / job / see your mental issues and fix them / treat you and fix you as a human .

[clever crag]

I went ret for remix

[steady plover]

ret is just better arms

[clever crag]

Nah its different arms

[thick kelp]

skill issue tbh

shoulda woken up in europe day1

[frigid lava]

ret does almost equal dps and has utilities.

i take ret for M+ for sure

[steady plover]

yes you are right rets will always win right now , don't believe those wannabe people in discord linking their damage meter cuz if you bring both equal gear and equal skill ret and arms , ret will win by margin and be more beneficial to the group .

[steady plover]

that is why critcake parent's chose uk , see where is he now . best arms warrior in the world ?

[thick kelp]

hahahahha

[jade basalt]

lmao

[tacit pawn]

How often do we use Whirlwind as arms in keys?

[outer holly]

on cd

[clever crag]

How

Did you do it that fast

I need this on like 3 classes

War, ret, mage

[steep osprey]

Morning

[tacit pawn]

That often? Seriously?

[clever crag]

Yup

WW big

[frigid lava]

I wish rend did more dmg... it's pretty laughable

[dire hinge]

talking about the bleed or the ability rend itself?

[frigid lava]

bleed.. since i use tc

[jade basalt]

rend itself is more like a debuff anyways

[dire hinge]

does a fair amount for something we dont really have to think too much about, but yeah it's lowered quite a bit compared to Season 3 since our tier buffed rend damage

[clever crag]

Nah fuck rend

[jade basalt]

I liked when it's a manual cast for ST build only

sl s3 stuff

[clever crag]

I remember back in ToC or something where your life depended on not dropping rend

[manic stirrup]

not playing venth fury in s3 sl

weirdge

[jade basalt]

fae arms

[astral yarrow]

Entire SL had rend mandatory because it just added 10% crit damage lol

[steep osprey]

TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT

caps

[strange perch]

guys how long to get exalted with rep in remix?

[astral yarrow]

Mate you have like 3 months

[strange perch]

stil

[strange perch]

arent they dailis only?

[astral yarrow]

People would riot if it wasn’t possible fairly fast

[steep osprey]

you playing?

[frigid lava]

rep was a lot harder back then I remember

[strange perch]

yes it was, way more time

[frigid lava]

I do miss farming though

Didn't like much of raid/dungeon though. There were too long.

Prot was hella fun

[clever crag]

Ppl already maxxed out not even day in looool

[fossil thistle]

Stromkar works against trolls in MoP Remix x)

[fossil thistle]

You can buy it after doing it on one char.

[clever crag]

Aaaah

Awesome

Finally I can make Kaelthas mog

[fossil thistle]

Still has class requirements

[clever crag]

Ofc

On my mage

[fossil thistle]

😄

[clever crag]

You just need max lvl then ?

[fossil thistle]

No

Do the Landfall campaign in Krasarang WIlds, you can start it at 35

[clever crag]

Cool

Some of these sets look wayyy better than the trading post one

Can buy the weapons too ?

[fossil thistle]

@visual granite as much as you want to play

I've gotten about 34k in ~12hr

[steep osprey]

WAIT WHAT TRANSMOGS ARE THOSE??

caps lmao

[fossil thistle]

@steep osprey Trader's post Recolors 😛

[steep osprey]

oh shsit

shit

cheap too

where you get them?

[fossil thistle]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/wow-remix-mists-of-pandaria-event-rewards#trading-post-recolor-class-ensembles

Get this achievement (You can do it at 35)

Weapons requires the Isle of Thunder achieve (Which is at 45 I think?)

I've only quested

im 68 atm

prob 2hr worth of breaks though since launch

[steep osprey]

same, should I be doing more stuff

What are people doing mostly? I just quest

[fossil thistle]

If you're just gunning for the class ensembles, yea prob 5-6hr.

Raids give 0 xp

[steep osprey]

oh i can queue for lfr

[fossil thistle]

Gutted since PTR

[steep osprey]

why? that doesn't make any sense lol

[fossil thistle]

People were doing 25-70 in like 2hr

with lfr

[steep osprey]

why would I do LFR if it doesn't give me xp

[fossil thistle]

Epic gear has str on it

Green gear doesn't

[steep osprey]

I'm a monk but ok

[fossil thistle]

Agility, then xP

Dungeons could be alright if you have a pre-made group. Heroic pugs tend to wipe because its all level 10-15 people with 0 abilities that can't CC/interrupt/provide anything to a group x)

[clever crag]

And max lvl is 70 right ?

[fossil thistle]

yea

[clever crag]

So I can use this ret after and gear him right away

Nice

[fossil thistle]

Best thing about alts is the cloak

These stats on a level 10 = biiiig pumper

[clever crag]

Ill prolly do all when I max cloak to grind heritage armors

[clever crag]

Loool

[fossil thistle]

I mean with 12 tinker equips, I was just sprinting with bladestorm killing 10-15mobs at a time

Gonna try it later tonight. Im just about to hit 68 so

[steep osprey]

is leveling fast

[fossil thistle]

It's not too bad

faster then normal 1-70

[steep osprey]

Funeral Pyre is kinda op

[fossil thistle]

it's strong yea

[clever crag]

Id love to lvl my normal alts in this

I refuse to grind normal lvling its SO boring

[fossil thistle]

This combo is giving me pretty consistent 70% crit lol

[wind vault]

It's funny how in the evenings nobody is even signing for my pug keys and in the early mornings like 5am I am getting whole grps 520+ ilvl wanting to join

[fossil thistle]

Right

[clever crag]

Ill guess everybody is doing mop

[fossil thistle]

Wellll... pretty much done with remix now

[clever crag]

Since its all new content vs NO new content in s4

[clever crag]

Weapons ?

What you need for those

[fossil thistle]

6 Scenarios. bout 4-5m each

[magic canopy]

one of those is bugged for me

im on the bird and it keeps tping nme back to the base

[fossil thistle]

hmm

I take it you've tried to abandon + retake the q?

[magic canopy]

i tried

its the assualt the mines one

i get half way the birds keep multiplying that chase you and it just tps me back

[fossil thistle]

yea

Special action button

Leaps you from one to the next and you fight them

[magic canopy]

yeah i hope and kill

and im just on one

and i die

or not die

get tped

[fossil thistle]

try using Stromkar

kekw

They all just instantly feared and basically afked while I smashed em

[steep osprey]

do you get a lot more bronze lter on?

later

[magic canopy]

im at 30k bronze rn

[fossil thistle]

yea

Every mob you kill gives bronze basically. at 67 im looting 10-20

[magic canopy]

i dont do enough damage i guess

idk

[clever crag]

And the most expensive itemd go to 300k right ?

Like world boss mounts

[outer holly]

I just realized they actually did it

it wasn't an april fools joke

mop is just pve plunderstorm

[fossil thistle]

hell yea boooys

[steep osprey]

damn

[fossil thistle]

God I miss it

[steep osprey]

does it make your hands go fast

like it did

[fossil thistle]

Don't think so

it's just a visual toy

[steep osprey]

sucks

got meteor shower

it's giga

explosive barrage to

you do scenarios?

[fossil thistle]

I haven't touched any group stuff yet

[clever crag]

Fuck work I wanna PLAY this shit

[fresh spire]

We found a good combo

Slay+brittle on full team in dungeons

Do huge pulls pop cds use thunder orb

Kill one bomb watch them all chain explode

Brittle super good in dungeins

[clever crag]

Ppl already crafting meta for mop ? LOL

[somber lance]

Everything will always have a meta

Im waiting for the patchwerk sims

[lost kernel]

What the reason to play mop btw?

If i played it hard when it was actual

Dont get the hype

[magic canopy]

its just a fun side thing to level characters/get cosmetics/ earn reps easy

[lost kernel]

So cosmetics and rep u can carry to live version?

[magic canopy]

ye

[lost kernel]

Ok

[magic canopy]

the characters you level during it will also be kept in live servers

so its not like pluderstorm where you just make and lose a guy

its a fullblown toon

[lost kernel]

Character transfer only in the end of remix?

In august?

[magic canopy]

that i have no idea about tbh

[lost kernel]

The new toon from remix to actual

Ok

[magic canopy]

might let you end it vaulentarily might be in that mode until its over

[lost kernel]

Okey

[cursive sun]

but why do that tbh

raiding in mop is super fun

[somber lance]

Tfw it’s going to be even harder to find people for keys

Prolly just have to grind mop and leave s4 behind forever

[tribal sail]

hey guys, a question, im new to arms. in AOE situations do i only use bladestorm and whirlwip in warbreaker window?

like if bladestorm is up and warbreaker is still on cd?

[clever crag]

S4 will be dead af

Ill just raid log prolly

[uneven sundial]

Can anyone tell me what stats to put on the neck craft?

[opaque citrus]

Yes

All the characters get converted and get a set of basic gear at the end of the event

(Similar to just boosting a 70)

[boreal quartz]

bro says will be it hasnt been out for a month

xdd

[clever crag]

Well it has tons of content that is new and “new”

Whats new in s4 ?

[somber lance]

My bullions and smashing the meters as arms

Good enough for me

[boreal quartz]

back in sl arm doing dam wasnt new 😔

[somber lance]

Sim it. Most likely the best option is crit/haste but will depend on your gear

[clever crag]

You can do dam as ret

[boreal quartz]

Why the fuck would I care about ret

YoU cAn dO DaM aS WaRLoCk

[inner wasp]

me when i dont read the post

@lost kernel yes at the end of mop remix ur character becomes a regular toon

ilvl of gear given dependant on what level you are when you get converted

so all lvl 70s when converted will get the same lvl of gear

[sharp wyvern]

Yeah character boost ilvl

"raid ready"

[somber lance]

Wont matter anyways

New xpac

U shouldnt have a fucking 490 ilvl char from a boost anyways

[clever crag]

Raid ready ret

[summer elbow]

guys anyone has the dmg details from any m+? I want to see the max dmg from MS and Exe. Ty

The max dmg dealt.

The max number i mean

[clever crag]

I got like 998k hits max

[summer elbow]

Thats a lot

[sacred zodiac]

Hello Roidsack

[rancid knot]

look at this beaut that dropped in raid

[sacred zodiac]

gg ring

[olive nest]

Somebodies going to be pogin

[somber lance]

Its not that pog when everyone bought it with bullions xd

Happened to us last night

[sacred zodiac]

ye this wont go to someone that needs it xd

[somber lance]

Definitely the play to not buy the ring

And bribe an officier

just get it handed to you

[summer elbow]

i just boosted a 70 character.. I need doing any quest ? Or im ready to start doing pve?

[sacred zodiac]

should be able to just send it

you'll be misisng the helmet enchant quest from amirdrassil

[summer elbow]

ill try to finish all the chapters since they seems short

i should max professions? Like BS since im warrior and JC?

[sacred zodiac]

probably not

only profession that makes a difference for pve is alchemy to make some phial drawbacks less bad

[clever crag]

And glider

[lost kernel]

s4 is really dead? coz iam like only 505 itemlevel and hear doomsayings from here and there

[urban raptor]

Ominous Chromatic Essence is the first trinket to go ?

with bullions

[crystal burrow]

anyone know why my dmg is so horrendous in mop remix

[old urchin]

You can sim it. Under the raidbots droptinizer you can select “Season 4 Vendors” and it will sim all trinkets

Form the word around here there’s better options for keys unless you have a set grp with others running the other colors. In raid more likely others will have the trink so it’s more useful.

[clever crag]

Nah its just the MoP thing taking all the hype

[olive nest]

Give it like a week or two MoP hype will die down

Probably won’t even take that long for a good chunk of players

[misty iron]

I had max about a 1m MS with a fat TOM ava CS overlap, and 700k execute

[sacred zodiac]

tom in m+

this is mighty suspicious

[misty iron]

Ah shit

Didnt see m+

[rich flower]

a lot

[stable osprey]

anyone can link me a good singletarget build voor raids? (pm is fine)

[gray steeple]

Check the guides.

[astral yarrow]

I think there’s also the faq

[earnest lake]

good day to all. if my M+ group is not gonna run chromatic essence trinket what should i use along with algethar puzzle box? pocket anvil from aberrus maybe?

[quasi torrent]

used to be based

[finite spire]

arms min max check: at the mo, I'm watching my tier set and sending Cleave if it's about to drop even if Cleave doesn't have 2 stacks of Martial Prowess. Is that the correct play or?

[lime goblet]

Can I make a macro combined with charge and victory rush, or is it best to keep them both seperated?

[sacred zodiac]

ye its one of the "recommended" macros on wowhead

i personally dont feel a need for it but if you feel button bloated then you can use it

[lime goblet]

Is it just made as a
/cast charge
/cast victory rush

As you can hear I havent really tried macros before

[sacred zodiac]

should be ye

i mean you can just try it, worst thing itll do is not work

[lime goblet]

Can I make it so I dont have to press it twice, or will it always needs to be pressed twice?

[sacred zodiac]

you should only have to press it once

[lime goblet]

cool ty!

[rancid willow]

If Im running Blood & Thunder, do I ever need to use Rend?

[fervent raven]

no

[sacred zodiac]

nah you can unbind it

[rancid willow]

thx

[lime goblet]

Hmmmm right now I need to press it twice, for it to work

[sacred zodiac]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/best-macros-addons

copy the one from the utility section

[lime goblet]

Cool thanks!

[lime goblet]

Ahhh it seems it still have to be 2 presses, its just change depending on if you are close or not

[sacred zodiac]

i'm confused about what you mean

im loading into the game to test it

[quasi torrent]

hate the game

[lime goblet]

What i wanted was to charge a mob, and then my character use victory rush when it arrives, by just 1 press. This makes it so i have to press to charge, then press again to use victory rush

[quasi torrent]

when is hershadow gonna be yuge

[quasi torrent]

That is not a thing

[sacred zodiac]

yeah you cannot combine abilities like that

[lime goblet]

I see, that I did not know

Alrighty well then the macros work

[sacred zodiac]

she 25

[lime goblet]

But not sure if I would even combine them then, since if i dont have victory rush on a keybind, it can be difficult to tell if its up or not

[quasi torrent]

just get 2 seperate binds

[quasi torrent]

weak

andagoat is 50 or smth

i forgor

[sacred zodiac]

sorry for not grinding the entire event in 1 day

[lime goblet]

Wouldnt you combine them, to save a keybind?

[quasi torrent]

You dont have 10000 buttons on warr, you'll be fine

just get used to ctrl and shift mods and youll be golden

[quasi torrent]

Noob!!!

[lime goblet]

I might just combine them, then put victory rush on a bar that I dont use, so I atleast can see when its ready

[quasi torrent]

cooldown tracking lore

[lime goblet]

Is that a addon?

[quasi torrent]

no, that's what you're doing.

[lime goblet]

ohhh lmao

[quasi torrent]

Youre tracking the cooldown of VR with that (realistically IV, cause u should always have that specced)

where F

or G

imbecile

L

L

[lime goblet]

ty for the help

[sacred zodiac]

imbecile moment

[storm lark]

If your F is not CS dont talk to me

[sacred zodiac]

@lime goblet you might want to look into weakauras, most of us use it to track some sort of cd at least

[quasi torrent]

no u do not change SR between specs

thats psychotic

stop typing

[sacred zodiac]

ctrl+windows+alt+shift+l for SR

[quasi torrent]

find a job

NOW!

[sacred zodiac]

oh its shift not caps

[quasi torrent]

Yea

[sacred zodiac]

funniest way to tell someone to get a job

[quasi torrent]

🎰

funniest way to...

[halcyon breach]

Banezimagus is ramping

currently fourty

[quasi torrent]

four and ty???

holy guacamole!

[halcyon breach]

four ty

[fringe moon]

If you had to choose between WW or Frost DK for mop remix, which would you play?

[quasi torrent]

id log off if those were my options

[fringe moon]

WW is bound to get a rework at some point right? lol

[opaque citrus]

WW is getting reworked early next xpac and is also just really good in general rn regardless

plus thematic

[rare kite]

ye getting reworked in tww, it looks so goddamn good

[fringe moon]

I hardly see any WW on retail outside of mistweavers.

[clever crag]

Wtf they getting reworked ??

Loved ww in Legion

[rare kite]

yes, it's basically antorus ww on steroids

whoever cooked the ww rework deserves 3 michelin stars, that shit is immaculate

[clever crag]

Very nice

[dire hinge]

I’ve been doing frost DK and it’s quite cozy, but it’s a light-hearted event— try one and if you don’t like it just try another one 🥰

I’ll probably swap unholy once I’m done leveling, I just wanted something that was less cooldown dependent for questing

[steep osprey]

I'm playing a ww on remix

so i can play it for TWW

Antorus WW was goated

[hazy flower]

Cntrl F interrupt

Xddd

Shift 2 focus interrupt shift 1 mouseover interrupt

[rare kite]

good choice, i'm playing ww on retail but super super casually. even tho ww is pretty badly designed right now i still enjoy it

[livid thunder]

So I'm picking up arms for the first time for mop remix and i'm a bit confused with rend and blood and thunder

wowhead rotation guide says here to use thunder clap

doesn't mention rend at all, even though it does more ST damage?

so what should I cast (in ST), rend or TC?

or both? at some point?

[rare kite]

tc over rend, remove rend from your bars

tc spends more rage

[livid thunder]

okay so rend is never used as is? sort of like serpent sting for hunters?

[rare kite]

i do not know anything about hunters but yeah rend is never pressed

[livid thunder]

even though rend does more damage in ST? we want TC for the cdr from rage spent i assume?

for this

thus

[rare kite]

the cdr, the guaranteed overpower reset and for test of might

[quasi torrent]

its more about tactician guaranteeing a reset with TC over rend

But they're all factors.

[livid thunder]

gotcha, thanks guys

[steep osprey]

Whirling Dragon Punch giving 4 stacks of Teachings is insane

Blackout kick nut worthy when it hits so many times

[rare kite]

oh ye and it stacking up to 8 times, 4 stacks from before press wdp holy moly

[steep osprey]

I'm trying to see what the hero powers look like but I can't find them anywhere

on video

Shado-Pan specifically

[rare kite]

this new talent pretty sick as well

[steep osprey]

8% haste

sheesh

Is haste good for WW in TWW?

[rare kite]

ye, for the first time ever haste is good for ww

[steep osprey]

previous glory is so bad lmao

barely does anything

[steep osprey]

so during lust you can kick it twice all the time?

I assume Invoker's delight is still in?

probably nerfed

[rare kite]

it is indeed nerfed, iirc it's 20% now but not updated on talent calc

[steep osprey]

Nice

[rare kite]

had to be nerfed, would be wayyy too strong

[steep osprey]

oh this owns

100% haste lust + invoker

I can imagine this getting up to 20% lol

[grave kiln]

how do i get recklessness as arms?

[rare kite]

yee gonna be crazy, kinda worried that wft is gonna be good for monk in tww tho

[rare kite]

you get it for free when pressing avatar and colossus smash. talent warlords torment

[steep osprey]

remove wft honestly

or make all shamans ahve it

[rare kite]

like this shit sounds too strong with wft

[steep osprey]

Just make it not work with wft

easy fix

[rare kite]

ye like they did for pala

[steep osprey]

not worried about that if they fixed for pala

[rare kite]

blizz not very consistent with stuff like that tho, wft works with annihilator, devastator and the dh thing

[steep osprey]

yeah but this is way better

especially if it increases your damage dealt by 5%

[rare kite]

yee wft would increase the uptime by quite a bit

[steep osprey]

exactly

I don't know how shado pan works

like wouldn't this be worse the more into expansion u are

[gaunt owl]

this is Arms channel

get that filth out of here !

its a perfectly scaling talent

[rare kite]

ye you right usually fury is the general chat

[steep osprey]

lmao

[timber lynx]

As long as its base max health it wont be too bad

if it includes stuff like fort though GG LMAO

[steep osprey]

/cancelaura Holy Word: Fortitude

[timber lynx]

Fr

[steep osprey]

no cap

[rare kite]

rally makes you lose dps

[steep osprey]

Jealous warriors can make them lose dps

[timber lynx]

based

actively rallying during my monks cd’s to sabotage him

[steep osprey]

[gaunt owl]

priest buff is a dps nerf

imagine

[wicked aurora]

Blizz really wants me to play WW next expansion

or monk in general

Brew is getting less aids

WW is getting hella nice QoL stuff

[steep osprey]

What does Blackout! do?

[gaunt owl]

i wont allow you to push this agenda

[wicked aurora]

free blackout kick

[rare kite]

big damage on the free blackout kick

[steep osprey]

It's not anywhere

[wicked aurora]

you know I used to main monk until about halfway through Legion?

[gaunt owl]

i started as Monk too

[steep osprey]

This is antorus set

[rare kite]

yuh like i said earlier, this is just antorus monk but on steroids

we Sam sulek over here

[wicked aurora]

I just hated what they did to the class with the removal of Chi

[steep osprey]

They removed chi?

[wicked aurora]

Chi BrM and MW was BiS

[wicked aurora]

from two specs in legion yeah

[steep osprey]

Oh F

[rare kite]

this with 8 stacks of teachings inside your cds and it's gonna slap so beyond hard

[wicked aurora]

used to have to have Chi to use brews and do rotation in BrM

and Enveloping Mist costed Chi

for MW

[steep osprey]

does it affect every single one?

[rare kite]

ye should do, since the others aren't casts. they are extra hits

[wicked aurora]

Brew gaining like 4 keybinds alone is going to make that spec so much more fun/fluid to play

[steep osprey]

Did they revamp brew talents too?

[wicked aurora]

yeah

not nearly as much

[rare kite]

and the class tree as well, new class tree owns

[wicked aurora]

but they've lost a couple things which had knockon effects

[steep osprey]

Do you guys prefer ShadoPan or celestial hero talent

[wicked aurora]

no longer have white tiger statue or bonedust brew for BrM

[rare kite]

celestial by quite a bit

[timber lynx]

Celestial is really cool

[wicked aurora]

They also lost Resonating Fists which means RJW lost a shit ton of value and puts Special Delivery in a much more competitive spot

[timber lynx]

im a fan of it also

[wicked aurora]

I haven't had access to alpha so no comment on which is cooler

[steep osprey]

iirc ww used to have a passive called Wind Walk

that increased your MS

[wicked aurora]

yeah

still exists

kinda

[steep osprey]

Jade Walk?

[gaunt owl]

what new class tree ?

[steep osprey]

Thank god they moved Fast feet so far up

[gaunt owl]

for Monk ?

[steep osprey]

what was 70% damage to SRK doing so far down

[steep osprey]

yes

[gaunt owl]

so we all hop on the monk train

[steep osprey]

This isn't skyhold anymore