arms

[sacred zodiac]

your data set is not meaningful enough to claim that anvil is bugged or broken or not performing as the sim suggests

[drifting heart]

mmh that's fair

[cyan lagoon]

What's a respectable end-of-the-dungeon details for AA?

[sacred zodiac]

not liking the variance of it is valid but then you have to gear something silly like oce+icon which sims like several thousands lower than anvil/signet

[weak saffron]

I just now read your answer Deswind, thank you! Not sure if you're going to read this lol.

[obsidian wave]

@cyan lagoon with your name on top bb

[sacred zodiac]

dunno like 500k-1mil? there is no real answer since your dungeon damage is so dependent on tank, group comp, procs, route, affixes, level, etc

if you timed the key and werent significantly behind your other dps in boss damage or overall damage then you did fine probably

[cloud lagoon]

I just met a time walking min maxer. Gear from every single expansion one-shots the boss in under one-second O_o

20k dps

[cyan lagoon]

Baby 10 AA so I guess I just barely make the cut?

[languid yoke]

I know i write this once, but if i didnt have Fyrakk weapon i still go 2x ring Voti?

[cyan lagoon]

I'm just still super confused on the AoE arms rotation

Feels like I'm always messing up

and I'm not using my leggo enough either

[sacred zodiac]

if you have enough sources of fire damage yeah they'll still be really good

[tough tangle]

Bro if you’re messing up what’s that frost mage doing

[languid yoke]

xD

[obsidian wave]

Mans blurred their names out

[languid yoke]

@sacred zodiac Thanks sir

[sacred zodiac]

it won't be as good as with legendary though

if in doubt, sim yourself

[languid yoke]

Sims shows its a upgrade of course, but i just wondering. I have my warrior only 2 weeks, and i think i need another 4 probably to get legendary

i just take askhandur for bulions because in this time i need just luck to drop it

[sacred zodiac]

oh if your warrior is 2 weeks old you will probably not get legendary before the end of the season

unless you're killing mythic fyrakk every week

[languid yoke]

only lfr/normal/hc

[strange perch]

man says he prolly needs 4 weeks to get leggo

sir i am on week 11

[languid yoke]

ohh

[sacred zodiac]

only need to kill the highest difficulty you have available, killing the lower ones doesn't increase your chances

[languid yoke]

im optimistic then xD

[sacred zodiac]

you're guaranteed legendary after your 15th kill on hc

[strange perch]

i think its 14th

[languid yoke]

oh than i think i can say goodbay to legendary

bye*

[sacred zodiac]

but ashkandur + head enchant + maybe a shadowflame patch is good enough to make the rings worth it

[strange perch]

you can run it anyway, maybe youll get lucky

[languid yoke]

yea i will keep trying of course

[sacred zodiac]

the 14th kill gives you enough BLP to make the 15th kill a guaranteed drop

[outer holly]

Whichever one you think it is, it's always somehow 1 more kill

[strange perch]

ah that makes sense

yeah ill probably be like this after my 15th kill

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

[languid yoke]

Maybe its sad i didnt experiance playing with legendary but like this switch to warrior, its rly fun to play spec

[teal marsh]

Hi Guys, I just joined this channel and I feel I messed up my bullions

I saved 4 to get the trinket and a ring

went to wow head for the BIS

[strange perch]

most melee are compared to ranged

[teal marsh]

but here says the augury is the BIS

[strange perch]

youre fine, do you have lego?

first bullion should be upgrade lego

[obsidian wave]

You will get 14 heroic kills, then TWW will release on your 15th

[strange perch]

ill have 1 week to enjoy lego with no one online rofl

i have 528 ash, so its whatever. the extra 20k from lego would be nice. but, i already smash on people with the lego so its cool

[sacred zodiac]

are you sure you're not misreading something? nowhere does it say that augury is bis for arms

[strange perch]

Best trinket is very flexible depending on whether your group is capable of maximizing OCE/Icon, you're building for 3m fights (emphasizes Embersoul, Branch, Augury), or longer 5m fights (Brand, Anvil, Augury). If you want something middle ground or for flexing between Arms and Fury, Augury might be the best choice.

[teal marsh]

I read the last update channel

anyway. It can't be too far off

I got the essence

[strange perch]

nah youre fine, aug is cool

[tough tangle]

Augury is bis for fury, not arms

Perhaps you’re asking the incorrect channel

[sacred zodiac]

aug is bis for fury and alright for arms, thats why archi said its a good flex option if you play both

[tough tangle]

Yes that’s true

[sacred zodiac]

if you ended up buying ring + oce you made probably somewhat close to the best choice for raiding

[teal marsh]

you are right. I rushed in.

[sacred zodiac]

what did you buy lol you're talking as if you made some irredeemable mistake while its probably fine

[strange perch]

youre fine, its really not a big deal

[tough tangle]

Gnarlroot trinket I bet

[teal marsh]

Seal of durna's chosen and chromatic essence

[sacred zodiac]

ye thats perfect

[strange perch]

so you didnt buy aug?

or you were thinking about it

[teal marsh]

no, Ithough I shoudpve bought aug instead of essence

[strange perch]

ah no, i run oce and diurna ring

[gray steeple]

Assuming people are even raiding next week on lol

[strange perch]

alot of ppl here do

sorry was adding to my comment Axekandi

[limber bear]

anyone got build advice for raszageth? I know on heroic it's a bit of a prog fight but we got stuck at phase 2.5 last night and I was just thinking "man shockwave might be really good for these adds"

that said, being melee for phase 2.5 is cringe all around. playing fuckin hokey pokey with the breath

[sacred zodiac]

just play the regular ST build you'll be fine

[strange perch]

i feel like the wowhead st raid build is for most bosses?

maybe not council and what not

[sacred zodiac]

hc spawns two adds right? you can just roar them when they meet in the middle and keep single targetting an add

[limber bear]

oh I was fine, it's a matter of guild skill issue. regardless was just wondering if shockwave was at all viable for that fight. I took stormbolt to deal with my own spark

[sacred zodiac]

oh wait hc spawns sparks?

drop stormbolt for fear

[limber bear]

oh that's a much better idea

[sacred zodiac]

you can deal with 5 sparks every other phase

then you get the kick macro and you'll deal with like a fourth of the sparks on your own

[limber bear]

heroic

• sparks have "2 stacks" (need to interrupts/cc them twice)
• phase 2.5: 2 big adds, little adds running back and forth between the 2 big ones

but we're doing fine on sparks, we got stuck on the little adds

[sacred zodiac]

its not really your problem to deal with the adds im afraid

[limber bear]

fair enough, i'll tell my raid lead

[sacred zodiac]

shockwave is too expensive vs whatever aoe stuns your other raiders get access to

[limber bear]

i AM a tauren tho

[sacred zodiac]

the best you can do is roar when they're stacked

[limber bear]

so i got that booty stomp

[sacred zodiac]

id rather you not do that and dr them

idk if your stomp drs

if you time a good roar you can do several millions to the little shitters travelling between the adds

[proud plover]

been a while since i did heroic raz but arent those little adds prio to make sure thy dead to stop the big adds from haeling or whatever

[limber bear]

yes

[sacred zodiac]

i mean ye but assuming proper cc and people pressing buttons they shouldnt be a problem

in mythic we massgripped the adds and then aoe slowed them and i think threw one aoe stun and the adds were dead by then without me even touching them the numbers check should be infinitely lower in hc

[limber bear]

yeah, we cruised through most of heroic but then got stuck on raz so we've made a BUNCH of adjustments

• cut the fat from the raid
• i made vantus runes
• did stuff since last night so we're all SLIGHTLY stronger

[stiff jay]

guys, i need some help, im a main rogue ol, started playing arms like a week ago, and i feel like i need to pay 300 times more attention than my ol rogue lol, because of how random arms is ( will MS get out of cd before my gcd? will my overpower? my sd will proc? ) i feel it is so fucking random that it keep me pay more attentio non my wa than whats going on around me, thats a matter of getting used or something? i really like the class but so far this is a littlle annoying

[proud plover]

what tanks you running

[stiff jay]

things poppin out of nowhere

[limber bear]

blood and prot pally

[sacred zodiac]

there is a decent amount of procs and resetting going on but its all very very predictable based off of the talents we picked, the cd for mortal strike is very exactly 3 gcds between mortal strikes

its a lot of getting used to imo

[stiff jay]

i mean, sometimes MS pops 2 time on a row and there is no indicative, same as sudden death

[proud plover]

ms resets with enough time to use it on the gcd so you cna always us it if it resets

[stiff jay]

is really random

[sacred zodiac]

it depends on your talents

you're probably running the talent that makes overpower have a chance to reset mortal strike, maybe you're running the talent that makes MS have a chance to reset its own cd

[stiff jay]

pretty often i press WW or CLAP and the second im pressing the key i see that MS became available, thats kinda frustrating

[stiff jay]

warlord build

or pure st

w/e

[fringe moon]

I’d recommend your group lust on the adds in P2.5 if you’re struggling

[proud plover]

^^

helps kill adds

[sacred zodiac]

then you're probably only running the overpower resets MS talent

[stiff jay]

yep

[sacred zodiac]

if you pay attention then MS should only reset its cd when you press OP or after 3 gcds have passed

[fringe moon]

Because once you get past the adds swapping 1x, you’d want to burn them so there’s no more converging of small adds. Then P3 is pretty straightforward so you don’t really need lust there
@limber bear

[proud plover]

in that build ONLY op resets mortal sstrik

[stiff jay]

and sometimes op procs too

out of gods know what

[sacred zodiac]

thats tactician

[stiff jay]

thats amount of rage spent

isnt?

[proud plover]

yes

[sacred zodiac]

for every point of rage you spend you have a chance to reset a stack of OP

[proud plover]

spnding 40 rage is 100% chance to rreset op

[sacred zodiac]

at 40+ rage its guaranteed to reset a stack

[stiff jay]

god its fun but its so random

[sacred zodiac]

we're telling you its not random its predictable !!

[stiff jay]

:S

[proud plover]

go spend 10 mins on a st target dummy

[stiff jay]

i mean, im at full rage, 2 stacks of op, spend rage to accel next warbreaker or op for dmg

ms better wait to 2 stacks or w/e just press it

[proud plover]

every global think - is mortal strike castable and if so press it
did sudden death proc just before i pressed mortal strike
mortal strike is on cd and i pressed sudden death now i need to press overpower this cast might reset mortal strike

[sacred zodiac]

martial prowess has no impact on your ST rotation

[proud plover]

it reset cool i prress mortal strike
it didnt reset ok i press op

[stiff jay]

but if full rage is better to spend it before pressing op again right?

on random bs like ww

[proud plover]

ms > sd > opx2 > when you get to here you care about sspending rage to reset op

[stiff jay]

got it

[shadow ibex]

if you at 2 stacks of OP and you have another OP to cast, you messed up somewhere. only way thats possible is like OPwith x2 charges ready- slam reset OP- OP and have 1 remaining charge. and by now mortal strike will be ready to press so you would MS

[stiff jay]

though wouldnt press op with full rage

[proud plover]

cosmtic rage bar in dragonflight - you only care about your min rage now - sub 40 and overcapping isnt rrally a thing

[sacred zodiac]

not really, the major critique of this current arms rotation is that the rage bar is somewhat irrelevant until execute, and you don't really care about overcapping rage too much

[proud plover]

yes press op- op does alot of damage and can reset ms

[stiff jay]

god it

as a main rogue its really weird to overcap resources lol

so prob where im most messing up

on tww the rage bar still cosmetic? kek

[proud plover]

kinda mid - generrate less rage but spenderrs are all cheaper

[stiff jay]

eh, thats something

[lone imp]

ah yes, NA beta testing in action again

[proud plover]

still the same prio rotation

[dusty rune]

dude the fuck. My warrior is just perma frozen ingame, like lagging out, every other character works.

[proud plover]

its a weak aura imo

[summer elbow]

anyone playin from europe in america? isn't lag too hard?

[proud plover]

i get the same issue on my warr from time to time then update and it fixeess it

[dusty rune]

Aint n oway its a WA. Have my homecooked ones and raid / dungeon pack.

[sacred zodiac]

its like 100-200ms its not too bad

some liquid raiders live in the EU shrug

[summer elbow]

i don't play since shadowlands.. and im about to boost a warrior, im going arms.. So our best dmg buttom is MS now? How about execute? Is what i love from playing arms.. How is our aoe atm? Our st?

[sacred zodiac]

the wowhead arms overhead page is probably what you're looking for if you want a super simple overview over the spec

we're busted in st and fine in m+

[dire hinge]

All content types are quite good right now for arms, outside of being unable to handle m+ affixes.

For what it’s worth, we do press execute a lot, but MS looks higher on the meters because MS gets significantly boosted by a debuff put on our target by Executing

[proud plover]

execute is a great feeling button in a raid fight long enough to allow jugg to stack up - mortal strike is by far the hardest hitting ability we have with all its modifyers (1 mill +)

the real fun button is sweeping strikes + op/dn in a huge pack

[inner terrace]

are wow servers insane rn

[lone imp]

our whole lockout just got reset

in amirdrassil

as we were standing there about to sell mounts lol

[inner terrace]

i keep getting DC'd and my dungeon queue bugged out

[lone imp]

Yeah that too

[dusty sorrel]

so at what % do we start to get DRs on stats?

[teal fossil]

30 for non mastery stats

mastery is weird

just sim

[dusty sorrel]

I thought simming stats was broken on raidbots

[teal fossil]

you dont sim stats

you sim gear

[dusty sorrel]

well I've been getting no drops lol

and I feel like my stats are just a little too high on haste/crit

[rare kite]

sim gems/enchants as well

by doing topgear sims you will find out if you have too much haste/crit

[molten crane]

do you gyys go ST raid build or m+ cleave build for council?

[sacred zodiac]

you can look up what builds ppl ran on wclogs

most ppl just ran the one bladestorm m+ build tho

[reef glade]

def aoe build

i double bladestorm

reaping strikes cleave

[sacred zodiac]

perhish!

[reef glade]

goes hard

[sacred zodiac]

?

@reef glade

[reef glade]

there a problem

the invisible fire was so troll tho

bosses got moved away from eachother and tank got frozen

cuz couldnt clear

[sacred zodiac]

direct x 11 moment

(directx 11 fixes this)

[reef glade]

yea

found out after the boss

[raven nymph]

Before we knew the DX11 hack we just had someone who could see them stream it over discord. Doesn’t everyone have 2 monitors?

[tough steppe]

i might have too much crit 🤔

[inner wasp]

heres my hot take

private auras can be a good thing actually

[tiny dock]

how do you guys get your bleeds to be so high in m+

i swear i'm doing the same shit i see others do

[latent moss]

some of them were good

but ones like

hearts on echo

[tiny dock]

or is my tank just not pulling big enough

[latent moss]

fyrakk intermission

are just evil

smolderon hearts as well

[inner wasp]

i heard fyrakk intermission was aids

[latent moss]

are just evil

[inner wasp]

but i never did mythic echo

what was so bad about the hearts

[latent moss]

if u were ranged u had to press a macro

count through a weakaura

to find ur position

then move there in 2 seconds

otherwise u wipe

[inner wasp]

do u not just spread them apart

[woven wasp]

its easy nowadays

used to be very tight

needed pretty precise positioning

[inner wasp]

but like

i have no idea why wowhead comments are so pissy over private auras

[woven wasp]

"just spreading" would not work

[latent moss]

its impossible in a raid of 20 people

[inner wasp]

i think the game is more fun when addons dont just tell me what to do?

[strange perch]

is there a way to see if i was in dstance all last dungeon? rofl

[inner wasp]

yea that makes sense

[latent moss]

to call where everyone should go

[woven wasp]

the circles were too big with too little a duration to spread without a plan

[rare kite]

Well it went on random players, 1 melee and the others ranged. the melee spot was the same everytime, lets say if all the other ranged players were spread and the heart went on 2 that were spread in the same corner that would give an extremely short amount of time to react

[latent moss]

^

[inner wasp]

but thats an encounter design problem

not a private auras problem per se

[woven wasp]

https://fxtwitter.com/Dratnos/status/1790907009438744653

it makes an appearance deservingly at "bad mechanic made even worse"

[inner wasp]

like

yea, the mechanic is bad

but the answer to me isnt "make a weakaura that makes it trivial"

its "make the mechanic not bad"

[woven wasp]

i mean yeah thats what it is now

but that doesnt mean anything

because it wasnt like that

[inner wasp]

i dont like autopiloting thru mechanics according to what the WA tells me

but also if its a real shit mechanic

i get it

but also like, thats blizz fault

like sure, hearts are bad
but are hearts less bad when the WA completely trivializes it? no its just not real anymore

idk, im rambling and no guild would want me as a mythic raider so lmao

[woven wasp]

thats the point

there was no automation

you had to read a priority list and figure out the corresponding position in 5s

then make sure youre spread far enough

[inner wasp]

oh was it not just name to marker

[woven wasp]

i think they were 25 yards originally?

no

[inner wasp]

also maybe im spoiled by warrior brain and being able to leap to instantly clear a mechanic

probably a lot more terrible if you have to not leap/charge everywhere

[rare kite]

ye ofcourse some classes had an easier time with it, all melee had it easy as only 1 melee gets the mechanic.

[inner wasp]

well im used to just pretending ranged doesnt exist until its time to flame

[terse osprey]

If i dont have leggy axe what weapon should i go for?

[inner wasp]

ashkandur

[rancid knot]

brand/anvil? or brand/oce?

for raids

[sacred zodiac]

depends how long the fight is

[fossil thistle]

Rewarded for carrying a normal run

Decent decent... I guess

[rancid knot]

hmm oce is not simming well for me even with full ally buffs

only 1000 dps over my grapnel

[rare kite]

link the sim?

[rancid knot]

sorry hoof

ok we do mastery for oce buff? right? i tried all 4 and that was the highest

[rare kite]

what you do depends on your character, if mastery is the highest for you then you do mastery

[vague nova]

for m+ do we Cleave only on 2 MP stacks on not on cd for 5/6 + targets?

do we not waste resets that way?

[rancid knot]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oEq1oeVemhDpVUf3QwHNEB
i set it up again i realized i had hunter buff on lol but still its only 0.7% upgrade over hoof and my hoof is only 519

i dont have leggo

[wild heart]

juiced

[fossil thistle]

Huge

Buffed or unbuffed? 👀

[wild heart]

raid buffed

[fossil thistle]

nice

Food+Phial+Rune

giggles in avoidance +Speed drops

[dry frost]

What are yall dropping to take indimidating shout and storm bolt on myth raz?

Honed reflexes and 1x overwhelming rage?

[rare kite]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7okePfvuiFtR8WxRDf3xEp

simmed it for you

[rancid knot]

thank you. what did i do wrong? also which buff did you select? was it still mastery?

[rare kite]

i selected haste, checked all the invidual buffs except the all stats one.

[wild heart]

Honed and pain and gain

[inner wasp]

https://i.imgur.com/Yeb6J7x.png what does this math out to being

is it like 2 and a half hp/sec

[fossil thistle]

Very little

[inner wasp]

trolls should get the same regeneration as ztrolls smh

[rancid knot]

ok got it thank you

[rare kite]

your sim was 4min long which was a bit weird, other than that idk what you did wrong

[uneven yacht]

dumb question but what does arms have to proc fire ring

[sacred zodiac]

legendary, head enchant, embellishment if you have a shadowflame one

ashkandur if you dont have legendary

legendary p much caps out the procrate tho

[rare kite]

trinkets that do fire damage as well(not augury tho)

[frigid lava]

those vault rings really shine when u have legendary

nice

[wary raft]

only differences I can find is your sim was on latest his was on nightly, also a nonissue of augment rune but that means 0

[rare kite]

Ye and maybe his flask uptime was lower. Have mine on 90%

[strange perch]

what build do yall run for M+

theres so many

[rare kite]

Bladestorm(warlords)

[grand idol]

I run storm on fort and just the old jugg with warbreaker/in for the kill for Tyrannical.

[limber bear]

^^^

altho both are fine, they excel at slightly different things

jugg you will be pulling even on both bosses or adds

storm pulls away on adds but is slightly more lacking on bosses

[grand idol]

And for some dungeons I run jugg on fort too when pulls just cant be big enough or jugg is super valuable, like halls.

[limber bear]

that's the cool part about arms

the core of the build stays the same, then you build into a niche depending on what content you do or just what you like to play. Most of the multitarget builds are competitive one way or another

[grand idol]

i also sometimes start a key in full single target and it works out fine.

[strange perch]

yeah i noticed all of the builds were fairly close talent wise

[karmic briar]

does anyone got that charge>bladestorm>release meme

[obsidian wave]

gamers, from a minmax perspective what is the best tertiary stat? leech or speed?

[jade basalt]

[fresh tide]

Both

[karmic briar]

found it

[fresh tide]

seriously though the DR builds up really quickly on speed/avoidance/leech, so you're unlikely to see significant gains past 2 or 3 pieces that rolled it

[jade basalt]

lmao

[rancid knot]

to clarify, it's charge -> thunder clap -> cleave -> bladestorm right? because my bladestorm still feels like i am hitting them with wet noodles

[karmic briar]

pretty much put all bleeds on before you bladestorm

[rancid knot]

oops i mean

[fresh tide]

that's normal, bladestorm is just there to buff roar

[karmic briar]

so charge clap roar then bladestorm then sweeping with overpower cleave/ms depending on target quantiyy

[rancid knot]

charge -> thunder clap -> cleave -> roar -> avatar -> bladestorm?

[karmic briar]

think clap puts rend on everything

[jade basalt]

[karmic briar]

^

[rancid knot]

avatar/colossus together

[jade basalt]

isn't it 5t limited

doesn't mean that you have to wait until the next clap tho

[karmic briar]

think its reduced dmg over 5 targets

[jade basalt]

ah, i meant the free rend

[fresh tide]

it only rends the 5 closest targets, yeah

[karmic briar]

aah so cleave bleeds everythin then

[jade basalt]

nah that's for the tier set buff

[fresh tide]

yeah, warbreaker/bladestorm also put up DW

[karmic briar]

not talking about dws talking about rend tho.

wish i ahdnt closed the game already

[fresh tide]

Cleave doesn't rend

[white vale]

man, forgot how good the healing from broodkeeper's ring was, like 30% of my self heals lol

[karmic briar]

so just gotta clap for the rends then

[jade basalt]

yeah

[white vale]

did like 7m healing on rasz

[jade basalt]

only ms at execute range gives free rend with the talent

[fresh tide]

broodkeeper ring is sick, yeah

[jade basalt]

I thought its healing isn't that big cause ive been playing blood mainly this season

[karmic briar]

i mean the shield will count as healing even if it dont block anything

[jade basalt]

the shield is huge but my heal goes up to 700k so it shows like 4%

[obsidian wave]

Does anyone know if Avoidance has a cap still @ 20%?

[jade basalt]

I think so

though it's mostly not possible to reach that point at first

[fresh tide]

Avoidance cap isn't reasonable to achieve, yeah

if it exists

[obsidian wave]

Is there also a cap for speed and leech?

[rain lance]

was capped at 20% in BFA iirc

for avoidance

I dont know if its been updated since then

[strange perch]

is hoi garbage this week or what

3 failed keys in a row

[dire hinge]

the dragon hallway can be a bit spicy, with raging

or if an affix gets off during ice boss it's prettttty rough

[cursive steeple]

im about to get an augury over signet brand, yolo?

[dire hinge]

augury is a lot more flexible across all content and specs, nothing wrong with doing that. Signet Brand takes a long time to ramp up, and you can always buy it later if you end up wanting it

[steady prawn]

hi guys, when should we press cleave ?

[steady prawn]

i have trouble understanding the part between ( ), does that mean only against 4+ target and during sweeping strikes ?

[rough dirge]

It means it's only worth if there are 4 targets or more if you do it during SS
If less targets , during SS , better do mortal strike as stated line 9

[turbid sequoia]

Guys, what's the best items to spend bullions on for arms if I can't get the legendary

like, in order of priority

[steady prawn]

alright, thanks a lot for your answers, what about outisde of sweeping strikes ?

[rough dirge]

Outside SS I would say , it kinda depends
If you have prio target I would better send the MS with the stacks and then cleave
If not, I guess send cleave with the stacks from 3 targets or more

[steady prawn]

right, makes sense

thanks a lot once again guys, have a good one !

[obtuse minnow]

Am I right in reading this as "Do not cast Thunderous Roar during the Execute Phase against a single target, UNLESS you're in the Test-of-Might/In-for-the-Kill buff windows?

[rough dirge]

Yes

[obtuse minnow]

Lovely! Thanks so much

[jade basalt]

but inside execute phase, your smash cd is reduced much more than normal so you end up having the buff all time

[obtuse minnow]

You should ONLY cast Cleave when you have two stacks of Martial Prowess AND you're against 4+ enemies?

[grand idol]

I find it best not to overthink it. if there are a few enemies it likely means the pull is small because its dangerous and theres likely something you should be mortal striking down. if there are a lot of enemies then cleave away.

but thats just how I apporach it

[cinder remnant]

is it worth pressing WW in execute phase? Im used to stop that and using all my rage on executes.

[latent moss]

no

[eternal vortex]

No WW in execute phase

[frigid lava]

execute phase is all about buffing MS

[slow saddle]

No ww

[eternal vortex]

Yup use that 2 stacks of EP

[slow saddle]

Just sexecution

[eternal vortex]

and stack Ashen Jurggernaut

[latent moss]

i will not spread the curse

[eternal vortex]

Pls dont we warriors cant decurse

[latent moss]

tbf i didnt even check

[cinder remnant]

good, thx

[eternal vortex]

Gotta yell at healers

[latent moss]

prob not an increase with this tierset

[wary raft]

reflect the disease from the rothexers at the end of BH and chase everyone around with the circle

[latent moss]

last tier was just so fucking mid

[boreal quartz]

yeppa

[eternal vortex]

Yup

[latent moss]

there was a lot of annoying tech

no one wanted to play with

[cinder remnant]

we need another button "Useless Cry" to yell on healers for decurse

[boreal quartz]

use voice chat

[eternal vortex]

Btw did y’all do ulduar TW

[boreal quartz]

why would I

[slow saddle]

Ye why?

[eternal vortex]

Was wondering how the raid is in terms of difficulty

[quasi torrent]

easy

[eternal vortex]

Im assuming its like TBT TW

[quasi torrent]

like very easy

[wary raft]

all tw raids are basically LFR

literally brain off W key into the boss and steamroll it

[trim arrow]

wear funny azerite gear

for bigger pp

[wary raft]

I had a full tw set back in SL

then when they gutted all the gems and ilvl 90 something gear

[latent moss]

smourne is bis right

[trim arrow]

no

[latent moss]

for tw

[wary raft]

no

[trim arrow]

bis is jackhammer

[boreal quartz]

tusks are BIS

[latent moss]

tf is that

[trim arrow]

or singing crystal axe

[wary raft]

singing crystal axe

[trim arrow]

a boe

from uhh

[boreal quartz]

rarest wep in thegame

basically

[trim arrow]

one of the classic dungeons

[wary raft]

I bought mine for like 250k p cheap

[boreal quartz]

last seen on AH like 2 years ago

[trim arrow]

also fun fact

[latent moss]

tw set 🤓

[boreal quartz]

axe or hammr

[trim arrow]

smf fury is actually good

in tw

[wary raft]

axe

[boreal quartz]

ah dont care then

hammer is the flex item

[latent moss]

if only i didnt have to drop talents

to pick up smf

[trim arrow]

you can only wear 2p tier though

since azerite

df item squish screwed over old sets

[magic canopy]

arms is goofy in raid

almost no boss lives long enough to get its actual value lmao

[frigid lava]

ppl are all overgeared already... unless mythic i guess

[magic canopy]

in mythic

[quasi torrent]

we did dathea without sending anyone up

fucking joke

[boreal quartz]

we did 1 platf cuz we stink

😔

[quasi torrent]

our dps wasnt particularly good anyway idk

https://i.imgur.com/94ecDrQ.png warr diffed

wcyd

[boreal quartz]

i bled out

[quasi torrent]

cant really compare dps if u did upstairs phase

[boreal quartz]

[boreal quartz]

this is filtered to boss

even with pad we have 900k less dps

[daring heron]

damn are we already at that point of overgearing

[quasi torrent]

yes so u lost boss dam by going up

our boss dam parses

werent insane

for skipping upstairs

at all

[boreal quartz]

we tried to do no platf

miles off

[quasi torrent]

just try it with ur guild honestly

[boreal quartz]

like 20% off

next week or when ppl remember how the boss works

[quasi torrent]

thats the thing

udont have to play the boss

[boreal quartz]

collective dementia set in and we were debuff extend terrorists

[quasi torrent]

with staying down xdd

just hard spread

drop debuffs into the guys

[boreal quartz]

(im also under the impression 3 heal is bait)

[quasi torrent]

🤷‍♂️

just dont do 4 stackers when bolters are up on cleanses

i think 2 heal is better for that fight frankly

but then u cant HARD spread

[boreal quartz]

idk it just felt bad cuz a bunch of ppl straight up never did vault

pprolly better next time round

[quasi torrent]

i just checked who beat me on boss dam

walhe also did down strat

and just gapped me by 30k

alright bro

[boreal quartz]

get outcritted

[daring heron]

how long was the fight anda

[quasi torrent]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/46M9wV8GKgmxHPFJ#fight=14&type=damage-done&source=15

[daring heron]

sheesh 3:22

that's amazing

for pbox gaming

[opal folio]

My guild did 2-heal no platform yesterday and it lasted 3:40

[quasi torrent]

blast more dam

[quasi torrent]

i didnt have CS for 3min flat

so i didnt get ava pb cs tom overlap

in exe

[daring heron]

gg

[quasi torrent]

if boss had lasted another 10

i woulda blasted more dambur

[boreal quartz]

killtime cope begins anew

[quasi torrent]

i mean smolderon

is gonna be so dogshit

next time we are there xdd

<30% before 3rd inter

💀

[daring heron]

broodkeeper ring so insane dude

[boreal quartz]

ye

[boreal quartz]

surely 30% in 2nd

suuurely

[quasi torrent]

0%

unless u play like 3 udks

and lust first

xd

[quasi torrent]

yes

[boreal quartz]

ye its cope forsure

[quasi torrent]

i bought it over more long kill time trinkets

cause fuck signet/anvil

[opal folio]

Based

[quasi torrent]

korea man beat my smolderon gg

[boreal remnant]

Probably buying oce next because my healer and tank are playing it in m+

[quasi torrent]

had yellow head buff tho gg

[boreal quartz]

crimina

l

[quasi torrent]

wanna see smth criminal

🦉

[random stump]

why does ppl wear puzzle box and essence alot of ppl in logs is there something what we dont know or?

[quasi torrent]

wdym

its all pretty clear

those trinkets are good? xd

[halcyon breach]

They use them because they're good

It's not that deep

[random stump]

ye but if u sim its not even there

[quasi torrent]

what

[boreal quartz]

box fucks

[quasi torrent]

are u simming no buffs oce?

[halcyon breach]

Signet/Anvil would sim higher but that's only in longer fights

[boreal quartz]

especially on non 5 mins

[quasi torrent]

5min is ASS for puzzler

[random stump]

ye i know about that

even augury

[quasi torrent]

about the worst u can do for it

[halcyon breach]

Most fights right now are just really short

[random stump]

how do u sim essence if u dont have it?

sry for pepega questions

[halcyon breach]

Add it to top gear, at the top of the page

Droptimiser

[random stump]

i tried everything but somehow it says only 800 with all buffs

[halcyon breach]

Or Gear Compare

Are you simming at the max ilvl, or just at the same ilvl as what you have

[quasi torrent]

show the sim

so i can inspecteroni

[random stump]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1jbqaWdcCjc5CgZbvC1xTK

this is just gear

[boreal quartz]

why did you add 2

[random stump]

to see if on trinket 1 or trinket 2

on which one is better

[boreal quartz]

not quite it works for droptimizer

you need to make 2 diff "gearsets"

rather than both in one

[random stump]

hmmm

[astral yarrow]

Banger name though

Gl

[random stump]

is friends char xDD

[astral yarrow]

Suuuuure

[random stump]

i swear 😄

[somber lance]

Isnt voti the weakest tuned raid?

[astral yarrow]

Felt like Aberrus was

[somber lance]

i mean gonna be hard to tell now anyways since everyone so geared

[random stump]

now it says 800+ dps upgrade

and to swap augury

[somber lance]

Do signet stacks actually drop on rasz

when u go to platform

[boreal quartz]

no

ur in combat

[somber lance]

Oh good im dumb

[steep osprey]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iYLqi9D9TVm7FJPxghuBbM

what do

[quasi torrent]

do u have oce or icon allies in raid?

[boreal quartz]

fix ur ilvl situation lolmao 502 shoulders

id go cloak or oce

[steep osprey]

[quasi torrent]

defo aberrussy

[steep osprey]

I need to farm some crests and cata my hero shoulders

[steep osprey]

I don't think we have tanks with icon

it's oce probably since a lot of people want it

[quasi torrent]

talk to ur guild

if u guys can split it up accordingly

then id buy oce for sure.

[steep osprey]

Aight

bet

thanks

[quasi torrent]

???

who tf is this for

[somber lance]

I’ve got a question on OCE string actually. The sim doesn’t know which attunement we currently have right? It’s always going to recommend all the options?

[boreal quartz]

ye

[quasi torrent]

u could probably add a conditional

but theres literally no reason to 👍

[somber lance]

It’s just a bit odd

When you sim with gear compare does it take into account your attunement?

because then it’s like 4k dps diff

[grand idol]

at the bottom, in the buffs section, yo upick which one its simming.

[steep osprey]

Forgot to mention, Im pugging on my warrior lmao

So idk if OCE would be good

[bleak fog]

Damn, where to use the damn bullions.. Trinkets or go for Askhandur for some Furyplay every now and then..

[crisp needle]

hi guys, im learning arms currently and I was wondering if during execute phases you only go up to 2 execute stacks and then MS or do we also add 2 overpowered to that and then MS?

[frigid lava]

exe->exe->ms but that's not always the case. so usually there is op and cs in between

it's usually exe->exe->op->ms

[boreal quartz]

or another exe

if u have rage

[crisp needle]

It is exe exe op ms when ms is on cd foir like 1 to half a second?

[frigid lava]

using op in between is fine. it generates rage and buffs ms

[crisp needle]

gotcha 😄

and lets say in a m+ scenario where there is a group of adds and one of them is in execute range. Do we feed of from that mob with ex ex + cleave or do we stick to overpowered?

I think op right? Since execute is only on the target you hit

[polar salmon]

sorry if this was asked before but what's the opener now?

I think im doing fine with 400-520k ish overall but every other top warr I watch has a diff opener

I just try to stack as many buffs as I can and then go ooga booga right?

[steep osprey]

Should I get OCE if I only pug

[polar salmon]

set up puzzlebox > (cleave crit > thunderclap) interchangeable > avatar > roar > pots > WB > BS?

[buoyant cargo]

Was facing the same decision. Ashkandur was by far the bigger DPS upgrade for fury than a bullion trinket would have been for arms. Since i am borred to death hitting aspect crests cap every week i like to play fury every other key.

[bleak fog]

Think I will do the same even tho my trinket are crap 🙂

[gray herald]

yooo dva in a porsche that's badass

[mortal vigil]

its such a tough decision on what trinket to buy

[blazing flume]

Trinket question, i got oce(mythic), augury( awakened)and puzzle box(hero) , witch 2 i am using on m+?

[somber lance]

Lambo x WoW when

Lambo mount for 800 chicken tenders

[buoyant cargo]

For me (and i think in general) augury never simmed good for arms. Not knowing your charakter and the actual itemlevel/upgrade status of the mentioned trinkets i guess its oce and puzzle box. But in the end only sims will tell you.

[blazing flume]

I got deferred results for single , dungeon slice , 5 targets 40 secs

[real flint]

I only have a lfr oce and normal anvil maxed out, and simming bullion vendor with full upgrades, augury simmed roughly equal to anvil/brand for arms (to replace my oce).
Since i flex quite a bit through all specs i went for aug this week

[fathom void]

Guys can some1 help me with my stats? Dont know what do go for i guess i need more mastery? I play arms only - https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/de-de/character/eu/blackhand/salaszar

[boreal quartz]

just sim

[polar stream]

I had to show this sim

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iyMuG9jkEpfmkoaCcoFo5C

perfection!

i can optimise further, but this is pure Rizz

[boreal quartz]

[polar stream]

yes... better priority on upgrades and was hoping for a good vault...

[boreal quartz]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nQUx9ZjJqQfZTUd3sgNHam

bsl>sf

innit

[polar stream]

ty man!!

Issue with silken lining is that its uptime can be quite sketchy surely?

[hazy flower]

Yes

But iirc it outperforms sf at 25 sim uptime

And 25 is very low

[slow saddle]

Rly...

And versa bracers?

So ideally 2 x bsl

[fickle lotus]

Was there an other Execute Sound back in WoD ??? Im pretty sure it sounded completely different back then... ?!

[daring heron]

yeah the sound changed since then

[fickle lotus]

I knew it. It sounded way more massive.

I want it back.

Now.

[hazy flower]

Like 35-40 cant remember

[slow saddle]

Hmm like most encounter mby exept like smolderon

Hm rashon

[steep osprey]

lmao

41/41/41 when

[uneven yacht]

Did they increase drop chance for the lego in s4

Just came back to the game and wonder if I'll even get it before the xpac

[slow saddle]

No

U sir wont get it for free

[alpine burrow]

yo guys for the MOP remix, if I want the plate transmogs, do I need to run a plate class? or are the appearances redeemable by any class

[steep osprey]

guys

[old hare]

idk I still haven't gotten it I finally just rolled another class

[finite spire]

do we just ignore OP stacks in favour of MS now?

[exotic kestrel]

yes

u always do

MS on CD

[jade basalt]

[uneven yacht]

They need to just go back to the weekly raid currency legendary, rng drops suck

[exotic kestrel]

idk man, i didnt believe before, but im kinda convinced that getting a leggo is a curse not a boon

[uneven yacht]

Now it is

[exotic kestrel]

i kinda wanna play my dk alt, but i just have to accept that its gonna lose a bunch of dmg coz i cant be bothered going through that entire grind again

[uneven yacht]

I killed heroic sarkb every week and mythic us like 100-200, so not super early mythic kill or super late

And I never got evoker legendary

Killed mythic didn't get it again then quit the class

S4 is a meme season and you should be able to buy it with 2-4 bullions at worst

[gray herald]

yep it's pretty awful

[exotic kestrel]

4 bullions would prolly be fine tbh

[old hare]

Ive been sitting on 4 bullions just incase

feelsbad

[exotic kestrel]

Dont know why people care if others get it ez in S4

[uneven yacht]

Also if they make you natty loot it in s4, it should come at 435 already when to craft it

[gray herald]

neither

[exotic kestrel]

hunters can buy their bow which is almost a leggo

[gray herald]

they shoulda just made it 25/50/75/100 drop chance or something

in s4

it should still require bullions at least to upgrade it imo

[uneven yacht]

One or the other

[exotic kestrel]

Just make it account bound

[gray herald]

but yeah 4 bullions for awakened track version or just a much higher drop rate

[uneven yacht]

You either buy it with 4 bullions in s4, or if they make you loot it it should come upgraded

[gray herald]

that'd be nice too I'm gonna do ret in mop remix

and then it's gonna go to retail and be lego-less until it doesnt matter in tww

[misty bridge]

any class

[exotic kestrel]

ive got pally and dk at max lvl already

gonna play some frost in remix, and preparing all 3 plate's for TWW not sure which i wanna play yet

[gray herald]

yeah i have all classes at 60+ but havent levelled dk or ret yet

[exotic kestrel]

Idk, i always end up leveling all 3

[old hare]

I only play melee, I wanna try a ranged but not sure what to play

I guess ret is ranged lmao

[astral yarrow]

Spriest is pretty banger in general

Is this guy another ronin or what

[quaint otter]

Anyone has a tom tracking wa?

[astral yarrow]

Maybe not a ronin alt account. English is too good, but the takes though

Yeah guy caught a ban

[somber lance]

RoninY?

When is bomani free?

[astral yarrow]

Nah, that’s a name 402 took in memory of

[somber lance]

Haha i dont know the lore

[astral yarrow]

There’s a lot

[rancid willow]

Can someone please explain this “luck” thing for fy’rakk?

ELI5

[astral yarrow]

Kill him 15 weeks on hc and you are guaranteed the legendary

Mythic kills adds a bigger amount of bad luck protection and normal adds less

[rancid willow]

And I take it LFR is pointless?

[astral yarrow]

Yes and no. There’s much less blp in lfr than hc

But if that’s what you can do 🤷‍♀️

[sacred zodiac]

anything below hc is kinda irrelevant blp

[somber lance]

Lfr is a shot in the dark

Almost 0%

[steady plover]

heroic is the meta , if you finish heroic raid you finished the game

[astral yarrow]

Basically, especially this supposedly short season

[rancid willow]

Just got back to the game after leaving at the end of SL…so I’m very behind. Prob not doing heroic right away

[sacred zodiac]

preach raven! tell those mythic tryhards that they're wasting their time

[steady plover]

no need to play to be honest wait till new expansion

[rancid willow]

Though my guild does clear heroic

[rancid willow]

I’m really enjoying it

[astral yarrow]

Game is pretty good

[somber lance]

Don’t tell the man what to do

[rancid willow]

But I know the new expansion is coming soon

[astral yarrow]

Although I’m a raid log Andy until puppy allows me free time again

[steady plover]

not really most of them are europan single with no wifes or gfs so most of the time they reach home after work not going to the gym or upgrading their skills playing video games .

[somber lance]

The balance has to be decent at this point

Warrior in a good place

[rancid willow]

With boils on their ass

[steady plover]

what enjoy ? how you even have a guild after not playing for almost 2 years

[astral yarrow]

Now that is some ronin responses

[rancid willow]

Because the guild I was in is full of people that like me? I dunno

[somber lance]

Projecting this hard is crazy

[astral yarrow]

Imagine having friends

wtf

[rancid willow]

Because not everyone playing this game gatekeeps

[halcyon breach]

Aagaard go back to Sabotage so we can make fun of you

[somber lance]

Raven just fishing hard

[steady plover]

you want to make a picture that you have a respectful guild , but you are no name guy who joined this ninja invites '' social guild club '' give me a break and go find some hoppy

[rancid willow]

lol

This guy

[astral yarrow]

You want a bench spot that fast

[halcyon breach]

Yeah I'll warm one up for you don't worry

[astral yarrow]

You guys are like 26 or 27 people rn

[rancid willow]

That’s all Raven can do. Imagine it.

https://tenor.com/view/rainbow-spongebob-imagination-gif-11877335675029242228

[steady plover]

not projection ya robin , the thing is europen doesn't have such stress in their life because they get carried . check america now they have to work their ass off just to get rent i am talking about the majority .

[rancid willow]

Emphasis on Rainbows 🌈

[hazy flower]

yap

[sacred zodiac]

preach raven

[halcyon breach]

Yeah and you'll be the 28th on the bench

But it's okay

I'll let you come in for the first 3

I can sit for those

[astral yarrow]

I’m ok in CT for now

[rancid willow]

You forgot the $800/mo payment for a Hyundai

[steady plover]

ya benzai what is up these days you are changing your display picture every hour ???

[astral yarrow]

GB paying for everything is banger

[halcyon breach]

Raven this has been my way of life for a long long time

[steady plover]

you from california ?

[rancid willow]

Funny that you think that’s a Cali thing

Floridians invented that

Along with voter fraud

And vaginoplasty

[halcyon breach]

what the frick

[rancid willow]

Look it up

It was invented in Florida

By a German plastic surgeon

[steady plover]

holy thats alot 800$/mo thats everything i mean calculating the oil , tax , Maintenance ,everything , cost of bank loan to buy

what hyundai you got , elantra , sonata or santafai

[rancid willow]

Who said I got a Hyundai bitch

That’s what a lot of Americans are doing

Getting kias and Hyundais on 8yr loans at high interest

For 700-800/mo

Toss in Nissan altimas

[steady plover]

that is lie , 8yr loan doesn't exist

most is 5yr

[rancid willow]

ROFL they absolutely do exist

Credit unions give 8 yr loans

Some even 10 yr loans

😂

[steady plover]

thefuck for a car 10 yr

[rancid willow]

Yep

The American dream man

[steady plover]

United state of debit

[rancid willow]

Accurate

New iPhones every year

New cars every three

[steady plover]

damn , time to go mexico . i have heard many first blood canadians are running to south america

[sacred zodiac]

mexico will increase your ping to the servers

[rancid willow]

And both his chance of death and daily bowel movements

If the cartels don’t get you….

[boreal quartz]

love shitting

[rancid willow]

Peeing out of your ass will

[boreal quartz]

spraypaint the toilet

[steady plover]

btw joe i heard these rumors of cartels are overrated , i know many europens , canadians who immigrated to mexico and they live normally

[rancid willow]

They stay in the little tourist area

I went to Mexico…it all looked like eastbound and down season 2

[steady plover]

i don't know but from the map mexico looks big land

[rancid willow]

And a little nacho libre

[steady plover]

[boreal quartz]

I work with a lot of mexicans and they never mention it

[rancid willow]

I work with a lot of Canadians and they’ve never ever mentioned how fucking cold it is up there

[steady plover]

i haven't lived in a cold place , is it true that extreme cold weather promote depression and suicidial rate ?

[left talon]

nope thats taxes

[boreal quartz]

It doesnt help

Go to work it's dark

Leave work

It's dark again

[real flint]

Me about half the year. Working in a big building that feels like a bunker sometimes. Lack of windows and sun litterally going down before we leave work at 4 in the winter (norway)

[exotic horizon]

Guys if you play With pugs mythic plus you use Icon or OCE ?

[somber lance]

Greenland has one of the highest suicide rates because of this reason

Very little sunlight

[merry cape]

So the grass isn't greener is what you're saying

[boreal quartz]

is bearicid a diff statistic?

[clever crag]

I like dark

Best time to game

[soft fox]

Based

[flat vine]

Pips prob if it's all pugs

[flat vine]

Stay away from places like Mexico City. No different than avoiding the bulk of Chicago here. Cartels have no interest in you unless you give them a reason to be interested

[nimble basin]

key invites this week are rough wtf

[quasi torrent]

why rood

[daring heron]

wtf is this @halcyon breach pfp

[sacred zodiac]

it was thievery

[olive nest]

Arms Owns

[astral yarrow]

Hate banzai

Revoke yellow

[olive nest]

How much gold did yellow cost?

[teal fossil]

thats not true

[gray herald]

hilarious

[frosty remnant]

If I want go collect cosmetics for my war I don’t need to roll a dk or ret for mop remix right? From what I understand everything is cosmetic and plate doesn’t matter.

[gray herald]

all cosmetics can be learned by all classes

at least that's what blizzard said

[frosty remnant]

Nice. I’d rather not play another legendary class lol thanks

[woven wasp]

wuh

what does that have anything to do with timerunning

[gray herald]

well it goes to retail at the end of the event

[woven wasp]

yeah but itll be tww at that point

[gray herald]

prepatch

[woven wasp]

unless you really care about those 2 or 3 weeks

[gray herald]

i guess lego is still relevant for a bit

im playing ret in mop tho

i think

[frosty remnant]

Oh I misunderstood. I thought you can go to retail once you hit 70. So it just transfers over when the event ends? Good to know.

[slow saddle]

Yeye

Ofc balance is utter shit

And u csnt care bout that

Obviously any leggo char. Will be weak

So id choose a non leggo class if u want power

[frosty remnant]

Was gonna do a 2nd Monk but now with that info maybe I’ll try dk since it’s the only melee I’ve never played and it looks cool in TWW. No interest in playing it in dragonflight lol

I don’t really care for power it’s more for having fun and the experience, and having something worth playing in TWW and not wasting it

[somber lance]

I don’t think anyone knows what the meta will be in panda

But who cares

[frosty remnant]

I definitely don’t lol

[gray herald]

isnt all content a complete joke and every spec can do infinite damage and healing?

im not sure a 'meta' will even form

[teal fossil]

there will always be a meta

if every spec does infinite damage and infinite healing, you play dh because you get to point A and point B the fastest

:DDD

[frigid lava]

I dunno... I think I had fun in pandaria

I think I had fun in every expansions except the 2 I didn't play.

[somber lance]

I need 99 panda logs

[gray herald]

yeah true but i wouldnt be so sure a meta will even be noticeable, i think it'll just be the most popular specs being the most popular

[gray herald]

talking about this timerunning event not the actual expansion

the expansion was good, i enjoyed it a lot

but this event is very very different to mop

[teal fossil]

im playing dh for sure

to play the least mechanic possible

[frigid lava]

oh

[gray herald]

[teal fossil]

and yeah this is not real mop

[frigid lava]

ah.. i haven't done timerunning this week yet

[gray herald]

it's classes in their dragonflight state, with busted ass stats and abilities crammed in everywhere

not timewalking. it's a new gamemode

releasing today

[frigid lava]

oh

interesting

[somber lance]

I dont have a rogue so mb im doing that

But not sure how fun it is in df

[gray herald]

you create a character, play through mop content with a much different gearing/levelling system

[frigid lava]

It's very hard to replicate old feeling.... because we were naive(er) but not anymore.

[gray herald]

it's not supposed to feel like mop

[teal fossil]

who has the worst tier set

outside of fury

[gray herald]

it's just a 4fun crazy event

[teal fossil]

you play the spec with the worst tier set

[gray herald]

survival

[teal fossil]

ok thats my main

[gray herald]

at full 428 maxed out mythic tier

they still play old tier in keys

[somber lance]

Good balance

[teal fossil]

wait

i need to check who has the strongest aura buffs

thats what matters

[somber lance]

Hasnt survival and frost dk been dumpster tier whole expansion

[gray herald]

frost dk is weird

cos it kinda does good damage but 1) super unpopular and 2) overshadowed by unholy

it's always in the "meh" tier with one or two good fights

[somber lance]

Ive seen them pump but its extremely unpopular

[gray herald]

yep

[somber lance]

Unholy also unpopular but always tops keys in my experience

[gray herald]

survival on the other hand is basically blizzards forgotten spec

[somber lance]

The burst is gag

On UH

[tiny dock]

does this look okay for m+? was a w key azure vault 5

[gray herald]

they made it melee and left it to rot apart from accidentally making it op

once or twice

[inner wasp]

:( help

i actually really like arms

big arms player (unironic?)

[toxic canyon]

any1 else lost 19k dps on sims overnight

[inner wasp]

last time i played arms was skullsplitter build and that felt like cheeks

[slow saddle]

Ehm uh udk deffo isnt insane in keys in gen

[quasi torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/SIe1IA3.png if ur roar is smaller than this

L

[tiny dock]

yeah my roar is never that big

shoud I be holding it for the bigger packs?

[quasi torrent]

this is a joke

[tiny dock]

oh

[quasi torrent]

this was one roar

[languid yoke]

on aoe i use cleave or mortal strike?

bc i see them have same buff

[frigid lava]

MS does about x3 dmg in ST... so if u can hit 4+ targets... then cleave

[languid yoke]

thanks you

[tepid citrus]

Always mortal strike. Dont fall into the trap. bit stonks and bonks are all that matter

You hit one target hard enough. the rest will die

[languid yoke]

you have sweeping blades, than is spread if i think correctly

thats why i ask

[tepid citrus]

im joking. what dysfunc said sounds about right. I normally just base it off whats in my group.

[deft osprey]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pWeDZXm5eLcfbM2uz5AP4S

Any insight on better stat weights / gear? I took oce to help the raid. Pretty consistent purple/orange parser but always trying to improve

[fossil thistle]

Beating 522 signet brand

if only i got a hero one 😦

[deft osprey]

Tf do you mean stat weights don’t matter

[boreal quartz]

you just sim

and never look at any stat %

[hazy flower]

@daring heron or someone who knows

if u bladestorm in av during the aoe

u dont get damage do u

I keep going out of the fucking circle and losing uptime

[fringe moon]

Where from?

What class are you guys considering making for mop remix?

[daring heron]

yeah the big aoe from the big crystal dudes? any immunity to root will immune that

so bladestorm and freedom from paladins work

[hazy flower]

good

man its so ass I forgot about it