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if you think playing with a bunch of your homies twice a week for a couple hours is like being a slave
i think youve lost it
depends on the experience felt during those hours
homies or not
but that's debatable
One minor complaint so far is it has to much of the build up and not enough of the yellin
I mean like find a group you like playing with
Idk man, doing mythic one night a week for 4 hours isn’t bad at all
damn Risby you managed to type like 10 messages in a row and all of them are cringe af
congrats
Are the havoc demon hunters rerolling arms?
yeah literally all of them
egirlchoco is stuck in s3 yeah
Haha yeah I can futz with the editing later
just a minor complaint but if you update it at all hmu no worries
Not the same. I saw many Fury doing MORE rampages than Bloodbaths and with macroing in BB/Rampage you could never make this mistake (and I actually had separate keybind for bloodthirst).
I actually liked S3 Fury the most.
Thats correct.
i never really messed it up persoanlly but ig its possible
You cant 2x a bb when you get one proc from a rampage
that's not always a mistake tho, if you weren't enraged you prio rampage over bloodbath
Avg hit of BB was like 200k+ and Rampage was 20k
So an un-enraged BB would be 100k and still better than a Rampage?
you do know the rampage enrages you right?
then you can do a bb that is affected by enrage
Big dam
Yes but if enrage falls off and you still have a procced bloodbath it would be better to use it without enrage then to use rampage again. As this bloodbath without enrage would still is higher dmg than the rampage; and it’s followed up by a rampage that then enrages you.
/popcorn
rampage hits 4 times, each 20k. if bb hits 100k, i promise you it's worth more than 20k damage to get enraged again
and that's without accounting for the chance of Unbridled ferocity
It’s almost like we cared more about BB than anything else
Also keep in mind, you’re always going to have more ramp casts than BB because each hit of ramp is a “cast” for some reason in logs
that depends on where you look for casts. for timelines and cpm yes, for tables and clicking on abilities you see the casts
like this
More chat about fury than the fury chat lol
whats the current m+ talent build like? i feel like i read somwhere that you dont take bladestorm and sudden death? is that right or just a meme
Don’t think you ever skip sudden death
You can play the juggernaut build which drops bladestorm
Bladestorm build is better overall though
Jugg is when you want to smash bosses and let other classes handle trash
jugg still has some pretty good aoe
critcake is insane
bleeds and DN owns
The only build that'd get rid of Sudden Death, is Deswind's FoB cook
Is that a legit build this season or was he just experimenting?
so distant tho
It was a small gain in AoE for less Prio/ST
It'd just mean you'd have WW as your filler if no OP in AoE
Nice, I’ll give it a go next reset
I tried it but was not a fan
Ngl, doesn’t seem promising in my head
you cursed the key by posting this
But variety is good

do you have a link to it?
Iirc he ran the standard Bladestorm Hybrid, removed Sudden Death, changed Strength of Arms to Improved Sweeping, Storm of Swords into Collateral Damage
interesting....
maybe he has updated it since, but that was the last fob build he posted
said he took 2x critical just as filler talents
if your looking for standard M+ build just go single BS
since he doesn't like bladestorm
I still can't used not getting 2 points of Overwhelming Rage
rage is cosmetic so not like u need it
what happened
i was too busy flaming my party members
totem?
ye, 1 failed totem then it spiraled out of control
happensge
if I don't the leggo, what should I grab with bullion if im mainly doing m+? eranog ring kinda seems like it needs the axe.
if you're far away from getting the leggo or not trying to get it then ashkandur
Im def hella far away. that makes sense then.
eranog ring still good without the leggo, head enchant procs it. ofc it's worse than with leggo
only loser rerollers don't have lego
trinkets proc it, ashkandur procs it
my warrior so neglected I still gotta get the head enchant too. rofl
Need to compare it to the technical bis setup, but Head + Shadowflame + Ashkandur gives a good uptime of the ring
Frankly though, it doesn't matter all too much what you buy, and in which order
@halcyon breach
Ashkandur > rings > trinkets
If you have garbage trinkets but good rings, OCE/Icon also good options before rings, all of which you can just sim to see the biggest gain whenever you make your purchase
Rate my pull
One overpower line will do approximately 54 damage per mob, very powerful I think
Is it worth it to play arms if I’m not going to get the fyrakk weapon?
Yes
You'll still do more damage as Arms without lego, than Fury without lego (depending on context)
arms pumps
Thanks! I have been really wanting to play one but I was worried because I know I won’t get the Lego
The lego is not mandatory no, it just gives a lot of damage
Sweet. Thank you!!
dk had 11 ilvls on me
Oh damn. This definitely makes me excited.
not to mention you run that wack build without SoS
nah im playing sos - no cleave tho
no cleave? no 4p?
yes 4p
that is wack
I would never run 2x BB over Cleave with 4p
you're a try hard
i tried this in a key
elitist of talents
it wasn't very good
Nina has an identity crisis on cooldown
Doesn't want to min/max but does not want to be out min/max'd by me
you out minmax me every minute of the day
I donut care
im also running frag > pb 🙂
poison bomb
didn't know this was town of Salem
gonna assume you already know, but incase you don't. iredeus fragment and puzzle box
name 1 int that uses puzzle box
Me
Curious, it's a puzzle to open the box, yet it's only strength and agi users that are able to use it properly
Guess int users really are not that intelligent?
break the box open
maybe they are so intelligent that opening a puzzle box is beneath them
this is the reason why
Hunter idiots not even knowing lol!
puzzle box is basically a fidget toy for hunters
Look outside your door
cuz they b
i will destroy you
are u there
yes pealse daddy
Open and find out
typo
there is nothing
if you look up you will discover us
wtf
hello!
I don't have my glasses sec
oh ok
ok ready now
There's a very tiny cup of tea
yippie !!!!
@halcyon breach continue narrating?
Do I really not rend? Like just single target thunder clap?
TC replaces Rend outright, due to spending rage more efficiently
Guys, i've already the 2 fire ring + leg, assuming i'm only playing MM+ , which item i should buy next week ?
it's m+ not mm+ mr French 
anyway look pins there's m+ details on the topic
Baguette ? :x
mode mythique
What trinkets you got
looks like ur buying a trinket with ur next bullion
The things is nobody playing icon/ OCE , and Neltharion's one make us less tanky
So it's Still Ok to take one of this three ?
Pips is a pretty good choice aswell
any passive stat stick will do well just your choice on which one u want
Augury can be a choice too?
Ok good to know thanks
lemee get that puzzlebox
I definitely wouldn't take Nelths if you're pushing high keys. 5% can be the difference in living and dieing.
Imagine i'm lock with crest and cant upgrade it
Right, seems i Will go Icon / OCE
Icon Will be a better choice assuming any other mate Will play oce
if your tank and or healer is gonna wear Icon I would go Icon but if they arent I lean more towards OCE especially if other dps are wearing it
Yeah but mate play SP / Ret and they wont stack OCE too xD
you can sim the comparison of no oce upgs vs no Icon upgs
If you want an option that always work regardless of your setup, Pips would arguably be your best bet
and that Pips is always there too
was busy sorry
enjoy the tea
narrator hello
hello narrator
Pips enjoyer checking in.
Always have my friends with me even when alone. 
Dslice is viable for simc ? ^^
Yes
It works yes, but I would not use it to determine what trinkets to use, if that's what you're gonna do
So, ST Spec, and Patchwerk ?
Whatever talent setup you want, but Patchwerk 5 min 1 target for gearing purposes is what I'd recommend
Trinkets however is something you gotta apply some thinking for yourself
But for ease, Puzzle Box + Icon/OCE or Pips will be the general best setup
You can use Call to Chaos instead as your passive option, but the increased damage taken part makes it not worth picking in any serious content really
Idk if I'd frame it as "serious" content, so much as probably not for push content, but otherwise yeah
Depends on what one would see as serious content, but yeah
I hear healers like to heal. Their problem.
mostly a problem when you get into one-shot territory, but anything south of that is generally fine
pip will be a way better i guess
Pips is weaker than OCE/Icon with buffs, but it's always consistent and not much worse to the point of it being detrimental
Yeah. I’m curious if it’ll still be a problem with one shot issue when running ring
you will always run into a 1 shot issue in keys thats how keys work
so in aoe
if im trying to only use cleave at 2 stacks
clap takes prio over cleave?
if not at 2 stacks
Clap and WW resets OP
im aware
So if you have no OP charges, 1 stack of MP, you can Clap -> OP -> 2xMP Cleave
So then yes, it would technically take prio over cleave in that situation
fixed, just need to download the new mp3 file
better way to start war arms? about the
no have tier set, no have legendary
is fresh character
ashkandur
Bleeds go brrr
Soooo leggo seems crazy, is normal leggo better than mythic track ash
Slash should I actually be farming each week
Its pretty big
i’m new kinda dumb question how much would it cost to get good arms enchants?
Honestly I havent payed attention in a long time, my guess to full enchant gear is like 30k maybe if you dont count belt?
Id mostly just worry about Chest, Legs, Weap and Rings for now
dont worry about cloak, wrist or belt
Brackenhide with Spiteful is so damn obnoxious. goddamn.
90% cost is in wep enchant, like 6k for wafting. Rest may only cost 1.5k total, not counting gems or the belt clasp.
Yeah Im out of touch cause my guild funds all gems and enchants
leg enchant is expensive for the 'good' one
but you can get fierce for very cheap and very minor loss
no, unupgraded legendary is not better than M Ashkandur, but upgraded legendary is much better
Fierce leg enchant is the good one, like 500g.
le sigh
Waited for this priest to do RLP 10 only said "hold on" after 20mins he says "Sry too many messages" and just drops group
I think thats what imma do now
Only waited cause he queued with DH + nobody cared to wait
you want frosted on warr
armor = strength
its a very small optimization though
I suppose that's fair. I'd rather take the 1310hp though than 14 strength.
@dire hinge ty for reviving super saiyan weakaura btw
forgot to mention that earlier
Hhaha no worries, i like making silly things
why would you ever run these talents lol
Do we cast bladestorm in ST M+ build?
yes
well, prio damage funnel, plenty of burst cleave with roar, ss+op/dn and rend ticks - all the op buffs goto ms every time, dw on everything comes from wb where it matters and for bosses jugg stacks up and chunks
i basically dont have to worry about the rules of when to cast cleave - it all goes on ms fro prio damage
missing out on the juicy 4p uptime
even if you mess up the rules of MS or Cleave when
its not that important
ms procs it lol
who the fuck he has so little while playing cleave
the top arms warrior for rlp at same key level
thats more how it should look like
i took Critcake one
i dont log my keys but it was in those number or even higher
should i use gnarlroots or key-line tracer?
yall why is it that when i see you guys do bladestorm, it hits like bricks, but when i use bladestorm they hit like i am hitting them with wet noodles?
Do you use cleave before for buff
i gotta cleave before bladestorm?
tier set buff
still got your dots and everything running before
i see. i just checked wowhead, i realized i need to press like 15 different buttons before bladestorming
anyone use a weakaura to keep track of buffs and dots?
you can get one but your dots are basically permanent bc you keep reapplying them
basically just use thunderclap cleave roar avatar warbreaker bladestorm
immediately whirlwind and then ss and follow the priority
ok got it thank you
how do maximise the on use effect of the legendary? sometimes it hists 200k and sometimes 800k
It splits damage that is why you see a huge variance
this next week is really ass
uldaman lizards will one shot tanks next week 
but at least you can stun them to make them lose stacks
the basilisks in first area are the danger part
belf racial 
Having an incorporeal go off is one of the worst feelings in wow
Didn’t you say we should have close to 100% playing optimally?
I for one couldn’t get past 70% and am wondering why
Maybe when tank is gathering pulls for example i lose uptime since it’s technically combat
feelin cute might buy CSB
So we only cleave with 2xOP?
Seen some Critcake video and he was doing OP cleave OP cleave
cleaving with 2x MP is more prio
and slightly more aoe
but its not a big deal at all
just press buttons
when hitting a pack you will have that 100% kinda
but yeah you always wait for tank to pack stuff anyway
That’s the truth
sure but your sims account for that already
just thinking about it devaluing running 2x bsl for example
due to both being rating increases and not direct %
possibly why frag trinket sims better for me in dslice over pb
28% base mastery
yet pb was over frag when at 20% mastery
I just run fragment because imagine channeling a trinket
Imagine doing more damage
Impossible for melee brain to stand still for 2 seconds.
damage is irrelevant until like +20 keys
or whatever
Why are you trolling with irideus then
Bring rageheart and cheat death from dawn
I resorted to that with great success
I love how arms cds are even lower than fury now somehow lol
Or atleast it feels like it
puzzlebox user moment
?
Feels like I can use em multiple times per pack sometimes lol
anybody some spare haste for me?
But fury hits like shit on ST compared to the beauty of this arms build
Its not that it’s completely irrelevant, its that you dont need to play perfectly just play good and dont die
And picking good trinkets
Is part of playing good
x)
Take 2 passive trinkets and ggs
What
Furys ST in keys is actually good
Compared to what you see in raid
Yeah well shorter fights and all
No just fury loses jack shit going m+
fight duration has nothing to do with that
Where some classes lose so much
Like ret
Ret only had decent st last season because it was overtuned as fuck in raid
Or it had food if it went diff build instead of your general m+ final reckoning build
Tier was a bit worse + you play different talents
Yeah fucking bonegrinder
- you cant compare it just like that
Yeah and we're not in s1 anymore, and both specs do good ST in keys now
Does anyone have a weakaura showing if our 4p BUFF is up?
ret is still one of the best specs in raid no?
Yes but its not simming higher than anything else by a landslide
Idk if like one of the best but its definitely very strong at least
last time i checked sim craft it was like top5
U mean sim? Yes its 3rd highest spec after deva and arms last I checked
ye
Fury 6th now.
mastery or haste oathstone?
Guys what is the best item to get after the Upgrade for fyralath for the bronz thingis ?
Use droptimizer or check #updates-midnight
Solo icon sims higher than pips for me, is this an indication of not enough crit? 🤔
its an indication of buy icon
Icon love
So I was looking to possibly reroll to warrior haven’t played outside of levelling this expansion and it’s a potential for new expansion- my question is how essential is the Lego weapon for me to do competitive dps?
It's definitely good but there's a second place that everyone is getting that seems fine I forget the name starts with an A
U could use till u get leggo
Ashkandy
Yes
Thanks
🙏 zug on my friend
Ashkandur
hey i was wondering why are arms taking the eranog ring ? i mean it says fire dmg how are we gonna do fire dmg?
or is the shadowflame normal fire dmg to?
Head enchant and leggo
Shadowflame armor patch works too
Shadowflame is both shadow and fire damage
It simmed only 1% upgrade for me but I simmed it at low ilvl
Hello guys, i'm not sure about my sim and about the puzzle box :
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ezmCw1543eN3F8TTxqaPjJ
Is better to play with irideus so
hi guys, is it normal that Might of the Ocean trinket (483ilvl) simmed better than most trinket including the Hoof (ilvl 509)?
1% is a lot for a ring
especially at low ilvl
Just stick to pbox dslice sims are questionable for trinkets
Yeah Ill cop it next week
@sacred zodiac for me ?
It was like +7k over a socketed ring for me that ring is stupid
Got icon first
Ye
it's goodge
@sacred zodiac i don't understand ^^ Sims in dslice with trinket is not good ?
Just loot it bro
Dslice Trinket sim results tend not to line up with what ends up actually being played in optimal m+ keys
Ive seen like 10 oces drop and never got shit EVERYBODY wants it lol
@sacred zodiac oh okay thank you
I miss personal loot tbh
Come pvp it's all vendors babyy
Seeing all the golden 100 rolls fuck that
Pvp got it right
What happened to valor
Anyone know if Chromatic essence is a bis trinket for us ? ( Haste or crit )
I sim it but i lost 3.6% dps
Trust in the sims my child
And i don't have a lot of haste ( 34% - 5461 )
Doesn’t it depend on your party?
Do you have full Party buffs enabled in the sim Settings at the bottom
All war i see play with 40-43 hast %
@sacred zodiac no
Cuz i'm not playing with chromatic mate
Its bis if you're in a raid that is setting that up properl
If you look at the wowhead gear page sims, it’s only on top of your party uses it too
Look at the ones without +all it’s lower
Yes but 0 tank want to playu with icon
Just manipulate them kek
Also Im expecting oce to drop from raid, never seen an icon drop lul
does anyone know the exact Blademaster Torrent and Merciless Bonegrinder build? Couldnt find a video from Biz about it but was told to look at him?
BT too much of a ST loss imo. You can def move some talents around for MBG though.
whats the goto spec then for this week?
so close to 600k 
any1 remembers how much does it cost to upgrade from 522 to 535
for ring next week
i got 30 aspect crests idk if i should save em or just send em
60 aspects
yes so it just increases the cap
so you'll be able to get another 120 aspects next week
are you gonna keep that ring? what embellishments are you running?
BSL+wrist
not double bsl? weak
double BSL gaming 
your gear is a shitshow
my gear is awesome
why is that neck 515
cause Im speanding my aspects this week on cloak
hc
isnt pbox better than it
get back in the mines then or?
no ur not
ok i will defeat you
Bro add me to battle net friends I’m sending you 600 gold for a decent transmog
good stats?
screw you
tusks supremacy
Im having some trouble figuring out when i should use bladestorm. Should i use BS first and then all my other cds cause of the str proc or the other way around?
I will bs you 
if thats st then its not terrible
roar before it all ideally
Dont roar get extra dmg if its applied during warbreaker? Or does it not work like that?
Thats been my aoe rotation, im guessing that is horribly wrong 😭😭
no snapshotting
Guess ill see my dmg go way up now then😂😂
Cause im 520 and i sometimes feel like im just not doing what im supposed to do😅 but thank u very much!!
What dungeon? @novel hollow
also algethar 7 (dps players suck)
Surprised that lock is that low😂
489 might + 489 ember
from s3'
i need pbox and dps will skyrocket
I hate using it, i never understand when to use it😂😂 i have it but i dont feel all that more powerful
Im prolly just trash but hey
lock had monitor turned off or
prolly
whats the best trinket with billions playing not with mates all pug 😦
Neltharion is a good choice
Pip is good too
or is oce/icon better when play solo it?
His dps is low, indeed. But he is also playing destro on a 7 key where the top dps is doing 500k+ dps.
they can still be good
also might get random people using them
specially icon since you don't need people to not be your same selection
so better icon than neltharion?
it's not so black and white
I also don't know if you're asking for raid or for m+
only m+
I think Icon is a safer bet
but not sure
cause nelth's is mostly good in aoe, and icon is so much better than nelth's in st
but icon is also good in aoe so
idk
If I intend on switching from Arms to Fury based on the situation(primarily raiding), would it be worth using my Bullion next week on Signet Brand? Since it's pretty good for both?
Isnt icon+oce bis
not anymore
Why does the 1's look so fucked up
timmas big fan
hi tmy can u make fury good
Guys iam overwhelmed with amount of buttons i need to press in m+. Any tips to reduce amount or make some macroes?
take slam off
take rend off
u dont really use them in m+
cant take anything else off
arms is bloated in aoe
Rend already off panel, but slam used in ST scenario(bosses) so cant take it off.
is there a string to sim all oce buffs with consumables? i had one previously but cant find it now
Anyway everything + legendary takes all the comfortable buttons... never expireneced this before..
u dont press slam on st outside of very rare cases where u dont have anything to press
in order to make it worth pressing u need 2 points in crushing force
which is evil
cause u need those 2 points for storm bolt etc
I just press it when I have absolutely nothing left lol
Which is very rare
Especially in AoE
Buff slam
Ban this guy
This

Im guessing enha shammy + aug + monk tank + priest heal is bis for AA
Pumptastic 1st pull
does a sweeping strikes affected overpower proc a 2nd dreadnaught?
I peaked 3mil dps no aug on AA +7 , pretty good
Was still ramping up but trash died too fast
Once ill get my pbox and replace my shitty ass 489 trinks itll be a gamechanger
The more i use PBox the more i hate it
its so much downtime that i dont play with it in m+ even if sim says to
I have yet to feel annoyed with Puzzie box
But I suppose I get why people don't like channels
Yea what downtime
I mean i dont have it but im guessing you should be pressing it while tank is gathering the pack
This let tank gather then u send anyways
I enjoyed it in s1
what do you think of something like this? Get rid of crushing force and frothing for second wind for higher bsl uptime
that’s not going to give you higher bsl uptime
Ignore pain all you need
the shitty feeling of getting to the biggest pack of the dungeon and it's up
Neltharions call better
Better than what?
Puzzy b
need a new trinket badly
and i might start playing fury besides arms
is icon the best trinket
Hey all quick question I still got tier from s3. is it worth replacing with higher ilvl non tier
meanwhile, monks
It's not but at least You don't need to farm it
coming back after a long hiatus, looks like arms > fury these days? is this reality or a simulation?
It all depends of Your skill and type of content You are doing
On +10s it doesn't matter which You Play, they are both good
primarily m+ here
are you saying arms is less mongo than fury? fury seems pretty buttonsmash right now
fury was always buttonmash
Fury is buttonsmash, arms need a little more thinking but it's easy aswell
Brackenhide is such a padding experience hah! My first 400k overall 🥹
is that a borat reference?
hehe sure is
based
Arms is pretty mongo this season on aoe but thats good, fury super mongo
just got double insta gibbed in ulda 8
chain lightning beween 2 totem lightning pulses
brez into frame 1 chain lightning
Never
no
Always the dead weight or the “utility” guy
I don't play with meta players
That guy who presses TW and deals with affix
I took DK, Enh, Dev evoker and was fine 
pick the player not the class etc etc
Exactly
couple times yeah
its pretty rare though
recently ive come across more decent mages and less outright terrible ones
which is nice
dont know shit about the spec or how to tell if theyre good
i just assume they all suck
I can tell if they are good when i was tanking and did big dmg while they CC'd interrupted and stuff
But yes ppaww is correct
No. They all think they’re better than they are. Had a 3100 io one in an AA. “Don’t expect me to fear if I’m combusting”. DPS was barely 315k while Ret & I are at 465k.
What happend to cleave training dummies in valdrak? Was there a blue Post?
theyre bugged
Guys don't known how to sim this or even if I can but using potion on pull or during execute phase? What is the best time to pop it?
usually after avatar/cs according to the sim sequence (if i remmeber right)
sim shows you what order it does things
Kumbusting
Like a wise person on youtube comments once said - "Fuck Mages and avoid at all costs, theyre all rats".
mashallah brother destroy the pink
guys what trinkets should i aim to go for in keys? im currently running puzzle box and Mirror but sims and bloodmallet says OCE or WII is giga but the issue is the premade im running with has 0 people thats gonna be using those trinkets. should i still aim to get them or is there better choices for my scenario?
I just opened discord and read “brother destroy the pink” and I wasn’t sure what channel I was in
alright thanks! was thinking of just going for it or just buy the class trinket but not sure
do I just give up on trying to sweep CS in council now? It's horribly desynced, CS comes back way too fast
might just say fuck it and buy OCE
Hey - i read the wowhead guide but im abit confused should we cast roar then avatar? Is there a reason why we dont avatar first then use roar? (talking outside of execute phase) 🙂 cause i dont understand why we woudnt want the dmg increase from avatar applied to our roar?
Did the crit bugfixes also make augury stronger for us? it moved up alot on bloodmallet
Icon aswell then ?
Just a stat stick with str
in single target we have more valuable GCD's that we want to put into avatar. I.E. 1 MS is better than 1 TR tick
ah ok what about aoe?
not sure, but I think it's ava->WB->Roar
hmm do people sim for M+ dungeon slice or 1min 5 targets ?
Ok ty maybe someone else can confirm the aoe part
In aoe it's more like... trinket/pot, charge, clap, cleave, roar, ava/wb, bs, cleave, ww, ss, op op etc
So even in aoe we still roar before avatar?
Yeah because the duration of roar will last through hurricane and whatnot
the initial hit of roar is very little compared to the dot
I get that but why not get the roar buffed with the dmg amp from avatar
thats the thing i dont really understand
Because the other buttons you press will do more
Ok fair 🙂 ty
@astral yarrow @steep osprey ya box and Aagaard i have been wondering do you have decent friends like critcake i mean he always been playing with that ret paladin Qarva and the resto shaman laren for years , do you guys have m+ buddies that you enjoy playing with for 3-5 hours ?
sry for the confusion ❤️
initial hit is pretty small and is reduced by armor
sorry as well, i might have been doing it wrong

Anyone know if remix will have bgs
not stupid enough yet to be good
trying to kill my braincell with alcohol and stuff
they are resilient
you keep asking like sissy , do you promote sissiness ?
I wish you’d be my little sissy

Just looted 509 puzzle box... hmm
am i the only guy that doesn't like aug for high keys?

How ominous trinket and icon work in live? I assume we wont meet top dps scenario(bloodmallet sims) in 95% cases, iam right? Specially in m+ pugs and raids
You might see the situation in raids, but it's ultra hard in M+
For M+ i'm using algethar and call to chaos
Call to Chaos procs so much it's insane
Opinion of the emerald dream raid?
wdym
that cannot be a high key my brother
Debating on if I want to run it this week. Haven’t done it yet but from what I’m watching from guides kinda seems the more, idk more complicated?
...it's a +12
My realgameplay scenario would be hc raids mb occasionally myth for 1-3 booses and pug m+, which trinket will net me top deeps?

+12 Azure Vault
Tank didn't knew how to do skips
Boomkin kept dying all the time
And we still did it in time
It was a damn miracle
12 isn’t a particularly high key
If you think you need skips to time a 12 AV…
It’s the freest dungeon of the season
By far
We don't need skips to time a AV, but it can be done faster
I 2 chested a 13 AV without any skips
When you're pugging, anything over a +10 can be considered high tbh
Not really
Isn’t 10 the max right now?
Are Sims for nelth correct? Cause it Sims kinda low
For vault rewards yes
For vault
+10 pug is high
Oh

There’s no point in going higher except for fun and/or title
yea when you clear all +10s... then u get tempted to try +11 and so on.
Best way to handle that. Happy they are doing those higher tiers like that
Augury feels like underrated trinket, low in sims but doong 5+%+ of my damage, without rely on conditions like ominous trinket and icon
Either way need to do my dungeons tonight or tomorrow so I can get one of my trinkets
Augury is decent but it doesn't proc a lot for us
Want to at least try to do a normal raid too for a bullion drop
I'm so ready for another week of leggo not dropping.
also not buying ashkandur
beta warrior life
Can’t you craft it with a spark than make it tier?
what do u mean
uh no, you can't craft the legendary with a spark
Crafting your mom
Thought you meant legs.
Leggos in my equal pants
Have an ember fellow warrior
it gets put in your inventory on kill ye
I don’t think I would have played warr/pal/dk this season without the Leggo, oof. Such a dps daddy for arms w it
I'm about 518 without leggo
Like going from goku to krillin
ppl think i have leggo... then underdps
is.. this a high key? 
like combined 900k dps overall seems kind of sketch
It’s a 12
the spear is still good for raid mono ?
Guys how about aoe in execute phase? Do we use MS instead of Cleave to consume executioners precion stacks?
MS over cleave unless u gonna hit 4+ targets with the cleave
also why not just sweep strike
Sweeping strike have CD so it's not always up? So bassicly just ignore exe precision in 4+ targets?
in execute you just MS to eat EP stacks yes
can someone tell me what kinda weak aura or addon is that when a mob targets you with a spell you get a alert? so that you are better ready to click that SpellReflect.
i have full rage, 2 stacks of overpower, what i do? press slam to dump rage? overpower again even if rage full? clap? so many questions
tc > slam?
Yes
even on st?
Yes
can just drop slam from the bar
overpower/ms w/e charges they have just yolo right?
Charges don't matter, rage doesn't matter, we only follow the priority list
Do BS ticks consume Irideus Fragment?
no
is there a sure way to tell when third boss in uldaman is gona fire his dot?
my timers for that spell in particuar are all over the place and i cant precast reflect
he will always do it after a stomp
immeditely or is there a delay?
very often a delay or maybe another cast, but usually if you SR right after the knockback you'll catch it

i just look at the spell cds on nameplate and sometimes it queues something else when shards is available 
yeah because he always first recast his stun immunity
boss with spell queue are weird
they shouldnt exists it always create some problem
anyone can tell me why Enduring Dreadplate sims/ bloodmallet say that its good for multitarget arms ?
cause it explodes at the end of the buff
you don't need to be tanking to use the trinket
or for the trinket to work, rather
somebody using it and can show a dungeon dmg breakdown ?
Hey guys! If I clear amirdrassil in mythic, do I still need to do it in heroic for another shot at the leggy? And what about the greater and lesser embers, will I be able to get more in heroic?
no, yes
Ohh I thought doing it in mythic would mean that I won’t be able to receive any more greater or lesser embers in heroic
Because if we are able to get more embers in heroic after already doing it on mythic, isn’t it then beneficial to also do it on heroic even if you’ve done it on mythic? (The thing is, most people I’ve asked told me that if I did it on mythic, there’s no point in doing if on heroic anymore)
highest difficulty and you're done
Anyone know the command to sim howling/buzzing runes in sims?
So no more greater or lesser embers if I do heroic after mythic?
Thank you!
is there a bug with Bloodletting where Mortal Strike applies Rend even if the target is above 35% hp?
Had multiple cases where I cast 1 Mortal Strike on a mob with 100% hp and rend gets applied
happens openworld ye
what do you guys do to lower the stress on gpu in nymue ? my screen blacksout during that fight yet my gpu didnt even overheat
same thing with rashok and the first boss in hoi but i guess they fixed that boss
does anyone run 6-8 keys? how much dmg should I be seeing overall in dungs
I see around close to 400k, but not sure if I see should be seeing more. Packs die pretty quick so assume this should be fine?
particle density
does colossus smash affect rotation? don't see a mention on the priority list
sims dece is shit
always on cd
ok but does it change your rotation?
unless boss is about to go immune or so
you wanna hit 2 wws in it with TOM
thanks, i think it might be my psu not sure
but thats not end all be all
im no pc doctor but for me nymue got a lot better after I plugged in my gpu

What % of dmg is fyrakk Lego for yall
6-7
so i am still trying to read this (someone hit me with the pepe with the glasses trying to read a page) and understand what the best aoe/m+ trinkets are.
Obviously OCE is on top, but i can only have one of those, and if i can get rid of this puzzle box, I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO because i don't like having to stand still and cast
do you know what fight style this graph is simming
got it from wowhead, it just says "multitarget"
im gonna be real with you you're not gonna get rid of puzzle box if you want to play optimally
so oce + puzzle box is best for m+?
yes it getting parried will change how you play the fight you muppet

thank
Puzzle Box DPS increase is just too big
if you can fully stack OCE sure if not you might need to talk to your group about whether you can get full value from OCE, might wanna look into icon or pips instead
Or Call to Chaos
gotcha
if you're playing low keys
MOST of the time (at least for now) i am pugging or the rest of the guild group doesn't yet have an OCE (i don't either, the only really good trinket i have rn is a heroic signet brand i pulled out of my vault)
i'm just trying to get my trinkets sorted out in my head, raid/st is OCE + Signet brand* (assuming fight goes longer than 4 minutes)
M+ is what i am unsure about
Next week should be your OCE from bouillons
Rude
if you're not gonna touch mythic raid you should stick to puzzle box
(im assuming you are since hc vault)
get em alex
should be, but that's why i'm here trying to understand and learn more
even then only the final 2 bosses last long enough to extract signet value
Some people are trying to learn the very very complex pve scene u shouldn't talk shit on them for questions this discord is about bringing us together and learning together no wonder we can't get new players
the person he replied to is a boomkin
thats all you need to know
which 1 of the aoe builds is recommended for starting out with low gear for doing dungeons
the 1 bladestorm build(warlords torment)
If we dont have the leggo weapon what should our first buy with bullions be?
if you aren't close to getting leggo get ashkandur
how can you tell if you are close to getting the leggo? XD you can get lucky with rng any week
if you have killed fyrakk like 12 times then you're pretty close to guaranteeing it
on heroic
what builds u guys using on this m+ week?
are you guys going for pocket anvil or cataclysmic ?
blademaster torment?
its the 1 BS build
It’s the same node
choice node with blademasters
Just the other option
build options on wow head
ok ty
How do I convince my ret friend to buy OCE with me this reset?(instead of him just getting anvil)
Tell him keeping anvil up an entire dungeon is harder than performing ret's rotation
Yes
What buff do we take in AA?
faster faster faster!!!!!!
speed zooooom!!
I take vers cause its 5% flat damage and some dr.
haste might and I stress the might be ever so slightly more damage but its certainly not worth the 2.5% dr in my mind.
Vers is not 5% flat damage
huh, of course it is. Any damage you deal is increased by 5% with that buff. Why would it not
Funnily enough 5% Vers in AA is generally more than 2.5% DR
Assume you have 35% Vers already
the buff puts you at 40%
1.4/1.35 ~= 1.037
or 3.7% more damage
warrior math
I think it increases your character sheet stat doesnt it?
I do not play Warrior ty
I would have to go in and see now
how does that matter
Then its only one calculation not two.
???
You previously had a damage multiplier of 1.35 from your 35% Vers
after the 5% buff you have a 1.4 multiplier
started playing arms for ST raid fights after nearly 2 years fury, and my logs are very bad. any1 willing to look into some? am i doing something wrong in the rotation or what?
1.4 multiplier is 3.7% higher than 1.35 multiplier
IF you had exactly 0% Vers it would give you 5% more damage
Funnily enough it works the opposite way for the DR component of Versatility
That one gets BETTER the more Vers you have

100 dmg, modified by 20% vers is +20. modified by 25% vers is 25 damage, an increase of 5%
you deal 120 damage with 20% versatility
you now gain 5% versatility so you have 25% versatility
you now deal 125 damage
is 120->125 a 5% damage increase?
clearly 20% is the baseline no?
i jump at you
140/135 = 1.03737... = 103.7%
this is the lore here!
what the fuck!!! path of exile lore
I will destroy you the next time we meet
three maths students meet
gg go next
was a good run
they kiss
i do not think we'd kiss
I would kiss fellow math student spongie
😳
I have footage anda
okay
Could anyone answer me just how important fyralath is for doing good damage? I see the fellow arms warrior in my guild do 300k+ dps ST whilst i struggle to break 200 with ashkandur
I can tell u this that's not Lego diff
very important but also you're probably also being skill and gear diffed
Like on a dummy i can probs do 220k, but i struggle on boss fights
whats your ilvl
512
@halcyon breach
Leggo overall depends on how well you perform, but it should be somewhere ~6% +/- 1 iirc
@sacred zodiac
So i guess its just a git good issue then... Following a rotation through hekili really isnt helping me then
Well i felt it helped me consistently have something to press just dont know if it was the RIGHT thing to press
But yeah ill post a log if i can find it
just posted a log if any arms expert can loook into it
Hekili is fine if your really new but it doesn't really help you understand your rotation and why you press what buttons
@teal fossil how reliable is hekili atm?
they mustve either had shit ilvl or NOT followed it
nah
there is any better build than warlord for this m+ week?
not an expert but you only have 41 CPM and you're hard casting rend instead of TC
warlords is best



