#arms

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somber lance
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vs fury

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not saying either is hard, just in relation to one another

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i think it's a no brainer conclusion

wicked aurora
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they're both piss easy lol

cold garnet
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fury is easier tho

bleak cloud
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Hey gang, hope you’re doing well made the switch to arms yesterday after being a fury Stan for ages. Quick question if I spent my first two bullions on augury, should I keep and focus on other slots or look to replace it with bis trinkets?

cold garnet
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sim it

wicked aurora
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augury is lackluster for arms

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you will replace it at some point

bleak cloud
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Very fair, that’s annoying but I guess I’ll go for OCE and hope to get a puzzle box

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Ty for the advice

somber lance
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sim what is best for you at this point

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because we get mad bullions all the time

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augury might still be your best trinket as arms currently

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depending on your other trinkets

wicked aurora
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I mean you could just....stay fury

bleak cloud
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Fair fair, it’s doing bits in m+ with seal but I haven’t done any raiding yet, so will sim and see how it feels after raid tomorrow

boreal remnant
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what's a typical uptime for bsl over a dungeon?

bleak cloud
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I love fury but atm, it is a struggle to do damage

boreal remnant
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~40%?

hazy flower
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~ 70

wicked aurora
boreal remnant
wicked aurora
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like sure Arms is 6% ahead in single target but eh

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meme season anyways

bleak cloud
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Very true

wicked aurora
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that's also still fury simming at over 400k

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that puts fury at the 6th highest simming spec rn

bleak cloud
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I also don’t enjoy the S2 tier set play style

wicked aurora
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I can agree on that

boreal remnant
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same

wicked aurora
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a rage flooded spec did not need even more rage flooding

teal fossil
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honestly remember this

wicked aurora
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also not a fan of not pressing a button until the WA tells you to press button

teal fossil
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we dont know if mop has tier sets

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so we gotta figure out which spec is strongest without tier set

calm elm
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Honestly I don't like S3 or S2. One of my favorite things about fury is getting multiple Rampages in a row when popping off. Both tier don't like it when that happens.

teal fossil
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fury may actually be good in mop

calm elm
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At least S2 it happens less

wicked aurora
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huh

teal fossil
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multiple rampages are very good for S2

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and not good for S3

bleak cloud
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Yeah, you wanna stack off rampage for big crit

wicked aurora
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imagine thinking multiple ramps in a row is a good design for a builder spender

teal fossil
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overcapping your BT by 1 stack literally doesnt matter

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but losing 1 BB is really shit

slow saddle
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Wait the mop thing no tier just gems r ( with sick powers)

teal fossil
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i think so

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but im 99% sure the tuning will be live tuning

ornate eagle
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You get disgusting amount of secondary stats

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Ontop of the gems

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But yes no tiersets

teal fossil
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fellas who scales the best with gear

ornate eagle
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Depends who you ask

gaunt owl
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everybody

ornate eagle
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According to famous rwf person, bdk is always good at the end of an expansion because it scales so well

slow saddle
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Healthpool thing

wicked aurora
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honestly I think this is a "play FFXIV and raid log" season

ornate eagle
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Funny how bdk is nowhere to be seen tho

slow saddle
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In m+ u meant. Ye vdh is just to strong atm

teal fossil
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something something haste

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something something parry

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something something health pool

hardy fable
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I listed my +8 an hour ago , still no applies 😦

teal fossil
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not prime time in NA

ornate eagle
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That's rough

teal fossil
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not really a great time for EU either

ornate eagle
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Idk I just got 6 keys done in like 1.5hrs

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Went great

hardy fable
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6 keys ?! wow

teal fossil
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pug?

hardy fable
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i'm 510 with leggo, no invs and no joiners fo +8

ornate eagle
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Ya

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I yoinked a group from lfg, and turbo rushed

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They kept up

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So I sent more keys

wicked aurora
ornate eagle
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It can until it can't

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But yes

hardy fable
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thinking of a better marketing strategy, I'll advertise on Services that I'm paying 500g for people to join my group, basically paying for friends is what that is.

wicked aurora
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I'm just personally tired of vengeance soloing all the mechanics in dungeons

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can't wait to see how much brain damage it's caused to the average M+ player when that sigil talent is removed

gaunt owl
boreal remnant
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imagine getting into keys

somber lance
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timing you mean

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time of day

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or time in the season

gaunt owl
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already both

somber lance
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btw do you guys still use an addon for LFG after the update?

chilly hull
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is it worth to stack strenght with bladestorm before using thunderous roar?

boreal quartz
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with x2 bs yes

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without nah

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since you buff less of the roar if you do it after BS

astral yarrow
hazy flower
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melees hit so much

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my bdk getting meleed for 70% hp in 9's

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💀

astral yarrow
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Is BDK more fun than VDH @ornate eagle

boreal quartz
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real

ornate eagle
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I don't play either

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So can't say

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But given that arty rolled away from vdh to prot pally cuz vdh is turbo boring

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I'd say bdk is more fun

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You spend so many globals painting the floor as vdh instead of actually tanking

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That it's just annoying

misty iron
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how do you guys open on council of dreams? I try to do Roar as first global after charge to get them all before they jump all over

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I do roar->avatar->sweep->(hope tank pulls bear to aerwynn fast and not standing only near pip for 5 seconds before moving away)->CS->continue

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any other ideas?

hazy flower
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if you roar insta you'll only hit <= 2 targets

misty iron
hazy flower
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you'd want to charge pip since shes the only one that doesnt move

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charge pip, get some rage, spread dot and then depends if its pip or aerwynn your tanks are sitting on with bear swap

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roar somewhere in the beginning once you can make sure it hits all 3 targets

misty iron
grand idol
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They might be close enough together in the first second to all be hit

misty iron
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there's a slight delay before aerwynn jumps off

hazy flower
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ah I never charged bear

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seemed a bit cringe

toxic socket
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what ability is it on the second boss in NO do we spell reflecT?

misty iron
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i THINK i was able to get TClap off before she jumped as well

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on all three i mean

hazy flower
grand idol
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I use the opening seconds to dot pip then step out in my opener to hit all three with roar and a replacement clap for pip.

misty iron
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thanks for some insights

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the rest is pray that we have perma two targets

grand idol
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Though I guess in the new tier clap there might not be worth it.

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I spent our kill last night probably 30% of the time as a duck or standing out with javelin.

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So not much to contemplate.

misty iron
grand idol
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lol indeed.

misty iron
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tbh there's enough space all over for people to just move out of javelin

grand idol
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its ok though. while its nice to do the big cleave damage its a meme boss that simply needs everyone to play their part and survive to the end.

misty iron
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and I might be wrong but in general it seems like people moving out of circles rather than circle people moving out is more consistent

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to avoid "follow along for 5 seconds" just getting the entire dot

grand idol
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Our first pull was funny. our first spears got revivaled and killed 6 melee.

fathom hollow
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Does

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Seal of Diurnas Chosen proc on Fyralath

grand idol
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Should

steep osprey
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do

grand idol
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Also the helm enchant

steep osprey
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Yes

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Any fire or shadowflame damage

odd ledge
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Comparing a melee with a ranged class...smh

nova wigeon
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did you guys going to 2 BSL or 1 BSL + companion is good too ? for M+

hazy flower
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Latter is good yes

random olive
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Had a quick question, I've read through both the guides on wowhead/icyveins and I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around Bladestorm usage specifically, both in ST and aoe. Like where it fits into the rotation or priority list. Some of it still recommends to use it during TOM when that's not run in the recommended builds.

boreal quartz
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before cds in st

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after wb+roar in aoe

random olive
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thank you

still fox
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oce or icon trinket?

drowsy cobalt
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Im so confused about Neltharions trinket guys. It goes from zero procs on Gnarlroot(2:30 min fight) to like 50% uptime 8 procs on Larodar(3:45 min fight)

white canopy
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What does the change to lego mean now? We use amps for lego pop?

boreal quartz
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no u just sim for more

white canopy
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Ait

delicate spruce
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guys, if i already burned my normal fyrak save and didnt get the legen axe, i can try on hc too? or it is locked to 1 difficulty each week ?

raven nymph
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Just run the highest difficulty you can

rare kite
delicate spruce
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kk, ty fellas

white canopy
drowsy cobalt
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i see it procs all the time in m+ but it should proc of DN TC and ww too and we use those in ST regularly.

novel hollow
wind vault
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Do You think like running neltharions trinket and sark cloak is to dangerous? Or I'll be fine doing mostly +10s

rough crown
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You will be fine

astral yarrow
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You could unequip your tier set and still waltz through 10s

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Skill makes up for a lot

wind vault
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Okay cool 😁

clever ibex
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what do we prio with bullions?

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dont have fyr'alath yet either

leaden pumice
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what stat numbers are you guys running with arms right now?

novel hollow
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40/45/30/20 seems bis

leaden pumice
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okay im not far off im 38/39/19/22

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at 513

astral yarrow
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Please don’t chase arbitrary stat setups man

leaden pumice
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im still letting top gear sim take priority on the setup was just curious where everyone else was landing

astral yarrow
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Depending on what gear is available to you, you are gonna end up somewhere in DR for haste and crit and then just filling the rest

white canopy
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Just sim

astral yarrow
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That is always the answer

white canopy
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But sometimes tank chain pull an simmig for 8 min fight is weird

gaunt owl
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uninstall if you dont have my stats

astral yarrow
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Do not sim random fight times unless you are looking for something very specific. Like how signet brand does in a 3 min fight vs 8

gaunt owl
astral yarrow
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I’m 1% more in crit

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Guess wow gotta go

white canopy
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Are you fury?

astral yarrow
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That would never happen

somber lance
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40/40/20/20 is for kids

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We on that 60/60/40/40

white canopy
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I like 100/100/100/100 more

hearty hill
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Hey, what can I macro Puzzle Box to?

sacred zodiac
sacred zodiac
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its a 2 second channel you shouldnt be macroing that to anything

somber lance
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Any macro for full arms rotation?

gaunt owl
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i'm impressed

sacred zodiac
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dunno king

naive sage
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I think the only spec that needs a fixed amount of a certain stat is elemental with mastery isn't it?

boreal quartz
sacred zodiac
tiny sable
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is it troll running puzzlebox and iridius together? my trinket luck has been kinda doodoo so far

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so no raidtrinkets so far

sacred zodiac
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abt as good as it sims

compact tiger
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someone know where to get a half spark if u didnt do the quest last week?

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cause ist not droping in m+

naive sage
boreal quartz
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sounds dumb as hell

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this has NOTHING in it where it makes sense to gear X%

boreal quartz
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u got it twisted

naive sage
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Hm ok

silk spade
gaunt owl
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even worst if your mastery is a hard cap

slender steppe
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heyall, fresh 70 got my first 2 bullions, any pointers on what to buy first?

naive sage
boreal quartz
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thats like saying frost mage HAS to gear 33,3% crit

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just cuz its the cap

acoustic raven
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Should I recraft / make torc or allied wrists first ?

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Sim is pretty much the same only like 10 dps diff

boreal quartz
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ur call really

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i made crafted legs cuz i have mythic wrists and shit legs

silk spade
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not overcapping on a hardcap is ideal, but you dont disregard your other stats

naive sage
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I hope you get cancer

halcyon breach
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?

gaunt owl
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ok thats unnecessarily rude

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out of nowhere

sacred anvil
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Whoaaaaa

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This isn't the pvp channel guys can't talk like that

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And girls*

naive sage
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I cant stand him anymore

halcyon breach
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Okay, then block him

naive sage
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He has always tocixity for everyone

sacred anvil
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Block

halcyon breach
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What does it help to say what you said

naive sage
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Maybe he realizes in his rotten brain a bit of what it means

halcyon breach
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Your response is worse than what he said

gaunt owl
silk spade
gaunt owl
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people that say dumb shit should be called out btw, only fair to stop spreading the misinformation

latent moss
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im not sure

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tho

naive sage
weak saffron
charred adder
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Haven't played arms since the end of legion, mained fury since cata, came back to WoW in mid S3, loved that fury felt the same after quitting in SL, now the fury set just isn't working with my brain so arms it is

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need to rewire my brain

astral yarrow
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Welcome Armsowns

gaunt owl
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if you dont think its really out of nowhere

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you are fucked up in the head

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and if you get bruised because you are called dumb

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you need to go outside more

naive sage
gaunt owl
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i'm constantly spitting on those mplussers

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that come in with their shit take and shit build

weak saffron
gaunt owl
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and they dont wish me cancer

sacred zodiac
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phil is known to be a toxic person (what are you on about lmao)

weak saffron
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You seem to lack self awareness. Lol.

naive sage
weak saffron
gaunt owl
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if people say dumbshit

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i'm not gonna leave them off the hook

naive sage
weak saffron
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Thank God we have you here.

gaunt owl
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if i dont do that at my job people can die

weak saffron
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You certainly is the chosen one.

gaunt owl
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but you 2

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need a reality check if you are that mad because you got called dumb

naive sage
gaunt owl
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i didnt insult you

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see what you do ?

weak saffron
sacred zodiac
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you are kind of telling someone to go touch grass because you got told that you're wrong about something

weak saffron
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Your fragile ego is showing

sacred zodiac
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we love spreading misinformation on the internet

naive sage
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I did not say anything as a fact

weak saffron
latent moss
silk spade
naive sage
latent moss
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wtf zhai in arms chat???

naive sage
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But you think you an say anything you want on a discord chat

silk spade
wind iron
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Meemaw come put PPAWW to bed. He’s scaring the kids.

silk spade
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@latent moss :CAUGHT:

silk spade
sacred zodiac
silk spade
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people are hostile in the internet, nothing new, grow a thicker skin man

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it's not that deep

naive sage
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Learn to read

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Learn what a question mark is

sacred zodiac
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you read all of that message and decided that the biggest problem with it was the first half, not the half where you wished someone death

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good one

gaunt owl
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the Drake defense

naive sage
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He is always like this

sacred zodiac
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you would do what again?

weak saffron
silk spade
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don't think anyone in the convo thinks they're being cool

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might wanna take the boomer discourse somewhere else

weak saffron
gaunt owl
silk spade
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I'm not even implicated in the argument

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bro thinks he is dalai lama and can't even read between the lines

weak saffron
sacred zodiac
silk spade
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what's up with all the redditors lately

silk spade
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just farming conflict

steep osprey
silk spade
radiant holly
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Wow, what's dn? BiS?

silk spade
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pretty good talent

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does a lot of damage

radiant holly
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So you're saying DN are big?

silk spade
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dn very big yeah

radiant holly
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Blessed

steep osprey
lost rose
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if in full bis whats the most optimal slot to put second blue silken on? Wrists?

steep osprey
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Wrists or boots or neck

gaunt owl
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Wrists is one of the worst item that give main stats

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and one of the few slots already taken by the other embellishment

boreal quartz
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#️⃣1️⃣🇮🇹👑

gray steeple
halcyon breach
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I would not use Shoulders for an embellishment slot

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Wrists, Cloak, Neck, Belt and Boots generally are the best slots to put an embellishment on, because they're either low stat budgets, or you don't have a unique item from the raid/bullions there (except Cloak but Sark cloak not worth imo)

steep osprey
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I can finally use this

latent moss
boreal quartz
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in aoe can go over tho

latent moss
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thats the only "cap" im aware of

steep osprey
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🧢

steep osprey
wary raft
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I thought f mage stood for fuck mages

gaunt owl
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it does for me

steep osprey
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why is that censored

boreal quartz
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cuz i said bad words

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but cancer is okay - just means crab

steep osprey
wary raft
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I had one auto mod once I didnt know what I said was bad

gaunt owl
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you cant say T i t s

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for obscure reason

boreal quartz
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i wonder if i can say pineapple on pizza

olive nest
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oooofff

gaunt owl
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i'm ok with ananas pizza !

olive nest
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def should be censored

latent moss
silk spade
steep osprey
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It's fine

gaunt owl
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Swedish people put banana on them too

crimson charm
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So, 24 hour timeout for @gaunt owl for the pizza opinion, sounds fair?

olive nest
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LOL

steep osprey
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banana pizza is ban worthy

latent moss
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yes

olive nest
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gottem

somber lance
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rekt

gaunt owl
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😄

steep osprey
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pineapple is fine

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but banana/

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??

crimson charm
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Also, don't you diss Banana, curry and peanut pizza until you've tried it!

steep osprey
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nuh uh

latent moss
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bro

crimson charm
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It's not the best one I've ever eaten, but it works

somber lance
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so you guys ever use vers phial in m+?

gaunt owl
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when going higher

somber lance
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inb4 just use defensives

gaunt owl
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you cant swap phial in combat

gray steeple
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Why wouldn't you use it? Vers helps your leggy.

somber lance
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crit is omega good

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1.2k crit

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das goooddddddd

inner wasp
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crit lets me see 600k mortal strikes more often

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better stat

gaunt owl
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we can go much higher ! 😄

somber lance
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whats good uptime on tier set bonus

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in m+

latent moss
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wait

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so u are telling me

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riders of the apocalypse

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doesnt work in instances

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?XD

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like u dont see the dk on a horse and shit

somber lance
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its for outer world content no?

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muh immersion

latent moss
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no way that makes it to live

gaunt owl
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just track it

latent moss
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sure u can make the horsemen invisible or something

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nah

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make them smaller or somethingi dk

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why not let dk be on a horse

somber lance
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i had 60% last key

gaunt owl
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yeah thats down bad

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need to push more cleave

somber lance
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prolly cause we had wipes

gaunt owl
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in AOE you should have pretty much 99%

somber lance
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ill do a clean key and see

gaunt owl
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not dying is the most important thing as a dps

somber lance
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i know

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but arms

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i have 3 defensives i need to juggle now

boreal quartz
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30 seconds after death

gaunt owl
boreal quartz
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great content

humble basin
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sure it does dam but it feels like ass to play

silk spade
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big 0 parse

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i didn't die somehow

honest girder
humble basin
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oh well i mean its entirely my opinion

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all the more power to all who like it

honest girder
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Nothing stopping you go fury if you prefer that more

humble basin
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im pushing on my spriest anyway

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yeah, i am playing fury in keys

honest girder
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Or join the Andy’s 😂

humble basin
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fun class

boreal quartz
humble basin
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wouldnt play it if it wasnt also fun

boreal quartz
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got like a high ish blue

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for doing nothin

gray steeple
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I like it but do feel squishy in keys as Arms. If dps is pretty equal, I'll go fury in keys, Arms for raid

boreal quartz
honest girder
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I get the impression your idea of fun is numbers?

boreal quartz
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press ip more

humble basin
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no

boreal quartz
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then arm is a tank

latent moss
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fury full healing every tick of 5 cshb

humble basin
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arms drowns in rage now so ip rarely feels as bad as youd think

raven nymph
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Fueled + IP is crazy tanky.

honest girder
latent moss
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if only we could take both

raven nymph
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Oh wait. Sorry. fury bis. Real dps tank. My bad. keks

boreal quartz
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tank dps too

raven nymph
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Checks notes. Hit WW more.

cursive sun
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lowkey anvil is looking so goated in keys

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hoping to get in in vault

gray steeple
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Maybe for really low keys but not higher ones, imo. Better choices available

gaunt owl
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it was ok in S2 if you kept the buff up

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but you could use brand and chain pull and get far more value on it

quasi torrent
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brand is a lot harder to keep up compared to anvil though.

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with anvil u can go stretches of 30s without combat

lost kernel
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how do we pad with legendary on first tindrall roots?

quasi torrent
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u need a freedom for that

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precasting kinda useless cause u dont feed it

lost kernel
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so thats why retri do shit ton of damage first roots and i cant

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?

boreal quartz
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pressing cds on adds innit

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if you just ava wb roar lego roots they also implode

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tho on hc id just roar 2nd roots cuz everyone is dry for em

quasi torrent
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if u play wb

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and u send ava on first roots

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i will execute u

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(assuming mythic)

humble basin
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what about lfr strat

boreal quartz
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like just get feather on mythic

quasi torrent
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m tindral parses are a meme, but hc is even more cornge

quasi torrent
boreal quartz
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hc is be boostrun or get orange

quasi torrent
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make sure u take one the fliers usually take

boreal quartz
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tbh

quasi torrent
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so u fuck them

boreal quartz
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i did that every now and then

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good content

gaunt owl
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they probably get lost going outside too

latent moss
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arms needs 10s to start doing damage

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if u are playing blaestorm for pad

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(demon build)

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i guess you could play wb iftk

manic stirrup
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before a global passes

gaunt owl
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oh yeah Warlock are cheating

violet steeple
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Parsing in a meme season yolo

sacred anvil
nova wigeon
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Hey just dropped puzzle box but i'm a bit confuse , in what windows should we use it ? after use all CD or before ?

gray steeple
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before

unborn basin
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If I don’t plan on pushing crazy high keys where the kickback from CTC would kill me is it a competitive dps option? Highest I’ll probably go late in the season is 15s lol

sacred anvil
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I'm scared to ask but what's CTC?

sacred zodiac
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echo class trinket

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call to chaos

sacred anvil
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Ah

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Ty

rare kite
sacred zodiac
somber mason
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arms big weapon big damage crits smash slice kill

sacred anvil
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No that's fury ur in the wrong channel

somber mason
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no its arms

sacred anvil
somber mason
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i see you are not yet familiar with the way of the warrior

sacred anvil
#

Arms is like a tactician studying opponents weaknesses

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No I zug

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All I do rly

#

But flavor wise I think that's what they going for

somber mason
#

arms big sword kill

sacred anvil
#

Fury 2 big sword 2 less button

#

Who am I kidding I'm barely even a wow player I just MS and spin babbyyyy

quasi torrent
latent moss
manic stirrup
#

the passive tactician

#

duh

somber mason
#

anyone else feeling like shit since ip doesnt reset overpower

sacred anvil
#

I would say smash too

#

U find their weakness

#

By smashing

halcyon breach
manic stirrup
sacred anvil
somber mason
rare kite
somber mason
#

now i have no reason to press ip because im a dps and dps dont press non-dps buttons

latent moss
timber lynx
#

yeah so run fueled

timber lynx
#

and never press defensives like a chad

somber mason
summer elbow
#

Are magora orc free or i have to do the quest for them? Cause im making a new account

sacred anvil
#

U literally just talk to em

#

Iirc

summer elbow
#

Finally i can be xXGarroshXx

white canopy
#

Do people actually play without cleave now?

rare kite
white canopy
#

But the "best m+" spec in guides is without cleave

rare kite
#

think you're looking at an old guide then

white canopy
#

I guess so

#

Its the one on Skyhold thought

rare kite
#

i'm looking at wowhead right now and it has the correct build with cleave

white canopy
#

Yeah, wowhead, but I mean on Skyhold

#

In the guide-resources-faq

gray steeple
#

Looking at an old season build

clever ibex
#

is it worth buying ash while farming fyr'alath?

halcyon breach
#

If you have basically no Fyrakk kills, buying Ashkandur is a good option yes

clever ibex
#

champion ty 🙂

halcyon breach
#

However if you're near guaranteed drop (15th kill), then you can hold off on it

clever ibex
#

ive only done 1 LFR kill so far so probably best bet to get ash

halcyon breach
#

Yeah you're fine to buy Ashkandur then

clever ibex
#

sweet ty 🙂

crude raft
#

very stupid questions i have is it possible to have cast sequance macro for execute XD?

drowsy cobalt
#

At least fury bros dont have this problem. They buy ash anyway

halcyon breach
clever ibex
halcyon breach
#

I would never use castsequence for any rotation

#

Especially since Arms is very proc heavy, and which buttons you use in Execute changes based on your Rage

sacred anvil
#

I use cast sequence for roar + bladestorm

#

But I have a separate button

hazy flower
#

pretty pointless

#

you do different rotation in st and aoe

#

with roar bs

#

nvm im too tired I thought u meant wb

#

still pointless

sacred anvil
lost kernel
#

damn i copypasted m+ build and i ask myself , how the hell iam suppose to find 2 more buttons for bladestorm and cleave....daamn

hazy flower
#

I meant wb and bladestorm, in aoe you do wb into bs / in st bs into wb

gaunt owl
#

its never good to macro 2 GCD abilities

hazy flower
#

unless youre fury

#

you can macro next 30 seconds

manic stirrup
#

i remember when ppl would make macros u can literally just spam 100 times

#

and do a halfway decent rotation

#

kind of cool lol

sacred anvil
crude raft
#

next bullion idk what to get since i got weapon and ring i got sigil on heroic track and not sure if icon/chromatic is worth it since idk if i got all buffs or even 2 got kazzara trinket on hero track and last season crafted cape

hazy flower
#

there was a opener for fury in s3

manic stirrup
#

idk if ppl still do that or not

sacred anvil
#

Then I have a separate BS button

#

For when I need to break cc

gaunt owl
#

so you still have 2 button

sacred anvil
#

Yeah just nice when I don't have to use one

#

It's a lil things

gaunt owl
#

its like driving an automatic only to use the clutch because you have to

sacred anvil
#

I pvp so idk about optimal rotation or sims I just zug

shadow onyx
#

i just picked up OCE what stat should i go for on it?

smoky kayak
shadow onyx
#

thank you for letting me know

sacred anvil
#

Thank you @smoky kayak for everything u do for the warrior community

reef glade
manic stirrup
#

NO RPOBLEM FRIEND

robust heath
worldly kernel
#

Good morning skyhold

quick frost
#

Hey anyone know what oathstone arms wants with the ominous trinket?

boreal quartz
#

NO RPOBLEM FRIEND

boreal quartz
gaunt owl
#

everything !

quick frost
#

what oathstone is that

gaunt owl
#

you want a full stats one

#

but everything is good

quick frost
#

...

sharp wyvern
astral yarrow
# quick frost ...

Search up the trinket on wowhead and you’ll find what the different stones do and where they are

misty iron
#

idk if this has been (didn't find in search) or should be reported, but puzzlebox isn't being used in quick sim, the buff just appears

halcyon breach
#

Its used prepull, like you would ingame

rare kite
#

literally on the picture

misty iron
#

am I blind? I see the buff appears, but the use is not shown

gaunt owl
#

because its 2 seconds before you pull

misty iron
#

or is that how it's normally shown in these (apart from pre-buffs)

halcyon breach
#

In puzzle boxs case it's not shown as a cast, because its before the fight starts, but it has a line to apply it on pull to simulate it the way you'd do it ingame

misty iron
#

I thought it should be shown with the other stuff, especially considering at 0:00 it's not there then at 0:00 with stance it's there

drowsy cobalt
#

Spaghetti code probablydoesnt have -2

gaunt owl
#

SimC isnt spaghetti code

lone imp
#

blud must have fat fingered that 1

cloud lagoon
#

Is it possible to cancel the axe channel guys?

clever crag
#

Whats a solid overall nowadays ? For brh for example

lone imp
cloud lagoon
#

I see I already did that so I am good

lone imp
#

You will immediately stop chenneling

#

There is a way but it's probably not what you're asking for

#

if you overlap charge and axe it will cancel the axe

cloud lagoon
#

Why is that the moment I press the axe I get every random aoe spell on me critcake

lone imp
#

this is the way

clever crag
#

Yeah its annoying af

lone imp
#

My go to is yelling "oh no!"

clever crag
#

Shoulda just been an instant attack

lone imp
#

or like fists of fury

cloud lagoon
#

I going to make a yell macro I am pressing the axe so healer can prepare XD

lone imp
#

I mean they changed grieftorch so it didn't root you

#

so why axe need to

cloud lagoon
#

High risk high reward I guess

clever crag
#

Cuz its SO POWERFUL attack you cannot move

lone imp
#

torch is pretty high reward lol

timber lynx
#

Torch doesnt do 1 mil damage when you press it

#

Axe does

lone imp
#

tf it doesn't

timber lynx
#

Mine literally says it does 955k damage

#

On the active

cloud lagoon
#

Maybe the axe has a hidden target frick you effect . The moment you press it mobs insta cast on you hehe

clever crag
#

What about beacon

lone imp
#

torch does more than 1m when you press it

#

lol

timber lynx
#

🤷‍♂️

raven nymph
#

Trusting tooltips. keks

lone imp
#

Looking at our dh, his average press is over 2m

timber lynx
#

Axe just sucks then dude idk!

raven nymph
#

What’s wrong with the axe?

lone imp
#

root sucks

raven nymph
#

The pull is worse than the root

halcyon breach
lone imp
#

I never get pulled if I don't intend to

#

it's the root that sucks

timber lynx
#

Just position better clueless

#

Press all ur defensives

lone imp
#

just see the future

timber lynx
#

Exactly

clever crag
#

They should just make you invincible for the cast clueless

#

That would be funny

raven nymph
cloud lagoon
#

Axe gets 10 percent dmg for every target marked no?

halcyon breach
#

It does

cloud lagoon
#

So axe should outdps torch in aoe no?

silk spade
lone imp
#

grieftorch fucks lol

timber lynx
#

it was always good

lone imp
#

Yeah I know, and now it doesn't root, and it does in fact do over 1m when you press it

timber lynx
#

i mean most of the damage from the axe comes from the dot iirc

#

so who rlly cares its free damage

raven nymph
#

dot keeps ring going. Ezlife

timber lynx
#

ring is wild

timber lynx
cloud lagoon
#

Yeah, nice I waited 1 hour for an elite. I am in the wrong dimension thanks to a wq....

clever crag
#

How is augury as 2nd trink incase I wanna play fury too

timber lynx
#

Augury is pretty mid for arms but really good for fury

rigid prawn
#

what are the best sim settings for arms? for raid 1 boss 5 min and for m+? dungeon slice or 5 bosses 40 sec?

prime grotto
#

should i use my booleans to get ashkandur until i get the leggo? still havent got my drop

#

bullions*

gaunt owl
#

thats the next best thing

gaunt owl
#

but if you arent in a rush next week you can get lego

#

i would always keep 2 bullions til lego drop personally

manic stirrup
prime grotto
#

only issue is my warrior is barrely 470 atm so getting into even a normal is gonna be a task

gaunt owl
#

you can look your armory for amount of kills

prime grotto
manic stirrup
#

a lot easier that way

opal folio
#

Have fun in whatever remains of the meme season

prime grotto
#

yeah w the quest that gives two this week i feel like getting ashjkandur wouldnt be bad

#

plus i like to play fury from time to time

opal folio
#

You might get unlucky and it takes the full 15 or w/e kills it needs

prime grotto
opal folio
#

What would be left of the season by then

prime grotto
#

yeah true

#

fuggit

#

asscandy it is

opal folio
#

I mean, don’t rush it

#

Think it over for the remainder of this reset

charred brook
#

Never give up hope!!!

opal folio
#

Then pull the trigger on Wednesday

gaunt owl
#

get your heroic kill in

charred brook
#

I killed it 3 times and got the axe!! You can do it too

prime grotto
#

well by the time i complete the weekly this week ill have 5 bullions

charred brook
#

Just get a heroic or mythic weapon drop from raid and you will be fine until it drops

prime grotto
#

also true

charred brook
#

I was using a heroic voti mace until mine dropped this week

prime grotto
#

so ig i can snag augury or something instead

charred brook
#

I grabbed signet first bullion

#

It’s opretty based but

#

Idk if you’re pushing hard mythic raid or not

prime grotto
#

im a m+ andy

charred brook
#

If you’re only doing normal and heroic may not be as good cause shorter fights

#

Oh yeah

prime grotto
#

id value you the more AOE sentric trinket more

charred brook
#

Maybe OCE or augury then

#

I use puzzle box and oce

#

For m+

prime grotto
#

i was gonna pair OCE and aug

charred brook
#

You don’t like puzzy b?

timber lynx
#

Ayyy puzzy B

prime grotto
#

hmm ig that would be better for burst windows huh

timber lynx
#

My guy puzzy B will make you do some FAT aoe burst

prime grotto
#

ill play around w it

charred brook
#

Yeah I like it

prime grotto
#

chances are ill get both

charred brook
#

I would say

#

Oce will be harder than any other trinket for u to get prob

#

Because everybody wants one

#

Half my guild grabbed oce with bullion

timber lynx
#

yeah that was my first bullion cop after scales

prime grotto
#

yeah i wanna do OCE first

charred brook
#

I got our only drop one 😈

timber lynx
#

actually i lied

#

I got one in my vault

#

With avoidance

prime grotto
#

wait if i get the axe to drop from an awakened raid would i still need to use the bullions on it?

timber lynx
#

No

#

I dont think so?

prime grotto
#

oooohhh

#

if that's true this changes things

timber lynx
#

i think it drops at 502 but i could be so wrong

prime grotto
#

now i really wanna get it this week lol

timber lynx
#

im not sure

gaunt owl
#

should still have to upgrad

clever crag
#

I got icon 2nd pick

timber lynx
#

You still have to spend the 2 bullions even if it drops in s4?

#

that’s wack

clever crag
#

And I really dislike the puzzle box change

#

The cast is so damn long and annoying mid fight

prime grotto
#

i macro it to bladestorm

#

you can channel it while spinning

#

what oce atunement do we want again

#

crit?

timber lynx
#

Cant go wrong with crit

gaunt owl
#

haste !

copper swan
#

whatever your sim tells / you personnally want

rare kite
glossy olive
#

When do we use Algeth'ar Puzzle Box

#

was dis cast shite messing with my bive

#

vibe

rare kite
#

prepull and on cd basically

glossy olive
#

ty

hazy flower
wind vault
#

Is there a big dps increase when getting 4p? I am at 2p + 2p right now

sacred zodiac
hazy flower
#

yes

#

0.5% dps loss

#

over my puzzle box

#

(:

fallen fjord
#

noice

#

I got the one from the 2nd boss

#

Accelerating sandglass

hazy flower
#

its meh but speed is decent

#
  • saves me some aspects
#

since my box was 515

dusty venture
#

any weakaura wizards know if theres a toothless dancing to driftveil bloodlust/other aura

#

wait wrong chat arms doesnt know shit thats fury

somber lance
#

actually the fury chat is more dented

cold vigil
#

is this the buff for arms from incandescent essence?

dusty venture
cunning heart
#

hm did the trinket api for arms get updated? havent changed any gear yet augury sims awefully high all of a sudden

dire hinge
loud wadi
#

Haha

dire hinge
dusty venture
#

i personally use chipi lust

#

not a fan of the pedro one

#

wanted to know if there was one already because i do not want to put in the effort to change the files

dire hinge
#

doesn't look like it, unfortunately

velvet hull
#

What's a good percentage of Strength for post-Colossal ToM buff?

dire hinge
#

it's just sort of a byproduct of what you have available to you within your CS window

velvet hull
#

So is the other talent, In For The Kill, not worth it?

#

Sometimes I feel like I prefer IFTK over ToM just due to the haste buff, like a mini lust or personal PI

dire hinge
#

In for the Kill is used more for Mythic+ and heavy AoE fights alongside the Warbreaker talent (AoE Colossus Smash)

velvet hull
#

Oh I see

dire hinge
#

ToM benefits more from "Blunt Instruments", since it makes your Colussus Smash window longer (and longer Colossus Smash = more time to build a larger ToM)

#

you don't really shoot for a specific ToM value though, it's not worth trying to game ToM's value, just follow the Arms spell priority, since you primarily want to focus on doing damage inside of your Colossus Smash window, and ToM will "be whatever it ends up, as a byproduct"

velvet hull
#

Oh okay, I feel better about it then. It just felt like ToM had to be min-maxed or smth for good dps

dire hinge
#

No worries there, the priority/rotation for Arms is inheritly set up to get you a good ToM/Anger Management value

velvet hull
#

okay, so just use MS as much as possible while using Exec on cd with Avatar and Colossus?

dire hinge
#

Within single target, Arms plays in two ways depending on boss health: Normal Rotation and Execute Rotation

For normal rotation, you're trying to maintain Rend, use major CDs, MS on cooldown, Sudden Death procs, then use Overpower to get MS back. If MS/OP are unavailable, you spend rage via WW>Tclap to get an Overpower charge back, and repeat.

For execute rotation, you're basically using major CDs, then doing MS -> At Least 2 Executes -> MS

  • Mortal Strike when you have 2x "Executioner's Precision" debuffs on the target
  • Execute if you have more than 40 rage
  • Overpower if you have less than 40 rage
velvet hull
#

Ah okay, I see where you naturally build the ToM buff. Thanks!

dire hinge
#

absolutely! I hope this helps a bit, but if you have any other questions about Arms people here are usually quite happy to help

tough steppe
#

Man, i found a really good group

#

For M+

#

But damn, we failed a +12 Ulda because last boss is ass

#

We tried to stack but the damage was too much

#

Had to do the conventional way

#

30 seconds overtime

#

Jugg build seems far better this week for ultra high stuff

#

I lose AOE but my single target gets far better to compensate

wicked aurora
tough steppe
#

It would be useful for Deios

dire hinge
#

im cooking up something more stupid though

wicked aurora
#

I miss my execute super saiyan WA

#

Never could get it to work again after it broke in SL

tough steppe
#

I miss Legion execute

#

99 stacks

gaunt owl
#

shut up

tough steppe
#

good times

gaunt owl
#

thats fury shit

wicked aurora
#

Yeah fury is gross

dire hinge
wicked aurora
#

Omg please tell me you’re reviving it

tough steppe
cyan lagoon
wicked aurora
#

But eh all this is changing in TWW anyways

cyan lagoon
#

Warrior saved in tww

gaunt owl
#

Warrior deleted

#

xpac cancelled

#

our lives can be saved

rare kite
dire hinge
#

more like The Warrior Within

runic urchin
#

my first raid on arms was going so good until fyrakk deadge

gaunt owl
#

only cool things for TWW now are the hero tree

gaunt owl
#

nothing else look good

wicked aurora
#

My rage economy looks good

runic urchin
cyan lagoon
#

Is it gloom and doom time?

#

I figured that was in a couple of months

wicked aurora
#

Cleave looks good honestly

runic urchin
#

do we have to save cds for roots to parse on tindral?

wicked aurora
#

Only thing I’m mad about is the fact that they ruined my WW button

#

Bring back SoS

wicked aurora
#

But good luck

#

Everyone else wants to blow them up too

gaunt owl
runic urchin
#

i just want all purples man im not good enough to get oranges and i know that

tropic umbra
#

Aug makes me go HHHNNNNNNGGG

wicked aurora
gaunt owl
#

so only choice was to scale everything up in rage spending

#

or tune down everything

wicked aurora
#

They could have just tuned down SoS

#

Or bake it into the button

#

I.e. just has a CD for arms

#

But hits hard

gaunt owl
#

and make it the best DPR ability ?

wicked aurora
#

I see no problem with pressing WW often

gaunt owl
#

we already have too many to push and its not gonna stop in TWW yet

tough steppe
#

idk if i should buy Signet next week

#

I just raid heroics

#

Maybe i should buy Filial Duty

#

I got a Diurna already(it's 515 but it helps a lot)

rare kite
tough steppe
#

This is my first time playing Arms in more than 10 years and my tendinitis really says thanks

ionic fjord
#

logs make it look like arms is bangin this season. is that real or is it bait because other specs dont have 4 piece/bis yet

brittle light
#

might be a really dumb question, do u guys use sweeping strikes on ST for the 2nd dreadnaught wave too?

#

does that even work?

marsh axle
#

How would you get a second wave if there's no second target to SS into?

brittle light
#

honestly no idea how that interaction works xd

somber lance
#

right im not too far off on 4pc uptime. crit had 80% on NO. im getting closer to 70% pressing cleave like a madman

brisk fjord
#

It’s free this season

#

Arms is pumping

boreal quartz
#

or youll do hc amir even non awakened xdd

brisk fjord
# tough steppe I just raid heroics

Then signet won’t be so good as most bosses falls over too fast. Im gonna go OCE as a good stat stick as many in my raid and m+ friends got it.

lilac fossil
#

nvm found it

#

on wowhead!

brisk fjord
lilac fossil
#

yhhh

#

ty

brisk fjord
#

But if you go BIG pulls it’s more worth it with make TR go brrrrr

lilac fossil
#

Tyran, most of the time is spent on bosses so will prob stick to jugg

#

prob a decent increase in ST dmg

#

never tried it, but will have a crack

chilly mulch
#

guyas fresh warr here

#

there's like 45 buttons to press

#

hard 2 hard

#

i thought this class was zug zug

lilac fossil
#

Arms? there's like 8 buttons max

dire hinge
brisk fjord
chilly mulch
#

yeah maybe iu need to fury

#

cuz this intimidating

brisk fjord
# chilly mulch cuz this intimidating

Press Overpower to to get rage
Spend on Mortal Strike (cleave if aoe and many mobs)
Execute when bosses or priority targets are low, but always send MS when it’s up. = win

dire hinge
# chilly mulch there's like 45 buttons to press

it seems quite overwhelming at first, but try focusing on just the main rotation buttons and don't look at utility buttons yet. At its core, arms uses about 4-5 major CDs and about 6 rotation buttons

wicked aurora
chilly mulch
wicked aurora
#

Ya’ll acting like removing RB made it less buttons when you literally added slam to replace RB

dire hinge
brisk fjord
minor gust
#

ill just adjust it to be more prominent

wicked aurora
wicked aurora
#

BT/BB, slam, WW, execute, ramp, TR/Spear, OF

manic stirrup
#

fury is the same amount of buttons in annihilator or in raging blow

wicked aurora
#

Real

dire hinge
wicked aurora
#

Acting like it’s not is cope

brisk fjord
wicked aurora
#

How does slam not count?

#

Wut

manic stirrup
#

slam and whirlwind are rotational in st

#

but yeah

#

dont really count

wicked aurora
#

You didn’t want to do that

dire hinge
#

I have a sword ring one that just makes a single sound when the 35% threshold is breached too, that one is nice on the brain

manic stirrup
#

u can macro ms and overpower

#

doesnt mean its good lol

wicked aurora
#

This is some cooked take lmao

#

As if you didn’t use WW in single target

#

Actually nevermind reading this take I now understand why you wouldn’t have liked S3 fury, probably had giga downtime in your rotation because you didn’t press buttons

brisk fjord
manic stirrup
#

not the flex you think it is

brisk fjord
#

Just saying the macro worked

#

6’5” shorty

stray willow
#

Do I have to hit slam or can I hit thunderclap instead

manic stirrup
#

thanks for reminding me how much of a sigma male i am..

brisk fjord
#

6’9” here. So mega sigma?

wicked aurora
#

Heroic parsing

brisk fjord
#

dated girls taller than you ☕️

manic stirrup
#

anything over 6’6 would be uncomfortable

manic stirrup
brisk fjord
manic stirrup
#

nice man i prefer shorter girls anyways