#arms
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not saying either is hard, just in relation to one another
i think it's a no brainer conclusion
they're both piss easy lol
fury is easier tho
Hey gang, hope you’re doing well made the switch to arms yesterday after being a fury Stan for ages. Quick question if I spent my first two bullions on augury, should I keep and focus on other slots or look to replace it with bis trinkets?
sim it
Very fair, that’s annoying but I guess I’ll go for OCE and hope to get a puzzle box
Ty for the advice
sim what is best for you at this point
because we get mad bullions all the time
augury might still be your best trinket as arms currently
depending on your other trinkets
I mean you could just....stay fury
Fair fair, it’s doing bits in m+ with seal but I haven’t done any raiding yet, so will sim and see how it feels after raid tomorrow
what's a typical uptime for bsl over a dungeon?
I love fury but atm, it is a struggle to do damage
~40%?
it shouldn't be
lot better now since the buffs
Very true
that's also still fury simming at over 400k
that puts fury at the 6th highest simming spec rn
I also don’t enjoy the S2 tier set play style
I can agree on that
same
a rage flooded spec did not need even more rage flooding
honestly remember this
also not a fan of not pressing a button until the WA tells you to press button
we dont know if mop has tier sets
so we gotta figure out which spec is strongest without tier set
Honestly I don't like S3 or S2. One of my favorite things about fury is getting multiple Rampages in a row when popping off. Both tier don't like it when that happens.
fury may actually be good in mop
At least S2 it happens less
thats just not true
huh
Yeah, you wanna stack off rampage for big crit
overcapping your BT by 1 stack literally doesnt matter
but losing 1 BB is really shit
Wait the mop thing no tier just gems r ( with sick powers)
You get disgusting amount of secondary stats
Ontop of the gems
But yes no tiersets
fellas who scales the best with gear
Depends who you ask
everybody
According to famous rwf person, bdk is always good at the end of an expansion because it scales so well
Healthpool thing
honestly I think this is a "play FFXIV and raid log" season
In m+ u meant. Ye vdh is just to strong atm
something something haste
something something parry
something something health pool
I listed my +8 an hour ago , still no applies 😦
not prime time in NA
That's rough
not really a great time for EU either
6 keys ?! wow
pug?
i'm 510 with leggo, no invs and no joiners fo +8
Ya
I yoinked a group from lfg, and turbo rushed
They kept up
So I sent more keys
it do be weird cuz blood can do (albeit on a smaller scale) what vengeance can do
thinking of a better marketing strategy, I'll advertise on Services that I'm paying 500g for people to join my group, basically paying for friends is what that is.
I'm just personally tired of vengeance soloing all the mechanics in dungeons
can't wait to see how much brain damage it's caused to the average M+ player when that sigil talent is removed
its just not the right timing to do keys if you arent proposing 10+
imagine getting into keys
already both
btw do you guys still use an addon for LFG after the update?
is it worth to stack strenght with bladestorm before using thunderous roar?
with x2 bs yes
without nah
since you buff less of the roar if you do it after BS
Roar lasts long enough for entire roar duration to be within hurricane window
I swear
melees hit so much
my bdk getting meleed for 70% hp in 9's
💀
Is BDK more fun than VDH @ornate eagle
real
I don't play either
So can't say
But given that arty rolled away from vdh to prot pally cuz vdh is turbo boring
I'd say bdk is more fun
You spend so many globals painting the floor as vdh instead of actually tanking
That it's just annoying
how do you guys open on council of dreams? I try to do Roar as first global after charge to get them all before they jump all over
I do roar->avatar->sweep->(hope tank pulls bear to aerwynn fast and not standing only near pip for 5 seconds before moving away)->CS->continue
any other ideas?
I dont roar insta
if you roar insta you'll only hit <= 2 targets
how come?
you'd want to charge pip since shes the only one that doesnt move
charge pip, get some rage, spread dot and then depends if its pip or aerwynn your tanks are sitting on with bear swap
roar somewhere in the beginning once you can make sure it hits all 3 targets
S3 i charged bear and insta roared and i think that hits 3
They might be close enough together in the first second to all be hit
there's a slight delay before aerwynn jumps off
what ability is it on the second boss in NO do we spell reflecT?
wind burst or w.e the name is, you have to taunt and get out of melee
I use the opening seconds to dot pip then step out in my opener to hit all three with roar and a replacement clap for pip.
Though I guess in the new tier clap there might not be worth it.
I spent our kill last night probably 30% of the time as a duck or standing out with javelin.
So not much to contemplate.
the play is "Oh sorry i didn't know I had javelin on, my bad"
lol indeed.
tbh there's enough space all over for people to just move out of javelin
its ok though. while its nice to do the big cleave damage its a meme boss that simply needs everyone to play their part and survive to the end.
and I might be wrong but in general it seems like people moving out of circles rather than circle people moving out is more consistent
to avoid "follow along for 5 seconds" just getting the entire dot
big number means happy though
Our first pull was funny. our first spears got revivaled and killed 6 melee.
Should
do
Also the helm enchant
Comparing a melee with a ranged class...smh
did you guys going to 2 BSL or 1 BSL + companion is good too ? for M+
Latter is good yes
Had a quick question, I've read through both the guides on wowhead/icyveins and I'm still having a hard time wrapping my head around Bladestorm usage specifically, both in ST and aoe. Like where it fits into the rotation or priority list. Some of it still recommends to use it during TOM when that's not run in the recommended builds.
thank you
oce or icon trinket?
Im so confused about Neltharions trinket guys. It goes from zero procs on Gnarlroot(2:30 min fight) to like 50% uptime 8 procs on Larodar(3:45 min fight)
What does the change to lego mean now? We use amps for lego pop?
no u just sim for more
Ait
guys, if i already burned my normal fyrak save and didnt get the legen axe, i can try on hc too? or it is locked to 1 difficulty each week ?
Just run the highest difficulty you can
ye you can go on heroic too but you can't go on lfr. the higher difficulties count for the lower ones but not the other way around
kk, ty fellas
Feels like it procs all the time for me
even in single target on bosses?
i see it procs all the time in m+ but it should proc of DN TC and ww too and we use those in ST regularly.
Ashkandur, helm enchant, shadowflame embellishenents , legendary
Do You think like running neltharions trinket and sark cloak is to dangerous? Or I'll be fine doing mostly +10s
You will be fine
You could unequip your tier set and still waltz through 10s
Skill makes up for a lot
Okay cool 😁
what stat numbers are you guys running with arms right now?
40/45/30/20 seems bis
Please don’t chase arbitrary stat setups man
im still letting top gear sim take priority on the setup was just curious where everyone else was landing
Depending on what gear is available to you, you are gonna end up somewhere in DR for haste and crit and then just filling the rest
Just sim
That is always the answer
But sometimes tank chain pull an simmig for 8 min fight is weird
Do not sim random fight times unless you are looking for something very specific. Like how signet brand does in a 3 min fight vs 8

Are you fury?
That would never happen
I like 100/100/100/100 more
Hey, what can I macro Puzzle Box to?
nothing
its a 2 second channel you shouldnt be macroing that to anything
Any macro for full arms rotation?
dunno king
I think the only spec that needs a fixed amount of a certain stat is elemental with mastery isn't it?
🤮 the uwu
no?
you just do less dam
?
is it troll running puzzlebox and iridius together? my trinket luck has been kinda doodoo so far
so no raidtrinkets so far
abt as good as it sims
someone know where to get a half spark if u didnt do the quest last week?
cause ist not droping in m+
Afaik 84% mastery was needed by elemental
Hm ok
it doesn't ''need'', it's just that it's hard capped after that
even worst if your mastery is a hard cap
heyall, fresh 70 got my first 2 bullions, any pointers on what to buy first?
Well for sure considering how it works staying at the hard cap and no more is a good thing no?
ashkandur + whatever
bro are u dumb
thats like saying frost mage HAS to gear 33,3% crit
just cuz its the cap
Should I recraft / make torc or allied wrists first ?
Sim is pretty much the same only like 10 dps diff
that's not what you said earlier tho
not overcapping on a hardcap is ideal, but you dont disregard your other stats
?
I cant stand him anymore
Okay, then block him
He has always tocixity for everyone
Block
What does it help to say what you said
Maybe he realizes in his rotten brain a bit of what it means
Your response is worse than what he said


people that say dumb shit should be called out btw, only fair to stop spreading the misinformation
frost mage with crit i think
im not sure
tho
I did not say anything as a fact, I asked a question which can be answered without being a scumbag
Not really out of nowhere. The dude was constantly asking him if he is dumb.
Haven't played arms since the end of legion, mained fury since cata, came back to WoW in mid S3, loved that fury felt the same after quitting in SL, now the fury set just isn't working with my brain so arms it is
need to rewire my brain
Welcome 
so its appropriate to wish cancer back
if you dont think its really out of nowhere
you are fucked up in the head
and if you get bruised because you are called dumb
you need to go outside more
This is not out of nowhere, he's constantly a pain in the ass to everyone without any reason and if you don't notice it you're blind or he's your friend and you're just defending him
i'm constantly spitting on those mplussers
that come in with their shit take and shit build
I didn't say it. I said it wasn't out of nowhere.
and they dont wish me cancer
phil is known to be a toxic person (what are you on about lmao)
You seem to lack self awareness. Lol.
Then you're a scumbag just like him because in the real world you're not supposed to be toxic to random people
love philly
So tough, tell us more.
Go outside more cit.
Thank God we have you here.
if i dont do that at my job people can die
You certainly is the chosen one.
Do it at your job and don't bother random people on a fucking game you frustrated scumbag
You do know what a "?" Means when it is put at the end of a sentence?
you are kind of telling someone to go touch grass because you got told that you're wrong about something
Your fragile ego is showing
we love spreading misinformation on the internet
I asked a question and got a toxic response from a toxic person
I did not say anything as a fact
Hence why I said he doesn't have self awareness. I'm loving this. Lol


Fucked up in the head seems like an insult to me
wtf zhai in arms chat???
But you think you an say anything you want on a discord chat

Meemaw come put PPAWW to bed. He’s scaring the kids.
@latent moss :CAUGHT:
pretty ironic considering you wished cancer on someone 10 minutes ago
you are telling half truths, got corrected, got called dumb for doubling down and then wished death upon someone
people are hostile in the internet, nothing new, grow a thicker skin man
it's not that deep
I did not tell anything as truth
Learn to read
Learn what a question mark is
you read all of that message and decided that the biggest problem with it was the first half, not the half where you wished someone death
good one
the Drake defense
I would do it again because it's not the first time
He is always like this
you would do what again?
It's funny to see kids thinking they are cool because they are being hostile on the internet. But it is also kinda worrisome, as we are just starting to see the problems that behaviors used in such technology can bring us.
idk what you're yapping about
don't think anyone in the convo thinks they're being cool
might wanna take the boomer discourse somewhere else
I'm just saying in general. And look, you are being defensive. Without realizing you are just a perfect example of what I described.

how am I being defensive
I'm not even implicated in the argument
bro thinks he is dalai lama and can't even read between the lines
Okay. Whatever floats your boat.
Sure kiddo.
no hold on please do elaborate on that
what's up with all the redditors lately
just farming conflict
Farm dn

Wow, what's dn? BiS?
So you're saying DN are big?
dn very big yeah
Blessed

if in full bis whats the most optimal slot to put second blue silken on? Wrists?
Wrists or boots or neck
Wrists is one of the worst item that give main stats
and one of the few slots already taken by the other embellishment
#️⃣1️⃣🇮🇹👑
Allied wrists take up that slot. Assuming you have boots, cloak or shoulders probably
I would not use Shoulders for an embellishment slot
Wrists, Cloak, Neck, Belt and Boots generally are the best slots to put an embellishment on, because they're either low stat budgets, or you don't have a unique item from the raid/bullions there (except Cloak but Sark cloak not worth imo)

fmage crit is a hardcap as u get x3 crit for shatter so on st anything above is generally wasted
in aoe can go over tho
thats the only "cap" im aware of
🧢
''fmage'' which one 

it does for me
🦀
i wonder if i can say pineapple on pizza
oooofff
i'm ok with ananas pizza !
def should be censored

I like it
It's fine
Swedish people put banana on them too
So, 24 hour timeout for @gaunt owl for the pizza opinion, sounds fair?
LOL
banana pizza is ban worthy
yes
gottem
rekt
😄
Also, don't you diss Banana, curry and peanut pizza until you've tried it!
nuh uh
bro
It's not the best one I've ever eaten, but it works
I won't

so you guys ever use vers phial in m+?
when going higher
inb4 just use defensives
you cant swap phial in combat
Why wouldn't you use it? Vers helps your leggy.
we can go much higher ! 😄
wait
so u are telling me
riders of the apocalypse
doesnt work in instances
?XD
like u dont see the dk on a horse and shit
no way that makes it to live
dont think about uptime its gonna be up there anyway
just track it
sure u can make the horsemen invisible or something
nah
make them smaller or somethingi dk
why not let dk be on a horse
its not looking good chief
i had 60% last key
prolly cause we had wipes
in AOE you should have pretty much 99%
ill do a clean key and see
not dying is the most important thing as a dps
i pugged hc tindral and soaked 12 seeds so i died and ended fight top dps
30 seconds after death


i pugged fyrakk too and went afk in p1 to get my food delivery - got cr for i1 and still ended top 
great content
sure it does dam but it feels like ass to play
delivery guy rang my doorbell on a pull timer, stayed to tag the boss and came back in the last 5 seconds
big 0 parse
i didn't die somehow
Disagree personally, I like it
Nothing stopping you go fury if you prefer that more
Or join the Andy’s 😂
fun class
i did die to dreamrend but ye idk
wouldnt play it if it wasnt also fun
I like it but do feel squishy in keys as Arms. If dps is pretty equal, I'll go fury in keys, Arms for raid

I get the impression your idea of fun is numbers?
press ip more
no
then arm is a tank
arms drowns in rage now so ip rarely feels as bad as youd think
Fueled + IP is crazy tanky.
Heresy
if only we could take both
Oh wait. Sorry. fury bis. Real dps tank. My bad. 
tank dps too
Checks notes. Hit WW more.
Maybe for really low keys but not higher ones, imo. Better choices available
it was ok in S2 if you kept the buff up
but you could use brand and chain pull and get far more value on it
brand is a lot harder to keep up compared to anvil though.
with anvil u can go stretches of 30s without combat
how do we pad with legendary on first tindrall roots?
pressing cds on adds innit
if you just ava wb roar lego roots they also implode
tho on hc id just roar 2nd roots cuz everyone is dry for em
what about lfr strat
like just get feather on mythic
m tindral parses are a meme, but hc is even more cornge
secret tech!!
hc is be boostrun or get orange
make sure u take one the fliers usually take
tbh
so u fuck them
i saw some people that never took the same one when going to do the mechanics
they probably get lost going outside too
they press all their buttons at the same time
arms needs 10s to start doing damage
if u are playing blaestorm for pad
(demon build)
i guess you could play wb iftk
purple class just implosions before the roots are out and shit is immediately dead
before a global passes
oh yeah Warlock are cheating
Parsing in a meme season yolo
Maybe he means DH
Hey just dropped puzzle box but i'm a bit confuse , in what windows should we use it ? after use all CD or before ?
before
If I don’t plan on pushing crazy high keys where the kickback from CTC would kill me is it a competitive dps option? Highest I’ll probably go late in the season is 15s lol
I'm scared to ask but what's CTC?
ye if you don't plan on pushing it's good
ye it'll probs be fine if you're not pushing higher keys and dont plan on having a group you can coordiante icon/oce with
arms big weapon big damage crits smash slice kill
No that's fury ur in the wrong channel
no its arms
i see you are not yet familiar with the way of the warrior
Arms is like a tactician studying opponents weaknesses
No I zug
All I do rly
But flavor wise I think that's what they going for
arms big sword kill
Fury 2 big sword 2 less button
Who am I kidding I'm barely even a wow player I just MS and spin babbyyyy
? how where what
yet arms doesnt have a mechanic thats focused on this
anyone else feeling like shit since ip doesnt reset overpower
Very non-issue really
thats a rogue passive
Ur right I apologize
doesnt stop me feeling like shit
nah, we are swimming in rage and op resets happen a shit ton anyway
now i have no reason to press ip because im a dps and dps dont press non-dps buttons

yeah so run fueled
bsl uptime, gives you more dps
and never press defensives like a chad
my entire life has been changed
Are magora orc free or i have to do the quest for them? Cause im making a new account
Pretty sure they free with a small quest in org
U literally just talk to em
Iirc
Finally i can be xXGarroshXx
Do people actually play without cleave now?
in m+ everyone uses cleave
But the "best m+" spec in guides is without cleave
think you're looking at an old guide then
i'm looking at wowhead right now and it has the correct build with cleave
Looking at an old season build
is it worth buying ash while farming fyr'alath?
If you have basically no Fyrakk kills, buying Ashkandur is a good option yes
champion ty 🙂
However if you're near guaranteed drop (15th kill), then you can hold off on it
ive only done 1 LFR kill so far so probably best bet to get ash
Yeah you're fine to buy Ashkandur then
sweet ty 🙂
very stupid questions i have is it possible to have cast sequance macro for execute XD?
At least fury bros dont have this problem. They buy ash anyway
Possible? Yes. Recommended? Would never
i thaught that, if i end up giving up on arms later down the line and go fury atleast ive got ash anyway
I would never use castsequence for any rotation
Especially since Arms is very proc heavy, and which buttons you use in Execute changes based on your Rage
pretty pointless
you do different rotation in st and aoe
with roar bs
nvm im too tired I thought u meant wb
still pointless
Idk 2 AOE spells seems fine
damn i copypasted m+ build and i ask myself , how the hell iam suppose to find 2 more buttons for bladestorm and cleave....daamn
I meant wb and bladestorm, in aoe you do wb into bs / in st bs into wb
its never good to macro 2 GCD abilities
i remember when ppl would make macros u can literally just spam 100 times
and do a halfway decent rotation
kind of cool lol
Rouges still can apparently
next bullion idk what to get since i got weapon and ring i got sigil on heroic track and not sure if icon/chromatic is worth it since idk if i got all buffs or even 2 got kazzara trinket on hero track and last season crafted cape
there was a opener for fury in s3
idk if ppl still do that or not
If I press once it just roars if I double press I'll bladestorm after useful for when players are grouped
Then I have a separate BS button
For when I need to break cc
so you still have 2 button
I pvp so idk about optimal rotation or sims I just zug
i just picked up OCE what stat should i go for on it?
crit is best in BiS, though your current gearing might vary; or just go with w/e stat your group is missing
thank you for letting me know
Thank you @smoky kayak for everything u do for the warrior community

NO RPOBLEM FRIEND
could someone pls check my log in #449510248579858432 , I really need some help with arms
Good morning skyhold
Hey anyone know what oathstone arms wants with the ominous trinket?
NO RPOBLEM FRIEND
Sim, tho haste and vers and mast are good ones to pick
everything !
what oathstone is that
...
its almost like it just got answered

Search up the trinket on wowhead and you’ll find what the different stones do and where they are
idk if this has been (didn't find in search) or should be reported, but puzzlebox isn't being used in quick sim, the buff just appears
Its used prepull, like you would ingame
it says it right there, where it's used
literally on the picture
am I blind? I see the buff appears, but the use is not shown
because its 2 seconds before you pull
or is that how it's normally shown in these (apart from pre-buffs)
In puzzle boxs case it's not shown as a cast, because its before the fight starts, but it has a line to apply it on pull to simulate it the way you'd do it ingame
ok, understood
I thought it should be shown with the other stuff, especially considering at 0:00 it's not there then at 0:00 with stance it's there
Spaghetti code probablydoesnt have -2
SimC isnt spaghetti code
blud must have fat fingered that 1
Is it possible to cancel the axe channel guys?
Whats a solid overall nowadays ? For brh for example
yes by dying
I see I already did that so I am good
You will immediately stop chenneling
There is a way but it's probably not what you're asking for
if you overlap charge and axe it will cancel the axe
Why is that the moment I press the axe I get every random aoe spell on me 
this is the way
Yeah its annoying af
My go to is yelling "oh no!"
Shoulda just been an instant attack
or like fists of fury
I going to make a yell macro I am pressing the axe so healer can prepare XD
High risk high reward I guess
Cuz its SO POWERFUL attack you cannot move
torch is pretty high reward lol
tf it doesn't
Maybe the axe has a hidden target frick you effect . The moment you press it mobs insta cast on you hehe
What about beacon
🤷♂️
Trusting tooltips. 
Looking at our dh, his average press is over 2m
Axe just sucks then dude idk!
What’s wrong with the axe?
root sucks
The pull is worse than the root
Tbf, Havoc DHs also have a lot of crit, on top of a talent that further increases their crit damage which also applies to trinkets
just see the future
Exactly
There’s a dungeon WA for that.
Axe gets 10 percent dmg for every target marked no?
It does
So axe should outdps torch in aoe no?
tfw non timed swirly that resolves in 1 second
it was always good
Yeah I know, and now it doesn't root, and it does in fact do over 1m when you press it
i mean most of the damage from the axe comes from the dot iirc
so who rlly cares its free damage
dot keeps ring going. Ezlife
They just want us to get used to roots bc we are gonna be playing demolish guaranteed
Yeah, nice I waited 1 hour for an elite. I am in the wrong dimension thanks to a wq....
How is augury as 2nd trink incase I wanna play fury too
Augury is pretty mid for arms but really good for fury
what are the best sim settings for arms? for raid 1 boss 5 min and for m+? dungeon slice or 5 bosses 40 sec?
should i use my booleans to get ashkandur until i get the leggo? still havent got my drop
bullions*
thats the next best thing
how many kills do you have
but if you arent in a rush next week you can get lego
i would always keep 2 bullions til lego drop personally
do all 3 and look at the trends
im not sure MAYBE 10?
only issue is my warrior is barrely 470 atm so getting into even a normal is gonna be a task
you can look your armory for amount of kills
oh okay lemme check
just start a raid
a lot easier that way
Feel like it’s better to just get Ashkandur in that case
Have fun in whatever remains of the meme season
yeah w the quest that gives two this week i feel like getting ashjkandur wouldnt be bad
plus i like to play fury from time to time
You might get unlucky and it takes the full 15 or w/e kills it needs
5 LFR kills and 2 normal kills lol. didnt play this guy a lot in s3
What would be left of the season by then
Never give up hope!!!
Then pull the trigger on Wednesday
get your heroic kill in
I killed it 3 times and got the axe!! You can do it too
well by the time i complete the weekly this week ill have 5 bullions
Just get a heroic or mythic weapon drop from raid and you will be fine until it drops
also true
I was using a heroic voti mace until mine dropped this week
so ig i can snag augury or something instead
I grabbed signet first bullion
It’s opretty based but
Idk if you’re pushing hard mythic raid or not
im a m+ andy
If you’re only doing normal and heroic may not be as good cause shorter fights
Oh yeah
id value you the more AOE sentric trinket more
i was gonna pair OCE and aug
You don’t like puzzy b?
Ayyy puzzy B
hmm ig that would be better for burst windows huh
My guy puzzy B will make you do some FAT aoe burst
ill play around w it
Yeah I like it
chances are ill get both
I would say
Oce will be harder than any other trinket for u to get prob
Because everybody wants one
Half my guild grabbed oce with bullion
yeah that was my first bullion cop after scales
yeah i wanna do OCE first
I got our only drop one 😈
wait if i get the axe to drop from an awakened raid would i still need to use the bullions on it?
i think it drops at 502 but i could be so wrong
now i really wanna get it this week lol
im not sure
should still have to upgrad
I got icon 2nd pick
And I really dislike the puzzle box change
The cast is so damn long and annoying mid fight
i macro it to bladestorm
you can channel it while spinning
what oce atunement do we want again
crit?
Cant go wrong with crit
haste !
whatever your sim tells / you personnally want
you mean to avatar
prepull and on cd basically
ty
Is there a big dps increase when getting 4p? I am at 2p + 2p right now
fake
any weakaura wizards know if theres a toothless dancing to driftveil bloodlust/other aura
wait wrong chat arms doesnt know shit thats fury
actually the fury chat is more dented
is this the buff for arms from incandescent essence?

yes
hm did the trinket api for arms get updated? havent changed any gear yet augury sims awefully high all of a sudden
can probably use the Pedro dancing aura and just replace the local media that gets played
Haha
After Chipi Lust, here comes PEDRO PEDRO PEDRO Bloodlust https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGnRc7F86Q 06.05.24 Update: i
i personally use chipi lust
not a fan of the pedro one
wanted to know if there was one already because i do not want to put in the effort to change the files
doesn't look like it, unfortunately
What's a good percentage of Strength for post-Colossal ToM buff?
i wouldn't recommend worrying about this too much since ToM fluctuates quite heavily based on procs/resets, to the point of even recommending just not tracking ToM at all
it's just sort of a byproduct of what you have available to you within your CS window
So is the other talent, In For The Kill, not worth it?
Sometimes I feel like I prefer IFTK over ToM just due to the haste buff, like a mini lust or personal PI
In for the Kill is used more for Mythic+ and heavy AoE fights alongside the Warbreaker talent (AoE Colossus Smash)
Oh I see
ToM benefits more from "Blunt Instruments", since it makes your Colussus Smash window longer (and longer Colossus Smash = more time to build a larger ToM)
you don't really shoot for a specific ToM value though, it's not worth trying to game ToM's value, just follow the Arms spell priority, since you primarily want to focus on doing damage inside of your Colossus Smash window, and ToM will "be whatever it ends up, as a byproduct"
Oh okay, I feel better about it then. It just felt like ToM had to be min-maxed or smth for good dps
No worries there, the priority/rotation for Arms is inheritly set up to get you a good ToM/Anger Management value
okay, so just use MS as much as possible while using Exec on cd with Avatar and Colossus?
Within single target, Arms plays in two ways depending on boss health: Normal Rotation and Execute Rotation
For normal rotation, you're trying to maintain Rend, use major CDs, MS on cooldown, Sudden Death procs, then use Overpower to get MS back. If MS/OP are unavailable, you spend rage via WW>Tclap to get an Overpower charge back, and repeat.
For execute rotation, you're basically using major CDs, then doing MS -> At Least 2 Executes -> MS
- Mortal Strike when you have 2x "Executioner's Precision" debuffs on the target
- Execute if you have more than 40 rage
- Overpower if you have less than 40 rage
Ah okay, I see where you naturally build the ToM buff. Thanks!
absolutely! I hope this helps a bit, but if you have any other questions about Arms people here are usually quite happy to help
Man, i found a really good group
For M+
But damn, we failed a +12 Ulda because last boss is ass
We tried to stack but the damage was too much
Had to do the conventional way
30 seconds overtime

Jugg build seems far better this week for ultra high stuff
I lose AOE but my single target gets far better to compensate
Why did you have to link this? I feel obligated to install this now
It would be useful for Deios
tickled the ole ivories on yee olde wago.io
im cooking up something more stupid though
I miss my execute super saiyan WA
Never could get it to work again after it broke in SL
shut up
good times
Yeah fury is gross
well boy howdy do i have something for you

Arms is stinky
Fury wouldn’t be stinky if it wasn’t insanely giga charged with rage rn
But eh all this is changing in TWW anyways

Warrior saved in tww
depends what you mean by saved
more like The Warrior Within
my first raid on arms was going so good until fyrakk 
only cool things for TWW now are the hero tree
Gotta cleave harder

nothing else look good
i died in intermission to dot then we blew up 3 seeds and 4 people had to kill the last 8% 
Cleave looks good honestly
do we have to save cds for roots to parse on tindral?
If you wanna parse basically yeah
But good luck
Everyone else wants to blow them up too
they cant do that and have us not full of rage
i just want all purples man im not good enough to get oranges and i know that
Aug makes me go HHHNNNNNNGGG
They can
They could have just tuned down SoS
Or bake it into the button
I.e. just has a CD for arms
But hits hard
and make it the best DPR ability ?
I see no problem with pressing WW often
we already have too many to push and its not gonna stop in TWW yet
idk if i should buy Signet next week
I just raid heroics
Maybe i should buy Filial Duty
I got a Diurna already(it's 515 but it helps a lot)
has been for a while
This is my first time playing Arms in more than 10 years and my tendinitis really says thanks
logs make it look like arms is bangin this season. is that real or is it bait because other specs dont have 4 piece/bis yet
might be a really dumb question, do u guys use sweeping strikes on ST for the 2nd dreadnaught wave too?
does that even work?
real
no, doesn't work
How would you get a second wave if there's no second target to SS into?
honestly no idea how that interaction works xd
right im not too far off on 4pc uptime. crit had 80% on NO. im getting closer to 70% pressing cleave like a madman
Every man and their babies have 4pc since week 2
It’s free this season
Arms is pumping
only thing u really wanna have already is lego
or youll do hc amir even non awakened xdd
Then signet won’t be so good as most bosses falls over too fast. Im gonna go OCE as a good stat stick as many in my raid and m+ friends got it.
what do you swap out to get Jugg?
nvm found it
on wowhead!
1 point in Bloodboil or what it’s called
But if you go BIG pulls it’s more worth it with make TR go brrrrr
Tyran, most of the time is spent on bosses so will prob stick to jugg
prob a decent increase in ST dmg
never tried it, but will have a crack
guyas fresh warr here
there's like 45 buttons to press
hard 2 hard
i thought this class was zug zug
Arms? there's like 8 buttons max
I have to step out and do some errands, but I wanna fold in some Custom Options at some point
https://wago.io/ALzEmMeCS
Fury last season was 2 buttons
Press Overpower to to get rage
Spend on Mortal Strike (cleave if aoe and many mobs)
Execute when bosses or priority targets are low, but always send MS when it’s up. = win
it seems quite overwhelming at first, but try focusing on just the main rotation buttons and don't look at utility buttons yet. At its core, arms uses about 4-5 major CDs and about 6 rotation buttons
okay thanks
im yoinking that ty Mr Hroth
It was definitely 5 buttons at least
thanks as well im learning here
Ya’ll acting like removing RB made it less buttons when you literally added slam to replace RB
right now it only happens if you're targeting a boss and you get Lust+PI during execute phase, but ehhh good enough for now
Cope
ill just adjust it to be more prominent
Pog, what’re the odds that you make one for execute phase?
It’s not cope at all lmao
BT/BB, slam, WW, execute, ramp, TR/Spear, OF
fury is the same amount of buttons in annihilator or in raging blow
Real
Just turn off some triggers and you’re golden
Acting like it’s not is cope
CDs not counting
Slam doesn’t count
WW stacks for AOE barely counts
BT+Rampage macro was possible
BT+ramp macro was bad
You didn’t want to do that
I have a sword ring one that just makes a single sound when the 35% threshold is breached too, that one is nice on the brain
This is some cooked take lmao
As if you didn’t use WW in single target
Actually nevermind reading this take I now understand why you wouldn’t have liked S3 fury, probably had giga downtime in your rotation because you didn’t press buttons

Only if you used it emporered bloodbaths outside enrage? I manage to get 99 parses with it on heroic just chilling and watching Netflix.
not the flex you think it is
Do I have to hit slam or can I hit thunderclap instead
6’9” here. So mega sigma?
dated girls taller than you ☕️
anything over 6’6 would be uncomfortable
okay?
For a short king yeah
nice man i prefer shorter girls anyways



