you still gotta spend like a maniac
#arms
teal fossil
last skiff
how come augury trinket isnt that good on arms?:S
teal fossil
AM def contributes more to the flat damage profile
boreal quartz
how come augury trinket isnt that good on arms?:S
Tier is free crit
teal fossil
40% uptime on CS
boreal quartz
So more crit is a bit zz
last skiff
fair, just saw a ret have it as second highest damage so wanted to look into it:P
slow saddle
i mean im very dissatisfied with the rage changes to tww so far
teal fossil
fair, just saw a ret have it as second highest damage so wanted to look into it:...
its not just free crit, since ret has like 40% wings uptime
and thats 20% crit
its just a mix of a lot of things
frigid lava
what do u mean no tom and am at the same time?
teal fossil
aug is def a weird trinket
boreal quartz
fair, just saw a ret have it as second highest damage so wanted to look into it:...
If augury is ur 2nd highest ur doing zdps
teal fossil
what do u mean no tom and am at the same time?
both TOM and AM contributes to the fast rage spend and flat damage profile
and they build off of each other
so one of those needs to go if arms wants to be more bursty
slow saddle
i want am
last skiff
thanks for the respons on the augury:)
quaint otter
fossil thistle
If augury is ur 2nd highest ur doing zdps
Once and only once, I had augury do like 16% of my damage on a boss. Felt like a ret Paladin for a bit ngl
gray steeple
I haven’t simmed it but I wonder if Augury and Madness of the Betrayer would be a secret tech combo. Have a hero track Madness from TWing a few weeks back.
I’ll sim that tonight after work
fossil thistle
Madness probably okay for fury?
jovial marsh
will be at work all day so can't easily check this. But the crit aura should effect everything. The damage auras have a whitelist, so only effect those listed. You should see fyralath match crit rate with other abilities, which will all be around 8% above your character sheet crit rates (or higher of course). I glanced through a few logs and that does look to be the case.
gaunt owl
But sim dont seem to reflect this somehow
jovial marsh
yeah it doesn't seem to apply it hmm
I'll have to look at that this evening
happens on all items it seems
broodkeeper's blaze is the same
gray steeple
its just a crit stat stick
It is a crit stack. But Augury procs off crits. Augury is bis for fury but I still wonder how a heavy crit/haste build does for arms
thick kelp
time to unsandbagg the spec
stop bro we are already too close to devastations
teal fossil
It is a crit stack. But Augury procs off crits. Augury is bis for fury but I sti...
yes i know what augury does, augury synergizes with small hits, not really crit
its okay with crit but not insane
boreal quartz
Archon very relevant yes
teal fossil
certainly not worth getting a worse stat
jovial marsh
Yeah, I'll have to dig in and find out why it doesn't look like it's applying tonight, plus go do a long test to confirm behavior
novel hollow
Raidbots also says raid horn bis trinket
opaque citrus
Archon very relevant yes
Not awful site at all
gaunt owl
stop bro we are already too close to devastations
worst part is, we can optimize the lego differently
halcyon breach
oh no
gaunt owl
Arma is on the case
wooden tide
would yall just go fury on tindral or wb and pray
jovial marsh
I'll be on the case in around 12 hours after I am home and can finally dig in and find out wtf is going on here 😄
opaque citrus
Lets talk about raid horn
Let’s talk about the 1979 Iranian revolution and it’s impact on the latter portion of the Cold War
sacred zodiac
Raidbots also says raid horn bis trinket
do you wanna drop the sim or continue spreading misinformation
sacred zodiac
i did
novel hollow
U simmed wrong
sacred zodiac
now link the sim that says that
boreal quartz
ya sponjie
sacred zodiac
are you ready to be obliterated
halcyon breach
Hastecake what are your thoughts on blended chicken breasts?
opaque citrus
Hastecake what are your thoughts on blended chicken breasts?
I miss him bro
novel hollow
Its a tradition for families to gather together and blend chicken breast in my country
On christmas
quasi torrent
REAL?
quasi torrent
@sacred zodiac
gaunt owl
unseasoned cook master
wintry scroll
Do we have masterycake as well ? I’d like to meet one
charred brook
i just got my 535 leggo and it was a 70k dps increase from my 522 weapon lol
that is insane
wintry scroll
Just run hero 14 times like most of us did
proper estuary
yes but it take 10 weeks now
lilac fossil
do we just spam the sht out of exe in exe phase?
daring heron
time to unsandbagg the spec
oh no
proper estuary
how long does it take to finish the legy quest if I will get it ?
thick kelp
gray steeple
how long does it take to finish the legy quest if I will get it ?
About a day
novel hollow
Longest grind is superbloom shit
Everything else is cheeseable
With proving grounds
U reset 5min cd
Follower dungeon to outheal damage
proper estuary
yea hard
frigid lava
i just got my 535 leggo and it was a 70k dps increase from my 522 weapon lol
That's cray.... i feel so behind and cheated 😦
frigid lava
I feel like doing everything right... yet somewhat behind dps
charred brook
i was always behind people on every pull and they just had 5m free damage
literally lol
proper estuary
That's cray.... i feel so behind and cheated 😦
same have 515 m0 dawn weapon
novel hollow
I feel like doing everything right... yet somewhat behind dps
Different buffs / different duration kills
M+ dogshit tank pulls
Etc etc
half tapir
How does puzzle box sim lower dmg both ST and dungeon slice for me? with fragment and rumbling ruby currently for keys.. Thats sim bait right?
novel hollow
Rumbling does big d damage as far as ive seen
half tapir
It just did 1.2% in academy for me
tired sinew
hello. is jugg still worth playing with S4 4p in m+
half tapir
I was thinking having fragment and puzzle box to have a big trinket for every avatar could be pretty strong no?
frigid lava
I still have jugg for raid.
thick kelp
40/40/40/20 ruined gg
frigid lava
execute phase stonk
frigid lava
why is mine so low
novel hollow
Nah haste 37 actually
proper estuary
did u craft the mastery embelishment =?
half tapir
That would be Ashkandur if you are not gonna farm leggo
frigid lava
your helm does fire dmg
sly quail
oh righht
frigid lava
not very effective... but there is a little
half tapir
the back sims pretty high too
cunning heart
why does whispering incarnate icon sim higher than OCE for me? cause of crit?
half tapir
raidbots might be picking all stats buff for OCE
sly quail
so im fine with buying the ring?
half tapir
instead of the one you would take
proper estuary
Next week u can buy 3 items so
frigid lava
3rd or three?
frigid lava
Next week u can buy 3 items so
what do u mean
timber lynx
you can get your third bullion item next week
sly quail
ty for the info 🙂
west tusk
i think my haste to high my sim telling me to get more vers
half tapir
how about more crit
west tusk
crit/vers neck is biggest upgrade
frigid lava
gotta keep the 4set buff man
proper estuary
without lego
proper estuary
yes
timber lynx
i sim at like 400k and im only 509
frigid lava
fuck
proper estuary
Im 512 with very solid stats
somber lance
i sim at like 400k and im only 509
cap
frigid lava
just quick patchwerk sim?
somber lance
big big cap
timber lynx
Swear 2 god
somber lance
link sim then
proper estuary
sim
boreal quartz
bros simming 2 mins 
timber lynx
Im at work 
somber lance
of course
novel hollow
Diurna ring +11k dps
proper estuary
he is siming boss fight in 35% Phase
somber lance
400k is like 522 ilvl
boreal quartz
and why do u have zero gear 
mild hound
💀
elfin sage
What 2. trinket could you recommend for m+ when playing with ashkandar + puzzlebox?
plush belfry
my instinct is icon
half tapir
I swear guys fragment + puzzlebox is a sleeper combo
plush belfry
unless you can guarantee oce buffs
cant think of anything worse than irideus + puzzle
teal fossil
outside of int trinkets
cold garnet
call to chaos and boon?
novel hollow
I swear guys fragment + puzzlebox is a sleeper combo
Oce + icon
novel hollow
Sleeper build
cold garnet
5% increase dmg taken, then locked in place
teal fossil
just dont proc it before booning
timber lynx
True
cold garnet
proc mid boon, i’ll never financially recover from this
plush belfry
leggo followed immediately by boon >>>>>>>
elfin sage
Is it hard to get leggo?
teal fossil
not easy no
timber lynx
To guarantee the drop you’d have to kill heroic fyrakk 15 times or something
elfin sage
Ok I guess then I'll not bother about it then and stick with ashkandur 😄
left talon
no leggo copers unite
cold garnet
any amount of kills up to 15 but never more 🙂
charred brook
you should still try
i got it in 3 weeks
i just started as season 4 came out
and got mine tuesday
timber lynx
Yeah definitely still try if you plan on maining a two hander spec
Its absolutely worth it
timber lynx
i got it in 3 weeks
Same 😎
cold garnet
the animation alone is worth it
cursive steeple
I got it on my alt paladin on its 2nd full heroic clear, I was planning to play holy because it was already late into s3. Why shouldn’t it also be you next reset?
worthy mortar
guys is cataclysmic signet worth in m+ most playing? i gotta spend my 2nd bulion i am playting mostly m+
stiff wedge
It can be, not where I’d spend mine for m+ though
worthy mortar
i see, maybe ring is better option seal?
stiff wedge
You have legendary?
worthy mortar
yea
stiff wedge
Probly. The ring is all upside
worthy mortar
got it, ty
cursive steeple
Ring is not a wrong choice now
worthy mortar
i saw versa
thats why i was like hmm maybe not best atm
but prob proc is too strong
i guess 😄
stiff wedge
From my sims it was big win with ring
minor crater
Versa is goat tho
worthy mortar
even on arms 😮
stiff wedge
I’ll Probly pick up Nelth call to chaos with 3rd bullion and rock that with puzzlebox
worthy mortar
u are arms too right'?
worthy mortar
i see
minor crater
Unless you are already above 20% versa i would not put items with versa away
stiff wedge
Mind you I wasn’t doing anything crazy high. 22s or so
worthy mortar
i have 13% atm versa but only 493
minor crater
i have 13% atm versa but only 493
at 493 there is no need to care since you will replace everything all the time anyways
worthy mortar
okey, ty 🙂 i guess il buy ring then
tribal sedge
At the opening of our rotation do we charge, rend, legendary or charge, MS, legendary or am I just completely off all together? And do we hold our roar for TOM buff window?
fossil thistle
Charge MS legendary is what I’ve been doing since I got it
sacred zodiac
iirc the apl just does charge legendary and then cd dump
hazy flower
as long as your first few buttons arent 100% random
and its like cs lego roar or ms in whatever order
its w.e
fossil thistle
as long as your first few buttons arent 100% random
Charge> spell reflect > intimidating shout> shockwave >legendary
hazy flower
sr is not random
fossil thistle
and its like cs lego roar or ms in whatever order
Would never CS before legendary it’s a waste
hazy flower
I mean obviously xd
fossil thistle
hazy flower
It just doesnt matter if you do rend tclap ms cs or whatever on the opener
sacred zodiac
has arma taken a look at legendary crit w/ tier yet
i only passingly read that convo
fossil thistle
Does a little bit, you should legendary before using CDs not during, ideally you should charge MS legendary, or just charge legendary
Most top parses I saw last season was MS->Legendary
nocturne fulcrum
Is it worth to remove uproar for a second point into cruel strikes? according simc its' 4k increase in dungeon slice
tribal sedge
Do you guys rip roar with all cds or wait for the ToM buffs?
sacred zodiac
in st you can just throw it near on cd iirc
fossil thistle
Yea
sacred zodiac
most of the damage is in the dot and you dont really care if its in cs or tom
tribal sedge
Oh I thought you had to do it in the tom buff
fossil thistle
It’s negligible really, I bet it’s sub 0.2% difference 🤷🏻♂️
Nah it should be lined up with avatar iirc and waiting for ToM would make you hold CDs
ruby dagger
for fyralath is it still the same that if i do heroic, that i dont get another chance at normal raid?
fossil thistle
@smoky kayak we need your wisdom O great warrior.
fossil thistle
for fyralath is it still the same that if i do heroic, that i dont get another c...
Heroic will roll normal and lfr chances as well
ruby dagger
and normal rolls for lfr?
fossil thistle
Yes
Just kill fyrakk on the highest difficulty you can weekly and you’re fine
Clearing heroic for lesser embers adds a small % too 🤷🏻♂️
muted sigil
I knew someone that would run LFR, normal and heroic because they thought you had more chances then just doing heroic. But I think it equals out the same right?
regal mica
need to craft smth
gray steeple
went with both cant decide
You can be furry and run arms. Less sweaty than fury imo
gray steeple
I knew someone that would run LFR, normal and heroic because they thought you ha...
They were dumb.
regal mica
what do you mean less sweaty?
hazy flower
fury is more fast paced
timber lynx
your pits are going to be moist after a key playing fury is what he means
regal mica
yea but my team need me to bang the uldum totem
gray steeple
what do you mean less sweaty?
Swinging two swords while being furry. That was your question.
regal mica
which one would do better on prio target?
timber lynx
I dont play fury really but im almost positive its arms
regal mica
i guess if u get to 2x exe atleast
timber lynx
you should play what you enjoy though theyre both fine
gray steeple
Arms and juggernaut build for prio target.
Fury (1 R) for Aoe
regal mica
i enjoy both :<
hazy flower
p sure its whatever till giga high
gray steeple
Furry if that’s your kink
regal mica
we 14s curr
hazy flower
ye just play what you like
honestly
if you really wanna swap for specific keys
arms for aa/bh (can swap to fury after 2nd boss I guess) and rest fury
regal mica
arms for hol i guess
regal mica
execute boss tho
hazy flower
I mean sure arms is better for the first part I cant deny that but later its kinda whatever
either way both specs are good enough to swap if you want to play other one
gray steeple
I doubt you want to leave the instance, change specs and gear and come back in.
If anything, maybe go juggernaut Arms for tyr weeks and fury for fort weeks.
If fury gets another adjustment upward, could be fury for keys, arms for raids
hazy flower
I doubt you want to leave the instance, change specs and gear and come back in. ...
its 15 seconds
timber lynx
Real kings play arms and never swap
hazy flower
in bh
timber lynx
fossil thistle
Arms even if fury gets a 10% buff
hazy flower
you portal out after rp on 2nd boss
fossil thistle
Real kings play arms and never swap
Facts
timber lynx
once you see that ms hit for a mil you’ll never go back
regal mica
its hard to tell now what to actually play bcs everyone is just testing furry
timber lynx
astral yarrow
Cause fury just got “try playing this” buffs
regal mica
i went as well with fury last few keys wouldnt tell doing more dmg, especially academy with capped
hazy flower
lasher damage
is fake damage
it does literally nothing to speed up your key
its fun to blast there in 9's or whatever weekly are you doing
but if you want to time the key the real damage is in the 3 big mobs + skitterflies
timber lynx
Troar on that pull 
lone imp
roar and deep wounds
frigid lava
Did spiteful get buffed. fuckers hit hard
lone imp
Stormbolt them little fuckers
lost forum
I'm sure I'm going to get grief here...but I have questions on trinkets. I hear Cat is kind of crap, and OCE is only good if a group has them. My trinkets are 476, if I'm spending bullion on one..which should I get for both m+ and raiding?
crimson tree
Did WoWAnalyzer get updated?
timber lynx
Oce even with no buffs still simmed pretty big for me and its a really solid trinket in raid and m+
gray steeple
Did WoWAnalyzer get updated?
Not since Mr Robot was a thing afaik
astral yarrow
I think it was updated at one point in SL no? Hasn’t been since Nathria I think
gray steeple
I'm sure I'm going to get grief here...but I have questions on trinkets. I hear ...
Cata is BIS but it needs time to stack up. That can be difficult in some keys. Did you read the gear/trinkets post from the guides on recommendations?
crimson tree
Looked like it had a new uh, overview
timber lynx
It was updated for rogues early dragonflight but i havent used it since season 1
so im not sure at all
knotty creek
How do you sim the different runes to know which one is the best to use
dire hinge
Did WoWAnalyzer get updated?
no, unfortunately WoWanalyzer hasn't been updated for arms in a long time. You can use it to analyze some things (like deaths), but its rotational advice is woefully out of date
crimson tree
no, unfortunately WoWanalyzer hasn't been updated for arms in a long time. You c...
Ah, good intel. Thank you
knotty creek
I am using haste rn
dire hinge
absolutely, and it's all volunteer
last wowanalyzer update looks to have happened almost a year ago for arms, for context
crimson tree
Is it technically challenging or just a time sink?
dire hinge
both
crimson tree
seems easy
teal fossil
you have to learn wclogs language first
then you can start scripting for wowanalyzer
crimson tree
is it lua?
bold jolt
During execute if you have the rage would you do a 3rd or 4th execute before MS? Or do overpower after 2 executes everytime regardless
dire hinge
it's a SQL-like language iirc
charred brook
During execute if you have the rage would you do a 3rd or 4th execute before MS?...
3 global between MS
crimson tree
Interesting
charred brook
So if you have enough rage 3x execute is best
If not enough rage, 2x execute and 1 ability
bold jolt
Thx
charred brook
Which is often overpower, or sometimes CS
Also keeps you from overcapping if you do 3x rage if you’re generating a ton
3x execute I mean
dire hinge
unless MS resets itself via Exhilarating Blows*
Where you can ms - exe - exe - ms, as long as you have the rage to do so
gilded kraken
at which point is chromatic essence worth it over chaos for m+?
teal fossil
when you got goons using it
charred brook
I like the EB playstyle it flows so good sometimes
halcyon breach
My entire guild just DC'd at 10% on HC Smolderon
And I had 5 MS resets on pull with lust
gray steeple
at which point is chromatic essence worth it over chaos for m+?
Sim the number of people with it and you’ll see
charred brook
Oh no lmao
halcyon breach
despair
charred brook
I remember my dream run
crimson tree
Big dam
bold jolt
I shit myself if i get 3 in a row
charred brook
It’s not often but when it happens you love it
frigid lava
I've seen like x5 in a row... it happens
fossil thistle
MS resets? Never heard of her 🥲🫠
halcyon breach
It's ok we went again and I got 4 resets instead
charred brook
Mfw I hold back the entire raid because I never progged amirdrassil and I fuck up everything on mythic smoldie 10 pulls in a row
Swearing on everything I can’t see the tornado lines because I’m colorblind then I turn stream on and they all make fun of me cause they are clear as day lmao
dire hinge
i think the most i had was 5 into a Battlelord Reset into another EB reset so it was like a "dirty" 7
on sennarth pull with big spider 
lost forum
During execute phase, does it make sense to ex,op,ex, op,ms? Thought is that op buffs ms? Or am I just stupid?
limber bear
i liked it, so i put a ring on it
sudden crest
how can i sim on what slot the crafted will be better? idk how to use that lol
fossil thistle
how can i sim on what slot the crafted will be better? idk how to use that lol
You can add crafted pieces or use gearsets
gray steeple
how can i sim on what slot the crafted will be better? idk how to use that lol
Gear compare. It’s now baked into top gear sims
dire hinge
During execute phase, does it make sense to ex,op,ex, op,ms? Thought is that op ...
Don't be mean to yourself 🤎
The goal is to use Mortal Strike as long as it has 2 of the Execute debuffs empowering it (Executioner's Precision), while Overpower is considered "optional".
In practice, this means MS -> 2-3 Spells -> MS
You want two of those spells in between MS to be Execute, with optionally a third Execute or an Overpower in there as filler. To determine this:
- Execute if you're over 40 rage
- Overpower if you're under 40 rage
- MS as soon as you have 2x stacks of Executioner's Precision applied to the target
short spear
ahhhh
i failed my first 13 brackenhide because a ranged was standing in that stupid spot they stand in to never have to move and he died during the totem phase
fossil thistle
If you struggle with paying attention to your rage and dumping too much you can just do 2ex 1op every time 🤷🏻♂️
lost forum
Don't be mean to yourself 🤎
The goal is to use Mortal Strike as long as it has...
So does ex prec Trump the op buff on ms?
dire hinge
it does yes
during execute phase, Overpower's buff (Martial Prowess) is considered optional, or just "sugar on top"
lost forum
K, that makes sense. I rather enjoy seeing the 600k ms crits.
dire hinge
for sure, but you'll have more overall throughput by casting MS more frequently, than loading up every MS with full buffs
snow meadow
Execute's buff is 35% vs OP's 30% to MS if I read the tooltips right
dire hinge
^ exactly yes
naive sage
I want to make a weakaura that plays a sound when exhilarating blows procs, any suggestions?
I think that the game doesn't count it as an aura
Or maybe I'm just dumb and can't do it
naive sage
it's a buff you get, with an ID of `383226`
I tried to put it as a trigger but isn't working
dire hinge
alternatively, you can also change your MS weakaura and say "if talent known Exhilirating Blows" and "On Cooldown / Insufficient Resources = false" then you just glow MS
sudden crest
Gear compare. It’s now baked into top gear sims
but how i compared if xx enhancement is better than xy?
lost kernel
its known bug when legendary doesnt do any damage during charge and press?
dire hinge
yes, same with Zaqauli Grapnel
timber lynx
You have to wait to press the leggo when charging
lost kernel
damn.
timber lynx
If you press it right as the charge is ending itll eat the leggo cd
naive sage
alternatively, you can also change your MS weakaura and say "if talent known Exh...
I just want to make a KACHING sound it's just for the lulz
dire hinge
- it cancels lego
- you wont have any damage done to your target yet if you lego mid-charge, so always let charge hit your target to apply Fyralath dot first
dire hinge
I just want to make a KACHING sound it's just for the lulz
hmm, i see it tracked in WCL but yeah i dont see it listed in-game as a buff on my character
snow meadow
I normally charge > TC > Fyralath which helps me prevent myself from eating it.
naive sage
Whatever it was just to have a laugh in raid
Maybe if there's a battlelord weakaura, it could be tuned to work with EB instead
worldly kernel
Like the crafted?
left talon
Yea
worldly kernel
You can remove the patch on the legs when you go to best gear selection
It’s like remove embellishment or something
brave garnet
why shouldn't I craft shadowflame on my legs? ilvl? +1500 dps right now if I do crafted legs & catalyst chest vs boots
left talon
why shouldn't I craft shadowflame on my legs? ilvl? +1500 dps right now if I do ...
You want to embellish low stat budget slots
Afaik
lucid lotus
Double BSL is stackeable? my mastery does not increase 😦
timber lynx
there are better embellishments than Shadowflame also
timber lynx
Double BSL is stackeable? my mastery does not increase 😦
Try going under 90% hp or reequipping them
theres a bug with double bsl
lucid lotus
oooh thanks ^^
queen beacon
hey guys, with which fightstyle you sim m+ in raidbots?
gray steeple
why shouldn't I craft shadowflame on my legs? ilvl? +1500 dps right now if I do ...
Gotta think ahead for crafted items. Legs might be better now but there is always a chance at higher ilvl legs. That means more stats. That’s why crafted items normally go in the lower stats slots.
gaunt owl
@smoky kayak have you seen @halcyon breach curse ?
fathom hedge
I'm surprised we don't use Exhilarating blows. Seems like more MS = good.
flat vine
I'm surprised we don't use Exhilarating blows. Seems like more MS = good.
You can
brave garnet
does the rank of the armor patch affect the embellishment, or just the recipe difficulty?
halcyon breach
does the rank of the armor patch affect the embellishment, or just the recipe di...
Only difficulty
brave garnet
i just realized my boots are R2 and my pants are R3
halcyon breach
Performance remains unchanged
sacred zodiac
@halcyon breach
brave garnet
much appreciated
halcyon breach
@sacred zodiac
gray steeple
Engineering items do change with rank. Chance of failure increased with lower ranks.
smoky kayak
<@61282228017041408> have you seen <@102464908976730112> curse ?
what, the fyr'alath shit? I know all about it
dire hinge
I'm surprised we don't use Exhilarating blows. Seems like more MS = good.
it performs about the same as a point in Bloodborne, with EB having some higher highs and potential lows (RNG based), but you can play it by all means, it's perfectly fine
bleak iris
Hi i just got my fyralath this week and when i completed the quest i got the season 3 ilvl is that normal ?
dire hinge
in single target*
gaunt owl
what, the fyr'alath shit? I know all about it
yes this cursed knowledge
dire hinge
Hi i just got my fyralath this week and when i completed the quest i got the sea...
yes, you'll need to spend 2 bullion items to buy an item to turn it into Season 4's 502 version
swift pulsar
Hi i just got my fyralath this week and when i completed the quest i got the sea...
yup, normal. you need to buy the piece to upgrade it to 502
fathom hedge
it performs about the same as a point in Bloodborne, with EB having some higher ...
Also is Storm of swords really that good? I was thinking about moving that into Exhilarating blows. No CD on WW means you can make sure you do 2 or 3 during CS. Also leaves you more rage for MS?
smoky kayak
Also is Storm of swords really that good? I was thinking about moving that into ...
takes 2-3 times as many GCDs though, the point of SoS is to compress your damage/rage spending into one GCD
bleak iris
oh ok thank you guys i thought if u get new one because it shows another ilvl 500
fathom hedge
Hi i just got my fyralath this week and when i completed the quest i got the sea...
Yes you use two Antique Bronze Bullions to buy an item to increase it to S4 ilvl and track
bleak iris
nice thank you
fathom hedge
takes 2-3 times as many GCDs though, the point of SoS is to compress your damage...
That makes sense.
swift pulsar
is there a buff name for the 4pc proc?
quartz cedar
i played Arms for the first time in raid last night, after switching from Fury. Using juggernaut in the ST build, is execute phase really spam execute the entire time? It was ridiculous how much damage i was putting out.
also, GOOD MORNING SKYHOLD!
fathom hedge
i played Arms for the first time in raid last night, after switching from Fury. ...
Exe, Exe, Exe, MS = Ideal.
dire hinge
gm ❤️
fathom hedge
Throw in OP if you need rage.
dire hinge
i played Arms for the first time in raid last night, after switching from Fury. ...
this may help!
#arms message
swift pulsar
is there a buff name for the 4pc proc?
nm I found it.
quartz cedar
this may help!
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/14889872080358604...
thank you sir
dire hinge
of course! Welcome to arms!
quartz cedar
that said, Arms put me on top of the DPS chart last night. My former fury guildmate was #2, using his S3 4piece instead of S4
marsh axle
arms stronk, execute phase go BRRRR
dire hinge
do you have it macro'd into something else?
sacred zodiac
you cast roar randomly while its on cd?
dire hinge
i'd check your spells and bindings and make sure it's not on a hidden actionbar or something with an overlapping keybind
or hidden in a macro
rough pewter
yes i mean, im not certain that is thunderous roar
sometimes a dragon head appears
like with TR
and yea
sacred zodiac
check your trinkets or macros
crimson tree
... is it a trinket passive?
rough pewter
check your trinkets or macros
i didnt inserted tr in any macro
wicked aurora
is it on a modifier?
rough pewter
+its on cd and i still see this effect sometimes
hexed hill
Recomended trinkets to buy from bullions?
wicked aurora
like is it shift+something?
hexed hill
right now got puzzel and Idol of tram for m+
dire hinge
Recomended trinkets to buy from bullions?
you can find that information here:
#arms message
sacred zodiac
Recomended trinkets to buy from bullions?
check the pins or guides or #updates-midnight there is a lot of info about this out there
hexed hill
soz
dire hinge
you're fine!
sacred zodiac
i didnt inserted tr in any macro
im not talking about tr if its happening outside of roar cd
rough pewter
oh then sorry
sacred zodiac
you might have a toy macro'd or once again its probably one of your trinkets
rough pewter
oh okey i check it thank you
wispy tiger
aye how many sparks should we have right now?
dire hinge
2 full sparks this week
wispy tiger
gotcha ty
astral yarrow
what did i miss
slender sonnet
only 991k MS 
astral yarrow
man is raiding
sacred zodiac
syi i will rend and cleave you
slender sonnet
rend and cleave me irl
manic stirrup
?
gaunt owl
i approve
minor gust
Council does make me wanna rend and cleave myself yes
smoky kayak
its already way too cursed
not nearly as cursed as Rogues, they have a new bug every other week
opaque citrus
not nearly as cursed as Rogues, they have a new bug every other week
May I introduce you to monks
smoky kayak
Monks have been cursed since the get go
crimson tree
why did brewmaster get nerfed
-5% aura nerf for asking
misty iron
anyone else not getting the spark catchup?
half vine
Brew hot nerfed because of 1 streamer showing SSs of him doing 400k DPS consistently
latent moss
equinox?
gaunt owl
they got a bit more tankiness for that one too
latent moss
thats like nerfing assa rogue cause of zerocool
half vine
Yeah equinox
timber lynx
Yeah i dont doubt it
timber lynx
Dont get me started
timber lynx
Im playing arms warrior for a reason
I played assa all season 1-3
got the leggo and said bye bye
timber lynx
Nah same
latent moss
but because it gets boring
timber lynx
its more fun than it ever has in my opinion but im just not super into it either way
opaque citrus
why did brewmaster get nerfed
Idk but fuck em I still ball
timber lynx
Oh its over
latent moss
id rather unplug my pc
latent moss
dying as kir
timber lynx
is just like might as well although f4
latent moss
is the worst thing ever
worldly kernel
You lose pretty much all that momentum for damage
timber lynx
LNAO
gloomy summit
Key logs
timber lynx
its so bad
gloomy summit
Seek Jesus
latent moss
takes like 10 years to get back
but if u stay alive all the time its soooo good
having cds every pack
timber lynx
Yeah it is for sure
worldly kernel
Dude
latent moss
perma in adrenaline rush
worldly kernel
The slands kyrian neck was so good
worldly kernel
You had CDs EVERY pull
hazy flower
what for
hazy flower
I mean mage is fun but
worldly kernel
Gotta keep it fresh
hazy flower
tbf kinda sadge we started playing together a week before season ended
last season
we could prob brute force 3.9
latent moss
3.9 was ez for u
latent moss
tbf keys on that key level are all brute forced
might do a cheeky arcane
jk
what does arcane even do
hazy flower
big dam
crisp crane
raidbuffed .. erm my char is still HASTE thirsty 
latent moss
u have 17 cds
hazy flower
all mage specs have good prio anyway
latent moss
different rotation
hazy flower
fire just does it the best
latent moss
if u have x y u do z rotation
hazy flower
prio with cleave
latent moss
i mean
fire will never do good overals
but the prio is crazy
on top of arcane intellect survivability utility
crimson tree
Im too stupid to play fire
manic stirrup
Idk but fuck em I still ball
losing to 7 people L ratio
opaque citrus
losing to 7 people L ratio
Demon hunters aren’t people
crimson tree
Warlock #1 always a good spec
hazy flower
if mage didnt buff other specs
destro would be instead of magus
but mage buffs healer aug and sp
manic stirrup
stack
raven ivy
Can we ban fire mage players
dull siren
manic stirrup
baby dam
pure otter
feel like im doing around 350ishk a key if i dont die 2 stuff, wonder what im doing wrong compared 2 critcake that lets em go brazy ink eyz
dire hinge
a good tank doing massive pulls is not-insignificant amount of it
raven ivy
a good tank doing massive pulls is not-insignificant amount of it
Me watching my anvil stacks fall off because my tank is scratching his nose for 30 seconds instead of pulling next pack
hazy flower
hard to tell without logs, vods are usually the best for keys
- in general your dps will vary depends on your group
pure otter
yeah need to just vod and run it back
dire hinge
i did two AA keys yesterday, one was 470k overall, the other was 535k, only difference felt like tank pull size
hazy flower
it depends on the comp + on how good other players are too
raven ivy
Desperately finding critters to keep my stack up 😦
dire hinge
and if you can kill a pack while you're near the peak of your current burst
since overalls are determined by when combat ends, averaged across all pulls
pure otter
true
i also just hate how arms plays right now, feels like we have a shit ton of keybinds that dont really interact with each other
expect for op
halcyon breach
i did that twice yesterday
I went down with both Buch and Schmidt
pure otter
Op interacts with ms cleave, and some extend exe, but bs roar, avatar, ww, tclap, starts feeling like cd vomit
halcyon breach
So at least it wasn't alone
astral yarrow
Was buch on duck duty
raven ivy
Day 40 of asking @halcyon breach to boost me through mythic fyrrakk
halcyon breach
Was buch on duck duty
No we just got frontalled because Schmidt didn't expect a frontal that fast, after Urctos got quacked
halcyon breach
Day 40 of asking <@102464908976730112> to boost me through mythic fyrrakk
Sorry Afro, I'm not even in for Fyrakk myself..
raven ivy
What the FUCK
astral yarrow
Yeah we had weird spell queue as well
halcyon breach
It's okay I banged out an okay Smolderon parse
So the night is saved
And got like 7 ilvl today
daring heron
how did you do on smoldy
daring heron
thats pretty sick
halcyon breach
A bit of a scuffy pull
daring heron
ours was very scuffed
halcyon breach
I also didn't stand in any intermission rings
astral yarrow
I giga scuffed our smolderon and got rank 1 on tswift
thick kelp
good night despairge
midnight mural
had 4x 100 after raid last night. Today after logs done (NA reset i guess?) i had no more hundies :<
dire hinge
i think you're cool 
tough steppe
My best parse was in Fyrakk lmao
halcyon breach
Thank you Hrothmar
tough steppe
80% still
halcyon breach
Can always count on you 
midnight mural
I'm just looking forward to fyrakk on monday now. Looking forward to seeing him go below 35%.. 😄
manic stirrup
i feel like if u are a gamba man, it can be turbo
halcyon breach
did u guys go spear on smoldy
No I just went Roar
tough steppe
did u guys go spear on smoldy
Spear feels like a bait imo for Arms in general
halcyon breach
soft
Also tbf we had balls go in basically insta
So I would've gotten destroyed by the intermission rings
tough steppe
I just don't know how to do better 
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KhCaWmptwcQqgv7B#fight=47&type=damage-done
If someone can check my log and give me advices, i would really appreciate
manic stirrup
Spear feels like a bait imo for Arms in general
its not good on arms the only reason i hust think it has the potential to be better
for smolderon esclusively
tough steppe
That might help me aswell in keys
wary needle
i tried to google a tiny bit but also search here for a bit
did nayone see if the drop rate is affected by awakened, and if you can do the non-awakened version and still roll same odds for legendary?
manic stirrup
just because damage amp crit amp fuck big
but you have to get the crits at the right times
quasi mica
Guys, what should i get with bullions if i dont have legendary?
wary needle
sim it
tough steppe
Ashkandur
wary needle
droptimizer is real good
tough steppe
But sim it
gaunt owl
Spear is absolute bait
hazy flower
the fact its pretty damn close for fury spear vs roar
and you have 2 talents buffing roar as arms
tough steppe
btw, how bad is Ashes of Embersoul?
Considering we lose a ton of haste for 60 seconds
hazy flower
wasnt it pretty good @gaunt owl
but idk it didnt scale that well and it wasnt the best in s3 when it was better
manic stirrup
Just get 4 EB resets inside of Spear and have them all crit
oh dude i didnt even try eb in season 3
halcyon breach
I've been running EB all of Aberrus and Amirdrassil
hazy flower
eb was good on smoldy
tough steppe
what is EB
hazy flower
but the fact bb takes over with any extra target
sacred zodiac
Enduring Blow
tough steppe
oh i see
hazy flower
made me wanna spec bb for almost all bosses
sacred zodiac
miss pile on so fucking much
halcyon breach
She says she's perfect, but she doesn't look like Pile On at all
teal fossil
BB was getting outsimmed on ST in 10.05
tough steppe
I can say two things after i changed from Fury to Arms
I got used to the gameplay and now i find it fun
And my tendinitis say thanks
I got tendinitis on my left wrist and holy shit it was really bad when i was playing fury
manic stirrup
maybe wouldnt have died so much on smoldy if i had eb in my veins
rare kite
Just get 4 EB resets inside of Spear and have them all crit
4 resets no crits
sacred zodiac
go next or?
manic stirrup
4 resets no crits
me when i crit every overpower but no ms during damage amp spear
god bless
slot machine gameplay
rare kite
love it
daring heron
My damage tonight felt so lackluster
still consistent purple
high purple too
benzai progressing to consistent 100s one day
halcyon breach
sacred zodiac
noob sim
fossil thistle
I still sim 10k+ under a lot of people
I was mid typing “same here” but I sim 345k.
sacred zodiac
did you also forget to turn on wft?
brisk pilot
i dont have legendary yet and im thinking of getting diurna ring and a trinket but i mostly have pug groups without a group effect is Chromatic esence still strong or?
fossil thistle
i dont have legendary yet and im thinking of getting diurna ring and a trinket b...
Unlikely to have people without OCE later on.
Big thing is having all the buffs on.
As a single OCE user I think it’s a bit weaker and there are better options
brisk pilot
so neltharions would be the trinket to go ?
fast nebula
do smolderon orbs increase legend axe damage?
halcyon breach
They increase all your damage
nimble yoke
halcyon breach
You do
gray steeple
i dont have legendary yet and im thinking of getting diurna ring and a trinket b...
You have Ashkandur?
halcyon breach
You'd Charge -> TC -> Ava + Roar -> BS -> WB -> Rotation
If you have a lot of rage, you can choose to MS after TC to fish for a crit
halcyon breach
BS is there to give you Hurricane really
violet steeple
brisk pilot
You have Ashkandur?
I don't have Askandur yet no but since I only want to play Arms right now and maybe farm leggy (not sure yet not lucky rn but have some bad luck prot things already) I'm unsure
zealous basin
sacred zodiac
dunno maybe
check #updates-midnight or the pins and find the correct thing for your specific character
smoky kayak
My damage tonight felt so lackluster
s'ok, my raid was a shambles lol - we were missing both tanks and our RL
manic stirrup
upgrade your legendary if you havent
quasi mica
Dont have leggy
wooden knot
grieftorch depends upon people dying...so if you pug mid-level keys, would be good for the lolz
sacred zodiac
grieftorch for arms is kinda cringus tho
quasi mica
Idk, im thinking maybe cataclysmic/augury/neltharion
Also should i get ashkandur first?
sacred zodiac
wait your dps is like legit cooked low
halcyon breach
That's very much someone just gearing up
halcyon breach
I would not buy Signet unless you're raiding mythic and intend on killing the last bosses of each raid
sacred zodiac
if youve never killed fyrakk before it might be worth just buying ashkandur and eranog ring
halcyon breach
And yeah, buying Ashkandur if you have no kills basically is very viable
sacred zodiac
you might struggle to proc eranog ring with no helmet enchant
halcyon breach
I haven't checked what the ring uptime is with Ashkandur, but I imagine it shouldn't be too terrible
sacred zodiac
is ashkandur fire
halcyon breach
And worst case, you can use Helm enchant + Ashkandur + Shadowflame
It's Shadowflame
halcyon breach
Let me sim rq and look
sacred zodiac
i will look at you
halcyon breach
looking
dire vale
Hello warriors! So, I followed the advice from discord to improve in fury last season and I'm finally comfortable with the spec!
Today I realize that the weapon is over! with the aim of being the best, do you confirm and how to understand the new rotation? THANK YOU
(if you are french dm me for help 🙂 )
halcyon breach
I haven't checked what the ring uptime is with Ashkandur, but I imagine it shoul...
Right it's pretty bad with Ashkandur + Helm alone. It's 9%~ uptime compared to Shadowflame on an item being 16%~
Ashkandur + Helm + Shadowflame is 19%~
For comparison, Legendary alone brings it up to 27%~ uptime
elfin sage
I see some top players from raider.io play with "Pip's Emerald Friendship Badge", is that an alternative to "Ominous Chromatic Essence" for m+?
pure otter
I must be doing something wrong as shit as arms, both hybrid build and full cleave build are coming out to the same overall
halcyon breach
I see some top players from raider.io play with "Pip's Emerald Friendship Badge"...
Yes, Pips is a consistent and very good option that doesn't rely on group comp
Would say it's arguably the best option for pugging where you can't consistently have buffs
quasi mica
Ok, so what would i wanna go for? I dont enjoy raiding, im a m+ enjoyer
pure otter
may he stub his toe everyday
steep osprey
She
pure otter
may she stub her toes every day
elfin sage
Yes, Pips is a consistent and very good option that doesn't rely on group comp
Ok so I can't go wrong with puzzlebox and Pips, right?
halcyon breach
Ok, so what would i wanna go for? I dont enjoy raiding, im a m+ enjoyer
I'd buy Ashkandur, then whenever you get some more gear try and compare Shadowflame with Eranog ring, against 2x Blue Silken Lining and see the increase difference
Either way you want Eranog + Broodkeeper ring eventually regardless of you having Legendary or not
halcyon breach
Ok so I can't go wrong with puzzlebox and Pips, right?
Correct
sacred zodiac
Either way you want Eranog + Broodkeeper ring eventually regardless of you havin...
this is a lie (500 dps loss)
halcyon breach
Screams at you
sacred zodiac
look up
halcyon breach
Looking down
sacred zodiac
calamity
steep osprey
Calamity's Edge
quasi mica
So for eranog ring i need helm enchant, right?
- ashkandi ofc
what about trinkets tho
wouldnt it be a better idea to go for a trinket with my second pair of bullions?
since right now my trinkets are so bad, its as if i have no trinkets
halcyon breach
It'd be fine yeah
sacred zodiac
ideally you farm a puzzle box
halcyon breach
Ashkandur -> Icon/OCE or simply get Pips if all you'll do is pug
Icon/OCE and Pips are all pretty close to each other at the very highest end, and Pips will always be good
spare goblet
ideally you farm a puzzle box
My same level anvil was outsimming my puzzle box.
sacred zodiac
okay but there are 2 fights in a week that last long enough for your anvil
buying anvil is silly when signet exists and anvil is 2 weeks away to someone new to gearing
halcyon breach
Anvil by comparison is also ass to use for M+
Where Puzzie is always good regardless of scenario
sacred zodiac
you need the cowfarmers anvil weakaura (patented)
gray steeple
Signet rocks … when you can keep stacks up.
spare goblet
okay but there are 2 fights in a week that last long enough for your anvil
Ohh anvil is bad for mplus?
sacred zodiac
over puzzle box? ye
spare goblet
over puzzle box? ye
thanks for telling me
sacred zodiac
abt the same if you're geared
somber lance
like 520?
sacred zodiac
sure
halcyon breach
Igira has an illegal amount of HP considering she's the 2nd boss
sacred zodiac
i mean you should be able to be 515+ just from crest upgrades
summer quartz
Igira has an illegal amount of HP considering she's the 2nd boss
I hate that boss, its such a slog.
its not even a difficult fight, just super boring.
zenith warren
halcyon breach
We just lust on pull
outer holly
I'm playing floor pov
outer holly
voti council being the 1%
astral yarrow
St and unethical roar on adds right before intermission
thick kelp
St and unethical roar on adds right before intermission
ayo
boreal quartz
1 min roar and hit it into boss amp and adds surely
somber lance
uproar shenanigans ok roger
outer holly
Uproar means I have to keybind avatar again, and that's just no bueno for me
boreal quartz
psure its not better
boreal quartz
Uproar means I have to keybind avatar again, and that's just no bueno for me
???????
????????
???????
near ice
can you still channel puzzle box while bladestorming like season 1?
steep osprey
thick kelp
HOly macros on arms
manic stirrup
Uproar means I have to keybind avatar again, and that's just no bueno for me
what does that even mean
outer holly
I macro avvy into TR
gray steeple
can you still channel puzzle box while bladestorming like season 1?
No. gcd now
boreal quartz
I macro avvy into TR
did you ever play tindral
on mythic
cuz thats one way to grief yourself there
manic stirrup
nah never killed it
boreal quartz
like HAAARD grief
near ice
sadge
outer holly
No, guild fell apart in jan
manic stirrup
boss is impossible
boreal quartz
im level 12 idk what button that is
i just know its weird how ur full ranged but also giga not
i need to find a cooler pet soontm
astral yarrow
1 min roar and hit it into boss amp and adds surely
On pull and on the adds he spawns as intermission cast starts
It’s giga
boreal quartz
ye thats what ive been doing all ssn
astral yarrow
No uproar
outer holly
You get like +3 yards on your attacks and then occasionally 30 yards on cd, it's pretty sweet. Plus harpoon is one of the best skills invented
astral yarrow
I have not been that unethical
boreal quartz
its optimal
astral yarrow
I have been doing mechanics
manic stirrup
magus