arms

[frigid lava]

i go bs when i forget to respec

[halcyon breach]

Only change you make is 1 min roar on Tindral/Fyrakk, and improved sweeping on Council

[frigid lava]

lol

[daring heron]

i'm gonna payphone as fury on tindral

arms everything else

[halcyon breach]

Maybe Fury is still better for Tindral

But I think it wont be much of an issue to stay Arms and full ST him

[daring heron]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9SmxqbXXqtwh3qivTwWx2M

my sim pretty stronk now

[halcyon breach]

After fully upgrading my eranog I'm only at 388k

[daring heron]

severe lack of holes tho

[boreal remnant]

I'd be close if I wasn't missing 35k from no leggo

[boreal remnant]

https://tenor.com/view/flushed-gif-23088083

[halcyon breach]

Dw surely Dr. Atnos' suggestions will be implemented

To buy the lego for 2 bullions, then another 2 to get the scales

[daring heron]

honestly think thats super reasonable

[boreal remnant]

considering how huge it is and how much is costs / time investment

[daring heron]

rerolling or returning from break in this season as a lego user must feel like dog

[boreal remnant]

yeah definitely

[hazy flower]

Makes me wanna not touch ret at all

[daring heron]

we suffered in s3, doesnt mean people need to suffer in s4 too

[hazy flower]

O they disabled the clowns

Around the profile pics

[daring heron]

noooooooooo9o

im that upset i tapped o that many times on my phone

[boreal remnant]

like a lot of people can't even get the legendary because they don't have the gold for it, and not everyone has the ability to spend their income on a token

[halcyon breach]

It was very cool to go on my hunter, kill 1 lfr boss, and instantly have bis weapon that can upgrade to 535

[frigid lava]

im now ilvl 517... but still no leggo

[boreal remnant]

so stupid

[daring heron]

that weapon is insane isnt it

[halcyon breach]

not really

[ashen lichen]

what would you suggest replacing OCE for raid content?

[daring heron]

o ok

[halcyon breach]

It's 50% auto shot damage, but auto shot does not do that much damage

[hazy flower]

Its been nerfed since s1 but its still strong

Whatever it was in s1 it was brutal

[halcyon breach]

It used to be auto attack speed which was broken as BM, since it scaled your pets attack speed too

[daring heron]

please dont ask me these questions rn i'm at max capacity

[hazy flower]

Simmed bettee than fyralath for plate users

[ashen lichen]

understood

[halcyon breach]

MM though spends 90% of the fight channeling anyway so it's not like they can auto attack a lot 👴

[daring heron]

have you played any angery warrior since buff benzai

did it feel 3.8% stronger

[halcyon breach]

I played 2 fury keys yesterday

But I in fact just felt weak after having played hunter for 5 days straight

And said hunter is now equally geared as my warrior

[daring heron]

benzai is spoiled

[halcyon breach]

I am

ranged life is intoxicating

[daring heron]

i get so bored in ranged

nothing happens

and when something does happen it's awful

[halcyon breach]

Since I just do my weekly keys, and not really super into pushing keys, I enjoy just being able to payphone all my keys on my hunter

[boreal remnant]

always fun hearing ranged players complain about mechanics

[somber lance]

Wutchu mean tindy parses are disabled?

Doesnt count towards your avg?

[halcyon breach]

You don't get allstars for it

Correct

[somber lance]

oh fine

Because of padding i guess

Smh unethical padders

[halcyon breach]

There was a large disparity between people allowed to do as much root damage as possible, and them just not flying up at all

Not a fan of omega giga pad fights being on allstars to begin with

But at least they fix them later down the line

[daring heron]

i wish i wasnt perma assigned to feathers

[frigid lava]

just not flying up at all... what do u mean

[hazy flower]

Esp since flying is the best part of the fight

[daring heron]

it was cool during prog

[halcyon breach]

On Mythic you have to fly during each phase, sometimes twice depending on your raids damage, to kill the roots

[hazy flower]

I had 1 reclear so prog viewpoint

[fervent hawk]

looks good on details 🙂

[frigid lava]

Ah .. ic

[halcyon breach]

Typically you have melee fly, but some people were allowed to just stay down and keep doing damage

And that damage you do to the roots, when you fly, doesn't count towards your parse

[daring heron]

we were boosting last week and thought we were dead cause only 2 people managed to fly with feathers

but one of the flyers was a hero and grabbed 2 orbs and died, didnt even know you could

[halcyon breach]

Oh yeah

You just get gibbed insta if you do

Small damage number

[dull siren]

There is 0 way ur 524 and say I'm spooned @astral yarrow dont listen to this slander + @gaunt owl is a drunken old man on wednesdays

[boreal quartz]

[daring heron]

u ok tmy

[thick kelp]

Bro digging chats from yesterday and wasnt even pinged on it

[dull siren]

I was told

That I've been slandered

[thick kelp]

:caught :

[dull siren]

no they keep saying im spooned

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1230539998898684057.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[gaunt owl]

https://tenor.com/view/should-have-been-me-crying-sad-angry-gif-15937588

[thick kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1230539998898684057.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dull siren]

you have more gear than me in the guild

stop xanning

[thick kelp]

xanning state of mind

[gaunt owl]

i'm naked dont lie

[dull siren]

He doesn't even do m+ to upgrade his gear

[boreal quartz]

@quasi torrent hosen dropped no way

[boreal quartz]

KING

[gaunt owl]

why would i

oh yeah that reminds me i dont have a shadowbelt clasp on my new socket belt

[quasi torrent]

im 524 get fucked nerd

[thick kelp]

twinning

[dull siren]

I'm 522

[hazy flower]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kjnxSbTd8p9vp6cip3W1rn

zzzzzzzzz

I need to do mplus

to get some crests

[daring heron]

waduhek

[quasi torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/3vAzIDt.png

noob

[daring heron]

no wft 4 min myrt sim?

[hazy flower]

ah wait

I was simming

for what I have in raid

[quasi torrent]

no wft

NOOOOOOOO

[hazy flower]

forgot to change settings

[quasi torrent]

515 boots

NOOOOOOOOO

[daring heron]

definitely rage starved now

[hazy flower]

na boots are ok

dont wanna spend aspects

[daring heron]

no rage for ANYTHING

[quasi torrent]

its very noticable in exe tbh

exe without WFT feels like fucking ass

[halcyon breach]

one thing is off

[quasi torrent]

pipus minimus

[halcyon breach]

It's my best trinket for m+

[hazy flower]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rZj25AFi9MwTWWhZmhboc2

[daring heron]

pips took me forever to replace as well

[hazy flower]

same dam

[daring heron]

actually jk i got sandglass early

[hazy flower]

with wft

(which I dont have)

[halcyon breach]

would hate to get a good trinket to replace it with

Surely pips drops on mythic and I get it right

Then I wont have to worry about Icon/OCE

[hazy flower]

also this flightstone stuff is bullshit

I am so STARVED for them

[halcyon breach]

You're missing flightstones?

I'm missing crests en masse

[hazy flower]

I'm missing LOTS of flightstones

[gaunt owl]

do seeds !

[quasi torrent]

🧑‍🌾 🌱

[hazy flower]

seed dn

I did 3 seeds for the spark

got bored

[gaunt owl]

there are probably custom raid for this

[drowsy blade]

Did I get baited by buying signet brand yesterday?

[halcyon breach]

I just flew around and planted a seed, then never came back for it

[dull siren]

ppaww go do keys

[hazy flower]

maybe lfr?

[dull siren]

u do 2keys per week

[hazy flower]

it drops like 50 flightstones per boss

[gaunt owl]

no today i wanna chill

[steep osprey]

[gaunt owl]

probably heading out to get some mcdo

[daring heron]

take some of mine im perma capped somehow

[hazy flower]

yes give

my mage has 2k

because that shit has no gear

[drowsy blade]

Somehow he says

[daring heron]

dunno what you're implying

[steep osprey]

[drowsy blade]

nothing in particular, since you are doing alot of keys I thought it was funny 😄

[steep osprey]

Streamer luck

streamers get 50% more Flightsones

[daring heron]

i dont do that many keys

maybe 1 or 2 a week

[steep osprey]

I do many keys a week

[steady plover]

@daring heron ya critcake do you hit the gym and have 8 to 5 work scheudle beside playing wow

[daring heron]

yeah man

[dull siren]

smh

[glossy belfry]

Hi! i was told I should use Blue Silken Lining on the neck, but I tried to fake it and on the belt it apparently gives me over 3k more dps. my necklace is the HC Custodian's Medallion of Deception and my belt is the HC Ravenous Omnivore's Girdle. What should I do?

and I see that the majority wear it around their neck, does something work wrong in raid bots?

[reef birch]

did you slap 3 sockets on the neck?

also, double check you actually have the bsl placed on the lower simming item

caught myself neglecting to do that more times than id care to admit

[silk spade]

not sure how you sim so high.. as your gear isnt much diff from mine, also... your mythic logs.. was this boosted or did you play?

[narrow fossil]

what did you guys buy as second item after legendary upgrade? Seal of Diurna's Chosen ?

[hazy flower]

boosted

[glossy belfry]

I made sure I got everything right on this second try.

[halcyon breach]

@gaunt owl what is the string to turn a set bonus on and off

[gaunt owl]

set_bonus=tier31_4pc=0
set_bonus=tier29_2pc=1
set_bonus=tier29_4pc=1```

[halcyon breach]

ty love you

[silk spade]

what are you cooking

[halcyon breach]

just wanted to check funny with and without set bonus

If the set bonus crit chance and damage increase applies to external damage sources like Fyralath or trinkets

But I don't know what the string is specifically for S4 gear because it's like 31.5

And it's not tier 29 either

[gaunt owl]

its dragonflights4 something like this

if you do it wrong on purpose it should give you an error and some solution

[misty yew]

Do we use cleave now on ST if MS on CD

[halcyon breach]

gg

[halcyon breach]

Yes, if you have no other button and no Martial Prowess stacks

[gaunt owl]

dragonflight_season_4_2pc and dragonflight_season_4_4pc

those are the ones

[halcyon breach]

right

[gaunt owl]

if tier set apply we are so donezo

having to rng gamba it

[halcyon breach]

Idk it was something I just thought of mid dung

Hadn't seen anyone talk about it either so

[gaunt owl]

didnt cross my mind

[halcyon breach]

madge

[gaunt owl]

you put it in expert mode under actor right ?

[halcyon breach]

w/e too lazy to do it through sims just gonna waste time on dummies

I put it in header

It's been like

[halcyon breach]

3 years since I last did this

right

[gaunt owl]

player custom

[halcyon breach]

explains a lot

[gaunt owl]

it didnt change the dmg of Fyralath

curse avoided

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=394173/strike-vulnerabilities

[halcyon breach]

right

[gaunt owl]

looking at the debuff

[halcyon breach]

Could've also checked wowhead for flags

[gaunt owl]

its actually hard coded to dmg boost those

[halcyon breach]

But that'd also mean I wouldn't learn anything 👴

[eager solstice]

how is that ring above the cape for bullion spending

we dont even do fire damage

[halcyon breach]

You do through helm enchant, fyralath, shadowflame if you have it

Or signet brand/augury

[eager solstice]

ohh i see

so is it better than cape with just helm enchant?

like does the damage stack more if you have helm + trinks

[halcyon breach]

I wouldn't use Eranog with just the helm enchant

The uptime is very lackluster

[daring heron]

when silm checked it it looked like the 8% crit works for fyralath, but not the damage

is that right

[halcyon breach]

According to the sims, it doesn't increase the crit%

[gaunt owl]

could be

[halcyon breach]

The .7% difference should be a lot higher if it did

[daring heron]

ye

idk what silm said was based off that on wowhead

[gaunt owl]

oh wait

to try this

we have to do a weird APL stuff to send MS first and guarantee the bonus is there

[daring heron]

yea

[halcyon breach]

Yeah

[daring heron]

could just use it in aoe and check real quick i guess

[halcyon breach]

But I didn't bother figuring out how to trial and error that

[daring heron]

with that many hits it can't be coincidence

i'll try 5 dummies

i've been doing cleave before fyralath in dungeons assuming the 8% crit works

[halcyon breach]

Yeah no the Crit % does not seem to apply to it at all

[quasi torrent]

just check for debuff instead

on fyralath on use

[gaunt owl]

yep thats what i did

just changed the line at the bottom to include the buff

[reef glade]

wtf fix game blizz

[gaunt owl]

nothing proven yet

[reef glade]

[gaunt owl]

i dont even wanna know

[halcyon breach]

I'm basically 99% certain now it doesn't interact with our set

Which I'm very thankful for

[gaunt owl]

sim seems to prove that

[daring heron]

are we sure

[gaunt owl]

i dont wanna dig too deep thats really a curse

[halcyon breach]

I just compared hitting 1 target with charge -> insta lego

And charge -> ms -> lego after crit

It had same crit % in both

[daring heron]

i need more data

[halcyon breach]

Yeah I mean 1 quick target dummy test isn't very compelling

[gaunt owl]

if it works even the dot should be

[daring heron]

this was just a dot test

the ss i sent, 5 targets 2 mins

[halcyon breach]

The left pic is no buff, the right is with buff

Of course, 1 sample size

But yeah

[daring heron]

without

[naive sage]

Me: I have no gambling addiction
Also me: making a weakaura right now to play the "KA-CHING" sound everytime Exhilarating Blows procs

[daring heron]

with

i dunnoooooo the dot seems to work at least

need to separate rage and mark to check the on use

[gaunt owl]

there is something for that

let me find it

[latent moss]

imagine not having 62% crit with phial

(i have neltharion ring)

[daring heron]

i figured having relatively low crit is actually kinda nice for testing this

i'm in fury gear pretty much

[halcyon breach]

In my sims, the dot had 31.5% crit chance both with and without the set bonus

[latent moss]

(and all crit pieces)

(32% haste)

[gaunt owl]

Details.OverridedSpellIds[413584] = 424094
Details.OverridedSpellIds[417134] = 424094```

put this into the autorun code @daring heron

[silk spade]

I have that for Battlelord

[gaunt owl]

but Dot is working for me

[daring heron]

ty

ye the dot definitely seems to work, right?

[gaunt owl]

i got 52% crit

its cursed

4min dummy

[daring heron]

i can't imagine it being rng if it's this consistently around 8% diff on 5 targets over 2 mins

[gaunt owl]

i did 4min and put the target under execute to have 95% uptime on 4p Buff

Banzei why !

[halcyon breach]

huh

[storm lark]

Do all raids open next week or is it 1 more rotation?

[halcyon breach]

sorry I guess lol

[halcyon breach]

1 more rotation

[gaunt owl]

annoying part is testing the on use now

i uninstall the game and gonna take a shower i feel dirty

[daring heron]

it didn't separate the two for me ppaww

idk ill try reload

[gaunt owl]

if you did as i have on the screenshot it should be ok

[daring heron]

ye i pasted it

[gaunt owl]

did you save too ?

i did it long ago it was Silm that gave me the lines

[daring heron]

ye i clicked save

ok works after reload

i got 35% on on use on 5

maybe it just doesnt work on the use, but works on dot

i'll try again on cd

[gaunt owl]

oh yeha more target dummy should give you a better sample size too

its gonna even out

[daring heron]

ye thats why im doing it on 5 targets

less rng

ok now i got 50%

i think i need like

algethar academy first pull

that'll convince me

ill pull it myself with dbts and see if i live to use it

[gaunt owl]

plz no more

[silk spade]

can do it on heroic or something

[gaunt owl]

or normal yeah

i'm out plz dont hit me with the results

i dont wanna try to make it optimize in the sim when its not working there

we need some of the magician to stop this

[daring heron]

it's so over man

it's SO over

[halcyon breach]

sorry ig

[fresh spire]

Something bugged?

[naive sage]

What are you looking for?

[daring heron]

checking if fyralath benefits from 4piece 8% crit

[naive sage]

You mean the active ability?

[compact tiger]

someone know how to catch up with sparks? could not play last week and now im one half behind

[daring heron]

active and dot

[gaunt owl]

because this exists its a straight up 8% crit on everything

we need @jovial marsh

[hallow vale]

is that ask mr robot?

[gaunt owl]

no its wowhead data spell

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=394173/strike-vulnerabilities#modifies

[hallow vale]

thanks!

[gaunt owl]

i'm so out

[naive sage]

We're getting the nerf axe soon right?

[errant bough]

if it doesnt increase tooltip crit then it only whitelists spells usually

[naive sage]

I can feel it coming in the air tonight 🎶

[fresh spire]

Can't wait to find out reck bugged buffing axe

[naive sage]

💀

[hallow vale]

so if it was class abilities only it would be something else rather than -All at the end of the first line ? @gaunt owl

[gaunt owl]

yep stop plz

[hallow vale]

xd

[naive sage]

If it worked the same way in S1 i see no reason to nerf it now tbh

[gaunt owl]

recklessness doesnt give us 20%

[naive sage]

There were possible interactions with items back then too

[daring heron]

yeah reck is limited to just warrior abilities

[fresh spire]

That's why I said bugged

[naive sage]

The set i mean, not recklessness

[hallow vale]

can you explain what the (7) after the first line means? Sorry for the questions but this is the first time i encounter such a discussion

;d

for this particular thing on wowhead

[gaunt owl]

its a specific aura group actually

and its just the number 7

[hallow vale]

aha, got it

[gaunt owl]

tier set has the 22

[cold garnet]

it’s for the 7 deadly sins of man

[lone imp]

So is this just the dot or is this also the on use

[astral yarrow]

Higher ilvl with no big items

[boreal quartz]

`xd

[quaint otter]

augury or oce from bullions 🤔 already got anvil

[lone imp]

ring?

[quaint otter]

ring is too sussy

[lone imp]

lol

[gaunt owl]

everything

[quaint otter]

augury rng too but...

[boreal quartz]

ring is op

[lone imp]

If I had to pick between those two, I would pick augury

Just cause I hate the idea of having oce and not having it fully buffed

and augury seems to have the opportunity to overperform

[quaint otter]

🎰

[lone imp]

Yeah lol

And when they give fury 10% buff augury stonks will go way up

[quaint otter]

our dh did like 15k with augury on one of encounters

15kk*

[lone imp]

I guess technically augury stonks would go down if they buffed fury lol

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i7dtvwJZdAfmYqnbKrPnCZ

[drowsy blade]

Did I get baited by buying signet brand yesterday?

[lone imp]

It's good on end bosses

Which is like, the most important place to be good right

So not all bad

[misty iron]

uhh guys?

i may have overcritted by accident

[grim anchor]

its not BIS?

[grim anchor]

same

[copper swan]

Jesus Crit

[lone imp]

Where mastery

[clever crag]

You should aim for 40/40/10/10

[lone imp]

lol

[misty iron]

i'm aiming for 69/42/0/

[lone imp]

Nice

[clever crag]

That is perfection

[silk spade]

if you unequip some pieces maybe

[misty iron]

i need to bring my warrior up, stats should level out closer to full myth gear

[silk spade]

surely crafting a second embellishment will help

can fix stats with that a lil bit

[misty iron]

i missed last week's quest and spark doesn't want to drop at all

[misty iron]

my cloak is vers/mastery so it can't fix it lmao

[nimble basin]

weekly quest? i think. Im the same.

[dull siren]

where do you put the

30% extra stats

that you have

[misty iron]

leech

[crude raft]

lol should i get augury on arms xD?

[lone imp]

I think 30% is probably pretty accurate actually lol

[cold garnet]

40/40/20/20

[grim anchor]

40 what 40 what 10 what 10 what

[lone imp]

pp's

[modest moss]

Just 40/40/10/10 in any stats really

Just go for it. Don't let your dreams be dreams

[grim anchor]

on wowhead it says signet brand is BIS

40 haste?! yes boss

[lone imp]

40 haste is pretty easily attained

[naive sage]

If you have lower ilvl rings use them

Or reforge your crafted items

[hazy flower]

pretty sure youre simming without all buffs

on your oce

and well icon

[rugged wave]

What are best pieces for BSL? Cloak and wrists?

[fading sage]

How much of a loss is it to unbind slam during S4? I see it as the bottom of prio as filler but if I don’t want to bind it. How bad is it to ignore it?

[modest moss]

I'll just use what my Sim tells me to use when I get items.

[naive sage]

Ok

Keep your 31% haste then

[modest moss]

I'm waiting for a stat stick trinket honestly to boost my haste a bit

[grim anchor]

is that why my dmg is bad ?

[modest moss]

Also versa is tasty

Your damage is bad because you most likely play wrong, dead globals etc

Your stats has less to do with it than playstyle

[grim anchor]

I dont

[modest moss]

Post your logs and ask around about that

[grim anchor]

will do ty

[crude raft]

all buffs

and got signet on hero track

[clever crag]

Put them in your dreams and aspirations

[astral yarrow]

Didn’t you do 410 yday

[dull siren]

On

1 of my 3 warriors yeah

[fading sage]

o.0

[naive sage]

Based

[astral yarrow]

Hello how am I getting the spoon then

[somber lance]

Is oce a better choice than pips if i wanna play a bit of fury?

[rugged wave]

What are best pieces for BSL? Cloak and wrists?

[somber lance]

Boots and neck also

[rugged wave]

Boots have more str tho than cloak and wrists?

I was mostly asking about cloak vs neck i guess

[gaunt owl]

the lowest item lvl piece you have is the best option

can always sim and stuff

[rugged wave]

True that but I'm asking from BiS perspective

[proper estuary]

someone know where the emeral spot ist for OcE ?

[lone imp]

google knows for sure

[rugged wave]

I'd like to plan this stuff so for example I don't pick cloak in vault if I'm gonna get BSL cloak eventually for example

[proper estuary]

google give me some emerald dream music

theme based wow music

^^

[lone imp]

lmgtfy

[proper estuary]

ty

[knotty creek]

how do I know what stat I should get for crafted items

is there a way to sim it

[somber lance]

chat gpt actually chatting

Mastery prio i sleep

trying to get answers because all yellows are afk

[olive nest]

Gear compare might be the easiest way if you do not already have the item crafted

Possible a string for it exists as well but I don’t have one off hand

[knotty creek]

alright ill try gear comparing

[white hedge]

Yerro
Am dogshit player
Require assistance
Academy's final boss trash
The echo knights's whirlwind/bladestorm
How do you guys deal with it
I get two of them spinning and im dead

Arms dont really have a good aoe cc so i cant exactly stop them and im left staring at them

[quaint otter]

Dont come too close

[somber lance]

u can storm bolt them no?

[vast creek]

spec into shockwave or use die by the sword - 8seconds you parry their WW

[olive nest]

Your group should actively be stopping the whirlwinds

If they’re not then you do what you can to stop them

[fleet spindle]

Hey guys I'm currently trying playing Arms, last time was during BFA. Are there some auras to track ? Test of might ? Is there a WA for that ? Or for other auras ?

[white hedge]

I did use dbts byt the moment it finishes im died
How do i spec into shock wave lmao
So many things are required

[white hedge]

There are like 3/4
And i have to tab into em

[olive nest]

You would not talent up roar or cruel strikes

[cyan lagoon]

Shockwave is always an option

[olive nest]

And take stam+shockwave

[white hedge]

Jc ok

[crude raft]

anyone has working macro that when i hold ctrl my mortal strike changes into the cleave?

[white hedge]

Cause i must say
Roar does a fuck ton od damage over the run
Tops everything else i have

[olive nest]

Yeah I never run shockwave

[crude raft]

#showtooltip
/cast Mortal Strike [mod:ctrl]Cleave i tried something like this but its not working

[olive nest]

I do drop cruel strikes for stam though

In hard keys I haven’t timed yet

[shadow ibex]

just drop rage talent

[somber lance]

we drop a point in crushing force for uproar? forcertain raid encounters

actually we cant

[cyan lagoon]

Yeah, you can't drop a point from top of the tree and put one in the bottom

[silk spade]

where did you learn this skill...

[cyan lagoon]

He is hackerman

[somber lance]

so just drop 1 point of cruel strikes?

[cyan lagoon]

Yes

[lone imp]

It’s a tough job, asking questions to the thing that has answers tbh

[weary hull]

how did u do that sim

[silk spade]

a second bind with ctrl + your regular ms bind?

could work

[crude raft]

idk how https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fMJsmRMSTxhDELh5AKRBdm

[silk spade]

why are you running crushing force

[crude raft]

/castsequence [mod:ctrl] Cleave; Mortal Strike
works

[astral yarrow]

real men want that 0.1% dps

NEED IT

its kinda funny how those 2 points actually have rotational impact

[silk spade]

is it even an increase

[astral yarrow]

yeah small one

[hazy flower]

0.2%

xdddd

[astral yarrow]

makes it optimal to slam over TC when rend has more than 12 sec remaining

[silk spade]

yeah i'd rather press tc

[quasi torrent]

why use castseq here

just do /use lol

this ain't no sequence

[hazy flower]

I thought it might be the play but if its almost the same

might as well just tc

[quasi torrent]

(a sequence can be length one, i am aware, shut up)

[somber lance]

i actually need to drop it because i took slam off bars. i mistakenly copie the wowhead string and it gave me this

[hazy flower]

also tc is better bc you sometimes can lose uptime making your 2cf points less valuable in real life scenarios

[crude raft]

true idk why i put that one there

[latent hull]

what would you guys pick

[silk spade]

were you playing without pain and gain

[latent hull]

haste mastery legs or crit vers

i have both in vault

wowhead says haste mastery legs r bis but my crit and vers are on lower side

my stats rn

[daring heron]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

[latent hull]

idk why i have so little haste wtf is this

[somber lance]

ye and no honed reflexes

[latent hull]

yday u didnt sim urself

and put on crit runes

i mean u say that we should seem and not follow u

but stil

[daring heron]

crit rune i actually simmed

[latent hull]

that 18 rlp

that u depleted first pull

[daring heron]

ye its cause i didnt sim

so sim yoself

[hazy flower]

man av is so piss timer wise

[hallow vale]

fail to prepare, prepare to fail!

[hazy flower]

I remember when it was one of the harder dungeons

and then they added like 5 mins to it

[silk spade]

you can die 20 times on av and time it

[daring heron]

we died like 20 times on our highest av last week (was it +18?) and still timed

[hazy flower]

yep

it actually seems easier than brh/ad last season

idk

[silk spade]

critcake mimicking messages at lightspeed

check him pc

[hazy flower]

which were also extremely lenient timer wise xd

we had a full on wipe in 31 brh and still timed it with minute left

maybe even worse than just wipe because took us 4 mins to kill that big pull when tank died after 2nd boss

[hallow vale]

AV a lot less randomness in trash mob abilities, everything is stoppable

[silk spade]

I lost power on a brh at the second boss and came back to my group doing the staircase trash to the last boss. timed it

it was like a 23 but still

very funny

[daring heron]

nah i typed 20 before but took about 50 hours to try to remember if it was a +18

slow brain

they can defo take some time off AV

but people will complain so maybe just leave it as is

[hazy flower]

nah leave because they specifically added the timer in s1 and I think they added even more on ptr

so it'd be like reverting arms buffs to tier set

it was 35:30 at the end of s1 iirc

[cyan lagoon]

Take some time off AV and give it to Uldaman

Everyone will be happy

[nimble yoke]

to open in aoe, do we charge > tclap > roar > avatar+wb > spin > OP > OP > cleave > WW > etc...?

i know that it's like just press buttons and you'll likely be fine but just wondering what the ideal is lmao

[hazy flower]

if anything you'd want ss before op

[nimble yoke]

oh yeah i forgor

[hazy flower]

your first 5 buttons are correct (can also do ava wb into roar but ig its whatever) then either ww into ss op spam or straight up ss op spam

maybe also cleave right before bladestorm but iirc its whatever

[nimble yoke]

and how does it change in ST? i heard that we don't tclap first, is it mortal strike first gcd now or?

[hallow vale]

i recently started to cleave before the bladestorm and my opener max dps dropped kekw

[frigid lava]

why would that be

[lament sigil]

bsl not stacking?

[empty sluice]

it does

[lament sigil]

well i thought it does and i crafted 2, but it doesnt show anything , nor do my stats change when i equip the second one

[empty sluice]

unequip them and eq again

[lament sigil]

already did that

[empty sluice]

well, it works

click them faster I guess, idk 😄

[sacred zodiac]

jump off a building and heal up or smth

[old hare]

Hey guys how do I sim the oce attunements?

[sacred zodiac]

theres a string somewhere

here

[lament sigil]

i had to equip them at the same time with the equip manager in order for it to work ...

[old hare]

oh wow thank you!

[empty sluice]

there you go 😄

[mild hound]

Sims are having me stack a bunch of haste ST, 50%, but obtain more mastery in my 5target sim and for multi I end up being 36crit/38haste/40mastery/26verz in multi

5target sim is the play for keys? Gear and trinks?

[violet steeple]

I do 8 target 2m

[meager bough]

Hey Guyz, Diurna ring or Ominus chromatic essence ? I already have Elementium pocket Anvil 535 😮

[violet steeple]

Diurna ring is BIS

Rings dont offer damdam, this ring offers damdam, damdam good

[gray herald]

[meager bough]

😄

[somber lance]

im getting diurna next week i think. i only have 489 trinkets so icon/oce are mega big

[meager bough]

I ave storm eater and Elementium, but sims are not helping my choices

for mythic + what do you sim ? dongeons slice ? patwerk 1 target and 5 ?

[left talon]

always be simmin ST

[frigid lava]

so many dumb dh tanks... jump jump jump away from the grp and dies and blames

[left talon]

ofc their class does everything for them, meanwhile prot warriors have to master trigonometry

[old hare]

what did everyone get with 2nd bullion that doesn't have legendary

[mild hound]

No Lego? Can’t imagine the dps loss for arms there

[old hare]

):

[verbal marten]

No lego is probably like 30k loss

[cloud basin]

does anyboody have the single weapon rune string for advanced sim?

[verbal marten]

#Weapon Stone/Rune
profileset."Buzzing_Rune"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3"
profileset."Howling_Rune"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3"
profileset."Hissing_Rune"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3"
profileset."Whetstone"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3"

[grand idol]

I think I can confidently say haste. I’m over 40% and it’s always wanting more. But obviously not a robot sim for your particular specifications.

[olive nest]

Robot wants all the haste

[cloud basin]

my guy

[lone imp]

Bro log rankings be weird, I don't get it.

[olive nest]

So many variables

[lone imp]

Naw lookit

Says rank 55 ye

[mild hound]

My st sim has me at like 51 haste, lol

[grand idol]

I learned last night the evoker leggo gives a bunch of main stat.

They can’t steal that dam

[daring heron]

it's based off how far you are from the 100 log

[olive nest]

Well yeah so like 100 logs

Lmao

[lone imp]

Yeah but the last number is the rank number

Not the percentage

or whatever

[daring heron]

o like that

[olive nest]

It’s because there are very few mythic smold logs for arms

[lone imp]

Mine don't even show up, there ain't even 55 logs lol

[fossil thistle]

Whose man

[daring heron]

looks not updated assuming filters are correct

[olive nest]

Free vault

[lone imp]

Yeah but is locked in

I would think it all updated when it locked it in

But yet, it no do

[olive nest]

Oh that’s actually odd then

Locked in should be the most up to date

To my knowledge

[lone imp]

Yeah like, there's 46 logs and I am rank 55 with rank 10 damage

make that make sense lol

[junior phoenix]

Is the ring still the go to 2nd purchase of bullions?

[olive nest]

Yes

[lone imp]

And it's r10 for all warriors, and r76 for all classes... so where this 55 came from idk lol

[fossil thistle]

Definitely get slime cat

[olive nest]

Are you sure that’s not the ilvl parse?

Like you’re 55 percentile for your ilvl

[lone imp]

Naw

[hallow vale]

logs are broken. A friend of mine did r19 world dmg on gnarlroot, he ain't even listed ;d

the log is locked 99

[lone imp]

Okay so it's not just me lol

[olive nest]

Not broke just biased

[hallow vale]

xd

[olive nest]

Whatever helps you sleep at night right

[sacred zodiac]

p sure its comparing you to early tuesday NA logs

[olive nest]

[lone imp]

How though

there isn't 55 logs lol

[nimble acorn]

whew I can throw WCL under the bus to cover for my performance last night

[hazy flower]

pretty sure

[nimble acorn]

thanks guys

[hazy flower]

its broken

just go for natty

aka exclude PI's

and you'll get full ranking

idk why

[sacred zodiac]

it just hasnt updated the new logs yet

[shell skiff]

if M+ is the prio as a arms warrior and i have puzzle box what should i get beside that as a trinket ? essence?

[sacred zodiac]

its comparing you against all logs that are avaialble but only listing like 10 its kinda funny

[hazy flower]

I couldnt find my logs in the top rankings till I did that

[lone imp]

Yeah I still don't show up excluding

[hazy flower]

no?

it did for me

[lone imp]

Ope okay I did that and it did

It didn't when including all classes

but did for just arms

[hazy flower]

ye I went for arms

insta

either way

[lone imp]

That makes me feel better

The math will now math lol

[shell skiff]

Any tinket topic pinned?

[verbal marten]

Anyone else kill smoldy?

[lone imp]

ye

[verbal marten]

Boss hitting like a truck in mythic

Wtf

[fossil thistle]

#updates-midnight message

[olive oracle]

Isn't arms stat priority strength-haste-crit-mastery-versatility anymore?

[olive nest]

Out dated

You sim gear

And equip what it suggests

[lone imp]

didn't seem that bad to me tbh

[fossil thistle]

Str>transmog>sim

[sacred zodiac]

utilize a defensive or two

[verbal marten]

Oh i did

[lone imp]

Yeah idk we didn't have issues that wasn't just people fucking up

[sacred zodiac]

then stop malding !!

[verbal marten]

Whos malding

?

[nimble basin]

how dare you say the massively controversial statement of a boss hits hard 😂

[gray herald]

im malding

[verbal marten]

[hollow wave]

Iam a pugger and I think I've reached a limit where it's so hard to be invited or form a group for +10 keys

Wish a had friends

[nimble basin]

it's a weird one. sometimes it's not an issue others it is. I'm 520 ilvl 2800 score yet tried to do a few easy 10s for crests and took me a hot minute 😂

people gatekeep low keys a lot

also loads applying

struggling to get into 13s atm even though they're no issue at all.

is what it is

[frigid lava]

extra hard this week and next week

afflix

[nimble basin]

true

[hollow wave]

Iam 516 and it's almost impossible for me

[frigid lava]

i don't even have leggo.. just did +10

[quaint otter]

legend...

[hollow wave]

Maybe I should switch to tank

[nimble basin]

well yeah you'll get into groups. it's just sometimes harder, randomly, for no reason.

[frigid lava]

there are plenty ppl 2500+ queuing ... that's why

[nimble basin]

and the fact some don't want warriors even if they have the highest score / ilvl

and other reasons

[frigid lava]

It takes a while for me to get in too.. but I do run a few a day at least.

[opaque citrus]

Lmao I got told “you’re repping arms really well, nice damage” after a 12 ulda

[nimble basin]

pug lyf anyways. always been the same

[opaque citrus]

So clearly there’s a lot of shitters

Because I’m not that good

[hollow wave]

I don't blame, why would they? No off heal, no decurse, can't even stop the affix

[quaint otter]

[sick wave]

Chromatic or Eranog ring?

[abstract verge]

Chromatic if play with other chromatic

We used the gifted bullion of the quest to take it almost all in my guild

Fully buffed it is huge

[dire hinge]

We had 120 applicants for dps on a 10 key last night and the first five people were 3700+ last season, it’s rough out there

[sacred zodiac]

probably eranog

[frigid lava]

next week is vault again

[nimble yoke]

you get a chance for leggo on every difficulty right?

like i could do lfr, normal, and heroic every week and get 3 chances

[livid cloak]

Just do heroic

[hollow wave]

I think it's almost impossible to get leggo from anything less than heroic

[livid cloak]

It gives you all 3 chances at once

[nimble yoke]

ah fr?

[livid cloak]

Yes

[sacred zodiac]

you should do the highest difficulty available to you yeah

[nimble yoke]

so not worth also doing the other ones

good to know

[frigid lava]

I've heard some lucky mf got leggo from LFR

[nimble yoke]

if i do lfr and normal in a week (gearing the warr up rn from season 2 lol), will I have the same chance if I do heroic?

[dire hinge]

Yeah, blizzard explicitly came out and was like, “having to do it multiple times would not be fun, just kill it on the hardest difficulty you’re able to”.

[nimble yoke]

gotcha, that's good of them then

[hollow wave]

And pay 300k for it

[dire hinge]

It snowballs all of your weeks chances into the highest kill. So killing it on heroic does your rolls for LFR, Normal, and Heroic all at once

[hollow wave]

Worst design ever

[nimble yoke]

i'm a whole ass 482 ilvl atm so i might not exactly get into a heroic tho lmao

we'll have to see

isn't it like 150k rn? maybe a bit more?

i don't even know what you need to buy, that's just what i heard lol

[sacred zodiac]

should be able to get into unawakened hc fyrakk at 482

someone said ~170k yday cba confirming

[nimble yoke]

can't turn the awaken off can you?

[livid cloak]

Next week you can

Because it's just off

[nimble yoke]

ye i meant like flip a switch next to the raid and turn it off this week lol, but yeah i'll be sure to do it next week

[dire hinge]

It’ll be off next week and the following, when Vault and Aberrus awaken

[nimble yoke]

🙏

got 3 weeks to have good rng lol

[dire hinge]

And get more ilvl in the meantime so when Amirdrassil reawakens you can get into heroic then too 👏

[frigid lava]

how do u SR the last boss in HoI

[silent gazelle]

what embelishments do we use right now for the best gain in raid?

vers wrists and shadowflame?

[rare kite]

need to taunt the boss, get hit by the knockback(defensive) then sr the big hit

[frigid lava]

-_ -

[nocturne wadi]

Wrist and BSL highest dps if you can stay healthy otherwise you go shadowflame

[fading sage]

What’s the source of the raids going through another rotation? I’m hearing differing people say that they’ll all be available next week

[eternal vortex]

Thats not true

All will be awakened after 6th weeks

[sacred zodiac]

they said in some bluepost at the start of the season

or before the season

[short spear]

why does blizzard allow incorporeal to spawn so far away from the screen. it should spawn within a short range of the tank

[sacred zodiac]

just have a wa for when they spawn or

[fossil thistle]

Just use an ultra wide 😂

[short spear]

you still have to go find them and if a ranged is a mile away, they can be literally 40 yards away

just a badly made affix

[rare kite]

as a warrior i love incorp

[frigid lava]

kinda do, if u can get in a grp

[short spear]

incorp and afflicted would be better off removed

[zenith warren]

what build would you use on mtindral?

[lost kernel]

Which active trinket better for 1 min fight anvil or puzzle?

[rare kite]

for 1 min fight? puzzle easily

[frigid lava]

u are fucking pumped half the fight

[rare kite]

50% uptime puzzle is crazy

[frigid lava]

then not for the next 2 and half minutes

[olive nest]

Full ST / 1 min roar

[lost kernel]

And 1.5 or 2 min fight puzzle still wins anvil?

[grand idol]

Anvil needs like 4 mins to ramp up

[lost kernel]

I just looted hc anvil and wana figure out if i need to farm puzzle from m+

[clever crag]

Anvil feels soooo goood tho when it ramps for execute phase

[wild heart]

Anvil only good for raid

And long fights

Same with CSB

[lost kernel]

Was under impression anvil just 1 min cd on use damage trinket, where is ramp up mechanics there?

[clever crag]

You can chain pull anvil

[wild heart]

1 min cd but wverytime you hit it it does more damage

[grand idol]

Anvil gains more damage every time you use it

[wild heart]

And it ramps to 5 stacks

[grand idol]

Til you leave combat

[lost kernel]

Ohh missed that ty

[clever crag]

It ticks down when you leave combat

[lone imp]

The buff has a duration

[wild heart]

If you trust your tank. But dung like nokud and aa you will lose stacks between arenas

[lone imp]

when duration ends, so does stacks

[clever crag]

So with proper chain pull it can work

[somber lance]

OCE or Icon if Icon sims better?

[lost kernel]

So mythic bosses prefer anvil, with signet) iam right?

[lone imp]

The timer starts when you leave combat

[cloud lagoon]

I can finally play the game

Now I can sleep i pulled a allnighter for the quest

[clever crag]

Nice

[grand idol]

I thought you were the guy on the left.

[cloud lagoon]

Or maybe one more key...

[grand idol]

lol

[wild heart]

Its arguable icon iw better since it needs less people to use it. But its likely healer and tank will never use. So id sim what is better when none of the ally buffa are active

And if they are active you just get more damage coincidentally

[boreal quartz]

icon needs very specific ppl to use it

and at least our tank says the gain is lower than him equipping an augury

[somber lance]

ive simmed icon with 0 people using it and it still beats OCE

[wild heart]

By how much

[grand idol]

Fore sure check with who you are playing with (m+/raid) to see who plans to use what if you plan to use a bullion for either icon or oce.

[wild heart]

If its within like 3-4k id say oce is better

[boreal quartz]

did you select proper OCE stat

[tight iris]

on the rotation are you supposed to get off two overpowers before mortal strike or cleave?

[teal fossil]

on cd

[tight iris]

or is one good?

[somber lance]

doesnt really matter

[lilac fossil]

what kind of dmg you guys see on ST Target dummy

trying to practice my rotation before going into dung/raid

[grand idol]

I cant say ive hit a dummy more than long enough to see a de/buff in so long.

[nocturne wadi]

You can sim on raidbof for target dummy and compare to your damage ingame

[wooden tide]

is it worth to go BS on gnarl

[lilac fossil]

yeah I'm like 100k below lmao

[boreal quartz]

for me allstat to vers or haste was fucking LARGE

[boreal quartz]

id do wb or just fullsend boss

and hit a fatal into damage amp

[wooden tide]

yeah thats what i was thinking

[grand idol]

our cooldowns are so bad for gnarl I think you just let the optimal classes meme on him.

[nocturne wadi]

Sounds like a rotation issue. I am plus or minus 5-10k make sure your simming target dummy and in like 2 minute intervals and you can compare and see what the difference is

[lilac fossil]

ah yes weren't doing dummy

[wild heart]

Id say OCE is close enough to take it

[lilac fossil]

let me check that now

[wild heart]

Its more versatile too

[lone imp]

got a 6.4 fatal into smoldy yesterday

[wild heart]

You can change the stats depending on your gear

And other dps will likely have it woth different stats

[sacred zodiac]

i had an 8 mil fatality yday noob

[boreal quartz]

Remember paw hit a 10 into it last patch

[lone imp]

ur better woyer

[somber lance]

thanks

[lone imp]

wtf lol

10

[sacred zodiac]

hitting big fatalities isnt about being good at the game imma be real with you

[wild heart]

4 augs buffing him btw

[sacred zodiac]

have good rng timing and ebon might on u

[boreal quartz]

It's about running ashes

For a gimmick

[lone imp]

I goofed though I didn't save my trinket for that

[tiny dock]

where did you guys throw your embellishments on, neck wrist or boots?

[wild heart]

Does mastery affect it?

[boreal quartz]

Neck and legs for now

[boreal quartz]

Nah

[tiny dock]

boots right, or legs

[sacred zodiac]

depends on what you have

[wild heart]

Think ideally its neck wrist and boots

For lowest stat sacrfice

[boreal quartz]

I have BSL on legs and neck but will move to vers wrist later

Cant now since i got wrist from raid

[lone imp]

I think neck and ring for bsl might actually be best? No mainstat and are socketed

[wild heart]

Fatal mark on smold did 7 mil last night

[boreal quartz]

Ring was like week 1 bsl

At best

Now in a week or so it's troll int

[lone imp]

Oh I forget we have 2 giga rings

[boreal quartz]

Legs was a super strong intermediate

[lone imp]

I sent verst wrists first

[boreal quartz]

Since no assault ones dropped

Im glad sparks are done by the time next one arrives

[sharp wyvern]

i have achieved perfection #40402020

[boreal quartz]

Cuz you only ever use 2

[lone imp]

Didn't buy the bsl hooplah but now second craft is bsl neck

[sacred zodiac]

not 40 40 10 10

[sharp wyvern]

its 40 40 40 20 with puzzle box active

[boreal quartz]

40 40 40 10

[lilac fossil]

done dummy sim said 232k 2 min, but I ended up doing 299k. Prob doing something wrong in the sim, but does that sound about right?

[rare kite]

did you reach execute phase on the dummy? coz the sim doesn't do that

[wary raft]

did you also have full raid buffs on the sim? bc on dummies you donty have that

[teal fossil]

sim target dummy

[lilac fossil]

I did not have buffs at all + it was in exe phase already, just didn't use execute 😆

[teal fossil]

just sim target dummy on raidbots

then hit dummy for the same time

[fathom jetty]

So i've, like most people, recently switched to arms but i don't understand the opener quite well yet. Like, when do i bladestorm? 🤔

[hazy flower]

@latent moss

the perfect opener

when the lag hits you

xdddd

[gray steeple]

Except it’s not perfection. Not to the sims

[lilac fossil]

I did just that. For some reason the dummy sim shows 232k, but I can do 70k more with the same time so 300k

not complaining tbh will try it out in a raid

😆

[latent moss]

[grand idol]

make sure yo uare hitting the boss dummy. The higher the level the more armor your target has.

also, if youre using the valdrakken dummies its really easy to hit other things (like with random aoe, roar etc).

[nocturne wadi]

You probably have fatal mark and stuff procing since you around execute phase. Go to main city with not a lot of people hitting the dummy

[grand idol]

Fatal mark doesnt do anything either above or below execute

You have to experience both

[teal fossil]

^

[wary raft]

its not the difference hes thinking of but fatal mark definitely does the damage of the 1 stack applied if u ms if applied below the proc threshhold

[grand idol]

if its proccing after it says it shouldnt, thats a bug

Not saying it doesnt. but the ability says it supposed to stop completely after 30% (I think 30% is correct)

[wary raft]

its specifically in 30%

so u need massacre

but yea

I shouldve said execute not proc threshhold

incorrect verbiage on my part

[errant jackal]

Got Hero puzzle box on my first run of AA this week

[grand idol]

Very nice.

[errant jackal]

I am STOKED

[wary raft]

gratz

[errant jackal]

Thanks guys

[errant jackal]

why do you hate hurricane

[wary raft]

it, and other talents like it, turn bladestorm into a wagon for buffs as opposed to an ability that fucks all on it own

hurricane just has the most power associated to it so I point the gun at it

[nimble acorn]

why must Irideus tempt me so on the sims, grr

[slow saddle]

To be fair if they removed hurricane for Bladestorm, it could do way more dmg on its own

which would be more rewarding in gen

[novel hollow]

Cant wait for TWW hero talents

More fun, more choices

More C tier

[slow saddle]

Tbh looks more like ret reroll ngl

[wary raft]

hit the nail on the head

[slow saddle]

like i like dmg amps

but warrior's got a bit to many in arms atm

like EP - Martial prowess WB + Hurricane

its a bit to much

[wary raft]

I think EP and martial prowess are fine, I however dont like how centric to the roation overpower is currently

[slow saddle]

well

its the same issue

OP buffs and resets MS

so ofc u wanna hit OP

to reset ms

[wary raft]

I really enjoyed how pre 10.1.5 the rotation inside of CS(for wb) was slam as filler, and outside of that you pressed op as filler

[slow saddle]

hmm yeah i didnt

[wary raft]

that is battlelord, DN, SoA and other talents but yeah I agree for the most part, I wish OP was a bit less centric to our rotation rn

[teal fossil]

thats 10.0.5

but yeah

[wary raft]

err

yeah that was a mt

[slow saddle]

i actually think our rotation flows rather well atm

[wary raft]

meant 10.0.5

[teal fossil]

the problem with arms is, do you have cosmetic rage bar or cosmetic OP charges

[slow saddle]

i still think remove TOM

would help us just enjoy playstyle

and not having SOS also helps

[teal fossil]

without TOM the gameplay will be the same

[slow saddle]

nah

it will feel better

[teal fossil]

because AM is just as important if not more important than TOM