arms

[gaunt owl]

for nothing

no gain

[thick kelp]

Ppaww is it worth to press CS if boss is gonna die in 5 globals

[gaunt owl]

i'm keeping track of all the zugzug with their brilliant idea

always CS !

the less we think the more it's worth

[latent moss]

you almost turned into a mad scientist with fatality optimizations

:xdd:

[gaunt owl]

we did fatality optimize before smoldy boy

[thick kelp]

Delete fatality

or move it up

[gaunt owl]

it was so absolutly the rabbit hole of nothing

[muted sigil]

ah ok thanks, I know this is the arms channel but is this the same for Fury as well?

[latent moss]

it was possible to squeeze 0.5% dps

with multiple optimizations

[gaunt owl]

i couldnt get a fucking pi in my shit guild

j

[thick kelp]

you end up losin 5% dps

if u thikn the optimization

[gaunt owl]

we werent even the main character anyway

[thick kelp]

in pull

[inner wasp]

how do i bribe my priest to give me pi instead of the dk

[gaunt owl]

be Tmy

[thick kelp]

hit them with execute patchwerk

sim

with PI

[latent moss]

or taiste

[inner wasp]

whats the number im curious

[gaunt owl]

yeah or Taiste

[latent moss]

taiste deserves it

[thick kelp]

i have no clue

[latent moss]

[thick kelp]

I hve lost all hope

for PI

[gaunt owl]

Bloodmallet got the right number now

i've shittalking pretty much everybody

to make sure they got the right number

even when i was wrong

[latent moss]

the issue is that

pi is useless

[thick kelp]

bloodmallet doesnt have execute patchwerk part

[latent moss]

until exe pretty much

[gaunt owl]

because we have to keep everybody in check

[thick kelp]

[runic urchin]

wait so are we good PI targets? can i finally tell my healers to stop griefing?

[thick kelp]

once boss is past 35%

we are very good PI + aug target

[latent moss]

we are very good target in exe

[gaunt owl]

we are the 2nd best in execute IIRC

[inner wasp]

whos 1st

[runic urchin]

my guild currently sends PI on unholy, destro, and a devoker

[gaunt owl]

DK

[kind sonnet]

Unholy

[inner wasp]

dk always best

😔

[runic urchin]

i just know dev is trolling me taking a PI

[latent moss]

dev is highest

gain from pi

[thick kelp]

dev is best pi

[runic urchin]

(shut up nerds)

[latent moss]

ngl

im glad we arent pi targets

[inner wasp]

i wish i played an evoker

[gaunt owl]

Dev player fucking sux

anyway

[final zenith]

on the rotation section on wowhead guide it says during SS we can cleave at 4 and more targets with 2 stacks of martial prowess
but just below that it says during SS we can MS at 2 stacks of partial prowess at 4 or less targets.
so basically if there are 4 enemies and i have 2 stacks of MP i always just want to cleave now instead of MS?

[inner wasp]

i wanna do hold inputs

[latent moss]

imagine being balanced around an external

(assa rogue incident)

(unholy dk incident)

[gaunt owl]

fuck external BTW

[thick kelp]

p3 sarkareth

[latent moss]

we are balanced around windfury

and i hate it

[gaunt owl]

WFT PI ALL AND EVERYTHING

[fossil thistle]

Always PI target if you’re 15% ahead of everyone else

[gaunt owl]

blizzard dev

hire me

for 200k a year i fix your shit

[minor gust]

Can't wait to be even more WFT reliant in TWW

[latent moss]

i hate people who say

but what is enha gonna bring in raids then

[minor gust]

As well as wasting my mobility to charge weave

[latent moss]

what does ele bring rn

[gaunt owl]

ele is non existant

[latent moss]

ele literally brings nothing

[gaunt owl]

why would you take them

[fossil thistle]

Windfury

[gaunt owl]

its shit tier

[wind iron]

People still play ele?

[latent moss]

no matter how big the gap is

[knotty creek]

Got a feeling my crit is too high what do you think?

[fossil thistle]

For 0.1%

[latent moss]

enha by just pressing wf

contributes more

[latent moss]

i have 62%

u are good

[thick kelp]

444k dps but my execute crit chance looks like this on the pull

x D

[gaunt owl]

you never get enough of anything !

[fossil thistle]

If you had 40% haste why not

[minor gust]

Always said WFT needed to be in shaman class tree

[knotty creek]

I felt like

[latent moss]

62% crit 32% haste

rate my stats

[minor gust]

But blizzard cares to much about theme

[knotty creek]

50% was way to much

[fresh spire]

++helo what did i do

[knotty creek]

I still sim for 350k dps

so its fine

[fossil thistle]

Honestly 9.4/10 (94%.)

[thick kelp]

@gaunt owl

[midnight mural]

om nom nom on both Heroic and Mythic Smolderon

[runic urchin]

why do my weakaura and character page stats vary so much

[fossil thistle]

Sub 36% haste feels sluggish to me idk

[gaunt owl]

NOOOOOOOO

[runic urchin]

guys am i cooked

[fossil thistle]

Oogie boogie I wanna drop 4-5% haste and get more vers/mastery. Hopefully soon

[gaunt owl]

its not as simple as that now

with all those gear with extra effect on them

the bis is not gonna about stats

[minor gust]

Haste owns in ST you need more

[thick kelp]

Unbuffed

[jade basalt]

fat leech

[fossil thistle]

Yup mine is unbuffed as well.
Debating on dropping crit ring for more mastery cause with iced phial I’m sitting pretty high

[fossil thistle]

I’m far from Bis ATM.
No seal, S3 trinkets still. I know a lot will change but I’m still playing S3 mentality right now

[fossil thistle]

😄 sim keeps wanting me to drop haste for ST Parchwerk

[astral yarrow]

im so close to 40/40/40/20 meme, but yet so far

[dire hinge]

sorry was in a key, but yes, that's more than ok

[minor gust]

I'm at 46% haste and my sims want more

[lethal pendant]

lil cursed stats

[bold jolt]

how much are u guys simming at ST

[thick kelp]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gtv5iewoXGHENvZPL4Hxsy

[fossil thistle]

337k PW with S3 trinkeys

[astral yarrow]

what. the. fuck.

[somber lance]

351k with s3 trinkets. 511 ilvl

[thick kelp]

[fossil thistle]

Pretty close to mee 😮

[astral yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/luck-spoon-spoonful-gif-21555303

[astral yarrow]

mate that is the most spooned shit ive seen lol

its Wallife levels of spoon

[thick kelp]

its not

Tmy level of spoon

Also only OCE + diurna drop ring

are from raid

I vaulted icon + bullioned eranogg ring

[bold jolt]

im 518 and only at 375k

[astral yarrow]

how bad is tmy

it cant be worse than that lol

[bold jolt]

how does this look?

[thick kelp]

[bold jolt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mhpuoJvPPa55dhottKCxp4 feel like its real low for my ilvl

any helpers? what stats I need

[astral yarrow]

i only see cloak susge

[thick kelp]

he linked a sim

wher he crafts with the 2nd highest tier for 2nd bsl

and then spends aspects for ups

and he is 410k sim

[dire hinge]

this is better than any parse

[thick kelp]

[minor gust]

Mog check

[fossil thistle]

Asking for a friend.

[gusty oxide]

baby ilvl500 stats :

[fossil thistle]

Don’t worry you’ll drop all your crit/haste/mastery and get 27% vers like the most of us 🫠🫠

[gusty oxide]

This week i get dirnua's chsoen, so that will be a bit of vers

[fossil thistle]

it begins

[thick kelp]

Missing 2nd embellishement, you have like 0 haste pieces and you are simming your OCE set to give you crit

[fossil thistle]

I feel like it’s just cause S1 had a lot of verse? Maybe? With more options it balances out.
Week 1 I just had a ton of verse

[bold jolt]

currently at 5146 haste. Should I aim for higher?

[thick kelp]

SIm your top gear and droptimizer for yourself

but yes, I am at nearly 8k haste without any buffs

[bold jolt]

so geneally focus on haste and crit it seems

new to warrior so thanks

[thick kelp]

yeah but best bet is to sim droptimizer for your HC / Mythic raid

and sim dungoen droptimizer

Also get your 2nd craft

we haev 2 sparks as of this week

[bold jolt]

yes I need to do that

[chrome wharf]

puzzlebox

[fossil thistle]

My normal raid set is 7261 (42%) with food buff and crit rune

Buuut like I said my sims always have me regemming out of haste for more mastery or crit 🤷🏻‍♂️

[thick kelp]

stats and gear are unique for everyone

so thats why it is said to follow your own sims

[fossil thistle]

Yeass

I do 😄 except 174dps gains at the cost of regemming everything

[dire hinge]

that sounds like margin of error dps

[fossil thistle]

My thought exactly

If I remember how to maths it’s typically wanting me to gain 0.03-0.04% dps at the cost of my lucrative golds

[broken ruin]

u should read how much margin of error means

0.0 whatever is never worth it

[dire hinge]

tbh anything that isn't green i usually don't do

blue improvements are very close to just simulation variance

[fossil thistle]

Yea I do 2x accurate or whatever.
It lists it as 0.0% lol

[fossil thistle]

Yea last season I was regemming every week based off new sim without getting new gear (big dumb)
This season I’ll only do it if it’s over 0.5%

Also when legendary raidbots subscription I need 64m iterations.

[short briar]

why is icon simming higher for me than eranog ring

wth

[fossil thistle]

Do you have a way to proc ring?

[short briar]

axe

[gray steeple]

are you simming icon with full group or solo?

[short briar]

its droptimzer

ahh

i see what you mean

[loud lance]

I just got miiror, is it better to proc it crit or haste ?

[short briar]

its still simming higher

wth

[gray steeple]

Sim it

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-do-it-evil-kermit-hood-gif-16437143

[short briar]

im still buying sark back prolly

[sacred zodiac]

you're buying sark back over eranog ring?

[short briar]

i want it man

[sacred zodiac]

you are cooked

[strange perch]

Does DN proc class trinket? I was doing some testing and it seemed like it did

[short briar]

its like a 1% dps difference

[nimble yoke]

stupid question but i don't have the leggo and i don't really intend to get it since i don't have the gold for that (and season 4 lol), will i still be competitive with other specs and other warrs?

[sacred zodiac]

it does

[strange perch]

Ty. Making sure I wasn’t loosing my mind.

[short briar]

i mean idk if i suck or not but usually its around 7-8% of my total dps

at the end of a key

[thick kelp]

if u play arms u can compete with the bottom barrel specs but vs warriors with leggo u are out of luck

[fossil thistle]

Without legendary, you might still be above a fury warrior

I SAID IT

[strange perch]

Even after buff?

[short briar]

yes

arms still beats fury

after buff

[thick kelp]

fury isnt that far behind atleast on simulation craft

in bis gear

[short briar]

[strange perch]

I meant without Lego VRs one with it lol

[nimble yoke]

ye it's just that it costs so much gold (from what i remember) and i'll likely be playing more mop remix rather than season 4 anyways

[short briar]

@sacred zodiac this is what i mean

its not rly that big of a dif

between ring and sark back

[nimble yoke]

just wish you could get the leggo with dinars, even just a temporary version that disappears (including the mog) after the season is over

[thick kelp]

Like its one of the better st specs here :xdd

[sacred zodiac]

what the fuck are you simming

[strange perch]

That cape is just a good way to die lol

[thick kelp]

10 target patchwerk

[sacred zodiac]

hold up im gonna sim 2 seconds 5 targets to determine my upgrades

[fossil thistle]

It’s about 170k now. A guildie just made it last night

[sacred zodiac]

apparently beacon is bis guys?

[short briar]

5 min

5 targets

[sacred zodiac]

what are you trying to optimize with an aoe sim like that

[fossil thistle]

So what you’re saying is.. a fury warrior is a smidge above an arms without legendary? 👀

[sacred zodiac]

if you wanna optimize m+ gear then you will never buy sark cloak

[short briar]

i mean unless ur pushing high keys then sark back isnt bad is it?

[thick kelp]

can u find me 5min 5 target pull

from current dungeons

[short briar]

[silk spade]

signet brand bis!!!!!!!

5 min 5 t

[sacred zodiac]

ya zhai

[nimble yoke]

that would be all of the gold on my account but

it is gold i have...

so maybe...

[sacred zodiac]

first step is getting it no

[nimble yoke]

well yes of course

but none of this even matters if i don't get it so i'm working with that assumption lol

[thick kelp]

Just buy 7 mythic kills and its yours guaranteed

[fossil thistle]

I’ll even donate 2000g to you

[nimble yoke]

i just wish it had a chance to drop from all 3 raids rather than just the one in s4

real stupid

[sacred zodiac]

i wonder if mythic is facerollable with gear next week

[nimble yoke]

i'll take that

[thick kelp]

it kinda already is this week

[nimble yoke]

gets me some repairs once i toss away all my gold LMAO

[sacred zodiac]

ye for pugs i mean on non awakened

[fossil thistle]

Are you US or EU

[thick kelp]

ah prolly not

tindral will gatekeep

all pugs

[sacred zodiac]

p2 is too much of a shitshow i think

[drifting heart]

D'you guys know if Gnarlroot is bugged or smth ?
I almost had 100% of my Mortal Strike being crit did that happened to you aswell ?

[sacred zodiac]

ya ok tindral is impossible ye

[thick kelp]

That is called arms skill expression

[fossil thistle]

Tier set brother

[thick kelp]

gz u high rolled

[sacred zodiac]

drop the log and ping paw he might respond in all caps

[drifting heart]

like wtf

[thick kelp]

Its another

Frappe mortelle

[sacred zodiac]

not the frappe mortelle man ffs

[fossil thistle]

Don’t frappe me bro

[thick kelp]

@gaunt owl Look at this skill expression

[drifting heart]

was that just pure luck ? 🤣

[sacred zodiac]

ye

[drifting heart]

I swear I thought it was bug

Im around 40% crit when I saw 85 I was like wtf is this

[thick kelp]

This is why i disabled damage numbers

I cant tilt when i see 0 crits

[drifting heart]

ngl when i saw that 1 mil 200k MS it felt super good

[fossil thistle]

Always be top on meters with my free tips.

• set yourself to always display on top
• only show one row.

[astral yarrow]

I lose all feel for ww, bs and cleave range if I don’t have damage number s

[sacred zodiac]

random ass log i pulled up

crazy !!!

[thick kelp]

From my volcross tonite

[dire hinge]

40% crit, but then your 2p gives specifically Mortal Strike (and cleave) 10% more

[bleak scaffold]

Can the leggo axe drop on non empowered weeks/ increase the drop chance?

[thick kelp]

yes

[dire hinge]

yuppers

[fossil thistle]

Yes

[spare goblet]

https://wago.io/gDJ5XzNk1 Can anyone tell me if there is something like this, but updated? Puts spell reflect in chat

[drifting heart]

well i'm not gonna complain, it's been more than a year since last time arms warrior felt THAT good

[spare goblet]

This one does not work.

[dire hinge]

a cursory search of "spell reflect" on wago.io showed this as a top result, it might be a good alternative, and it was updated more recently. I dont use it myself so i can't vouch for it, for transparency https://wago.io/o0cXhDjMD

[proud plover]

this works fine

i use it

[tough steppe]

Hunter got offline because of a power outage

[spare goblet]

Just tested it in a duel to no effect

[tough steppe]

I still don't know what to craft this week

[proud plover]

you 100% surre its loaded in settings?

[tough steppe]

Either boots or wrists with vers

[lament fjord]

is 2x BSL bugged on profile?

ingame

[proud plover]

and this is correct?

[thick kelp]

make yourself dip below 90% hp and heal back up

it wil activate 2nd bsl

[lament fjord]

wtf is this game man

[thick kelp]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spare goblet]

Yes sir

[proud plover]

going to find a mob to reflect something cause it works fine for me

[thick kelp]

might be only set to load in dungeons

[fossil thistle]

I find unequipping and equipping it again fixes it as well

[lament fjord]

nah unequipping makes it weird

[proud plover]

preretty surre by default its set to load on all 3 warrior specs as only load condition

[lament fjord]

it goes down and then goes back to original value

[tough steppe]

Everyone here using Torc of Passed Time?

[gray steeple]

Is anyone? That's the question

[dire hinge]

i am 🙂

[tough steppe]

ESL mate

[proud plover]

worrks forr me

[spare goblet]

Neither this one or the one posted from @dire hinge work

If it's from wago, it does not work

I tried players and mobs

it loads in all 3 specs

[dire hinge]

works for me

just installed it

[proud plover]

got to be a setting

[spare goblet]

there is no way it specifically doesn't work for me. I don't get it.

[dire hinge]

probably a conflict with another addon

[spare goblet]

What caster mobs did you all use?

[tough steppe]

is there a way to add BSL to a crafted item in raidbots?

[dire hinge]

neltharus add

[sacred zodiac]

click the plus on the item

[proud plover]

just a rando mob in halls of lightning cause im doing the 10.2.7 'content' lol

[tough steppe]

[proud plover]

the one i use posts any reflect or deflect in /say and another line if it did any damage with the damage posted also

handy to know if you reflected a debuff that didnt do any damage

[spare goblet]

Just tested it again still nothing

[proud plover]

eg last nokud boss you can reflect every debuff so healer doesnt need to dispeell

[spare goblet]

I need to know this information and I physically can't access it..so frustrating

[proud plover]

goto 'load' tab and look

[spare goblet]

Only thing checked.

[proud plover]

sjould be these settings

[flat grotto]

We did it boys!!!!!!

[spare goblet]

It's actually perfect. I checked everything

[proud plover]

big grats

[spare goblet]

It just doesnt work. there is no reason.

[flat grotto]

Thanks!! 😄

[silk spade]

she incantation on my frappe until I mortelle

[spare goblet]

Can you export code and send me in DM?

[sacred zodiac]

mde sure your weakauras are up to date etc

[proud plover]

this wa hasnt been updated in foreveer but still worrks for me

[sacred zodiac]

i mean idk their wa version might be from legion or smth

probably solved by turning it off and on again

[proud plover]

true doubt they arent running latest wa version tho

[spare goblet]

Used the code you gave me. On 5.13.1, does NOT work still

what.....is going on....

[tough steppe]

🤔 this might take a while

[spare goblet]

Does yours look like this?

I get this graphic not chat

[proud plover]

yes

[dire hinge]

that seems like a different weakaura, maybe the one causing the conflict

[proud plover]

that one is from spell reeflect essentials

[prisma heart]

can anyone explain why we go 3x execute -> MS or 2x execute -> OP -> MS when the apl says "mortal_strike,if=debuff.executioners_precision.stack=2"? doesnt that imply to MS after 2 stacks of EP?

my brain too smooth for this

[spare goblet]

I don't have spell reflect essentials downloaded anymore.

[proud plover]

wait no it not thats the wa working - just not posting it in chat for somee reason

[proud plover]

goto dm so we dont spam arms chat

[prisma heart]

"execute,if=rage>=40" is less prio than MS with 2x EP accoring to apl

[spare goblet]

Gotcha.

[dire hinge]

if MS resets itself via Exhilirating Blows and you have 2x EP stack you can send MS by all means

[prisma heart]

ooooh i see

my brain so smooth lmfaoooooooo

its the ms cooldown

[dire hinge]

haha you're fine, it's a good callout. You will spend more rage this way, so you can still do the OP in there to help smooth out your rage, but you're correct that the APL would mean send MS if it resets itself and you have those stacks

[vivid sleet]

do we trust dungeon slice? how do we sim for keys?

[dire hinge]

ie: MS (proc, resets itself) -> Execute -> Execute -> MS

[prisma heart]

thank you

[dire hinge]

of course!

[gray steeple]

all M+ sims are sus to begin with but apparently DS is ok for Arms

[dire hinge]

dungeon slice is fine yes. There's a few ways to sim for m+ but it's an imperfect science.

[vivid sleet]

ty fellow chads

[fathom void]

hi guys do they nerfed the Bladestorm - fyralath - puzzlebox makro? i cant use it at mthe same time
nakro dosent work

[gray steeple]

doesn't work

[drifting widget]

given the option: do we want leech or avoidance for teritary?

[gray steeple]

speed

always speed

[drifting widget]

well that is not an option....aoidance or leech?

[tough steppe]

I sent that 20 minutes ago and the sim is still going

[proud plover]

hope its worth more than 2% dps for you tho!

[tough steppe]

[languid burrow]

Hey guys, need help with deciding on my 2nd Bullion purchase (already got scale for leggo axe)
I already have Incarn trinket and puzzy B

[fair tinsel]

Diurna ring perhaps

The dam one

[outer holly]

I'm going rings with the hope that fury gets buffed until I don't have to play arms tbh

[languid burrow]

Yeah, was just wondering if there was anything else just as good of a choice as ring

[proud plover]

ring is 1% damage in both st and aoe

buy it if you neeed the ring ilvl and stats

[languid burrow]

True, i do need the ring ilvl

[proud plover]

im not happy with its damage but im very happy to have rreplaced my 483 rring

[nova marsh]

That's the reason I got it

Damage is p mid, but replacing a 483 is kinda giga

Oh also

Diruna ring is p baller

Highest ilvl ring for the season and you get a neat free shield

[proud plover]

diruna ring is off erranog, filial duty ring is from dirruna

[quick marlin]

i'm about to pull the trigger on the eranog ring with my 2nd bullion purchase after upgrading the leggo, i'll have a third purchase avail tonight. i have a hero track broodkeeper ring in the vault, but also a mythic track cloak. is the broodkeeper ring worth? i am kinda squishy 🙂

[proud plover]

yes its alot of frree absorbs to help keep your bsl uptime high

[quick marlin]

(also apologies if i missed alot I am running in here right before raid haha)

[quick marlin]

good point. not using BSL just yet but plan on converting to it once i have crests

[proud plover]

i tanked with bsl on lol

[tough steppe]

[proud plover]

grats

[tough steppe]

It was a 3.4% difference

[proud plover]

yuge

[tough steppe]

Just the wrist craft alone gives me 3.1%

yea, i'm gonna get the wrist this week

[proud plover]

vers bracer?

[tough steppe]

yep

[gilded kraken]

can the cosmic ink and the hides for the leggo be any quality?

[sacred zodiac]

iirc ye

[sacred zodiac]

good obliterate the noobers

make us proud

[lament sable]

hey lads what trinket should i buy for m+?

[nova marsh]

Realistically? sim

But the top one for keys I've seen is call to chaos. Weather you want to play with that is up to u thou

[rare kite]

Call to chaos is pretty safe to pick unless you're planning on doing the highest of keys. It will kill you then

[sacred zodiac]

i didnt know ctc has a feedback effect lol

[nova marsh]

You take 5% more damage when it procs

[violet steeple]

Ye you dont want it for high keys, it's a giga pumper in low to mid though

[nova marsh]

Which in high keys can be....extremely deterimental to say the least

If ur not really planning on pushing beyond weekly key levels it's also a very safe investment

[proud plover]

ima ctually thining anvil/augury forr keys!

[runic urchin]

hey guys i got puzzle box i assume i send it before i press any other button right

[proud plover]

yeah

pb > charge > stuff - 30 secs coveres all your stuff

[daring latch]

Question, I have both Puzzle Box and Fragment… which one does everyone say to use?

[proud plover]

pb > frag cause pb gets full value for 30 secs and frag loses a stack every timee you attack

[daring latch]

ahhhhh ok ok that’s awesome! thank you!

is it smart to macro avatar and pb together?

[proud plover]

yuo cant

[opal folio]

No

[proud plover]

it has its own gcd now

[opal folio]

If you want go that route, fragment is for you

[weak saffron]

What triggers Eranog's ring for us? Legendary?

[proud plover]

ANY fire damage

[daring latch]

Gotcha makes sense!

thanks yall

[hybrid sinew]

so i never did smolderon as arms, any tips for the timings

[sacred zodiac]

isnt it identical to how you played s3 fury or

[proud plover]

only did heroic but send everything on cd and preyed it lined up for p2

shits so fast these days holding is a loss

[pale ginkgo]

Mythic Smolderon as Arms after playing as Fury last season is so painful lol

[sacred zodiac]

just press sr you'll be fine

[coarse oxide]

Everything on pull, get pushed to the edge of the platform and back to hitting the boss before catching your balls on intermissions (critcake made a guide thingy on that in s3 if i remember correctly)

[hybrid sinew]

ok, so that was fury though

is it the same schitck for arms

[outer holly]

Yep, zero diff between fury and arms other than you're not capable of self healing through eating a fire floor

[hybrid sinew]

do you want to delay

[coarse oxide]

Yup same for arms

[hybrid sinew]

cause i would imagine the OF timings are differennt then the CS timings

yeah i def wont eat the fire as arms

[outer holly]

CS has something like 95% uptime on ST fights without intermissions, no need to time it, just keep it rolling

CS+TOM I mean

[hybrid sinew]

ok, ibh, i was never great at smolderon, i was always like 1 gcd off, could never fix it

[coarse oxide]

It'll line up eventually, just hold it if you're like a few seconds off intermission but otherwise send it

[outer holly]

Yeah first intermission they won't be perfect, but it's timed to get better every time he transitions

[hybrid sinew]

yeah, i dont think i'd care, but this raid has been wayyyyy harder then the last two, even w/ more gear

and word ont he street is smolder is a truckin

so i figured i should actually ask and try to figure it out hehe

[cursive estuary]

Ive wondered why does Arms not run Fyrakk crit trinky

[nova marsh]

Proc rate is mid

We have better options and I believe fury likes it more because it does a lot of smaller hits

Espically with rampage

[cursive estuary]

I see

🔥

[novel canyon]

finally got the leggo axe, and now I owe money to the mafia

[molten crane]

duringopener / CS, should you prioritize thunderclap / slam over overpower to spend more rage, to get higher ToM?

[gilded kraken]

same

speaking of which if any inscription gigachads are in chat i need one and trade chat is dedge

eu silvermoon

[flat grotto]

Do you need to kill fyrakk 14 times on heroic to get 100% or could you kill him say 13 times on normal and then 7 times on heroic and the 7th time would be 100% does anyone get what im saying? so 13 normal kills is 6.3% drop chance.... then from 6%-100% with 7 heroic kills (Assuming they are done in different weeks)

[mild hound]

what weapon enchant does the sims assume w arms?

[reef glade]

i would imagine it counts up from the lowest of each bracket

[mild hound]

rune*

[reef glade]

so 13 normals is about 6%, and 7 heroics from scratch is about also 6%, so it'd add together probably

be like ... 12-13%

heroic doesnt start ramping until literally week 14 is 30% and week 15 its 100%

so like any combinations of normal + heroic almost never gonna be that impactful

[reef glade]

idk what default is but most people run either buzzing/howling

so u can pick yourself and maybe try either or

but "general" rule of thumb pick the one you have the least of between crit and haste

maybe not always applicable but idk i got like 49% crit and 43% haste so i ust use haste

[molten crane]

my sims have always hard pushed me towards haste, no matter how much haste i had

[reef glade]

oh jk i have 50% crit now with crit phial

wtf lol

wonk as shit

[dire hinge]

ToM loves haste

[tough steppe]

isn't that item like, a bait?

[smoky kayak]

huge

[smoky kayak]

it's good if you pull very fast/regularly, but kinda hard to maintain otherwise

[tough steppe]

i see

[reef glade]

damn that shits 3500 haste now

pri crazy

def not like a high priority craft most likely but def gonna be fun to use later in the season maybe

[scarlet root]

I mostly play Mplus is frost fire legs good pick over shadow flame belt?

[reef glade]

probably gonna be more value than shadowflame but u could also blue silken lining thats best of both worlds i think

dungeon slice prolly only realistic way to sim pants if you rly want to

cuz on patchwerk it wouldnt last that long

but i think dslice has you attacking new targets often

[dire hinge]

oooo grats on leech

[scarlet root]

Got mine with speed

[deft osprey]

what embellishments should we take?

bracers of friendship, blue silken lining or shadowflame?

[verbal marten]

do arms warriors stagger their smoldy orbs at edge of room?

like fury

or not

[scarlet root]

Unstable frostfire belt sims high anyone try it

[lone imp]

I didn’t

I was trying it but it never felt right so I just said fuck it

[minor gust]

yes you stagger your orbs still

ur cds are the same as fury

[reef glade]

i mean yea

still 90s avatar

see no reason not to

even if its not as strong cds

rather have balls during more avatar than not no

[verbal marten]

ok ty ive been doing it more

like fury

[lone imp]

Eh idk I didnt like it

[verbal marten]

cuz i didnt do this fight as arms

although it feesl like u lose alot of dmg

just staggering them

[lone imp]

I did it on fury but I ain’t standing in spear on arms making big use of them

[verbal marten]

arms also cant stand in the fire

like fury could

[lone imp]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bcJ96y8adhmZtWQg#fight=6&type=damage-done

[minor gust]

stack cds is smoldy

if ur not ur losing

[scarlet root]

Have you simed unstable frostfire it’s a 13500 dps gain

[lone imp]

Wat

Are you doing a 3 embellishment sim by any chance

[scarlet root]

No im not

[reef glade]

did you do dungeon slice

or in what

cuz i mean its not like its impossible it looks good there but it should never be good on patchwerk

[scarlet root]

Patchwork 5 target say s 13.5k patchwork with 1 days 10k

[timber girder]

link the sim maybe?

[reef glade]

[scarlet root]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aDgUHU4f7hTc5iLh6Zo7MV

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vnKodKyWKAtFX4gXxHDsed

alnost 7 k for patchwork 1 bos

[timber girder]

the only other embelishment i see in the first sim are frostfire legs, ofc an embelishment is better than no embelishment 😄

and lariat but you dont have enough sockets for it to sim good obv

[reef glade]

oh

yeah

u cant sim embells on droptimizer

cuz it doesnt know to put other embellishments in

if u typed in those pants vs blue silken lining pants into top gear thing it prolly wont look the same

[scarlet root]

Ahh ok so shadowflame prob sims higher?

[reef glade]

blue silken lining the highest im sure

but sfp is close enough on single target

just not as good in m+

[cloud lagoon]

I did not sleep the whole night one more superbloom

[smoky kayak]

p sure it's because your'e replacing a 509 belt

and all your other gear is like 512-521

also the profession droptimizer doesn't add embellishments, so that's not simming BSL, etc - only inbuilt ones

[smoky kayak]

2nd BSL is almost certainly higher, although I've heard reports that it likes to bug sometimes when you have two of them, and Vers wrist is only like 0.3% behind for me, so I'm sticking with that

[scarlet root]

Thanks for clearing that up for me

[smoky kayak]

Also dunno if you noticed but your your BSL uptime at 0% and Corrupted Rage uptime is at 10%

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dYRawEJShjSwwqK7EgcUL9

There's a direct comparison of Frostfire vs a BSL belt; it's not far behind, but if you put BSL on a weaker piece and got a comparable belt upgrade, it could be even better

[scarlet root]

Oh so bsl belt is definitely better than the frostfire legs

[smoky kayak]

we were looking at belt not legs, but yeah

[scarlet root]

Sorry yeah that’s what I mean and you said that that’s with bsl with 0% uptime?

[fading isle]

fastest +9 neltharus in my life 18 min

sadly i'm the ret, but i'm happy for the warrior

[lost kernel]

Guys how arms doing in s4? Raids and m+? We meta or same shit like in s3? Stopped playing on 7/9 myth last season

[frigid lava]

we above average

[lost kernel]

So its same s3 stuff)

[latent hull]

Our dmg is pretty good but we still lack utility

[frigid lava]

slightly better than s3

[latent hull]

I didnt play s3 but arms looks to be pumping rn

Crit peaked 6mil dps in first pull algerath

[latent hull]

Or well didnt play s3 arms

[lost kernel]

Cant judge it coz i dont know how other classes pump))

[latent hull]

Well we are at the top of the dps meters in raids

We were 4th im abberus i think

In*

[thorn sentinel]

i am wrong or dosnt arms warrior on wowhead have a priority list ?

[manic stirrup]

it does

[thorn sentinel]

wtf

[minor gust]

look in the section called rotation

[steady plover]

just spam warbreaker,colo smash > Mortal strike > overpower , if aoe you have cleave and WW more

[reef glade]

guys

think i just owned council

also everyone in my raid just dcd lol what

[minor gust]

sounds like council just owned you guys

[reef glade]

not sure why it says 98 tho

unless theres some other hidden logs that arent showing up on overall like mine isnt

[hallow warren]

during execute phase, should i do Execute > Execute > Execute > Mortal strike, or should i do Execute > Execute > Overpower > Mortal Strike (for 2x exec precision and 1 martial prowess)?

[reef glade]

you do the first one if you have enough rage, and if you dont the second one yeah

you WANT to hit 3 executes but its not always possible

so both of those are the right answer

assuming pure st and you have juggernaut not sure if 3rd exe is still priority in like m+ st execute phase without having juggernaut

probably still good tho

[hallow warren]

reason i asked is because i figured exec precision only stacks twice, so doing it a 3rd time instead of hitting overpower and getting a stack of martial prowess seems like it would do less dmg

[smoky kayak]

direct damage vs buff damage

[reef glade]

yea thats the thing i was thinking about for m+ maybe that's the case

but for raid specifically ashen juggernaut exe does a lot more damage and also contributes to test of might/am more

so its just way better if you can

[hallow warren]

what does that mean?

[reef glade]

the direct damage of execute is worth more than ms being buffed by an extra 30% damage

[hallow warren]

like the extra execute does more dmg than the martial prowess adds to MS?

[reef glade]

which isnt the only comparison but its the like basic understanding

yeah

[hallow warren]

ok

thanks

[reef glade]

its a little more with the extra value to tom/am but essentially just 3 exe if u can and its good

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, it's a combination of factors; direct damage, how much you're getting out of the extra buff, returns on AM/ToM, avoiding overcapping during Reck, etc

2ex/op rotation is a lot cleaner though, and not a major damage loss, so if you find yourself getting overwhelmed, it's easy to fall back on

[weak saffron]

Hey guys, in AA first pull, with full AOE Spec, what is our opener? Should I press WB before Avatar and Bladestorm? What about TR?

I'm currently doing:

TC > Avatar > WB > TR > Bladestorm.

[trim niche]

Had an emergency earlier and can't find my question. What single trinket can I grab with bullions that will be strong in M+ for Arms and also Prot

[proud plover]

tc >avatar > roar > wb > bs - deleted the rest cause confusing

[reef glade]

honestly u prolly dont even need to tc

that gigantic pull

[plush belfry]

How come we don't cleave before BS?

Just to get the buff

[reef glade]

at least it was something i heard biz mention like once before in s1

you def should cleave b4 bs

[plush belfry]

I tend to

[reef glade]

passing up free 8% dam and crit

no reason not to

[plush belfry]

OK good. No one seems to mention it in prio's haha

More important than rend tc imo (feelycraft)

[reef glade]

yea rend only goes on 5 targets

so in the case of a 100 target pull in algethar

dont think worth much to tc

right away

maybe just to get a dot on a big elite or two

[proper estuary]

what means this ?

the All i dont understand#

[abstract creek]

All other buffs active

So you have emerald and your allies have the others

[proper estuary]

I see

[wary raft]

u need other people with the trinket that have the other buffs selected

[proper estuary]

So only worth in raid and not M+

[thorn sentinel]

i know that rotation addon is bad but if i needed to choice hekili herorotation or maxdps with one is better ?

[tiny dock]

might be a stupid question, sry but I'm hella new to this crafting order system, but if I craft an item with crit/haste am i locked into that? or can I recraft the item with a different set of stat lines?

[proper estuary]

u can recraft

[tiny dock]

sweet, thx

[trim niche]

Dumb question, hit the target dummies for a little, side arm is doing 1% of my damage where whirlwind is doing 9-10%. Why not get seismic reverb? +50% to 10% of my damage is way more than 1%

[chilly wind]

I know this is a bit old but I am returning after a few months break. If I already killed fyrakk on lfr this week, will I still have a chance if I kill him on hc?

for the legendary

[jade basalt]

Yes, for a serious amount

Lfr drop chances are nothing

[dire hinge]

yes, tldr with the lego is that you only need to kill it once a week on the highest difficulty you can

it snowballs all of your drop chances for the lower difficulties up into your single kill

so if you kill it on Heroic it's equal to killing it on LFR+Normal+Heroic for the week, all at once

[bleak fog]

So last night I ran my first 12, had like 10 min left on last boss in azure and think we had like 1 death untill then (healer).. On last boss healer died twice and left with like 7 min left and blamed it on me.. I stod at the boss so he had to take risks so he died.. Im not 100% sure how that boss goes on, but aint it just... Stay away from blobbs, frontal and kill hardened crystal insta then rest??

Could I on some way killed that healer for being close to the boss? 😄

On a side note I took the lowest dmg in dungeon by alot allso on last boss.

[dire hinge]

yeah, that boss is just dodge circles and kill all the shards before their cast ends (starting with the large crystal)

the only thing you could have caused would be baiting a breath towards them, but... that's hardly reason to rage a key

[plush belfry]

Super misleading tooltip. Reverb only applies that to the last tick of whirlwind

[trim niche]

Ahh that's why it barely simmed higher

[dire hinge]

yeh, WW hits 3 times, talents means you'd hit 3.3 times basically

[plush belfry]

So it ends up being % of a tick, not the whole whirlwind.

[dire hinge]

also sidearm works in all content, whether or not you're in single target or aoe, it's decent damage for a single talent that you never have to think about

[steep osprey]

what do you guys play for council

WB? CS?

same ST build?

[frigid lava]

I'm thinking WB

you are cleaving the entire time.

oh u mean... that council...

I probably take cs :0

[opaque citrus]

There’s 2 councils but ye assuming Amirdrassil I don’t think you change anything

Just play ST

[nocturne thistle]

Imp sweep perhaps?

[opaque citrus]

Yeah that’s the one change

[reef glade]

i dropped fatal mark and took exhil

fatal mark ass imo

for that fight

but exhil and imp ss

goes hard asf

[opaque citrus]

I think I did the same or maybe put another Bloodvorne point

But Eb prob better

[steep osprey]

I am talking about the current one

[reef glade]

i cannibalized my build from what gajeel did cuz trust him the most

except he had fatal mark

and no BB

[steep osprey]

I died on council

[reef glade]

and i mathsed out and decided 1 bb better than fatal

and it worked out

[steep osprey]

charged aerywenn while urctos was frontaling

[reef glade]

beat current r1 by 25k

[steep osprey]

gg

what's wrong with hte rankings in amri

they're empty

[reef glade]

idk they kinda weird im not showing up until lockins

not sure why

also owned nymue apparently

crazy how far a pi goes i guess

top dps in raid tax i guess, since the other impromptu "pi receivers" took breaks

[steep osprey]

man these tanks

are trolling

facing bear boss

on the raid

[reef glade]

[steep osprey]

what am i doing

should i need pips

[reef glade]

[outer holly]

And abandon your ruby whelp?

rude

[steep osprey]

i don't have a ruby whelp

actually i sold it

lmao

[proud plover]

pretty sure we all veendored theem

[steep osprey]

real stanke???

where's uhledigt

tell me

volcoross can't parry me

[errant bough]

parry deez

[steep osprey]

[errant bough]

where are u

[steep osprey]

I'm the first guy

[errant bough]

no their name isn't box

[steep osprey]

Unfortunate

[errant bough]

if ur name isn't lore accurate to your discord it's not you

[steep osprey]

I prefer RP names on my chars

so they all have that

[proud plover]

keeps all the toon names in a box labled 'RP' - fits for me

[steep osprey]

are you sneak dissing me

[proud plover]

nope

[steep osprey]

susge

should i play fury on larodar

[thick kelp]

no

[steep osprey]

or arms st

[errant bough]

box what are your thoughts about the inn

[proud plover]

arms st

[steep osprey]

the what

[errant bough]

the inn

[steep osprey]

I think it's fine

what about you

[errant bough]

I think it has a lot of draenei so it's cool

[quasi torrent]

slander

[steep osprey]

Oh you're talking about Goldshire

[errant bough]

the inn

[steep osprey]

STOP SAYING THE INN!!

[errant bough]

the Inn.

[steep osprey]

Have you ever been to the Inn

[errant bough]

yes

[steep osprey]

How was it

[errant bough]

fun

[astral yarrow]

Uwu

[errant bough]

friend and I went there as 2 male paladins who were brothers and drunk and lost their way

ended up having like 20 people around the table

[astral yarrow]

Is your friend @halcyon breach

[steep osprey]

sounds like a great time

[astral yarrow]

Sounds like something he’d do

[steep osprey]

Basezi

[steady plover]

@astral yarrow @steep osprey ya box and Aagaard i have been wondering do you have decent friends like critcake i mean he always been playing with that ret paladin Qarva and the resto shaman laren for years , do you guys have m+ buddies that you enjoy playing with for 3-5 hours ?

[steep osprey]

Or Basedzi

[steep osprey]

I don't have buddies

sadge

[steady plover]

it's impossible , yo sayin someone with great knowledge like you most likely spend his time on pugs only

[hallow vale]

Yeah but they dont want to play since im a warrior and im not meta

kekw

[astral yarrow]

M+ is a meme I don’t partake in

[hallow vale]

they preffer fotm pugs

[daring heron]

Aagaard has me as long time friend

[astral yarrow]

I hear critkek was a big gamer in s2

[astral yarrow]

[daring heron]

box too i guess

[steady plover]

warrior buddies

[astral yarrow]

[steep osprey]

YOU GUESS??

[manic stirrup]

yeah u smell bad

[steep osprey]

[manic stirrup]

gottem

[steep osprey]

You kow what, that's ok

all I can ask for

[zinc burrow]

noob question, how do we proc eranog ring?

[steep osprey]

holy shit

[fading sage]

He’ll and leggo

Helm

[steep osprey]

What spec do we even have for tindral

fury s3 is gone

fuck it i'll just play fury MT

[steady plover]

@hallow vale yeah pretty tough season for puggin

[steep osprey]

huge

[steady plover]

the meta fotm is lame

Tank DH
Resto Druid
Mage
Shadow priest
Augmentation

[hallow vale]

When i push i always manage to get someone to play with, be it befriending someone after a key or looking for people in discords or other means of lfg.

[compact wave]

is Cataclysmic Signet Brand Cataclysmic Signet Brand near bis for armsa?

[hallow vale]

but after s2 i arsed pushing. Too much stress for some dumb imaginary numbers

mainly play for fun now

[manic stirrup]

how many people are pugging 15s and up right now

[steady plover]

yeah i stopped playing after s3 , i feel things is just repetitive af

[steady plover]

few , Critcake Group for example

[manic stirrup]

critcake pugging

[hallow vale]

my friends are all on 15 atm

[manic stirrup]

[steady plover]

yes when his friends not online , as warm up

[hallow vale]

but they mainly pug, because they can't organize to play together even though they are on discord kekw

[steady plover]

also critcake pugs as fury for fun

[manic stirrup]

you also have to realize, well known good players are going to get invited to keys an unknown potentially good potentially bad player would not get invited too

[frigid lava]

I pugged the entire dragonflight seasons.

[manic stirrup]

people know critcake is a fucking gamer

[frigid lava]

still fun

[hallow vale]

i think thats not the case anymore

Shadowlands s3 i started spamming keys day one in the season

ended up being highest rio resto sham on kazzak

for 4-5 days

that was my 2nd season of m+ ever

i knew jack shit of high end m+

still got insta invited

[steady plover]

lol you were alone or with friends

[hallow vale]

alone

[manic stirrup]

nothing you said has any relevance to what i said

but good job

[hallow vale]

my friends didnt want me because i was bad

i just had rio to get me invited, although i was rly bad. That 1 week of playing with good players thought me more than 1 whole season ( previous season)

[steep osprey]

is Augury still fine for arms?

or only fury

[steady plover]

as a resto shaman you had zero problem to join decent groups , hadn't you ?

[hallow vale]

literally insta inv the moment i que

[steady plover]

damn

[hallow vale]

until the end of the week when i stopped for 1 day and dropped

[steady plover]

yeah the first days of the season are the craziest , espically beginning of the exapansion .

[hallow vale]

but yeah i think that having score will always be the main factor and i will give myself in that season as an example every time ;d

[lucid raft]

is there a code you can put to sim chromatic essence choosing all the stats? so 1 sim instead of 5?

[clever crag]

Guys

OCE or Icon if I only care for m+

Or something else even

[lucid raft]

puzzle box and then it depends what other people play i guess

[clever crag]

I mean which to spend bullions on

Puzzle Ill farm out for sure

[balmy swallow]

according to #updates-midnight , for mythic plus it would either be Incarnate Icon or Neltharions Call (which I have and honestly works really well with the cleave/bladestorm build), so either one of those, or OCE if youre flat out missing on a stat and need the stat stick

[boreal remnant]

So I did not get my leggo this week, which means I'm good to use my second boullion, what do you guys reckon I should buy? My focus is entirely on m+, rn I have a puzzle box and hc call to chaos

was thinking maybe icon, I bought diurna ring with first one

[clever crag]

Yeah I had nelth and its a sick trinket

It procs on ST too right ? From DN

[daring heron]

what happened to your main acc

[boreal remnant]

temporarily disabled from being hacked

[daring heron]

oof

[boreal remnant]

yeah went in and disabled it myself when I noticed it

[daring heron]

hard to say whats better for you

do you plan to play any fury and do you have a myth track weapon

[boreal remnant]

I mean I'll play it if it becomes better eventually, and no I just have a 522 wep

Was considering ashkandur

[smoky kayak]

especially if you already have CoC, I don't think I'd bother with Icon right now for M+, I haven't seen many tanks/healers using it yet

[daring heron]

after yesterday's keys im not sure what to think - fury might see play in some of my high keys

[boreal remnant]

Yeah?

[smoky kayak]

it's just your alt character? I'd probably just buy Ashkandur for the biggest short term boost; can always save it for Fury later too

[daring heron]

yup, it made a massive diff on bromach for example

[boreal remnant]

yeah ig

[daring heron]

the damage was definitely there too

[boreal remnant]

yeah I just hate being hardcapped

[daring heron]

i kept up with qrva's PI'd ret as fury in AV 17(?)

[midnight mural]

How does rage feel ? I dabbeled abit in fury a couple of days ago and it felt like i was absolutely swimming in rage..

[daring heron]

you definitely do

[cloud dawn]

I heard Seal of Diurna's Chosen is underperforming???

Any truth to this

[daring heron]

did 1-1.2% of my overall damage in keys yesterday, seems very good

literally free damage

[cloud dawn]

Nice thats good to hear

[steep osprey]

@daring heron

[boreal remnant]

btw crit have you figured out how to do the reflect on last boss halls?

[daring heron]

i dunno if theres a better way but i just tank the squall buffet with stacked defs, always getting vigor and earth shield from laren, plus a sac from qrva

should work up to the highest keys

[tropic umbra]

having an augmentation is fun

[steady plover]

gg wats ur ilvl

[tropic umbra]

518

even better than that actually

the .69 is important

[boreal remnant]

do you have a clip somewhere?

[daring heron]

it's the 2nd one in same phase that's tricky, have been surviving it with everything that ive still got remaining plus rally and spirit link, but dont think thatll be good enough when we push a few more levels

[fossil thistle]

😦 Im having my worst key ever. 329k overall so far, half way through... freakin 760ping

[daring heron]

dont think so but it'll be in any of my stream vods where i play hoi

[boreal remnant]

I'll check for it

[daring heron]

taunt boss before squall buffet, survive it somehow, boss will follow up with focused deluge which you can reflect

[steep osprey]

This is my first myth track augury, neveer got it last season and I literally got it on my first heroic raid

[boreal remnant]

and I guess you toss dbts + ip + dstance?

[clever crag]

@daring heron you play BSL + wrist ?

[empty forge]

What do we buy with the 2nd set of bullions? Fire ring or BIS trinket?

[steady plover]

Fire ring

[crude raft]

what do i need to do outside of the execution bcs im trying to do the same what is on wowhead and my dmg is nonexistant

[hexed canopy]

Do you guys play raid build on Counsil in amirdrasil

[daring heron]

yep

[daring heron]

bsl + bsl

[boreal remnant]

you mean your priority list outside of execute?

[boreal remnant]

rn I'm doing vers bracers, but I think I'm gonna end up going 2x bsl + cr bracers

[maiden stirrup]

Quick question, can somebody explain why Sudden Death is a dps downgrade in hectic add cleave vs. no talent? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5TXjXSzqVW6EpEQYy11n7o

[boreal remnant]

why are you simming hectic add cleave

dungeon slice is supported now

[crude raft]

ye

[maiden stirrup]

I started with that but thats the same result

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wyxjwv7BbJnNWTPqEsJBmm

I guess its the APL prioing SD too high in aoe situations?

[proud plover]

beecause SD is a st or 2t only ability, that doesnt cost rage so you lose out from wb cdr via am and op/dn hits much much harder to aoe

what it does give you is prio damage

[maiden stirrup]

hmm that does make sense ye

[clever crag]

So for hc+ lowish m+ youd say thats absolute bis

Dps wise

[daring heron]

uh should be unless you somehow manage to have sub 40% uptime

[proud plover]

2xbsl is hard bis at 60% uptime - im seeing 60-80% uptime in m+

[clever crag]

Very nice

[trim lintel]

im not trusting myself to play with bsl at all

[clever crag]

But for pvp its prolly sucks donkey balls but w/e

[proud plover]

its fine tbh - you either die to a 1 shot or get healed back to full very quick and ity takes 5 secs to stack so unless your hp is perma sub 90% its worth

[clever crag]

I have a habit of topping myself of with IV so should be alright

[proud plover]

if only for a big pull and all your damage/cd's you had it

its just there all the time unlike lariet / sflame where its rng proc time

[boreal remnant]

wasn't it shown that you only needed like 25% uptime for it to be an upgrade

and in keys I'm seeing around 70%

[daring heron]

think it depends

but ye it's silly good

[boreal remnant]

I mean it's 100% getting nerfed

[proud plover]

if that 25% covered your roar and cd's then yes

[fervent hawk]

the mastery buff in AA gives 1200

huge

[boreal remnant]

ye

[daring heron]

ik it's day 1-2 but lmao

i love the range on arms

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/tumbs-down-big-arm-rick-and-morty-arm-ripped-arm-gif-16749600

Basically.

[daring heron]

plan today is probably arms on everything except tindral

[proud plover]

bottom 25% got parried in opener, 26-50% dont have leggo, 51-75% didnt upgrade leggo and bought the ring, 76-95% copped a raid mechanic, 96-99% played perfect but that top parse got godsend rng on everything+pi+wft 🙂

[thick kelp]

[frigid lava]

Getting the first CS parried... cringe

[fossil thistle]

just need more PI during execute phase

[reef birch]

2 bsl feels like a definite improvement over bsl+wrist for m+

[fossil thistle]

I think archi said its like .3% difference?

For him, anyways

[somber lance]

Is that the best one? I always take vers

I dont like dying in general

Ye i have no idea how to play arms on tindral

On smoldie tho it should SLAP

[frigid lava]

I take haste... since my haste is terrible

[boreal quartz]

step 1

dont fly

[fervent hawk]

would be a sim question, however I usually take vers as well
mastery is simming really high for us this season due to DR hence why BSL is so good

[boreal remnant]

I mean I just focus on boss dam on tindral

[fervent hawk]

1200 mastery for me is like 8-9% more mastery

[boreal remnant]

let the padders care about roots

[boreal quartz]

play wb iftk and just hold wb for each root

1 min roar and do the fury timers

but yoink feather on first to lego

[frigid lava]

1min roar = aligns with bs

[boreal quartz]

who the fuck plays bs on tindral

[frigid lava]

M+

[boreal quartz]

1 min roar = more roar = more good

[somber lance]

I have no idea if we will even get to tindral tonight….. have to clear heroic first and then we go myth

Gonna take uproar for tindy and fyrrak

Is wb good for ads maybe on fyrrak?

[frigid lava]

no wb for any boss fight this week

[fervent hawk]

full ST

or bust

[daring heron]

there were people playing BS on tindral in s3

always smh

[halcyon breach]

Just go full ST for all bosses

Tindral parses aren't even enabled so who cares