arms

[mortal crag]

Feels weird to skip on a mythic ashes/that ring but realistically yall probs right

[hallow python]

what is the actual name of the eranog ring

[mortal crag]

I'm gonna catalyze heroic hands as well, dropped w socket

Ring of diurnas chosen

[halcyon breach]

Seal of Diurna's Chosen

[mortal crag]

Ah seal

MY BAD BANE

[halcyon breach]

is ok

[hallow python]

so that ring is really that good then

[halcyon breach]

It's good yes

It's free damage with good stats

[stone elk]

is there a guide or anything that says where to put my bullions

[hallow python]

pins

[halcyon breach]

Both in the pins, #updates-midnight and on wowhead

[cursive sun]

bane can u check my sim?

[halcyon breach]

I don't see anything wrong with it

Eranog is both good in M+ and ST

But I would still recommend taking AoE/DS Trinket sims with a grain of salt

[mortal crag]

Do u guys see the shield ring as a viable bouillon pick week 2 for m+?

[wicked aurora]

@halcyon breach purple class hmmmmm????

[mortal crag]

I've got era ring alrdy

[halcyon breach]

gg found my hidden alt

on NA of all places

[hallow python]

time to look at crafts

[halcyon breach]

I'm gonna replace Splat both in Sabotage and Liquid soon™️

[tranquil zinc]

with anvil

do you send on CD?

[halcyon breach]

Basically

In raid you send on CD, but in M+ you'd want to be more mindful of when to use it

[minor gust]

macro into MS and call it a day

[languid pivot]

branch, horn, or mythic tier shoulders (taking ring with bullion, prob trinket next week) 🤔

[halcyon breach]

Myth tier shoulders

[robust ridge]

Well probably shoulders then

[halcyon breach]

Neither Horn nor Branch are particularly good

[robust ridge]

Given you're replacing your trinket next reset

[languid pivot]

thought so, just wanted to check, ty both

[strange perch]

hi guys, got a question

is this the right arms talent tree?

[cursive sun]

take off merciless boengrinder

and put it into massacre

and also dont use blademasters torment

[halcyon breach]

It's the right talents for double bladestorm

But it's not the recommended setup

[minor gust]

all aoe no ST

😎

[lament fjord]

did they fix bullion weekly quest in combination with one dropping from raid?

[strange perch]

Alright, thanks

[halcyon breach]

No reports ever confirmed it being a bug to begin with

[strange perch]

also another question about the Ember of Fyr'alath

should i just all of them that i have in raid?

[halcyon breach]

Yes just use them

[strange perch]

Thank you

[abstract verge]

Guys, also for you mastery is simming like A LOT

[halcyon breach]

At this point in the expansion we have so many stats, that everything sims well

[boreal quartz]

All stats good

[abstract verge]

All guides tend to haste crit base but even if lose a lot of haste its ok if covered by mastery

[karmic gust]

is signet brand a sim bait or is it really that good? i have the choice between pips and signet brand

[exotic kestrel]

just get gigantic ammounts of stats at 525

[somber lance]

Is the new group finder actually good? Can i delete my addons?

[halcyon breach]

It's not sim bait, you just need fights to last long enough

[abstract verge]

Long fights is awsome

[halcyon breach]

Although this season I wouldn't expect you to have many long fights, except the last two bosses of a tier

[somber lance]

Sim bait isnt a thing lads

[abstract verge]

Over 6 min is bis basically

[somber lance]

You either sim correctly or you dont

[abstract verge]

Under 6 meh

[halcyon breach]

Pips however will be good in both raid and M+

[karmic gust]

yea i will go for pips then, there are like 4 fights over 6min

[abstract verge]

It is simming meh for me

Any tips for simming

[boreal quartz]

It's just haste X innit

[abstract verge]

Maybe im doing something wrong

[halcyon breach]

Patchwerk 5 min 1 target

Brain off

[abstract verge]

No ok so im doing it correctly

Dungeon slice is reliable to have an idea for dung?

[halcyon breach]

I'm personally not a big advocate for Dungeon Slice, but it works at least for general gear purposes

I would never use it however for trinkets

[wicked aurora]

s priest is fuckin wild

[hot jetty]

do we ever craft frostfire legs or is that a simbait?

[exotic kestrel]

Would u guys take Pips over neltharions just to avoid the 5% dmg taken?

[boreal quartz]

Dont have either

But shadowman > funny little men

Animation wise

[exotic kestrel]

not gonna be pushing crazy high, but id like to try to push atleast somewhat

ima buy ring this week and probably neltharions/pips next week not sure which, have a fragment in other slot

[abstract verge]

I have neltharion in the vault and already a mythic anvil and i dont know what to do

[exotic kestrel]

Same, not sure how much the 5% dmg actually ends up mattering

[minor gust]

5% adds up when your trying to live one shots

[exotic kestrel]

i remember i ran it on my prot pally in s2 coz the str outweighted the dmg taken, but that cant be the same for arms

[wicked aurora]

never thought the 5% was a big deal but I don't think the warrior one has a damage taken increase

I know the evoker one did

[minor gust]

Call just feels like omega ass garbage uptime with a 5% dmg taken increase just take double stat stick trinket or 1 stat stick and puzzlebox and call it a day

[wicked aurora]

ah nvm same one so ye

[exotic kestrel]

I think icon/oce are out for me since the group im running with somewhat reguarly isnt rly planning on taking it, and counting on it in pugs is kinda oof

[minor gust]

a lot of ppl are grabbin OCE so its good

can also just run Pips aswell

[real saddle]

hello nerds, what should be my second item after bracers?

[cursive sun]

bsl

[cold garnet]

which specs are running each color tho? cause aren’t most going azure/ emerald with a the second best being obsidian. GENERALLY SPEAKING

[zealous basin]

what a shitty vault

dunno what the fuck to take, everything looks awful

[minor gust]

you will run vers oce

[clever crag]

If I only do hc and m+ to keymaster BSL is good right ?

[real saddle]

on the neck ?

[oblique frigate]

myth track legs (or belt if you have myth track legs) or 2x sockets

[boreal quartz]

That's not the haste belt is it

[cursive sun]

probably yes

[real saddle]

what you think of the haste legs?

[boreal quartz]

Good offpiece

[zealous basin]

i got hero legs

[zealous basin]

these are the belts

[crisp crane]

[oblique frigate]

id still go legs or sockets

[zealous basin]

but i got this on me

[zealous basin]

oh ffs

[simple wren]

would it be a good idea to spend bullions on the ring this week?

[zealous basin]

absolutly

you must

[simple wren]

goodie

[vast creek]

is it worth using the bullions if you have the normal version of the ring -- to buy like a cata signet or orb?

[oblique frigate]

yeah like even if youre farming mythic eranog the ring is so contended your chances are slim getting it. may aswell buy it

[zealous basin]

mmmmmh

i dunno

i'll probably spend the bulliouns

and buy ring

[vast creek]

lost the cata sig with a 98 tonight - so still oof'd about that.

[fading sage]

I mean, get ring this week and next week you get signet 🤷🏼‍♂️

Or cloak

[zealous basin]

Another question, is it trolling to ditch the essence for getting anvil?

[vast creek]

ya, I just figured could go cloak and then a trinket -- upgrade ring last?

[zealous basin]

i love the anvil and i play protection too so anvil would be perfect

[fading sage]

I got a myth anvil in vault today, replaced the dragon games trinket so I can’t complain

[grave pollen]

for M+ what item do you guys buy with dinar ?

[lament fjord]

idk bought legendary upgrade, got eranog ring in vault on mythic

so yea we just go gym and copy paste later

[grave pollen]

[oblique frigate]

personally id go lego upgrade > fire ring > icon/OCE > ???

[fading sage]

Or hoard your bullions for 4 weeks and see what your vault has all 4 weeks

[cursive sun]

why would anyone ever do that

thats just

torture

waste sub for 4 weeks

[fading sage]

I don’t endorse it but it’s an option lol

Like I bought ring today, if my vault has ring… I’ll be sad :p but then I could socket it lol

[zealous basin]

Imma take myth pants and catalyze them

ffs

[cursive sun]

think im also taking ring

[vast creek]

At the end of the day - it is great that we even have the option to get the best gear every 2 weeks.

[boreal quartz]

The m+ one there's 2 with the same icon, that's why I asked

[fading sage]

Or even an item 3 weeks in a row due to the quest

[gray valley]

Would it make sense to you guys to take trinket first (thinking icon, don't care for raids) if I have decent rings in the meantime and still rocking a trashy 48X augury (x irideus, no plans to play double active with puzzle box)

[somber lance]

World 2nd awakened tindral

Thank you for the updates

[misty yew]

how good is algethar

[zealous basin]

y i know

[zealous basin]

oof it's good

[misty yew]

like is it M+ mandatory

[fading sage]

I feel awakened amirdrassil is tuned more appropriately compared to the previous 2 raids

[zealous basin]

wait so our prior this week should be the trinket?

[clever crag]

Which trinket

Thought its eranog ring

[zealous basin]

the thing that Archimitrios wrote yesterday

the prio list

but idk

[clever crag]

The ring is ultra rare

[zealous basin]

I could go for a VoTSS ngl lads

[boreal quartz]

Signet brand is troll

[clever crag]

Youre not gonna get it in raid

[zealous basin]

true

[boreal quartz]

Even on mythic it's turbo omega worthless IMO

Fights dont last long now

[clever crag]

19 other mfs will roll on it

[somber lance]

That’s a trinket prio list. Scroll up

[boreal quartz]

Next rota itll be even shorter kills

[boreal quartz]

No one will if everyone has it

[zealous basin]

I will always chose anvil

[clever crag]

Neltharion is huge in m+

[zealous basin]

is my beloved trinket

[clever crag]

Had that last s2

Was popping every pack

And it has a cool visual

[zealous basin]

Prob i go for ring, sarka back, trinkets

i'm delusional and i will drop the trinkets

[cold garnet]

sark cloak is big n greedy

[stone elk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jTFs5enLb3URtP4TJytaAv this is what im looking like right now, what should i spend 4 bullions on.

[cursive sun]

ive done so many different combinations

eranog ring

is by far biggest upgrade

pray i dont get it in vault :)

[bleak fog]

2:nd week and vault is meh :D..

[short briar]

how do you sim raid vendor items on raidbots?

[bleak fog]

Cloak Haste/vers , boots vers/mast or neck haste / mast

[cold garnet]

given you have 1 lfr kill on fyrakk, i think you could look at ashkandur, and possibly trinkets imo

[mortal crag]

haste mast is probably the best stat just cuz it somewhat lines up and also works for fury

but other than that they're all similar

but thats just my 2cents

[real flint]

Keep catalyst in mind. By now or in a week or two, you might have spare charges and offpieces could be valid catalyst items

[mortal crag]

ur getting catalyst every week though

arent u

[bleak fog]

Yeah

[real flint]

Exactly

[bleak fog]

And in long term, Cloak will be crafted so will neck?

or am I wrong

Can be..

[mortal crag]

cloak will either be sark

or crafted

up to u

erally

[cold garnet]

socket option 🙂

[bleak fog]

mm

[mortal crag]

how are we feeling about the possibility of crafting LEGS with shadowflame?

[cold garnet]

feeling bad

bsl enjoyer

[mortal crag]

why though

i mean i can do legs with bsl

too

im just thinking about crafting legs

[cold garnet]

why legs

[mortal crag]

that way i can use my champion cloak+my heroic feet

i just grabbed the chest and hands from vault/catalyst

and my legs are veteran

[cold garnet]

just go do some m+ silly

[mortal crag]

i have been

i mean otherwise what am i gonna craft

[cold garnet]

craft cloak, then next chance get vault socket and you can socket wrist and ring

[mortal crag]

for bsl/shadowflame?

ye but sark cloak no?

isnt that a wasted craft?

[somber lance]

Eranog ring is 528?

[mortal crag]

yes its mythic

at least mine is

last week's vault

[somber lance]

Oh fine

You didnt awaken it

[mortal crag]

nope

awaken would also be 528 im pretty sure

it'd just be awaken 1/12

diurna ring is 535

[cold garnet]

i’m not a sark cloak believer personally, losing stam for a proc that might happen when you’re chilling is cringe

[fervent hawk]

crafted cloak with flavour pocket

[cursive sun]

wait wait

[fervent hawk]

yum

[cursive sun]

so

[mortal crag]

i thought about flavor pocket as well tbh

[cursive sun]

ring from mythic is higher than buillon ring?

[mortal crag]

no

they're both 528

buillon gear can be awakened

its literally in the name

awakened 1/12

[misty iron]

Well one is 535 and one is 528m

?

[foggy wolf]

yo guys, what would u get with buillons? ring or a trinket? (prio m+). Prob gonna craft a neck today aswell

[mortal crag]

again, that's the diurna ring

there's two rings

the eranog ring is 528

the diurna is 535

[cold garnet]

also like when are you gonna get the sark cloak? like feels like you’re missing a 40 ilvl and embellishment upgrade just for a drop that might come

[mortal crag]

the diurna ring will awaken to 14 and the eranog will awaken to 12

[misty iron]

Ye ye, guy asked about mythic ring, didnt specify which

[mortal crag]

he did, he wrote eranog in the beginning

at least robin did

and dae spoke on that

@cold garnet ig idk

just my silly lil brain

BSL or shadowflame? hmmge

[boreal quartz]

Bsl

[mortal crag]

how much uptime does bsl need to have to surpass shadowflame?

like in raiding/m+ environment

[cold garnet]

not sure but since we have ip and vr were actually pretty good at getting decent uptime

[clever crag]

Youre drowning in rage anyway first 65% of the fight

[thick kelp]

like 30% :xdd:

[short briar]

hey guys how do i sim the raid vendor items?

[steep osprey]

is Stormwind buggy?

can't get into it

[mortal crag]

THATS IT?

[pearl mantle]

guys which one should i take or should i just take tokens for socket?

[nocturne plinth]

does shadowflame procc eranog ring? if yes, still take bsl?

[wicked aurora]

You have legendary dot and helm enchant I think you’ll be fine

[normal mason]

Helm and leggo procs it anyway so don’t need the shadow flame

[misty yew]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uPKLZn7SpgmTBBabWyGV31

Should I be taking Algethar for M+ purposes here...still not got 4 set though...

[daring heron]

take the box, you'll get 4set eventually

and how dont you have 4 set at this point, we have 3 cata charges and a free flex token from 2k m+ or heroic fated clear?

[dreamy sandal]

Anyone using the Dathea trinket for M+? Considering it but dont know if it will be better than just using fragment or puzzle box.

[exotic kestrel]

finally got 4set this morning losing 9 tier token rolls is great

[severe saffron]

yeah if u can clear hc or get 2k ur pretty much guaranteed a 4p rn

[soft fox]

Double BSL or vers wrists

[daring heron]

insane trap trinket imo

[dreamy sandal]

Yeah its risky ofc, but is the damage not there?

[soft fox]

im thinking double BSL

[daring heron]

we dont have a good way to survive stuff while rooted by boon

[latent hull]

Its not worth it

[daring heron]

and the dmg diff vs other good trinks isnt all that much anyway

it's 100% a trap imo

[latent hull]

Its on 3min cd and like every pull has swirlies on the ground

That onenshot u

[dreamy sandal]

Seems resonable! I'll go for the Neltharions call trinket or chromatic essence instead then

[soft fox]

why not icon?

[dreamy sandal]

Or maybe Icon, guess it depends on what others get in my m+ group

[latent hull]

Thats in sim ,in reality when u need movement and u cant use it as often its much worse

[boreal quartz]

You really need tank and healer to use it

Which they generally wont

[soft fox]

healers do

[latent hull]

Does dreadnaught proc nelths

[soft fox]

dps/healer icon is already better than a half stacked essence

[daring heron]

yes

[nova wigeon]

i'm lost guys i need help ><

[latent hull]

If i dont have an m+ group and i mostly pug should i take nelths over icon

I dont have puzzlebox yet

[daring heron]

idk if you push keys but for any push keys, the 5% increased dmg taken is a death sentence

[nova wigeon]

Pip's is a good option ?

[soft fox]

in a few weeks most ppl will have icon/essence anyway

also pugs

[languid panther]

not all classes want icon/essence anyway

[soft fox]

the majority does

you will prolly only see rets/rogues/monks without

[latent hull]

I dont have much time rn for pushing very high but i want to get rid if my dathea trinket

I can either get like icon then or fire ring

[daring heron]

i suppose nelths call will get you killed a lot less than boon

[soft fox]

if you want eranog ring id wait for next week

[calm rock]

Hi, Voice of the Silent Star anny Option for high keys later? @daring heron

[daring heron]

im insta buying eranog ring, shit's busted

[daring heron]

fuck no

[exotic kestrel]

truth

[calm rock]

ty

[latent moss]

pips is so underrated for some reason

its giga

its outsimming nelth for me

[daring heron]

pips is very good if you dont have oce/icon enjoyers

[latent moss]

by a lot

[daring heron]

i want it for sure

[halcyon breach]

LFR Pips is an upgrade for my warrior

[nova wigeon]

Ty for this

[daring heron]

id recommend pips over nelths fall any day

typo but ill leave it there

[halcyon breach]

watch your profanity critcake..

[daring heron]

usseewa

[stiff wedge]

Box and pips for m+?

[paper dagger]

ADO REFERENCE

[halcyon breach]

holy ado

didn't know Crit was a fan too

Also Erga spotting

[paper dagger]

[daring heron]

[halcyon breach]

Erga has insane trackers

the moment Ado is mentioned he appears..

[daring heron]

new album soon

[paper dagger]

yippee

[halcyon breach]

2 months 🙏

[hot jetty]

How come blazebinder's hoof outsims Puzzle Box and every other trinket i sim?

[vocal drift]

Warrior and ado enjoyer, literally me

[coarse glade]

Are you guys crafting Shadowflame or Blue Silken Lining? Idk if the uptime will be any good on the latter

[rare kite]

Bsl

[halcyon breach]

Even with mediocre uptime, BSL is good

[daring heron]

ado world domination

[halcyon breach]

And works in all content, compared to SF only really being decent in ST

[naive sage]

What's Neltharion's trinket uptime on average for you guys?

[quick acorn]

Is there any WA to track the tier?

[fossil thistle]

Stats feeling good right now. unbuffed, still rocking 489 Rezan's Gleaming Eye, going to try and farm a hero Blazebinder and Puzzlebox this week

[naive sage]

You can made it yourself, the buff is called Strike Vulnerabilities

[simple wren]

theres no synergy between shadowflame and diurna, right?

[fossil thistle]

Anything that does fire damage can proc it

[naive sage]

There is, shadowflame means shadow + fire damage

[fossil thistle]

iirc

[simple wren]

so then shadowflame should be a lot better than BSL?

[naive sage]

No

[teal fossil]

You already have your legendary

[simple wren]

ah ok

[teal fossil]

All the other fire damage just makes it a bit more consistent

[naive sage]

Also diurna's ring is obviously a gain but not worth to craft things around it lol

[simple wren]

cant decide between BSL and shadowflame 😦

[fossil thistle]

Shadowflame beats BSL if you like to get hit by literally every mechanic and your healing is struggling

[naive sage]

It's like 1% damage in st

[naive sage]

There's not much thinking to do about it, BSL

[simple wren]

oh ok

thanks guys

[fossil thistle]

tl;dr if you have no uptime it's not that good xD

you can sim uptime %. But as many others have shown, it's easy to get 50-75% uptime by playing well, in which case it surpasses flame patch

[boreal quartz]

If ur healers are dogawful maybe dont BSL

[rough pewter]

what do u guys think i should buy from vendor?

im thinkin about ashkandur (ihave lfr ashkandur now) or anvil trinket

[fossil thistle]

probably

[naive sage]

[fossil thistle]

Are you in a position where you can upgrade it pass what LFR caps at?

[rough pewter]

no

[rough pewter]

where

i found it thank you

[fossil thistle]

Probably have little value buying a weapon that will upgrade to the same item level

[rough pewter]

yes i dont i will buy a weapon now

its kinda worthless yet

but so many good trinket

[vocal drift]

Proud top 0.1% listener last year

[strange perch]

Which trinkets should we use bullion for?

[soft fox]

why blazebinder?

[proud plover]

cause it pumps

[soft fox]

but there are better options

and you wont go double on use

[proud plover]

um using bladebinders oveer pb right now in keys

[soft fox]

weirdge

[tough steppe]

wtf

[fervent hawk]

puzzy B iz strong

[viral orbit]

Good morning! I have a question ? why do war Armes take the "torc" and not the "lariat"?

[fervent hawk]

for BSL embelishment

[pearl mantle]

guys which one should i take or should i just take tokens for socket?

[fossil thistle]

I have hero signet for ST.
I want to get blazebinder for ST and a puzzle box for M+

[fervent hawk]

we heard you like trinkets

[viral orbit]

ty

[soft fox]

but puzzlebox is better in ST too

[fossil thistle]

I dislike cast on use for raiding. Just personal preference, wouldn’t care much for the .5% difference (not sure the actual%)

[soft fox]

then i suppose you dont use your leggo either

[proud plover]

pb v blazebinders

[pearl mantle]

🥲 i already have those :

[soft fox]

doesnt say much to me

[pearl mantle]

so i dont know what to choose

[fossil thistle]

8. right

[soft fox]

that reference is pretty pointless

[proud plover]

im mean sure its pointless - but i see better results with blazebinders overall

[soft fox]

fair

ill try it if i get 1

[chrome hare]

any advice on what to buy?

wont get legendary for a few weeks probably

[carmine jay]

does eranog ring work with leggo or should i craft shadowflame boots?

[woven wasp]

works with

[cerulean swan]

a race change

[chrome hare]

gobbers tho

[nimble basin]

actually a joke! the same week we're meant to go for fire ring (i have the shield fire ring) and last week I got myth chest tier anyways.

seriously wtf

[rare kite]

good news is you get 2 sockets from 1 vault now

so you can socket both your rings

[exotic kestrel]

gaming

[nimble basin]

which is okay damage wise, just means you're behind ilvl wise though

but ye

[exotic kestrel]

just dont get any loot, ul be behind ilvl wise anyway 😄

[nimble basin]

:D

just very meh first 2 weeks. Chest I had to cata, then 2 rings and the same chest lmao.

seal of filial is only hero track, would still use that over a myth ring? the ring will sim higher but I guess its the proc

[austere willow]

Is it worth going blue silken lining over shadowflame? Even if we're going for Eranogs ring?

[lime plank]

if you have the legendary. ring proccs of legendary dot

[wind vault]

Leggo procs ring

[austere willow]

Ah, so blue silken lining is the play then

[lime plank]

i am also questioning BSL though. Shadowflame is kinda passive and nice and i was also thinking how Frostfire Belt fares these days

belt and neck are my lowest ilvl rn :D

[austere willow]

I mean according to the wiki, you need 15% uptime to break even vss shadowflame

[lime plank]

so i was thinking on crafting there

[austere willow]

and 40% on st

[lime plank]

oof that's barely nothing

[quasi torrent]

@halcyon breach i have lego icon and eranogg ring
what vuy

[halcyon breach]

Sim then buy Broodkeeper ring go bed

[sacred zodiac]

@halcyon breach i have lego oce and
what buy

[quasi torrent]

and

|| ||

_ _

[quasi torrent]

I actually used my bullion already this week oki!

[halcyon breach]

how dare you fool me like this

[chrome hare]

so do i buy Askhandur or a Trinket for m+ here?

[quasi torrent]

but i do now own all the listed items

[exotic knot]

I just tried doing droptimizer for bullion items and this can't be accurate right?

[astral yarrow]

Anda owns

[odd crest]

Looks fine to me

[exotic knot]

Huh I thought going OCE would be the play today

[astral yarrow]

Did you sim with all 5 friendly buffs?

[quasi torrent]

it is known

[exotic knot]

ahhh good call

[quasi torrent]

narrator: they did not

[exotic knot]

yeah my bad

thought it was with all on default

[astral yarrow]

[quasi torrent]

realed and trued

@astral yarrow tonight i will blast more burst

(arms does no burst, it is a flat line)

iconic puzzle combo

infinite stats hack

[astral yarrow]

Burst blast fuck good

[lost kernel]

Augury not strong for arms?

[exotic knot]

not really no

[nimble basin]

Okay so, did a pw 5 min 5 target sim, it's saying the 528 ring is like 8k less damage than the 522 filial duty ring? wasn't expecting it to be that much. maybe I fucked up the sim lmao

both with 535 diurnas as buying that obv

[exotic knot]

ok yeah now it makes more sense

Prob gonna go sark cloak anyways cause I wanna focus on logs

[quasi torrent]

Do not

[nimble basin]

2 sockets + Diurna ring definitely seems like the play lol

[quasi torrent]

go sark cloak

[sharp wyvern]

Are there enough specs that need OCE with different stat buffs than us ?

[quasi torrent]

that thing is bait af

[exotic knot]

really?

dps increase looks juicy

[quasi torrent]

and procs at the most inopportune times

[wind flicker]

Sark cloak procs are not that great

[quasi torrent]

Well gl parsing sark mythic with it for example

u get one every transition

big blast

[exotic knot]

ok ok you convinced me

OCE it is then

[buoyant cargo]

i am not sold on how BSL works. On fortified big pulls where you lust and want and need the dmg you can basically be whole time without mastery buff if unlucky (depending on healer/affixes/and clean play by yourself). Same for hard tyranical bosses. sure details tells 60% uptime or something. but is the uptime there where you actually "need it" or on the casual pulls?

[wind flicker]

• sark cloak has no stamina, so IF you run BSL ur making it even harder staying above the hp threshhold

[quasi torrent]

i have one on hero track rn, like yeah it's fine

its also ass in keys

[wind flicker]

This too

[quasi torrent]

not just cause stam

[exotic knot]

true

[quasi torrent]

but also cause it's proc doesn't happen a lot

[hazy flower]

Stealing shit from your teammates

[wind flicker]

In m+ it barely procs its kinda weird

[quasi torrent]

Like instead of every 90ish secs its more like 3-4min

[quasi torrent]

I mean read the cloak

it makes sense

[hazy flower]

Thats how it proccs for me in raid ye havent looked at m+

[exotic knot]

I have puzzle box and anvil on heroe right now so prob gonna run OCE and swap between anvil and puzzle depending on fight length right?

[hazy flower]

Like 2 proccs on 6 min kill

[quasi torrent]

20 men getting hit by random aoe in raid happens more than in dungs with 5 men

[quasi torrent]

depends on boss ye

[hazy flower]

Was only sark hc

[quasi torrent]

bosses with perma ticking aoe its up more

like ill keep using mine in raid

and in m+ until i can be fucked uppying 2nd cloakus

But its not a good buy

[hazy flower]

100% that

[quasi torrent]

i also crafted larry cause bsl was only 1500 dps ahead for me with 60% week 1

So maybe dont listen to me

[daring heron]

about to push keys with 2x bsl sark cloak and nelths call

[quasi torrent]

😎

[daring heron]

and toxic phial

[quasi torrent]

real

[quasi torrent]

no toxicology either

[daring heron]

maybe take fbv instead of IP too

[quasi torrent]

take both drop uhhh

BB

[daring heron]

[quasi torrent]

healing god x

[lime plank]

who needs stam or IP when you just deal more dmg, right?

[quasi torrent]

blast more burst

[lime plank]

just stay at full hp always 4head

[quasi torrent]

mob die fast no can do damage to u

👍

[tender ermine]

Would anyone know how much damage increase the legendary upgrade gives? From the end of last season to the max ilevel this season?

Like a ballpark %

[glossy sky]

yoo, i thought we are suppoed to take diurna ring as second item for bullions, but it sims for me almost as a last option? any idea plz?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iFUjkEMart1aGSToTfwfJF

[latent hull]

Die by the sword there to save you

Crit how about u take storm eaters boon as 2nd trink aswell

[storm lark]

U guys preffer BB or EB for full ST?

[sacred zodiac]

dunno lol sim it

[daring heron]

perfection

[latent hull]

On your way to the awc cuz of your dmg now

Wait no awc is pvp

I mean mdi

[chrome hare]

any help on what to take? Askhandur? (only killed fyrakk twice)

to buy from raid vendor

[latent hull]

Cope for fyralath

[chrome hare]

ye thats what i was thinking, and anvil does horseshit in keys

so considering a trinket? Augury seems to pump for other specs but is it shit for arms?

[latent hull]

What ilvl is ur weapon

[chrome hare]

522

Thas why im considering askhandur

[raven nymph]

Are you clearing first few mythic bosses? Does anyone else in raid not have lego?

[latent hull]

Idk

[chrome hare]

only doing m+

and pugging for fyralth

and imean i've done lfr/normal/hc fyrakk x2

[wintry scroll]

i wonder do i go hero cata or myth track neck

[lament fjord]

They should really make it so that u can buy the legendary for like 4 buillons at this point

[raven nymph]

Sim the vendor gear in droptimizer.

[chrome hare]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aapJizjaziqg1zh8wKAkQb

[nimble basin]

Dunno, i think people should have to get it the same way most of us did.

[nimble basin]

at least till the expansion has finished

seems scuffed to just come in, final season and get it so easily

[lament fjord]

I dont mind it being on vendor

[tough steppe]

jugg build kinda busted this week in m+

[latent hull]

Storm eaters is bait trink

Dont tske it

[chrome hare]

yeye i know

[tough steppe]

the single target in bosses is insane

[lament fjord]

It's more frustrating seeing people get it dropped when they killed it first time

on an 455 alt

[nimble basin]

idd, that annoyed me many weeks lmao

[raven nymph]

I’d take Durna still if it was me and hope for a weapon from vault. Can use bullion next week on weapon.

Or pug M first 2 bosses

[chrome hare]

but imean i only have Head enchant to proc it anway

[raven nymph]

Short term gains vs longer plan with loot you can’t get. That’s your choice.

[boreal remnant]

yo how exactly does reflecting the beam on last boss halls work?

I seem to remember it as you just taunt right before the beam cast finishes but it didn't work

still went on the tank

[somber lance]

is spiteful storm bait?

[raven nymph]

Yes

[latent hull]

You need to tank the ability first

[somber lance]

why is branch simming higher than anvil

[latent hull]

That targets u with deluge

The waterbolt,idr what its called

[boreal remnant]

can you even live squall?

[latent hull]

Idk if meld works

Are you night elf

[nimble basin]

what build is best this week? some say jug is great?

[boreal remnant]

yeah

[boreal remnant]

same m+ build as always

[tough steppe]

Thinking about using Signet this week for Tyrannical

Signet and Call must be interesting ngl

[boreal remnant]

depends on the dungeon

[tough steppe]

Pretty much all of them after +10

[boreal remnant]

yeah but some of them are ass to keep it up

[latent hull]

Im not sure if u can meld squall or if it was that u meld after squall to not get meleed

[halcyon breach]

I would not bother with Brand honestly

Just use OCE/Icon or Pips as your passive

[normal mason]

I just got trampling hooves so that’ll be what I’m rocking with puzzlebox, next week I’ll grab a oce or icon for m+

[halcyon breach]

Some dungeons are absolute ass for uptime as well this season

[tough steppe]

I'm using Icon and Call

It was either Call or Pips to buy

So i decided to buy Call

[dapper shell]

If I use puzzle box and a fight is only about 3 minutes is it better to save puzzle box for execute phase oder just pop at start with first cds?

[still fox]

what you guys craft? and what to you buy with the billion this week?

[soft fox]

I think crafting 2nd BSL wrists + buying eranog ring

[somber lance]

is bsl boots a good craft stats wise?

[halcyon breach]

Doesn't matter too much, as long as it's on a low stat budget off piece

Belt, boots, cloak and wrists are all good slots, depending on what you have

[somber lance]

yeah just gnna see where i gain the most

im gonna run bsl and vers wrists cause im scared of dying

[steady plover]

do you go to gym ya benzai

[little nova]

How big of a gain is the legendary? Because I feel like I'm slapping everything with a god damn pool noodle

[halcyon breach]

Mayhaps, why do you ask Raven dearest

[tropic umbra]

is the non-cleave m+ build worth using? I know i've seen people talking about using it.

i don't even know what the talents are tho xD

[halcyon breach]

You can sim it, but long story short it's a massive increase

[steady plover]

cuz i am starting lifting , i would maby get some advice from you .

[halcyon breach]

For me going from a 522 weapon to 535 Legendary was roughly 30k~ dps

[halcyon breach]

I'm not the best to ask for workout advice sorry! Except don't go overboard, practice your form first and take steady steps instead of going all in from the start, look up how to properly do exercises and ask those around you if you're curious or don't know what to do

You can easily get hurt from doing exercises wrong, which that alone can completely kill your interest in working out

[steady plover]

i see thank you ,but do you have hit the gym from time to time ?

[halcyon breach]

I have

[steady plover]

well i did some calculator online it says that i have to take around 200g protein daily , that is huge for me . i rarely reach 150g protein that is if i overeat how the hell could i consume 200g of protein daily

[cold garnet]

protein shakes n bars

[halcyon breach]

Protein supplements go a long way, but also eating well

You don't need the most expensive products either, and they can last a fair while too

[steady plover]

holy that is huge amount of protein i have never used to take it in general

[halcyon breach]

But long and short, I'd look up these kinds of things and not ask for real life advice on Skyhold of all places

[little nova]

😭

[halcyon breach]

And ask people around the gym you're at, if you're at one

[steady plover]

well i though as warriors we should look musclar and bulky that is why i asked here .

[nimble basin]

That sounds like way too much, tbf, but depends on things

most people go buy the lbs calculator, of it.

but honestly, not sure it's accurate

like x amount of protein per lbs

[steady plover]

well maby you are right , umm i will double check that

[nimble basin]

whats your size? height and lbs?

[lament sigil]

what do we buy with the bullion this week

[nimble basin]

are you skinny, wanting to bulk, do you go gym 4/5 times a week? all sorts of factors.

[sand dove]

depends what loot youve had already!

[errant bough]

we back at this again huh cps

[lament sigil]

well ofc we back to this

[opaque citrus]

I bought ring

[lament sigil]

i am too lazy to check so i just ask

[halcyon breach]

I hate doing work myself and use 2 minutes to get answers

[errant bough]

im too lazy to answer so you should check

[halcyon breach]

That are found in the pins, #updates-midnight and in guides!

[lament sigil]

maybe someone else will asnwer

[still fox]

second bsl is good option?

[halcyon breach]

Depending on how good you are at staying alive and using defensives, it's arguably the best embellishment

[tough steppe]

I bought vers wrists and Neltharion's Call to Chaos

[halcyon breach]

Even then with low uptime, it's good

[nimble basin]

Having to disable group finder addon and use blizzards 🤢

[halcyon breach]

The default group filter is decent now

[still fox]

whats good uptime from bsl?

[errant bough]

god this ui is so awful!!

[daring heron]

the addons will be updated as some point ig

[nimble basin]

Still not got basic stuff, been able to click sign up

[daring heron]

but ye the default is much better than before

[nimble basin]

another popup for no reason etc.

[tough steppe]

The main problem for me is: i can't update my Call to Chaos to max level so rip

[nimble basin]

oh for sure, its better than it was

[hazy flower]

raid depends on bosses, m+ 70% should be very minimum u get

[still fox]

buuh i sit mostly on 65%

[tough steppe]

also wtf, why my trinket is not receiving the crest discount

[halcyon breach]

On my hunter in an algethar with a bit of a questionable healer

[golden raptor]

What would you guys craft in my position this week? I have wrists currently

[halcyon breach]

If you just use your defensives properly, it's very easy to maintain

[hazy flower]

my highest is like 83%

and if its weeklies

[golden raptor]

I was thinking about shadowflame boots

[hazy flower]

I could probably squeeze out 90

with paying attention

[daring heron]

do you have 2 trinkets at that ilvl

[hazy flower]

not every key is the same though

[daring heron]

1 is not enough

[golden raptor]

And yeah for m+

[tough steppe]

that explains a lot

[obtuse copper]

@halcyon breach

[opaque citrus]

MM enjoyer Banezi

[halcyon breach]

MM enjoyer indeed

@obtuse copper

[hybrid hornet]

Can you macro puzzle box into an ability?

[soft fox]

no

[halcyon breach]

Into Avatar yes, if you run double bladestorm

[golden raptor]

If you play arms with bladestorm you can macro it to avatar

[halcyon breach]

But it's not recommended to run that in general

[soft fox]

can you tho? isnt it turned into a global now

[golden raptor]

Avatar isn't so you can

[halcyon breach]

It works with Blademasters

But normal Bladestorm no

[gilded shoal]

Hey all, just a question since I'm new to arms, but should I delay avatar so it lines up with colossus smash?

[golden raptor]

Delay avatar?

Usually you have to delay warbreaker

A bit

[gilded shoal]

Ahh, okay, that makes sense. Thank you ❤️

[rare nest]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-cent-oh-yeah-dispicable-me-gif-1435135573086978182

[sleek dock]

is there a Bis list for Raid and for M+ ? Apologies couldnt find it yet

[golden raptor]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/bis-gear

Scroll down and you'll find raid and m+

[still fox]

buying trinket or diurna first?

[golden raptor]

I'm also wondering if i should buy diurna or ominous chromatic essence

[sleek dock]

i hav over the years learned not to take wowhead info for granted. and also I understand raid and m+ as the sources of gear not for being BiS equipped for the specific content and talent distribution.

[golden raptor]

Pretty sure wowhead info is accurate nowadays

[sleek dock]

May be the case but the second point is still valid and not addressed at wowhead

[daring heron]

as in fire dmg ring or oce?

id take the ring assuming you have leggo

[golden raptor]

Yea i have leggo

But i also have a very bad second trinket

Gear over there

[sleek dock]

Critcake probably knows which pieces you aim for as Arms for M+ and Raid and where to source that info?

[modest moss]

There is no bis list there is only sim yo self

[daring heron]

ring is probably still a bigger upgrade and you can probably find another trinket in m+ or raid

ye just get ring

[golden raptor]

Thank you critcake

[daring heron]

do hardmode doti also and see if you can get hero track sandglass from 2nd boss

[golden raptor]

Hero track sandglass?

[daring heron]

yes

[golden raptor]

Ah yes accelerating sandglass

I was thinking about nokhund or ruby, but yeah

[daring heron]

sandglass better than those usually

[still fox]

and the diurna is the better right?

[golden raptor]

Sandglass is better true

Hard mode drops champion gear or heroic gear?

[still fox]

and helm + leggo
enough for ring procc so 2x bsl?

[daring heron]

hero

[golden raptor]

So hmm. Then craft shadowflame boots, right?

[daring heron]

non hard mode is champion

[normal mason]

Why is it every season there’s a piece of gear that’s refused to drop. Had to settle for lfr belt from tindral for now

[verbal garden]

what kind of sorcery is this

diurna sims best, so i skip puzzlebox and build another bullion item i guess?

and how the hell can you get a VOTI item out of an Aberrus week

[gilded shoal]

So if I don't have my leggo, what would be my best use of bullion? I have the seal of Diurna's chosen atm

[daring heron]

i'd take the box personally, likely wont see that again

ring you will get with bullions anyway

[opaque citrus]

It’s full loot table

[verbal garden]

Good input. Will do. Was not even sure you could not buy puzzlebox but then it's pretty ez.

[steady plover]

ya crit Why not releasing more m+ vids in youtube in s4 , i only saw your academy +16 , can i find them in your twitch past broadcast channel . or you still warming up , waiting for qarva and that shaman healer with the rogue or what is the deal

[runic igloo]

i see most warriors not using tier leggings altho it sims a 7k ST upgrade would it still be best picking that? or just go with tier chest from hero to myth track?

[slow saddle]

well theres 3 mythic track items ?

so take what u need no ?

[runic igloo]

shoulders i have myth, chest is from hero to myth so a little ilvl upgrade Leggings are better ilvl upgrade but normally leggings are not taken tier so thats why i was wondering. leggings Sim 7k increase Chest 2k

[daring heron]

im playing the game thats why

[opaque citrus]

I would take the 7k Dps over the 2k Dps personally

[opaque citrus]

Back to the content mines

[summer cargo]

Does the axe proc the ring

[old urchin]

Yes

[hazy flower]

axe and head

[fresh spire]

Crit it's not good enough stream all night

[steady plover]

alright keep it up , I'm just amazed that you haven't been burnt out since season 1 from m+ . i thought you would take a break or something but you are always dominating the scene

[weak wave]

Heyho.
Don't we use Cleave right before Warbreaker and Bladestorm to get the Set Bonus Buff?

[opaque citrus]

Well neither of those abilities do a particularly high amount of damage on their own

(BS can in large pulls)

But I don’t think you care much about specifically buffing those by pre cleaving for a crit

[weak wave]

Hm okay.

[olive nest]

Quit playing the video game and provide him content!!!

Smh

[sand summit]

Hey warrior friends! Now that we got our legendary upgraded last week, with two buillions, om curious whats up next to buy, with the weekly quest!? 😄

[olive nest]

I spent bullion on Diurna’s

[mild hound]

Was OCE for me

Got diurnas from vault

[daring heron]

at the very least youtube stream vods are pretty goated

[sand summit]

Yeah im looking at OCE or Diurna's... Not sure which one will give the most value

[opaque citrus]

Diurna or eranog ring

[olive nest]

Diurna’s easily

Eggnog

[opaque citrus]

That’s… an interesting choice

[opaque citrus]

Brother

Don’t call it Diurna’s lmao

Yes it’s named poorly

But there’s the eranog ring and the Diurna ring

[olive nest]

Lmao

Fair

People out here buying shield ring

Lurking at my comments

[proud plover]

just call them chosen and duty

[proud plover]

confuse everyonew

[opaque citrus]

Just call them eranog and Diurna

And anyone who is stupid suffers

[cyan lagoon]

What does arms usually run on tyra weeks? Jugg or BS?

[olive nest]

Bs

[sand summit]

So the Diurnas ring, are obvisouly the choice here? i heard it can proc from both legendary and head enchant right?

[proud plover]

jugg fux hard

[opaque citrus]

The eranog ring

[olive nest]

Jug is very playable this week because spiteful extends to maintain jug stacks

[proud plover]

^^

[olive nest]

I still prefer BS though

[fresh spire]

Agree I pop in more as I see it on YouTube. Barely ever touch twitch

Same with maximum too

[opaque citrus]

BS is more fun

Therefore BS

[olive nest]

I do the same

Any 522+ gamers in the chat!?

[still fox]

axe and helm is enough for procc ring?

[olive nest]

Yes

[daring heron]

axe alone is enough

[still fox]

ah top

[mild hound]

Jugg the play on tyran?

[daring heron]

it ticks like 2000-3000 times in a key lmao

if thats not enough then nothing is

[olive nest]

Isn’t it like 30% uptime from axe alone or something wild? Lol

[opaque citrus]

It was doing several thousand Dps for me in raid yesterday

Even before I had enough to fully upgrade it

[daring heron]

something like that

[opaque citrus]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/y6XmD3aqB8cbhCjW#fight=238&type=damage-done&source=2433

[halcyon breach]

27%~ when I last checked in sims

[opaque citrus]

6.3K on Volc

[sleek dock]

is the whirlwind build without bladestorm still viable this season?

[olive nest]

Fervor of Battle

Yeah deswind has a FoB cook

It’s cool he posts good numbers with it

[daring heron]

yup, but it's no longer whirlwind spam

whirlwind is just an overrpower proccer

[sleek dock]

can someone link this new version?

[olive nest]

I don’t have the exact build off hand but I know it drops Storm of swords and sudden death to pick up FoB and something else idr the last one

Oh probably collateral damage

[sleek dock]

is there aplayer we can look at?

[tough steppe]

Interesting, dreadnaught procs Call to Chaos

[normal mason]

I’ve actually been watching way more now it’s on YouTube and you can re-watch the vod easier. I like that you can rewind and go back to live easier on YouTube

[olive nest]

Deswind

Probably a R.io key with that build

You would just have to browse

[halcyon sequoia]

ayo. branch and ashes are simming higher than the rec trinkets. thoughts? (dungeon cleave/hectic add/ patchwerk) 3min

[olive nest]

Ashes and branch perform great on short fights

So that makes sense

[supple jetty]

Would eranog ring still be the way to go bullion-wise with no lego and just head enchant to proc it? Can’t sim atm but last I checked ring was only ~2% dps on 5min ST and even friendless OCE was simming higher (which I’m heavily considering since my current trinkets are dog)

[hazy flower]

recommended trinkets are likely brand and anvil (aside from oce/icon)

which gain insane value

[celest olive]

i've been so lucky, that i've gotten 2 shoulder pieces that i wanna catalyst one of, but 1 has avoidance, and the other has speed, which would you pref?

[hazy flower]

in longer fights

[halcyon sequoia]

im only donig m+ this season

[hazy flower]

for m+ I'd recommend a stat stick like icon/oce

[olive nest]

I would highly suggest against* signet or anvil in keys

[halcyon sequoia]

stat sticks man

[hazy flower]

and 2nd trinket maybe puzzle box or augury or not sure what else do we have this seasn

[halcyon sequoia]

blizzard plz remove stat stick trinkets

[olive nest]

What??

[halcyon sequoia]

boring

[olive nest]

I prefer when stats are big

[sleek dock]

Deswind on Area51?

[halcyon sequoia]

i prefer trinkets with cool effects

[sleek dock]

52

[lament fjord]

give back draught of souls

[olive nest]

I prefer when my spec actually does the damage

[halcyon sequoia]

rumbling ruby is cool

even on 3 min fights plenty of other trinkets are sticking out above the rec stat sticks

[daring heron]

good feedback tyty

i wasnt planning on streaming on yt everyday like i do on twitch but i think it's popular enough that i should

[halcyon sequoia]

also isnt icon a bad m+ pick

tank and healer dont pick it up

[obsidian topaz]

Question about this part of the new rotation : Only use Cleave with 2 stacks of Martial Prowess (and only >4 targets if during Sweeping Strikes), prioritized just after the afformentioned Whirlwind.

[halcyon sequoia]

oce being in the same general ballpark of needing other people

[normal mason]

Even if you decided to go just twitch again I think uploading full vods to YouTube would still be good. It’s been good for me learning arms this season to watch you and how you deal with packs, and surviving yourself without relying solely on healers

[obsidian topaz]

If OP is on cooldown, WW is on CD, cleave is up and we have 1 stack of martial Prowess, do we cleave anyway, or TC?

[obsidian topaz]

love the youtube streams. I can also slow it down to 0.75x speed to watch your openers and rotation

[daring heron]

anyway this isnt the place to talk about my stream

[obsidian topaz]

fine fine. Fury didnt feel too bad in ST last night in raid

Actually pumping on Tindral with Stormeaters boon on the roots lol

[somber lance]

yeah fuck you crit

[obsidian topaz]

now im torn on vault since I've been playing arms all season. I've got the choice between ashkundur heroic, myth shoulders or manic grieftorch

[somber lance]

Farming views on discord

Off with u

[daring heron]

lmao

[obsidian topaz]

Also not sure how I feel about this fury iteration

[somber lance]

What the sim saying fam?

i wouldnt grab ashkandy

[obsidian topaz]

mostly myth shoulders

[opaque citrus]

Mods crush his skull

[somber lance]

I also think i will go myth shoulders

[obsidian topaz]

for both arms and fury

[somber lance]

im waiting to do a normal run to see if i can smooth things out before picking vault

Maybe get lucky

[obsidian topaz]

But idk if sims take into account CDR of grieftorch

and my guilds die a LOT

[opaque citrus]

They don’t but iirc in s1 there was a string for it

[somber lance]

Is there a setting for grieftorch?

For procs from deaths

In the sim

[opaque citrus]

Setting no custom string maybe

[obsidian topaz]

I mean its not really a BIS trinket right, so not much point taking it heroic from vaault

is my logic

[somber lance]

Go myth shoulders

[opaque citrus]

It definitely can be

[signal heart]

which trinket would you reccommend to get for M+ ?

[obsidian topaz]

you saw nothing. thought I was in fury

[opaque citrus]

Uh huh

[somber lance]

Oce or pips or puzzle i would say

for best m+

[obsidian topaz]

Everyone on logs seems to be running Puzzle and Idol of trampling hooves

[daring heron]

those are the top infinitely farmable trinkets

[obsidian topaz]

but I'm not sure why for hooves

[daring heron]

thats all

[obsidian topaz]

I'm finding it tough to follow the fury rotation with new build

[fading sage]

Assuming you use bullions on leggo and ring and you get terrible raid/vault options for trinkets. All you have left are farmable options from m+

[obsidian topaz]

not that it's hard, its just always 100% action fast paced

like always in CDs trying not to overcap rage, almost dont have time to use leggo lol

[normal mason]

I’ll be honest I thought I was replying to you on your server, my bad

[somber lance]

AM ravager?

[olive nest]

#arms message
If you want to read a little

[obsidian topaz]

ya

[fading sage]

I use leggo during lust… other than that, I just ignore it or big aoe

[somber lance]

Its quite fun and engaging the s2 fury build but its more intense i find than s3

[olive nest]

I’m in this boat, I’m running puzzlebox/Whelp shell (haste)

[normal mason]

It’s decent on st compared to other m+ trinkets and you don’t have to think about it. 2 on uses with the leggo is terrible to play around

[obsidian topaz]

Im getting the hang of watching the bloodthirst crit number instead of waiting for the sound, that way I was use it right away

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

What is reading

[obsidian topaz]

You dont run massacre on Tyr weeks?

[olive nest]

Yall replying to deswind about a convo he had days ago

lol

Just read it for reference

[somber lance]

Do you guys hold roar as arms for tindral first roots?

Or send everything on pull

[obsidian topaz]

I hold

[opaque citrus]

OWS is pretty low item level nowadays vs more current trinkets. I wouldn’t run it.

[olive nest]

Avatar/roar roots at 52 seconds

[obsidian topaz]

I use leggo on pull, then pop avatar CS start regular rotation

[olive nest]

LMAO

Only 3 years ago

[opaque citrus]

Hope this helps 👍

[obsidian topaz]

Then pop Stormeaters like 5s before roots come out, Roar during roots

[manic egret]

no sparks catch up yet?

[olive nest]

The guy asked for deswinds build so I linked him to it

[fading sage]

Arms feels rough on igira and tindral compared to s3 fury lol

[olive nest]

Let’s talk about SL some more

[opaque citrus]

Okay

What’s your favorite covenant

[obsidian topaz]

in terms of looks or terms of abilities?

[olive nest]

Well yeah, burst AoE isn’t really a arms strength

Be the boss damage/prio damage

[obsidian topaz]

by NF was fk sick with ancient aftershock and the other ability

[olive nest]

I preferred NF

[opaque citrus]

I don’t remember asking you a god damn thing. Go sit in the corner and think about your actions.

[opaque citrus]

Omg nice they’re cute

[olive nest]

AA was too good

[normal mason]

Door of shadows was underrated

[old urchin]

Venthyr for life. So glad they didn’t change the animation on massacre and that it kept the condemn sound.

[obsidian topaz]

door of shadows was meh

[gleaming cosmos]

Consensus pretty favorable to second BSL for keys?

[old urchin]

Door Dash was amazing.

[obsidian topaz]

they could have sped it up, its still in the animation by the time im hitting my next ability

[olive nest]

Banner though

Banner was mint

[obsidian topaz]

banner very mid

[steep osprey]

Is it a bad idea to make haste/mastery items since I play fury too

[olive nest]

I have haste mastery items

Sims say it’s good

[opaque citrus]

Mine are all haste crit for arms/prot dual spec

[proud plover]

the dream

[opaque citrus]

Not enough speed

[olive nest]

I’m not logged in but I’m like
41/41/30/(some vers)

[somber lance]

14% avoidance wtf

Do u have avoidance on like 4 pieces of gear

[olive nest]

Needs to avoid for BSL uptime

[proud plover]

^^

[somber lance]

Is anyone actually getting icon from other tank/dps/healer specs

I simmed conservative with tank+healer

But what are the chances in a m+ grp?

[lethal pendant]

0

[proud plover]

almost zero