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bigger dps than aiming cleave at them tbh
im stucked with augury and cataclysm both from season 3 so idk if i should go for a trink buy or eranog's
have you tried just looting good trinkets?
oh yea i tried
damn
sadly i dont have too much time to do a lot of dungeons to get those trinkets, but i did like 20 academys and nothing dropped yet sadge
I was lucky I got the nelth trinket and anvil from raid, and 2 blazebinders -_-
like in sims all 4 trinkets are higher upgrade for me than the eranog ring
anvil cata icon and oce
oh no, wowhead actually gets paid extra for bullshit
but its because you know, i lack good trinkets so its trivial that those would sim higher right, which confuses me if i should go for an insta upgrade instead of getting an high contested bis item
Yeah every time you click, it actually generates an extra bullshit tax
people pay a nice premium for that, it's true
Wait really? Is that how it works?
Please, tell me more 
yes, I'm clearly fucking with you because I'm "hurt"
Ok I’m sold
i don't see any reason why they shouldn't get paid for running their website
whats wrong with that lmao
I click everything Archi posts to funnel his income stream
Does archi get paid more for it
He gets extra from me specifically
archi is my hero
The whole conversation was based on the premise that what is posted is bullshit in the first place (which is, at best, an extremely subjective point of view)
But the really funny part was you trying to tell me (a prominent Wowhead staff member), how the site works
i wasn't the original commenter lol
sorry, I meant to reply to him
all g
you, ya fuckin nugget
I read it ogrimmar contender. I'm getting drunk
idk if that's supposed to be a good thing or a bad, but congrats? 🤔
What a mong
Is ~5 min still the rule of thumb for fight length CSB needs to get max value? My guild is killing a lot of bosses in under that time even this early on so I am debating picking anvil.
Oce with next bullion?
idk man, you're just giving off really weird conspiracy theorist energy, like how dare a website actually make money to pay its staff
not to mention how everything posted must be clickbaity bullshit as a result
I dont click on clickbait stuff because i know its gonna be clickbait
You dont know how it works though archi
And theyll make money off clickbait and ill waste time
For stat stick trinkets as someone who only pugs, would you recommend pips over icon or oce?
Guys what’s “wowhead”
Would it have more consistent value?

I mean it literally is that easy - if you don't like a subject, don't fuckin click on it lol
but here's the real brain busters for you
- if you stop clicking on it, websites will stop promoting it
Wowhead is kinda what happens when you first meet a girl and…

like you know why tier lists still exist, despite pretty much everyone recognizing that they're subjective and useless?
Because people fucking love to click on that shit and argue about it
Tbf clickbait is like status quo no matter which site you’re on
Pretty sure u can make your own server with wowhead bot and adjust the settings on it? Unless wowhead bot is for premium only
Look at YouTube lol
you did actually, but more importantly, your initial comment was aime at the dinar quest post being clickbait which is... the complete opposite?
Also what the fuck does diablo posts being annoying have to do with anything? you can literally opt out of seeing those (also annoying =! clickbait)
Hopefully TWW will bring back warrior dps from the dead
that's not clickbait though, you need to brush up on your definitions
Where's my popcorn
I want to play 
clickbait refers to a title which states something contradictory to the body of the article
just because tier lists are fucking stupid doesn't inherently make them clickbait
i love tier lists
BiS gear lists are also fucking stupid, but not clickbait
Site needs money to run = posts stuff that people will click on mad weird concept tbh
Even when warrior is hard C tier, out performing S/A tier dps feels goodd 
I do think it’s possible to consider the term having evolved past that original meaning, or to just be slightly misused colloquially
you're the one who has been picking fights lol
I mean that's true, but the point still stands
We just need more utility
Buff heroic throw by 13.67% pls
Should fix the issue
Also buff heroic leap damage by 11.637377%
I keep saying, give us a war banner we can throw down that gives us Bloodlust/heroism.

fuckin weirdchamp energy man
Imagine not being able to play the game rn
I appreciate you archim 🙂
serveerrrrrupyet?
As up as fury warriors dps
savage
(It’s a joke don’t attack me)
We need heroic throw and heroic leap damage buffed and we gonna be gigachad gamers
die fury die
Attack this guy rn
+11.7747478% and more random ass number buffs pls
3rd on dps charts is not enough ? being on top means nerfs inc
I assumed the guy flipping the bird in his pfp would have better takes tbh
unless you are a mage. frost too strong? buff others
as fun of an idea as giving Warriors lust is
- They're not gonna make Prot the only lust tank
- Lust itself is extremely minimal in keys; the difference between natural lust and drums is so small it will not do anything to "fix" Warrior utility
Instead, what will happen is people will celebrate for a week, quickly realize their spot in the "meta" is completly unchanged, and go right back to complaining
There is always some dude who has to die on a hill that doesn't matter for anyone and they always pick dumb fights then resort to dumb stuff and then get banned
Buddy id polymorph ur ass on a mage, double blink to africa and then cc u more whilst i eat my popcorn
Warr no utility
today is a good day my 16th herioc kill on furrussi
yeah warrior was trash in pvp since classic
Cant believe NECRO BANNED wasnt a talent
I still think warriors should get a brez and I will fucking die on that hill
incorporeal this week and afflicted next week

Battle shout, blade storm, Battlestar Galactica
shout a mfer back to life
"wake the fuck up, do some dps"
Yea I can see that, it’s just a small thing that could work (essentially like a rallying banner idea).
Tank Lust I don’t feel would break the game, but it would raise the value of Prot warriors a smidge.
would be way more useful than lust, but idk if it realy fits Blizz' fantasy
BL is more lore accurate lol
It would be neat
It wouldn't "work" insofar as changing the meta
Shouting ur allies braincells out
idk i would love banners still
how about they give everyone a brez, but put it under first aid
Skull banner or something of the sort
I still think warriors should have an immunity because they are so angry they refuse to die
it'll be a 5 second cast called CPR
Giving them haste and then recklessly killing shit
Fury warriors should be healers that just cleave the targets blood into your allies to replenish their Hp.
why don't we call it something like "jumper cables"?
Lock soulstone
But banner
"Gigachad banner"
its the same
also game calls it combat
Is it 3pm PST yet??
servers up
my sincere apologies I'm not quite sure how that happened. discord mobile lmao
they up now??
rn
They are not
I’m going to kill you with a brick
na
💀

he is named after a haircut of course you trust him
Swordish with the execute
Servers are in fact still asleep
Trust me
man all these guys who want to give warriors utility to buff their teammates when I'd gladly take a talent that increases my dps by 1% but I do friendly fire damage to allies
I still think they can solve 99% of warrior utility issues if they made this pvp talent a pve one
Basically pala
We have a passive right now called “Carry the Team” where we just tend to do 5-20% more dps then the group
They should add more bosses like echo
I’m by no means a good warrior (solid 75-85% parser) and it kinda happens even with people who are arguably better
So that i could do highest group damage and pad most due to killing pumpers
We need more CC's for that reason
people like you are end up on the bench
HOLD ROAR INFERNAL IS UP IN 30 SECONDS
There seem to be many arms users who use Irideus instead of puzz box.
What do you think about it?
Fuck benches ill stand up
NA friends, can u confirm the emissary of war quest?
servers are still down
We cannot because servers are down homie
No utility just more dam
Nice name
Also wowhed posted
I know you mean Pornelius Hubert
Beautiful
sweeping strikes MS both tanks just to fuck with them 
IIRC they’re similar in performance (like 1-2%, I’m sure Archi would know)
Use what you get 😄
My mission in s4 is to kill echo 50 times by killing and stunning people
Awakened mount and 2 more portals
As long as im having fun i like it
awakened mount ?
Ye
whats that
3 raids and u get that worm shit
the god awful fox worm
crazy recolor turned into slight remodel with disgusting marshmallow mouth
didnt even know thats a thing
Got up to 1950io single affix so should be KSH after reset
clowns cant even think up a good mount
And then ill spam echo
And spread toxicity
Ooga booga warr brain int shout their ass
thats usually a DH thing
😄 I got 2503 the other night. Mostly have 7/8s on Tyrannical. Hoping to push 11s this week but I have no key buddies 😦
imagine doing anything above 9
I don't think it's a marshmallow mouth I legit think that's saliva
I'm tanking m+ to get Arms gear, 9+ with 483 gear is so bad gameplay
I didn’t play much S1/2 so I never got portals, I’ve been enjoying the DF dungeons honestly
I have crafted s3
i got to 2500 season over for me as far as m+ is concerned
1h and shield

I’m at 2588 as a 514 ilvl so far
Average about 460k a dung
cool story
About the same. I’m around 375-400k/dungeon but I’m still using S3 augury and a 502 irideus:( 508 ilvl
That was at 510
I dont have the puzzle box, but i like to macro the irideus fragment with bladestorm. The STR bonus it provides ticks down once with bladestorm and buffs it for its entire duration. Bladestorm then increases your STR even further while you're spinning. When you come out of it, you still have most of the buff from the fragment in addition to the bladestorm buff.
I have irideus with avatar and they line up well.
Low keys I just avatar on CD cause I really don’t care and it just makes sure every other avatar is with fragment
i'm wondering if it's the gear that is really going to jump my dps or if it's just lack of rotation knowledge
I'm 505 and usually end with 300k overall in m+
probably both
maybe wrong build ?
i've been watching mr critcake lately and trying to follow the way he lines up his cds for big aoe
also algethar is an outlier so dont take that as baseline
ya that first pull lasher dmg is a meme lol
Yeee the 515k was NO
you guys all rocking the lego too?
Fr I hit 2mil and a 1 mil at the end
Yea full upgrade
AA is such a dream bro
I finished at like 800k or some shit the other day
We love it
jealous
Aug/BRM
they're very similar for Arms, but a lot of people simply find PBox annoying to use
cc: @azure goblet
that's certainly an option lol
I got hooked up with Nelth's big CoC in Mythic Aberrus, so everything is gucci for me
Got a nice big flashy WA that yells at me when 2nd trinky is usable
It's been ok, but I don't love it lol
guess you could always try to precast PBox and just keep fragment macro'd to Avatar for the offset use, but yeah I try to avoid that juggle if I can
I don't even like casting Anvil lol, which is why I made a macro for it!
That's what I do tbh
I have puzzle on its own, press pre-pull, and I macro'd frag into bs+ava, whichever it's up with and aligns 1st I send
It better have /say The anvil hardens…
It only uses 1 tick during Bs and the strength seems to scale w hurricane so it's honestly pretty pog
It's just not super fun to use
And the mastery is pretty sick for M+ at least as well
You don’t have anyone in your guild with @showtooltip that gets spammed in raid cause they refuse to switch the @ to #
So with the two bullions from M+ what's the best item to buy here? Is it the Eggnog ring?
Sim upgrades 😄 you’ll likely end up wanting a seal anyways.
And if we get 2 bullions from weekly quest, we get to buy another item next week.
Personally skipping over signet brand for ST until later as I got a heroic one last week. So I’ll likely be getting a seal or chromatic essence
sim 3-4 min fight timer
Its prob gonna b eggnog ring, alghou im concerned bc the fact that ring has no haste, and ill lose a ton of haste
Just get other gear with haste 🤣 it all balances out eventually
no way, I spam buttons far too much for any /say macros not to become obnoxious
you can sim bullion items with the droptimizer btw - first option (S4 vendors)
what's the anvil macro? just put it on OP?
Make it a weakaura, ez
now you're onto something
That was my thought!
Yeah dw i did, week 1, ik eggnog is the best upgrade i could get after leggo
There's a channel for that! But it's not quite ready, so here you go
/castsequence reset=0.7 Mortal Strike, Elementium Pocket Anvil```
/castsequence reset=0.7, Mortal Strike, elementium pocket anvil
Ffs
use that, press it twice very quickly
It takes me too long to type that
We ball
make sure you use the #showtooltip text or your keybind will flip back and forth between showing MS or Anvil (not that it hurts anything, just distracting)
appreciate you guys
Is that macro going to mess with the GCDs? Like I usually have the pocket anvil on a separate button cuz I press it after I press a GCD
no, that's the entire point of it - it will never cast Anvil on the GCD
You use it during GCD
Ah is that the reset-0/7 thing?
correct
a normal macro like this will try to use both actions simultaneously and whichever one confirms first is what goes off
/use something else```
Hmm, maybe I'll try it out although I'd hate for anvil to be used right before a boss pull or something when clearing trash
so if you put Anvil and MS or something there, and use it 0.1s before the GCD is up, it'll cast Anvil anyway and delay your GCD
but a castsequence macro only casts in sequence - it cannot proceed to the next step in the sequence until the previous has been completed, so in other words, it cannot cast Anvil until Mortal Strike has been cast
The 0.7s reset is to ensure that it'll happen before even the fastest 100% haste GCD is up, so Anvil will only ever happen during the GCD without interrupting your rotation
I will unironically make and send this
How do i deactivate those buffs on Friendly plater nameplates in Plater 
uninstall plater, ez
Press shift-v more ez
press shift-z, even better
Just disable your UI
or is it control z? I forget
yeah that
immersion
Alt Z
damn
Just deinstall WoW
just turn off your monitor tbh, never worry about low FPS again
Fr tho maybe check plater discord
Flip the breaker whilen you’re at 🫡
@wild plover
for crafted gear torc is BIS with bracers?
yeah idk, I don't use plater - I'm a tidyplates kinda gamer (i.e. fucking ancient)
Crafted gear used to fill weak slots
TMW and recount too?
With one of those ugly ass wotlk era themed UIs
Titan Panel and xperl baby
Ancient 😄 Are the changes of the arms aoe rota on the wowhead-guide Master Archi? 🙂
Don’t throw shade
Brother
Bro I remember when I played wotlk classic and someone sent me the fat boss guides to study
And I’m just like what the actual fuck
My warrior was made December December 25th 2004 😎
I miss being young honestly
old warrior soul sounding more like a mood and less like a trinket
Classic era boss strat is stack buffs and burn in ~40s
its kind of annoying that SS is on the gcd
I don't even remember if I finished or not, but you can find it in #updates-midnight message for the time being
Isn’t it a half gcd
Can we all remember peggle add on. That was Goat.
Recount? Man comes back when you on that CTRA and KLH ThreatMeter game
Look I started in shadowlands ok I’m trying my best
Have a question? Just ask allakhazam 🫠
Recount must be bis then
Another bullion item and crafted item, hype reset tbf.
Remember when everyone during late tbc/early wotlk would use Xperl, i can’t remember the name of the addon that let you put custom art/solid black bars on the top and bottom of your screen, use sexy map and made your UI look like it’s from WC3? 😂😂 definitely rocked that for a long time
I guess I shouldn’t say everyone. But everyone I knew did
Looked like this basically.
ThreatPlates 
Is that titan
Talking about old addons
I still use Mik Scrolling Combat Text
I set it up quite precisely to my taste
I went away for awhile came back and felt like msct was spamming my screen
yeah probaly titan panel or one of the similar ones - I always hated them
It does spam a lot yeah
Titan and xperl i think. Not my screenshot
I think now if I wanted it I'd just reduce what was allowed to go thru. Having every single passive dot flooding the screen was yikes
guys i died 2 times in a 16 bh. How do i avoid this cast ?
Whats the best build to parse Gnarlroot?
Don’t get hit by the dogs
Oh wait that’s generic gooo ability
yes
You can try ranging it? Otherwise defensive reeally
a good team that can get you to execute phase quickly and doesn't take too long in the roots intermission
It’s the little withered biters after third boss
idk yea u just either try to max melee range em a bit or stun them
ST for normal/heroic
i think they just randomly cast it on someone near them
Mythic I always took a partial M+ build for add damage 🤷🏻♂️
It looks ugly as fuck
What are people going for second crafted item?
And for Mythic?
you guys keeping pot for exe phase on gnarl?
The numbers they put after MoP are so clean IMO
They’re still here
Servers up?
No
historically it was still single target too yes
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/35#boss=2820&class=Warrior&spec=Arms&partition=2
parsing was mostly getting through intermission fast / possibly having adds alive during intermisison to hit throughout to prevent you from hitting 0dps for too long
I assume you get enough aoe just from DN/SS
Is there an easy way to sim OCE with 3 buffs only vs WII
max melee range + move out of the range when theyre casting
no other way as war
well except for dbts
Play dwarf+ play with an evoker
The upfront dam shouldn’t kill you, but the bleed will iirc
I just took reduced roar CD, that was my only change for mythic
guys does the puzzle box bladestorm macro not work anymore?
What did you swap?
2 consecutive hits might
and there can be a couple of these in 1 pull
The crit buff beside two hand weapon spec
Any americans confirm the bullion weekly
looking at one of my keys from s2 it was doing ~ 60% of my hp in initial hit at high-ish key
I’d drop one point.
But I only had to when we were lacking add damage which was only our first kill or two
You can run the reduced roar CD on Igira too, but it’s negligible 🤷🏻♂️
First 3 just go ST, for dream council I went ST and would swap for improved sweeping strikes
it works with the free bladestorm you get from Avatar, but Puzzlebox itself now has a GCD associated with it. This means two things:
- If your macro has other on-gcd spells, it wont work
- Avatar-given bladestorm (Blademaster's Torment talent) isn't taken much currently, since it's not as strong as just "single bladestorm", comparatively.
They did increase puzzlebox's duration from 20sec to 30sec though, so you can just pre-cast puzzlebox before your opener and it's not a big deal
if I dont have the legendary, what should I buy for bullions? Since it seems trinkets are from dungeons and idk if augury/torch is viable for arms
servers are down for another ~2.5 hours still
Some people went war breaker + bladestorm but I don’t think it was a good choice when you rarely get 3 target cleave (opener, and maybe once during the fight?)
thanks ❤️
the pins have some info that is relevant (#arms message), or you can check the lastest post in #updates-midnight which has some suggestions as well.
@balmy agate if you look at top logs during S3, nothing would have changed really
Gotcha. Wasn't sure if cleave would make a play. New to warrior this season. So tryna min max haha
If you have terrible root damage on tindral? Maybe? Still should be fine with sweeping strike on every root 🤷🏻♂️
Root problem solution for tindral is just being another ret Paladin tbh
DN hits roots hard
yo guys is going 2/2 bloodborne worth in brackenhide 15?
if i choose augury of the primal flame tomorrow for my buillon purchase, is it good on arms or is it literally useless?
since id like to have a trinket thats good on both specs
It’s mediocre for arms
Probably want to focus more on prio damage or you won’t be able to kill totems
Depends on comp probably
Ngl arms just doesn’t have a lot of tools for totem
We’re basically forced to run double on use
Miss sks from s2
For BH
There’s better options.
If you do M+ and also play fury, it would be a sensible choice. But Seal of chosen urinals would probably also be a good choice
i have seal already
got it on vault lul
i do m+ and would like to be able to play fury AT SOME POINT IN THIS TIER 🙂
Silent star cloak then maybe
i thought abt it but its a huge stam loss for m+
You also get 2nd craft this week
How are y'all talking about bullion purchase? We should only have 3 total now?
Negligible
not negligible if u play arms and push 15-16s
Damage gain too stronk for pressing S key, silent star and press W
pretty sure for most of us, today's purchases are
- Buillon: Seal of Diurna
- Spark: Upgrade allied bracers
okay and 2nd buillon?
Tbh if you’re pushing 15/16s right now you probably should know how to sim and prioritize what you select 😄
Ya you're high
Ye it's 1 purchase this week
pushing 15s
but
i also dont play arms
1st purchase was last week
OCE sims way better for me than Seal though 😮
wowhead post says we get 2 more this week
and i specifiedi want something for both fury and arms
we're getting 2 buillons from weekly quest
i referred to 2nd buillon from raid
@obsidian wave
next week u can buy another buillon iem
Ok so this is like giga victory lap vibes then
Simming is simming
If you want something for both specs just look at bullion purchase prio and find what’s shared
everyone that has leggo should get the eranog ring, pretty simple
We’re still not 100% certain.
The quest rewarded 2 on PTR, that was the way you obtained them.
He said he has seal of dps already
Fantastic Info by Archimtiros
#updates-midnight message
im aware
but the "shared" ones are not good for m+
apart from puzzle
which is farmable
ye it's weird, i'm not from NA so i can't check tho
@rare kite if I already got leggo upgrade, and have normal-raid version of both rings, should I go for cape? Or still get awakened track ring
fire ring capped at 515, shield ring capped at 522
Servers won’t be up for another 2hr, so when they come up we’ll have confirmation 😄
My 0.02$ is cape 🤷🏻♂️
ahh tough choice, i would prob still go ring tho
I’m going Diurna’s unless it’s in my vault
And otherwise OCE unless that’s in my vault
icyveins says my bis trinks are box and hooves (which I have). I only care about pushing m+
Is OCE still needed?
OCE is large for aoe
No but icon in m+ if ur group runs it is very strong
Still really strong
Stats always are great for aoe
hooves for m+ is silly
go pbox
if u only care m+
oce is not as great as u probably wont have all buffs unless in a full stack
Whispering incarnate icon is good if it’s x3, I think it pulls ahead of OCE. A bit?
I'm running both pbox and hooves like it says. For OCE it's only good if the whole group runs it or? (never used this trink before)
you could get more value from icon if u have a healer running it aswell
You can sim
if no one else is running it
and compare it to others
otherwise pips might be a decent pickup aswell
as a stat stick
is there a target cap on Storm-Eaters Boon/
Billion
is the signet brand trinket suggestion on icyveins also wrong?
signet brand is very inconsistent for m+
there is not
requires tank to chain pull with no downtime
not "wrong" persay, just only good in long raid fights of 4min+ or so
we are talking in m+ only perspective
Definitely would avoid signet in keys
gocha, yeah if you're ever out of combat for more than 15sec it loses a signficant amount of value, not worth it
too many dungeons with forced RP or walking that trip that metric unavoidably
one of the council trinkets would be a great pick depending if you only soloq or have a healer premade
Would be F tier in nokhud, most of the other dungeons I can see it being half decent with consistent pulls (abuse the toy stay in combat)
Icon with a healer only is great value, OCE needs 4-5 ppl in dungeon group to run it
this is my current setup -- you would still suggest Diurna's ring > star cape with bullions*?
and pips provides great value if no others
meme season.....I'll eventually buy this and send with DBTS 
as a m+ only player you could provide your group more utility by crafting cr wrists as 3rd

and get a BSL slot in cape + neck
and as arms losing the stam in higher keys on Tyra is Cringe
What is cr wrists and BSL 
What second craft upgrade are you all going for this week?
Neck with BSL
BSL on wrist
Vers bracers
BSL neck
😎
Ty -- I have the brez bracers on currently because I kept grouping with teams without one lol
Neck/wrist BSL
Or
Neck BSL / Wrist Vers
BSL with neck is a good craft for nxt week in this case i think
I did vers wrists week 1 so I’ll have that combo until next craft
Planning to go 2x BSL
bsl will hve massive uptime during trash pulls in m+ as they have no rot to make you dip below 90%
and you will still get most of your burst out with BSL up
even if said rot is there in a pack
Most importantly this^^
It’s up during your burst
Lorge
Should definitely go with frostfire belt and Crafted helm. I heard they’re bis 👀
Impunity boots are a meme? Even though I'm constantly interrupting
compared to 2x BSL yes
Yeah that’s just wrong info my friend lmao
you gain 2k mastery from running that combo and mastery value sky rockets in aoe
Oh shit 2k is a lot
Hello all, classic warrior new on DF since last season. kinda noob compared to others. Here is my war atm, do i focus the good stats or am i wrong ?
After BSL neck, if I want to keep my brez bracers, what other embellishment would you suggest?
But just look how powerful it is
so 2x BSL > vers wrists+1xBSL for purly M+ content?
You focus the SIM
BSL on cape
Yes for all content
what is the best ? Raidbot ?
Doesn't that mean I can't use Silent Star? @thick kelp
Do you have buffs?
I’d drop a bit of mastery and try to get 34% haste
1x bsl/ vers wrist is about 4k behind 2x bsl in pure ST
And 16k behind in aoe
Roughly
no buffs / flask or runes
One big thing to know about retail vs classic is that stat weights aren’t a thing
Arms is naturally squishy which means that losing the stam from cape makes high tyra keys way more difficult
on the screenshot i mean
Not with sark cloak. BSL on boots
I would say BSL on boots or belt if he played raid
Wrists/neck
yes it does, you can get bsl on like belt then instead or boots. both belt and boots give same amount of mainstat
but he said m+ only
Least main stat loss
Oh wow didn't even notice there's no stam on Silent Star. Good catch
but as zhai said you can go BSL on belt or boots if you really want silent star
and you see yourself staying alive on tyrannical
without the stam
Yea, see if you can drop 3-4% mastery and get the haste up to 34%.
Currently with buffs on my warrior I’m at 44% crit, 41% haste, 24% mastery 17% vers (if I remember correctly)
I just prayge for filial duty to proc and save me lul
^
filial has 1min cd
or so
So only get hit once/per min
You're right, I forgor
if I die on tyr, then: game is bad / tank is bad / heals are bad
🤔

But arms is very good versus high burst hits
Servers still down?
You’d want to do 2x BSL wrists/neck if you me comp doesn’t need the extra cr
u can pre stack IP etc,
How are the servers not up man wtf Is this
yes
wtf this shit still down
Arms is insanely immortal this season vs bosses
This loses you the least amount of main stat from a craft
It's all just 1shots
No trickle dmg
I thought you can only get 1 ignore pain as arms?
ok i changed finger to go that way, better ?
You can pre-stack IP 3x
between OCE and Icon, it depends on what your group is running or is there a superior choice for us? (M+)
No there’s a second where it comes off CD and you can stack it
IP stacks as long as you avoid floor
12sec buff, 11sec cd
Before it falls off
😉
probably pips if no one has oce or icon
So you can pre-stack it several times
i recommend simming it in dslice and 5 target etc

I'm heavily considering buying call to chaos
raidbot is good for siim or do you guys have a better one ?


Yea that doesn’t look bad. With crit phial and fiesty fish you should be sitting good.
Simming yourself using raidbots will find the better optimization, but they look good frok where I am
Raidbots is the only place to sim
It’s great for m+ so I don’t see why not
Yeah like, in pugs you ain't running oce/icon
Call to chaos go brrrrr
When that shit procs during puzzlebox+cds
Never noticed that ngl.
Neltharions call to chaos is good vs oce and icon if your group has neither @obsidian wave
You ascend to heaven
I mean I’m running icon rn because I got it on heroic and it’s just an easy stat stick but I’ll def be looking to get call to chaos at some point
For now though ring is kinda bigly
Love anvil
I'll either grab that or cape then this week @thick kelp ty
Thought icon was good even with just healer/good enough if it's just you. From sims I've seen
Hoping for heroic anvil in my vault.
Why not grab diurna
Does anyone know if many healer specs want icon?
servers not up for another 2 hrs ish?
It’s pretty good just you by itself
@loud lance what is your character name and server?
idk if they fixed this but the boots used to not proc on interrupts but only on charge and stormbolt
I think they fixed it though
Yeah I was considering buying this bullion or next
I just wanna open my vault
big oof
Mybullisred-Hyjal
with how long the servers have been down today I was able to get all my weeks worth of work done so I can play all week
Pretty sure ring is the biggest upgrade outside of legendary if you don’t already have the ring
At least it is for me
hint: its gonna be buggy af
OCE no buff vs ICON healer + dps
every patch they take hours they fuck smt up and its a cluster fuck of buggs
like I said I think they fixed it but it was relatively okay because you charged every pack anyway and the charge shockwave procced it
Ring is like a free 10k dps for me
and this is icon heal + dps VS heroic 522 OCE with all buffs
Hard to pass up considering we should easily apply it
Yeah it is for me also, but I have no trinkets from raid and personally buying trinket is not super behind ring even with no allies. Probably will buy ring anyway since more people will have icon in 2 bullions instead of this next one
do we have info about the ''2 bullions rumor week'' or not ?
sure but that still expects your healer to run it
nothing confirmed yet
ok thanks
I typically -bribe- blackmail healers with “use it or I won’t interrupt”
Heard a couple of healers specs wanted it, not sure tho
it'll be the first thing I am checking when realms go up
Guys was nelths call to chaos very rare?
yes
this is Dslice sim
Sorry got funneled gear on same level as tmy 
imagine
@loud lance https://www.raidbots.com/simbot
You can use this to sim yourself. Downloading the simulation craft addon is needed to get your inventory, and you can select items/gems/enchants to see what provides the best DPS
It can be done for single target or AoE
The easiest way to use SimulationCraft. A resource for World of Warcraft players.
ok sir thank you vm, i just watched '' best equipment '' and now i go on this
mastery rune on wepon & crit flask is the best ?
or crit weapon too ?
Same
fuck cleave
Facts
how much additional hit do arms warrs need in addition to wearing power assisted lifting belt?
I don't think there is a single context where CtC won't proc considering DN and WW being part of the ST rotation
And TC too
this sounds like classic stuff
Cleave really is poop
check out ther fight club discord probably
Was the aspect's crest cap always 360 or did they do a sneaky patch while I wasn't looking
server up
360 is this weeks cap
It’s 120 each week
what are yall getting from bullion i simmed and it says pips is better than chrom.. is that true if no one has chrom? as well whispering icon (m+)
Server is up. Im in.
real
man them over the shoulder capes, i whish they made em actually a whole cape and not just a tissue hanging from each shoulder
oooh that's a good look
What secondaries are we focusing on this patch? WoWhead has our prio for S2 and S3 but not S4
what ilvl hardmode drops?
doti? Heroic
doti
509
Would probably use crit rune on weapon, that should get you to 38% crit
is puzzle viable in raid?
hero track right
absolutely
yes, hero track
ty ty
dope, got a myth one in vault
guess i got my icon
leech vs speed, my nemesis
real
should i not get chromatic?
nah i already die from leggo already
Pog ruby whelp shell
Good boots
ring isnt too bad?
diurna + eranogg ring hardlocked
yeah thats what im getting
idol of trampling hooves is good right
Fyr’alath who?
imagine getting 3 rings in your vault on double bullion day
got these yesterday, omw to catalize
weekly is superbloom......
yikes
first
that's pretty garbage 
omw
Gl to my warriors brothers and sisters* on their vaults
lmfao
Is Grieftorch even good for us?
just pay 3 bucks dude
Otherwise i will just get the 522 chest and catalyst it

its fine but mostly a parsers tool in runs where lots of ppl die
still about the best on use damage you can get
keep in mind it has highest potential probably
its like ret wings
but accessible for everyone
Do we get the usual one bullion this week along with the 3 from quest
ngl this eminem medieval thing is kinda fire
Or just guest
i like to give things 102% effort
It’s a fun trinket
^
depends on if you ran that sim with the chromatic string
i cant stop winning this season and last with the vault gods
i heard grieftorch is scaling with monk hitcombo atm
And the chest might be a very, very big upgrade for me, lol
yes but u can also get myth chest anywhere
I'd probably go grieftorch
raid, x vault slots can drop a chest or already a tier chest
I'm gonna sim rly quick
i hope orc as a race gets reworked
cant believe orc of all the races is one of the worse for warrior
makes no sense
It ain't troll but it's definitely not as bad as the furries
Do you guys hear that?
I have garbo 473 trinkets I snap the whispering incarnate icon right?
furries got a massive quality of life
I can't complain a lot but the amount of trinkets in here...
the sound of a hundred thousand Vaults of Disappointment open simultaneously to the sighs of a hundred thousand people
team, i got OCE in vault. Do i get Incarnate icon or something else? I am using puzzle box in my second trinket spot.
The tier helm would be good too I have a heroic boe in my bags I was waiting to use until the reset xD For this exact kind of reason lol
I'm going for cape since it sims the best. Scared I might regret the idol trink though.
Hello, didnt play last season so I dont have legendary wep. If it drops for me would I have to spend buillions on it to upgrade or its already new ilvl cause of being awakened?
Would have to spend bullions
If you have 0 BLP you’re pretty unlikely to get it first kill. Wouldn’t worry about it until you have it. Awakened weapon will also reward free upgrading essentially
i saw the king live in the flesh
would it be bad to use oce and incarnate icon if I have them both? not sold on signet yet with how short fights are
0 good options 0 tertiary stats. Sadge
Upgrading chest from champ to myth I guess 🤷🏻♂️
sockets?
Imagine having to choose
not a bad vault when considering I can nab seal this week
hc 
easy choice take myth track item and use bullion on seal
Ring is a good choice for arms?
Take 2x socket and bullion ring
Dragon games equipment 100%
Don’t actually
Two bullion quest confirmed?
Yes
yep
Awesome
Go get your slime cat this week
And collect 5x weapon transmog son your 3 alt warriors 😂
is lfg bugged for you guys too
yes ring is a very solid choice, saves you a builion purchase for later
For pocket anvil, do you just macro it to all your abilities for consistency?
no
Archi had a post about this earlier, but you'll use the macro described here, you just press your button twice and it's good to go
#arms message
I would recommend against macroing it personally
yeah you get 1 per week
can someone help me on what to take? Is it the neck from nokhud? its on the bis list for m+ on wowhead
dgn finder bugged ;c
I assumed the quest would be in lieu of the raid bullion
since it gives 2
Your sim can identify items from vault
lol
lol
sheeesh
nej
idk what ilvl it drops lmao
That's 519 min
ok not so good then
no sadly
still nice ig considering
Would push awakened incarnate icon down the list a bit
what in the fuck blizzard

Thank you.
well damn
Is there also
Fry’alath=true?
Also don’t move while “casting” or it fucks the macro until the next MS
ok boys
is blue silken lining the go?
or for the non mechanic gamers is 2x sf better
apparently on wowhead says 1% better at 60% uptime
doesn't look like it
bit sadge as i have boots and pants at s3 ilvl
is 1x sf and molten sabatons a go? or 2x sf atleast
Dangit, I hate inviting 515 ret paladins with legs and dairy
I would go 2x Bsl
myth puzzy wuzzy pog
You’ll have it up on pull during your burst so you’ll probably be good
I get 60% uptime very easily
I don’t play perfectly myself
Learn to press IP and spell reflect more
And you actually do not need 60%
It starts winning before that
if i have normal tier gloves and a 476 neck, which of these 2 would you suggest? i'm leaning gloves becuase it's myth track and i can get a neck somewhere else, but another part of me really wants rid of the 476 neck lol
how do we feel bout hooves?
It’s aight
Very seldom is taking a farmable hero track worth it over myth
it's agonizing how bad the DPS is in pugs
Also, necks and rings are stat balancers, even at 476 they could be a big win over a higher ilvl less optimized stat
That’s actually just the Arms warrior hidden passive
ok thanks for the feedback guys, i also sneaky wanted the neck for eventual turn-in for the mount i never got but the ethical choice is gloves, your'e right
so who else got garbage from their vault 🙌
back to farming nokhud for the rest of my life
😄
as in the bullion mount?
Whats a good test of might % and how can I improve
nah, the one for turning in dathea and terros necks
ohhh
i've had terros neck sitting in my bank since season 1
how much should we prioritize signet brand seen some saying its overrated
30-36
I usually get
Used be higher with IP
eh
Solid choice
if i have Hero Track Puzzle Box and mostly care about M+, what second trinket should i get with Bullion?
Lot of options tbh
Augury is never simming great but last season it looked like it was doing a lot in keys
Yeah why is that?
wdym „eh“
And rampage hits 4 times
and also because in general arms likes str on trinkets
🤔 maybe more crit would be nice
Phial rune and food will fix
36???
I'm using both
Unless that’s buffed. Then yoinks

For ToM?
26-30% without buffs is normal
Yup
Usually 26-33, I’ve definitely had 36 though
I’ve only had above 32% in execute window or during BL with good proc
LMAO facts
I’d probably say on the average without caring or taking a pull seriously, it’s probably 18-24%
Sometimes I just vibe and enjoy myself 😄
do we want to align with blue as arms when we get chromatic essence?
i thought emerald
I would say so, but keep in mind that you need all 5 types for OCE to be max effective
You would need to sim the buffs
To actually know witch one is best for your character
I don't know the color but prob crit right?
Signet needs long fights to be good.
And on short fight Puzzlebox instead of signet?
For raid, OCE and signet
tyty
what's the alternative?
It is good on the longer fights like raz/fyrakk/sark
whats the secodn best raid trink
I personally would run OCE
got ti
It is behind without all buffs
what next
Isn't signet only bad on target swap fights?
But eventually everyone will have one
i have OCE. so what should i get next?
Farm a puzzle box

