#arms

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raven ivy
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I stand with my shoulder towards them to maximize dps

rapid bronze
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bigger dps than aiming cleave at them tbh

rich flower
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im stucked with augury and cataclysm both from season 3 so idk if i should go for a trink buy or eranog's

rapid bronze
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have you tried just looting good trinkets?

rich flower
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oh yea i tried

rapid bronze
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damn

rich flower
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sadly i dont have too much time to do a lot of dungeons to get those trinkets, but i did like 20 academys and nothing dropped yet sadge

rapid bronze
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I was lucky I got the nelth trinket and anvil from raid, and 2 blazebinders -_-

rich flower
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like in sims all 4 trinkets are higher upgrade for me than the eranog ring

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anvil cata icon and oce

smoky kayak
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oh no, wowhead actually gets paid extra for bullshit

rich flower
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but its because you know, i lack good trinkets so its trivial that those would sim higher right, which confuses me if i should go for an insta upgrade instead of getting an high contested bis item

smoky kayak
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Yeah every time you click, it actually generates an extra bullshit tax

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people pay a nice premium for that, it's true

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Wait really? Is that how it works?

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Please, tell me more hmmMeeting2

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yes, I'm clearly fucking with you because I'm "hurt"

honest girder
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Ok I’m sold

tiny dock
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i don't see any reason why they shouldn't get paid for running their website

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whats wrong with that lmao

raven ivy
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I click everything Archi posts to funnel his income stream

frigid lava
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Does archi get paid more for it

raven ivy
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He gets extra from me specifically

full merlin
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archi is my hero

smoky kayak
raven ivy
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No amount of money can be worth having to deal with #arms and #fury at the same time

tiny dock
smoky kayak
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sorry, I meant to reply to him

tiny dock
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all g

smoky kayak
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you, ya fuckin nugget

frigid lava
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I read it ogrimmar contender. I'm getting drunk

smoky kayak
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idk if that's supposed to be a good thing or a bad, but congrats? 🤔

honest girder
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What a mong

turbid folio
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Is ~5 min still the rule of thumb for fight length CSB needs to get max value? My guild is killing a lot of bosses in under that time even this early on so I am debating picking anvil.

bold jolt
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Oce with next bullion?

novel hollow
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Aug

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Or go arms

smoky kayak
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idk man, you're just giving off really weird conspiracy theorist energy, like how dare a website actually make money to pay its staff

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not to mention how everything posted must be clickbaity bullshit as a result

novel hollow
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I dont click on clickbait stuff because i know its gonna be clickbait

hazy flower
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You dont know how it works though archi

novel hollow
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And theyll make money off clickbait and ill waste time

livid cloak
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For stat stick trinkets as someone who only pugs, would you recommend pips over icon or oce?

olive nest
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Guys what’s “wowhead”

livid cloak
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Would it have more consistent value?

olive nest
smoky kayak
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I mean it literally is that easy - if you don't like a subject, don't fuckin click on it lol

novel hollow
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But better

smoky kayak
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but here's the real brain busters for you

  • if you stop clicking on it, websites will stop promoting it
fossil thistle
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Wowhead is kinda what happens when you first meet a girl and…

smoky kayak
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like you know why tier lists still exist, despite pretty much everyone recognizing that they're subjective and useless?

Because people fucking love to click on that shit and argue about it

sour forge
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Tbf clickbait is like status quo no matter which site you’re on

hazy flower
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Pretty sure u can make your own server with wowhead bot and adjust the settings on it? Unless wowhead bot is for premium only

sour forge
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Look at YouTube lol

smoky kayak
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you did actually, but more importantly, your initial comment was aime at the dinar quest post being clickbait which is... the complete opposite?

Also what the fuck does diablo posts being annoying have to do with anything? you can literally opt out of seeing those (also annoying =! clickbait)

novel hollow
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Hopefully TWW will bring back warrior dps from the dead

smoky kayak
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that's not clickbait though, you need to brush up on your definitions

fathom shoal
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Where's my popcorn

tough steppe
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I want to play deadge

smoky kayak
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clickbait refers to a title which states something contradictory to the body of the article

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just because tier lists are fucking stupid doesn't inherently make them clickbait

tiny dock
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i love tier lists

smoky kayak
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BiS gear lists are also fucking stupid, but not clickbait

raven ivy
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Site needs money to run = posts stuff that people will click on mad weird concept tbh

fossil thistle
opaque citrus
smoky kayak
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you're the one who has been picking fights lol

smoky kayak
novel hollow
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Buff heroic throw by 13.67% pls

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Should fix the issue

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Also buff heroic leap damage by 11.637377%

sour forge
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Lmao

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He gone

fossil thistle
novel hollow
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Will also fix the issue

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We gonna be meta

tough steppe
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Man

reef glade
smoky kayak
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fuckin weirdchamp energy man

raven ivy
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Imagine not being able to play the game rn

fathom shoal
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I appreciate you archim 🙂

frigid lava
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serveerrrrrupyet?

fossil thistle
tough steppe
frigid lava
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savage

fossil thistle
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(It’s a joke don’t attack me)

novel hollow
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We need heroic throw and heroic leap damage buffed and we gonna be gigachad gamers

reef glade
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die fury die

novel hollow
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Top dps chars

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Charts

frigid lava
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They are probably up 5%

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fury they are

raven ivy
novel hollow
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+11.7747478% and more random ass number buffs pls

sharp wyvern
livid cloak
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I assumed the guy flipping the bird in his pfp would have better takes tbh

frigid lava
smoky kayak
# fossil thistle I keep saying, give us a war banner we can throw down that gives us Bloodlust/he...

as fun of an idea as giving Warriors lust is

  • They're not gonna make Prot the only lust tank
  • Lust itself is extremely minimal in keys; the difference between natural lust and drums is so small it will not do anything to "fix" Warrior utility

Instead, what will happen is people will celebrate for a week, quickly realize their spot in the "meta" is completly unchanged, and go right back to complaining

sharp wyvern
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mages dont count

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just like warlocks

raven ivy
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There is always some dude who has to die on a hill that doesn't matter for anyone and they always pick dumb fights then resort to dumb stuff and then get banned

novel hollow
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Warr no utility

mellow seal
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today is a good day my 16th herioc kill on furrussi

sharp wyvern
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yeah warrior was trash in pvp since classic

raven ivy
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Cant believe NECRO BANNED wasnt a talent

tiny dock
frigid lava
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incorporeal this week and afflicted next week

sharp wyvern
livid cloak
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Battle shout, blade storm, Battlestar Galactica

tiny dock
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shout a mfer back to life

frigid lava
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"wake the fuck up, do some dps"

fossil thistle
smoky kayak
novel hollow
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BL is more lore accurate lol

smoky kayak
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It would be neat
It wouldn't "work" insofar as changing the meta

novel hollow
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Shouting ur allies braincells out

tiny dock
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fuck their fantasy

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fine

timber lynx
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idk i would love banners still

tiny dock
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how about they give everyone a brez, but put it under first aid

timber lynx
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Skull banner or something of the sort

raven ivy
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I still think warriors should have an immunity because they are so angry they refuse to die

tiny dock
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it'll be a 5 second cast called CPR

novel hollow
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Giving them haste and then recklessly killing shit

fossil thistle
molten timber
novel hollow
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But banner

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"Gigachad banner"

sharp wyvern
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ew

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no need to have a CR with new engi things

novel hollow
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Its BR

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Not CR

sharp wyvern
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its the same

sharp wyvern
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also game calls it combat

novel hollow
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Its annoying to look for dead allies ass

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Cuz u want to rezz

quartz cedar
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Is it 3pm PST yet??

raven ivy
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servers up

molten timber
sharp wyvern
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go check dungeon quest asap

reef glade
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they up now??

raven ivy
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rn

violet steeple
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They are not

opaque citrus
reef glade
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na

molten timber
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💀

raven ivy
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who you trusting huh

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Me or these nerds

reef glade
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clearly not u

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💀

violet steeple
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Get wrcked nerd

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LEWL

reef glade
sharp wyvern
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he is named after a haircut of course you trust him

violet steeple
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Swordish with the execute

fossil thistle
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Servers are in fact still asleep

raven ivy
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Trust me

fossil thistle
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You haven’t even bought me dinner yet

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Feisty Fish Sticks please and thank you

rapid bronze
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man all these guys who want to give warriors utility to buff their teammates when I'd gladly take a talent that increases my dps by 1% but I do friendly fire damage to allies

unborn canyon
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give defensive utility back to warrior

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like misshapen mirror

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to give allies SR

rapid bronze
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I still think they can solve 99% of warrior utility issues if they made this pvp talent a pve one

fossil thistle
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We have a passive right now called “Carry the Team” where we just tend to do 5-20% more dps then the group

novel hollow
fossil thistle
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I’m by no means a good warrior (solid 75-85% parser) and it kinda happens even with people who are arguably better

reef glade
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roar buff would be way too broken

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but yea rest sounds cool

novel hollow
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So that i could do highest group damage and pad most due to killing pumpers

teal fossil
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Roar and bshout won’t be there

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Rest can stay

novel hollow
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We need more CC's for that reason

sharp wyvern
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people like you are end up on the bench

rapid bronze
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HOLD ROAR INFERNAL IS UP IN 30 SECONDS

azure goblet
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There seem to be many arms users who use Irideus instead of puzz box.
What do you think about it?

novel hollow
abstract verge
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NA friends, can u confirm the emissary of war quest?

rapid bronze
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servers are still down

violet steeple
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We cannot because servers are down homie

proper moth
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No utility just more dam

abstract verge
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Damn

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Keep us posted

novel hollow
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Nice name

abstract verge
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Also wowhed posted

abstract verge
novel hollow
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Beautiful

unborn canyon
fossil thistle
novel hollow
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My mission in s4 is to kill echo 50 times by killing and stunning people

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Awakened mount and 2 more portals

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As long as im having fun i like it

sharp wyvern
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awakened mount ?

novel hollow
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Ye

sharp wyvern
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whats that

novel hollow
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3 raids and u get that worm shit

reef glade
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the god awful fox worm

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crazy recolor turned into slight remodel with disgusting marshmallow mouth

sharp wyvern
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didnt even know thats a thing

novel hollow
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Got up to 1950io single affix so should be KSH after reset

reef glade
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clowns cant even think up a good mount

novel hollow
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And then ill spam echo

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And spread toxicity

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Ooga booga warr brain int shout their ass

sharp wyvern
fossil thistle
novel hollow
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I had a 13 key

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No one queued

sharp wyvern
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imagine doing anything above 9

novel hollow
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Cuz low rio

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Skipped week1

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Im still 505 only

rapid bronze
sly venture
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I'm tanking m+ to get Arms gear, 9+ with 483 gear is so bad gameplay

fossil thistle
novel hollow
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Good idea

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Might tank for gear too

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Speedrun

sly venture
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get a shield and a sword, dont do me

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xD

novel hollow
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I have crafted s3

sharp wyvern
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i got to 2500 season over for me as far as m+ is concerned

novel hollow
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1h and shield

sharp wyvern
delicate mulch
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Average about 460k a dung

sharp wyvern
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cool story

delicate mulch
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Lmao

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This was NO

fossil thistle
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About the same. I’m around 375-400k/dungeon but I’m still using S3 augury and a 502 irideus:( 508 ilvl

delicate mulch
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That was at 510

quartz cedar
delicate mulch
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Frag simmed like 2k higher dps for me

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Then box

fossil thistle
tiny dock
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i'm wondering if it's the gear that is really going to jump my dps or if it's just lack of rotation knowledge

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I'm 505 and usually end with 300k overall in m+

sacred zodiac
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probably both

sharp wyvern
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maybe wrong build ?

tiny dock
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i've been watching mr critcake lately and trying to follow the way he lines up his cds for big aoe

sharp wyvern
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also algethar is an outlier so dont take that as baseline

tiny dock
sharp wyvern
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its in general only big pulls

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except the bird platform

delicate mulch
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Yeee the 515k was NO

tiny dock
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you guys all rocking the lego too?

delicate mulch
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Yea full upgrade

violet steeple
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AA is such a dream bro

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I finished at like 800k or some shit the other day

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We love it

tiny dock
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jealous

violet steeple
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Aug/BRM

smoky kayak
violet steeple
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I use both rn

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Pls kill me I'm not ok

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Double on use is so cancer

smoky kayak
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that's certainly an option lol

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I got hooked up with Nelth's big CoC in Mythic Aberrus, so everything is gucci for me

violet steeple
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Got a nice big flashy WA that yells at me when 2nd trinky is usable

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It's been ok, but I don't love it lol

smoky kayak
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guess you could always try to precast PBox and just keep fragment macro'd to Avatar for the offset use, but yeah I try to avoid that juggle if I can

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I don't even like casting Anvil lol, which is why I made a macro for it!

violet steeple
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That's what I do tbh

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I have puzzle on its own, press pre-pull, and I macro'd frag into bs+ava, whichever it's up with and aligns 1st I send

opaque citrus
violet steeple
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It only uses 1 tick during Bs and the strength seems to scale w hurricane so it's honestly pretty pog

opaque citrus
violet steeple
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It's just not super fun to use

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And the mastery is pretty sick for M+ at least as well

fossil thistle
clear thistle
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So with the two bullions from M+ what's the best item to buy here? Is it the Eggnog ring?

fossil thistle
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Sim upgrades 😄 you’ll likely end up wanting a seal anyways.
And if we get 2 bullions from weekly quest, we get to buy another item next week.

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Personally skipping over signet brand for ST until later as I got a heroic one last week. So I’ll likely be getting a seal or chromatic essence

thick kelp
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sim 3-4 min fight timer

candid kindle
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Its prob gonna b eggnog ring, alghou im concerned bc the fact that ring has no haste, and ill lose a ton of haste

fossil thistle
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Just get other gear with haste 🤣 it all balances out eventually

smoky kayak
smoky kayak
somber lance
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what's the anvil macro? just put it on OP?

smoky kayak
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now you're onto something

candid kindle
smoky kayak
fossil thistle
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Ffs

smoky kayak
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use that, press it twice very quickly

fossil thistle
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It takes me too long to type that

violet steeple
smoky kayak
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make sure you use the #showtooltip text or your keybind will flip back and forth between showing MS or Anvil (not that it hurts anything, just distracting)

somber lance
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appreciate you guys

gloomy anvil
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Is that macro going to mess with the GCDs? Like I usually have the pocket anvil on a separate button cuz I press it after I press a GCD

smoky kayak
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no, that's the entire point of it - it will never cast Anvil on the GCD

fossil thistle
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You use it during GCD

gloomy anvil
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Ah is that the reset-0/7 thing?

smoky kayak
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correct

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a normal macro like this will try to use both actions simultaneously and whichever one confirms first is what goes off

/use something else```
gloomy anvil
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Hmm, maybe I'll try it out although I'd hate for anvil to be used right before a boss pull or something when clearing trash

smoky kayak
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so if you put Anvil and MS or something there, and use it 0.1s before the GCD is up, it'll cast Anvil anyway and delay your GCD

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but a castsequence macro only casts in sequence - it cannot proceed to the next step in the sequence until the previous has been completed, so in other words, it cannot cast Anvil until Mortal Strike has been cast

The 0.7s reset is to ensure that it'll happen before even the fastest 100% haste GCD is up, so Anvil will only ever happen during the GCD without interrupting your rotation

opaque citrus
wild plover
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How do i deactivate those buffs on Friendly plater nameplates in Plater weird

smoky kayak
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uninstall plater, ez

opaque citrus
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Press shift-v more ez

smoky kayak
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press shift-z, even better

fossil thistle
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Just disable your UI

smoky kayak
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or is it control z? I forget

smoky kayak
fossil thistle
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immersion

opaque citrus
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Alt Z

smoky kayak
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damn

wild plover
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Just deinstall WoW

timber lynx
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just delete everything in the contents of your wow folder

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yeah exactly

smoky kayak
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just turn off your monitor tbh, never worry about low FPS again

opaque citrus
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Fr tho maybe check plater discord

fossil thistle
opaque citrus
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@wild plover

next flame
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for crafted gear torc is BIS with bracers?

smoky kayak
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yeah idk, I don't use plater - I'm a tidyplates kinda gamer (i.e. fucking ancient)

fossil thistle
opaque citrus
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With one of those ugly ass wotlk era themed UIs

fossil thistle
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Titan Panel and xperl baby

wild plover
fossil thistle
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Don’t throw shade

dusk bough
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xpearl XD

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holy dating yourself

fossil thistle
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Brother

opaque citrus
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And I’m just like what the actual fuck

fossil thistle
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My warrior was made December December 25th 2004 😎

dusk bough
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I miss being young honestly

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old warrior soul sounding more like a mood and less like a trinket

fossil thistle
somber lance
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its kind of annoying that SS is on the gcd

smoky kayak
opaque citrus
fossil thistle
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Can we all remember peggle add on. That was Goat.

smoky kayak
opaque citrus
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Look I started in shadowlands ok I’m trying my best

fossil thistle
somber lance
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i think maximum uses recount

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idk why

opaque citrus
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Recount must be bis then

nimble basin
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Another bullion item and crafted item, hype reset tbf.

fossil thistle
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Remember when everyone during late tbc/early wotlk would use Xperl, i can’t remember the name of the addon that let you put custom art/solid black bars on the top and bottom of your screen, use sexy map and made your UI look like it’s from WC3? 😂😂 definitely rocked that for a long time

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I guess I shouldn’t say everyone. But everyone I knew did

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Looked like this basically.

fickle nexus
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Addon packs

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What they were called

naive sage
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ThreatPlates xeos

steep osprey
naive sage
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Talking about old addons

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I still use Mik Scrolling Combat Text

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I set it up quite precisely to my taste

fickle nexus
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I went away for awhile came back and felt like msct was spamming my screen

smoky kayak
fossil thistle
latent hull
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ClassicNumbers is the best addon

fickle nexus
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I think now if I wanted it I'd just reduce what was allowed to go thru. Having every single passive dot flooding the screen was yikes

opaque ferry
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guys i died 2 times in a 16 bh. How do i avoid this cast ?

balmy agate
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Whats the best build to parse Gnarlroot?

fossil thistle
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Oh wait that’s generic gooo ability

opaque ferry
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yes

fossil thistle
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You can try ranging it? Otherwise defensive reeally

dire hinge
reef glade
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It’s the little withered biters after third boss

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idk yea u just either try to max melee range em a bit or stun them

fossil thistle
reef glade
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i think they just randomly cast it on someone near them

fossil thistle
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Mythic I always took a partial M+ build for add damage 🤷🏻‍♂️

fading tree
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What are people going for second crafted item?

balmy agate
somber lance
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you guys keeping pot for exe phase on gnarl?

steep osprey
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They’re still here

wicked aurora
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Servers up?

steep osprey
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No

dire hinge
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parsing was mostly getting through intermission fast / possibly having adds alive during intermisison to hit throughout to prevent you from hitting 0dps for too long

opaque citrus
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I assume you get enough aoe just from DN/SS

lost zodiac
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Is there an easy way to sim OCE with 3 buffs only vs WII

hazy flower
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no other way as war

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well except for dbts

lost zodiac
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The upfront dam shouldn’t kill you, but the bleed will iirc

fossil thistle
final rover
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guys does the puzzle box bladestorm macro not work anymore?

hazy flower
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and there can be a couple of these in 1 pull

fossil thistle
karmic forge
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Any americans confirm the bullion weekly

hazy flower
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looking at one of my keys from s2 it was doing ~ 60% of my hp in initial hit at high-ish key

fossil thistle
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I’d drop one point.
But I only had to when we were lacking add damage which was only our first kill or two

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You can run the reduced roar CD on Igira too, but it’s negligible 🤷🏻‍♂️
First 3 just go ST, for dream council I went ST and would swap for improved sweeping strikes

dire hinge
# final rover guys does the puzzle box bladestorm macro not work anymore?

it works with the free bladestorm you get from Avatar, but Puzzlebox itself now has a GCD associated with it. This means two things:

  1. If your macro has other on-gcd spells, it wont work
  2. Avatar-given bladestorm (Blademaster's Torment talent) isn't taken much currently, since it's not as strong as just "single bladestorm", comparatively.

They did increase puzzlebox's duration from 20sec to 30sec though, so you can just pre-cast puzzlebox before your opener and it's not a big deal

teal tundra
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if I dont have the legendary, what should I buy for bullions? Since it seems trinkets are from dungeons and idk if augury/torch is viable for arms

dire hinge
karmic forge
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ahhh

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ok ty ty

fossil thistle
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Some people went war breaker + bladestorm but I don’t think it was a good choice when you rarely get 3 target cleave (opener, and maybe once during the fight?)

dire hinge
fossil thistle
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@balmy agate if you look at top logs during S3, nothing would have changed really

balmy agate
fossil thistle
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If you have terrible root damage on tindral? Maybe? Still should be fine with sweeping strike on every root 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Root problem solution for tindral is just being another ret Paladin tbh

olive nest
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DN hits roots hard

untold aspen
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yo guys is going 2/2 bloodborne worth in brackenhide 15?

mortal crag
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if i choose augury of the primal flame tomorrow for my buillon purchase, is it good on arms or is it literally useless?

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since id like to have a trinket thats good on both specs

teal fossil
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It’s mediocre for arms

olive nest
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Depends on comp probably

teal fossil
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Ngl arms just doesn’t have a lot of tools for totem

olive nest
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We’re basically forced to run double on use

teal fossil
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Miss sks from s2

olive nest
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For BH

fossil thistle
mortal crag
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i have seal already

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got it on vault lul

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i do m+ and would like to be able to play fury AT SOME POINT IN THIS TIER 🙂

fossil thistle
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Silent star cloak then maybe

mortal crag
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i thought abt it but its a huge stam loss for m+

fossil thistle
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You also get 2nd craft this week

obsidian wave
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How are y'all talking about bullion purchase? We should only have 3 total now?

fossil thistle
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Negligible

mortal crag
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not negligible if u play arms and push 15-16s

fossil thistle
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Damage gain too stronk for pressing S key, silent star and press W

fringe moon
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pretty sure for most of us, today's purchases are

  1. Buillon: Seal of Diurna
  2. Spark: Upgrade allied bracers
mortal crag
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okay and 2nd buillon?

fossil thistle
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Tbh if you’re pushing 15/16s right now you probably should know how to sim and prioritize what you select 😄

mortal crag
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ah wait

#

2nd buillon is next week

#

mb

#

lul

obsidian wave
#

Ya you're high

robust ridge
#

Ye it's 1 purchase this week

mortal crag
#

but

#

i also dont play arms

obsidian wave
#

1st purchase was last week

wild plover
#

OCE sims way better for me than Seal though 😮

mortal crag
#

for more than 2 weeks

#

so im unfamiliar with arms sims etc

rare kite
mortal crag
#

and i specifiedi want something for both fury and arms

mortal crag
#

i referred to 2nd buillon from raid

rare kite
#

@obsidian wave

mortal crag
#

next week u can buy another buillon iem

obsidian wave
#

Ok so this is like giga victory lap vibes then

fossil thistle
#

Simming is simming

If you want something for both specs just look at bullion purchase prio and find what’s shared

rare kite
fossil thistle
#

He said he has seal of dps already

fringe moon
mortal crag
#

but the "shared" ones are not good for m+

#

apart from puzzle

#

which is farmable

rare kite
obsidian wave
#

@rare kite if I already got leggo upgrade, and have normal-raid version of both rings, should I go for cape? Or still get awakened track ring
fire ring capped at 515, shield ring capped at 522

fossil thistle
fossil thistle
boreal quartz
#

oce

#

or eranog

rare kite
olive nest
#

I’m going Diurna’s unless it’s in my vault

fossil thistle
#

TL;DR

olive nest
#

And otherwise OCE unless that’s in my vault

obsidian wave
#

icyveins says my bis trinks are box and hooves (which I have). I only care about pushing m+
Is OCE still needed?

olive nest
#

OCE is large for aoe

timber lynx
#

No but icon in m+ if ur group runs it is very strong

fossil thistle
#

Still really strong

olive nest
#

Stats always are great for aoe

thick kelp
#

hooves for m+ is silly

#

go pbox

#

if u only care m+

#

oce is not as great as u probably wont have all buffs unless in a full stack

fossil thistle
#

Whispering incarnate icon is good if it’s x3, I think it pulls ahead of OCE. A bit?

obsidian wave
#

I'm running both pbox and hooves like it says. For OCE it's only good if the whole group runs it or? (never used this trink before)

thick kelp
#

you could get more value from icon if u have a healer running it aswell

#

You can sim

#

if no one else is running it

#

and compare it to others

#

otherwise pips might be a decent pickup aswell

#

as a stat stick

fringe moon
#

is there a target cap on Storm-Eaters Boon/

olive nest
#

Billion

thick kelp
#

I recommend doing droptimizer for the s4 vendor

#

and set oce and icon as no others

obsidian wave
#

is the signet brand trinket suggestion on icyveins also wrong?

thick kelp
#

signet brand is very inconsistent for m+

rare kite
thick kelp
#

requires tank to chain pull with no downtime

dire hinge
#

not "wrong" persay, just only good in long raid fights of 4min+ or so

thick kelp
olive nest
#

Definitely would avoid signet in keys

dire hinge
#

gocha, yeah if you're ever out of combat for more than 15sec it loses a signficant amount of value, not worth it

#

too many dungeons with forced RP or walking that trip that metric unavoidably

thick kelp
#

one of the council trinkets would be a great pick depending if you only soloq or have a healer premade

fossil thistle
thick kelp
#

Icon with a healer only is great value, OCE needs 4-5 ppl in dungeon group to run it

obsidian wave
#

this is my current setup -- you would still suggest Diurna's ring > star cape with bullions*?

thick kelp
#

and pips provides great value if no others

fringe moon
thick kelp
thick kelp
#

and get a BSL slot in cape + neck

#

and as arms losing the stam in higher keys on Tyra is Cringe

obsidian wave
#

What is cr wrists and BSL clueless

olive nest
#

Combat Resurrect

#

Blue silken linen

swift pulsar
#

What second craft upgrade are you all going for this week?

olive nest
#

Neck with BSL

fossil thistle
#

Vers bracers

fossil thistle
#

😎

obsidian wave
#

Ty -- I have the brez bracers on currently because I kept grouping with teams without one lol

olive nest
#

Neck/wrist BSL
Or
Neck BSL / Wrist Vers

thick kelp
olive nest
#

I did vers wrists week 1 so I’ll have that combo until next craft

#

Planning to go 2x BSL

thick kelp
#

bsl will hve massive uptime during trash pulls in m+ as they have no rot to make you dip below 90%

#

and you will still get most of your burst out with BSL up

#

even if said rot is there in a pack

olive nest
#

It’s up during your burst

#

Lorge

fossil thistle
obsidian wave
#

Impunity boots are a meme? Even though I'm constantly interrupting

thick kelp
olive nest
thick kelp
#

you gain 2k mastery from running that combo and mastery value sky rockets in aoe

obsidian wave
#

Oh shit 2k is a lot

loud lance
#

Hello all, classic warrior new on DF since last season. kinda noob compared to others. Here is my war atm, do i focus the good stats or am i wrong ?

obsidian wave
#

After BSL neck, if I want to keep my brez bracers, what other embellishment would you suggest?

fossil thistle
#

But just look how powerful it is

teal tundra
#

so 2x BSL > vers wrists+1xBSL for purly M+ content?

olive nest
loud lance
obsidian wave
#

Doesn't that mean I can't use Silent Star? @thick kelp

fossil thistle
olive nest
#

1x bsl/ vers wrist is about 4k behind 2x bsl in pure ST

#

And 16k behind in aoe

#

Roughly

opaque citrus
thick kelp
silk spade
thick kelp
#

I would say BSL on boots or belt if he played raid

olive nest
#

Wrists/neck

rare kite
thick kelp
#

but he said m+ only

olive nest
#

Least main stat loss

obsidian wave
#

Oh wow didn't even notice there's no stam on Silent Star. Good catch

thick kelp
#

but as zhai said you can go BSL on belt or boots if you really want silent star

#

and you see yourself staying alive on tyrannical

#

without the stam

fossil thistle
# loud lance no buffs / flask or runes

Yea, see if you can drop 3-4% mastery and get the haste up to 34%.
Currently with buffs on my warrior I’m at 44% crit, 41% haste, 24% mastery 17% vers (if I remember correctly)

obsidian wave
#

I just prayge for filial duty to proc and save me lul

fossil thistle
#

^

thick kelp
#

or so

fossil thistle
#

So only get hit once/per min

silk spade
obsidian wave
#

if I die on tyr, then: game is bad / tank is bad / heals are bad

thick kelp
#

🤔

obsidian wave
thick kelp
#

But arms is very good versus high burst hits

weary compass
#

Servers still down?

olive nest
#

You’d want to do 2x BSL wrists/neck if you me comp doesn’t need the extra cr

thick kelp
#

u can pre stack IP etc,

silk spade
#

How are the servers not up man wtf Is this

swift pulsar
sudden crest
#

wtf this shit still down

ornate eagle
#

Arms is insanely immortal this season vs bosses

olive nest
ornate eagle
#

It's all just 1shots

ornate eagle
#

No trickle dmg

fossil thistle
loud lance
ornate eagle
#

You can pre-stack IP 3x

obsidian wave
#

between OCE and Icon, it depends on what your group is running or is there a superior choice for us? (M+)

wicked aurora
olive nest
#

IP stacks as long as you avoid floor

ornate eagle
#

12sec buff, 11sec cd

wicked aurora
#

Before it falls off

ornate eagle
#

😉

thick kelp
ornate eagle
#

So you can pre-stack it several times

wicked aurora
thick kelp
#

i recommend simming it in dslice and 5 target etc

olive nest
wicked aurora
#

That’s rage I can spend on like thunderclap

ornate eagle
#

I'm heavily considering buying call to chaos

olive nest
#

Arms freakin owns guys

#

Hello

loud lance
#

raidbot is good for siim or do you guys have a better one ?

olive nest
thick kelp
fossil thistle
ornate eagle
#

Raidbots is the only place to sim

wicked aurora
thick kelp
#

o fuck yeah

#

i completely forgot

ornate eagle
#

Yeah like, in pugs you ain't running oce/icon

#

Call to chaos go brrrrr

#

When that shit procs during puzzlebox+cds

fossil thistle
thick kelp
#

Neltharions call to chaos is good vs oce and icon if your group has neither @obsidian wave

ornate eagle
#

You ascend to heaven

wicked aurora
#

I mean I’m running icon rn because I got it on heroic and it’s just an easy stat stick but I’ll def be looking to get call to chaos at some point

ornate eagle
#

But I'm also considering anvil

#

Cuz anvil pumps

wicked aurora
#

For now though ring is kinda bigly

ornate eagle
#

Love anvil

obsidian wave
#

I'll either grab that or cape then this week @thick kelp ty

silk spade
summer quartz
#

Hoping for heroic anvil in my vault.

wicked aurora
#

Why not grab diurna

silk spade
#

Does anyone know if many healer specs want icon?

final zenith
#

servers not up for another 2 hrs ish?

wicked aurora
fossil thistle
#

@loud lance what is your character name and server?

rapid bronze
#

I think they fixed it though

candid kindle
#

i understand how drug addicts whit withdrawal symptoms feel rn

#

where is server

silk spade
wicked aurora
#

I just wanna open my vault

swift pulsar
#

with how long the servers have been down today I was able to get all my weeks worth of work done so I can play all week

wicked aurora
#

At least it is for me

candid kindle
#

hint: its gonna be buggy af

candid kindle
#

every patch they take hours they fuck smt up and its a cluster fuck of buggs

rapid bronze
# obsidian wave big oof

like I said I think they fixed it but it was relatively okay because you charged every pack anyway and the charge shockwave procced it

wicked aurora
#

Ring is like a free 10k dps for me

thick kelp
#

and this is icon heal + dps VS heroic 522 OCE with all buffs

wicked aurora
#

Hard to pass up considering we should easily apply it

silk spade
loud lance
#

do we have info about the ''2 bullions rumor week'' or not ?

thick kelp
#

And this is Icon all vs oce all vs pips

#

my baseline is HC oce

ornate eagle
swift pulsar
loud lance
fossil thistle
silk spade
swift pulsar
#

it'll be the first thing I am checking when realms go up

thick kelp
#

Guys was nelths call to chaos very rare?

swift pulsar
thick kelp
#

this is Dslice sim

hazy flower
#

I was like how tf are u simming 405

#

mf

thick kelp
lone imp
#

imagine

fossil thistle
#

@loud lance https://www.raidbots.com/simbot
You can use this to sim yourself. Downloading the simulation craft addon is needed to get your inventory, and you can select items/gems/enchants to see what provides the best DPS
It can be done for single target or AoE

Raidbots

The easiest way to use SimulationCraft. A resource for World of Warcraft players.

loud lance
#

mastery rune on wepon & crit flask is the best ?

#

or crit weapon too ?

errant bough
#

fuck cleave

naive sage
tardy light
#

how much additional hit do arms warrs need in addition to wearing power assisted lifting belt?

naive sage
#

And TC too

errant bough
tardy light
#

myb

#

ty

naive sage
#

Cleave really is poop

wicked aurora
#

Cleave is ok it’s just not flashy

#

Glad it’s gonna actually do good dam next expac

silk spade
cyan lagoon
#

Was the aspect's crest cap always 360 or did they do a sneaky patch while I wasn't looking

copper summit
#

server up

wicked aurora
#

It’s 120 each week

copper summit
#

what are yall getting from bullion i simmed and it says pips is better than chrom.. is that true if no one has chrom? as well whispering icon (m+)

quartz cedar
#

Server is up. Im in.

candid kindle
#

real!

#

no srsly unironically real

dire hinge
candid kindle
#

man them over the shoulder capes, i whish they made em actually a whole cape and not just a tissue hanging from each shoulder

outer holly
#

oooh that's a good look

simple olive
#

What secondaries are we focusing on this patch? WoWhead has our prio for S2 and S3 but not S4

sudden crest
#

what ilvl hardmode drops?

outer holly
#

doti? Heroic

sudden crest
#

doti

hollow axle
#

509

fossil thistle
noble oxide
#

is puzzle viable in raid?

sudden crest
dire hinge
eternal vortex
hollow axle
#

yes, hero track

sudden crest
#

ty ty

noble oxide
eternal vortex
#

guess i got my icon

dire hinge
#

leech vs speed, my nemesis

candid kindle
copper summit
#

should i not get chromatic?

dire hinge
#

boon is a great trinket if you love dying to avoidable mechanics

#

unmatched, really

candid kindle
#

what yall listening fools

copper summit
#

nah i already die from leggo already

thorn wolf
#

Pog ruby whelp shell

thick kelp
somber lance
#

ring isnt too bad?

thick kelp
candid kindle
full merlin
#

idol of trampling hooves is good right

fossil thistle
outer holly
#

imagine getting 3 rings in your vault on double bullion day

reef glade
#

god knows i needed these

#

need boots too bit unfort

#

but w/e

#

can maybe craft boots

candid kindle
#

got these yesterday, omw to catalize

#

weekly is superbloom......

reef glade
#

its starting rn

#

just do it

somber lance
#

yikes

reef glade
#

first

tough steppe
#

that's pretty garbage keks

candid kindle
#

omw

cursive steeple
#

Gl to my warriors brothers and sisters* on their vaults

somber lance
#

jesus christ

candid kindle
#

lmfao

tough steppe
#

Is Grieftorch even good for us?

candid kindle
#

just pay 3 bucks dude

tough steppe
#

Otherwise i will just get the 522 chest and catalyst it

hazy flower
reef glade
#

its fine but mostly a parsers tool in runs where lots of ppl die

#

still about the best on use damage you can get

hazy flower
#

keep in mind it has highest potential probably

#

its like ret wings

#

but accessible for everyone

steep osprey
#

Do we get the usual one bullion this week along with the 3 from quest

candid kindle
#

ngl this eminem medieval thing is kinda fire

steep osprey
#

Or just guest

dire hinge
#

i like to give things 102% effort

tough steppe
#

it's a channeling trinket

#

hell naw i'm out

#

gonna get the chest

somber lance
#

it kind fun to channel grieftorch

#

ngl

steep osprey
#

It’s a fun trinket

halcyon breach
#

You can move while channeling it

#

It really is not bad

steep osprey
#

^

oblique hamlet
tough tangle
#

i cant stop winning this season and last with the vault gods

dire hinge
#

dracthyr_sweat i heard grieftorch is scaling with monk hitcombo atm

tough steppe
#

And the chest might be a very, very big upgrade for me, lol

hazy flower
#

u can get hero chest anywhere

#

and catalyst it

#

fyi

#

but your call

tough steppe
#

I know, but this is myth

hazy flower
#

yes but u can also get myth chest anywhere

#

I'd probably go grieftorch

#

raid, x vault slots can drop a chest or already a tier chest

tough steppe
#

I'm gonna sim rly quick

candid kindle
#

i hope orc as a race gets reworked

#

cant believe orc of all the races is one of the worse for warrior

#

makes no sense

thick kelp
#

2min racial

#

its over

outer holly
#

It ain't troll but it's definitely not as bad as the furries

fossil thistle
#

Do you guys hear that?

flat grotto
#

I have garbo 473 trinkets I snap the whispering incarnate icon right?

candid kindle
#

furries got a massive quality of life

fading sage
#

I can't complain a lot but the amount of trinkets in here...

fossil thistle
#

the sound of a hundred thousand Vaults of Disappointment open simultaneously to the sighs of a hundred thousand people

prisma cypress
#

team, i got OCE in vault. Do i get Incarnate icon or something else? I am using puzzle box in my second trinket spot.

flat grotto
#

The tier helm would be good too I have a heroic boe in my bags I was waiting to use until the reset xD For this exact kind of reason lol

full merlin
#

I'm going for cape since it sims the best. Scared I might regret the idol trink though.

somber plank
#

Hello, didnt play last season so I dont have legendary wep. If it drops for me would I have to spend buillions on it to upgrade or its already new ilvl cause of being awakened?

candid kindle
#

20 fps in superbloom lmfao

#

its so crowded

fossil thistle
#

If you have 0 BLP you’re pretty unlikely to get it first kill. Wouldn’t worry about it until you have it. Awakened weapon will also reward free upgrading essentially

turbid pebble
#

i saw the king live in the flesh

tough steppe
#

Yeah, i'm gonna grab the chest

#

It's a 3.2% DPS increase lol

dusk bough
#

would it be bad to use oce and incarnate icon if I have them both? not sold on signet yet with how short fights are

fossil thistle
#

0 good options 0 tertiary stats. Sadge

#

Upgrading chest from champ to myth I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

cold garnet
#

sockets?

fossil thistle
#

I have two champion rings currently

#

Chest is atleast +20 ilvl

lost timber
#

Imagine having to choose

wicked aurora
#

not a bad vault when considering I can nab seal this week

sacred zodiac
#

hc deadge

wicked aurora
proper mason
#

Ring is a good choice for arms?

fossil thistle
#

Take 2x socket and bullion ring

fossil thistle
#

Don’t actually

swift pulsar
#

Two bullion quest confirmed?

fossil thistle
#

Yes

proper mason
swift pulsar
#

Awesome

fossil thistle
#

Go get your slime cat this week

#

And collect 5x weapon transmog son your 3 alt warriors 😂

winged creek
#

is lfg bugged for you guys too

dire hinge
fading sage
#

For pocket anvil, do you just macro it to all your abilities for consistency?

dire hinge
rapid bronze
#

so I got a bullion from LFR fyrakk

#

in addition to the quest

wicked aurora
#

I would recommend against macroing it personally

dire hinge
#

yeah you get 1 per week

hollow quest
#

can someone help me on what to take? Is it the neck from nokhud? its on the bis list for m+ on wowhead

wicked aurora
#

like it works in raid

#

but in M+ it's a bad idea

pure otter
#

dgn finder bugged ;c

rapid bronze
#

since it gives 2

tough steppe
fossil thistle
#

Where is option for “Only warriors in group” @daring heron

dire hinge
#

lol

daring heron
#

lol

opaque citrus
#

sheeesh

daring heron
#

sheeeeeeeeeeee

#

is the icon myth track

halcyon breach
#

nej

daring heron
#

idk what ilvl it drops lmao

halcyon breach
#

That's 519 min

daring heron
#

ok not so good then

opaque citrus
daring heron
#

still nice ig considering

fossil thistle
#

Would push awakened incarnate icon down the list a bit

wicked aurora
#

what in the fuck blizzard

limber bear
#

GOT SIGNET BRAND FROM VAULT, HERO TRACK

#

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE

olive nest
dire hinge
fossil thistle
tough steppe
#

well damn

fossil thistle
#

Is there also
Fry’alath=true?

honest girder
quaint cosmos
#

ok boys

#

is blue silken lining the go?

#

or for the non mechanic gamers is 2x sf better

fossil thistle
#

Vers bracers

#

I’d assume BSL is better if you can maintain a minimum 40% uptime?

quaint cosmos
#

apparently on wowhead says 1% better at 60% uptime

dire hinge
quaint cosmos
#

bit sadge as i have boots and pants at s3 ilvl

#

is 1x sf and molten sabatons a go? or 2x sf atleast

fossil thistle
#

Dangit, I hate inviting 515 ret paladins with legs and dairy

jade ember
olive nest
#

I would go 2x Bsl

jade ember
#

myth puzzy wuzzy pog

quaint cosmos
#

really?

#

even if i love getting hit with mechanics?

olive nest
#

You’ll have it up on pull during your burst so you’ll probably be good

#

I get 60% uptime very easily

#

I don’t play perfectly myself

#

Learn to press IP and spell reflect more

#

And you actually do not need 60%

#

It starts winning before that

white trail
#

if i have normal tier gloves and a 476 neck, which of these 2 would you suggest? i'm leaning gloves becuase it's myth track and i can get a neck somewhere else, but another part of me really wants rid of the 476 neck lol

olive nest
#

Farm a neck

#

Take mythic track gloves

rustic prawn
#

how do we feel bout hooves?

sour forge
#

It’s aight

fossil thistle
#

Very seldom is taking a farmable hero track worth it over myth

tough steppe
#

it's agonizing how bad the DPS is in pugs

fossil thistle
#

Also, necks and rings are stat balancers, even at 476 they could be a big win over a higher ilvl less optimized stat

olive nest
#

Enjoying the tuning aren’t ya

fossil thistle
white trail
#

ok thanks for the feedback guys, i also sneaky wanted the neck for eventual turn-in for the mount i never got but the ethical choice is gloves, your'e right

tiny dock
#

so who else got garbage from their vault 🙌

white trail
#

back to farming nokhud for the rest of my life

fossil thistle
pearl geode
#

Whats a good test of might % and how can I improve

white trail
#

nah, the one for turning in dathea and terros necks

nimble basin
#

ohhh

white trail
#

i've had terros neck sitting in my bank since season 1

flat grotto
#

how much should we prioritize signet brand seen some saying its overrated

honest girder
#

I usually get

naive crescent
#

puzzle box fuck yeah

honest girder
#

Used be higher with IP

zealous lava
fossil thistle
#

Solid choice

karmic wagon
#

if i have Hero Track Puzzle Box and mostly care about M+, what second trinket should i get with Bullion?

fossil thistle
#

Lot of options tbh

karmic wagon
#

Augury is never simming great but last season it looked like it was doing a lot in keys

fossil thistle
#

It’s better for fury

#

But it’s okay in M+

honest girder
cursive sun
honest girder
#

Arms has more crit

#

Is it just more hits?

fossil thistle
#

@smoky kayak can answer better

#

Likely

#

Fury gets like 3x the auto attacks

honest girder
#

And rampage hits 4 times

cursive sun
#

and also because in general arms likes str on trinkets

tough steppe
#

🤔 maybe more crit would be nice

fossil thistle
#

Phial rune and food will fix

hazy flower
tough steppe
#

I'm using both

fossil thistle
#

Unless that’s buffed. Then yoinks

tough steppe
hazy flower
#

outside of execute??

#

there is no way

#

maybe in bl

fossil thistle
#

For ToM?
26-30% without buffs is normal

hazy flower
#

30 is on the high end

#

if you get the x2 wws in

fossil thistle
#

Yup

honest girder
#

Usually 26-33, I’ve definitely had 36 though

hazy flower
#

without bl?

#

🤨

fossil thistle
#

I’ve only had above 32% in execute window or during BL with good proc

honest girder
#

I can’t recall, I’ll check next time

#

I’ve also had 9 and 12 😎

fossil thistle
#

LMAO facts

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I’d probably say on the average without caring or taking a pull seriously, it’s probably 18-24%

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Sometimes I just vibe and enjoy myself 😄

tough steppe
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lmfao, tank just made larodar charge into the whole raid

balmy agate
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whats the two best trinkets for arms right now? OCE and???

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prob signet?

half vine
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do we want to align with blue as arms when we get chromatic essence?

balmy agate
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i thought emerald

exotic knot
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I would say so, but keep in mind that you need all 5 types for OCE to be max effective

olive nest
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You would need to sim the buffs

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To actually know witch one is best for your character

exotic knot
gray steeple
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Signet needs long fights to be good.

exotic knot
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And on short fight Puzzlebox instead of signet?

tough steppe
balmy agate
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tyty

olive nest
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Signet is not

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A good raid trinket

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The fights are too short

exotic knot
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what's the alternative?

olive nest
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It is good on the longer fights like raz/fyrakk/sark

balmy agate
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whats the secodn best raid trink

olive nest
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I personally would run OCE

balmy agate
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got ti

olive nest
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It is behind without all buffs

balmy agate
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what next

shell tundra
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Isn't signet only bad on target swap fights?

olive nest
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But eventually everyone will have one

balmy agate
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i have OCE. so what should i get next?

olive nest
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Farm a puzzle box