arms

[dire hinge]

in packs of 4+, Cleave>OP>WW>Clap, then swap Cleave for MS when you're 3 or less

Sweeping Strikes where you can

[obsidian topaz]

how do you guys do the lasher pull in AA? do you use leggo at start? at end? not at all?

by the time my BS finished, there were only a few left

wanted to wait for avatar to run out

[empty sluice]

Its so risky using leggo there

[obsidian topaz]

not that bad, you can see when swirlies come out

[dire hinge]

for sure, but as things are getting gathered up it can delay things a bit trying to lego

[obsidian topaz]

Im used to waiting a while anyway

[dire hinge]

i use it at the end of CS usually

or like, before i apply the next Warbreaker

[obsidian topaz]

CS?

like the warbreaker affect?

[dire hinge]

sorry yes

Warbreaker applies Colossus Smash (CS) to targets it hits

[copper summit]

should i do fragment and puzzlebox or switch one to a passive trink?

[shadow ibex]

One passive for sure

Those both on use would be cursed as hell

Sim yourself but I can't imagine two 3 min on use is gonna be too hot

[copper summit]

i want to switch to arms but i already spent my dinar on my leggo 😦

[obsidian topaz]

?

Arms use leggo

lol what

[copper summit]

ppl say leggo is bad on arms

which threw me off

[obsidian topaz]

Haha whoo

[shadow ibex]

[copper summit]

kk time to yell at them

lol

[obsidian topaz]

We want names

Even if it didn’t have an effect it’s 535…

Everyone in here ran to the vendor to buy that upgrade

[copper summit]

that makes me feel better i thought i wasted it

[cursive sun]

??

[shadow ibex]

Who the fuck told you it was bad

[obsidian topaz]

We should pin that hahah

[shadow ibex]

Can they read

[cursive sun]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[gray valley]

Curious what they think is better

[willow igloo]

guys whats drop chance on getting the leggo axe? cant decide if i should buy ashkandur or just wait till i get fyr

[quaint parcel]

so arms you just press cleave and overpower for AOE? 3 targets or more?

[coral crescent]

whoever said that about axe not good for arms is trying to sabotage you

[copper summit]

yea imma yell at them

[frigid flume]

Legendary isn't that good... right guys?

[copper summit]

already mesged them

[reef glade]

bro i dont get it

[copper summit]

is the stats diff in arms vs fury?

[reef glade]

how is experiments the hardest boss in this raid

[obsidian topaz]

Nupe

[obsidian topaz]

Ouf

[frigid flume]

Yeah it's pain. I only have 6 H Fyrakk kills so I bought it cause I don't trust my luck to get it in at least another 6 weeks

[copper summit]

is ninommo good video to watch how to play arms?

[strange perch]

11 bracken

[copper summit]

noice

[wild marsh]

😋

still trying to balance stats but we getting there

[elder moon]

Augury of the Primal Flame not good for arms warrior?

[strange perch]

decent but not bis

[elder moon]

Thank you

[reef glade]

help me... please...

[snow flame]

fury buff

please

[reef glade]

boss isnt dying...

[smoky kayak]

we couldn't get the dispel WA to work, so we just yolo'd the fight

parse was shit though, cause they insist on dispelling on top of the bosses

[thorn wolf]

dps bad cause hold dps

someone pilav clip

[wicked aurora]

are keys just dead?

like tf

barely any applicants to my 10

[olive nest]

Arms freakin owns btw

[minor gust]

Fortified bolstering I sleep

[reef glade]

so annoying..

kill time twice as long as any other guild

had to vantus the boss

[gaunt owl]

[minor gust]

Experiments took us 3 trys then we 1 shot Zskarn

[wicked aurora]

I need more flightstones damnit

[midnight mural]

Where is your second embelishment ? For me 486 BSL neck sims better than 522

[unborn blaze]

hi, slightly confused on execute rotation based on wowhead guide - is it MS on cooldown or wait for 2 stacks of precision?

[surreal wigeon]

@strange perch BS or jugg?

[abstract verge]

Ex ex ms… if ms doesnt reset ex ex op ms

[unborn blaze]

thx but that doesnt answer my question; here's the scenario - 1. press MS and low on rage 2. press OP and MS resets 3. ??? MS or execute?

[frigid flume]

2 stacks of precision

[elder ice]

Alright after being an Arms main in S2 and being converted to Fury in S3 I'm back to Arms

[unborn blaze]

thx, so not ms on cd

[frigid flume]

I believe that is correct yeah

[smoky kayak]

let's goooooooooo

[gaunt owl]

Big number are fun

[smoky kayak]

it's gonna get beat pretty easy once more people kill the boss, we actually played it very scuffed

[strange perch]

Double bs

[surreal wigeon]

oh shit

[strange perch]

How do you get second embellishment this week?

[olive nest]

POG

guy owned echo

[midnight mural]

Season 3 neck embelishment still works, its just ilevel 486

[strange perch]

Mythic echo is a meme now

Killed in 2 pulls

[boreal quartz]

I did an hc echo with 670k P3

[smoky kayak]

the whole instance is jokes

Sark is the only hard boss

[boreal quartz]

Rashok kinda non meme, but im a resident surfer

[sullen plover]

For lego chance drop, if we do heroic would we need to do normal for another chance drop?

[boreal quartz]

Just HC

[frigid flume]

no

[smoky kayak]

Nelth hits tanks pretty good too, but Rashok pumps - still like a 3 pull boss though

[midnight mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2a9Dj2fKupU9AtM5SsGeQn

Ruby whelp shell rly ?? :/

[boreal quartz]

Cant use it till fully trained tho

[sullen plover]

Ty ty

[midnight mural]

Y indeed

[sullen plover]

if we can't find heroic group for lego, would it make any sense to run a normal still? or just bang heroic only

[midnight mural]

Will have anothet trinket by the time its trained i guess

[elder ice]

We were trying some cheese strats in mythic. We did all on fire add for Amalgamation but couldn't nuke Assault fast enough so had to do the normal strat

[frigid flume]

you might as well do normal but Heroic is so easy, would definitely keep trying to find a group for it

[midnight mural]

Should farm nplhud

Nokhud

[white vale]

nelth with the nerfs actually made the fight pretty fun, mainly cause i could pad out the ass for longer in P3 lmao

[boreal quartz]

I will vault essence im not farming m+ trinket (please get me out of Box + anvil hell)

[charred brook]

I’m in need of your assistance again sir unfortunately

I will pay generously

In the form of good conversation

[midnight mural]

Gl ! 😄 i pray i vault essence too

[boreal quartz]

4p now?

[charred brook]

Yes

[sullen plover]

gotcha, ty again

[charred brook]

I posted it in log review

[obtuse bear]

I got a question.

[boreal quartz]

After work prolly

[obtuse bear]

Why do we dragon roar first before avatar?

and not avatar before dragon roar?

[boreal quartz]

So gimme 7h

[boreal quartz]

Initial damage is whatever + it's one less non spend GCD in cs

[charred brook]

Okay sounds good gives me time to sleep then

Reconvene at dawn

1

!

[obtuse bear]

thanks.

[hallow vale]

do we use anvil on CD or wait for stacks?

[tough tangle]

it was a good raid night

[wicked aurora]

getting there

[obtuse bear]

Is there a reason not to macro CS + Avatar together?

[smoky kayak]

there are situations where you'd want to use CS but delay Avatar for a damage amp, execute, etc

[obtuse bear]

urgh

[smoky kayak]

though you could work around that by simply using two keybinds - one for CS alone and one for CS+Ava... though at that point you're not actually saving any keybinds either

[obtuse bear]

kind of new to Arms and I thought I could help make things more aligned/synced up

[steady plover]

Arms is hard when to manage your cds , just play fury and spam your cds all time

[obtuse bear]

Fury is sad now it seems.

And Arms is gigachad this tier from all my arms war so I thought I'd learn.

[gaunt owl]

Just do the same as Arms

People are just overthinking for no reason

[worldly kernel]

you honestly just press buttons and stuff lines up for you

[steady plover]

nah arms need to calculate , if you have been playing high m+ you have to coordinate .

[worldly kernel]

most of the new dungeons now have pretty decently sized pulls so you don't need to pull around you

[gaunt owl]

There is nothing secret, the sauce is to just send coordination with your group has nothing do with this

We got AM wich is the most perfect talent for m+

[worldly kernel]

arms good i need more damage

6 6 6

[steady plover]

that is because you have legendary weapon

[austere willow]

when do you send bladestorm in singletarget with an m+ build? is it pre warbreaker/avatar or still post like in aoe?

[gaunt owl]

Lego weapon has nothing to do, its pull size and the dungeon

[boreal quartz]

Ive done 500 prelego in AA - especially with an afk boomie itll be doable without

[steep osprey]

How huge is leggo

[steady plover]

@ damn that is nuts but you are phil , one of the best warriors in here .

[steep osprey]

Famous warrior Philliam

[boreal quartz]

Cope

Just got to solo lashers

[steady plover]

how big were the pulls

[worldly kernel]

I mean the leggo helps it's 13 ilvl higher than what I had before but its all about not bein dum dum when you send CD's on a pack

[steep osprey]

Don’t use it on aa tree pack

[boreal quartz]

Normal but if ur the only person padding tree boss/first area you win by default

2 Mil on first pull and 800k on tree

[worldly kernel]

i got just shy of 1.9

[gaunt owl]

Im competing with known padding enjoyer

[trim arrow]

secret dps gain

[steady plover]

damn , well played . have you managed to time it with that boomkin afk . what m+ level was it

[frigid flume]

this any good for M+? sounds pretty sick

[worldly kernel]

ten tickle

[boreal quartz]

Was a 9 for Box and was timed yea

[upper sleet]

i just came back to wow stopped at season 2, seeing that arms is better in s4, i've never played arms rly, when do i switch from fury to arms?

[worldly kernel]

you switch rn

[upper sleet]

i do?

[worldly kernel]

also is hoof idle REALLY that much of a blaster

[trim arrow]

i mean its a meme season

you can really play whatever

[upper sleet]

what was better in s3?

[trim arrow]

fury

[steady plover]

tbh no need to play season 4 , just play other games or watch some netflix

[willow igloo]

do i bladestorm on st without test of might?

[boreal quartz]

Yes

[willow igloo]

when do i do it then? just inside warbreaker?

[boreal quartz]

Before wb in st

After wb in aoe

[wicked aurora]

there's no reason to play any season tbh

if you really wanna split hairs

[frigid flume]

is opener in m+ spec charge, bladestorm, roar, avatar, wb... ?

[wicked aurora]

I typically charge roar TC WB/Ava and then BS

[frigid flume]

sorry, singletarget*

[boreal quartz]

Charge ms tc bs or something

I like getting tier buff up early

[steady plover]

nah , the first three seasons had a raid lore ,but s4 just a filler . if you like to be a free play the filler

[frigid flume]

ah that makes sense

[simple wren]

get some embellishments crafted after weapon upgrade would be a good prio or?

[frigid flume]

wdym

[simple wren]

have some crests that burns in my pockets

[boreal quartz]

You shouldve make an embell last week

[simple wren]

i sawed for weapon

[boreal quartz]

But ye they are high prio

[frigid flume]

?

[boreal quartz]

Weapon was only 1 weeks worth of crests

But tbf it wasnt clear

[simple wren]

also

i have limited game time 🙂

[boreal quartz]

Fair enough

[grand idol]

Idk. I don't think my first crafted item is going to be an embellished item I already have. Neck is a relatively low payout and you lose the gem on bracers. (I'm using lariat and vers bracers obv) A main piece with shadowflame will likely be far better bang for buck and just use a fill in on the other slot.

[boreal quartz]

Make a BSL neck

Those go hard

[grand idol]

perhaps even without flame.

[boreal quartz]

Or BSL say legs

[wicked edge]

so arms is better then fury rn?

[boreal quartz]

Yes

[wicked edge]

ok damn

[frigid flume]

yep lol

[wicked edge]

is that with s4 set?

[astral yarrow]

not necessarily

[sour forge]

That’s just all the logs over the course of the week

[fickle nexus]

I feel like looking at that is such a trap for determining which is better currently

[boreal quartz]

Good logs generally include good gear tbf

[boreal quartz]

If you look at raw sims arms beats fury by bout 50k

[astral yarrow]

boss damage is quite clear though

overall damage less so

[wicked edge]

hmm ok iv got 2 set s4 4 set s3, which should i wear rn

and im assuming wowhead for builds?

[serene olive]

Can I ask what people are doing for aoe in m+, is it better to charge in, bladestorm for the strength buff into war breaker and cool-downs or use bladestorm during war breaker?

[grand idol]

best to ask the sim robot those types of questions tbh. Too many variables

[wild plover]

Are you guys using Blue Silken Lining or Armor Patch? With how much uptime do you calculate BSL?

[astral yarrow]

Check 25%, 45% and 60% to see low, mid and kinda high uptime. I've had bosses with 80% as well, but that is in general not reachable before farm

[wild plover]

40% seems to be the breakeven-point for me

Sounds worth it tbh

[astral yarrow]

It forces you to think a little more about defenses. Good IP usage, SR, Def stance and DBTS.

[frigid flume]

people press defensive stance

[gray valley]

I use BSL on neck and had fairly low uptime last week, but about every key this week I'm above 65% (doing 10s 11s currently) without even running IP

[wild plover]

Then i dont want it!

[astral yarrow]

Understandable - have a nice day!

[wild plover]

Already crafted it. Will check on my next runs 🙂

[frigid flume]

how can you see bsl uptime btw

[gray valley]

Buff uptime and/or using logs like any other buff

[frigid flume]

fair enough

[gray valley]

Shows as these, in log and ingame (Details) respectively

[frigid flume]

[wicked aurora]

weird take, I never once played any of the M+ or raids this expansion for the lore

it's pretty simple

play game if you have fun, don't if you don't

even if S4 is "filler" if it's fun then there's all the reason you need to play lmao

[smoky kayak]

just remember M+ uptimes aren't real - dead time counts as uptime (assuming you're >90% hp, which you probably should be)

So I would err on the side of evaluating a lower uptime than what's actually displayed in details or logs, though each dungeon is a bit different in that respect

[gray valley]

Yeah, that is fair. It's very "feelycraft" but during keys currently seem like it's getting good value after grabbing gear.

[smoky kayak]

actually I'm not sure how details tracks its overall dungeon numbers, but logs definitely count dead time

[astral yarrow]

If you would want to check real value, you should check how much overlap you have with avatar+zone of focus for example

or rather, relevant value

[smoky kayak]

agreed; burst time is the most important time

[wild plover]

Both true

[gray valley]

Would the easiest way just to check both uptime bars then?

[astral yarrow]

you can filter for both in logs

not really in details sadly

[smoky kayak]

go to logs and filter by bosses & trash

[wild plover]

Or we take the shortcut and do what Master Archim and Critcake do

[proper moth]

Brooo some of these pug tanks need to unbind all their movement keys other than W

[wild plover]

Thank you for your work btw Archim 🙂

[quasi torrent]

details doesn't track dead time in keys

[snow flame]

has anyone tried the juggernaut build in keys yet

[smoky kayak]

makes sense, but I wasn't sure

[hazy flower]

Details is just in combat ye

[quasi torrent]

only combat time which is MOSTLY real

[snow flame]

I know it sims well but hows it actually perform

[quasi torrent]

(obv setting up pulls isn't real real)

[astral yarrow]

we need a real definition of real and real real

[glossy olive]

Generally speaking. Which is better: 2 Piece Season Four and 2 Piece Season Three or 4 Piece Season Three?

[quasi torrent]

real

[snow flame]

4 piece

[glossy olive]

Ty

[dull siren]

Ok so how do I play fury now without my mousewheel macro doin every global perfect

[snow flame]

fury is fun to play

[quasi torrent]

press ramp

[snow flame]

just sucks in dps

[smoky kayak]

in this log of Myrts from last week, he had 78% uptime on BSL
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PDzJqBvGyhN84Y9H#fight=7&type=auras&source=3&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24auras-gained%240%240.0.0.Any%240.0.0.Any%24true%24178373576.0.0.Warrior%24false%24387336

all bosses doesn't track uptime, but individually

• 1st boss = 64.7% uptime
• 2nd boss = 61.5% uptime
• 3rd boss = 68.45% uptime
• 4th boss = 91.4% uptime (you go glen coco!)
• but vs trash he only had 37.5% and that was on tyrannical

Which tells us that (at least these) bosses are pretty easy to min/max if you play well, but trash can be pretty iffy, especially in big pulls

[quasi torrent]

real

[dull siren]

Trash BSL, The most important part.
Is just having it as you dump your CDs

[quasi torrent]

corrupting rage + bsl

Surely nothing ever goes wrong with that

[smoky kayak]

Yeah that's why we were talking about looking at BSL uptime during Ava as a reference

[quasi torrent]

playing FbV will generally yield higher average uptimes

[dull siren]

I just woke up, My dog barfed and barked

[quasi torrent]

cause it kinda just keeps u topped on trash

But less on bosses cause IP cool and good

[dull siren]

It's time to just get leech gear

[quasi torrent]

real

[smoky kayak]

and true

[astral yarrow]

leech thingy on vault vendor when

[quasi torrent]

Ive used 3 myth track tokens in raid

0 tertiary

[smoky kayak]

we had a black dragonscale with leech drop today - leech on leech baby

[quasi torrent]

Healer prio

[smoky kayak]

when you leech, you leech more leech

[quasi torrent]

gg

[astral yarrow]

we are still at 1 zenith token drop total

[dull siren]

i was gonna get class trinket but they said i've had to much loot

[smoky kayak]

they were fuckin right

[quasi torrent]

ive been given 5 lol

[snow flame]

I got mythic icon in vault

sadly

[quasi torrent]

2 hc 3 myth

[hazy flower]

Stop simming 600k

[astral yarrow]

i am very angery

[snow flame]

[smoky kayak]

I got a nelths though

[dull siren]

[astral yarrow]

running 2 normal pieces man

[snow flame]

pog

[astral yarrow]

meanwhile our guys got showered in leather yesterday

[snow flame]

I hate puzzle box

[dull siren]

I can still upgrade anvil 2 times

[snow flame]

I wish it sucked

[smoky kayak]

Anvil went to DH 😦

[astral yarrow]

Xirips is legit 4th most geared person in the world

[smoky kayak]

I have an LFR one

[quasi torrent]

fucking hate anvil

[astral yarrow]

and guys a healer

[smoky kayak]

really? it's pretty easy to play

did you see my macro?

[snow flame]

I'll take anvil

over puzzle

[quasi torrent]

I know u CAN just macro it

but that's not very good in dungeon

[dull siren]

Idk, This raid is so weak as well compared to vault it feels like everything is squishier and deals less dmg

[smoky kayak]

oh yeah it's poop for dungeons

[quasi torrent]

its really nlt

just like brand is good anvil is goos

Its just annoying

[smoky kayak]

it's poop if you're not going out of your way to min/max it, which makes it poop in my book

[snow flame]

bro we one shot the entire raid last night

[quasi torrent]

and in raid most fights already kinda short idk

[snow flame]

it was so stupid

mythic felt like normal kek

[smoky kayak]

but yeah, Anvil can be macroed - press this twice, ez game

/castsequence reset=0.7 Mortal Strike, Elementium Pocket Anvil``` it will always cast during the GCD and never interrupt your rotation (you can even use it while moving)

[quasi torrent]

Thats the thing, after 5min u can pretty easily use the on use to extend it out of combat massively

So its not nearly as ass as brand

as ass as is also a nice phrase for sure

[astral yarrow]

thats a good wending

maybe we can use that in another afsnit

[hazy flower]

Can pin that, useful macro for this season

[smoky kayak]

its already in the guides

OH

It's also on Wago!

[smoky kayak]

Apparently wago does macros now, so I added a handful

[snow flame]

We match in a lot of slots

big pog

[dull siren]

I like how the lego stuff was fixed as my raid ended yesterday

really enjoyed that

[astral yarrow]

same

[snow flame]

same

[astral yarrow]

5 mins after sark kill the post was on wowhead

xd

[snow flame]

actually it was fixed the day after my raid

[smoky kayak]

fixed just as mine was beginning

[astral yarrow]

[dull siren]

nelth + sark was a joke

[quasi torrent]

was a fucking shitshow for sure

[astral yarrow]

nothing on nelth does damage lol

[snow flame]

you started your raid when it came out because you knew when it coming

padder

insider trading

[dull siren]

only if u break to many walls

we broke 6 and nearly died

[quasi torrent]

the aoe bonk in p1 does a chunk on 3rd

[astral yarrow]

yeah we nearly got oneshot on last wall break into area denial in p1

[smoky kayak]

not bad for someone who doesn't play arms (plz ignore Zaqali, my raid trolled 🥲 )

too bad they'll all be gone once the real gamers wake up tomorrow

[quasi torrent]

but u won't get that anymore

[snow flame]

[smoky kayak]

Also holy fuck TWW can't come soon enough, Arms feels so much better there

just, you know, after they fix the tree

[dull siren]

Make ravager work with Slayer.

[snow flame]

arms feels so bad in keys

I hate the rotation

[outer holly]

Last I read we were worried about rage gen issues, was that unfounded?

[snow flame]

remove tom

thanks

[magic canopy]

our sark loot

was so worthless

2 daggers 2 pants

[smoky kayak]

they're slowing it down for sure, but they're also reducing rage costs so you're not just standing around waiting for AA swings like in SL

[snow flame]

we had a cape drop!

[astral yarrow]

2 daggers, 2 belts and 1 stick for us

on hc it was 2 boots, 2 legs and a dagger

[snow flame]

https://tenor.com/view/dyd-betting-vip-group-dyd-dyd-members-shush-gif-21314462

[dull siren]

I haven't, I've been studied for taking the bar and m+

[smoky kayak]

studying for M+, man what a gamer

[dull siren]

real

have exam in 14 days

[astral yarrow]

imagine studying when you could be wasting your life playing wow

[dull siren]

dead

[teal fossil]

tmy graduated from literal mines to metaphorical mines

[weak saffron]

Are you guys using Uporoar or Seismic Reverberation?

[boreal quartz]

Insane

Uproar better

[weak saffron]

But it desync from Avatar.. do you use it every pull then?

[teal fossil]

Seismic is not a real talent

[weak saffron]

After Bladestorm?

[dull siren]

desnyc deosn't really matter.
Just press roar it does dam

[weak saffron]

Yeah, perhaps I'm using it too little.

Breakdown from a NO 10.

[astral yarrow]

axe bad

[wicked aurora]

axe terrible

[weak saffron]

Are you guys memeing or am I using it too little?

[wicked aurora]

memeing

[dull siren]

this is the tech

@astral yarrow

[astral yarrow]

Yea i wanted it yday but nothing dropped

im cursed with gear this season man

[smoky kayak]

just be careful, cause it works like Fyr'alath - charging will cancel the damage
it has higher primary stat budget than similar trinkets though, so the direct damage is mostly ancillary

[astral yarrow]

although i did get asscandy on both hc and mythic lol

[quasi torrent]

fury arch

[astral yarrow]

i contemplated it

[quasi torrent]

King

[wicked aurora]

my shit was scuffed

[quasi torrent]

Blast fury on tindral (dont fly)

ez rank 1

[astral yarrow]

but i'd just be taking fun away from others and doing less meaningful damage

[dull siren]

I'll probs do some fury m+ ngl, Annihiliator is gone so maybe it's a okay spec to play

[wicked aurora]

but DN should be higher for you\

[dull siren]

Maybe it's not a good idea

@quasi torrent

[weak saffron]

Damn, I should be doing way more Mortal Strike it seems.

[wicked aurora]

scuffed key

also aug

[weak saffron]

Its a much higher key too tho, right? Mine was a 10.

[wicked aurora]

weird target counts meant I didn't press cleave that much

nah it was a 10

[quasi torrent]

big masterus

[plush temple]

is there any reliable BiS listing for M+ focused players?

[dull siren]

follow ur heart

[astral yarrow]

highest ilvl and adjust with sockets 🤷‍♀️

shorter anser: sim the stuff you have

[wild plover]

Neltharus

Wasnt Deadge

[austere willow]

When do you use bladestorm on single targets when in an m+ build? Before warbreaker and avatar?

The guide mentions during the test of might window but we're not really running test of might?

[astral yarrow]

BS before WB on ST

outside that, its the other way around

[austere willow]

gotcha!

Thanks

[astral yarrow]

its not gonna matter much realistically

[proud plover]

Roar > avatar + bladestorm (hurricane buff huge) > wb

[austere willow]

roar before all of the buffs?

[astral yarrow]

as long as you have CS applied and Hurricane rolling for the duration of roar debuff you're good

whichever way you go about it is not really thati mportant

the upfront damage of roar is not the relevant part

[austere willow]

but not every tick gets it since bladestorm takes a good bit of time

[astral yarrow]

roar is 16 seconds

hurricane does not last that long

[austere willow]

ah makes sense

[weak saffron]

Is this a good AOE opener?

Charge > TC > Avatar > Warbreaker > Whirlwind > TR > Bladestorm...

[cursive sun]

got mythic grapnel yday

it lowkey blasts

[proud plover]

Yeah like aagaard said while keeping in mind you save a global inside avatar + hurricane + wb for a bigger damage ability (cleave/ms/op)

[wicked aurora]

Not sure why you’d WW before BS

I’d also roar after clap

But in general it won’t matter that much

[proud plover]

Wtf ww is only to reset op!

[wicked aurora]

WW hits hard in aoe tbf

[proud plover]

Nah it puts leggo mark on everything tho

Found myself charge > ww > leggo > stuff

[wicked aurora]

I’m usually doing charge TC grieftorch/lego and then CDs

[honest girder]

I usually do this to get a 2nd (hurricane enhanced) ww inside the CS window. Could definitely be wrong however

[wicked aurora]

WW does good damage but I’d be more worried about getting as many OPs cast in your sweeping strikes during CS window outside of BS

[summer pumice]

Ugraded lego seems to slap, 8+ Ruby Life Pools

[wicked aurora]

Feelycrafting a bit on that but DN is a huge amount of damage

[wicked aurora]

Uhhhh wtf is with the rest of your damage

Like are you not pressing buttons?

[honest girder]

Rest of your damage is on the low end for Lego to be 11%

Roar is usually top

Depending on pulls ofc

[wicked aurora]

Regardless Lego shouldn’t be top damage ever

DN is also really low

[summer pumice]

low haste currently after swapping from fury last season

[wicked aurora]

Haste shouldn’t make your Lego top damage

[summer pumice]

Depends on the dungeon? Ruby is hardly a trash heavy dungeon

[wicked aurora]

No it doesn’t

[summer pumice]

cool

[wicked aurora]

Lego shouldn’t be top damage period lol

[echo perch]

do you play with cleave or not ?

and which point should i remove

[wicked aurora]

With s4 set with cleave

[echo perch]

for it

i have only 2pc

[wicked aurora]

Not sure what the build would be with 2 piece but there’s builds you can import on Wowhead

[tropic umbra]

Was there an agreed upon opener for AoE/m+ ? I'm never sure I have the correct order. Holding bladestorm until after war breaker, sending bladestorm first etc.

[hazy flower]

Aoe warbreaker into bladestorm

St, other way around

[narrow charm]

charge, thunderclap, avatar, warbreaker, roar, bladestorm

and if u have the legendary then use it after that

[tropic umbra]

Sick tyvm

I thought that spinning during a CS window was bad but I guess not.

[hazy flower]

Not in aoe, no

[tropic umbra]

Noice. I can stop feeling bad about pressing that button then

[narrow charm]

not at all. remmeber while u spinning the roar bleeds is ticking for so much.

i have an issue maybe someone can help me

i do mainly mythic +

my aoe dps is very good but when it comes to boss fights my dps is very bad. any tips?

[atomic iris]

Probably using too many aoe/cleave talents and skimping on the single target ones. Possibly anyway. Link your build.

[tropic umbra]

I find that too, I'm just using the wowhead m+ build

[hazy flower]

Its hard to say with no logs or anything

[tropic umbra]

Boss damage ends up being kinda mid

[hazy flower]

It can be virtually everything

[narrow charm]

in single target im just spamming overpower and mortal strokes, with bladestorm and roar thats it

[tropic umbra]

Are you capping rage by forgetting to press TC and WW?

[wicked aurora]

Press WW in single target

[hazy flower]

From overly pad talents, poor gear but aoe still feels good enough, bad rotation in st

Missing out on ms

[narrow charm]

im 507 ilvl btw

[hazy flower]

Too many things to tell just like that

[wicked aurora]

Boss damage feels fine for me tbh

[narrow charm]

why must i use ww in single? pls explain

[boreal quartz]

Mortal strokes

[hazy flower]

Stroke on this

[narrow charm]

lol

[hazy flower]

[wicked aurora]

To spend rage?

[boreal quartz]

1984

[wicked aurora]

It’s in the priority list

[narrow charm]

i see, but ww does not deal alot of dmg

[boreal quartz]

60 rage is a lot of CDR

[tropic umbra]

It does with the talent I can't remember the name of

[wicked aurora]

Press the button

[tropic umbra]

Storm of swords, that's the one

[atomic iris]

Storm of swords

[tropic umbra]

Does more damage and spends alot of rage

[narrow charm]

im at work atm

send talent ss for me

[wicked aurora]

?

[tropic umbra]

It's on wowhead?

How'd you get here without getting to wowhead first? XD

[narrow charm]

oh yes it deals 175% more dmg

i can try that

2 more weeks till MOP Remix. Very hyped

[foggy wolf]

is it only me or is the "discount" on upgrading the lego absolutely not noteworthy?

expected more tbh

[narrow charm]

u reffering to flightstones or crests?

[foggy wolf]

both

its like 100 flightstones and 15 crests u get to save

to fully upgrade

[narrow charm]

dont put me off. i just got legendary last night and now have to do questline

[foggy wolf]

i mean its still an insane item upgrade

[finite ginkgo]

Depens what ilvl weapon you already got

[wicked aurora]

Idk my discount was pretty massive, only cost me 30 crests and about 1300 flightstones or something

[foggy wolf]

from 502 to 535, had a 506 in bag

[narrow charm]

only 502

[wicked aurora]

Having a 528 weapon made it giga free

[tall notch]

Whats our prio craft this season?

[foggy wolf]

well ye, but that isnt the discount that was being praised.

[narrow charm]

btw. any tip to help me with tethercoil farm. the other 2 are quick and easy

[finite ginkgo]

Yea discount isn’t that big then

[foggy wolf]

maybe i misunderstood

i thought they said the buillon items will be cheaper to upgrade in general.

ig when ppl said discount is not yet accounted for when upgrading they were talking abt the discount u get when you have a highher item in bag?

[narrow charm]

correct

[reef birch]

probably gona sound stupid, but better safe than sorry - the BSL embelish's component rank1-3 quality doesnt affect the actual mastery granted right?

[wicked aurora]

They also said you’d be able to upgrade your legendary and look how that turned out for the first two days after you could buy the upgrade item

[foggy wolf]

[proud plover]

no it only effects the quality (r3 requires less skill to max rank it)

[narrow charm]

i have already spent my bullions on trink, now i must wait 2 weeks to start upgrading leggo

[daring pagoda]

In longer aoe fights are we just sending anything that comes off CD Again with regards to BS, WB, Roar and SS? And hold Avatar for WB?

[proud plover]

dont hold , send it

[narrow charm]

for me. i go charge/thunderclap/avatar/warbreaker/roar/bladestorm/sweeping strikes, and spam mortal strikes and cleave

in a massive pack can get like 800- 1.2m dps

[reef birch]

isnt there a threshhold of living enemies where you have to wait they drop to before using sweeping?

[proud plover]

yeah 2+

[reef birch]

like when 4-5 enemies still live, isnt it better to overpower, cleave

than use sweep

[narrow charm]

whenever there is more than 1 enemy always use SS

[proud plover]

ss causes op to hit twice causing dn to also hit twice

[reef birch]

so when there are 5 enemie alive you use ss and then?

[narrow charm]

i mean ss is 30 sec cd and lasts 21 sec

and ur mortal strike crits will hit double

[reef birch]

not ot most specs it doesnt

[proud plover]

you use ss as soon as there is 2+ adds

[reef birch]

also not true

second target takes 75%

[narrow charm]

my mortal strike crits are hitting for about 400k now. so ss makes it it another 300k to enemy

[narrow charm]

well ye i mean 75% thats alot

[reef birch]

and thats better than cleaving 5 enemies for 180k?

[narrow charm]

no no. cleaving will do more dmg. but when cleave on cd, use mortal strike

[proud plover]

400k+ into a prio target or 200k damage to all tarrgets - really dpends on what damage you need to do

[reef birch]

i find myself using SS after the big cd's have been played only to realise im mostly cleaving the survivors with ss ticking

and basically only working off overpower

im new to arms

but that feels like a gross misuse

On a feel, ss seems best used with no more or less than 2-3 targets

[narrow charm]

i agree

but like ss should be up like 80% of the time so when u not cleaving, atleast mortal strike hits another

[exotic kestrel]

just doing ST rotation with SS up is already massive coz of DN alone

[daring heron]

sweep gives you a 2nd overpower dreadnaught line, that alone is massive

[proud plover]

you use ss at 2 or more targets because overpower and deadnaught also cleave (it hits eveything TWICE)

[hazy flower]

I was thinking that maybe ss is good for 2nd dn for prio?

[exotic kestrel]

Sweeping strikes on high target counts is still giga value

[daring heron]

OP+DN should be your top damage source in every key but maybe algethar

[hazy flower]

Writherbark moment

[daring heron]

yes ss for more dn on the prio target

[hazy flower]

Waiting for mastermind to answer me after his work @gaunt owl

Ah ye

[daring heron]

it's only half a gcd so is worth unless it's just 1 dn wave or whatever

[proud plover]

thing is your cleaved op on secondary targets also causes the second dreandaught to HIT THE BOSS/PRIO target

[daring heron]

also hitting 2nd target with MS increases your odds of proccing 4p

[exotic kestrel]

We are getting into huge brain teritory now

[narrow charm]

yesterday i got a 786k MS crit lol

[exotic kestrel]

Also, still 0 tier gang, lost like 9 rolls yesterday

[safe cedar]

guess Im being a bit to ethical on bolster week with mortal strike almost doing same dmg as roar overall in ruby xD

[reef birch]

Whats DN :/ ? Im fresh off the fury boat

[proud plover]

yeah you send ms > opx2 > ms so cleeave doesnt eat your op buffs and makes the ms giga prio dam

[hazy flower]

Ye thats the idea

x2 dn on boss

[daring heron]

the aoe that overpower does

[reef birch]

ah

[proud plover]

pure jugg m+/no bs/no cleave build in BH

[reef birch]

dreadnaught

[hazy flower]

Ive been called a padder on writherbark

[daring heron]

it's called dreadnaught in the talent tree

[hazy flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

Its funnel bro

[exotic kestrel]

its not padding if the adds need to die

[daring heron]

i suppose if others are using the adds for funnel, your SS DN "funnel" isnt comparable to real funnel

but yeah id press that SS button any day

[silk spade]

are you talking about aa or everbloom

[hazy flower]

Eb

[hazy flower]

Yeah I mean 100% comp dependant

When I played the 30 with sp

[exotic kestrel]

My fire mage friend told me in s1 very sirously that fire mage was great at funneling damage "because i can ST the big mob and ignite spreads automatically"

[hazy flower]

I fucking stayed away with my bladestorm

[silk spade]

i remember the clip of the spriest dotting every bubble and everyone dying because of it

[hazy flower]

Tried not to hit with my tclap and troar

But if its war ret rogue

Ss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1171395617839382559.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[silk spade]

that's not what funnel means

[exotic kestrel]

thats the meme

[silk spade]

ah

[exotic kestrel]

i laughed at him hard and long

good times

[proud plover]

funnel was s3 tier bleeds proccing SD so you can 'funnel' st damage

[hazy flower]

They have kind of a funnel

[silk spade]

reverse funnel

[exotic kestrel]

reverse funnel

Pog

[silk spade]

[hazy flower]

Their ignite does less dam to primary targer (I think) if it hits 3 or more targets

BUT

[proud plover]

imagine the fire mage funnel of 'you ignite ticks have a chance to cause you next PB to be free and instant' tho

[hazy flower]

Their ignite can reset fire blast

[astral yarrow]

[hazy flower]

Which kind of translates to some funnel

Thats why you had mages blasting hard on 2nd boss in dht

[exotic kestrel]

that was actual padding and cheating

[hazy flower]

Not if they topped boss dam

[exotic kestrel]

so unfair that ingite hit the roots before they got stepped in

[hazy flower]

By far

[exotic kestrel]

( i only say this coz the same fire mage friend was always way to excited to do that boss)

[hazy flower]

And whenever I played with a decent mage or a good mage (rarely) they were leaving everyone behind in boss dam

[exotic kestrel]

filthy mages and their good tuning

[reef birch]

We meme a friend mage of ours, becaus he coined the very weird line "nobody touch the skull!!"

[exotic kestrel]

ngl if we do fun keys and arnt tryharding

i try to do as much prio damage to whatever hes targeting

as i can

[reef birch]

whats hilarious is that he uses the skull to mark targets the rest of us arent supposed to attack

[exotic kestrel]

yeh thats acc trolling

[reef birch]

no, he is exceedingly self centered and a logs hog

uses skull because its what he intends to damage

as if the party are some npc, there to keep him alive

[exotic kestrel]

typical mage

[verbal niche]

Would it be worth it to grab ashkandur if I'm at most 9 weeks away from the leggo axe?

[proud plover]

yes

big dam until then, basically free to upgrade leggo to max when you do get it

[verbal niche]

tyty

[proud plover]

and buying weap now will 100% increase your chance to loot leggo this week

[hallow vale]

is the halls of infusion last boss reflect still doable?

[proud plover]

because this game is dog like that sometimes

[proud plover]

yes, hits like a truck

[verbal niche]

yea, buying the sword then the leggo will drop next time I set foot in the raid

[hallow vale]

i just died trying to do it

it didnt reflect the channel

[proud plover]

let tank eat the buffet, be closest to boss and it will target you, tank only runs into boss AFTER its cast

or whatever the tank one is

[hazy flower]

Huh

[proud plover]

no taunt needed, no eating damage needed

[hazy flower]

Have they changed anything

With that

Thats not how it was done

[hallow vale]

oh

i see

[misty yew]

im guessing we should be upgrading lego asap with bullion

?

[hallow vale]

ty

[frigid lava]

^this

[proud plover]

yes its by FAR the biggest upgrade

[misty yew]

thanks

[fervent hawk]

so cleave is now better than 2/2BB?

[proud plover]

it is in aoe yes, only with 4pc

[steep osprey]

Had no connection for 4 hours

[astral yarrow]

its kind of a tradeoff - 2x BB is less globals committed than cleave is

but if you are actively aoe'ing, cleave is always gonna be better whereas 2x BB and just doing prio damage is better at actually killing relevant things

[late lantern]

What is our stat priority for m+?

[fervent hawk]

yeah was gonna say, we lose quite a bit of prio damage running cleave

I liked being the prio dam class

[hazy flower]

Not much

[reef birch]

padding is a cause worth sucking for

[astral yarrow]

depends on what you define as "quite a bit"

[idle prairie]

Whatever sind best for you

[hazy flower]

Like 1%

[proud plover]

this is why im back to m+ jugg spec with no cleave talent - send huge ms dam and let rend/op+dn/roar do all my cleave passively

[hazy flower]

Maybe 1.5% tops

[astral yarrow]

losing 7.5% bleed damage is not gonna amount to a big loss in the grand scheme of things

[fervent hawk]

well MS is replaced with cleave in AOE so yeah seems quite a bit

[hazy flower]

Its likely same difference as if 1 of your ms crits or doesnt

[astral yarrow]

i wish things were as binary as that

[proud plover]

40/40/20/20 is what i bounce around/aim for - simming is the only way to actually tell

[exotic kestrel]

EB turned out not to be worth right?

[quasi torrent]

Clueless arms conditionals on 3-8 targets

[astral yarrow]

having been a part of writing that shit i still have no clue when i actually play and when people ask

[quasi torrent]

if u care about clearing dungeons fast u will be pressing a lot of MS even on high target cleave

[exotic kestrel]

Honestly just press both 🙂

[proud plover]

ms > cleave > opx2 or cleave > ms > opx2? or ms > op > cleave > op?

[astral yarrow]

Killing off lashers fast in Brackenhide is completely irrelevant, but prioritizing the rot casters is gonna allow you to go on to next pull. If you binarily decide 5 targets = cleave, you are kind of inting the run

[exotic kestrel]

yes

[proud plover]

nice!

[astral yarrow]

its not gonna make or break a key, but when pace is what matters and damage is a factor, that is always gonna be the right play

[exotic kestrel]

I will not elloborate (because i do not know)

[proud plover]

mash away, send it whateveer it lands on!

i do that when i cbf, often 🙂

[astral yarrow]

i usually have a dice next to pc - if it rolls less than 3 i MS and over 3 i cleave

[exotic kestrel]

for me its just a "whatever feels right" but then again im at most decent

[proud plover]

i just removed cleave talent and all my thought was gone

[exotic kestrel]

i cant wait to get tierset and play cleave

i like cleave

[astral yarrow]

cleave fuck good(ish)

[hazy flower]

I wouldnt say completely irrelevant

That is a bit of a stretch

[proud plover]

2+2pc = send it

[hazy flower]

Maybe in a 10 yeah

[astral yarrow]

you can always take it out to the extreme

2 other people will be cleaving shit

[hazy flower]

Depends on comp yeah

In s2’s godcomp

You had to pad

As sp wouldnt manually dot every lasher every time

[astral yarrow]

wouldnt be playing warrior in god comp

[hazy flower]

Its mostly just knowing the key level, the dungeon and the group

[exotic kestrel]

[hazy flower]

I did..

Did not end well

Perks of pugging

[astral yarrow]

then is it really godcomp

[exotic kestrel]

aintnoway

[hazy flower]

Its godcomp from wish

[astral yarrow]

godcomp at home

[exotic kestrel]

in TWW Arms part of godcomp for sure

[hazy flower]

Missing 5% buff for sp and aug

[proud plover]

i have managed to convince all the priests in my goups that arms is prio pi target btw

[exotic kestrel]

nice.

[proud plover]

all of them not just exe!

[steep osprey]

I really need flightstones

where do i farm them aside from m+

[proud plover]

m+ is the easiest way, some quests give them to you, raids drop some per boss

[daring heron]

planting seeds in emerald dream is apparently pretty good

as long as you have brainrot resistance

[fervent hawk]

flashbacks to seed farming

shudders

[livid summit]

is good to play 2p +2p for m+?

or should i wait for 4p

[steep osprey]

I'm not about to plant seeds

thanks though

[proud plover]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bbq3jSQfqKEk_p86wSXmd2kQhN_BnCJLAcMBSVhD2tw/edit#gid=0

[sudden fox]

I swear my MS casts are so much lower than other logs

but im still getting 98s

am i just unlucky with procs rofl

[steep osprey]

WALL OF FLAME!

Amaglamation has great voice acting

[steep osprey]

Loamm Niffen weekly still giving that much lmao

lfr pls give bullion so i can buy leggo

[fading sage]

Never realized how much the leggo does; this is a timed 12 BH

[reef birch]

I have a rumbling ruby 515 that ill replace in 2 or 4 weeks with icon. Would you consider it a waste of aspect crests to bump it to 522 in the interim?

[steep osprey]

hello

BULLION??

[hazy flower]

Not sure what ilv icon starts

From bullion vendir

But not really a waste anyway

[reef birch]

oh yeah

i had to have both slots upgraded to benefit from discounts

i spaced that out

[reef birch]

also, what?

[boreal quartz]

Criminal afk overall

[steep osprey]

I am in LFR

and im not getting it

so im annoyed in this chat

[reef birch]

you arent getting what in lfr

[steep osprey]

bullion

[reef birch]

my first thought was that you are angry for not getting rumbling ruby in lfr

[steep osprey]

why would i care abut that lmao

[reef birch]

hence the confusion

thats on you

[steep osprey]

True

Imagine if I did

[proud plover]

you done normal?

[steep osprey]

no

[proud plover]

just pug that imo its easier than lfr

[steep osprey]

i wanna do normal with orange stick

[vast jetty]

Took me 6 LFR bosses to get this week

[steep osprey]

Also farming flightstones at the same time wso that's fine

[proud plover]

i tanked it few hours after reset - first n third wing got it

[reef birch]

ive tanked lfr in defensive stance with storm wall talent

[proud plover]

tank it in bstance as prot, send all rage into ip and not block, do max dam + max healing

[reef birch]

that would involve me setting up the protections bars and looking up the talents

which would take about the same as finishing the lfr

[weak wave]

Axe is upgradable since yesterday! 🥳

[proud plover]

i tank as much as i play arms so its second nature - lfr means i can have instant q times while still having fun tho

[reef birch]

the latter half of that sentence applies to me as def stance arms with stormwall

[proud plover]

shit like 'can i solo tank smolderon' = yes

oh shit never looked at that talent serioulsy beforre

dbts, full hp

[steep osprey]

arms owns

critting hugee

LFR gaming

[proud plover]

nice, stomp those rets

[bronze loom]

i think i have a bad rotation

always sucking at m+ and got itemlvl 515 now

i guess i do something wrong

[cloud lagoon]

No leggo for me for this week after i cleared the last fyrakk. I am tempted to spend my bullions.

[proud plover]

had to tell just fom that - got a log or something? build? group comp? whats your rotation into a pack? is tank pulling corrrectly?

[bronze loom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/blackrock/mutenx?zone=37

played with this

and maybe i try this now

also i dont like puzzle box that much and think i will switch to rumbling ruby again

[cloud lagoon]

I think that shockwave is good on pugs lot of ppl don't stun and you just get roasted.

But I am not a expert just a new little guy

[austere willow]

What's the off-cd rotation in m+? It's overpower/cleave?

and then do you just sprinkle MS's with SS in between?

[proud plover]

so fom what i can see is your playing bladestom build while using full 4pc s3 tier, a set that basically is empowered by jugg

[bronze loom]

aren't we using bladestorm anymore?

[proud plover]

legit try this build until you get new tier

[bronze loom]

i got full s4 set since yesterday

with vault

the may 1 logs are with new set

[proud plover]

oh? only log i can see/basing this off is a +9 AA where a ret smashed you, kinda going to be true cause ret = aoe burst

[halcyon breach]

If you look at his breakdown up above, you don't see Finishing Wounds anywhere

Which is the SD dot you apply

The build you showed up above Muten is the standard go-to build, and you can go between Uproar and Shockwave depending on your groups needs

[bronze loom]

yes i see can't open the 10 logs

[zenith warren]

do you guys play exhilarating blows over 1/2 bloodborne?

[bronze loom]

i do some more logs to review

[bronze loom]

so i should use my old talents

not the new one?

[halcyon breach]

No

As I just said above, what you used is the standard build in M+

[zenith warren]

top 1 rashok parse is arms with EB instead of bloodborne

[halcyon breach]

You can use the build he linked, but it's a very ST/prio damage heavy build

[bronze loom]

i try the new one now

found it yesterday

[boreal quartz]

EB is better for parsing

[zenith warren]

would having anvil trinket make EB better than bloodborne?

[boreal quartz]

Probably too

But just being able to highroll when the talent is at worst neutral

Is insanw

[silent gazelle]

Hello - arms old 4p or 2p + 2p?

[boreal quartz]

Prolly 2P2P but sim

[verbal ingot]

this answer is given a lot, but, just sim it

[silent gazelle]

oh yea sim, thx

[zenith warren]

eb actually sims only 300 dps lower than bloodborne for me

[exotic kestrel]

EB has bigger RNG swings

[silent gazelle]

2p 2p is better than old 4p with 3.5k dps gain

[steady plover]

@boreal quartz bro splits or ppl

[zenith warren]

is there any way to sim a trinket as you would not use its active?

[exotic kestrel]

dont think so, but why would u want to do that

[boreal quartz]

I dont do splits nah

[slender sonnet]

Splits

[zenith warren]

how many to be geared characters are usually in a split?

[slender sonnet]

I think they usually go like one of each armor type iirc

That’s what I’d do

Or 2

[boreal quartz]

I mean it's less about chars to gear but having multiple attempts

One of them is bound to be lucky

If you do inhouse splits

Echos splits have a higher ratio of helper to main for more loot on more chars iirc

[astral yarrow]

For the most part it’s just to increase the chance of big ticket items on relevant characters. Getting tier + trinkets on your only monk for example. Put that guy in a split where you get as close to guaranteeing that as possible

[zealous basin]

if i play both arms and prot, what stats should or i put on the crafted boots for good measure

[tropic umbra]

got my puzzlebox on my first run lets go!

[hallow vale]

Just used the lego drop chance increase item while i had a shield on my character and it prompted absorb on my incoming log :X 😄 is that how it works ?

[daring heron]

p sure prot likes crit haste too

so crit haste

[zealous basin]

ye it does

i already got versa braces, and prob next week i should craft normal braces with patch for prot too

[slender sonnet]

Crit thoughts on class trink

I’m a propagandist for it now

[lone imp]

Increased damage taken isn't it?

That's spooky

[naive sage]

Raid really isn't my cup of tea I must accept my weakness

(I am uninstalling the game rn)

[lone imp]

Bosses dead tho

[astral yarrow]

Generally doing better than 75% of other arms warriors hmmge

[modest moss]

If it's not 99% you are dogshit at the game and should honestly just uninstal

[naive sage]

Jokes aside, yes, but if you consider parsing only, raid is very unforgiving, if you're unlucky with mechanics and/or you fuck up, you die and your parse will be shit

[cyan flower]

does anyone know if the blue silken lining item provides the same mastery value regardless of the rank of the item you put into the recipe (the only difference being the difficulty added to the recipe is least on the r3 item?)

[lone imp]

Yeah I know, acutely aware you might say lol

[lone imp]

just difficulty

[cyan flower]

ty

[astral yarrow]

If it isn’t you then someone else’s parse dies. Fair game - gotta play well so you parse well when not showered in mechanics

Or view it as a victory that you played them well

[lone imp]

The embellishments scale with ilvl

[naive sage]

I had a 99 parse on fyrakk hc though

[naive sage]

Facts

[boreal quartz]

Or get good

Main trick is overgear content

[astral yarrow]

Don’t get gear for dps, get gear to live standing in fire

Defensives are a dps increase

[slender sonnet]

5%

[boreal quartz]

I need your elp, make me stop surfing rashok

It's a bad look

[astral yarrow]

If it doesn’t kill you it makes you stronger

[slender sonnet]

I used bubble as a dps cd on ret

[naive sage]

Based

[boreal quartz]

It did kill me in the last slam cuz i didnt see the one from behind me zzz

[astral yarrow]

I ate a wave yesterday, had 2 circle thingies and forgot to press roar on pull

All in all good night. Swimming in ilvl rank 1s, but a rank 2 sark though

Couldn’t repeat my streak from Aberrus

[boreal quartz]

Ye for me it's damage good living questionable KEKW

So in tryna work on that

[lone imp]

Our rashok somebody face pulled and they called a wipe

[daring heron]

there are similarly good trinkets that dont have the downside, L trinket

[lone imp]

then we just played it

[astral yarrow]

Our ret is using the shield on pull and saccing the tanks lol

[lone imp]

so my opener was so cool....

[slender sonnet]

I got a 98 on Magnorax

[slender sonnet]

I’m propaganda spreading for it I love it

[boreal quartz]

I got an obscene 360k on zskarn without WFT

HC unfortunately

[lone imp]

I was able to houdini my way out of zskarn

[astral yarrow]

I rocked up to Aberrus at 504 ilvl for full hc into full mythic and we did loot just before sark with no time to upgrade

Was very cool

[lone imp]

mythic tho

[slender sonnet]

It procced during my ToM on execute phase on an experiments wipe and I jumped like 40k dps

[boreal quartz]

Im out for magmo in for zskarn which is bad cuz i didnt prog it

Took time off for 2 months and then did echo sark

Xdd

[slender sonnet]

I was 510 when we went in, came out at 516

[astral yarrow]

Zskarn is not a boss anymore

[slender sonnet]

Full cleared HC and 3 on Mythic

[lone imp]

I am still scarred from zskarn. idc how easy it is now, I still don't want it

[boreal quartz]

Yes but ive never pulled it so i still ran into a bomb

[astral yarrow]

Man I gotta play the game, but new puppy taking all the time

[boreal quartz]

no kill tho

Attack on Sunday

[slender sonnet]

But I had fun on arm

[naive sage]

Tbh, we absolutely blasted aberrus hc and i have average trinkets too (spiteful storm and hourglass 509) so maybe it wasn't the best situation for me, skill issues apart

[astral yarrow]

I have a giga clip of me walking into a bomb hidden behind a weakaura and raid leader sighing loudly at me xD

[lone imp]

We're on nelth now and a bunch of people never killed it before so it's a fun learning experience

[slender sonnet]

My 98 on Magmo felt like the single best pull I’ve ever played in wow

[naive sage]

Tonight mythic raid though

[boreal quartz]

Storm bad for hc

[daring heron]

im taking the L on this week's logs in favour of ratting for crest discounts

can upgrade my leggo before raid but just gonna wait and see if i can get giga discount from looting ashk