arms

[reef glade]

ok loggin in boys

[frosty remnant]

me when i spread misinformation

[reef glade]

still 0 flightstones and crests

[reef glade]

[smoky kayak]

Yeah I know, just need to check the upgrade values

[sharp wyvern]

still doesnt work on EU

[smoky kayak]

since there was some question of whether upgrade costs were being properly reduced

[reef glade]

me when same as jevent

[wind flicker]

It is not archi

[reef glade]

what the flip

crest discount working for some

not all

[wind flicker]

It is asking all crests, even tho we have a higher 2h wep equipped

[fossil thistle]

I had no higher weapon. 502 -> 535 cost me 1900/60/90 🤷‍♂️

[reef glade]

o wait has any single person with a higher weap gotten a "free" leggo

[smoky kayak]

Yeah recent datamining suggested that some discounts weren't being applied to the legos because they had different flags

I'll post in #updates-midnight

[reef glade]

just realized everyone has that issue

guess we still cant upgrade

unless leggo your only weapon

[rapid bronze]

well you can

[reef glade]

just throw away 60 wyrms

[rapid bronze]

you just have to farm the crests again

[reef glade]

and 60 aspects in some cases

[fossil thistle]

Blizzard will reimburse surely

[gaunt owl]

not gonna spend the 30 extra crests

[fossil thistle]

copium

[gaunt owl]

they are precious this week

[pale jungle]

Can confirm though that it's working the other direction - after upgrading my leggo, the discount properly applies to a regular non-bullion 502 2h

[rapid bronze]

I'd imagine this is something they can actually fix quickly

[frosty remnant]

thank you for your patience

[reef glade]

at least no higher ilvl weap on this guy

[fringe moon]

how much is it costing for those that already have a mythic weapon?

I don't see the discount being applied for having a higher weapon

[reef glade]

its not getting applied

[glossy hill]

still not letting me

[reef glade]

making you upgrade as if you dont have a higher ilvl weap

[drifting widget]

i have a 528 currently equipped and it wants full price of upgrades for leggo

[charred quest]

why is it turning purple ><

[pale jungle]

It's giving the Black Friday discount - exact same as original price, just with a different color sticker

[glossy hill]

and there goes update for it

yay

[rapid bronze]

turning purple is close to the cost-benefit of nerves frayed by this weapon

[smoky kayak]

mine is still greyed out lol

[glossy hill]

exit game

[drifting widget]

update for relog

[glossy hill]

and get the update

[pale jungle]

requires client patch

[candid kindle]

exit game force update

[glossy hill]

i got the update and logging back in

[stiff flare]

FINALLY

[glossy hill]

now im able to update

[smoky kayak]

I know lol, it's just funny

[glossy hill]

so its still asking for crests even though i upgraded another one to 522

?

[rapid bronze]

yes

[fringe moon]

can confirm though that it still costs full price to upgrade despite having a higher ilvl weapon

[young axle]

Yeah

DO NOT UPGRADE LEGENDARY IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CRESTS

[smoky kayak]

it's already in #updates-midnight

[young axle]

Thank god we got a crest cap 👍

[half vine]

and flightstone cap

[rapid bronze]

in a season where everyone will play 4 weeks then move on to timerunning

[young axle]

Wouldn't want multiple bugs within the first week to completely ruin some peoples progression and allow others to have a head start already :D

[grim anchor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POP7Jf2jsGI is this video bad

[maiden moat]

its on eu not working ye ?

the legy upgrade

[lethal stream]

lego not fix

[smoky kayak]

I'm not sure, but you need to log out and force a game update

[maiden moat]

i did

[violet steeple]

This fix likely won't take as long as the last 1

[fallow lion]

now i get the update, I ll try

[strange perch]

So do we upgrade or wait for flightstonw discount

[violet steeple]

I'd expect the crest thing to be fixed in an hour or 2

[agile dew]

Blizzard should give us a 2nd legendary axe due to the bug

[fossil thistle]

TBH I didn't upgrade any other waepon. so 502-535 was gonna cost me the same either way

[pale jungle]

yeah I went that route. I just slapped things with my 502 pillow and complained a lot. Worked out in the end

[fossil thistle]

xD

[reef glade]

do u not have a higher than 502 weap?

[rapid bronze]

fuck yes

[reef glade]

u got an ashkandur

its not working

it should be free

[limber bear]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[reef glade]

???

[smoky kayak]

wait

it's halfway working LOL

[reef glade]

as per last two seasons that is not functioning

its supposed to cost 0 crests

up to your highest ilvl weapon

[gaunt owl]

yep it's yoinking crests

do not upgrade boys

[reef glade]

and im assuming that half flightstone cost is the "awakened" tag not the "higher ilvl weapon" tag

[candid kindle]

oh no....

our predictions

[reef glade]

cuz it should be cut into quarters of original price of flightstones assuming those stacked

[fossil thistle]

@reef glade likely

[smoky kayak]

yeah, it looks like just some of the discounts are being applied still

rip

[candid kindle]

of the active not scaling?!....

ohh

[flat vine]

Still costing crests. At this point somebody just needs to escort whatever community college intern is at the update helm out of the building.

[thick kelp]

got a new update now

[gaunt owl]

there is no supervisor

[reef glade]

they're doing their best man

[gaunt owl]

thats the fun thing

[pale jungle]

my favorite part though is still zero communication, at all

[gaunt owl]

4 days til what

[reef glade]

game time runs out

[flat vine]

That's why we have self-checkout at grocery stores now

[gaunt owl]

[young axle]

Nah what do you mean, the gave us that blue post about having no blue post for hunter

And only hunter

[thick kelp]

need to buy gametime

[halcyon breach]

4 days till the season explodes again

[young axle]

😕

[tiny dock]

so how does one go about simming which oathstone for OCE

[gaunt owl]

This is the last time you make me close the game for no results !

[reef glade]

u just click thru each one

[gaunt owl]

BRB after my shower

[halcyon breach]

At the bottom of your sim, there are options to pick which stat you want

[reef glade]

or find some copy paste string into advanced

but idk who has that

[young axle]

What does Australia have to do with this

[tiny dock]

kekw

oh

[reef glade]

subhumans

[tiny dock]

thanks, I'm stupid, didn't see that at the bottom

[young axle]

Ouch

Ok then

I'll be leaving then

[reef glade]

sowwy :3

[minor gust]

Nice I just get off work and they fix this shit

[fervent stratus]

"fix"

[minor gust]

And it's got another bug

[hushed cipher]

sorry guys but, no leggo discounts?

[reef glade]

not working right if u have a higher ilvl weapon no

but if you dont feel free to send

everyone in my guild but me that hasnt been given random weapons from raid

now get that benefit

[frosty remnant]

is this intentional because its a legendary or is it another wait for fix angle if we upgraded a weapon for this

[reef glade]

ya wait

for sure

[limber bear]

question, what ability do you guys use to dismount from dragonriding?

[strange perch]

Charge or trinket

[reef glade]

usually either just hit the mount keybind again or whirlwind

trinket??!?!?!

the fuck?

[strange perch]

Puzzle box?

[reef glade]

what

to dismount a dragon?

[limber bear]

normally on hunter i could just cobra shot to auto-dismount and start fighting but warrior doesn't have anything that can be used at 0-30 yards

[cinder marsh]

Legendary upgrade fixed or not yet?

[strange perch]

Yes??

Why is that crazy

[young axle]

I don't use an ability, I have a macro for dismounting

[potent mesa]

it is

[flat vine]

not really, no

[reef glade]

you like purposefully land and start channeling a puzzlebox instead of dismounting and like flying into the enemies

😦

[fringe moon]

going to wait to see if another fix is pushed for the crest discount....hopefully before raid tonight...

[strange perch]

Yes

[reef glade]

idk it feels pretty fun to hit a whirlwind going mach 20

into a pack

[frigid lava]

u can customize dragonriding action button bar.

[vital mulch]

Do we know if the price will be lowered or if wowhead post is true?

[violet steeple]

Well the post is true but we assume it's a bug and will be fixed

So...both?

[raven ivy]

NEED?

[hazy jungle]

Hey gang. Trying to review my log and saw that I'm doing the same as top parses on everything but execute range.
I was under the impression the execute prio was MSw/2EP>OPw/less than 40 rage>Execute
but when I look at the top logs, they're all just mashing execute and sitting on the MS CD. Is this correct? Whats the reasoning? Are we dumping rage down to 40 then ripping the MS?

My log in exe: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/HhCzB6MLKG3RWnk9#fight=6&type=damage-done&source=4&start=743296&end=787223
Comp log in exe: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:YXKZFfgGC918c362#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=22&start=94118&end=146843

Both logs are no PI and have WF. Only major difference is Fyralath and trinkets

[flat vine]

It will be fixed once the supervisors get their breastmilk returned

[vital mulch]

I see

[lethal pendant]

is 1900 flightstones not the half price?

i thought it was 3800 in the old post

[white vale]

it's probably getting the -50% bullion vendor discount

[young axle]

Yeah, that is half the flightstone cost

[violet steeple]

No we all have a 522/528 so it's def wrong

[young axle]

But it does not benefit from any increased price reductions if you had a higher ilvl weap alreayd

[violet steeple]

It's correct if you didn't have a wep already

[lethal pendant]

oh i see

[gaunt owl]

spaghetti code something something bolognese

[storm lark]

bro i spet my wyrms before i saw thsi shit...

[flat vine]

it's costing crests despite having a higher ilvl weap

[lethal pendant]

i forgot that discount existed, ignore me please

[young axle]

So flightstone cost is half for normal upgrades and then 1/4 presumably for upgrades up to current weapon ilvl

[finite ginkgo]

man I hope this is fixed tomorrow

[young axle]

That 2nd part of that is not working

So wait we shal

Again

Lovely

[strange perch]

Hilarity ensues

[lethal pendant]

i sent it

[half vine]

at least they are making its color correct for it's relative strength

[dreamy egret]

So if we have a 522 weapon we still have to spend wyrm crests to upgrade it ?

This game is mentally challenged.

[placid relic]

😮

don't shit me

[full mantle]

atm yes

[placid relic]

holy fuck

[flat vine]

Replace game with intern and you will be close.

[fierce patrol]

lego fixed?

[frosty remnant]

lol

[dreamy egret]

Nope

[night mulch]

Nope, some able to upgrade but no discount applied to crests/flightstones

[storm lark]

but are we sure this is supposed to be crest free until 522

[dreamy egret]

We continue to wait till they fix it

[limber bear]

do we still want haste buff for AAA?

[dreamy egret]

It's a weapon upgrade so yes.

[fierce patrol]

no

wait what u mean

i used to upgrade all my 2h once

[candid kindle]

do i wait or do i send it?

[fierce patrol]

even as fury, i just upgrade it as arms and gg

[dreamy egret]

Yeah because that's how it's supposed to work

[finite ginkgo]

id wait fi you have a higher weapon

[frosty remnant]

if you upgraded a weapon for it i would wait if you didnt spend crests on a weapon for this then send it

[storm lark]

is it possible to trade aspects to wyrms

[fierce patrol]

alrdy upgraded a hero to 522, more value imo

[fading sage]

It’s not supposed to be crest free but people that have a weapon above 502 don’t get the “having an item at higher ilvl will give a discount”

[gaunt ginkgo]

I seem to have chosen a good week for this xD

[candid kindle]

yeah i already spent maxing asskandy to 522

[dawn sphinx]

Not really sure what I should craft first

[frosty remnant]

then wait so you dont waste hella crests

[finite ginkgo]

I also have 528 weap0on so i wait till legy upgrade is fixed

[fierce patrol]

bis

[fierce patrol]

i think wrists is the way

[dreamy egret]

If you spent crests to upgrade a weapon it should just cost flight stones up to that ilvl

[storm lark]

i have 522 wep

[dreamy egret]

Then crests and flights tone past that

[dawn sphinx]

maybe, Idk bsl seems really good rn

[fading sage]

Then wait bc you’ll spend crests upgrading it to 522 when you’re not supposed to

[potent mesa]

From 502 to 522 only cost 1k ish fligthstones so you only loses flightstones not a big deal imo

[fading sage]

You also lose the crests right now

[potent mesa]

Since I had a 522 weapon already

Well I did 502->522 didn’t cost crests

[frigid lava]

Farming 1000 flightstones.... uhhh

[candid kindle]

it is still copsting the crest thats the thing

[kind sonnet]

do we macro anvil with someting ?

[frosty remnant]

you can macro it to mortal strike but i personally dont

[icy widget]

yeah you got scammed and didnt notice

[worldly sentinel]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/no-crest-or-flightstones-discounts-on-dragonflight-legendary-upgrades-339130?webhook

[sacred zodiac]

can u link

[thick kelp]

no

[sacred zodiac]

sorry

[candid kindle]

bottom right asskandy 522

[thick kelp]

[candid kindle]

discount not applied

[worldly sentinel]

rip, i noticed something wasn't right when i sent my upgrade, think they will reimburse?

i guess not

[keen belfry]

They really testing us eh lol

[worldly sentinel]

bye bye wyrms xD

[candid kindle]

ya ill wait for the discount

so i can upgrade other stuff in the way

[worldly sentinel]

yea im not happy i didn't spot it <.<

i was just hyped i could upgrade

could get it to 525 aswell 😦

[olive nest]

I would just wait it’s not worth waisting the crests

[lost timber]

You gotta go full Reiner

[flat vine]

Trying to play off incompetence as intentional......eh, everyone will forget about it once it's fixed so w/e i guess

[lost timber]

https://tenor.com/view/reiner-braun-aot-season4-fd-fresh-discord-india-gif-24436970

[oblique jewel]

The discount only works, if you have upgraded a wep to that ilvl range before?

[bronze wigeon]

the discount never works

[fading sage]

If you don't have a 502 weapon or higher, you can just send it though. Unless i'm misreading it

[olive nest]

Yes if you have a 522 2h for example bringing lego up to 522 should be 15 aspect and 30 wyrm

Except it’s double

[olive nest]

Because discount broke

[lost timber]

That works if you already have higher ilvl weap

I mean, should

If you're just upgrading as your first weap it's full price

Don't get things mixed up

Just saying

[halcyon breach]

If you have a 522 weapon, it would not cost any Wyrms at all, and instead 60 Aspects to max it

Unless they decide to just have a unique discount for the lego in particular (which at this point can't wait to see)

[young axle]

Would be pretty on brand

To be fair

[modest moss]

Hotfix applied on EU?

[outer holly]

Like it's a weeks worth of crests, just give us the item max and stop stealing time from us

[olive nest]

Oh right it half’s flightstones and shouldn’t cost any crests up until your max item in that slot yeah

[olive nest]

They just trying to be fair to the lesser classes

[outer holly]

fr

I know it's always just weird coding issues but it's hard not to take it as a malevolent choice made internally

that dooming headspace usually means I need to touch grass

[grim anchor]

bruh there are too many buttons to press

[fast nebula]

so if i dont have higher wep than the legend i can send the upgrade?

[reef glade]

w shit!

my fault for not being able to counter play that!

[strange perch]

They just put out a blue post

Discounts are coming

[worldly sentinel]

So Bladestorm or regular m+ build and Cleave or no cleave? <.<

[strange perch]

Just wait

[hard cedar]

If I wanted to make crafted piece with Arms ST for raid and Fury for M+ should I go Haste/Vers on them?

[unborn canyon]

Just parry it

[mint delta]

just imagine how the game code could be to spend 2 days into fixing a priority issue

[olive nest]

Lacks dodge

[cursive sun]

wait

why

is

my

[unborn canyon]

I remember one time I giga ripped aggro on a neltharion pull where I lived cause I parried two attacks

[cursive sun]

wep still not upgradable

tf

[reef glade]

log out get update

[oblique jewel]

close ur app as well

worked for me

[cursive sun]

oh

[young axle]

I'm really interested in why it was a client-side issue that required a personal update

[gaunt owl]

#updates-midnight

[young axle]

How quirky

[gaunt owl]

better read this first

[limber bear]

OH MY FUCKIN GOD GUYS

i just hit a mortal strike for over 7 digits

[unborn canyon]

Let's go

Big damage

[dapper juniper]

guys i just got legendry any tip for me? M+ raid

[olive nest]

Pressing big damage button is the best

Innit

[strange perch]

8 digits?

[sour forge]

10mil mortal strike wow

[reef glade]

next xpac maybe

[potent portal]

9 digits

[strange perch]

[half vine]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-one-billion-mike-meyers-austin-powers-hehe-gif-11108917

[olive nest]

Inb4 legion numba

[limber bear]

sorry i phrased that weird

it was like 1.1mil damage

[oblique jewel]

If you have looted a 506 wep does that count as a discount?

[hard cedar]

yes, but the discounts aren't working yet

[dapper juniper]

guys i just got legendry any tip for me? M+ raid

dont ig me >(

[oblique jewel]

or du u manually have to upgrade a wep in order for it to work

[simple wren]

is the leggo bad luck protection boosted this season?

[olive nest]

I’d start by casting the on use

[tough steppe]

will apply the stone/crest discounts

but they won't give what i spent back

[olive nest]

Pretty good value

[tough steppe]

but i don't care

the upgrade increased my damage a lot

kinda insane

and i still have a lot of stuff to earn

[winged creek]

what's this

[storm lark]

ping me when crests are fixed

[tough steppe]

Crests and flightstones to earn

[winged creek]

is it an addon

or wa or something

[tough steppe]

Oh, I don't know, it randomly appeared in my bag

Might be an addon

But I gotta check which one

[olive nest]

It’s part of elvui bag

Iirc

[dapper juniper]

guysss

give me tip about legendry

just got it

[limber bear]

go do the quest

[olive nest]

Keybind the on use part of it

[limber bear]

i keep mine right above my charge, which is all my "mvoement ability" things, which is right above my arrow keys

[cursive sun]

bro i still cant upgrade

tf

[hard cedar]

what like when to use it? any times not during cooldowns

[hard cedar]

my guild was making fun of one of our druids because he has his movement keys bound to QWE. I'll let him know he's not alone

[limber bear]

well also

[young axle]

QWE is default though

??_??

[olive nest]

I also do qwe

[limber bear]

i have an OLD shift keyboard

so i rebound other keys to special buttons on the keyboard

[young axle]

I assume a lot of people have QWE since they're default keybinds lol

[wind flicker]

QWE default?

[hard cedar]

i use a and d for my strafe, Q and E are bound to other things

[olive nest]

Holy shit! Do you have the cata keyboard!?

[young axle]

Yeah, WoW default keybinds Q and E to strafe

[limber bear]

so like i have my arrowkeys, and then the 5 buttons surrounding the arrowkeys re-bound to a button i don't normally use,

[limber bear]

YES I DO

[copper swan]

azerty gang

[limber bear]

IT'S ONE OF MY PRIZED POSESSIONS

[olive nest]

I’m so freakin jelly bro

[limber bear]

I HAD TO GET IT IMPORTED FROM EUROPE FOR MY 14TH BIRTHDAY

[olive nest]

That’s awesome

[wind flicker]

Oh straving yea just unbind ez

[fading sage]

ASD are my 3 movement keys; strafe left; backpedal, strafe right

[limber bear]

i know it's outdated af but it's one of my favorite things

[wind flicker]

q for spellreflect because the mobs go qq when u reflect 😎

[young axle]

Lmao absolutely not, I much prefer having my movement keys as close to my damage ones as possible

[olive nest]

I personally prefer qwe because my main rotational buttons are 1-5

Kick is R

[hard cedar]

F is heroic leap for me because F is for Flash (or any movement ability)

[young axle]

^

[olive nest]

Stun is T

[young axle]

My kick is a

[olive nest]

So it makes sense for me to have them up higher

[thick kelp]

spacebar for forwards and mouse2 for backwards, mouse button for strafe

[wind flicker]

Scrollwheel for rampage

xd

[young axle]

Everything else is on my mouse

[reef glade]

just got liek 300 flightstones for doing fyrakk assault wq/openingchest/killing disciple

not bad for 10 min

[hazy flower]

Imagine not having kick on cntrl f

And focus kick on cntrl 2

[wind flicker]

Have you considered a doctor?

[blissful tree]

you guys think it is a bug that you dont get any discount on upgrating the leggo?

[young axle]

Yes

[hard cedar]

not think, know, and blizzard knows about it.

[violet steeple]

They posted that it is

[young axle]

Don't do any M+ high enough for focus kicks :D

[violet steeple]

It will be a much quicker fix

[pastel iris]

what u guys buy with the bullion?

[wind flicker]

Surely

[gaunt owl]

FLEX IT MORE !

[hazy flower]

You dont need focus kick in high m+, just helps a bit

[frosty remnant]

F interrupt shift F focus interrupt is bis

[hazy flower]

I was always fast swapping targets for kick

[violet steeple]

It's coming bae

We'll be pumping harder in no time

We're gonna fuckin ascend lmao

[wind flicker]

Focus kick is mostly good for ranged dps, for melee it can kinda screw u over with how far u are from the mob etc

[young axle]

Naturally, but I generally never go higher than a 20 unless my friend drags me to his ~25s

[violet steeple]

I'm already droppin 500kish overall most keys without aug

[young axle]

10 this season

[hazy flower]

It did screw me over once

Rise first pull

Is so fucking cancer

As melee

[wind flicker]

It can be a bit iffy yea

[hazy flower]

Esp with lego and bladestorm

[wind flicker]

For ranged like mage its goated tho

[young axle]

I much prefer speedrunning keys as opposed to just seeing how high you can go before you get 1 shot

[gaunt owl]

Who needs to kick anyway ?

its unbind for me

[urban sand]

any trinket suggestions for bullions?

[pastel iris]

what u guys buy with the bullion?

[wind flicker]

I dont think u should buy a trinket with a bullion imo

[minor gust]

Lego ring trinket

[urban sand]

what is worth then?

[hard cedar]

get rare items that everyone wants

[hazy flower]

Speaking of mages I might be in mage prison soon

[hard cedar]

like those rings

or sark cloak

[hazy flower]

Anything is better than aug though

Wannabe healer spec

[rare kite]

The new Phil

[north meteor]

phil mage potent threat

[hazy flower]

Is phil a mage now

@boreal quartz explain yourself

[thick kelp]

he was magus

[rare kite]

Not atm. He used to be, so he's the resident magus here

[dawn sphinx]

do you not play exhilarating blows in m+ with the new 4p?

saw nom play it

[rare kite]

No

[olive nest]

No only pure ST

[hazy flower]

You dont

Its barely a gain in st

And in any aoe bb gains advantage

[olive nest]

Barely is enough for me

I enjoy the reset rng

[hazy flower]

I mean ill play it

I played it on smolderon

Felt good

Hitting 5 ms in a row

[dawn sphinx]

What's bb?

[frosty remnant]

eb with improved sweeping on mythic kurog was slapping for me

[hazy flower]

Bloodborne

Bleed dam in spec tree

[olive nest]

Ye it’s fun when you MS back to back

[dawn sphinx]

This is what I'm running rn

[hazy flower]

U dont need fbv

[thick kelp]

Start fobbing

forget SD

[hazy flower]

Fueled by violence*

Its pretty piss, gets some heal in aoe but quite useless in st

Get rid of that and put 2nd point in bloodborne

[gaunt owl]

its always helping the first week

i do it sometimes if my healer just sux

[hazy flower]

I played 2 pug keys this season

[dawn sphinx]

wat

[hazy flower]

In 1 key I had goated healer, in 2nd key I was getting cancer from everyone in the party

[dawn sphinx]

fervor of battle I guess?

[hard cedar]

No cleave?

[dawn sphinx]

I was told not to play cleave until I have 4p

[hard cedar]

oooh

[gaunt owl]

no point taking Cleave without 4 set technically

[hazy flower]

^

Also get inti shout

[olive nest]

Ngl I did it anyway

[hazy flower]

Get rid of bounding stride or 1 point of overwhelming rage

[olive nest]

Getting use to the button and when to use it

[dawn sphinx]

Yeah I also want shockwave

[hazy flower]

For shockwave u have to drop uproar

[thick kelp]

yes

[hazy flower]

I like uproar but I have ran a couple of high keys last season with shockwave

Helps if you really dont trust your party

[dawn sphinx]

cleave over 2/2 bb?

[hazy flower]

Or play some weird comp (bm hunter)

[thick kelp]

Cleave is good to keep up DW

i just op op ww

[hazy flower]

And tier

[thick kelp]

and only hit cleave when tierset buff is about to fall off

[olive nest]

Op unless you can’t then WW to reset OP

Basically is how I understood it

[rare kite]

With 4p ye

[dawn sphinx]

Any good way to have both?

[gaunt owl]

if you do FoB you should spam it to get the juicy AM going

[hazy flower]

U could drop massacre

But I’d not recommend that

[thick kelp]

i saw tmy drop massacre and EP for improved slam and 2x bb

[gaunt owl]

yes for full FoB

[hazy flower]

1 point of bb and cleave is the most optimal build rn

[thick kelp]

or this for bloodsurge

[gaunt owl]

Slam do quite a good amount of dmg with those talent

[thick kelp]

not a fan of dropping ep and massa tho

[gaunt owl]

i did 2 keys with it but i sux at the game anyway

[hazy flower]

Also inti shout is severely underused in talent trees

Ive seen plenty of warriors not play it

[gaunt owl]

the key part is to not use your Collateral Dmg without a Warbreaker on the adds

its a really good amount of dmg

[hazy flower]

And it can be quite useful stop for which you dont sacrifice much dps

[gaunt owl]

yeah because the hardcap make it sux

[hazy flower]

Most of the fights

Are like

5-6 mobs anyway

And its 6t capped

• it will always work on your main target

[narrow flax]

did they fix the buillion yet?

for leggo

[thick kelp]

i mean with the fob build

what do u drop for fear

[hazy flower]

I’m not saying its a good button but if you’re running pug keys take either shockwave or this, shockwave costs much more (and is also much better obv)

Sidearm

Sidearm is piss

[gaunt owl]

you have no wiggle room if you take CF points

[hazy flower]

0.7%

[gaunt owl]

if you wanna min / max dps i mean

[thick kelp]

alr not playing ep + massa

no st

monkas

[brave hare]

yes, you can upgrade leggos now

[hazy flower]

One of the reasons I dont like fob that much

[gaunt owl]

put back Slam on your bars too if you get CF

[hazy flower]

You are hard locked into x2 cf

[thick kelp]

Never took it off

[dawn sphinx]

oh yeah I've been told different things, some say you can buy the leggo, some say you can't

which one is it

[brave hare]

you can buy it, it was not originally able to be upgraded

that was hotfixed a short time ago

[gaunt owl]

but now its yoinking your crests if you have an other weapon upgraded

[thick kelp]

https://twitter.com/KirbyAu/status/1785765275427807669

Orlando Salvatore (@KirbyAu) on X

Our QA is some of the best in the industry. Very thankful for all of them. QA leadership is superb as well

Twitter · May 1, 2024, 8:16 PM

Thinks

[mint delta]

so this week is better to play 2x bb and fob over massacre and ep?

[smoky kayak]

QA finds issues, they don't fix them

[brave hare]

for a very short time the discount was not applied but they fixed that too

[dapper juniper]

\

[weak saffron]

Guys, any answer for this?

[smoky kayak]

Blizz QA unironically is pretty good, it's just the game is a mess when the same people are trying to work on 6 different versions of WoW at the same time

[smoky kayak]

no; I really thought it should be an increase, but it doesn't appear to be
that said, if you're waiting for the pack to get pulled together, there's no reason not to either

[young axle]

Can we uh

[thick kelp]

no

[young axle]

Remove all classic WoW except for SoD and remove all retail WoW except for PvE 👍

I'm sure that won't anger people

:3

[gaunt owl]

Bladestorm is such a fake button is probably the problem 😄

[smoky kayak]

ye, though not just BS, also roar, dots, etc

[thick kelp]

Make hamster wheel dungeons only playable content

[reef glade]

joined a 9 uldaman where a tank with 0 discussion or warning i kid you not pulls every single pack up to second boss

we all die on the way ofc no one knew what he was doing

then we wipe like 3 more times from that same pack

and he complains we arent ccing

[smoky kayak]

I still do think it's a good idea to send Cleave if you haven't gotten an MS or something off first, just don't waste cooldown time doing it

[young axle]

Hey I do that

[hazy flower]

Thats not even exodia pull

[reef glade]

and leaves

actual mental deficiency

[young axle]

Ok I don't do that

Lol

[smoky kayak]

Sounds like every VDH I've played with

[reef glade]

it was most certainly a vdh

[hazy flower]

Ye and prob all his sigils were used to gather the mobs

[young axle]

That's the pull I did S2 when I played druid

[hazy flower]

• to pull them

[reef glade]

like some packs he just flew over

i didnt think he would just KEEP GOING

so like i send 1 thunderclap

and insta die

[hard cedar]

It's a good pull but not unplanned

[hazy flower]

Ye thats one big issue with vdh

They have

NEGATIVE

Agro

[dawn sphinx]

What would I trade for inti roar?

[reef glade]

it wouldve been a cool pull tbh if he like, fucking explained himself

and i do like 3mill dps

[weak saffron]

Other thing, often on my opener when I do:

Charge -> Thunder Clap -> Legendary -> Thunderous Roar -> Avatar/Colossus Smash -> Mortal Strike -> WW.

I'm left without rage for that WW, so Im unable to fit 2 WW into the Colossus Smash window. Any tips for that?!

[hazy flower]

With what build, regular or fob

[reef birch]

so lego can be upgraded now but doesnt acknowledge refunds for already upgraded weapons

fkn A

[dawn sphinx]

inti roar is on class tree not spec tree

[hazy flower]

Yes

But fob affects your class tree

[old urchin]

Oh barf. Guess I’ll keep holding off.

[dawn sphinx]

huh

[hazy flower]

Because you have to take crushing force

[gaunt owl]

crushing force are mandatory

[hazy flower]

Which leaves you 1 less point

[gaunt owl]

or FoB is doodoopoopoo

[hazy flower]

And overwhelming rage is better when every gcd costs rage

[dawn sphinx]

What would I want to move around then?

[still fox]

what you say to this? i hate hurricane and sims higher in ST and slice

[gaunt owl]

its the exact opposite of OP/DN but you spend rage while doing it

[hazy flower]

Bounding stride or 1 point of overwhelming rage

[weak saffron]

Why?

Most logs people are not even pressing Slam

[gaunt owl]

Fervor of Battle make you Slam if you have a 2nd target

thats for m+

[latent moss]

with fob u have to

[gaunt owl]

so you get that prio dmg while spinning

[dawn sphinx]

So something like this?

[weak saffron]

Ah got it.

[reef birch]

that point in seismic is entirely useless

[gaunt owl]

drop pain and gain

[hazy flower]

Take 1 point out of crushing force

Or out of pain and gain

Not sure if youre playing fob or not fob

[reef birch]

its 10% dmg increase in ww if you meet the conditions

[dawn sphinx]

For m+ I am

[gaunt owl]

Seismic Rverberation is really not a good talent to take

[hazy flower]

• if youre playing fob, take out pain and gain and put it into crushing force
• if youre not playing fob, take out crushing force and put it into bounding stride or 2nd point of overwhelming rage

[still fox]

okay and the right side is the play without bladestorm and hurricane ?

[gaunt owl]

you only take Bladestorm because Hurricane exists actually

[hazy flower]

But 30% sounds big

[reef birch]

not in m+ i wont

[weak saffron]

Do we remove fatality for FoB?

[dawn sphinx]

I assume we still press slam in m+ with that build right

[gaunt owl]

one day tooltip gonna be readable !

[hazy flower]

Tc>slam

With new tier

You want to keep rend up

[dawn sphinx]

Yeah

[hazy flower]

So you wont really press slam much

[dawn sphinx]

But like with 2/2 cf and maybe even improved slam like ppaw showed it seems huge no?

[sharp valve]

very rarely will be no button to press you can fill with a slam, but its super rare

[obsidian wave]

Are you guys only running 1/2 overwhelming rage to pick up uproar?

for m+

[sharp valve]

you can run both

[reef glade]

uh well its not overwhelming rage u drop for uproar..

but either the wild strikes i think crit thing

[still fox]

yea i know but 1 point more bb and 1 point exhilblows sim higher

[reef glade]

or like shockwave/stam node

[obsidian wave]

would appreciate a fix

[reef glade]

yeah u cant take uproar unless u drop shockwave

most ppl just opt to not worry about it tho

[hazy flower]

Not sure how improved slam comes into the equation but I think you will still tc>slam, maybe some miniscule min/max with slam>tc unless rend on your target is 8-10 sec or shorter

So you can keep tc>slam either way

[dawn sphinx]

So you don't really press slam

And in aoe I press ww on cd

[obsidian wave]

Shockwave is great util tho. You guys are dropping shockwave and stam?

[hazy flower]

You do not yeah

[reef glade]

only if u arent doing a high enough key with dangerous mobs uproar is fine

[sharp valve]

id drop bounding stride in that one

[reef glade]

or if u running in group with alot of cc

but most just take shockwave

[outer holly]

you can still use slam, like once every minute or so I'll have an empty GCD with literally everything on CD

[gaunt owl]

you mostly sim ST and dslice right ? And Dslice even favor ST a bit too Hurricane value skyrocket with the more target you has

[hazy flower]

Checked 1 of my keys for reference and this is the amount of times I used it

Sometimes you will have rage and everythign else on cd

But its 3 slams

In 29:40 min dungeon

[gaunt owl]

lol i dont push it !

[obsidian wave]

what addon is this?

[hazy flower]

Warcraftlogs

Site, not addon

[hazy flower]

Yeah its kinda whatever honestly

Just hate the feeling of not pressing anything

Unless I need to make sure I have rage for Ip on yazma

Double stacking ip with 1 sec window is cringe

[gaunt owl]

i've seen many boss where its easy to do double or triple stack this season

i just dont care enough for m+ 😄

[small carbon]

now i feel like a fool xd

[hazy flower]

Yeah you can but its ass

We need at least like 3-4 sec window

If they want us to work for it

I only really did that on yazma and kurtalos p1

[tawny grail]

how come when I use MS or execute, I only get the 4pc buff sometimes? or is it a chance or something?

[hazy flower]

Rest of the fights just keep 1 ip active at all times, or try to +/-

[limber bear]

trampling hooves is our best ST trinket from mythic+ right?

[gaunt owl]

you need to crit

[tawny grail]

bro my reading comprehension is terrible

[gaunt owl]

dont worry i do this all the time too

[weak saffron]

Other thing, often on my opener when I do:

Charge -> Thunder Clap -> Legendary -> Thunderous Roar -> Avatar/Colossus Smash -> Mortal Strike -> WW.

I'm left without rage for that WW, so Im unable to fit 2 WW into the Colossus Smash window. Any tips for that?!

[reef glade]

k just joined a second uldaman and again another vdh causing group to fall apart except he didnt overpull shit this time just uh, ran first boss frontal over 3 people

very cool

[gaunt owl]

it doesnt matter dont fixate on WW move on to OP

rage income fluctuate wildly

[hazy flower]

Its more of a min/max thing

Wouldnt worry that much

[weak saffron]

Alright, thanks.

[hazy flower]

@gaunt owl what was it, 400 dps increase?

[gaunt owl]

opener is absolute unimportant as long as you send everything

[hazy flower]

If you did that in s3, and not losing on ms/op casts

Consistently and well

[boreal quartz]

i am sure i will get my 60 crests from lego back

[gaunt owl]

cant even remember on wich order it was an increase 😄

[subtle bear]

i search a guide for my billion ^^ what i buy first ashkandur have no weapon or wait for legy and buy trinket ^^

[gaunt owl]

i just made the APL do the Revvez opener on prog

[hazy flower]

Ye aagaard mentioned something quite late season

[gaunt owl]

he didnt wanted to share any more info than i yoinked watching him

[hazy flower]

I was doing that first part of s3 then I just stopped bothering with it and it turned out it actually is a minor increase lol

[thick kelp]

he is secretiv man

and somehow always doing 10-20k more than anyone else

[gaunt owl]

he told me he loves doing his cooking and TC

but its mostly good positioning and smart thinking

more than pushing buttons

[hazy flower]

Walli gets to do the sauce with him now

[agile dew]

did they reduce the legendary upgrade cost yet?

[pale jungle]

Supposedly yes

[boreal quartz]

im sure i will get my crests refunded

[outer holly]

How do I play aoe in jugg? I never really know when to prio exe and I feel like I'm stunting my damage

[agile dew]

So this is the ''fixed'' upgrade price?

[gaunt owl]

restart game

if you have an upgraded weapon its nto gonna cost you that many crests

[steep osprey]

He might not have upgraded weapon

[midnight mural]

fixed

[hazy flower]

@gaunt owl

[smoky kayak]

this is the correct cost if you have a 522 H weapon already

[amber hull]

Dang, i'm sure they'll refund us. I'm sure of this

[hazy flower]

Another great slam usage

[winged creek]

bless

[hazy flower]

[reef birch]

indeed

[steep osprey]

Why is it purple??

[reef birch]

its a pretier color

[dull siren]

Well.. Well...

How big do I sim now ⏸️

[agile dew]

I dont have an upgraded weapon already

[obsidian topaz]

did they update it a second time?

[hazy flower]

@dull siren

100k above me

[dull siren]

I got

[minor pier]

why i cant even upgrade legendary?

[obsidian topaz]

I guess I wont be getting a refund on all the crests I spent to updgrade it

[dull siren]

As well during our reclear

[crisp crane]

fixed (with a 528 2hand)

[noble rain]

It turns back to orange after exiting the upgrade window

[obsidian topaz]

restart game, update it

[hazy flower]

I logged off in m+ talents so cant quick sim to compare

[naive sage]

Wasted my aspect crests on wrist reforging because I didn't know if they were going to fix it anytime soon

My funny s4 experience goes on, stay tuned for more hilarious updates

[gaunt owl]

patience brother is key

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/589HsrVztCbHWswzZnrEta

[smoky kayak]

cosmetic

[hazy flower]

Nvm

Its

Like 105k higher

[agile dew]

So this is the correct price if i don't have any upgraded weapons already?

[minor pier]

didnt work

xd?

[small carbon]

atleast you didnt waste it on a weapon thinking there was going to be discount

xd

[minor pier]

oh ok nvm it didnt upload

even though i restarted

[smoky kayak]

if you didn't have any upgraded weapons already, you could have upgraded an hour ago >_>

[obsidian topaz]

so wait what happens to those of us who instaltly spent the crests and stones to upgade to max level when the fix went live?

[naive sage]

Guess what

[smoky kayak]

you learn from your mistakes?

[gaunt owl]

crests are gone for good

[obsidian topaz]

I wasnt hopeful that blizz was going to fix their second mistake any faster than it took them to fix their first

[gaunt owl]

buh-bye !

[smoky kayak]

you can GM ticket and they might refund, but I wouldn't hold my breath

[obsidian topaz]

nah fk that I'm putting in a ticket

[agile dew]

XD, yes im dumb as fck - but it doesn't get any cheaper right?

[smoky kayak]

no

[young axle]

Take solace in the fact that Blizzard has capped your crests so you will finally know peace

[smoky kayak]

I mean you're gonna be completely done with crests in like 2 weeks tops anyway, whereas bullion is gonna take you like 10 more weeks

the cap is so high, it might as well not be there

[crude bolt]

Hey folks, i geared up my warrior for s4, currently 498, i dont plan on going after the leggo after grinding it on my DK, is Ashkandur going to be my best bullion purchase with that in mind? or should i still just get OCE or the fire damage ring

[smoky kayak]

if you don't think you're going to get the lego or another Myth track weapon, then sure, send it on Ashkandur

if you have a reasonable expectation of getting a Myth track weapon, say from M+ or whatever, then you might wanna hold out

[crude bolt]

yea im not plannin on pushing massive keys but ive already got a couple myth track vault slots. i shall hold out. thanks for the inisght

[lone imp]

Number go up

[simple olive]

Is Puzzle Box as good in practice as it is in sim? Looking to replace a dogshit world quest trinket

[magic canopy]

puzzy b is good

i just dont like it

[smoky kayak]

its very good, you just have to play around the cast time

[sacred zodiac]

its the best you can get from m+

[outer holly]

its pretty good, feels really good on prepull

[smoky kayak]

which is fine if you precast before pulls

[hazy flower]

Used to be better before they changed it and when arms played mbg

[cloud ivy]

What are we doing with rings? double vault of the incarnetes with boullions?

[smoky kayak]

yep

[slow saddle]

2 weeks and i take the dmg one for sure !

[obsidian topaz]

im so fkn annoyed about the whole discount thing

like can they just do it righ t

now I cant max out gear or craft stuff because im capped out

[dapper juniper]

MATE HI

i have a question

[obsidian topaz]

anyway venting here wont do anything. I submitted a ticket

well see

[dapper juniper]

i am at execute phase

i have hero

Cs ready

can i spam execute on Cs?

for tom

[reef glade]

uh ya? u usually spam 2-3 executes and then ms

and do that combo

3 if u have enough rage, if you dont 2 exe then OP then ms

[stark bay]

I'm looking at the trinket list for Arms (for M+) and Augury doesn't even make the top list, is that because of its RNG nature or do we value stats that much?

[kindred lava]

We gaming now

[outer holly]

jugg seems to like aug

[limber bear]

it is likely still good, especially since it can hit 535, but the problem with augery vs it's competition is consistency.

OCE, Icon (and even pips or something like grieftorch) is just free stats/dps output all of the time. no rng no gambling.

augery has the problem of not offering strength, and only doing it's extra damage through crits.

[stark bay]

so for my next bullion I'm probably gonna be looking at Chromatic (cause I don't wanna do mythic experiments again) and then Signet Brand or Grieftorch?

[winged creek]

can we still leggo+BS

[agile igloo]

Yes

[winged creek]

sickomode

[noble anvil]

whats a safe craft atm ?

do i just go lariat without sockets ?

[agile igloo]

I do not think signet is worth the bullion.

[noble anvil]

i got the old rings with sockets but i will probably replace them with new ones with no sockets

[dawn sphinx]

I have no idea if this is good for algethar

508 and definitely fucked my 4p a lot because not tracking it

[winged creek]

looks good

[dawn sphinx]

didn't log sadly

[winged creek]

was ur arcane afk

lol

[dawn sphinx]

470

[winged creek]

or a sale?

ahh ok

[noble anvil]

feels more like fury damage

[dawn sphinx]

🤷

[buoyant moon]

how good is warrior for m+ this tier or kinda meh

[hazy flower]

Raw overalls are pretty meaningless

[boreal quartz]

bangs dam wise

but isnt godcomp

[winged creek]

could prob get a bit more cleave dam in

[hazy flower]

But yeah its decent

[dawn sphinx]

we're amazing at giving out 5% dam for others

[dawn sphinx]

Yeah I don't really know when to press it

[buoyant moon]

been playing nothing but sod

was thinking of coming back

to either war or my ret

[noble anvil]

go ret

[agile igloo]

Cleave op cleave maintain rend(tc)

[buoyant moon]

everyone puts fury at like Dumpster tier

[noble anvil]

it is

[hazy flower]

Its not

[noble anvil]

lower ?

[cinder marsh]

for those who've done doti hard mode last week. does it come in vault?

[boreal quartz]

no

[cinder marsh]

that was quick

ok thanks

[hazy flower]

No

Teach me mage

@boreal quartz

[oak jackal]

man i hat flightstones ...

[buoyant moon]

yeaaaa think i might as well push i havent played since aug evokers were god tier mid season 2

after they came out i gave up on keys

[simple wren]

any suggestion on what to spend crest on after leggo upgraded?

[maiden moat]

they fixed the cost for t he legy

[gray steeple]

pins

[simple wren]

sorry

[tiny dock]

guys i'm trolling myself by using WW and cleave in SS window right

[opaque citrus]

not necessarily

you can't fill every global with a ST ability

[tiny dock]

so cleave is trolling

[opaque citrus]

on 5 or less targets yea

[tiny dock]

or is it cleave > clap

[opaque citrus]

cleave is a replacement for MS

in aoe

[simple wren]

even with SS up?

[opaque citrus]

above 5 targets yes

[simple wren]

kk

[opaque citrus]

(assuming there isnt a strong prio)

[simple wren]

check

[tiny dock]

so less than 5 i should be MSing all day

[opaque citrus]

i think it's like

3 or less without SS

5 or less with SS

idk it's in the guide on wowhead

it's around those numbers though

[boreal quartz]

Cannot anymore

[sacred zodiac]

iirc its 2 and 4 but you shouldnt really be deciding around target count anyways

is there a big fucker that needs to die -> ms

[opaque citrus]

the only thing i know for real is pad

and yogurt

and also that i'm better than everyone here

[sacred zodiac]

one day i might become a yogur male

[opaque citrus]

i doubt it, but keep your hopes up kid

[wintry scroll]

i'm wondering with warlord torment do i TC + avatar first or TC + warbreaker then avatar ?

in aoe

[sacred zodiac]

cant spoil the bunch ..

[hazy flower]

No, keep padding

[opaque citrus]

^

i got to where i am today through violence

and i'm thankful for that

[hazy flower]

Are you fueled by violence

[limber bear]

RIP AND TEAR

[opaque ferry]

yay

finally

[modern quiver]

Why is legendary a hunter weapon, what is this 535 nonsense, gimme the higher ilvl like season 3

[boreal quartz]

It's higher ilvl

[worldly kernel]

Myth track puzzle box first vault

[limber bear]

i do feel like specifically the legendaries should be like 540 or 550

just to emphasize their orange-ness

[worldly kernel]

[opaque citrus]

i have no morals or belief system

[brave hare]

just round it to 600 i like even numbers

[limber bear]

550 is an even number....

[slender sonnet]

arms legend

[violet steeple]

It feels so gooooood

[boreal quartz]

Not horrible

[slender sonnet]

what 1 week of arms looks like

[boreal quartz]

Thank mop

[limber bear]

also guys i know sims are always the bottom line but how do we feel about:

idol of trampling hooves (for st)

chaos grapnel (for cleave/aoe)

[slender sonnet]

real

[boreal quartz]

Both shit

Grapnel is okay tbf

[worldly kernel]

Time to lock in 🔒

[limber bear]

i literally have nothing better

i am rocking puzzle box, hooves and grapnel

[slender sonnet]

this is all u need

[boreal quartz]

Grapnel then imo

[limber bear]

and rumbling ruby*

[quasi elk]

wait. call to chaos good?

[slender sonnet]

ruby fucks

tbh

[boreal quartz]

Ruby is great

[slender sonnet]

I love it

[limber bear]

for....what exactly? sims says ruby is bad*

[slender sonnet]

it procs off everything

[limber bear]

"bad"

not as good as my other 2 trinket choices

but it

it's not huge. less than 1% dif

[slender sonnet]

DN, WW, TC, TR it procs off of

[quasi elk]

huh...

[slender sonnet]

it kinda fucks imo

[quasi elk]

i have HC version of it i just dont know what to use as second trinket

[limber bear]

i like the idea of ruby, ESPECIALLY since it like doubles down on OP

but puzzle box

[slender sonnet]

I'm having a great time with OCE

[brave hare]

signet brand is next bullion for me guaranteed

[opaque citrus]

echo moment

[slender sonnet]

I got assasinated

[opaque citrus]

simply don't

JFK had a skill issue

surely you can do better

[fading isle]

y'all rocking the 535 axe

[opaque citrus]

not yet sadge

[brave hare]

for sure

[slender sonnet]

working on it

(I dont minigame so)

[open saddle]

when does arms use leggo?

[quasi elk]

only have 483 signet, 509 call, 483 pip, lfr zaqali hook

signet should sim better

[noble anvil]

guys whats a safe craft for someone whose spending all his time in raids ?

[brave hare]

not during avatar or smash

[cloud ivy]

woulkd assume wrists

[karmic briar]

trying to do m+ as arms and its kinda annyoing that i cant get shockwave and int shout without nerfing my thunderoust roar. any suggestions of something else i can remove to get shockwave that would feel better than removing roar cd or bleed?

[worldly kernel]

Wrist

[sage badge]

Fobbing it up

[round edge]

is it worth to buy the ashkander if you dont got the legendary

[brave hare]

deswind holy shit, a fellow turalyon refugee

[hard cedar]

you can't get shockwave without dropping the roar CD talent

[sacred zodiac]

you will read the pins

[karmic briar]

guess ima have to cuz if i gotta depend on not getting murdered by pugs im just gona keep dying from random casts

[round edge]

ah ok ty

didnt scroll down on ther pins respect my boy

[sacred zodiac]

ye i wouldnt buy ashkandur tho

its not the hardest thing in the world to find a str 2h considering almost no one will contest you on it

[frozen bramble]

Just do aberrus and :prayge:

[sacred zodiac]

council, the dragon from aberrus and gnarlroot are loot pinatas that drop exactly what you need and you can just buy the eranog ring

[hard cedar]

axe discount is fixed yet?

[smoky kayak]

#updates-midnight

[hard cedar]

sick

[sacred zodiac]

king channel

[outer holly]

my fav qol update ive seen

[round edge]

okay thanks brother

[cinder marsh]

this vendor doens't seem to upgrade my leggo. where is the correct one?

or my char is bugged