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nimble basin
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stacked a vault for this shite lol

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welp cata tier i guess

steep osprey
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yes

waxen warren
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So if i buy the weapon upgrade i wont be able to upgrade it past 4/14 until they fix it?

nimble basin
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correct

waxen warren
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but i will be able to upgrade past that when they do

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so why do ppl say to use bullions on sth else

final dove
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Besides the usual of incarnte and Chromatic essence what raid trinkets are good for m+

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so many selections

nimble basin
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some are waiting.

rough remnant
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Is brand a bad trinket

buoyant hawk
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Brand is bis in ST

astral yarrow
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Brand real good when fights are long enough for it to stack

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So the later we go the less good it becomes as bosses will die giga fast

rough remnant
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I’m seeing it do like .7 overall but I take it the fights are going just too fast

astral yarrow
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I don’t know if I’d ever use it outside of mythic fights and maybe end boss stuff

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Rasz is like 14 mins so it’s very good there

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Sark was about 9 on prog

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If the fights aren’t 4-5mins+ it loses a lot of value

hazy flower
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Last 2 bosses each raid and some exceptions

boreal zealot
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bosses will die gigafast? you haven't seen my raid group 😄

hazy flower
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Tho with how they butchered tindral its barely a 6min fight now isnt it

fervent hawk
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looking for some advice, do i go with icon or tier?

buoyant hawk
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hc tier is obtainable from m+ so I would go with icon personally

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catalysted ofc

fervent hawk
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yeah true

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icon is comparable to ominous

zenith warren
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Not sure if tanks and healers are willing to run icon

buoyant hawk
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Icon + either tank or heal is about as good as oce without full stats

safe cedar
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that's also a mythic icon

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You could always do this weeks content before picking, but I'd value icon highest in that vault

rough pewter
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oi lads

fervent hawk
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yeah looking at bloodmallet icon is beaten if ominous has all buffs

rough pewter
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puzzlebox+bladestorm macro still works?

fervent hawk
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which isn't guranteed

dapper juniper
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guys

boreal quartz
dapper juniper
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does any one knows if ppl kill last boss it has legendry upgrade like sylvanas or not?

true sphinx
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Is there any point playing Crushing Force any more? We are hardly pressing slam anymore?

sharp pawn
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Hey guys is it worth picking puzzlebox ??

misty iron
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this is so cursed

boreal quartz
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yep

boreal quartz
dull siren
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@hexed saddle

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surely lego is fixed soon

fervent hawk
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is the tier set still bugged where it disables both if you have 1p from last tier stil equipped

tepid wigeon
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My tierset bug was having the new 4 set would give me the prot bonus too

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Was shield slamming in arms to insta deplete my bleeds

sharp pawn
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how was the marko for puzzlebox bladestorm ??

dull siren
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you cant do it anymore

sharp pawn
clever crag
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We going Legion territory soon again

clever crag
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Thats insane actually

clever crag
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Last tier compared to one before was a small difference

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This is almost 100%

exotic kestrel
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thats at 515? 525 is defo legion numbers

silent mango
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is augury worth to buy from bullion? (dont have legendary)

heavy urchin
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its actually crazy that the dont fix the leggo bug after 1month ptr

fossil thistle
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I know it’s useless but I’m excited because it’s been a long time I’ve gotten “competitive” parses (back in legion when I played more seriously)
Either way. Im happy. It’s R1 for my item level (which also means nothing)

snow orchid
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legendary upgrade fixed yet?

fossil thistle
exotic kestrel
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dw its "high priority"

fossil thistle
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Pepexecute still feels good to me 😂

fickle mesa
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Long as they give us free upgrades or some sort of compensation for this bs

exotic kestrel
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they wont

fossil thistle
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Legs and dairy upgrade delayed was an inside job 💯

dull siren
exotic kestrel
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Maybe i shouldve joined a new raid guild for fated after all

midnight mural
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major gamer

elfin jasper
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Yo, lego question.
I didn't play my war S3
Can I still kill Fyrakk on LFR/Normal for a chance at the lego?

split lantern
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yes

clever jay
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Have they fixed the Lego upgrade bug yet?

worldly sentinel
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nope

elfin jasper
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Thanks, was there any kind of drop/luck increase with S4, or just the same as it was.

halcyon breach
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It was buffed in S3

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Hasn't been buffed since then

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Also I'd recommend just joining HC groups, since it'll be very easy to do now that people have S4 gear, and there should still be plenty of them

hushed cipher
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are leggo upgrades bugged?

heady spear
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Hi, any advice on the best item to pick as arms, knowing that i only have 3 set 😄

granite siren
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Ring my dude

exotic kestrel
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sir

astral yarrow
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which trinket do i pick

proud plover
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pb if anything purely because you cant buy it from a vendor

reef birch
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Ive seen warriors do m+ with either of these talents and i gotta ask

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isnt it better to swipe 1 point from bloodborne instead?

proud plover
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depends - bb is more aoe execute is more st

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they prolly mashing cleave > opx2 > ww > cleave and in aoe and execute 20% they ms > exe > opx2 > ms or someshit

reef birch
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im saying ive seen people who dont pick cleave -

proud plover
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full ST prio

reef birch
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just go with execute at 35% instead

worldly sentinel
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would make sense

reef birch
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thats m+

worldly sentinel
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u get warbreaker for deep wounds anyway

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is Bladestorm the way to go for m+ now?

reef birch
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how you do 14 fortified nokuds without cleave is beyond me

astral yarrow
proud plover
fervent hawk
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cleave is meh

wind flicker
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So no cleave

reef birch
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so isnt it better to take 1 point off bb and have both cleave and massacre instead

sleek dock
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what is first bullion purchase for arms if you do not have fyralath?

sleek dock
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and 12 weeks out from guaranteed drop

frigid lava
viscid laurel
wind flicker
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The build that Aagaard linked, with 1 point in endurance training tho

sleek dock
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im thinking signet ?

wild spindle
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yo guys now when were running warlords torment how is our opening looking like now in keys? do we just send bladestorm first and then pop avatar and continue with the rotation or do we play like we used to and pop ava then bladestorm?

rough pewter
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whispering trinket could be worth it even if no one in the group uses it?

wind flicker
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And i run intimidating shout

rough pewter
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i have puzzlebox

sleek dock
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not sure if ring has big value if you dont have many fire procs

frigid lava
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it's bare minimal

reef birch
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and yet the 4 ppl im looking in raider io opt for either cleave or massacre with 2/2 bb

fervent hawk
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helm enchant procs it

halcyon breach
astral yarrow
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yeah you can take talents off cruel strikes and short roar to get endurance training and shockwave

frigid lava
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the ring does like 0.1% dmg for just having helm enchant

halcyon breach
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Shadowflame + Helm enchant can proc Eranog/Broodkeeper rings

proud plover
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ring from the vendor at max ilvl or a drop in mythic raid is great sure - dont be tricked into thinking its great at lower ilvls

wind flicker
hazy flower
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Seismic is dog shit

wind flicker
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I like my uproar too much :3

halcyon breach
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Endurance was very good to have first week

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To avoid potential oneshots from bosses

daring heron
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wonder if blizzard thinks seismic increases ww dmg by 30%

proud plover
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all the way - do you even make your healer work talenting for extra stam

astral yarrow
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xd

hazy flower
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Its value is comparable at best to sidearm only if you play fidget spinner

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And even there its probably lower

wind flicker
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Maybe its good with FoB build

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Deswind angle

proud plover
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if it procced a free slam or counted to collat stacks sure

brisk salmon
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Is there a point I should swap to 2/2 or just as soon as the upgrade ilvl is there?

small carbon
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got myth track weapon in the vault (only myth track in here) and i cant decide if should take it just for free upgrades on fyralath or just ignore it and cry

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crit haste ring right next door but

proud plover
fervent hawk
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what's the bug with the leggo?

proud plover
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cant upgrade it past 502

fervent hawk
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ah that'll get fixed pretty soon

small carbon
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would just be an upgrade stick

fervent hawk
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I'd not bother with a wep from vault

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if you have leggo

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just be patient

proud plover
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it is if you dont have hero/myth weapon

bronze loom
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finally got 4p

sharp wyvern
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imagine if leggo wasnt buggedsadge

bronze loom
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what talents are we using now

sharp wyvern
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for ST it should be the exact same

junior scarab
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do you need to kill fyrakk on each difficulty to raise your drop chance

sharp wyvern
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highest difficulty gives you all the ones below

proud plover
small carbon
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wait, does fyralath only upgrade to 525 if it wasnt bugged?

proud plover
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no 535

small carbon
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ahh

proud plover
sharp wyvern
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i dont understand how the leggo bow is upgradable but the others dont

small carbon
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welp, bit the bullet and now i wait for it to unbug for free max level

mint delta
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are we taking SoS or collateral damage with 4p?

proud plover
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sos

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collat only good in fob builds tbh

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you want the rage spent of sos not the damage done

noble anvil
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do you guys think mythic icon with only dps/heal better than hc OCE

proud plover
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sims is the only way

junior scarab
karmic gust
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is it fob or bs build for m+?

noble anvil
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raid mainly

proud plover
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bs hybid or jugg

junior scarab
proud plover
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fob for tree boss in aa is fun

magic canopy
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NGL

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Jugg has felt very nice to play

proud plover
magic canopy
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and i dont need to change what buttons i hit every 2 globals

storm lark
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If im only one with icon do i put “dps” in sims or “none”

magic canopy
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dps

storm lark
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Why is there even an option for none

magic canopy
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idk but that way it only attributes the crit to you

silver silo
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what to buy in first order for bulions except of legendary upgrade, which trinket?

lucid raft
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So... any of you understand coding stuff and know how much it will take to fix the bug to upgrade the leggo?

proud plover
wind flicker
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xD

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The worst thing is, I think it was Archimtiros that reported this bug on PTR already

proud plover
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reported and known bug on ptr..

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it will be fixed by beta right?

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(beta is DF classic)

reef birch
wintry scroll
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is the lego still bugged bruh

daring heron
reef birch
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thats...beyond worthless

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a third of a third

daring heron
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yea

reef birch
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well i feel stupid for picking it until now

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i was lead to believe it worked like legion belt legendary

daring heron
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well it's not exactly obvious from the tooltip

proud plover
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prot seismic works out to be 130% damage on 3+ targets tho right?

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got me wondering now lol

quaint otter
drowsy cobalt
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The wording on the legendary bug response doesnt sound very optimistic

chrome edge
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Hey, just a quick question. Do i use in the basic m+ build bladestorm even on bosses for the hurricane buff?

sturdy matrix
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Is mortal strike 50% heal reduction in PvE?
Also what other abilities from other classes do that amount?

drowsy cobalt
drowsy cobalt
sturdy matrix
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Ah ok are they all the same 50%?

sacred zodiac
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ye but arms gets it for free

reef birch
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im still very confused by everyone in m+ using EP but only 1/3 of them using massacre

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and its always instead of cleave

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is thunderclap the new cleave or wut

sacred zodiac
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are you sure you're looking at ppl w/ 4p

reef birch
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yes

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i imagine few others can reach ~2800 rio this early

sacred zodiac
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who is everyone in this case

frozen lava
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what is the best option to sim arms warriors? dungeon slice 1 target 5min? i want to play m+

sacred zodiac
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i clicked through a few ppl and they're either playing fury or the expected hybrid m+ build

reef birch
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1 point in BB?

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for both masacre and cleave

sacred zodiac
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the one bladestorm stuff

daring heron
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yes

sacred zodiac
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oh ye i found soemone not running massacre

daring heron
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i've been cooking without mass too

reef birch
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i found several not running massacre and 1 not using cleave at all

sacred zodiac
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idk why you'd drop cleave tho

reef birch
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in high m+

sacred zodiac
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that is troll

daring heron
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cleave is pretty huge

sacred zodiac
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do you still have that guys name

reef birch
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i even found one not using sos

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so he can keep 2/2 bb

sacred zodiac
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i mean i wouldnt put too much thought into logout rio builds you can just logout in whatever

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he has cleave and 4p shrug

reef birch
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Madoxd

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went without sos in 12 algethar

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and played nokhud with pure ST - no cleave or bs

sacred zodiac
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can just ask them p sure they#re in here

abstract verge
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Playing with double bladestorm?

daring heron
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no

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2x bb and 1x cleave

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same as the hybrid wowhead build otherwise

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just a cook, so i dont recommend it to people yet

formal dagger
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Hey, I don't have lego but Should I buy Ashkandur while waiting for the legendary ?

daring heron
reef birch
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i would think so, yes

abstract verge
daring heron
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id imagine taking mass instead of SoS in a 2/2 bloodborne build is a small 1% gain or something in ST

reef birch
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in nokhud?

daring heron
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havent simmed it just educated guess

reef birch
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them are some massive pulls

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and its on the forti week

daring heron
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?

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i was just talking pure st sim

astral yarrow
simple wren
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with 2p, always cleave over ms in aoe situations?

tropic umbra
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bladestorm is such a naff button to press

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feels like it doesn't do much

daring heron
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bladestorm is a hurricane generator

tropic umbra
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yeah, that's what i figured

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hit it with nothing up, go ham after

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though apparently TR before is also the done thing

astral yarrow
daring heron
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wait thats a good guess isnt it

astral yarrow
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yep

daring heron
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winner

wild plover
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Still no news about Leggo sadge

noble anvil
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yea wtf first they ruin my spec and now they try to ruin the whole class with this legendary bug

sly venture
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How do I sim a upgraded Fyr'alath in Raidbots? it doesn't show up when searching for the item

sacred zodiac
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came up fine for me

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what did you search for exactly

sly venture
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I typed Fyr'alath, Fyralath etc haha

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Never showed up as an altenative

sacred zodiac
sly venture
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I only get the two first ones.

sacred zodiac
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can you send a screenshot

cold garnet
sly venture
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Haha, apparently it shoed up when I typed 535 in ilvl

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*showed

sacred zodiac
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idk if thats the correct ilvl i just guessed

normal siren
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is it normal for eranog ring to not proc in 5 minutes

signal heart
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hey guys I'm really struggling to find M+ groups this season, more than ever in fact

frigid lava
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I ran an entire HoI and it proc'd 8 times.

nimble basin
frigid lava
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just don't count on it.

sly venture
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So what's the max item level for Fyr'alath in Season 4?

slow saddle
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With new 4p We remove slam from talent tree and bars right ?

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back into pushing tc

sacred zodiac
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ye probably

tacit sandal
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Is Irideus Fragment simming for any1 else almost double then Puzzle in dungeon slice?

sacred zodiac
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dslice is historically wonky at trinket sims

nimble basin
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how do you get a log for m+ mine just says associated with a leaderboard or something.

hazy flower
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You log yourself, then upload it

halcyon breach
glacial hull
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so we take scale of Awakening even with the bug? i assume yes

slow saddle
astral yarrow
halcyon breach
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On some bosses it doesn't really matter, but for cases like Raszageth it's great

astral yarrow
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think taking another option is shooting yourself in the foot

halcyon breach
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So you can easily spec into Wrecking + CC

hazy flower
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That is 🙏 cope 🙏

glacial hull
astral yarrow
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ofc

hazy flower
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I can see it lasting for the next 3 days lmao

astral yarrow
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but i think thats the least "gambly" approach

daring heron
sacred zodiac
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what did @hexed saddle mean by this?

frigid lava
astral yarrow
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we might never know

daring heron
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i think some ppl got 515 rocks?

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must be pretty sick

slow saddle
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from weekly ?:D

quasi torrent
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cocks

frigid lava
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515 rocks? from where?

glacial hull
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from where lol

quasi torrent
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the box from researchers ig

glacial hull
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nice

frigid lava
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I'm not sure if this is good enough.

slow saddle
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not the Worthy allies quesT?

winged creek
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how much is cleave doing overall in you guys keys? I feel like i'm not hitting it enough maybe

slow saddle
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anytimes more than 3 targets

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u hit cleave ?

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even with ss

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or am i mistaken and its +4 with sweep

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+2 without

midnight mural
pale jungle
honest girder
pale jungle
honest girder
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Thanks

dull siren
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I got the ring from vault and the helm enchant isn't procing it enough

daring heron
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gg

dull siren
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Also probs why my lego

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sim went up by like 2k+ dps

daring heron
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ye

opaque citrus
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Bro slamming those transition heroic throws

winged creek
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yeah maybe we get it back some day

daring heron
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think im at 360k with upgraded lego

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maybe i get lucky with anvil

dull siren
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same as my alt warriors

winged creek
dull siren
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poggers

opaque citrus
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Acquired 4pc last night

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Too bad my trinkets are still literal giga ass

hybrid sinew
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wait, is hte leggo not worth using rn?

opaque citrus
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If you have a high iLvl weapon maybe

daring heron
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i'm gonna hold all my crests until after raid tomorrow tho

winged creek
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@ 502 it's not beating my 522 wep

opaque citrus
daring heron
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maybe i get ashk to carry me until lego upgrade bug is fixed

honest girder
quartz moss
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is there a point where you'll run ToM in aoe over IFTK?

pale jungle
hybrid sinew
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oh, im sorry, i see what you mean

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i thought it ment the on use was bugged or something

opaque citrus
hybrid sinew
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yeah i dont have any other wep options unforutnetly

opaque citrus
hybrid sinew
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and saving all my crests/flightsones for it to be presumbly fixed later today

winged creek
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we can hope

daring heron
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everything is my fault

opaque citrus
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Yeah

honest girder
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For god sake Crit

opaque citrus
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You should give me your worldly possessions

hybrid sinew
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if only both you AND archie had reported it

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then it would have been fixed

opaque citrus
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And lead a life of asceticism

hybrid sinew
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just Archie? No fix

halcyon breach
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very powerful

daring heron
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ye thats gonna be my argument for ashk

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im the only one who will use it later

opaque citrus
daring heron
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i dont play that card

cursive sun
opaque citrus
cold garnet
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when he reports a bug on stream and it gets fixed, he can play that card

white hedge
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hi just gotta ask a few questions
arms M+ talents unchanged?
still either heavy cleave(sweepingstike only), bladestorm or ww spam?
or is cleave better now?

cursive sun
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not ww spam

stiff turtle
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upgrade weapon with bullions?

cursive sun
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and u only really play one bs for hurricane

pale jungle
stiff turtle
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interesting

white hedge
stiff turtle
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so save my bullion till then 😛

white hedge
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what about cleave now?

cursive sun
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yes cleave is better

white hedge
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than all other?

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oh oke

cursive sun
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2p enables it

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and 4p makes it better

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so

white hedge
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ye ye oke

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big thanks sire

rose matrix
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Do we save roar for test of might in execute or do we just send it

halcyon breach
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Just send it

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Does not matter if it overlaps with CS or ToM

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Only caveats where you'd use Roar during ToM, would be on Fyrakk souls for example, since the strength matters more if there are multiple targets

olive nest
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Sharing tec

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Aware

lone imp
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Dude, uld trash slaps

daring heron
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it's bolster week isnt it

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so it omega slaps now i imagine

lone imp
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Yeah bro

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I'm at work so I'm on my laptop, on graphics 1

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floor stuff is like

daring heron
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i feel the same going from my pc to a good gaming laptop

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screen too small

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boomer life

lone imp
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Yeah that too

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brother, same.

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And I have lasik on top of being old, plus laptop screen and graphics 1

daring heron
lone imp
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I am gonna start taking macular support supps, I can't be having it get worse than this lol

opaque citrus
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Like you don’t need to pull 1 pack at a time because of bolstering man

daring heron
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I got trolled by chomps in uld a lot last week

brave junco
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Is there a guide for Bullions somewhere i can read?

daring heron
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tank gets storming means crocs will bite next targdt instead

opaque citrus
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I’d get knocked into the air and before I could even say “watch cleave” my melee would die

lone imp
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We love storming

lone imp
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We had an overlap of entangling and the aoe on bromach

hazy flower
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Harmless mechanic

opaque citrus
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I think our enhance died 3 times to storming frontals

lone imp
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Love that one

hazy flower
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Cant tell you how many times i leaped out

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Into storming

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And fucking died

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From aoe mechanics or los mechanics

lone imp
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Get double bounced

icy widget
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Hey guys just woke up surely they fixed the legendary right

lone imp
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Storming on 3rd boss hoi los

opaque citrus
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Lmao

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Also had a death to that in one run

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Our healer got cooked

lone imp
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We just love storming tbh

opaque citrus
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Literal last second

daring heron
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when we tried hoi15 yesterday the healer literally died twice to storming cancelling his cast on 3rd boss

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hps req there is bonkers

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dude was pumping 500kish hps i think

hazy flower
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Ye

opaque citrus
hazy flower
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On a 10 day 1 my healer was doing 450

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And thats a 10

opaque citrus
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500k sounds low if anything to me

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Depending on comp ofc

hazy flower
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I mean ye

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Depends on a comp entirely

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For example I remember comparing it in s2 with some other people

opaque citrus
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But also every healer I know loves that boss

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Because they get to actually play their spec

daring heron
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think a war/ret/rogue takes less dmg than the average grp

hazy flower
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We had me aug enha and they had the godcomp

polar salmon
hazy flower
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My healer did more heal but we wiped

hazy flower
lone imp
hazy flower
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You get sp there

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He’ll do fuckton

lone imp
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Ironically the only time I've felt comfy on that boss was with an hpal

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I was ready to die

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and I felt good the whole time

hazy flower
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I was hard into taking discs over hpals in s2

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Priest was basically mandatory everywhere back then

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So it was either sp competing with tank both aoe and st

opaque citrus
#

Priest is still mandatory 🙂

lone imp
#

Priest period because of how much mind sooth was required

hazy flower
#

Or take a disc + idk rogue ret or smth

#

And md

hazy flower
#

Last season

#

Than in s2

pale jungle
lone imp
#

I'm still working on getting the hang of survival on arms too, so it's spooky af to me

hazy flower
#

Even in relatively lower rio

opaque citrus
hazy flower
#

Wasnt it pretty fotm in s1

#

Too

#

Priest at the start of s2 was the only outlier I recall

daring heron
#

ye sp was top class in s1 too

#

s1 was balanced but sp was the outlier

hazy flower
#

Ye I wasnt so sure of it since I was a 3k player back then

#

Just took whatever has rio

simple wren
#

any eta on leggo upgrade fix?

lone imp
hazy flower
#

Didnt know monk buffs us

#

Wouldve taken those to every key

dapper juniper
#

guys didnt get fixed?

#

buy legendry or not

astral yarrow
#

No

#

Yes

buoyant axle
#

guys, we cleave on 3 or more targets if SS is on cd right? and MS when 3 targets and SS buff

cold garnet
#

buying eranog ring to minmax rn and hope lego takes 2 weeks to fix peepostudy

astral yarrow
#

I wanna say copium

hazy flower
astral yarrow
#

But I also feel like quick leggo fix might be copiun

sage badge
#

Tell Blizz to make the number go up

buoyant axle
hazy flower
#

Yes or higher if there is a clear priority target (boss, mobs with much higher health pool)

buoyant axle
#

yes and also spamming overpower for dn in ss stilla thing ye?

daring heron
#

forget about naszuro tho

lone imp
#

whoopsie

buoyant axle
#

thank you!!!

lone imp
#

op feels so good to press

buoyant axle
#

DN OP

#

dn buff was a good thing :))

lone imp
#

Ye

plush temple
#

What ilvl does legendary drop at if we obtain it now?

sacred zodiac
#

496

#

should be at least

plush temple
#

are you guessin :S

obsidian topaz
#

this is CRAZY that its still not fixed

sacred zodiac
#

send them an email

spark mango
#

guys

#

i have a question

#

if i'm doing a content that people die often

#

is it worth to buy manic over legendary and upgrade heroic weapon?

sacred zodiac
#

no

spark mango
#

you sure tho, lets say people die a lot

#

you can use it 7 times a boss fight

#

around 11m damage

humble basin
#

Don't hedge your bets on the failures of others

spark mango
#

i'm talking about raid boosting

strange perch
#

No

spark mango
#

clients die left and right

strange perch
#

Maybe as your second item

#

But lego will win in long term damage always

sacred zodiac
#

lego is like +30k

slender raptor
#

does arms perform better than fury at the moment?

halcyon breach
#

Yes

strange perch
#

Yes

#

By a lot

slender raptor
#

Alright, thx

spark mango
#

do we have a timeframe for when legendary is going to be fixed?

halcyon breach
#

A while

strange perch
#

No

finite ginkgo
strange perch
#

Do what you want man but grieftorch as first bullon would be a mistake in my eyes

cursive sun
#

wait

#

GRIEFTORCH

spark mango
#

i know how leggo sims but to give you some context

#

our ret in one of the runs did 14.5m torch on terros

#

on 4 minutes

#

was 1m higher than his findal verdict

sacred zodiac
#

buy grieftorch then if you're so sure of it lmao

cursive sun
#

that just tells me

strange perch
#

Every ability will scale off your lego

cursive sun
#

that group is ass

spark mango
cursive sun
#

hm

spark mango
#

that was my initial question

cursive sun
#

i mean regardless idk

#

i feel like id just upgrade lego

#

but

strange perch
#

Do what you want man

spark mango
#

in normal situation leggo is 100% clear

strange perch
#

No one here is going to back that decision lmao

sacred zodiac
#

grieftorch death cdr has an internal cooldown iirc

#

you can't just have 2 ppl spam die and give you infinite trinket usages

cursive sun
#

tbf i HIGHLY doubt grieftorch will outdps a proper 535 fyralath

#

but

sacred zodiac
#

and your boost clients arent gonna perfectly die every 30 seconds

spark mango
#

i just hope legendary doesnt stay like this

sacred zodiac
#

it will until the end of the season

spark mango
#

i mean th ebug

#

that you cant upgrade it

humble basin
#

Obviously it will be fixed

#

Use any random 522 from m+ until then

spark mango
#

yeah but if it takes 1 week its so bad

sacred zodiac
#

nah it will stay unupgradeable until the end of time it is the way it is

drifting widget
#

I took a 528 weapon from vault, and just gonna play fury with 502 fyr in oh until they fix the it. Already developing RSI in my hands...

slow saddle
#

well not a bad descision

tiny dock
#

what build do you guys run in raid for cleave/add fights?

#

the m+ hybrid build?

sacred zodiac
#

except for like diurna last week i guess

magic canopy
tiny dock
karmic sun
#

Does anyone have reccomendations on first bullion spend for m+?

humble basin
#

Certainly not in raid lol

sacred zodiac
#

with sweep stuff

tiny dock
#

gotchya, so just sit ST and zug

#

SS for adds and shit

calm trout
#

Is it worth equiping 2set 2set or better waiting for all 4 ?

sacred zodiac
#

sim q but w/ 2 cata charges and the hc mark of mastery there is not much reason to not shoot for 4p immediately

exotic horizon
#

hello Guys just open my accout i wanna play season 4 . and i want to know if arms or fury better for mythic plus so i can plan my gear better

exotic horizon
lament sigil
#

is the bullion still bugged?

magic canopy
# reef birch Madoxd

The 12 alg was a Fob hybrid build so i didn't take SoS, most of the optimization was that SD is a bad or mid point to take, so i just have FoB to increase the amount of damage WW does with the slam when i use it as a filler. DN does most of the damage and cleave is there mainly to spread Deep wounds for the bonus damage %.

As far as nokhud is concerned im not sure why its showing my pure ST build, heres a SS showing Warbreaker, but i played the Juggernaut build with imp SS in that key. So its just a bug on raiderio's end

#

BcEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7DAJJSkQSiWpkkAAAAABRIKkEUEJQiIJhmEhAAhAAAAAAAAQiWiIgQ0QA is the Fob hybrid if you want to test it out

BcEAfuKaizEAgP2qANDB2hmf7DQRikEJkDkoVKJJAAAAQQEiCJQREQiIJhmEhAEOQIAAAAAAAAkAJJgQUQA is the Juggernaught varient from Nokhud

i dont have IP talented because i dont need it at the current key levels just a lazy point so you can take it or IP if you want.

waxen warren
#

lego fixed yet?

magic canopy
#

also the Fob Hybrid i can attribute more to Deswind as a small AoE gain running fob vs a smaller ST loss running SD

magic canopy
balmy agate
#

So you can test yourself lol

waxen warren
#

small indie company after all

karmic sun
#

If you don’t have the legendary what’s the best first buy with bullions?

exotic kestrel
strange perch
#

Those will be best all around trinkets for all content

#

Gear* not trinkets

minor gust
#

If you feel like your not gonna get the Lego at all in season 4 aka you just started and or your not gonna try Ashkandur is a good choice

olive nest
#

^ Yes that is what I would suggest also. ONLY IF you know for a fact you will not farm the lego off fyrakk.

#

If you plan on eventually getting Lego then do not “waist” the bullion for a short term gain

gray swallow
#

Guyz, about the Legendary update tocken. Is it worthy of updating it since its only +3ilvl per 2 weeks?!?

livid cloak
minor gust
livid cloak
#

It's just bugged

untold oyster
olive nest
#

We will get 535 instantly once they fix the bug that prevents us from being able to upgrade it

#

(Assuming you have the required currency to upgrade)

strange perch
#

Lol

#

Gigglin rn

lucid nest
#

uhm tier set or ashkandur?

strange perch
#

Out of vault?

rugged wave
#

If you're doing only M+, what would be good trinkets? I'm thinking Nelths+Pips?

#

Cause I don't think you can get proper value of OCE/Icon if people not stacking it, right?

strange perch
#

Thise a pretty good options

#

Puzzle box is also very strong

exotic kestrel
#

puzzle box still has a pretty substantial channel right?

halcyon breach
#

no

#

It's hasted

#

Takes about 1.5~ seconds to channel at around 40% haste

exotic kestrel
#

ah

#

sounds less horrible than expected

strange perch
#

On pull counters i cast it at 2 second and am good to go

hazy flower
exotic kestrel
#

5% dmg taking increase sounds hella scary RN

#

did a +12 AA yesterday and i was pressing every defensive on CD on crawg and the elemental

sage badge
#

FoB in halls 11 pepestorm

#

We love DN

hazy flower
#

It doesnt do that much damage on this key level

pure wren
#

Do you guys take Strength of Arms in keys, or Improved Sweeping Strikes?

hazy flower
#

Unless your group has negative dps

mental flower
#

is s3 2p + s4 2p worth more than s3 4p? as fury both raid/m+?

strange perch
halcyon breach
pure wren
#

Running Brack, so I was going to take cleave. I'll leave SoA on.

exotic kestrel
#

i usally take Soa, i like having a bit more ST

halcyon breach
#

It can work but you're better off staying with S3 4p until you have full S4 4p

halcyon breach
#

Bro

strange perch
#

Soa is also just fine for aoe, just have to make sure to be lining dreadnaught up

hazy flower
#

Ya sim wise its not that big of a loss

#

Rather get tiny bit more st

pure wren
#

Thanks. I was just seeing what peoples' preference was.

iron spruce
#

would you guys take pips out of vault or wait if you can grab an OCE?

hazy flower
#

In high keys/mass aoe your top damage will be your bleeds anyway

mental flower
opaque citrus
#

Dreadnaught goes crazy

halcyon breach
#

You can go 2p2p in M+ but sim yourself for raid

#

Most would recommend just waiting still till you have full S4 4p

strange perch
#

S3 4p is still hella strong

exotic kestrel
#

those Tclaps smack

strange perch
#

I preferred s3 playstyle

#

I loved jugg build for keys

slow saddle
#

what?

strange perch
#

Its the same playstyle

#

I know

livid cloak
#

Jugg with cleave is good

slow saddle
#

i mean

#

now u can ACTUALLY use the rage u have?

fickle dock
#

guys, what do you think is best for raid : allied wristguards or torc + mastery above 90% embelish ?

slow saddle
#

the sd procs were such a bait

livid cloak
#

Bladestorm with cleave feels a little weird with the few keys I've done. You just have too many buttons it seems

slow saddle
#

allied

livid cloak
#

Maybe it's just me

slow saddle
#

dude

#

did u have slam

#

befeore?

#

bound ?

fickle dock
#

thx

slow saddle
#

cleave takes slam spot from last season

#

problem solved

#

and i just use it to keep up DW on targets

fickle dock
#

can't wait for 4p cleave in m+ :d

strange perch
#

Too many buttons? Send this man to fury

fickle dock
#

stonks

slow saddle
#

Superthrom i did my first key

hazy flower
#

Cleave takes slam spot in keys on st

slow saddle
#

i still used TC

hazy flower
#

In keys u should yes

livid cloak
#

I feel like cleave on cd during m plus pulls is more damage than just refreshing deep wounds yeah?

hazy flower
#

x2 cf for MINOR st dps increase is not worth

slow saddle
#

i mean yes but dno

hazy flower
#

Rather take some other talents

slow saddle
#

i prefer to Prio target with big ms

#

on any bigger health mob

#

dmg wise

livid cloak
#

I had slam at a little offset keybind in keys since I almost never pushed it

hazy flower
#

And in any aoe tc>slam anyways

livid cloak
#

I'm pushing cleave a lot

slow saddle
#

q = slam Q =

weak saffron
#

How many stacks of Test of Might are you guys usually getting during Bloodlust? And Out of it? Also, is there a way to check the % value on logs?

slow saddle
#

no

narrow kettle
#

does ip still count for ToM like in S1?

slow saddle
#

mut also dont bother

#

get 2 ww's into every CS

#

and thats fine

#

rest is based on procs

strange perch
slow saddle
#

and if u only get 1ww its not a disaster

narrow kettle
#

ok ty!

abstract verge
thick kelp
#

holy 82%

buoyant axle
#

BSL gaming xan

slow saddle
#

i mean thats not a Ruby life pools i swear shit always ticks down 😄

livid cloak
#

Last season was my first season playing arms, so I've never had cleave talented lol

hazy flower
#

I wanna chrck some s3 20’s I did as fury

abstract verge
#

Leggo still not upgreadable?

hazy flower
#

When we were mad overgeared

buoyant axle
thick kelp
abstract verge
#

Bro how long can it take to fix such a little thing

#

Small indie company

buoyant axle
#

For blizz? Maybe 2 weeks keks

weak saffron
strange perch
thick kelp
#

it takes time

abstract verge
#

Might be

#

They re waiting for it to generate his log in credentials

rapid bronze
#

this reminds me of when the servers would go down for days inexplicably during wrath

strange perch
#

Bobby took the code with him when he got fired

minor gust
#

Blizzard spaghetti code going hard on this one. The intern must be suffering.

abstract verge
#

Outsourced to india?

rapid bronze
#

whenever they fix it everyone will forget but I'm just amazed at how they made every possible aspect of this legendary absolute buttcheeks

compact pawn
#

^

rapid bronze
#

acquisition, tuning, tuning of our spec, on-use, quest, upgrading

#

all of them are utter ass

abstract verge
#

Sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit

#

I just want to spend the crest and flightstone i have saved

rapid bronze
#

the fact that we suffered for like over 2 months of garbage damage for the privilege of getting a legendary that tier

abstract verge
#

Which talent u using this week guys? Hybrid Aoe?

thick kelp
#

Fobbin'

opaque citrus
#

I’m cleaving

#

Might swap off bladestorm if pug tanks keep being shit

#

Can’t get big aoe value

faint granite
#

it also proc in ST right?

sacred zodiac
#

it can ye

opaque citrus
#

I’m not sure what procs it for arms

sacred zodiac
#

sim how it does in st against your other options

opaque citrus
#

Whirlwind and TC for sure

sacred zodiac
#

dreadnaught and ww iirc

faint granite
#

raidbots says its huge

#

patchwerk sim

opaque citrus
#

Use it then

#

Ez

buoyant axle
#

then its proccing from ww tc for sure

faint granite
#

instead of signet 483

#

also dreadnaugt

sacred zodiac
#

i mean ye equip it until you get beter

rapid bronze
#

signet sucks in s4 because all the bosses melt

faint granite
#

its procced on overpower

#

yea hright

buoyant axle
faint granite
#

i used it only on raszageth

sacred zodiac
#

signet is good on the bosses that matter i suppose

mortal crag
#

no shot 515 sims higher than leggo at 496 even if i have the eranog ring?

rapid bronze
#

eranog ring procs off helm enchant and shadowflame as well

deft osprey
#

Is the legendary bug fixed yet?

rapid bronze
#

not just leggo

sacred zodiac
#

you're not downing penultimate and final bosses in less than 5 minutes

faint granite
#

weapon 509ilvl or more is better than lego

mortal crag
#

@rapid bronze ty

#

i just didnt knowi f helm enchant and shadowflame spreads as easy as ring

#

so

#

as leggo*

frigid lava
#

ah... I just realized... u get a tier token for io score 2000

rapid bronze
#

does anyone know if you have a 522 weapon how many flightstones and crests you need to upgrade the leggo when it gets fixed?

opaque citrus
#

Flightstones I think will be around 1900 assuming no prior upgrades to other weapons

tough tangle
#

aint no way it isn’t fixed yet

opaque citrus
#

Crests are like 60/90 or something

livid cloak
#

They only opened 10 mins ago I'm pretty sure

#

7am pacific

sacred zodiac
#

it should cost 4.8k this is outrageous

olive nest
#

Don’t worry 2h users always on the back burner

opaque citrus
abstract verge
frigid lava
#

YEAS... 4set

opaque citrus
#

Yeah that’s 50% off of the previous estimate (to the best of my memory)

south nebula
abstract verge
#

Ah okok

abstract verge
late tiger
#

Can i ask before use the mortal strike always need stack up overpower ? or just enough 1 stack overpower

dire hinge
#

Nah just send MS (in single target)

sacred zodiac
#

ignore martial prowess unless you're playing the deswind m+ cook

olive nest
abstract verge
#

We all there waiting

late tiger
#

so in execute phase just spam 2 execute and 1 mortal strike ?

south nebula
opaque citrus
dire hinge
abstract verge
#

Which is good news…. If they let us upgrade the weapon

frigid lava
#

It's usually exe,exe -> op (or cs) -> ms

south nebula
opaque citrus
#

Assuming you aren’t getting any other discounts from having a higher iLvl wep already

#

I have no clue what the flight stone cost is when that’s factored in

late tiger
#

ty a some much help 🍻

rapid bronze
#

I'm guessing if you have 522 you get half off flightstones cost + 60 aspect crests

#

so probably around 1350 flightstones I think

abstract verge
#

Still… useless until we cant upgrade it

#

We need to boost the intern morale

#

He will code faster

arctic iris
#

I wish we had a sense of how long it'd take

Like, are we talking a day or two, or a week?

abstract verge
#

How on earth could it take more than 5 minutes

opaque citrus
#

Look, cut them some slack, nobody notified them during testing

rapid bronze
#

oh wait

abstract verge
#

But i feel like theyre gonna send it during the night in EU

storm lark
#

Next reset surely

nimble basin
#

imagine it actually takes them a week

rapid bronze
#

highly doubt they'd sit on it if they figured it out

abstract verge
nimble basin
#

all the proof you need they have no one working on the game this season lmao

#

should be a day or two

#

surely

rapid bronze
#

at least we got some SoD tuning!

abstract verge
#

Nice to joke about it but i dont think is gonna take long cmon

rapid bronze
#

someone has to man the cata prepatch that 5 people are playing as well

abstract verge
#

Feels like “u re not gonna have it today”

nimble basin
rapid bronze
#

well we didn't

#

it's tomorrow now

abstract verge
#

But next week is a stretch

nimble basin
#

I don't even mind if it took a week id just rather know so we can spend a bullion or not.

rapid bronze
#

imagine if they just brought back gavel

nimble basin
#

should've been a time frame on it.

flat vine
dull siren
jade ember
#

Even if it took a week you'd probably still want to save bullion for axe, surely

nimble basin
jade ember
#

Ya but each thing costs 2

nimble basin
#

oh all cost 2

abstract verge
#

Still

nimble basin
#

fair

rapid bronze
#

all the items are 2 so it doesnt matter

abstract verge
#

Gonna upgrade leggo first

tepid wigeon
#

anyone wannwa risk it 🪿

sacred zodiac
#

this is definitely real

nimble basin
#

yeh fair, would save those eitherway then

jade ember
#

You'd be pushing Fyralath back 2 weeks by spending rn

livid cloak
#

LOL

tepid wigeon
#

pure cap

noble oxide
#

hard pass

nimble basin
#

some for sure

rapid bronze
#

they added an npc to restore it anyway lol

vague nova
storm lark
#

If id have an alt id try it

dire hinge
#

Watch it restore to 496 😳

abstract verge
#

Baiting the shit out of it

faint granite
#

just did Fyrakk still no lego, what should i do buy an item with bullion or hold till nextweek if i drop lego?

winged creek
#

someone do it

#

do it for the boys

jade ember
#

Restores to the quest item, gotta do the questline again

abstract verge
winged creek
abstract verge
#

Imagine

rapid bronze
#

do it for science, like the guys who try spell reflect on everything

faint granite
#

yes

obsidian topaz
#

you guys think I should take neck?

cursive sun
#

idk i think it would be fair to all of us lego owners to make it free to upgrade

#

and just give us the buillons back

abstract verge
cursive sun
rapid bronze
obsidian topaz
abstract verge
cursive sun
#

do raid first

#

get 4p

#

if not

#

get it from vault

obsidian topaz
#

ya thats what Im waiting for

jade ember
#

Yea a piece in your box is guaranteed 4p this week

flat vine
#

Wut, 4pc.....that's not even a choice

abstract verge
#

U can do also 2000 rio for hc token

jade ember
#

With mastery token and 2 catalysts

obsidian topaz
#

I have 1 tier piece, so im going to get KSM piece and 2 catalyst

faint granite
tropic umbra
#

does anyone have a Sweeping strike reminder weakaura? I keep forgetting to press it.

nimble basin
obsidian topaz
#

but Im missing 1 piece of Hero gear to catalyse. I refuse to catalyse a champion piece

abstract verge
#

Do raid

#

Hc is basically lfr now

obsidian topaz
#

ya I'll do it tonight

faint granite
winged creek
#

hmm

#

maybe this is the hidden cook

#

we delete it and talk to this guy

tepid wigeon
#

ill test it on my paladin

#

if it works

dry mesa
#

came here just to say the most annoying thing ever. got hero track puzzle box on first AA run

quaint bloom
#

the man we need

obsidian topaz
nimble basin
tropic umbra
abstract verge
#

❤️

tepid wigeon
tropic umbra
sturdy flicker
#

so do i send on a hero track weapon?

tepid wigeon
abstract verge
dry mesa
#

can you precast puzzle box before m+ start?

#

like is it one of the ones that i can use and it'll reset when the key starts

tepid wigeon
dry mesa
#

hoooooly

tepid wigeon
#

its cool except half the dungeons take an age to actually pull everything so it runs out

chrome flint
#

Either you get it, or you don't

faint granite
#

That's true haha

#

only on week 15 its more then mdr

jade ember
chrome flint
#

All of us warrior rerollers feel the pain of not farming the axe ahead

faint granite
#

yeah i restarted the game bit too late

rapid bronze
#

on another note, is it just me or does grapple do asscheeks level damage?

jade ember
#

o7 to all of my brothers and sisters still fighting in the trenches to get their axe

chrome flint
#

I can blame my dps on being axeless

#

Definitely not a skill issue

weak saffron
#

While comparing some logs, I can safely say that my biggest problem is that the intervals between my CS are around 10 secs larger than the better logs. While I'll try to improve this, I must ask, are there any tips to achieve these 20ish seconds CD for CS? My haste still somewhat low, i believe stacking haste like the big logs are doing helps with it too, right?

fringe moon
#

Wish there was a mythic level version of the shikaari huntress trinket

brittle pelican
#

centaurussy

tepid wigeon
#

thats the biggest rage dump atleast

wooden knot
#

With no maintenance, looks like more waiting on the axe
They sure made a clown show out of the legendary, season 3 and season 4

tepid wigeon
#

and if youre pressing ignore pain to reduce it, dont because that doesnt work anymore

frozen bramble
#

WW has prio over MS during CS?

olive nest
#

MS>WW>OP>TC

hexed saddle
crimson charm
#

(before exe phase)
Prio in CS: MS>WW>SD Procs>OP>TC>Slam
Prio outside CS: MS>SD Procs>OP>TC

#

Only ever use WW outside of CS, if you know that you'll be getting it back for 2x WW inside of CS

fringe moon
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Almost feels like this Lego upgrade gate was intentional

supple prism
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What to do when avatar desyncs from my other cds? Just send or wait?

crimson charm
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Avatar should be sent during CS or ToM, generally speaking