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Yeah its an upgrade for st to break 4pc. but its not good enough to do that
then don't do it.
then I dont get my upgraded bracers top 525
if im just starting and dont have the leggo wep is it worth to just get ashkandur and blast drakes/wyrms on it
what u guys think
run H fyraak this week first
fair
@scarlet wren pin
fuck this game
Really dislike the giant loss in single target for it
they added a npc to retrieve, people did that already lmao
lmao
based
this is to make up for it lmao
make up for what
that'd be great if we could upgrade
3 hours already right
no leggo fix yet?
if only someone had told them about it a month ago 🤔
if only they played their own game
It was a bug on PTR and they didn't fix it then. I don't know why anyone would expect them to rush out a fix.
for the leggo bug
So they gave every weapon a 50% nerf on flightstones because of one item? lol
I don't think so, they just realized it's too much
^
2 items. evoker leggy too
My point still stands
it was insane to not give the items at ther max level in the first place
its the fated season
wouldnt want to ruin the integrity of the race 
why would they simplify things
Well, this is way more generous than SL fated
If you played you'd know
Normal you only get from normal raid
had to go heroic raid to get heroic one
Now you get a myth track weapon for free
just gotta upgrade it
I mean that part is better for sure
wont argue
any of these speed bumps seems dumb to me in a fated season tho
I don't see the issue with upgrading it, they don't want you to get bis and just stop playing
they actually just added a restore for that too lol
Game needs this type of work
see, aren't yall glad the upgrade was bugged? you might have wasted currency like @silk spade!

lol
lmfao
haha
it's not his fault, he was capped on flightstones!
they were burning a hole in his pocket and he just had to spend them
but for real, good change, fyr'alath upgrade is fuckin expensive
....if they'll let us upgrade it
Get fucked @silk spade
how much was the up in total for flightstones?
let us out of upgrade jail
These flightstones are falling out of my pants pockets!
what bullion did u all get besides leggo
What's a good balanced trinket choice for both raid/M+? OCE?
What else besides leggo would you take?
trinket
Everyone has to take leggo
if you dont have lego
welp
rip

I got OCE from normal so far
Owned
Im thinking... maybe icon...
What's a balanced trinket choice for both raid/M+? OCE?
real?
no. Well, got it to 502.
lol
Man... lol
_>
dont worry it'll get fixed for EU, they are more important than NA
ive been afraid to even spend the bullion on the upgrade item
I can't log on rn game is bad

any script to sim weapon runes?
Are we supposed to be able to buy Diurna's ring with bullion?
Bullions galore
you can
Still no lego fix, as of 5 seconds ago.
5 hours to raid. Still a chance
Surely fixed if it was free
Same
waiting till EU reset 🙂
Taking my coat from my shoulders and brushing me free of any dust or debris
We’ll high five at the end nish
What if we make out
can i have someone's second opinion? i got a hero seal and a myth helm in vault and not sure what to choose, i remember someone saying the ring is a good upgrade witht he passive but i dont know if im going to get another myth helm so im leaning towards that
120% take diurnas
weird flex, but ok
If you only do heroic raid and focus mainly on mythic plus
Then the myth helm would be better
You can bullion ring in 2 more weeks
hotfix the weapon already
I still think I’d take ring
ah so back to basics in t1....get max stacks then pop bloodthirst right?
I got the 525 diurnas with a socket in my vault, I didnt even sim
relogged still cant upgrade
"Going to take some time" rip boys
Imagine getting a ring that has a proc about the same value as an embellishment and then passing it up
it takes longer than a month to fix this huh 🤔
No way
oh good
today i was happy bc i tough the vault would be amazing.... my dissapointment is immesurable and my day is ruined.
Never trust vault
real and true
They fix Lego yet?

i think ive done fyrak 700 times (not literally) and still dont have lego
/slitwrists
oh yeah btw is the weekly spark bugged or is it intended on giving just half a spark?
Holy fuck blizzard lmao
Intended
it's correct. Half a week after week 1
thats so stupid for a meme season but what do i know lol
whats funny about the the alleged meme season is that it feels like every other season
its just lie any other season, but is a meme season
Maybe we have to do 8 superblooms to upgrade
id rather off myself
It’s exactly like every other season, binge M+ week1 until only upgrades come from vault/reclear
priority issue = one stressed af unpaid intern working his ass off
Then raid log
bingo. lol
the only think they did right tbh is the weekly spark quest, forcing ppl to go out of valdrakken for once LMFAO
hey faster way to gear new toon is spamming m0s till i get more before jumping to m+?
im a fan of making people do outdoor content, it's the in-game version of touching grass
do content, weekly quest, world bosses and m0
Well get the legendary upgrade in the next patch
if ur toon is fresh anything is good
oh sorry should say s4 new toon. I am 483 =p
thats enough ilvl to do 10s technically
technically is doing a lot of heavy lifting there
i mean you need to be good at piloting your character but ye
even if you were good I think you'd die a lot at least last week on those tyrannical bosses
lol gl getting into a 7 at 483
I cant get invited to a 7 at 505
for 2nd week true and real, but u can always push ur own key
yes
see you guys in some time
the secret technique is having guildies and friends to do keys with
yea for +8 u need to have pretty high io and at least 500 perhaps 505+ this week
i see eranog ring, im happy for u, but also jelly and mad and fuming and mad and crying
I was pugging 8s last week with 495
wuh
i was 500... did some +8s but extremely hard to get in.
probably 100 rejections before invite lol
wtf
i wouldn't be surprised.
M+ is so toxic without friends lmao
Oh it absolutely is and I don’t blame anybody one bit
Why would you risk your key for somebody you know nothing about that has shit score history
Is what it is
where do you go to upgrade legendary? i got the scale of awakening
You don't. Pins/wowhead
it would be higher but we cant upgrade lego
Bugged
what do you sim for when you gem your warr?
trying to figure out if i go crit/mast or crit/haste in my neck
Is that shit still not fixed ?
Are we eu people gonna have to suffer it as well ?
Sounds like it will be hours from now
American can only hope
Im glad americans get to struggle for my ease of mind
maybe NA will get some sort of refund
Na is like a fking ptr for bugs that get fixed for eu
Probably fixed sometime tonight depends how much priority they’re giving it
hey who won the revolutionary war?
maybe 4 free upgrade paths
question
Idk ask my history teacher
the "however" gives me no hope tbh
struggling plate wearers... yea they gonna fix it
xd
do you get ashkandoor if you don't have lego ?
5 dropped and of course just ember for me
prolly yeah
i skipped on asscandy
If you will never farm Lego then I would say yes to this
Weapon is largest contributor to damage
I'm still hoping to get leggo next week... so no asscandy
No
No
Go get ur lego
528 wep > 522 wep from M+
u still have to do ur weekly leggo farm tho
However it’s worth farming Lego imo
I see plenty of leggo grp first day of the week
There is no way people still don’t have lego after 14 reclears
It’s probably people swapping
i didnt come back until late s3
Isn’t it 100% after 14 times
only on HC
most likely ppl playing alts/swapping main
The 14th should be 100% yes
Well yea hc at this point is like lfr
Its 6 Mythic kills for 100%?
So... no worry just shoot for leggo.. keep going to fyrakk grp on the first day of the week
Most people do not play 14 weeks consistently tho
Guys it took me the entirity of s3 to get my lego
Ppl so overgeared now it's just jug jug through
heroic fyrakk barely transitioned to the final phase... it freaking died
Well when u do go try dropping it
What’s the issue there
tswift didn't even get to transform into tree lol
didn't understand that but i guess yeah
just got chromatic essence what stat should i do?
I got haste
Telling people not to bullion a myth track Ashkandur if they knowingly refuse to farm lego is just wrong
What i wanted to say is that when you get to play the game try your luck
where do i go to upgrade my axe more with flightstones / crests?
So, we are not allowed to upgrade legendary weapon this week, we are only allowed to put it at 502?
Until the bug is fixed
It’s just a bug
Yes 502
Ah alright.
oh, yeah well everyone decides for themselves.
We’re in this patch for at least 4-6 months roughly assuming they don’t delay TWW
So you can eventually get Lego
If you do heroic weekly
my haste is getting really low
Iirc we get 1 piece of gear every 2 weeks
Are we running Cleave in M+ generally?
1 bullion per week... 2 bullions to buy a gear.
Yes
cleave is great in M+
alternates craft & bullion, yes
is arms good this patch
What's the prio of cleave vs overpower?
if it's less than 5 targets.. ms is fine
3+ targets without SS
5+ with SS
Mortal strike and rend when debuffs aren't up?
no rend , thunderclap
Sure, I mean TC 🙂
Arms is looking like it will be topping meters in the hands of a good player so I'd say big yes.
my dps sucks though... still not sure what im doing wrong.
probably lack of leggo and augury
Not having Lego gimps you big time
You’d be surprised how many potential taction procs you might be wasting
Gotta hone in the prio
You will blast
I've got a warrior in my guild who's fury for life and I can't wait to stealth gear my arms and then top meters with it lol
is ww even worth casting now other then a filler
You totally want to be casting WW in aoe!?
I had saved my aspect crests just to pump the axe to 535 but sadly they fucked us
Large rage dump/damage
Wym?
Ye but it's useless rn cuz bugged as fuck
And they posted in a very vague, this won't be fast kind of way
Aka it likely will not be fixed today
on cd in aoe and banger filler
Just in time for my entire 1st raid night to be over
abuse ww
cant upgrade it rightnow
Yeah but what do crests have to do with upgrading the Lego?
They only had an entire month to fix it guys, it's so hard
you need to use aspect crest to go past 522
Legendary is not upgraded like normal gear
You buy a token with bullions to upgrade it
It still costs crests
It is after you've upgraded it to Awakened
Wait really? Crests AND buillion?
2 Bullions to make it Awakened, then Flightstones + Crests like any other item
Bob upgrade it further!!!1
If I didn't get my lego this week, should I hold my Bullions or just buy seal of diurna's chosen
Might as well buy an upgrade
This is the least legendary legendary ever LMFAO
so even though its bugged, it's still worth buying it right now correct?
Yes
Okay cool
it was a legendary shopping list
I got the ring... I'm betting I will loot leggo next week
True, I will be big sad If i get it next week though
You still have the grind of crafting it the first time
right
So you’ll have all week to do that
Shopping list wasn't bad. Rare quest in the emerald dream and the super bloom quest were fucking cancerous and whoever thought of that deserves the guillotine.
I hope we never get a legendary again
I haven't had leggo for long time... but
am i only supposed ot cleave in m+ with 2 stacks of OP buff
leggo quests were faaaaaaaaaar more cancerous back in the days
or just send it on cd
In the grand scheme of things if you get the Lego two or 3 days later than if you were to hold your bullion I think you’ll still be happy
We got months of this content
3 weeks at best lmao
Blizzard is holding me back I was gonna pop off tonight with 4pc and lego 😠
timerunning baby
Smh
Yeah but they actually gave you something good. Our current Lego is shit. An on use that will very much get you killed and the only meaningful damage is from the DoT.
Why cleave before bladestorm and Troar in AOE?
to proc tier set
you dont know cancer my son
Hey Hrothmar - raid vault can be items from all 3 raids
ahh ok
8% more dmg on ur bladestorm that still doesnt do dmg because its a hurricane buff bitch
But it's 8% damage on everything else that's ticking at the same time
Roar the real carry
haha yeah i got a Gnarlroot crusher as an option and was like, "oh no"
Like rend, roar and DW
934 mounts? The fuck? I would rather die than do that much farming
Bob plays the game
Bobs home address is in Azeroth lmfao
Lmao
Being eu sure does feel nice

somne time lul
"time" 
this is their way of briefly nerfing us before we unlock the full power of the leggo
we can still turn it into a 502 piece, just cant go higher right?
yup
ok
For now yes
Avengers release in theaters - you can buy your tickets, sit in your seats, but itll take some time to actually roll the film. Thanks for your patronage!
this is our lego experience today
you're taking this too seriously imma be real with you
It's so stupid. It's just an item. There's just a flag to switch on it.

Nice cloaks
hmn feels like new 4pc doesnt do as much aoe as old one
Is blizzard just one dev who knows how to code? And is he on a day off?
L bozo
Double socket it is
what should I buy if I dont have leg?
Are you planning to farm Lego?
alrdy did it this week norm/heroic
didnt get it
been farming it on heroic/norm every week
They pay them in wow tokens, so don't expect too much.
If you are planning to farm Lego consistently I’d go rings for the first two buys
Or unless you get axe of course before the 2nd
When people say “waste flightstones” does it mean if we earn flightstones while we’re capped it’s eating into a weekly limit? Or just that we’re not getting more
Not getting more if your capped is a “waste”
There are solid sources of flightstones that are once per week activities that you’d want to be doing if you’re not capped
Which will be the best trinkets for m+ this season
Omni is one
This is unironically a perk of working for the WoW team.
I was thinkin of rings or trinket
plat star band for mount 
i think i got the ring one s1
Wtf
one SR
i didnt remember if reflect DRs the quall and reflects the beam

so i saved it for the beam
it dont reflect the beam
ah nvm, maybe i was mis rememberin
nah let tank at buffet and get knockeed back and you be clos and rflect the beam
how come on Archon the most popular Arms M+ tree has no cleave? Do we not use cleave?!
it might be because people dont all have tier yet
give it a week since people now have 2 set guaranteed
Right? For a second I thought I was playing wrong
Is there any number that we are aiming with haste? I've seen some of the top logs having 8k~.
How is that trinket in the loot pool?
Also I see people dropping Merciless Bonegrinder for a second point in Bloodborne, that also sounds wrong to me
merciless bonegrinder gross
I’m not running mbg
really...
I run the warlords/BS build
Y’all still buying scale even with bug?
Aka “hybrid”
why does the set feel so weak in aoe I dont remember it being this way
becuase you are used to running burst AOE with MBG in S1
In season 1 we ran double BS/mbg
but they buffed DN so much we also run more DN dam
rip ip
So, now that I have 4pc s4, should I run cleave in M+?
based
mine used to be on Q but now its shift 2
rip the goat
xd heal the oneshot
Based keybinds (4 is cleave, shift-4 is bladestorm but i dont have those on my raid bars)
4 is almost always non-spammable aoe
8 9 lol
it was actually TRoar last season but TRoar also fits the bill of 6 (dot)
ngl these bars are kinda scuffed
i havent played arms in raid in a while
shift-2 should be second trinket slot
alt-8 should be shockwave
How many min targets is cleave with 4pc again? 3?
Wtf!?
That hurts my brain to think about
I ran into a guy for a tier who played like that

Goofy as hell ngl
idk i started it way back in WoD when i was playing rogue
it opens up another column of keybinds basically
Aye if it works for you it’s good right
crazy thing is i switch back to wasd for shooting games lmao
I use asd for movement…
so only difference in rotation from s3 to s4 tier, is that we dont prioritize sudden death procs over mortal strike?
Willing to bet I have the weirdest movement here
in st i mean
what
no way you're throwing shade as an esdf freak
alt+8 is a huge stretch lmao
Strafe left and right are both mouse buttons. So is charge and leap
hehe
no WAY you comfortably press that
with every single 2h player basically getting a 2h. realistically it means you will be one of the few people still wanting one
so you should easily get any 2h wep if you do mythic or heroic
did heroic/norm alrdy
dont think I will do mythic
i don't have legendary and im using bsl over shadowflame patch. is using my bullion on the eranog ring still worthwhile
You still got helm enchant
how reliable is that to proc the ring?
helm enchant procs it
lego/shadowflame patch as well, but you mentioned not running those
Wait
Is there a reason the pinned m+ build doesn't take it?
Is the flare from brackenhide actually good this season?
yeah i don't have the legendary yet since it's fresh and my uptime on bsl is in the 60% range
the M+ builds do take cleave
cleave is like mortal strike
the recommended build is the wowhead one i believe
and iirc it's over 3 targets without ss to swap from MS to cleave, over 5 with SS
BUT the "aoe heavy" double bladestorm build on wowhead does, in fact, NOT take cleave
Weird. When I copied it from the discord post it didn't take cleave
There is a bit of nuance to bsl in general but sf is pretty weak so bsl is fine
Even with ~60% in m+
are we breaking old 4 set to 2p2p or wait til new 4?
how much str should you usually gain from test of might
Depends on a dungeon though u can have much better if you play correctly and have reliable healer
my sims were telling me to break old 4 set for 2/2 for a 5k increase
which one? I don't think there are any builds directly linked on discord atm, just linked to guides n such
but i immediately got new 4pc and its a huge diff
@tiny burrow Invite DK/Ret/Warriors who have legendary and just mooch their drops.
should I get 4 piece tier in my vault or heroic eranog ring
if i have a 522 wep an still farming for fryak leggo should i just send bullion on ring/trinket?
@gilded prawn Kill fyrakk, and find out
solid thanks
If you get legs and dairy, can upgrade it . If not, bullion something this week, and legs and dairy kills for next 2 weeks
how much str should i roughly have from test of might if i play the window right
thanks clears it up
30% is rather high end though
thats exactly what iw as getting around, usually 29, outside of execute phase
Pre execute, obviously
and wasnt sure if it was that important
Nah
kinda wild its been almost 5 hours
been ages since i played arms
and legos still cant be upgraded
Dont pay attention to it
so kinda rusty on all the niche of it
wonder what the issue is
24-30% is typical
Hello! Should i tier my shoulders or Hands and what is the difference i see people doing a mix of both ????
PvP arms
Ask PvP people
That too, we're all pve andies here
Iirc vers>haste for pvp
So opt for max of those stats
But ask there anyways for any questions regarding pvp
Thanks guys
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rr7RWsf1RCLvWB8A56FiHP rasz trinket simming higher than my augury is it just the stat?
i can not get this arms rotation down
Thought it was in the faq but not able to really look atm.
oh yeah the FAQ is in the process of being replaced - just use the actual guides for the time being
same, I am clunky af on the m+ rotation...lols
it probably just should have been zeroed out to avoid confusion
it's not just you - the Arms MT rotation actually is just clunky af
4 is almost always spammable aoe
nah thats shift-5
good to know 
are cleave training dummies a good test for aoe damage to compare to the target dummy sim on raidbots
also am i missing some macros or something this feels weird to look at
In case yall didn't notice, there's a new #updates-midnight channel for Dragonflight/Season 4 specific stuff, just like the one for The War Within Alpha
Going forward, it will be the spot for more day-to-date updates for Warriors, like
- major news - not WH bot spam, just particularly important things like "hey, the legendary upgrade is bugged!"
- major APL updates - not going to post every last thing, but things that majorly affects rotations/talents/decision making will get an update
- editorials & blueposts - again, the ones specific or important to Warriors
The intent is to largely replace pins with a more visible indicator of new information for things that are important at the time but naturally lose importance over the course of a season/patch/expansion - if you don't mute it, the channel should light up whenever there's a new post, or you can hit the follow button for more obvious alerts. There's also another very minor secret feature hidden within for yall to discover.
Pins will still be used for more permanent notices that we don't want to get lost after a few updates, but shouldn't be as saturated by short-term information anymore (obviously we'll play this by ear, and feel free to leave your own feedback as time goes on)
so getting a fat 48% off lust pull is higher than i should be getting? xD
with ToM window
Updates channel is a W
good work archi
If I could react to messages, I’d give it a 👍
Oh...whelp I can wait but that sucke
consume what
you know what feels great
you can't upgrade it past a very early point, i forget, i think it's 506
502
playing jugg m+ and beating a equally geeared ret pal
Skill issue on their part tbh
On execute phase, how bad is using 3 execute into MS instead of 2 execute + 1 Overpower? I commonly have the rage and the CD for it.
ya think?
Hey guys new to arms read the hybrid guide . At what point does cleave take priority over Ms or overpower in 3-4 target fight
It's a dps increase
3t cleave>ms without sweeping
Ty
is 2 set worth losing 4 set to have 2 set of both?
yes
ty!
where can i find trinkets recommendations for arms in s4?
Arms is using 2set s3 and 2 set s4?
i was thinking of using oce and anvil for ST
until you get 4pc - 2+2 is amazing in aoe and sim it fo St
2ex 1op if you're rage starved
You only use op when below 40 rage as a general rule of thumb
Why cant I upgrade my leggo after using bullion item?
It's bugged
oce power is when you have all 5 flights in a goup, anvil is amazing tinket
augury is also just not as good for arms as it is for fury
dont even know why i would assume cuz arms typically has higher crit it would proc more often or something
do u take icon instead? cuz idk whats good passive trinkets for arms
icon for aoe yea, and like brand for st
where can i find an arms talent tree
guide in pins
icon equally is rreat but its power is when all 3 tank/heals/dps have them
is there a different way bcz this is blocked in my region
true cuz i remember crit saying that icon is better but likelihood of ur tank and healer having icon is less than oce
BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQplIRkQOQiSrkEAAAAQQEiCBUEBkkQSoJRIAhECAAAAAAAAJBJJgQ0QA
this is single target string to import
BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQplIRkQOQiWpkkAAAAABRIKkEUEBkISSoJRIABhAAAAAAAAQiWiIgQ0QA
this is for aoe
you can make smaller changes on your own just looking at what people do
What region out of curiosity
like taking shockwave for example
one of my friends when he lived in serbia couldnt access wowhead
Wtf
balkans ofc
balkans moment
i think it was only recent in the last like year or two
you want me to ss you xd
that they did that
Im not saying i dont believe u
now you know my pain
maybe icy veins works?
see if thats different
this works
i guess this is how you breed icyveins enjoyers
just dont allow wowhead in their country
ez
well there ya go
can give a gander if u want i assume its most of the same info as on wowhead
if not the exact same (both written by the same person) :3
noxxic
would you recomend arms or fury for beginners
i tried fury got kicked from like 15 raids and dungens bcz im doing dps lower than a tank
Fury is more fast paced
idk how i dont even ahve that bad gear
If youre unsure
fury is build rage and spend it all on rampage and arms is a simple prio rotation, play what you enjoy
Even after reading a guide
Silly question but 2 & 2 set equipt is still fine ?
Post log
And ask for log review
It can immensely help you if you listen to the tips
how do i post a log
its geeat in aoe and holds up in ST but sim it fo ST
Have you killed any bosses in raid
Ah
If you’re gonna play dps warrior arms is the only choice. Play DH instead of fury
Nobody really logs raid finder so you’ll have to log yourself
Lemme check if there is a guide on how to start logging
Is cleave> slam in ST? (if you have cleave talented)
Is the vault meant to be showing gear from the other raids lol
And enable logging, then upload what you have
Make sure the fights are there aka check the log
And then ask for log review in https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/449510248579858432
Just remember to give a brief rundown, what spec your name in raid or something you specifically struggle with (if your dps is lower than tanks its probably more than 1 issue so mostly for general improvement I guess)
you halped me more in 2 min than youtube in 5 days thank you good sir
Tldr how log works is u can find there all your casts breakdown etc so someone with experience can take a look and see what u may have done wrong
i will try arms now
Yw :]
You guys think arms is overall squishy?
No
not really
this multitarget is whack compared to last season lol
Its not the tankiest spec but it is tanky
fury was just disgusting last tier because they spemmed bloodthirst
15%
I played ret last season, and I rarely die, now iam melting like hell as arms
anyone for the season 1 tier WA so i can track stacks:) or is in in this channel somewhere
that's S2 fury
lmaoo
Fury has a pin to a wa
Thats a skill issue tbh, IP + sr (low cd on 20% dr) + def stance already gives you like ~30% dr + 100k shield
thanks lads coming back
For oneshots can prestack IP for 200k shield (that was in s3 btw it’ll be more in s4 due to higher ap + higher health pool)
legs off piece?
So thing I don't get
Why would a random cloak outsim 2/2
when it's also vs a shadowflame patch
...
Ya know it might help if I didn't for some reason do dungeon slice
So is chaos grapple a sim trap?
where are na vault pics at?
@ocean pond
What should i buy first for arms warrior bis?
techincally the lego upgrade
btw i use iceyveins is that a good site for bis armor
If you don't have it, aim for trinkets like Incarante icon
All that matters from bis is trinkets tbh
Evreything else is more or less down to sims
Read the pins. and IV/wowhead have same author.
Also, do note that the upgrade is currently bugged
Wrong.
Fire rings bigly
Depends on what's the bigger upgrade really
where do i buy the fire ring?
Vault vendor
In the parting glass or where the vault vault is?
Augury still good or we pass on it now? For other better options? As a mostly M+ runner
If you have a leggo, buy the upgrade. If you don't, get Ashkandur. Again, in the pins. If you have a mythic track weapon already, sim trinkets and rings
As Arms Augury isn't that great; there's a lot better options, particularly with the Bullion vendor
parting glass
Bronze enclave.
any Mutated Magmammoth Scale users?
I'm pretty sure that's trash
im simming and its simming higher than OCE
Are you simming with all the buffs
I'd hazard a guess you're doing something funky with your sim
- on similar ilv
It's ok for M+ but many better ones out there
I have ruby and it kinda slaps ngl
same i lvl 522 (heroic OCE) vs 522 mutated magmmoth scale (mythic track, so it could be more)
Probably just link your sim tbh
Yeah, like I managed to get a random cloak to outsim evreything lol
I am pretty sure youre simming without all the buffs which are a major part of that trinket
Is there any reason to stack haste as much as possible? Like MS CD gets reduced enough for only 2 gcds or maybe more ticks from a certain dot?
Or it is just the best stat.
yeah OCE is better with all the buffs, false alarm, but for keys i wont have all the buffs
40/42% is pretty much what sim aims for
I would still not take that magma either way
What does this mean in percentages for stat weights if its not a bother?
Dont bother with stat weights
what stat percentages should be on arms warrior if you have the time
wonder how many OCE havers are out there already
You sim top gear and follow recommendations
Sim aims for 40/42 of crit and haste (or did in s3, might be tiny bit lower with crit now) and rest into mast/vers but either way at all times simply sim yourself as its the best answer you’ll get when it comes to gearing
Ok thank you friend ❤️
yw
just remember that everyone's gear differs so any % will be different, aside from general gearing. That's why everyone says to sim yourself rather than chasing arbitrary numbers.
Is it ever worth using 3x Execute -> MS in execute phase?
if you can afford it yes
According to my calcs it does less dps than 2x Execute + 1x Overpower -> MS, but it eats rage so faster CS
My new goal this season is to farm #1 parses in LFR with mythic grieftorch
is it worth swapping to 2/4 tier this season or waiting for 4/4
But since it eats rage it is not sustainable for more than 2 or 3 cycles
It's just straight up more damage
Fully stacked juggie exe does more damage then OP
now yeah, the MS might do less damage
And yeah. because of this you OP below 40 rage.
When stream @ocean pond, there hasn't been enough Xan shaming lately
According to my math, the OP is worth more dmg than the 3rd execute because of the MS buff. But the fact that higher rage usage leads to better CS uptime makes it complicated
Optimally? 100% crit 100% haste 100% mastery 100% vers
This is the result I got
With constant exe spam rage usage in exe also gives you longer cs + tom overlaps
Which is where you do your biggest damage
Since its like 40-50% str + 30% dam amp from cs
You can go over tho. Once had almost 200% haste and crit in a Torghast. 😄
with new 4pc, is cleave only used on 3+ targets?
Im just talking unbuffed
@charred quest yes
o rele lol i was not doing that
kk thx
Are you accounting for Juggernaught? How many stacks of it?
because if it's just BASE execute, then yes you're right
45min
In addition, using 2x ops just eats up GCDs
I was accounting for max stacks of Jugg
why its torc of past time better than elemental lariat
Are you also accounting for exe exe op op clipping a GCD into Ms's CD?
Loosing casts of MS likely as well
wear a belt if your MSes are loose
If so, why even make that row lol
I calculated everything per GCD, I didnt consider MS CD at all
Because I wasnt looking at a variation where MS would be used before it comes off CD
becasue on typical haste (i'm running about 35%, I'm just gonna use that as baseline) MS's CD is not long enough for 4 gcds, thus wasting casts
bear in mind it's not just* CS reduction, it's ToM fuel
Its also cs reduction though
The shorter the cs cd
yeah that'st he first half of the sentence
The sooner you get it in tom window
Yeah like there's just a lot not taken into account aside from raw damage here
ah i was missing a word, fixed
Doesnt MS CD scale with haste?
yes
Gcd does also
that too
haste reeduced the cd of ms tho
MS is up every 4th GCD during execute yeah
MS -> 3 Spells -> MS
But always 3 spells before MS
Yeah so then my math should be correct
You didnt account for first ms
but again, does not take into account tom or am
But as we said, ToM and CS makes the raw damage not accurate
Then wouldn't that make your math not accurate?
I feel like you're trying to solve a puzzle that's already been figured out by sims, testing the exact thing you're trying to napkin math now
lots of talk of math, but the TLDR is that you want to always end Execute if have 40 rage, and OP if you have under 40 rage, then MS every 4th gcd
Well its accurate, but not considering all the variables
yeah dont trust napkin math
bros, should i just quit right now? i went through half of a normal vault in defensive stance without noticing
Its pretty pointless but I guess its fun for him
how is it only 4.4?
pretty much
Sounds like a massive skill issue
True and real
36% haste
oh for sure 😅 classic andy playing retail 😼
4.2 fom base haste
i mean, as a practical matter, you go EXE EXE OP MS for hte most part, because if you dont the 3rd EXE will be under 40 rage, not always, but pretty often, and your'e supposed to wait for 40 rage to exe anyways
nah its moe like ms > exe x3 > ms > exex2 > op > ms
yeah, maybe its kinda every other one
more like: turn brain off "do i have 40 rage: Execute, no? Overpower"
i was just reading the discussion earlier, and i was like, if you just kinda follow the apl it all kinda works iteself out
Do we like Grieftorch for arms? I got that or the the ring seal of filial both heroic?
or could be exe op exe
i guess the only thing is if you have to wait on the MS if you are out or rage, at which point you'd OP anyways, but at that point you were maybe better off going EXE EXE OP MS anyawys
since now you are minus one GCD that could have been an EXE or a MS
its a meme trinket where you kill you buddiees to get cdr, fun but not reeally viablee unless peeople are dying
never wait on ms lol, you fucked up if its off cd and you cant pess it
yeah, i've def noticed me going EXE OP EXE as well
i mean if you hit 3 executes in a row its not inconvciable you dont have the rage for a MS
run your own key it will fill up fast
people still need it for IO
wrong class wrong key. truely unfortunate
If you aren't a meta class are you even playing wow?
Tru
Good week to end on 4 set's and 510+ on all my warriors
Surely I get a good vault on all
finally got 2pc and want to mess about in a low keey with bstorm build and csnt find a goup lol
Wait till next week
because warriors aren't suppose to exist yet
only 1 half per week
thats not true
If he dosen't have a skill issue should be able to 600k in theroy now 
It is. Only week 1 gave a full spark
we got 2 pieces week 1
Yes
Since I played 2 days in s4
We always do
I realized I had Long SS on 1 of my sims
Devoker is busted

They almost always give us a full spark first week of a season
the number is kinda huge on my main warrior
Prob 365 with lego
I can check
Yep
probs need some stat changes
hopefully the lego stuff is fixed until tomorrow
@magic canopy taking a huge L
and I'm laughing
any other chads go ring instead of lego?

Imagine they dont fucking fix it till monday
What's chad about gimping yourself
That's not a chad. That's just dumb
Because hard issue
raid in 30 wont have it
They said its gonna take time
big cronge
LMAO
To fix it
My champ mgt is doing 25-30m in 10’s atm
Pepega
Better get 2 bullions in compensation if it takes a week

I just hope the bug isn't fixed until Thursday so EU deals with it as well.
I am just not spending any until I see hard confirmation of an actual upgraded lego
I mean I work through my raid anyways so guess who has to do LFR 
My warrior is safe my evoker is stuck
yap yap yap burger king america

Burger King is more popular and successful in the UK than the US. Might be British-owned as well
i have a question about AoE prio
the wowhead multi target prio list says to cast cleave with martial prowess as the number 6 prio
is that exclusively with 2 stacks or is 1 fine?
still havnt fix this yet
ah ok so it's still being updated
Yo guys, I crafted primal molten vambraces with shadowflame at 525 last week on impulse. Everyone says vers wrists. Am I cooked?
just slightly not bis is all
nah that's fine, just a bit less survivability
the verst wrists are just fat
thanks boys
Is there a trigger for EB procs?
some time to fix lol, what. surely it's not that complicated.
maxxed flightstones, will need to spend some tomorrow, and we have no idea if we should spend our crests now.
some time? a week? a few days? blizzard as insightful as ever.
Just a chance evrey ability
And rend ticks with s3 4pc

