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dreamy egret
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why are they forcing us to actually take part in the fucking outdoor world content just let us use stockpiled rep tokens and complete it like sane individuals

final zenith
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Yeah its an upgrade for st to break 4pc. but its not good enough to do that

dreamy egret
obsidian topaz
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do people run double bladestorms on Fort weeks?

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im in S3 tier

scarlet wren
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if im just starting and dont have the leggo wep is it worth to just get ashkandur and blast drakes/wyrms on it

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what u guys think

obsidian topaz
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run H fyraak this week first

scarlet wren
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fair

toxic hull
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@scarlet wren pin

potent mesa
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fuck this game

astral yarrow
toxic hull
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they added a npc to retrieve, people did that already lmao

potent mesa
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lmao

steep osprey
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based

rapid bronze
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this is to make up for it lmao

steep osprey
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make up for what

paper summit
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that'd be great if we could upgrade

steep osprey
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This is a really high prio

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be surprising if they don't fix it asap

dusk bough
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3 hours already right

lost timber
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no leggo fix yet?

dusk bough
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if only someone had told them about it a month ago 🤔

lost timber
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if only they played their own game

humble jewel
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It was a bug on PTR and they didn't fix it then. I don't know why anyone would expect them to rush out a fix.

rapid bronze
steep osprey
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So they gave every weapon a 50% nerf on flightstones because of one item? lol

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I don't think so, they just realized it's too much

dusk bough
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^

gray steeple
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2 items. evoker leggy too

steep osprey
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My point still stands

dusk bough
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it was insane to not give the items at ther max level in the first place

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its the fated season

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wouldnt want to ruin the integrity of the race keks

rapid bronze
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why would they simplify things

steep osprey
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If you played you'd know

dusk bough
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they were locked normal mode right

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was still wrong then

rapid bronze
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yeah it took like 3 weeks to get the first dinar IIRC

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then 2 weeks then 1

steep osprey
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had to go heroic raid to get heroic one

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Now you get a myth track weapon for free

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just gotta upgrade it

dusk bough
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I mean that part is better for sure

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wont argue

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any of these speed bumps seems dumb to me in a fated season tho

steep osprey
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I don't see the issue with upgrading it, they don't want you to get bis and just stop playing

smoky kayak
steep osprey
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Game needs this type of work

smoky kayak
proven meteor
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lol

dusk bough
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lmfao

dire hinge
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haha

steep osprey
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@silk spade

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have to double tag him for that blunder

smoky kayak
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it's not his fault, he was capped on flightstones!

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they were burning a hole in his pocket and he just had to spend them

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but for real, good change, fyr'alath upgrade is fuckin expensive

half vine
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....if they'll let us upgrade it

mortal crag
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stats lookin nice?

dusk bough
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how much was the up in total for flightstones?

half vine
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let us out of upgrade jail

steep osprey
frigid lava
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what bullion did u all get besides leggo

frozen bramble
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What's a good balanced trinket choice for both raid/M+? OCE?

steep osprey
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What else besides leggo would you take?

proven meteor
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trinket

steep osprey
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Everyone has to take leggo

strange perch
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if you dont have lego

frigid lava
steep osprey
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LMAO

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i'm sorry

strange perch
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well

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hes not using his on lego

dusk bough
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rip

dusk bough
frigid lava
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I got OCE from normal so far

opaque citrus
frigid lava
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Im thinking... maybe icon...

frozen bramble
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What's a balanced trinket choice for both raid/M+? OCE?

strange perch
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real?

gray steeple
strange perch
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lol

viscid compass
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Man... lol

rapid bronze
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_>

half vine
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dont worry it'll get fixed for EU, they are more important than NA

dusk bough
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ive been afraid to even spend the bullion on the upgrade item

finite ginkgo
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any script to sim weapon runes?

cosmic oasis
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Are we supposed to be able to buy Diurna's ring with bullion?

olive nest
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Bullions galore

dusk bough
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you can

violet steeple
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Still no leggo fix?

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RIP raid tn, oh well

cosmic oasis
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Still no lego fix, as of 5 seconds ago.

gray steeple
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5 hours to raid. Still a chance

thorn wolf
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Surely fixed if it was free

opaque citrus
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They’re waiting for me to get home from work

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Rolling out the red carpet

olive nest
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Same

minor gust
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waiting till EU reset 🙂

opaque citrus
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Taking my coat from my shoulders and brushing me free of any dust or debris

olive nest
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We’ll high five at the end nish

opaque citrus
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What if we make out

olive nest
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Shiii

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Say less

opaque citrus
olive nest
uncut pasture
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can i have someone's second opinion? i got a hero seal and a myth helm in vault and not sure what to choose, i remember someone saying the ring is a good upgrade witht he passive but i dont know if im going to get another myth helm so im leaning towards that

olive nest
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120% take diurnas

proven meteor
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i think diurna is bis ring

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but what do i know

candid kindle
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weird flex, but ok

olive nest
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If you only do heroic raid and focus mainly on mythic plus

olive nest
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Then the myth helm would be better

olive nest
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You can bullion ring in 2 more weeks

bold granite
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hotfix the weapon already

olive nest
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I still think I’d take ring

storm lark
vapid raptor
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ah so back to basics in t1....get max stacks then pop bloodthirst right?

dusk bough
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I got the 525 diurnas with a socket in my vault, I didnt even sim

dreamy egret
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relogged still cant upgrade

storm lark
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"Going to take some time" rip boys

olive nest
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Imagine getting a ring that has a proc about the same value as an embellishment and then passing it up

dusk bough
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it takes longer than a month to fix this huh 🤔

olive nest
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No way

frigid lava
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icon vs diurna... hmmm

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which one to get

bold granite
candid kindle
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today i was happy bc i tough the vault would be amazing.... my dissapointment is immesurable and my day is ruined.

olive nest
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Never trust vault

smoky kayak
wicked aurora
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They fix Lego yet?

olive nest
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Nah “takes time”

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Lmao

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4 weeks wasn’t enough

wicked aurora
vapid raptor
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i think ive done fyrak 700 times (not literally) and still dont have lego

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/slitwrists

candid kindle
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oh yeah btw is the weekly spark bugged or is it intended on giving just half a spark?

wicked aurora
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Holy fuck blizzard lmao

gray steeple
opaque citrus
candid kindle
vapid raptor
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whats funny about the the alleged meme season is that it feels like every other season

candid kindle
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its just lie any other season, but is a meme season

gray steeple
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Maybe we have to do 8 superblooms to upgrade

candid kindle
hushed sparrow
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the ", however."

olive nest
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It’s exactly like every other season, binge M+ week1 until only upgrades come from vault/reclear

candid kindle
# hushed sparrow

priority issue = one stressed af unpaid intern working his ass off

olive nest
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Then raid log

candid kindle
weary ingot
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hey faster way to gear new toon is spamming m0s till i get more before jumping to m+?

rapid bronze
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im a fan of making people do outdoor content, it's the in-game version of touching grass

candid kindle
thorn wolf
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Well get the legendary upgrade in the next patch

candid kindle
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if ur toon is fresh anything is good

weary ingot
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oh sorry should say s4 new toon. I am 483 =p

sacred zodiac
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thats enough ilvl to do 10s technically

candid kindle
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if ure 483.... go do 7's

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farm 7's for hero track and if ure decent go do 10's

rapid bronze
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technically is doing a lot of heavy lifting there

sacred zodiac
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i mean you need to be good at piloting your character but ye

rapid bronze
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even if you were good I think you'd die a lot at least last week on those tyrannical bosses

dreamy egret
dusk bough
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I cant get invited to a 7 at 505

candid kindle
dreamy egret
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yes

tropic relic
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see you guys in some time

dreamy egret
sacred zodiac
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the secret technique is having guildies and friends to do keys with

frigid lava
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yea for +8 u need to have pretty high io and at least 500 perhaps 505+ this week

candid kindle
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i see eranog ring, im happy for u, but also jelly and mad and fuming and mad and crying

frigid lava
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I just got eranog ring with bullion

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no leggo for this guy

sour forge
tropic relic
frigid lava
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i was 500... did some +8s but extremely hard to get in.

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probably 100 rejections before invite lol

sour forge
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That’s normal for dpa

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Dps*

candid kindle
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im holding on my bullions

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till the fix this shit

olive nest
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Try 2k + to get into a 10 tonight

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Lmao

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Or friends

frigid lava
crimson tree
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M+ is so toxic without friends lmao

olive nest
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Oh it absolutely is and I don’t blame anybody one bit

frigid lava
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im just gonna farm... +8s

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+7~8

olive nest
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Why would you risk your key for somebody you know nothing about that has shit score history

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Is what it is

final zenith
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where do you go to upgrade legendary? i got the scale of awakening

gray steeple
dreamy egret
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it would be higher but we cant upgrade lego

lost zodiac
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what do you sim for when you gem your warr?

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trying to figure out if i go crit/mast or crit/haste in my neck

wintry scroll
dusk bough
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nope

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its going to

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"take some time"

wintry scroll
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Are we eu people gonna have to suffer it as well ?

gleaming cosmos
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Sounds like it will be hours from now

dreamy egret
wintry scroll
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Im glad americans get to struggle for my ease of mind

half vine
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maybe NA will get some sort of refund

wintry scroll
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Na is like a fking ptr for bugs that get fixed for eu

olive nest
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Probably fixed sometime tonight depends how much priority they’re giving it

dreamy egret
half vine
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maybe 4 free upgrade paths

versed carbon
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question

wintry scroll
candid kindle
frigid lava
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struggling plate wearers... yea they gonna fix it

versed carbon
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do you get ashkandoor if you don't have lego ?

frigid lava
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5 dropped and of course just ember for me

dreamy egret
frigid lava
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i skipped on asscandy

olive nest
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Weapon is largest contributor to damage

frigid lava
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I'm still hoping to get leggo next week... so no asscandy

wintry scroll
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No

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Go get ur lego

olive nest
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528 wep > 522 wep from M+

candid kindle
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u still have to do ur weekly leggo farm tho

olive nest
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However it’s worth farming Lego imo

frigid lava
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I see plenty of leggo grp first day of the week

wintry scroll
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There is no way people still don’t have lego after 14 reclears

olive nest
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It’s probably people swapping

proven meteor
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i didnt come back until late s3

wintry scroll
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Isn’t it 100% after 14 times

hallow vale
candid kindle
olive nest
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The 14th should be 100% yes

wintry scroll
frozen bramble
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Its 6 Mythic kills for 100%?

frigid lava
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So... no worry just shoot for leggo.. keep going to fyrakk grp on the first day of the week

hallow vale
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Most people do not play 14 weeks consistently tho

wintry scroll
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Guys it took me the entirity of s3 to get my lego

frigid lava
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Ppl so overgeared now it's just jug jug through

wintry scroll
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Don’t lose hope

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Just keep going

frigid lava
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heroic fyrakk barely transitioned to the final phase... it freaking died

wintry scroll
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What’s the issue there

frigid lava
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tswift didn't even get to transform into tree lol

hallow vale
fresh inlet
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just got chromatic essence what stat should i do?

frigid lava
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I got haste

olive nest
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Telling people not to bullion a myth track Ashkandur if they knowingly refuse to farm lego is just wrong

wintry scroll
molten crane
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where do i go to upgrade my axe more with flightstones / crests?

weak saffron
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So, we are not allowed to upgrade legendary weapon this week, we are only allowed to put it at 502?

olive nest
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Until the bug is fixed

olive nest
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Yes 502

weak saffron
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Ah alright.

hallow vale
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oh, yeah well everyone decides for themselves.

molten crane
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oh its a bug. aigh tlol

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was convinced i fucked up

olive nest
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We’re in this patch for at least 4-6 months roughly assuming they don’t delay TWW

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So you can eventually get Lego

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If you do heroic weekly

wintry scroll
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Next week do we get 3 buillions

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Or only 1

frigid lava
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my haste is getting really low

olive nest
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Iirc we get 1 piece of gear every 2 weeks

cosmic oasis
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Are we running Cleave in M+ generally?

frigid lava
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1 bullion per week... 2 bullions to buy a gear.

olive nest
frigid lava
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cleave is great in M+

smoky kayak
latent hull
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is arms good this patch

cosmic oasis
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What's the prio of cleave vs overpower?

frigid lava
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cleave applies dots aoe

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op -> cleave -> op -> cleave idealy

olive nest
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I rotate cleave op

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Cleave WW filler with OP

frigid lava
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if it's less than 5 targets.. ms is fine

olive nest
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3+ targets without SS
5+ with SS

cosmic oasis
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Mortal strike and rend when debuffs aren't up?

frigid lava
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no rend , thunderclap

cosmic oasis
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Sure, I mean TC 🙂

olive nest
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It’s owning right now

wispy tiger
frigid lava
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my dps sucks though... still not sure what im doing wrong.

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probably lack of leggo and augury

wispy tiger
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Not having Lego gimps you big time

olive nest
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You’d be surprised how many potential taction procs you might be wasting

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Gotta hone in the prio

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You will blast

wispy tiger
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I've got a warrior in my guild who's fury for life and I can't wait to stealth gear my arms and then top meters with it lol

mellow seal
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is ww even worth casting now other then a filler

frigid lava
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i dropped ww..

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ms,op,cs,cleave,execute

olive nest
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You totally want to be casting WW in aoe!?

dreamy egret
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I had saved my aspect crests just to pump the axe to 535 but sadly they fucked us

olive nest
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Large rage dump/damage

frigid lava
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holy shit leggo goes to 535?

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fuck

violet steeple
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Ye but it's useless rn cuz bugged as fuck

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And they posted in a very vague, this won't be fast kind of way

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Aka it likely will not be fixed today

frigid lava
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I'm still chugging my veteran (8/8) 2h weapon

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sad warrior noise

olive nest
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Don’t worry they scratch the EU boys backs

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We got it tomorrow

boreal quartz
violet steeple
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Just in time for my entire 1st raid night to be over

boreal quartz
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abuse ww

dreamy egret
wispy tiger
violet steeple
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They only had an entire month to fix it guys, it's so hard

dreamy egret
wispy tiger
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You buy a token with bullions to upgrade it

olive nest
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It still costs crests

halcyon breach
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It is after you've upgraded it to Awakened

dreamy egret
wispy tiger
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Wait really? Crests AND buillion?

olive nest
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And flightstones

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Lmao

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Sic game

dreamy egret
halcyon breach
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2 Bullions to make it Awakened, then Flightstones + Crests like any other item

tough tangle
brave crypt
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If I didn't get my lego this week, should I hold my Bullions or just buy seal of diurna's chosen

wispy tiger
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This is the least legendary legendary ever LMFAO

proven meteor
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so even though its bugged, it's still worth buying it right now correct?

halcyon breach
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Yes

proven meteor
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Okay cool

dreamy egret
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it was a legendary shopping list

frigid lava
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I got the ring... I'm betting I will loot leggo next week

brave crypt
olive nest
brave crypt
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right

olive nest
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So you’ll have all week to do that

wispy tiger
rapid bronze
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I hope we never get a legendary again

frigid lava
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I haven't had leggo for long time... but

turbid pebble
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am i only supposed ot cleave in m+ with 2 stacks of OP buff

frigid lava
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leggo quests were faaaaaaaaaar more cancerous back in the days

turbid pebble
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or just send it on cd

olive nest
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In the grand scheme of things if you get the Lego two or 3 days later than if you were to hold your bullion I think you’ll still be happy

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We got months of this content

rapid bronze
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3 weeks at best lmao

minor gust
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Blizzard is holding me back I was gonna pop off tonight with 4pc and lego 😠

rapid bronze
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timerunning baby

wispy tiger
obsidian topaz
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Why cleave before bladestorm and Troar in AOE?

minor gust
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to proc tier set

olive nest
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Smort

proud plover
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Hey Hrothmar - raid vault can be items from all 3 raids

obsidian topaz
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ahh ok

minor gust
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8% more dmg on ur bladestorm that still doesnt do dmg because its a hurricane buff bitch

olive nest
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But roar though!

halcyon breach
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But it's 8% damage on everything else that's ticking at the same time

minor gust
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Roar the real carry

dire hinge
halcyon breach
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Like rend, roar and DW

wispy tiger
olive nest
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Bob plays the game

wispy tiger
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Bobs home address is in Azeroth lmfao

dreamy egret
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real

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and true

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1623 mulgore lane

olive nest
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Lmao

hazy flower
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Being eu sure does feel nice

proud plover
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somne time lul

wooden knot
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"time" erga

rapid bronze
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this is their way of briefly nerfing us before we unlock the full power of the leggo

maiden copper
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we can still turn it into a 502 piece, just cant go higher right?

molten crane
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yup

maiden copper
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ok

olive nest
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For now yes

half vine
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Avengers release in theaters - you can buy your tickets, sit in your seats, but itll take some time to actually roll the film. Thanks for your patronage!

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this is our lego experience today

sacred zodiac
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you're taking this too seriously imma be real with you

humble jewel
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It's so stupid. It's just an item. There's just a flag to switch on it.

sour forge
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It’ll get fixed

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Us na people are the beta test

opaque citrus
olive nest
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Oh no

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Sadge

winged creek
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myth track pants

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not awful

thorn wolf
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Nice cloaks

dreamy egret
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hmn feels like new 4pc doesnt do as much aoe as old one

lost zodiac
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Is blizzard just one dev who knows how to code? And is he on a day off?

thorn wolf
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L bozo

boreal quartz
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aware

olive nest
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Double socket it is

tiny burrow
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what should I buy if I dont have leg?

olive nest
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Are you planning to farm Lego?

tiny burrow
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didnt get it

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been farming it on heroic/norm every week

humble jewel
olive nest
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If you are planning to farm Lego consistently I’d go rings for the first two buys

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Or unless you get axe of course before the 2nd

obsidian wave
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When people say “waste flightstones” does it mean if we earn flightstones while we’re capped it’s eating into a weekly limit? Or just that we’re not getting more

olive nest
lost zodiac
odd kestrel
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Which will be the best trinkets for m+ this season

olive nest
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Omni is one

molten crane
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switching to new 4pc is 30k dps increase

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holy

lost zodiac
tiny burrow
unborn canyon
opaque citrus
magic canopy
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11 fort with DBTS and Dstance up

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fuuuuuck

olive nest
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Wtf

opaque citrus
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one SR

magic canopy
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i didnt remember if reflect DRs the quall and reflects the beam

olive nest
magic canopy
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so i saved it for the beam

unborn canyon
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it dont reflect the beam

magic canopy
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yes it does

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you eat the buffet and reflect the beam after

unborn canyon
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ah nvm, maybe i was mis rememberin

proud plover
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nah let tank at buffet and get knockeed back and you be clos and rflect the beam

brave crypt
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how come on Archon the most popular Arms M+ tree has no cleave? Do we not use cleave?!

unborn canyon
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it might be because people dont all have tier yet

olive nest
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They are not aware apparently

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Cleave owns

unborn canyon
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give it a week since people now have 2 set guaranteed

brave crypt
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Right? For a second I thought I was playing wrong

weak saffron
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Is there any number that we are aiming with haste? I've seen some of the top logs having 8k~.

unborn canyon
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big

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just big

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big haste

olive nest
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Cleave is a way to do aoe and proc tier set at the same time

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Good button

wild plover
brave crypt
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Also I see people dropping Merciless Bonegrinder for a second point in Bloodborne, that also sounds wrong to me

unborn canyon
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merciless bonegrinder gross

olive nest
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I’m not running mbg

brave crypt
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really...

olive nest
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I run the warlords/BS build

agile igloo
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Y’all still buying scale even with bug?

olive nest
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Aka “hybrid”

agile igloo
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Or getting bis trinket?

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I got the mythic durina ring in vault

unborn canyon
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scale, with hope they fix bug soon

dreamy egret
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why does the set feel so weak in aoe I dont remember it being this way

magic canopy
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becuase you are used to running burst AOE with MBG in S1

olive nest
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In season 1 we ran double BS/mbg

magic canopy
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but they buffed DN so much we also run more DN dam

boreal quartz
weak saffron
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So, now that I have 4pc s4, should I run cleave in M+?

olive nest
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True IP would have lived

magic canopy
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im legit playing non IP

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becuase i already have 800 aoe buttons to press

smoky kayak
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based

olive nest
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I reach across the keyboard to press 6 for IP

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You can too

tough tangle
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IP is a crutch

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let the healers do some work

boreal quartz
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rip the goat

boreal quartz
olive nest
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Can’t use crutches if you’re dead 4head

opaque citrus
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Based keybinds (4 is cleave, shift-4 is bladestorm but i dont have those on my raid bars)

olive nest
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4 cleave gang

opaque citrus
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4 is almost always non-spammable aoe

opaque citrus
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it was actually TRoar last season but TRoar also fits the bill of 6 (dot)

opaque citrus
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i havent played arms in raid in a while

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shift-2 should be second trinket slot

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alt-8 should be shockwave

molten crane
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W cleave gang waddup

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i move with esdf

charred quest
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How many min targets is cleave with 4pc again? 3?

olive nest
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That hurts my brain to think about

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I ran into a guy for a tier who played like that

molten crane
olive nest
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Goofy as hell ngl

molten crane
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idk i started it way back in WoD when i was playing rogue

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it opens up another column of keybinds basically

olive nest
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Aye if it works for you it’s good right

molten crane
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crazy thing is i switch back to wasd for shooting games lmao

fading sage
#

I use asd for movement…

molten crane
#

so only difference in rotation from s3 to s4 tier, is that we dont prioritize sudden death procs over mortal strike?

lost zodiac
#

Willing to bet I have the weirdest movement here

molten crane
#

in st i mean

opaque citrus
#

no way you're throwing shade as an esdf freak

molten crane
#

alt+8 is a huge stretch lmao

lost zodiac
#

Strafe left and right are both mouse buttons. So is charge and leap

fossil thistle
molten crane
#

no WAY you comfortably press that

fossil thistle
#

dumby demon hunters

tiny burrow
#

trinket/ring best if you dont have leg? right?

#

or just slam Ashkander

magic canopy
#

with every single 2h player basically getting a 2h. realistically it means you will be one of the few people still wanting one

#

so you should easily get any 2h wep if you do mythic or heroic

tiny burrow
#

dont think I will do mythic

pseudo cipher
#

i don't have legendary and im using bsl over shadowflame patch. is using my bullion on the eranog ring still worthwhile

sour forge
#

You still got helm enchant

pseudo cipher
#

how reliable is that to proc the ring?

dire hinge
#

helm enchant procs it

#

lego/shadowflame patch as well, but you mentioned not running those

nova marsh
#

Wait

willow igloo
nova marsh
#

Is the flare from brackenhide actually good this season?

pseudo cipher
smoky kayak
opaque citrus
molten crane
#

the recommended build is the wowhead one i believe

opaque citrus
#

and iirc it's over 3 targets without ss to swap from MS to cleave, over 5 with SS

molten crane
#

BUT the "aoe heavy" double bladestorm build on wowhead does, in fact, NOT take cleave

willow igloo
hazy flower
#

Even with ~60% in m+

tepid prawn
#

are we breaking old 4 set to 2p2p or wait til new 4?

eager solstice
#

how much str should you usually gain from test of might

hazy flower
#

Depends on a dungeon though u can have much better if you play correctly and have reliable healer

molten crane
#

my sims were telling me to break old 4 set for 2/2 for a 5k increase

smoky kayak
molten crane
#

but i immediately got new 4pc and its a huge diff

fossil thistle
#

@tiny burrow Invite DK/Ret/Warriors who have legendary and just mooch their drops.

magic snow
#

should I get 4 piece tier in my vault or heroic eranog ring

gilded prawn
#

if i have a 522 wep an still farming for fryak leggo should i just send bullion on ring/trinket?

fossil thistle
#

@gilded prawn Kill fyrakk, and find out

fossil thistle
#

If you get legs and dairy, can upgrade it . If not, bullion something this week, and legs and dairy kills for next 2 weeks

eager solstice
#

how much str should i roughly have from test of might if i play the window right

hazy flower
#

You dont pay attention to it

#

But 25-30% is rough avg

eager solstice
#

thanks clears it up

hazy flower
#

30% is rather high end though

eager solstice
#

thats exactly what iw as getting around, usually 29, outside of execute phase

hazy flower
#

Pre execute, obviously

eager solstice
#

and wasnt sure if it was that important

hazy flower
#

Nah

magic canopy
#

kinda wild its been almost 5 hours

eager solstice
#

been ages since i played arms

magic canopy
#

and legos still cant be upgraded

hazy flower
#

Dont pay attention to it

eager solstice
#

so kinda rusty on all the niche of it

magic canopy
#

wonder what the issue is

fresh river
#

Hello! Should i tier my shoulders or Hands and what is the difference i see people doing a mix of both ????

#

PvP arms

nova marsh
#

Sim

#

The difference is sub stats.

sour forge
#

Ask PvP people

nova marsh
#

That too, we're all pve andies here

hazy flower
#

Iirc vers>haste for pvp

#

So opt for max of those stats

#

But ask there anyways for any questions regarding pvp

fresh river
#

Thanks guys

verbal marten
glossy hill
#

i can not get this arms rotation down

willow igloo
smoky kayak
#

oh yeah the FAQ is in the process of being replaced - just use the actual guides for the time being

wooden knot
smoky kayak
#

it probably just should have been zeroed out to avoid confusion

smoky kayak
silk spade
opaque citrus
#

nah thats shift-5

dusty venture
#

are cleave training dummies a good test for aoe damage to compare to the target dummy sim on raidbots
also am i missing some macros or something this feels weird to look at

smoky kayak
#

In case yall didn't notice, there's a new #updates-midnight channel for Dragonflight/Season 4 specific stuff, just like the one for The War Within Alpha

Going forward, it will be the spot for more day-to-date updates for Warriors, like

  • major news - not WH bot spam, just particularly important things like "hey, the legendary upgrade is bugged!"
  • major APL updates - not going to post every last thing, but things that majorly affects rotations/talents/decision making will get an update
  • editorials & blueposts - again, the ones specific or important to Warriors

The intent is to largely replace pins with a more visible indicator of new information for things that are important at the time but naturally lose importance over the course of a season/patch/expansion - if you don't mute it, the channel should light up whenever there's a new post, or you can hit the follow button for more obvious alerts. There's also another very minor secret feature hidden within for yall to discover.

Pins will still be used for more permanent notices that we don't want to get lost after a few updates, but shouldn't be as saturated by short-term information anymore (obviously we'll play this by ear, and feel free to leave your own feedback as time goes on)

molten crane
#

so getting a fat 48% off lust pull is higher than i should be getting? xD

#

with ToM window

winged creek
#

Updates channel is a W

silk spade
#

good work archi

nova marsh
#

So question

#

How is the lego upgrade bugged

#

It dosent consume it right

cosmic oasis
nova marsh
#

Oh...whelp I can wait but that sucke

silk spade
proud plover
#

you know what feels great

silk spade
#

you can't upgrade it past a very early point, i forget, i think it's 506

pale jungle
#

502

proud plover
#

playing jugg m+ and beating a equally geeared ret pal

nova marsh
#

Skill issue on their part tbh

weak saffron
#

On execute phase, how bad is using 3 execute into MS instead of 2 execute + 1 Overpower? I commonly have the rage and the CD for it.

proud plover
south beacon
#

Hey guys new to arms read the hybrid guide . At what point does cleave take priority over Ms or overpower in 3-4 target fight

hazy flower
#

3t cleave>ms without sweeping

south beacon
#

Ty

hazy flower
#

5t cleave>ms with sweeping

#

Thats purely damage wise keep in mind

quiet ravine
#

is 2 set worth losing 4 set to have 2 set of both?

quiet ravine
#

ty!

eternal vortex
#

where can i find trinkets recommendations for arms in s4?

south beacon
#

Arms is using 2set s3 and 2 set s4?

eternal vortex
#

i was thinking of using oce and anvil for ST

proud plover
fossil thistle
nova marsh
west tusk
#

Why cant I upgrade my leggo after using bullion item?

halcyon breach
#

It's bugged

proud plover
reef glade
#

dont even know why i would assume cuz arms typically has higher crit it would proc more often or something

eternal vortex
#

do u take icon instead? cuz idk whats good passive trinkets for arms

reef glade
#

icon for aoe yea, and like brand for st

vital mortar
#

where can i find an arms talent tree

reef glade
#

guide in pins

proud plover
#

icon equally is rreat but its power is when all 3 tank/heals/dps have them

vital mortar
eternal vortex
reef glade
#

BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQplIRkQOQiSrkEAAAAQQEiCBUEBkkQSoJRIAhECAAAAAAAAJBJJgQ0QA
this is single target string to import

#

BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQplIRkQOQiWpkkAAAAABRIKkEUEBkISSoJRIABhAAAAAAAAQiWiIgQ0QA
this is for aoe

#

you can make smaller changes on your own just looking at what people do

hazy flower
reef glade
#

like taking shockwave for example

#

one of my friends when he lived in serbia couldnt access wowhead

hazy flower
#

Wtf

vital mortar
reef glade
#

balkans moment

hazy flower
#

I know serbians

#

And ive never heard of that

#

Surprisingly

reef glade
#

i think it was only recent in the last like year or two

vital mortar
#

you want me to ss you xd

reef glade
#

that they did that

hazy flower
#

Im not saying i dont believe u

vital mortar
hazy flower
#

Im just surprised

#

Since I played for months

reef glade
#

yar

#

vpn moment

hazy flower
#

With serbians

#

And they never mentioned it

vital mortar
#

now you know my pain

reef glade
#

maybe icy veins works?

vital mortar
#

as a new player having this much problems

#

this is like icing on the cake

reef glade
#

see if thats different

vital mortar
#

this works

reef glade
#

i guess this is how you breed icyveins enjoyers

#

just dont allow wowhead in their country

#

ez

#

well there ya go

#

can give a gander if u want i assume its most of the same info as on wowhead

#

if not the exact same (both written by the same person) :3

proud plover
vital mortar
#

would you recomend arms or fury for beginners

hazy flower
#

Try both

#

See what plays better for you

#

Neither is „hard”

vital mortar
#

i tried fury got kicked from like 15 raids and dungens bcz im doing dps lower than a tank

hazy flower
#

Fury is more fast paced

vital mortar
#

idk how i dont even ahve that bad gear

hazy flower
#

If youre unsure

proud plover
hazy flower
#

Even after reading a guide

calm trout
#

Silly question but 2 & 2 set equipt is still fine ?

hazy flower
#

Post log

#

And ask for log review

#

It can immensely help you if you listen to the tips

vital mortar
#

how do i post a log

proud plover
hazy flower
#

Have you killed any bosses in raid

vital mortar
#

i have yes

#

on raid finder only ofc

hazy flower
#

Ah

proper moth
hazy flower
#

Nobody really logs raid finder so you’ll have to log yourself

#

Lemme check if there is a guide on how to start logging

sturdy matrix
#

Is cleave> slam in ST? (if you have cleave talented)

hazy flower
#

Somewhere

#

@vital mortar

#

Follow this

sudden fox
#

Is the vault meant to be showing gear from the other raids lol

hazy flower
#

And enable logging, then upload what you have

#

Make sure the fights are there aka check the log

#

Just remember to give a brief rundown, what spec your name in raid or something you specifically struggle with (if your dps is lower than tanks its probably more than 1 issue so mostly for general improvement I guess)

vital mortar
#

you halped me more in 2 min than youtube in 5 days thank you good sir

hazy flower
#

Tldr how log works is u can find there all your casts breakdown etc so someone with experience can take a look and see what u may have done wrong

vital mortar
#

i will try arms now

hazy flower
#

Yw :]

hollow wave
#

You guys think arms is overall squishy?

hazy flower
#

No

magic canopy
#

not really

molten crane
#

this multitarget is whack compared to last season lol

hazy flower
#

Its not the tankiest spec but it is tanky

magic canopy
#

fury was just disgusting last tier because they spemmed bloodthirst

hazy flower
#

And pretty damn good against oneshots

#

Just requires reactive gameplay

rapid bronze
#

You have a 20% DR on demand with no cooldown in high damage events

#

It’s pretty pog

hazy flower
#

15%

hollow wave
vapid raptor
#

anyone for the season 1 tier WA so i can track stacks:) or is in in this channel somewhere

sour forge
#

Plus spell reflect is poggers

#

Stacks of what

vapid raptor
#

dont we wait until full stacks to BT?

#

or am i remembering wrong from s1

winged creek
#

that's S2 fury

vapid raptor
#

o shit

#

haah

winged creek
#

lmaoo

sour forge
#

Fury has a pin to a wa

hazy flower
vapid raptor
#

thanks lads coming back

hazy flower
#

For oneshots can prestack IP for 200k shield (that was in s3 btw it’ll be more in s4 due to higher ap + higher health pool)

distant vector
#

legs off piece?

nova marsh
#

So thing I don't get

#

Why would a random cloak outsim 2/2

#

when it's also vs a shadowflame patch

#

...

#

Ya know it might help if I didn't for some reason do dungeon slice

#

So is chaos grapple a sim trap?

zenith warren
#

where are na vault pics at?

quasi torrent
west wasp
#

What should i buy first for arms warrior bis?

nova marsh
#

techincally the lego upgrade

west wasp
#

btw i use iceyveins is that a good site for bis armor

nova marsh
#

If you don't have it, aim for trinkets like Incarante icon

#

All that matters from bis is trinkets tbh

#

Evreything else is more or less down to sims

gray steeple
nova marsh
#

Also, do note that the upgrade is currently bugged

gray steeple
#

Fire rings bigly

nova marsh
west wasp
#

where do i buy the fire ring?

nova marsh
#

Vault vendor

west wasp
#

In the parting glass or where the vault vault is?

cold elbow
#

Augury still good or we pass on it now? For other better options? As a mostly M+ runner

gray steeple
robust ridge
#

As Arms Augury isn't that great; there's a lot better options, particularly with the Bullion vendor

nova marsh
gray steeple
cursive steeple
#

any Mutated Magmammoth Scale users?

nova marsh
#

I'm pretty sure that's trash

cursive steeple
#

im simming and its simming higher than OCE

hazy flower
#

Are you simming with all the buffs

robust ridge
#

I'd hazard a guess you're doing something funky with your sim

hazy flower
#
  • on similar ilv
gray steeple
nova marsh
#

I have ruby and it kinda slaps ngl

cursive steeple
#

same i lvl 522 (heroic OCE) vs 522 mutated magmmoth scale (mythic track, so it could be more)

robust ridge
#

Probably just link your sim tbh

nova marsh
#

Yeah, like I managed to get a random cloak to outsim evreything lol

hazy flower
#

I am pretty sure youre simming without all the buffs which are a major part of that trinket

weak saffron
#

Is there any reason to stack haste as much as possible? Like MS CD gets reduced enough for only 2 gcds or maybe more ticks from a certain dot?

#

Or it is just the best stat.

cursive steeple
#

yeah OCE is better with all the buffs, false alarm, but for keys i wont have all the buffs

hazy flower
#

40/42% is pretty much what sim aims for

hazy flower
west wasp
#

What does this mean in percentages for stat weights if its not a bother?

hazy flower
#

Dont bother with stat weights

west wasp
#

what stat percentages should be on arms warrior if you have the time

cursive steeple
#

wonder how many OCE havers are out there already

gray steeple
hazy flower
west wasp
#

Ok thank you friend ❤️

hazy flower
#

yw

gray steeple
# west wasp Ok thank you friend ❤️

just remember that everyone's gear differs so any % will be different, aside from general gearing. That's why everyone says to sim yourself rather than chasing arbitrary numbers.

ocean pond
gilded turret
#

Is it ever worth using 3x Execute -> MS in execute phase?

dire hinge
#

if you can afford it yes

gilded turret
#

According to my calcs it does less dps than 2x Execute + 1x Overpower -> MS, but it eats rage so faster CS

outer holly
#

My new goal this season is to farm #1 parses in LFR with mythic grieftorch

cloud dawn
#

is it worth swapping to 2/4 tier this season or waiting for 4/4

gilded turret
nova marsh
#

It's just straight up more damage

#

Fully stacked juggie exe does more damage then OP

#

now yeah, the MS might do less damage

nova marsh
robust ridge
#

When stream @ocean pond, there hasn't been enough Xan shaming lately

gilded turret
#

According to my math, the OP is worth more dmg than the 3rd execute because of the MS buff. But the fact that higher rage usage leads to better CS uptime makes it complicated

fossil thistle
gilded turret
#

This is the result I got

hazy flower
#

With constant exe spam rage usage in exe also gives you longer cs + tom overlaps

#

Which is where you do your biggest damage

#

Since its like 40-50% str + 30% dam amp from cs

gray steeple
charred quest
#

with new 4pc, is cleave only used on 3+ targets?

fossil thistle
#

@charred quest yes

vapid raptor
#

o rele lol i was not doing that

charred quest
nova marsh
#

because if it's just BASE execute, then yes you're right

nova marsh
#

In addition, using 2x ops just eats up GCDs

gilded turret
pallid jungle
#

why its torc of past time better than elemental lariat

nova marsh
#

Are you also accounting for exe exe op op clipping a GCD into Ms's CD?

#

Loosing casts of MS likely as well

gray steeple
#

wear a belt if your MSes are loose

nova marsh
#

If so, why even make that row lol

gilded turret
#

I calculated everything per GCD, I didnt consider MS CD at all

nova marsh
#

That's the issue

#

You WILL clip MS's GCD

gilded turret
#

Because I wasnt looking at a variation where MS would be used before it comes off CD

nova marsh
#

becasue on typical haste (i'm running about 35%, I'm just gonna use that as baseline) MS's CD is not long enough for 4 gcds, thus wasting casts

dire hinge
#

bear in mind it's not just* CS reduction, it's ToM fuel

nova marsh
#

That too

#

You also aren't accounting for higher tom values from the third exe

hazy flower
#

The shorter the cs cd

dire hinge
#

yeah that'st he first half of the sentence

hazy flower
#

The sooner you get it in tom window

nova marsh
#

Yeah like there's just a lot not taken into account aside from raw damage here

dire hinge
#

ah i was missing a word, fixed

gilded turret
#

Doesnt MS CD scale with haste?

nova marsh
#

yes

hazy flower
#

Gcd does also

nova marsh
#

that too

gilded turret
#

My GCD is 1.1 sec and my MS CD is 4.4

#

So MS CD should always be 4 GCDs right?

proud plover
#

haste reeduced the cd of ms tho

dire hinge
#

MS is up every 4th GCD during execute yeah

nova marsh
#

In my experience it's ALWAYS 3

#

Well, yeah 4th GCD

dire hinge
#

MS -> 3 Spells -> MS

nova marsh
#

But always 3 spells before MS

gilded turret
#

Yeah so then my math should be correct

hazy flower
#

You didnt account for first ms

nova marsh
#

but again, does not take into account tom or am

hazy flower
#

Ms (first gcd)

#

Then 3 gcds

gilded turret
#

But as we said, ToM and CS makes the raw damage not accurate

hazy flower
#

Then ms

#

Thats 4

nova marsh
#

Then wouldn't that make your math not accurate?

halcyon breach
#

I feel like you're trying to solve a puzzle that's already been figured out by sims, testing the exact thing you're trying to napkin math now

dire hinge
#

lots of talk of math, but the TLDR is that you want to always end Execute if have 40 rage, and OP if you have under 40 rage, then MS every 4th gcd

gilded turret
#

Well its accurate, but not considering all the variables

dire hinge
#

yeah dont trust napkin math

glacial moat
#

bros, should i just quit right now? i went through half of a normal vault in defensive stance without noticing

hazy flower
proud plover
nova marsh
gilded turret
gilded turret
glacial moat
proud plover
#

4.2 fom base haste

hybrid sinew
#

i mean, as a practical matter, you go EXE EXE OP MS for hte most part, because if you dont the 3rd EXE will be under 40 rage, not always, but pretty often, and your'e supposed to wait for 40 rage to exe anyways

dire hinge
#

yeh, dance back and forth between em

#

it'a easy to overthink things

proud plover
hybrid sinew
#

yeah, maybe its kinda every other one

dire hinge
#

more like: turn brain off "do i have 40 rage: Execute, no? Overpower"

hybrid sinew
#

i was just reading the discussion earlier, and i was like, if you just kinda follow the apl it all kinda works iteself out

tribal sedge
#

Do we like Grieftorch for arms? I got that or the the ring seal of filial both heroic?

proud plover
#

or could be exe op exe

hybrid sinew
#

i guess the only thing is if you have to wait on the MS if you are out or rage, at which point you'd OP anyways, but at that point you were maybe better off going EXE EXE OP MS anyawys

#

since now you are minus one GCD that could have been an EXE or a MS

proud plover
proud plover
hybrid sinew
#

yeah, i've def noticed me going EXE OP EXE as well

#

i mean if you hit 3 executes in a row its not inconvciable you dont have the rage for a MS

dreamy egret
#

run your own key it will fill up fast

nova marsh
#

See

#

Your problem is you got uldaman

dreamy egret
#

people still need it for IO

fervent stratus
#

wrong class wrong key. truely unfortunate

nova marsh
#

If you aren't a meta class are you even playing wow?

proper moth
#

Tru

dull siren
#

Good week to end on 4 set's and 510+ on all my warriors

#

Surely I get a good vault on all

dreamy egret
#

I want my 2nd half of spark to drop

#

so I can craft 2nd piece to 525

proud plover
#

finally got 2pc and want to mess about in a low keey with bstorm build and csnt find a goup lol

nova marsh
#

Wait till next week

dull siren
#

@hazy flower

#

Are u breaking 300k yet

nova marsh
proud plover
dreamy egret
nova marsh
hazy flower
#

I probably am not breaking 280k

gray steeple
dreamy egret
nova marsh
#

Yes

hazy flower
#

Since I played 2 days in s4

nova marsh
#

We always do

dull siren
proper moth
#

Devoker is busted

hazy flower
nova marsh
#

They almost always give us a full spark first week of a season

dull siren
#

the number is kinda huge on my main warrior

hazy flower
#

Like 345 eh

#

Fuck me

hazy flower
#

Prob 365 with lego

dull siren
#

I can check

hazy flower
#

By the time im back home on thursday

#

Youll sim 100k more than me

#

Love

hazy flower
#

Yep

dull siren
#

probs need some stat changes

fossil thistle
dull siren
#

hopefully the lego stuff is fixed until tomorrow

#

@magic canopy taking a huge L

#

and I'm laughing

rancid sierra
#

any other chads go ring instead of lego?

magic canopy
hazy flower
#

Imagine they dont fucking fix it till monday

dull siren
#

What's chad about gimping yourself

gray steeple
hazy flower
#

Because hard issue

magic canopy
#

raid in 30 wont have it

hazy flower
#

They said its gonna take time

magic canopy
#

big cronge

dull siren
#

LMAO

hazy flower
#

To fix it

civic isle
hazy flower
#

Pepega

dull siren
#

@magic canopy Imagine missing 50k raid dps

#

cus of a bug

magic canopy
proper moth
#

Better get 2 bullions in compensation if it takes a week

noble pumice
gray steeple
#

I just hope the bug isn't fixed until Thursday so EU deals with it as well.

nova marsh
#

I mean I work through my raid anyways so guess who has to do LFR keks

proper moth
#

My warrior is safe my evoker is stuck

dull siren
magic canopy
#

MAKE HAMBURGER COUNTRY

gray steeple
fossil thistle
#

BK good

#

chicken fries

#

sheeeesh

molten crane
#

i have a question about AoE prio

#

the wowhead multi target prio list says to cast cleave with martial prowess as the number 6 prio

#

is that exclusively with 2 stacks or is 1 fine?

glossy hill
#

still havnt fix this yet

molten crane
#

ah ok so it's still being updated

full merlin
#

Yo guys, I crafted primal molten vambraces with shadowflame at 525 last week on impulse. Everyone says vers wrists. Am I cooked?

molten crane
#

just slightly not bis is all

dire hinge
#

nah that's fine, just a bit less survivability

molten crane
#

the verst wrists are just fat

full merlin
#

thanks boys

hollow axle
#

Is there a trigger for EB procs?

nimble basin
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some time to fix lol, what. surely it's not that complicated.

maxxed flightstones, will need to spend some tomorrow, and we have no idea if we should spend our crests now.

some time? a week? a few days? blizzard as insightful as ever.

nova marsh
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And rend ticks with s3 4pc