i have a +2 key
#arms
fringe moon
I’m glad I got my full vault done for the week.
gaunt owl
so i'm covered on that side
fringe moon
Pugging is too crazy atm
Every tank trying to do the platform skip when it’s not even necessary yet.
opaque citrus
No the curve is a cliff
I have 10s timed and can’t get into 5s
10 AV is literally giga easy if you live the first and last boss
none of the trash does anything
hybrid sinew
speaking off, for the last boss is it even necessary to to tank him by the sides anymore? I've had issues w/ the hardened pillar spawning by the side of the cave and it being blocked by the spirals of death
civic isle
😂 real and true.
nova marsh
+Wow
gray valley
speaking off, for the last boss is it even necessary to to tank him by the sides...
Been having good success with having the tank tanking near edges of room but moving further if orbs are near and we're close to health threshold (holding dmg a bit if necessary to move as timer is free atm)
nova marsh
180k paladins?
Bro at least that's classifiable as getting somewhere
I have a friend who no matters what he plays in what gear they struggle to hit 100k
and aren't dead
fossil thistle
Brudderrrr
nova marsh
Secretly I'm glad they quit LOL
fossil thistle
All the raiders in my guild, I’ll level their class and spec and do the same DPS with 10 less item level
fringe moon
speaking off, for the last boss is it even necessary to to tank him by the sides...
On the last boss you literally just tank him on the side and then when he spawns the blobs, you drag him away around the edge. When near the crystal spawn %, hold dps if you’re going to get a knockback soon. Let the knockback go off first and then push for crystals. Kill the big crystal shield first and you’re good to go.
fossil thistle
Secretly I'm glad they quit LOL
I’ve had some like that. I enjoy their company but man.. listen to me and you’ll get better 😂
nova marsh
yeah like they're a good friend
but holy shit their damage is just awful
it feels bad when I, a pretty mid player, am literally the carry
fossil thistle
The effort required to play any spec to 70% capability is basically having motivation to watch a 5m quick guide 🤣
nova marsh
bro what amazes me is they do that
They do the research
And still like never break 200k
Like it's not just ignorance, it's in part gear....but like they're 460 not even doing a fraction of what I could do in the same gear. Like....wtf
fucking christ I forgot brackenhide
deaths to lego so far: 1
LOL
outer holly
I am still a leggo scrub, I have eaten 3 frontals in a single day not realizing where it was gonna launch me
nova marsh
I almost died on the spider boss in vault today
outer holly
Enjoying the 3 days of peace with a random 522 nelth weapon
nova marsh
because I forgot about the leap and was like "FUCK"
dire hinge
deaths to lego so far: 1
Had this in HoI, where that blue roaming circle creeped out from under the boss
outer holly
dude it puts you like a millimeter from the edge EVERY TIME
dire hinge
So nerve wracking
nova marsh
I died to an aoe in brackenhide
sinful oasis
for arms do you roar during CS window or with TOM buff?
nova marsh
Dosen't matter. The difference is very minor
worldly kernel
4 piece next week got axe from raz life is good
nova marsh
4 piece next week got axe from raz life is good
Claymore
have you made a return to cursed builds
smoky kayak
for arms do you roar during CS window or with TOM buff?
Just send it on cd, should typically align close to CS regardless
sinful oasis
Just send it on cd, should typically align close to CS regardless
thank you
what is the aoe priority with sweeping strikes without cds? icy veins and wowhead guide have different target numbers for skills
olive nest
nova marsh
Tbh I've seen worse then current arms
olive nest
wod arms?
worldly kernel
Hmmmm…… it can make a comeback but I’m afraid that they will be “viable” will explore my options
nova marsh
Just use spear as arms 
outer holly
Were you the one doing S&B Arms the other season?
I loved seeing those details reports
nova marsh
If he wasn't I'd be offended
Claymore has made the most cursed builds known to man....and season 4 is the perfect time to test them ngl
dire hinge
ah could be, PVP is a black hole to me
olive nest
yeah piercing howl, fear, SB and shockwave that's required for pvp
outer holly
Speaking of S4, are we finally done with the 4+ target OP spam rotation? Or is DN still beating the tier set?
olive nest
also intervene
dire hinge
Speaking of S4, are we finally done with the 4+ target OP spam rotation? Or is D...
OP is still our largest overall source of damage in keys most of the time, and it resets Cleave, so it's still going to be a very high priority to spam it
outer holly
Cool, thought as much, honestly didn't know how much I'd appreciate these cleave builds, weaves in to rotations far easier than I imagined
dire hinge
granted, I dont have 4 piece yet, but even here OP is my top damage (if you add DN and OP together)
v. strong
smoky kayak
PvP is cursed, it’s true
outer holly
I think on average I'm still needing work on rotation in m+, though it's obviously highly dependent on the tank most of the time for gathering, but OP was doing like 18% of my overall and wasn't sure if that was a good thing or not lol
dire hinge
makes a lot more sense with the PVP context, it was in a dungeon and i was just like, "whaaaat is happening here"
worldly kernel
Not bad but we can make it worse 
dire hinge
that's the spirit
charred brook
Is it crazy to wish each spec had its own log review channel
Every time I be hoping to see some arms tips it’s always fury..
outer holly
Most reviews can be done with a macro, you see the same mistakes over and over
swift niche
Are you guys using the wowhead guide or do you prefer the icy veins one?
smoky kayak
Is it crazy to wish each spec had its own log review channel
It’s gonna be cleaned up pretty soon
smoky kayak
Are you guys using the wowhead guide or do you prefer the icy veins one?
They should be mostly interchangeable, minor and cosmetic differences aside
outer holly
The nice thing about using the wowhead guide is if I disagree with something Archi can just tell me why I'm wrong
charred brook
My favorite guides tbh are ShirlyTheBandit on YouTube
But he hasn’t made one for s4 yet
That guy is goated
smoky kayak
The nice thing about using the wowhead guide is if I disagree with something Arc...
Applies to both tbh 😂
dire hinge
wowhead is archi in a baseball cap
icyveins is archi in a different baseball cap
nova marsh
na, he puts a cowboy hat on for icyveins
sinful oasis
Cause it depends on the number of targets!
but one site says mortal strike, op and execute from 1-5 targets and the other says 1-4, which one is it?
lost zodiac
i'm using Afenar's WAs and I can't get executioner's precision to show. Anyone have any ideas?
worldly kernel
you can probably find a separate one to just put somewhere on the screen
lost zodiac
you can probably find a separate one to just put somewhere on the screen
do you have one you like?
worldly kernel
i dont personally track it i just find my own
like I mean find weakauras for stuff that I track
errant jackal
Is there a way to sim and see if its worth catalyzing for a 2pc?
reef glade
just track it in your head 
worldly kernel
exactly
errant jackal
I dont want to catalyze it if it doesn't sim right
worldly kernel
i really only track what needs to be tracked so im not overcluttering my UI and ginving myself information overload
reef glade
Is there a way to sim and see if its worth catalyzing for a 2pc?
should be a dropdown on the item you want to catalyze says like "convert to catalyst item"
zenith warren
3rd boss in halls does insane rot dmg on 10
grand idol
Oh yes
lost zodiac
i dont personally track it i just find my own
I fixed it. the unit type was set to player instead of target
so it was looking for the debuff on me
smoky kayak
but one site says mortal strike, op and execute from 1-5 targets and the other s...
I think you're misreading "up to four" and "less than 5" which are both the same range
rare kite
I fixed it. the unit type was set to player instead of target
ye EP should just be a buff, it being a debuff is pretty stupid imo
woven mortar
Hey guys! anyone knows hom much of a dps loss is not having the lego? I'm kinda short on gold
smoky kayak
ye EP should just be a buff, it being a debuff is pretty stupid imo
right or wrong, its to limit funneling and cleaving
dire hinge
Hey guys! anyone knows hom much of a dps loss is not having the lego? I'm kinda ...
around 6%, but if you dont have the gold non-lego weapons at the highest ilvl are perfectly fine in the meantime
do the best with what you have 💪
reef birch
I have a weird question: does anyone know of a weakaura that reminds you to spell reflect before bosses with a reflectable "instant cast on random target" happen? Like the third boss in uldaman or tott
dire hinge
i believe there's a weakaura that puts boss's next abilities attached to their nameplate and you have to watch those, since they aren't trackable in BigWigs/DBM as "timers"
i don't have it on hand, unfortunately
rare kite
right or wrong, its to limit funneling and cleaving
Ye I figured, still think it's stupid. Some funnel is fun
smoky kayak
Think most people would say more dam is always more fun 😛
limpid current
just curious as i'm seeing people here mentioning upgrading the ras weapon. do the ras secondary stats sim higher (for your respective characters) here or is it because it just happened to be the only weapon that dropped on the first week here?
magic canopy
I have a weird question: does anyone know of a weakaura that reminds you to spel...
Theres a Weak aura that lets you know when the spell is available
but alot of the times spell queing will be what decides what is cast when
so theres a def knowledeg chack on those things, you can also if you use it check your bigwigs settings and have reflectable things normally cast on the tank also shown
like conductive strike on last boss nokkud
sour forge
just curious as i'm seeing people here mentioning upgrading the ras weapon. do t...
Probably just because it dropped
Weps are seeming to outsim leggo around 515 iirc
magic canopy
ive have 5 weps drops so far
sour forge
Obv there’s gonna be variance depending on your stats
Dude same
The season I’m not going fury
magic canopy
i just want the fucking nokkud trinket
sour forge
I want any trink
magic canopy
ive got the fucking puzzle box and raid horn
sour forge
Puzzle is good though
magic canopy
fuck the puzzy b
rare kite
i just want the fucking nokkud trinket
in s1 i legit never saw that trinket drop, not even for other people
magic canopy
hated it in S1 i hate it now
neon jasper
what tier set did arms get for s4?
rare kite
what tier set did arms get for s4?
s1, the best tierset
rare kite
do we ever press rend during st?
technically it is a small gain doing so in the opener but alot of people cba(including me)
reef birch
what tier set did arms get for s4?
the best
neon jasper
lost tangle
is tclap > slam during cs window for tom?
dire hinge
no, but also the difference between Tclap an Slam is minimal so you can just Tclap and ignore slam entirely if you wanted to
white pivot
in m+ do we bladestorm during smash or not worth
and/or is there a specific opener order somewhere? didnt see on wowhead
dire hinge
in aoe absolutely (WB->BS), but during boss fights you lead with BS first and use the huricane window for your opener
white pivot
aight dope thats what I've been doing but just wanted to double check
proud lintel
this breakdown is correct right? spells over bleeds?
want to know what i can improve, i geuss more overpowers ? cleaves?
robust ridge
No one can answer that my dude; a snip of a details meter with no context can't be analysed
robust ridge
I mean you could provide a brief description, that'd help; but yeh
proud lintel
got a couple PIs from the shadow priest, did some huge giga aoe pulls, not having the log really sucks in hindsight
either way arms is feeling great. loving it so far only up from here with leggo next week 🆙
still fox
is this the play with new tier set? or going more ST with Exe?
reef birch
reaping swings -> executioner precision
dire hinge
is this the play with new tier set? or going more ST with Exe?
also pick up Massacre if you're going to pick Executioner's Precision (as Zlia mentioned)
(can swap utilities around, like Fueled by Violence vs Ignore Pain, etc)
reef birch
i like ignore pain better because it helps keep a healthy buffer for BSL embelish
which im using
dire hinge
for sure, it helps
still fox
and full aoe is double bladestorm and mbg?
dire hinge
and full aoe is double bladestorm and mbg?
nah, dont bother
sour forge
That’s a trap imo. Too much st loss
still fox
kk ❤️
sour forge
You could absolutely pad with it. But it tanks your prio dmg
dire hinge
the AoE gain that we get comes at the cost of a tremendous amount of single target, for context
vs running the build above (with Warlord's Torment in the Class tree) gets us very competitive Aoe still, while maintaining our single target / priority damage
reef birch
slapping a hurricane'd whirlwind with mbg feels like such a power move tho
teal fossil
Doing no st is not a power move
dire hinge
who the hell whined about that
it wasn't a great interaction tbf.
Yes it filled a needed niche of "arms needs a pre-execute way to dump rage when we're GCD-bound", but using a defensive as our third highest priority DPS rotation spell is just not the move
within our current design, it fulfilled a purpose, but it was just a patch on a very leaky tire
final dove
what is our off tier peice
sour forge
Using a defensive for offense shouldn’t be a thing imo
Like imagine if they made iv a part of the rotation
dire hinge
what is our off tier peice
legs, but i wouldn't worry about it too much early on since it's just a small secondary gain
haha, yeah if they raised IV's rage cost 
woof
reef birch
Using a defensive for offense shouldn’t be a thing imo
spell reflect begs to differ
crude raft
should i have slam on my bars as arms when i have this season 4? i played only fury as warrior in this season and slam in some cases of built is not even clicked once
wind vault
What is the best source for quick champion track gear? Spamming +2?
sour forge
should i have slam on my bars as arms when i have this season 4? i played only f...
No slam for s4 set
4p I mean
sour forge
What is the best source for quick champion track gear? Spamming +2?
Did you do tw raid? Normal raid
bleak fog
xx runs so far and think I have got 7 weapon and no plategear at all ><
Weekly TW gave weapon aswell
wopps
fading marsh
mb
wind vault
Did you do tw raid? Normal raid
I did, won roll on 1 Item 😂
crude raft
No slam for s4 set
thx
sour forge
I did, won roll on 1 Item 😂
Then ya m0 or higher grants champ track
wind vault
Oh so m0 gives champion gear aswell, good to know, thank You
tidal acorn
in the hybrid m+ build, should thuderous roar be used before or after bladestorm?
warbreaker + avatar -> bladestorm -> thunderous roar (to get the benefit from hurricane)
or
warbreaker + avatar -> thunderous roar -> bladestorm
rare kite
assuming this is the 1 bladestorm build and not the 2 bs build then the 2nd one you said
tidal acorn
ty
do we cleave on 2 targets? if im not reading it wrong the icy veins and wowhead guide are not saying the same thing
rare kite
we do not
latent moss
we do
but we bladestorm first
we bladestorm and then warbreaker on st
cause bladestorm does nothing on st
we do it for hurricane
carmine ginkgo
IP tooltip says up to 281k prevented, but the buff says 102k total prevented.
Which one is it?
carmine ginkgo
how? i see 11 second buff with 11 second CD. Is there another interaction that reduces CD?
opaque lake
12s buff 11s CD
dull siren
You see wrong
carmine ginkgo
I see now, thanks
dull siren
👍
simple wren
hmm that heavy arrow from baelog in uldaman gets me every time. any safe way to avoid dying from it?
silk spade
It's a frontal
simple wren
oh
fathom hollow
Few things, what is execute rotation, when do we use Fyr'alath active, and what rotation do we use if avatar, CS, bladestorm and DR are all off cd
glass hedge
Definitely do
edgy atlas
Dev with fixed set is a whole other beast
We get like 40k dps next week with axe though
big ramp
shy tide
just getting 4 set and lego next reset will make me easily go from 280K ro 350K
silly power gain moment
havent stepped into mythic yet either
fresh spire
making me upset
up4set
quasi torrent
1/1 kings
quasi torrent
just getting 4 set and lego next reset will make me easily go from 280K ro 350K
simming less than 320k this week, L
calm hollow
@boreal quartz soon i wont even crit
boreal quartz
LOL
astral yarrow
<@198808002629730304> Peek this P3 dam
Not even PI. I’ll surely do the same tonight 
quasi torrent
didnt do no splits
edgy atlas
Not even PI. I’ll surely do the same tonight <:bedge:882323848844963860>
I shoulda taken a PI
on god
shy tide
half the raid is gonna be armidrasil geared when we step into mythic
shy tide
kurog didnt even drop a token
quasi torrent
xd
shy tide
slender sonnet
hazy flower
Is this some pad boss
empty jetty
Worth going into cleave build without 2 set or 4 ?
fossil thistle
I don’t think there’s a downside, get used to playing it 🤷🏻♂️
empty jetty
True that, practice makes perfect
fossil thistle
You’ll likely get 2 set next week
Between catalyst, vault, and hitting 2k m+, heroic rasz, or 1600 pvp
rose matrix
Just started learning Arms after playing Fury forever. Why do some people act like Arms isn't twice as hard as Fury?
knotty creek
I switched to arms too and I suck and feel like I do everything wrong
latent moss
64 buttons that do very similar things
tiny burrow
Hey for arms what trinket should I get next week? is Augury good on arms?
latent moss
and so many conditions if u care about optimizing ur damage
fossil thistle
I’ve played arms since 7.1 and I don’t think it’s been too complicated tbh
fossil thistle
Hey for arms what trinket should I get next week? is Augury good on arms?
Fyr’alath upgrade
tiny burrow
Fyr’alath upgrade
dont have weapon sadly 14 kills no drop ):
latent moss
I’ve played arms since 7.1 and I don’t think it’s been too complicated tbh
its convoluted
aoe priority
what button to press when
fossil thistle
dont have weapon sadly 14 kills no drop ):
This week for sure.
tiny burrow
This week for sure.
pray
fossil thistle
what button to press when
It’s kind of a flow chart I feel 😂
If X press Y otherwise O
rose matrix
I wouldn't even consider Arms an easy spec outside of the execute phase
Maybe it is just me but in aoe it is as hard as enhance
tiny burrow
I wouldn't even consider Arms an easy spec outside of the execute phase
much harder than fury but fury is also like braindead lol
rose matrix
I agree but I feel like some people downplay how much harder it is when you ask
fossil thistle
Sweeping overpower cleave WW Tclap mortal strikeee
I guess
Fury just getting natural cleave and keeping st rotation basically regardless of the situation is a bit easier
Not sure if it’s still that way with whirlwind making rampage cleave
gaunt owl
having one button to enable AOE is clearly simple to understand, people get scared with Arms buttons thats all
rose matrix
To be fair the more buttons you use usually leads to a harder spec
fossil thistle
It’s slower apm compared to fury though
You’ll only get carpel tunnel at 37 instead or 32
rose matrix
Fury isn't even fast enough to make it hard tho
Outlaw is the only class I have played that is really quick
latent moss
prot warrior 
gaunt owl
It’s slower apm compared to fury though
yeah its still too close in APM
latent moss
season 4 shadowlands
rose matrix
I think tanks in general have the highest apm
latent moss
and s4 sl was a lot of ogcd abusing
5 ignore pain a second
u went from 0-100 rage in a second
with last stand and that talent that increased rage gen
with banner
fossil thistle
I remember mop prot
fossil thistle
Basically just macro everything together because you’re rage capped 24/7
And 100k AP from vengeance means you always too pumper
fossil thistle
According to most pug normals, prot still competes 💀
gaunt owl
when Execute did dmg
fossil thistle
latent moss
23 casts
iirc it did more than arms execute
it got like a 40% buff
in 10.2.5 or something
9.2.5*
final dove
are we haste crit with new tier set or haste vers.. sim yoself typa thing
wary raft
sim yo self
fossil thistle
All my sims tend to push me towards 32-33% crit 40% haste 25%ish mastery and.. well being all S1 gear im at like 27% vers lol
fossil thistle
Just use augury and might, They might not be the best but at least your stat sheet looks good
boreal quartz
idk i sim idcrc
fossil thistle
calm hollow
<@225261012687912962>
i have 26% without flask
boreal quartz
but its funny
calm hollow
fossil thistle
A measly 22% without aug/might
boreal quartz
ur build doesnt change
winged brook
feels like my arms ST is lacking somehow, hmm
gaunt owl
or maybe gear
fossil thistle
Actually made a set that dropped a ton of vers for dowing low keys w/ guildies
winged brook
probably player issue. I gotta figure out ST
winged brook
i'm a fury player that wants to switch over for a season now that we're going back to s2 fury
so there's some things to learn
frigid lava
Im thinking about going back to s2 fury but no gear for fury yet
I just like the play style of it
what gear are yall crafting first?
gaunt owl
BSL
frigid lava
which part
rose matrix
Do you even need rend on your bars since you use thunderclap to apply it anyways
gaunt owl
you could keep Rend on your bar
finite ginkgo
how is hoof from rlp for keys?
gaunt owl
if you get unlucky rage and have only 30
rose matrix
How do you use bladestorm on st opener? Would you use it before or after avatar
dull siren
@boreal quartz :>
boreal quartz
:>
lucid lotus
Dont we play merciless bonegrinder with tier 4?
boreal quartz
nah
slow saddle
id rather have more st ngl
imma play the same spec as in season 3 just add cleave and remove some rando weak thing i guess
not juggernaut, its dead
boreal quartz
not juggernaut, its dead
tell yenny that
slow saddle
well yenny is in season 3 then ?
😄
its prob not bad, but its pretty hard to keep the stacks up on trash with that much less sd procs ?:D
edgy atlas
@smoky kayak Rate this arms setup
frigid lava
noice
naive sage
its prob not bad, but its pretty hard to keep the stacks up on trash with that m...
Juggernaut was very good in s1
Cleave pretty much carries your aoe
slow saddle
having bladestorm felt like a good thing
maiden stirrup
Did somebody ever test the damage reduction from aoe from this passive, if its actually working? Cuz I remember other classes having some similair passive and it wasnt working for them until a hotfix. Cuz it feels like some AoE attacks (like Absolute Zero in AV) puts me lower than other classes even tho Im taking 10% less. Could also be that those other classes press a bigger cd and Im just pressing Spell Reflect
maiden stirrup
yeah I get that not everything applies to it
passive is the same as avoidance I assume
quasi torrent
passive is the same as avoidance I assume
yes
fiery talon
do we play 2+2 set or stick with 4 set until new 4set? :>
frigid lava
how do u guys play cleave in aoe.
I'm doing opx2 -> cleave
and maintain rend
ms and execute for less than 5 targets.
It feels like im doing something wrong :0
frigid lava
I mean 2x stack if possible... usually just op->cleave->op->cleave
proper garden
would need to see a log to go deeper into it there might be some small minor things maybe
wary raft
I thnk sims have it as first one in aoe with sweep u 2x op-> cleave then alternate bc no of
but also thats if playing reaping, if not just cast on BL resets
fickle lotus
ur build doesnt change
Is there a Link to this Talent Build ?
cloud dawn
anyone playing jugg with the new tier set bonuses
What talents are you swapping around to talent into cleave
halcyon breach
Remove a point from Bloodborne and put it into Cleave
cloud dawn
thank you
sage quail
hey guys, in m+ aoe, do you hold second WB to align with sweep or use on cd
frigid lava
unless mobs are dying off... almonst on cd because anger management
fresh wren
Can anybody share the Puzzle Box / Bladestorm macro? Cant find my old one from S1 and dont remember how it worked 😄
sage quail
unless mobs are dying off... almonst on cd because anger management
makes sense, thanks
sage badge
how do u guys play cleave in aoe.
Depending on your talent choices, you primarily send cleave on cooldown. If you play FoB, then you prioritize 2x OP before cleave assuming you also play collateral damage.
dire hinge
Can anybody share the Puzzle Box / Bladestorm macro? Cant find my old one from S...
Blizzard broke it, so you have to precast Puzzlebox on its own now
sage badge
Actually, this got me thinking. Need to check sims, but it may be preferable to just 2x OP cleave priority all the time. 
nova wigeon
If we dont have legi should we keep dinars for upgrade ? or should i just buy nelta weapon ?
sage badge
Depending on your talent choices, you primarily send cleave on cooldown. If you ...
Piggybacking on this, 2x martial prowess cleave seems to win out in sims vs cleave on cooldown.
sage badge
what tier slot do we want for arms?
Technically all pieces are good for us. Maybe legs being the weakest?
thick kelp
glossy hill
Technically all pieces are good for us. Maybe legs being the weakest?
i'll have 4 piece come tuesday +lego upgrade+craft item
just looking to prep
sage badge
Safe to go with any tier, imo. But drop legs I suppose if you have a better piece.
umbral jolt
Sorry kinda new here. Y'all got any helpful links for a new arms warrior? Im using Hekili, but i feel like im not learning anything.
astral yarrow
Sorry kinda new here. Y'all got any helpful links for a new arms warrior? Im usi...
Wowhead guides is a good place to start
hushed skiff
Just to kind of feed off the 2x cleave stack convo. Any viability for ST MS stacking or just send on CD for rage spending ToS %?
halcyon breach
You don't care about ToM and maximising the bonus from it, the same with Martial Prowess
On ST you simply just MS > SD > OP > WW >TC > Slam essentially
hushed skiff
Gotcha, that's probably my biggest fault then, super obsessive with what ToS% I'm ending up with at the end of the CS window
sage badge
You really don't even have to track ToM. So I wouldn't worry about what str% you get. Unless you're really min/maxing your gcds, which to be fair its quite hectic with tactician resets, and SD procs etc, so your actual strength buff could be small from using non-rage gcds anyway.
spring basalt
does shadow flamepatch work on Back ?
hushed skiff
Excellent advice, thank you!
sage badge
does shadow flamepatch work on Back ?
Yep
midnight mural
Piggybacking on this, 2x martial prowess cleave seems to win out in sims vs clea...
Guess you would start out with an unbuffed cleave first to procc tier?
Pretty nice to go OPx2 into cleave always. So simple
gaunt cove
i have a trinket problem guys i think im using Whisper and puzzle or what you guys think ?
sage badge
Guess you would start out with an unbuffed cleave first to procc tier?
Yeah, get 4p going and then priority pretty much
midnight mural
Smashhhhh
bleak fog
Damn I hate this sign up for a group ingame game.. Sit for hours to try to be lucky and get an invite.
short spear
is arms really that much stronger than fury inside of keys? i really dislike how arms plays
short spear
i might just play fury regardless. to me arms is a crap spec to play
rare kite
is arms really that much stronger than fury inside of keys? i really dislike how...
are you planning on pushing the highest of keys? as in title? if not you just play whatever you want
short spear
if they removed cleave from the game, arms would be bearable
weak saffron
how are people with Mirror 515? What difficulty DI should I do to get it?
silent gazelle
on how many targets should we use SS + MS and SS + aoe skills?
agile dove
i was just about to ask that XD
rare kite
Ms with ss on 1-4 targets. cleave 5 or more
agile dove
is that only with new tier set?
nova marsh
We only run cleave with new tier
rare kite
i wouldn't run cleave without new tier so yeah
silent gazelle
good to know
agile dove
so without new tier, do i just MS with SS at 2 stacks? or just send it at 1 stack
agile dove
yeah i meant op, im guessing if execute i send at 2 still right?
nova marsh
In exe you send at 2x ep yeah
Always some variation of 3x executes and an ms or 2x exes 1x op and ms
simple gull
I love you guys. We zuggin it out here
Fr fr
So glad arms is on top again
Hitting 800s is satisfying
sage badge
Dathea Mythic 50%+ BSL
steep rune
i wouldn't run cleave without new tier so yeah
What would you run instead?
rare kite
1 point bloodborne
chilly wave
fresh wren
Blizzard broke it, so you have to precast Puzzlebox on its own now
ah okay thanks
weak saffron
How do I get Mirror from DI at 515 ilvl?
rare kite
hardmode mythic, there's like some shit you have to do inside the dungeon and no one can die
halcyon breach
You don't need to do it deathless
rare kite
wait rly?
weak saffron
hardmode mythic, there's like some shit you have to do inside the dungeon and no...
And the drop rate is 100%?
halcyon breach
Also 515 is Champ track max upgrade
bleak fog
Na
rare kite
huh, mb. pretty happy to be wrong there
rare kite
And the drop rate is 100%?
ofc not
weak saffron
😐
bleak fog
But its kinda hard I was told
weak saffron
Also 515 is Champ track max upgrade
Yeah, I'm asking because Javentes is using it.
rare kite
think i'd rather just go get puzzlebox ngl
halcyon breach
You don't need to do Hardmode to get a 515 Mirror, however if you're able to, no reason not to do Hardmode
gloomy summit
Only thing you need to not die for is 528 mirror
bleak fog
Any tips on how to get invites in pugs with a dps warrior? :)..
halcyon breach
Keep queuing
bleak fog
~1600 495 ilvl (unlucky start).. and dont get invites for anything above 5
I queue for hours and game for like 30 min ><
rare kite
Only thing you need to not die for is 528 mirror
I knew there was something about not dying
gaunt owl
<a:Wicked:1085311110019829841>
i did 57% 
rare kite
Any tips on how to get invites in pugs with a dps warrior? :)..
do your own key preferably
bleak fog
Yeah dropped it twice from 8 to 6.. Only get sub 500 io and sub 490 ilvl that sign up for it so I don't know
Even tho I look more on S3 then io S4
agile dove
so during a big pull with SS active, do i prio OP over MS? or alternate them?
s3 tier
lone imp
dire hinge
so during a big pull with SS active, do i prio OP over MS? or alternate them?
It depends on target count and whether or not you want to do priority damage into a specific mob.
TLDR for season 3 gear:
- if you’re 4 or less mobs, MS>OP
- for more, OP>MS, except if you have 2x overpower buffs, then you MS to spend those, up to 8 targets
- if you need priority damage into one specific mob, dump your MSs into it
gaunt owl
It depends on target count and whether or not you want to do priority damage int...
pretty sure its up to 4 target now in the APL
if you have Cleave off course
dire hinge
Yeah they said Season 3 gear, I’ll update that comment quick just so nobody glances over it and gets confused if they skim, thanks ppaww
errant jackal
I have 2pc S4 and 2pc S3, is it worth even having slam on my bar?
raven nymph
Imagine not having s4 4pc already.
tiny dock
hey guys, just started playing retail again and have been getting geared up but struggling to get tier items. Should I be copying these builds I'm seeing or is there a build variant I should use before getting my tier? my dps is abyssmal atm at 478 ilvl :(
urban raptor
been out of the game, is still worth to go for the legendary ?
rare kite
ofcourse it is
tiny dock
anyone got a build for 0 tier lmao, should I just run the leveling build off wowhead?
raven nymph
Probably sim the difference between leveling build and the normal build.
errant jackal
I’m about 495 iLvl and simming around 210k ST, does that seem a little low…?
tiny dock
Probably sim the difference between leveling build and the normal build.
will do, thanks boss
been a while ngl, forgot about raidbots
lilac fossil
I’m about 495 iLvl and simming around 210k ST, does that seem a little low…?
you got new 4p?
lilac fossil
with leggo?
errant jackal
No
raven nymph
been a while ngl, forgot about raidbots
Most everyone gonna be referencing s3 or s4 gear so it would be a guess either way.
errant jackal
No Lego STILL 😭
tiny dock
should I just do dungeon slice on raidbots? or is there a better way to sim multi target dps if I'm looking to sim m+
raven nymph
Post the sim? Easier than asking what about this
raven nymph
should I just do dungeon slice on raidbots? or is there a better way to sim mult...
It’s not perfect, but it should be well enough for talents
mint patio
I always just use dungeon slice. Works fine
tiny dock
ty boss
agile dove
It depends on target count and whether or not you want to do priority damage int...
thank you!
split lantern
errant jackal
Yeah they’re definitely not… honestly didn’t know if you’re supposed to Sim with solely the talents you want vs like if you were doing st in say, M+ or something
raven nymph
Ideally need to figure out what you’re trying to figure out. Patches with ST talents would give you a better idea of ST
weak saffron
Should we make sure that the execute buffed by fatality hits during CS window?
gaunt owl
Should we make sure that the execute buffed by fatality hits during CS window?
Not at all, only STR and versatility buff Fatality
if you can snipe it with TOM easily it's good
but going out of your way to do it isnt worth it
weak saffron
Understood, thanks!
sullen oyster
Any variance in raz talents on the spec tree side or just running standard single target build?
sullen oyster
thanks
torn pagoda
can we spell reflect time sink on deios?
gaunt owl
it's gonna deflect the spell
torn pagoda
perfect
gaunt owl
so you dont take dmg but the boss neither
if you do it a little bit preemptivily you should get most of them
steep osprey
im memeing
gaunt owl
wait you finally saw the light again
and stopped being a Diabolist enjoyer
trust in the Demolish power
ok i'm sick of sitting in queue for m+
they should do the same thing as solo shuffle
i missed the early curve of reset day and now it's a pain
steep osprey
same
steep osprey
they should do the same thing as solo shuffle
it would be so much worse with shitters queueing for + 10s lmao
gaunt owl
there is already plenty of shitters that got carried with the curve
hiding behind the guys doing all the CC necessary
they just need to not floorpov on everything
errant jackal
@raven nymph Okay here's the same sim but with ST talents (I think...?) https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9bcFsmFKCDxt422aL8kuRQ
storm lark
If I have 522 wep, i dont have to save wyrm's crests for lego right?
dapper shell
Hey, if i want to skill intervene in juggernaut build, what would be the best pick for a skill point to remove for it?
wooden knot
with a socket
holy shit! gratz
undone venture
Hi arms guys
errant jackal
Hi
undone venture
I have one question I have te standard raid mythic build from wowhead, but this talent " storm of sword" for me it's unnecessary because I forget to use the skill, so u was thinking to get or this one at lvl 2 or "fatality, I'll send photos
you got the screen?
thick kelp
Dont forget to use the skill
thick kelp
with SoS its a high priority button anyway
undone venture
i prefer to get that poin in other place
raw pelican
its huge with after bladestorm with Hurricane
thick kelp
Hurricane is the talent below bladestorm
dire hinge
Hurricane is a passive you get for a few seconds after Bladestorm* ends
thick kelp
gives u strength buff after and during bladestorm cast
raw pelican
SOS after hurricane buff and WB is big deeps
undone venture
what means SoS?
raw pelican
Storm of Swords
raw pelican
Warbreaker
errant jackal
How does cleave slot on?
*slot in
typically doesn't seem useful, even with tier, why not just pop MS?
dire hinge
Cleave is used in multi-target situations with the new tier because it does more damage per button press against multiple targets than MS does
thick kelp
Here is comparison from my Dslice sim, the currently equipped is with SoS talented
dire hinge
10% loss is pretty big
errant jackal
Cleave is used in multi-target situations with the new tier because it does more...
ah got it
undone venture
its bette ms or the cleave button
dire hinge
its bette ms or the cleave button
it depends on how many targets you're fighting
undone venture
its likle the cleave will strike a guy 5 times with the aoe passive skill
xD
if you face 5 enemies
errant jackal
I do so much less dmg compared to sim at the target dummies man, just don't get exactly what I'm missing
thick kelp
raid buffs
dire hinge
likely not enough targets if you're fighting target dummies,
Also you dont take Cleave in single target fights
strange latch
do you need two 2 handed weapons to be able to watermark as arms or just 1?
thick kelp
to watermark
dire hinge
do you need two 2 handed weapons to be able to watermark as arms or just 1?
arms uses one weapon that is 2-handed
strange latch
yes but fury is a thing that's why i ask
does it not count 2 handed weapons?
curious if i'll just be able to straight up upgrade leggo or not
dire hinge
right, fury uses two weapons that are 2-handed.
Could you elaborate on what you mean by "watermark"
errant jackal
likely not enough targets if you're fighting target dummies,
Also you dont take ...
Right, I was just practicing my ST on my M+ (more MT centered build) to see what it looks like
and even with those talnets its still shit lol
thick kelp
Right, I was just practicing my ST on my M+ (more MT centered build) to see what...
Watch if you are simming with raid buffs enabled or not =)
makes big difference
strange latch
right, fury uses two weapons that are 2-handed.
Could you elaborate on what you...
watermarking is upgrading 1 thing to a higher item level or having a higher item level drop for that slot even if you're not going to use it so you can skip out on having to spend the crests on it
errant jackal
obv if I drop cleave and focus ST more (like I would in raids) i do better
dire hinge
Right, I was just practicing my ST on my M+ (more MT centered build) to see what...
ah, you wouldn't use Cleave in ST, since it consumes your Martial Prowess (overpower buff) stacks
errant jackal
ah, you wouldn't use Cleave in ST, since it consumes your Martial Prowess (overp...
right, im specced into it but I'm not even using cleave
when doing st
raw pelican
well if you're doing M+ you will ahve to keep it
dire hinge
right, you spec into it for dungeons, but you dont use it when fighting against bosses in dungeons
errant jackal
Right, and my DPS on ST is still low compared to where my sim is saying I should be
dire hinge
watermarking is upgrading 1 thing to a higher item level or having a higher item...
you can upgrade weapons you have now, the only thing you'll "lose" is flightstones, since you can catch your Legendary weapon up later using only flightstones
errant jackal
Watch if you are simming with raid buffs enabled or not =)
dont see any raid buffs
strange latch
you can upgrade weapons you have now, the only thing you'll "lose" is flightston...
thought so. ty
errant jackal
it could be im just totally butchering the rotation
raw pelican
Keep in mind, simming is an estimate under perfect conditions
dire hinge
Right, and my DPS on ST is still low compared to where my sim is saying I should...
sims assume you have full raid buffs. Try swapping the type of fight you're doing at the bottom to "Target Dummy" instead of "Dungeon Slice" or "Patchwerk"
errant jackal
yeah but it shouldn't be like, 40/50k diff right?
errant jackal
sims assume you have full raid buffs. Try swapping the type of fight you're doin...
got it let me try!
errant jackal
sims assume you have full raid buffs. Try swapping the type of fight you're doin...
Yeah, that is a lot more accurate lol
dire hinge
all good!
errant jackal
Still new and trying to sort all this out! Been a struggle lol
dire hinge
No worries there, if you have any specific questions as you're learning Arms feel free to ask them here, folks are usually more than happy to help point you in the right direction or answer various questions
thick kelp
how tf is critcake 508???
he is a gamer
lucid lotus
Only focusing in M+, what craft items should I use?
fast zodiac
any1 that know how to arms could post screen from details, of how your damage is divided in %? xD
just wanna see whats supposed to be top etc . for m+
thick kelp
do u have s3 or s4 t ier
pallid jungle
i have 2 pieces from s4
rare kite
well i can tell you 1 thing for sure, you are not pressing roar enough
thick kelp
cleave seems to be quite low aswell
tiny dock
is the M+ build from the faq better than double bladestorm?
thick kelp
yes
boreal quartz
Playing cleave + prolly doing prio wrong
pallid jungle
so i shouln't have cleave ?
alpine burrow
did y'all save your catalyst charge or use it right away
alpine burrow
I can get 2pc rn if I use it
but I was thinking of waiting till vault cus its alrdy in 2 days anyways
devout pewter
I've read about it(or seen it in a video) but cant find it anymore: Can we get set through dungeons already or is that a tww change?
frigid flume
tww
devout pewter
ah alright, thanks
olive nest
@sage badge OP owns!
frigid flume
Just making sure I understand the pinned prio right. For M+ is it OCE and Icon, or pick one and then choose Pips/Nelths as second?
I assume OCE + Icon
verbal garden
should I upgrade my 1/6 hc 2h Undertow Tideblade? its a 10k dps increase over old legendary.
Is it worth the flightstone investment until reset?
finite ginkgo
depends if you get back to cap until reset^^
verbal garden
85 flightstones for a dungeon = 23 dungeons. I doubt it ^^
boreal quartz
should I upgrade my 1/6 hc 2h Undertow Tideblade? its a 10k dps increase over ol...
Rip it
Gets ur lego upgrade discounted
verbal garden
half the flightstones and no crests until i reach the upgrade-lvl of the weapon right?
dire hinge
yeah the only thing you "lose" is flightstones, correct
indigo thicket
someone explain 🤔
opaque citrus
bruh
covert jackal
someone explain 🤔
You can stack IP 3 times and gives you the total damage
3 IP's = 320k
covert jackal
3 IP's = 320k
For high end keys it's really important since it allows you to survive 1 shot mechanics
gusty nymph
hello everyone. can someone point me to the macro for BS and fyralath simulteaneous cast please?
boreal quartz
You can just natty it
Need a far ass target tho
With ava proc bs it's easy
But then ur playing shit talents
gusty nymph
ok, i assumed but i wanted to make sure. ty mate
halcyon breach
@edgy atlas bro what is this
Was gonna compare Arms and Fury for broodkeeper and I see this unethical stuff
smh
proper moth
Pink warrior is too good
olive nest
teal fossil
@edgy atlas Explain yourself
frigid flume
Are OCE/Icon still recommended for M+ if you're only pugging since you won't reliably know if you can stack it?
frigid flume
Ty
silk spade
does anyone know if many specs want icon?
raven nymph
Everyone
silk spade
dire hinge
i just want armor please stop giving me trinkets
edgy atlas
<@149525338446102528> bro what is this
I want it known I didn't ask for that, it got slapped on me
smoky kayak
Are OCE/Icon still recommended for M+ if you're only pugging since you won't rel...
I suggested Icon, since although OCE is slightly stronger, Icon is a lot easier to stack - from my understanding most tanks/healers want icon too, so it's at least semi plausible you can fill it out
frigid flume
I suggested Icon, since although OCE is slightly stronger, Icon is a lot easier ...
Thank you, I was thinking I would go Icon and Pips
smoky kayak
but if none of those apply, you could always grab pips or nelths or something
smoky kayak
Thank you, I was thinking I would go Icon and Pips
leaving out puzzle box 
smoky kayak
precast best cast
edgy atlas
@halcyon breach Hey look I made up for it on Raz, 3 ilvls and 6 PIs ain't shit
viscid meteor
once i can im tossing puzzlebox out the window
smoky kayak
<@102464908976730112> Hey look I made up for it on Raz, 3 ilvls and 6 PIs ain't ...
1/5 not bad 
gaunt owl
puzzlebox is so juiced up
smoky kayak
always was
gaunt owl
6 pi
edgy atlas
on god
gaunt owl
yep cursed external
magic canopy
imagine the degeneracy if they DIDNT rework oracle
viscid meteor
lets give everybody a baseline Pi yeppers
gaunt owl
imagine the degeneracy if they DIDNT rework oracle
thank god they backpedaled on this idea
next step is WF to be raid wide or deleted
and its on the shaman back
like Battleshout they use it before raid
magic canopy
whats the over under the new shaman hro talent just gives ele WF
gaunt owl
freaking Tauren got 2 ginormous totem tmog
minor gust
WF needs to be in shaman class tree
silk spade
ppaww spitting frfr
minor gust
And not just enhance
gaunt owl
but have to put a little tiny weeney totem
in DF alpha it was on class tree the WF totem
teal fossil
WF needs to be in shaman class tree
Not only that you need to give the other shamans a selfish reason to press it
I think that’s the hard part
teal fossil
Prefer that
halcyon breach
<@102464908976730112> Hey look I made up for it on Raz, 3 ilvls and 6 PIs ain't ...
Okay gamer I'm sorry for what I said
🫡
minor gust
No warrior gonna need WFT in TWW now
smoky kayak
<@102464908976730112> Hey look I made up for it on Raz, 3 ilvls and 6 PIs ain't ...
I was going to link my entirely ethical, definitely no padding rank 1 sennarth and then saw someone beat it
(plz ignore that R1 Fury is like R30 Arms)
edgy atlas
I was going to link my entirely ethical, definitely no padding rank 1 sennarth a...
I died at 35% on ours 
smoky kayak
my terros went that way
silk spade
<:dracthyr_cry:1002363122448875612> (plz ignore that R1 Fury is like R30 Arms)
raiding later in the week hack
empty sluice
big
empty sluice
dont worry, still 3p andy
smoky kayak
2p over here 😦
hexed saddle
anyone else get 4p and log off for the week
teal fossil
I’m logged off until mop
copper swan
but... dark heart
jolly sapphire
Hey guys, if we upgrade a weapon now, next week we can upgrade fyralath to that same ilvl with only flight stones? Does the track of the other weapon matter?
reef glade
track doesnt matter
first thing yes
upgrade random weap to 522, axe costs no crests of any kind up to 522
just half off on flightstones
jolly sapphire
ty good sir
reef glade
grombust
jolly sapphire
hehe
copper swan
what is your personnal opinion about sark cloak guys
gaunt owl
on some boss its useless as the timing is exactly when you dont want it
reef glade
i mean even if buff doesnt line up with big dmg cooldowns isnt it still more dmg to have more stats vs not having them ever
copper swan
i'd like to go vers wrist and patch cloak playing arms in m+ and prot with guildies
reef glade
imagine its like giga rng whether its worth 200 dps or like 5k dps
but dupus still dupus
reef glade
i'd like to go vers wrist and patch cloak playing arms in m+ and prot with guild...
u can patch some other low value armor too like belt/boots
or if u a nutcase like tmy u can patch a super high stat value armor early season for biggest gain, then eventually it b replaced probably
but 525 pants is like, fat asf strength and secondaries for week 1
copper swan
pants is the only part i got this week 😭
reef glade
well thats just an example cuz he made pants
but i think helm/chest/pants are all the highest stat valued armor slots
gaunt owl
Sark cloak is funny and all that but its gonna make your life harder to get BSL uptime
gaunt owl
problem is everybody thats gonna steal your stats too
smoky kayak
what is your personnal opinion about sark cloak guys
fine for raiding, not so fine for high level M+ where stam matters
knotty creek
what rating do you get the tier piece
finite wasp
anyone know what the most optimal thing to buy with the bullions next week, its upgrading the legendary first right?
halcyon breach
what rating do you get the tier piece
2k
halcyon breach
anyone know what the most optimal thing to buy with the bullions next week, its ...
yes
finite wasp
ok thnx
violet steeple
I really regret my lariat guys, sadness is real
brittle pelican
Sark cloak is funny and all that but its gonna make your life harder to get BSL ...
It also whispers you funny things
knotty creek
Btw I feel like I do no damaage in dungeons at all and idk if im even using correct talents or rotation
violet steeple
Cleave/WB
brittle pelican
Bladestorm
violet steeple
and storm ofc
Oh ok BSL is only 2k > lariat at 525 we good
I'm 2 sockets down already 2 so it'll be super close
obsidian topaz
do we Roaf after bladestorm or before?
Id assume we warbreaker, bladestorm then Roar with hurricane right?
knotty creek
I basically roar thunder clap acatar warbreaker and blade storm
obsidian topaz
you roar before avatar?
errant jackal
I thought you charge, avatar, wb, roar, bladestorm into sos
knotty creek
oh
tiny dock
guys how much do I commission for someone to make me a lariat
frigid flume
I thought you charge, avatar, wb, roar, bladestorm into sos
thats what I do but I know nothing about game
frigid flume
well I tclap before avatar but thats not the point
violet steeple
You roar after bs ends
knotty creek
I do if im lucky 170k dps
errant jackal
You roar after bs ends
really? how come?
frigid flume
so it benefits from Hurricane
errant jackal
Do you wb before bs?
That would proabably make sense you get the buff after it expires, into hurricane/roar/sos
violet steeple
Charge>Clap>Cleave>WB>BS>Roar/Sweep
errant jackal
why clap into cleave, and no avatar?
errant jackal
ah ok
cerulean egret
first normal run
violet steeple
But ye you dont want to waste 2-3 GCDs in ava on the clap/cleave portion
knotty creek
How do we single target with this
strange perch
11 RLP
knotty creek
in m+
violet steeple
Just use MS instead of cleave basically
errant jackal
But ye you dont want to waste 2-3 GCDs in ava on the clap/cleave portion
yea fs that makes sense, ill try it next dungeon the way you're saying and see how i feel
violet steeple
Arms ST is giga faceroll
errant jackal
yeah ST is just MT minus cleave and sweeping strikes
violet steeple
And arms AOE is mad clunky til you get comfortable, it's getting better for me but still odd
empty jetty
rlp 10 <:ratge:890357732543168594>
😦
strange perch
rlp 10 <:ratge:890357732543168594>
no outlaw stealing damage, not the same
errant jackal
Linccstyle what's your ability priority anyways, like assuming you're fighting your third pack, Ava/Roar are down, etc.
Kind of a big question but I'm curious
boreal quartz
Linccstyle what's your ability priority anyways, like assuming you're fighting y...
tc wb ww ss spam op
innit
well and cleave on 2 op buff
violet steeple
Cleave if sweeping and 5+ targets, MS if not, WW>TC for OP procs
Otherwise it's literally the ST rotation of OP into MS or cleave into OP and when you run out it's WW>TC for getting OP procs
errant jackal
Yea though I figure MS>SD>OP>SOS/WW>TC (just for rend)
violet steeple
I find at 8+ targets I use WW on CD though only behind cleave
errant jackal
yeah i usually find the same
frigid flume
how grief is it to play S3 build if I dont want to play Cleave cause many buttons
boreal quartz
I find at 8+ targets I use WW on CD though only behind cleave
ww is higher prio than cleave in aoe in general
violet steeple
Pretty grief our tier is based around MS/Cleave
errant jackal
I would just get used to hitting cleave, you really don't ues it that much
boreal quartz
how grief is it to play S3 build if I dont want to play Cleave cause many button...
costs me 8% in aoe
on 5t 5 min
violet steeple
Wish me luck on puzzlebox, run like 15
errant jackal
you only hit cleave really at 5+
frigid flume
costs me 8% in aoe
pain
frigid flume
I was just rolling 2/2 bloodborne like old shit
too many buttons for my 2 button S3 Fury brain
errant jackal
for M+?
magic canopy
ya
errant jackal
yeah i run pretty much the same
frigid flume
2/2 bloodborne vs SOS?
thick kelp
2/2 bloodborne vs SOS?
30% dps loss
frigid flume
oh I didnt even see you had Fob
magic canopy
yur
basically how it works
is cleave is to spread deep wounds
so you get the bonus damage from your mastery
then Overpower with DN does almost all the work with roar in there
sour forge
too many buttons for my 2 button S3 Fury brain
S3 fury had 4 buttons
errant jackal
im more impressed at the 34.19M from Spell reflect lol
magic canopy
most the time i only send roar with bladestorm
storm lark
If I have 522 wep, i dont have to save wyrm's crests for lego right?
magic canopy
im more impressed at the 34.19M from Spell reflect lol
last boss is a spell reflect bonanza
magic canopy
If I have 522 wep, i dont have to save wyrm's crests for lego right?
correct
errant jackal
last boss is a spell reflect bonanza
Okay LOL, i was like holy SHIT
frigid flume
which dung
slender sonnet
nokhud?
magic canopy
yur
magic canopy
about to run one if you wana see
slender sonnet
hes rough