arms

[dire hinge]

19? 20 weeks?

[molten crane]

i was playing a mage and druid up until like 6 weeks ago lol

rerolled warr for M prog, needed the buff

got leggo and now this

[dire hinge]

very nice, grats on the very lucky early drop!

[molten crane]

tyy

[boreal quartz]

Make ur guild pay

[molten crane]

yee 6-7 weeks seems chill for what some of yallw ent through

[boreal quartz]

Legit

[molten crane]

i might tbhj

[boreal quartz]

Steal from gbank

[boreal quartz]

Simply get it week 3

[molten crane]

i legit

[dire hinge]

haha, i do not endorse stealing from gbank, but honestly yeah if it's for mythic on the team to fill, see if you can get someone to assist

[molten crane]

crafted a 486 weapon

week after got mythic gnarlroot weapon

upgraded it

2 weeks after got leggo

smh

[dire hinge]

solid fury offhand then 😄

[molten crane]

truee

if i knew how/ wanted to play fury

[boreal quartz]

Press bt

@molten crane ur progging fyrakk rn ye?

[molten crane]

KEKW

[boreal quartz]

Depending on where u are a swap could be useful (assuming youd do good dam on fury..)

[molten crane]

nah we're pretty casual honestly

[boreal quartz]

So for prog means next tier?

Or like smolderon

[molten crane]

progging 5/9 both bosses lol

super casual

[boreal quartz]

Progging both

That's interesting

[molten crane]

have swapped a bit ye

[boreal quartz]

I felt like larodar was a tad easier but it didnt matter much

[molten crane]

we're not raiding for the next 2 weeks but figured that would give me time to get leggo quest done, so i can upgrade it asap next season

[boreal quartz]

Very worth

[molten crane]

just got the item like 6 hours ago, banged out all the grindy parts already

got like maybe 2 more superblooms to go

but just trying this first part to break up the monotomy im like

fuck capitalism

so wait can i need an item to sell to some poor bloke if i already have better stuff

obviously this is very douche but

so is blizz

[boreal quartz]

Sell raid boosts

[frigid lava]

I just WQ... and I'm ok

It's like... 2 hours a week for WQ maybe less

That's like 15k a week.

[boreal quartz]

Or do 1 HC boost for 100k in 1.5h

Or win raid gamba and make 200k gold

[frigid lava]

where do ppl get all the gold?

contributing to venezuelan economy?

[steep osprey]

i buy tokens

[frigid lava]

I haven't spent a dollar besides subscription since 2004

[astral yarrow]

Sold legendaries in SL along with boosting, sold Lariat in DF along with boosting 🤷‍♀️

[steep osprey]

i remember that

[molten crane]

only time i had multi million was endgame BFA, selling nightmare thingy runs

150k a pop for 15 minutes of focus wasnt that bad

[steep osprey]

i sold a corruption boe for 6m gold in bfa

[molten crane]

i had so much gold i bought shadowlands for me + a friend with blizzard credit

only played the first raid tier

[steep osprey]

I lost all my gold from that buying mounts/game time/transmog

[molten crane]

then came back in DF broke af in one of the funnest crafting environments i've seen

and got no gold to enjoy it

might just go spam old raids to sell the garbo

[boreal quartz]

Horrible for gold

[frigid lava]

I'd be pretty happy with gold but bots happened

I'm miner/herb

fuck venezuela china shit

[hexed parrot]

Do we get one cata charge in the first week of S4 and another tset token for 2k m+ raiding in S4?

[boreal quartz]

Probably?

[frigid lava]

good god...

even M+ is plagued by pinkmen

im in 4 man paly grp lol

[boreal quartz]

U shoulda seen fyrakk early on

Bout 20 palas

[frigid lava]

that's given

[frigid lava]

Pretty wild, i get freedom everytime entangling comes up

almost annoying lol

[frigid lava]

My friend was a producer at blizzard. he gave me a free yearly subscription once lol

[molten crane]

my SO got a free year sub from her employer too lol

freakin jealous

[frigid lava]

he moved to riot :0

[molten crane]

hmm..... can i cross-realm and cross-faction trade gold via a friend in an instance?

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[boreal quartz]

Ya bonzai

[halcyon breach]

ya phillus

[boreal quartz]

I prefer the term phallus thank you

[frigid lava]

https://tenor.com/view/theo-james-the-gentlemen-eddie-horniman-edward-horniman-guy-ritchie-gif-4977822704019838968

[boreal quartz]

🍆🪺

[latent moss]

if ravager on arms is true

i cant wait to play slayer arms

tbf ravager makes sense

cause colossus

i dont want to be stuck in channels

demolish and bladestorm

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rwUv16w1w8bvk3qoR5BMQu

After Trinket changes currently, Going to have to do some Re-gear most likely to find missing crit.

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kmS7W4MhgXDyyx7ktvs7WS

[gaunt owl]

We ded

[quaint otter]

Just need to have lego rare ring rare back to be worse than rogue right?

[boreal quartz]

-10k augury time

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3j6jo6CNvKAB9TMT4SdQcq
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6zvwer9WhXwJiAZmUsa9Tv
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/61hkPygf8fDsW2RuJLNGie

@boreal quartz

Here you go

[boreal quartz]

Sks dead once again

Never alive but dead

[astral yarrow]

I miss sks man

Give me sks and eb being good

And the talent slots to take them

[quaint otter]

No sks is shit

[astral yarrow]

Old sks was lit

“Old”

[quaint otter]

No its not fun at all

[boreal quartz]

Ur wrong

[astral yarrow]

It banged

[quaint otter]

Shouldve make it like dks talent

[dull siren]

[quaint otter]

That makes all bleeds tick faster

[boreal quartz]

That talent is dogshit

Boring ass uptime andy thing

[quaint otter]

Yeah 20s cd 1-2 target microburst is lit

[boreal quartz]

Correct

[astral yarrow]

When all your dps is backloaded, having something front loaded on demand is pretty cool. I liked having to play around CS and a full Rend for it

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nrZBaC5yf95pF2YKDSR9R4

@astral yarrow @daring heron

It's Reck BS AoE I just haven't changed name cus lazy

but what u think of trinkets

:XDD

[magic canopy]

fragment pepespit

[astral yarrow]

Fragment is fine. It’s just weird

[dull siren]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10g479vXesC382k68gw4akUKeuGUodbDho0yhKK6Eh0w/edit#gid=0

Arms Sims fixed outside of -
Embelishments / Races and Pi and WF

with the recent Trinket Tunings

Drop from https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9a3bzUvPrbNmPZk2eVPtpJ
To 431,5k

👎

[vagrant smelt]

How important is using spell reflect, I have been neglecting it and not sure how much it helps with dps

[boreal quartz]

Best off GCD spell in the videogame

[halcyon breach]

It's very strong when it works for DPS, but outside of that it's also a very strong defensive

[boreal quartz]

Sometimes

[boreal quartz]

Play an ataldazar and reflect yamza wracking pain then consider if that's worth paying attention to

Or a crushing depths in TOTT

[vagrant smelt]

Wow ok, don’t even think it’s bound at the moment then saw a spreadsheet about what you can and can’t reflect

It useful in the raid at all?

[halcyon breach]

In raid it's just a defensive

At least for DPS

Nvm it's just a straight up defensive, nothing at all to reflect even for tanks

Only deflects

[boreal quartz]

Deflecting the star on tindral or the frontal on fyrakk

Is huge

[fresh spire]

To be fair the drop arms got every spec gets though looks like fury dropped fuck all in comparison

[dull siren]

xdd

[fresh spire]

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tJfnmaZBawJyC2WTqs7NwK

[fresh spire]

Dead spec

Send first aid

MEDIC

Need to heavily buff rampage and rb and lower meat cleaver ez fixed

[daring heron]

fury tuning so bad it cant do its damage itself, so stat trinkets are just bad

isnt this what it's like to be ww or dh a lot of the time, just play on hit damage trinkets

[hazy flower]

rogue plays 2 of those

[tardy crag]

Basicly stack vers crit take items that do dmg for u

[hazy flower]

both in m+ and raid

[lone imp]

Or when the soak person on volcoross tries to run over you before the last tick and smokes everyone in their path lol

[astral oasis]

Is there any hope that Blizzard will take pity on the furies?

[boreal quartz]

No

• fuck em

[latent moss]

arms is dead

go next

we wait for tww

[lone imp]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-james-franco-gif-7829182

[gaunt owl]

Goodbye fury

[lone imp]

take it back

[gaunt owl]

Fuck fury

[boreal quartz]

Shut up pinkie

[gaunt owl]

[lone imp]

True

I would rather pink than arms to be honest

[boreal quartz]

L

[lone imp]

Is just more fun to me

[latent moss]

L

[lone imp]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-not-apologize-for-that-ashton-kutcher-saturday-night-live-sorry-not-sorry-never-mind-gif-16165071

[sonic briar]

Is wowhead a good guide for rotation?>

[minor gust]

Can TWW alpha release alrdy with new warrior talent trees so I can want to play retail again instead of blasting SOD

[fresh spire]

Slayer owns

[minor gust]

indeed

[fresh spire]

Man if blizzard cooks

[latent moss]

bro

the cook is done

ravager arms

slayer

in execute phase

[lone imp]

So I assume that we've deduced arms is getting ravager with that blue post yesterday

[ornate eagle]

Yeah nah, it's just a change for fury

[lone imp]

It's hard for me to understand what is happening sometimes when I see posts like that

[tardy crag]

Prot bladestorm when

[quaint otter]

Back in sl

[latent moss]

idk to me it looks like it's either to combine the talents to make it easier for themselves or arms is getting ravager

but fury is keeping ravager i guess?

so if u are playing mountain thane

u will play ravager i suppose

[raven ivy]

@halcyon breach what do I reroll now that warrior is dead

I got a ret at 63

[tardy crag]

The legendary was really funny

Ngl

[exotic kestrel]

theyve confirmed fury gets acces to Bladestorm

[latent moss]

ye ik but im not talking about that

[ornate eagle]

its just a wording change to clarify both spells to fit both arms and fury

[latent moss]

nah ravager is coming to arms

[ornate eagle]

not an implication that arms gets ravager or bladestorm

[latent moss]

!!!!!!

[ornate eagle]

[quaint otter]

Yeah u either deal tank damage or get agro and die

🎰

[latent moss]

bladestorm colossus

is something i wont play

ever

imagine ur opener

is 6 seconds

of channels

and u cant do anything

except rally

[ornate eagle]

people played double BS for most of this xpac

thats 12 seconds of afking

🙂

[latent moss]

i dont understand how

such a boring ass build

[ornate eagle]

it is

[latent moss]

50k st

[naive sage]

Juggernaut colossus

[tardy crag]

Such is life

[halcyon breach]

I heard rogue is kinda decent

[raven ivy]

Yeah no

[rare kite]

Enhance

[lone imp]

Pink man

[gaunt owl]

They probably cry about demolish channeling

But enjoy padding and do no dmg after

[quasi torrent]

@gaunt owl acquire a guild maybe

[gaunt owl]

Im spreading misinformation

[quasi torrent]

yo just like me!

[gaunt owl]

Wanna join my guild ?

They recruit

[quasi torrent]

no

[gaunt owl]

You would have played with friends

Too bad

[quasi torrent]

i hate friends

[daring heron]

how is it on ST tho

i get it's good in aoe cause bs takes a decent amount of time without eating stacks

o its also in the sheet, nice

pbox wins on st by a little, ig it's just preference then

[ornate eagle]

overall is only thing that matters

[fresh spire]

Be interesting if they push some of the reworked stuff before expansion

So they can start to see what's good and bad

[gaunt owl]

Alpha soon

[sharp wyvern]

Soon™️

[tardy crag]

[sharp wyvern]

How am I gonna have time to do alpba the mop thing and retail at the same time

[olive nest]

Overall enjoyer

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hxedyrqCm79ERmddUvhrDV

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2AsDZRULpiHDtZvS7gDc5X

[candid pecan]

💀 basically

fury ST

[crimson charm]

The place where we want to see Fury

[thick kelp]

[unborn canyon]

I can hear that

[latent moss]

@hazy flower ended deios at 310k

in a 21

as arms

[hazy flower]

dead

aug?

[latent moss]

no thats the funny part

lust + pi

embersoul

51% tom

or something

[dull siren]

yap yap

[hazy flower]

I only had 285k in 29

[dull siren]

Cone

mby u should focus on gnarlroot

[latent moss]

cant

[teal fossil]

tmy

[latent moss]

[teal fossil]

you got gold on NA

[dull siren]

@teal fossil no i gave it all

[teal fossil]

i need to log back in for MOP

[dull siren]

to bdg guildies

[teal fossil]

no way jose

[hazy flower]

just take it back or

tmy tax

[teal fossil]

is that like fanum tax

but tmy

[dull siren]

aaxaxaxax

[hazy flower]

yep;

[dull siren]

if u do my dishes i'll buy u a sub

@teal fossil

[teal fossil]

its not dishwashHIM

its dishwas___

[dull siren]

its 2024

[tardy crag]

[latent moss]

true

i agree with wish ronin

[dull siren]

u can be a ___

[latent moss]

roniny

[lone imp]

which means you've had plenty of time to buy a dishwashing machine

[dull siren]

i have 1

im just to lazy to put it in

LMAO

[lone imp]

smh my head

[teal fossil]

canhas do you do catering or restaurant

[dull siren]

I'm very sad

[teal fossil]

i forgot

its catering right

[dull siren]

they removed the realm first

[teal fossil]

so you dont have to wash dishes

[lone imp]

Catering yeah

Oh I definitely have to wash dishes lol

Just not as much as a restaurant

[dull siren]

I'm also such a rat

I think I spend like 1250$ per month

on takeout

[lone imp]

my god lol

[hazy flower]

mf eating like caseoh

[dull siren]

No, I order some steaks n etc

[hazy flower]

1250 is what I spend in like 6 months on food

[teal fossil]

hes actually caseoh wtf

[dull siren]

This was my last order

was in march i've actually been a good boy

[hazy flower]

whats that

585 kr

[dull siren]

like

[lone imp]

kruger?

[dull siren]

60€

[teal fossil]

wtf

[hazy flower]

??

[dull siren]

OMEGALUL

[lone imp]

krona lol idk

[teal fossil]

54 for 2 pizzas?

[dull siren]

Nah

[restive jay]

is there an Arms BiS list for s4?

[dull siren]

It's beef tenderloin and 1 pizza for my friend

[teal fossil]

not yet but youll sim it like you always do

oh its not that bad

beef tenderloin can be expensive

is this delivery

[dull siren]

Ye but avg order is the same

this place owns

[teal fossil]

bros eating american food

no way

[hazy flower]

I guess it's different perspective if you're a student that works 1 day a week

lmao

I would never pay that much on takeout

[dull siren]

If you DM me I can tell you how much I made

working in the mines

@hazy flower

[teal fossil]

what mines

[hazy flower]

crypto mines

[lone imp]

tmy going in on some takeout boi

[hazy flower]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[teal fossil]

tmy so rich wtf

[dull siren]

Aitik Gällivare

[hazy flower]

its big money working in those

but a hard job

[lone imp]

minecraft main

[boreal quartz]

i get many many adds from AU mines hiring

kinda funny ngl

[dull siren]

Idk, I workt in the mines for 1 year then went up to management

for the 4 years I was there after that

then I just left cus u have 0 life

working in the mines

[hazy flower]

yeah makes sense

but now what

youre young

got good shit on resume

[teal fossil]

dang you actually worked in the mines

i thought it was figurative

[hazy flower]

same

[dull siren]

Yeah but to say it in terms you understand @hazy flower

It's like playing Nunu Jungle snowballing down river gettin a early lead and snowballing into mid extending the lead back to botlane snowballing your lead

just never work again

[hazy flower]

I definitely understood

[dull siren]

Buy property and rent it out

[hazy flower]

all that

[dull siren]

aint no way

ur younger than me

and play 0 league

but u play wow

[hazy flower]

I mean

I played a bit of league

till like lvl 28

years ago

[boreal quartz]

loser cuz wow player

[hazy flower]

L

[boreal quartz]

but not loser cuz not league andy

[teal fossil]

thats like saying you play wow because you got to 20 on the free trial

[boreal quartz]

weird spot to be in

[hazy flower]

my old laptop broke

[dull siren]

ur broke

[hazy flower]

I had exams coming n shit

[dull siren]

[boreal quartz]

brokie @hazy flower

[hazy flower]

agreed..

im being slandered on skyhold

[boreal quartz]

man i love telling students they are just an advanced form of jobless

[buoyant axle]

League is love, league is life

[hazy flower]

i dont see lie

[dull siren]

no

i had a lux support today

league is aids

league is problems for mental health

[buoyant axle]

Uh oh

[halcyon breach]

League is worse brainrot and degrades your health more than wow does

Which says a lot

[dull siren]

ur biggest brainrot banezi

[halcyon breach]

🪞

[buoyant axle]

Damn the uno reverse

He fast

[dull siren]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-card-uno-uno-cards-gif-13032597

[hazy flower]

ngl wow is a good game in a sense that u dont rage usually here like

its not the same like in cs or league

[dull siren]

I wasn't allowed to send :reverse: emoji

[buoyant axle]

1 pug night and your done

[hazy flower]

I would legit rage so bad in cs

[halcyon breach]

It's not rage but playing with questionable players for an entire tier can do a lot of damage to you

[buoyant axle]

True

[dull siren]

Dw Pandamonium or w/e

coming up

already have a guild

🤝

clear raids n blast with friends

[buoyant axle]

[boreal quartz]

ur playing the game wrong then

remember its always mistakes of others making you deplete

yell at them

[hazy flower]

na man im past that

[buoyant axle]

Curse em

[hazy flower]

I just grief in sorrow

[dull siren]

Myrt gets ego from HC logs

[hazy flower]

true and real

[buoyant axle]

Thats me

[dull siren]

"guys i padded but im so good"

tindral pov

[quasi torrent]

hc healing logs

[buoyant axle]

And my logs are not even good

[quasi torrent]

nothing else matters tbh

[hazy flower]

havent played wb on tindral

since .0

[dull siren]

🤥

[boreal quartz]

🤥

[halcyon breach]

I wanted to go for mythic healing logs but I get called out by aagaard and crit?

[quasi torrent]

good

[hazy flower]

outside of mythic where we needed burstier dam on roots

so I just went wb iftk

[halcyon breach]

you're just a hater as well anda cba

[boreal quartz]

never

[quasi torrent]

healing logs happen

u dont force then

[halcyon breach]

how about

dn

[hazy flower]

oh

lmao

[quasi torrent]

it's just way too easy to equip rageheart

[hazy flower]

ye its from january

[quasi torrent]

Second wind

[halcyon breach]

It is if you ahve it

[quasi torrent]

press iv on cd

[halcyon breach]

[quasi torrent]

noob

[halcyon breach]

I've been auguryless the entire patch

[hazy flower]

wait holy fuck @boreal quartz

[halcyon breach]

aint no way I go prot lootspec if I can get aug

[hazy flower]

I'm such a padder

I'm looking at my tindral logs

[dull siren]

🤥

[hazy flower]

top 3 in this patch have wb

[quasi torrent]

u dont have 496 augury?

??

[halcyon breach]

bro

[dull siren]

banezi hasn't even done HC

man

[quasi torrent]

xddd

[halcyon breach]

I've had 1 (one)uno)) vault after I got CE

with 1 slot

do you really think

[boreal quartz]

yes

[halcyon breach]

I'm able to loot augury

[boreal quartz]

good player gets it

[halcyon breach]

yes

and I'm evidently not good

[boreal quartz]

thus yellow

[rare kite]

Have you tried looting it benzai

[boreal quartz]

you know how it goes

[dull siren]

it's all up to RNG

[boreal quartz]

@dull sirenwhat role color are u requesting

[halcyon breach]

yeah maybe tmy piss yellow too

fits him

[dull siren]

🤷‍♂️

⛔

No piss yellow

[boreal quartz]

new role "dogshit m+er" with idk fucking green

like turtle was

[quasi torrent]

i got it on hc week 2 on warr?

[dull siren]

[boreal quartz]

and the lego?

[quasi torrent]

Yes

[dull siren]

I'm actually happy I got the lego back in Feb

:xdd

[halcyon breach]

ok but you were literally scalie the entirety of the tier so who took the real L here

[dull siren]

MAN I NEED MY EMOTES

[boreal quartz]

i got in december NOOBER

[boreal quartz]

yellow gets u emotes

[quasi torrent]

u and ur 500 fyrakk pulls?

[finite mantle]

back in Feb like he hasn’t gotten it 4 times

[boreal quartz]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/722839477919154256.gif?v=1

[finite mantle]

cringer noob

[halcyon breach]

sorry it was only 350

[quasi torrent]

ok sorry

Wait how did it take that long then lol

[dull siren]

cap

[boreal quartz]

@halcyon breach

[dull siren]

Okay all of u talkin about legos

[halcyon breach]

idk we had 2 cancels on Fyrakk only but just a lot of pulls no prog xd

[dull siren]

how come I have 2 on 1 char

[quasi torrent]

bro joined prog late

[boreal quartz]

bro did skip 1 week yes

[halcyon breach]

ye nice pull count mr guild hoppings

[boreal quartz]

i cropped tindral for good reason

[dull siren]

:xdd

[boreal quartz]

nice 1 tim

[quasi torrent]

hopping guild mid prog is hella cringe

[boreal quartz]

not what i did

[quasi torrent]

what did u do then

[boreal quartz]

i left old guild cuz they werent progging and i was gonna kms

[dull siren]

Phil gets kick hopped

[boreal quartz]

and then joined a new guild their 2nd week on frank

[dull siren]

Can you believe it Phil...

I raid in same guild as @gaunt owl

[quasi torrent]

wtf....

[boreal quartz]

i will put you back in the mines

[dull siren]

I raid in 2 guilds xdd

[quasi torrent]

get help

[boreal quartz]

mentally ill check

[teal fossil]

and neither of them is with me

[dull siren]

Weekend 2day

13-17

xdd

[halcyon breach]

wtf are those raid times

[finite mantle]

you’re talking to a rat

[dull siren]

Day raiding

on weekend

[finite mantle]

🪤

[halcyon breach]

All day raiding going for rwf

[quasi torrent]

Oh what's that guilds name again

[dull siren]

this is fine

[finite mantle]

join ghost go back for rwf Timmy

[quasi torrent]

right

[dull siren]

GHOST

LMAO

[finite mantle]

GHOST

[boreal quartz]

bro we need to support az race to world last tonight 🫡

theyll kill

[dull siren]

I apply for the paid position

to handle

GBANK

[teal fossil]

is ghost blason guild?

[dull siren]

y

[boreal quartz]

ghost GAMING

[teal fossil]

how are they doing this tier

[halcyon breach]

good luck @opal folio I believe in you

[dull siren]

👻

[opal folio]

ty sir

[dull siren]

I do 3 raids per week tho @boreal quartz

Luka Pug - 9/9M
Main Guild - 9/9M
and This is fine 9/9M

🤓

[boreal quartz]

190 heartrate requirement

i do 3 sets of not caring daily

[dull siren]

Idk, It's kinda chill playing the game if you enjoy the game

[boreal quartz]

the game is dead unfortunately

[halcyon breach]

Raiding and reclear is enjoyable if you play with good people

[dull siren]

Just look @hazy flower he progressed the raid for so long because he enjoys it

he was done last week

[halcyon breach]

Or just people who somehow make you forget how atrocious the prog can be

[boreal quartz]

he would enjoy progging it AGAIN

IM SURE

[finite mantle]

surely

[boreal quartz]

@halcyon breachold guild hasnt killed tindral yet btw

[dull siren]

I h8 this

SoO FARM

[halcyon breach]

[boreal quartz]

and we are on reclear 4

[quasi torrent]

get help

[dull siren]

This isn't all of them

This is just TM

:xdd

[halcyon breach]

I don't think they got this chief

[finite mantle]

they’ve got it

[boreal quartz]

i think they will

but they dont even pull frank

[quasi torrent]

ill not repeat myself

[boreal quartz]

just given up

[dull siren]

u play aug

ur opinion is like

farts in the wind

[boreal quartz]

@quasi torrentey was der ph Wert von Durstlöscher

[quasi torrent]

I dont?

[quasi torrent]

Uhh probably > 7

[dull siren]

once an aug always an aug.

[quasi torrent]

wrong

[dull siren]

⬇️

No.

[quasi torrent]

[boreal quartz]

dk player

🤮

[quasi torrent]

EW

[dull siren]

ur homeless

[quasi torrent]

EWWWWWW

just buy a house?

[boreal quartz]

my cardboard box has 5 stories

absolute fucking mansion

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-kiss-suck-girl-gif-5525710854024677285

me when i fucking get you

[dull siren]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-15864401401309874112

[finite mantle]

fill we must destroy timmy

[dull siren]

dont scheme with fil

[halcyon breach]

I'm a flier on Tindral tonight gg

life is over

[dull siren]

buu huu

[boreal quartz]

ive been fly 1 for a while now

very bad

[finite mantle]

parseless

[halcyon breach]

ok your life is even more over

[boreal quartz]

i just want the bird idc that boss

[halcyon breach]

ye I mean parses on Tindral literally dont matter

but wouldn't mind pressing buttons

[dull siren]

sure buddy

keep coping

[halcyon breach]

bro I got a blue arms

[dull siren]

[halcyon breach]

do you think I care

[dull siren]

I go full ST Arms every week

lmao

[finite mantle]

make this guy piss yellow

[halcyon breach]

My % has gone up by 9% since I killed him 2 months ago

[boreal quartz]

carlo cosplay is about as low as u can fall tbh @dull siren

[latent moss]

how bored are uw tf

[finite mantle]

how mentally ill are uw tf

[boreal quartz]

how mentally ill are uw tf

[gaunt owl]

He gonna be twice in Hof

Imagine

[dull siren]

u guys

yap yap

[unborn canyon]

He raids in two guilds in case one falls apart

[boreal quartz]

like the last 2 good ones he was in

tragic

[unborn canyon]

Oof

[quasi torrent]

💀💀💀💀

[dull siren]

pretty bored

wanna play Halo?

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-alo-hello-phone-call-gif-20320635

halo

[weak jay]

is the collateral damage ww spam spec going to be any good in s4 or is that just dead?

[dull siren]

send me the talents you want

and I can sim it for u

[frigid lava]

I haven't used collateral damage because I probably forget to use WW after.

I guess I could add a WA

[olive nest]

Always make time to play halo

Best game

[frigid lava]

I played the shit out of it when I was in iraq...

but the game feels old now

[tardy crag]

Ww Sims higher for me in aoe rn

Just does turbo doggy st

[rare kite]

"spamming" ww is very dead, using ww for op stacks only might be okay

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o5VEdoAXaubtzJHZMoMrbJ

[weak jay]

eh i don't think i care enough to make you do any work for it, i barely ever play arms i just use it to fuck around in +25-27 pugs because i don't like bladestorm

[dull siren]

@weak jay

[weak jay]

well damn

thanks

[frigid lava]

ww only when nothing is available and u want to spend rage

[rare kite]

tho if you're not pushing you can pretty much play what you want and still time the key

[frigid lava]

I'm in 22~23... 😦

Isn't that still like top 5%

[weak jay]

oh I was more thinking this build https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/DAPAURUUUgVRQRpFQVBBOVVUVUVEJUSRRABCAU no bladestorm

[frigid lava]

Uh...

my current M+ build

I think u spent way too many points to increase slam dmg

[rare kite]

he wants to play fob spam

[weak jay]

yep

[rare kite]

tho it's not that great anymore, overpower got buffed too much

[weak jay]

it does pretty good right now but i only push as fury so idk how it does in higher keys

[frigid lava]

I don't think fob is good right now

[weak jay]

As long as it's good enough for fuck around with I'll be happy, it's really fun

[next token]

Hey guys, new to arms and kinda confused. Whats the correct order using cooldowns with the single bladestorm build?
Multitarget i do use Avatar>Warbreaker>Roar>Bladestorm
Singletarget Avatar>Bladestorm>Warbreaker>Roar
Is this kinda correct?

[frigid lava]

I'm guessing warbreaker after. by the time u done with bladestorm u've used up half of warbreaker effect.

but i haven't used bladestorm for a long time.

[next token]

Is bladestorm that weak even in AoE to not be used in warbreaker windows?

[frigid lava]

troar is stronger.

[teal fossil]

you roar before with single bladestorm

roar before bladestorm

so your ticks are buffed by hurricane

with single BS in AOE you def WB before

[frigid lava]

ah

[teal fossil]

shouldnt be giving input on things you dont have experience over tbh

[frigid lava]

also apply rend(TC) before too?

[teal fossil]

rend is wherever

i start TCing random stuff as tanks gather up mobs

[next token]

So Avatar>Warbreaker>Roar>Bladestorm in AoE? What changes in M+ Bossfights?

[teal fossil]

nothing really changes in m+ boss fights except BS before wb

[next token]

Thanks a lot guys

[hazy flower]

^

[teal fossil]

^

[hazy flower]

but

be realistic about it

if you see a tank taht body pulls a pack

dont go charging in into thunderclap

pay attention to what he did

sigil/throw glaive

its safe

even immo aura is fine if initial burst hits the mobs

[ebon hollow]

hey, im playing tindral today first time on my warrior and i was wondering how to break the 2nd roots since ppl dont play bladestorm and avatar is not ready for it

do i just hold avatar?

[coral crescent]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-arms/tindral-sageswift-seer-of-the-flame looks like it?

[naive carbon]

for single target with storm of swords specd, should I prio whirlwind or overpower for mortal strike resets?

[ebon hollow]

are arms warriors usually playing first or 2nd feathers?

[thick kelp]

2nd

[teal fossil]

OP

[dire hinge]

You'd want to prioritize Whirlwind if you have Colossus Smash applied to the target, otherwise Overpower

there's some instances where WW still beats out, but that's an easy rule of thumb to use

[naive carbon]

tyvm

[fresh spire]

2nd feathers best feathers. As last phase you skip a set while you whale the boss with executes

[thick kelp]

Technically best set is no feather at all 🤓

[copper swan]

https://vxtwitter.com/MrGMYT/status/1778419419506458715 sorry if it's a repost

[midnight reef]

Any changes on the dinars use since that post ?

[teal fossil]

he updates it if there was

[smoky kayak]

Na we still don’t know much more

[midnight reef]

Thats sad, my rl asked me to play warrior next season and i looking for infos on what to do with dinars

[smoky kayak]

Well he and you are in the same position as everyone else in the game

[midnight reef]

[smoky kayak]

Are you just looking for info on which items to buy?

Cause that parts pretty straightforward and the same for basically everyone

Lego upgrade, trinkets, sark cloak, rings, offhand if you intend to play Fury

[midnight reef]

lego upgrade on the first week?

[smoky kayak]

But the priorities may shift depending on how many total dinar we get access too

[smoky kayak]

Highest ilvl weapon in the game, so obviously gonna be first

[midnight reef]

thats nice

thanks man ❤️

[latent moss]

wait is 10.2.7

the panda thing

ptr

[smoky kayak]

Timerunning is part of 10.2.7 yes

[latent moss]

ye but is it active on the ptr

[smoky kayak]

Not till fri

[latent moss]

oh so there is no point playing ptr right now right

[hexed saddle]

correct

[latent moss]

im clueless about this event thats why

[smoky kayak]

Not really no

[latent moss]

like will i be able to copy my retail char

and just play

or will i have to level

[hexed saddle]

levl

[latent moss]

i assume level?

y so there is no point playing rn cause i will have to level again

[midnight reef]

wtrinkets will be icon and something else ?

[latent moss]

prob not icon

oce

icon

after the nerfs

[smoky kayak]

Icon is excessively bugged over budget and already nerfed on the PTR

I won’t say nobody will use it, but certainly not everyone will

[midnight reef]

Oce its not very rare

thats nice

[smoky kayak]

Arms is looking like Signet + OCE for ST, yeah, though I wouldn’t bet on everyone using all the buffs all the time

[latent moss]

u will be buying it anyway

with ur 2nd dinar

1st on leggo

[midnight reef]

im dropping that shit on the first vault

trust

[latent moss]

[smoky kayak]

Might buy signet first, depending on how long the fights are looking

[latent moss]

depends if u want to do keys or not also

if u want to do keys oce def

[violet steeple]

Can anyone drop me the current BIS arms M+ build? Time to prep and get used to pressing OP>MS over and over

[latent moss]

singe bladestorm

wait

[violet steeple]

Is it just the single BS no MBG build?

[latent moss]

yep

drop cleave for 2 points in bloodborne and thats it

[violet steeple]

Thanks boothang you the real MVP

[latent moss]

nah ure the real mvp for playing arms

also ucan drop cruel strikes for endurance training

and uproar for shockwave

its a w/e dps loss in most cases if ur tanks knows how to pull

[violet steeple]

❤️

[faint granite]

do i use rend on st? or still TC

[latent moss]

tc

there are some cases where u can rend to save rage

like on opener if u are doign charge rend ms leggo

but its tiny

[outer holly]

One of those technically yes but do yourself a favour and save a keybind sorta deals

[smoky kayak]

Well yeah, key prio isn’t gonna use signet (unless you really enjoy minmaxing it)

[quaint parcel]

Does Arms pull ahead of fury in super high keys or is it not much of a difference?

[rare kite]

damage wise a little bit ye

[wary raft]

does this f up the bs+box macro

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[wary raft]

frick

[halcyon breach]

Or well, you could probably still BS + Box since Ava isn't on the GCD

But you shouldn't be able to do it with lego all at once

[latent moss]

idk how blademasters torment works

but u shouldnt play that either

[wintry arch]

Can you swap weapons in combat?

[halcyon breach]

Non-special weapons typically yeah

[wintry arch]

Interesting ty

[olive nest]

Rogues get some cursed weapon swapping shit from time to time

[latent moss]

iirc there was a curse

in sanctum

with arms and gavel

swapping it

not sure

[ashen cloud]

I recall you could swap it at first, then they patched it so you couldn't

[glossy olive]

Do you use warbringer before CD's like roar and WW?

[lucid nest]

one question this build for M+ is good?I am arms at the moment!!!!!

[halcyon breach]

Right now no, you don't use Cleave until S4, and even in S4, Reaping Swings isn't needed either

Remove Cleave and Reaping Swings for 1 point in Bloodborne, and Executioner's Precision

I'd also remove Seismic Reverberation over in the Class tree, and put it into Sidearm

[olive nest]

That appears to be a mega aoe pad build but then I noticed it doesn’t have Blademasters

So who knows

Also no bloodborne

[dire hinge]

You can use Roar before or after Warbreaker. In large packs, it's a bit better to do it afterwards, since the initial hit from Roar is uncapped, but it's only a small gain.

In single target, you definitely want to roar before because the gain is so small, then warbreaker afterwards.

In all content, be sure to Avatar before you Warbreaker (if both are available)

[lucid nest]

maybe this is a few better right?

[halcyon breach]

It's worse

You picked EB which doesn't have a place rn, and you removed Thunderous Words, on top of Fatality which is just bad in M+

Thunderous Words you ALWAYS want, Uproar is secondary

BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQplIRkQSiWpkEAAAAQQEiCJBFRAJIJhmEhAEEJAAAAAAAAkolICIENEA
Use this if you want a proper M+ build with both ST and AoE balance, as much as possible

I'd also not recommend Blademasters Torment over Warlords Torment, as Blademasters might increase your AoE, but you lose a significant amount of ST for it, where as the AoE gain doesn't really warrant it

[lucid nest]

ah this build is good for raid too?

[halcyon breach]

No, it's an M+ specific build

If you want a raid build you'd use this
BcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQRikEJkDko0KJBAAAAEEhoQAFRCkAJhmEhAESIAAAAAAAAkEkkACRDB

[lucid nest]

so in anyway thanks for the build

[rare kite]

raid build is pretty set in stone, there are a few m+ builds

[halcyon breach]

The only change you'd really make is Strength of Arms -> Improved Sweeping Strikes on Council, and 1 point in Cruel Strikes in the class tree, over to Uproar and alternatively Wrecking Throw for Tindral and Fyrakk

[rare kite]

wb for pad on tswift 🙂

[dire hinge]

As a note, don't try and make one build that is good for Raid and M+ at the same time, definitely have seperate ones.

[lucid nest]

ok thanks in anyway guys

[swift nacelle]

I would like to start raiding in Arms, Do you have a rotation that goes with this talent tree?

[halcyon breach]

Wowhead has a guide you can read through which should answer most of your rotation questions, and if you don't understand it quite then you can come back in here and ask

The general rotation doesn't change much however based on the talent build you have

[lucid nest]

for rotation i have Hero Rotation is good?Because ConRO is blocked by blizzard interface so i use Hero Rotation and this is a goood choice?

[halcyon breach]

I have no idea what Hero Rotation is

But assuming it works like Hekili, telling you what button to press next, it's fine if you're completely new to a spec and starting out from fresh, but I'd recommend only using it for as long as is necessary, and get rid of it sooner rather than later

There comes a point where rotation helpers become more detrimental than helpful

Since it can't account for context of what's going on, and unless you're able to deduce it yourself, it doesn't tell you why you're pressing the buttons you are, and in the order that you do

[lucid nest]

yes i was fury and i have switched to arms!!!!!

This is Hero Rotation ah i have abilited dynamic target in the interface ui and is very helpfull i se the target and is automatically targeted

i charge the target and obviously i see the next spell

[dire hinge]

ah, yeah it's like Hekili but it only shows one button at a time + helpful supporting buttons

[lucid nest]

yes

[dire hinge]

Banezi's advice above would still apply. You're welceome to use it, but those kinds of tools aren't situtationally aware of things like boss timers or how/when to burst. It's fine to use, nobody can stop you and you can play the game however you want to. If you're looking to learn Arms long-term, it's best to learn the rationale behind why the buttons are pressed so you can apply the knowledge premptively, whereas those addons are all reactionary

[quasi torrent]

press MS

[dire hinge]

MS will save us

[quasi torrent]

MS

[lucid nest]

yes i use only for better the rotation of my warr

[dire hinge]

oh totally you're fine! Nothing wrong with it or anything ❤️

[finite mantle]

MS my love

[dire hinge]

my body is ready for the exhilirating blows resets

[lucid nest]

so last question for stat (obiouvsly are work in progress) are good?I have branch and cataclismyc what is the best trinket i can use?

[hazy flower]

Stats are fine-ish, you're still gearing. Trinkets depend on the content you're doing

And on the item level of said trinkets

If all of them are same ilv then for raid I would take brand + pips and for m+ might + pips - can swap brand for branch if the fight is short

[lucid nest]

So more crit haste or crit mastery?

[hazy flower]

I guess more haste, but for now focus on getting any item that's an ilv bump. I wouldn't start simming till I'm full of m+ gear (480-483+)

[lucid nest]

Ok thanks so much i focused for m+ for the moment

[frigid lava]

spam M+ possibly 17 or higher

[lucid nest]

I have one 16 fall of galakrond at the moment

[frigid lava]

16 is fine. u need crests anyways

lots of them.

u can be 480+ in days but I wouldn't sweat too much. Since the next week is the last week of the season.

[lucid nest]

I am 1337 r.io

[glossy olive]

how about WW

by WW I mean the long one I forgot the name

long spiny spiny

[dire hinge]

ah, Bladestorm

[glossy olive]

Yes bladestorm lol

[dire hinge]

Sorry, got wrapped up in some work stuff.
It depends on which build you're running, but if you're running the "Single Bladestorm" build, you'd use it like this:

• In AoE situations (trash fights): Avatar+Roar -> Warbreaker -> Bladestorm -> Rotation
• in Single target (boss fights): Roar -> Bladestorm -> Avatar -> Warbreaker -> Rotation

[glossy olive]

Im new to testing arms but warbreaker increases dmg taken by mobs

[dire hinge]

correct yeah, but only for 10 seconds

[glossy olive]

So dont you want that before roar and other thing that do big dmg

things*

im sure i am missing something, just trying to understand

[dire hinge]

So the nice thing is that Roar lasts 16 seconds for Arms, and the DoT ticks do most of your damage. This means you have ~6 seconds of wiggle room to do some other things ahead of time to amplify the bleed damage

oh of course, you're fine, that's why we're here to help 🎉

[outer holly]

Good guy Hrothmar

[glossy olive]

ty

[dire hinge]

so things like Bladestorm (which gives you Hurricane's buff) will be rolling as your bleeds are ticking + Avatar's damage amp + Warbreaker's damage amp

the only thing that would go unbuffed would be the "upfront" hit of Roar, but that's not terribly important.

also: you really, really want all of Roar's DoT ticks to last on your targets, so casting it early means there's more time for the DoTs to do their full 16 second duration. If the pack dies before 16 seconds, it loses some value, comparatively, so casting it earlier often just ensures it has more value

[cinder ocean]

What about for double bladestorm?

[dire hinge]

Double bladestorm isn’t as recommended these days, just because it loses a lot of single target damage for not that much more AoE.

That said, if you do run it, if all of your cooldowns are available, you’d do:
Charge -> Clap -> Avatar+Roar (free bladestorm here) -> Warbreaker -> Whirlwind -> Bladestorm (before Hurricane buff from the first Bladestorm wears off) -> Sweeping Strikes -> Rotation

Recasting bladestorm the second time refreshes existing stacks of Hurricane, instead of having to start its “stacking” from scratch. So your second bladestorm is fully empowered the whole time you’re spinning

[grand idol]

Retraining myself to cleave before using cds will take a minute.

You would want to fish a cleave crit in the opener there I think.

[proud plover]

dont fish

charge > tc > cleave (crit or not) cd's

[grand idol]

yea, sorry. I meant send a single cleave

It will more than likely crit at least once

[outer holly]

What's the cleave prio in ST for S4? Does it weave in often due to the tier or nah?

[proud plover]

dont run cleave in ST

[outer holly]

I mean for dungeon bosses

[proud plover]

tier procs from ms and cleave so in st/2t use ms+ss > op and in 3t+ cleave replaces ms

[dire hinge]

Cleave consumes your Martial Prowess (overpower buff) stacks, but hits like a wet noodle in single target

Try not to cleave even on boss fights, fill with Tclap if you need to

[outer holly]

Okay so regardless of tier proc the damage doesnt justify a gcd

sweet thanks

[proud plover]

ms also causes the tier to proc, you just swap ms/cleave depending on target count

[dire hinge]

Yeah just focus on getting mortal strike back through Overpower (Battlelord) and resetting overpower (tactician)

[proud plover]

i vote we rename Bladestorm to this from now on

[dire hinge]

Haha, “extremely improved whirlwind”

[proud plover]

"Dizzywind"

[sage badge]

[proud plover]

oh shit

[dire hinge]

Those were the season 4 changes, just hotfixed to live suddenly today

[proud plover]

pb 1 sec gcd was the before?

[dire hinge]

Icon was waayyy overstated, that checks out, but rip puzzlebox dual channels

[proud plover]

no more free cast inside free bstorm

[dire hinge]

Can still Fyralath I believe, just can’t trinket channel 😕

[grand idol]

I believe people were saying ti works with avatar still

[proud plover]

back to anvil macroed to ms then

[random ibex]

.4% wipe on fyrakk, was almost free

[vale otter]

Hey! question, never played arms but im wondering how its gonna be gameplay wise in s4 with the tierset that won (not necessarely dmg just like an idea of it)

[compact geyser]

its gonna be better than fury

[dire hinge]

good luck!

[dire hinge]

Are you wondering about the rough rotation, or sort of like a "very high level, brief description" kinda thing

[vale otter]

second one

i mean i know rotation varies per fight prob

but like the general idea

[dire hinge]

haha, i wish, it's basically got two flavors of rotation (single target and aoe)

[vale otter]

damn

[dire hinge]

So for a brief description, with no prior arms experience, it's basically:

Single target:

You basically cast major cooldowns as soon as they're available, then upkeep two bleeds. This is much easier to do than other specs and never causes problems. Your main goal is to have one of your abilities, Mortal Strike, cast as often as possible. If that ability is on cooldown, you try and reset it. If the reset doesn't work, you spend rage as much as possible, which indirectly resets it.
Also, Execute does big funny number.

AOE is where it gets a bit more flexible, as you mentioned, but basically:

Big cooldowns, Big Spin, lots of constant AoE abilities, big numbers, while keeping decent priority damage

[vale otter]

i rlly hope execute feels better to press

when i tried it (tho at a very low ilvls) pressing exec in low hp windows didnt feel any different than just any other button in s3

[dire hinge]

it's very good in raid at high level

[vale otter]

or at least thats how it felt for me compared to what i heard about arms historically

[dire hinge]

mostly through this

[vale otter]

i guess i was expecting to see this lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMqvb8QiUk

any good streamers or vods to watch for arms?

sounds fun

im a sub main so anything that is "burst cds" is my element lol

[dire hinge]

sorry, in a key. It still feels good to execute by all means!

it's a bit more complex than legion, but still quite good

[vale otter]

i do like complexity :D

[dire hinge]

it's a fun time

[teal fossil]

this is fury btw

[vale otter]

oh lmao

[rare kite]

critcake has plenty of videos on his youtube channel and streams everyday or atleast almost everyday

[raven nymph]

Bizentien

[thick kelp]

wallife

[vale otter]

Ty for the info, i guess with the new tierset you pick different talents like no roar in st? So its gonna be different when patch comes out

[dire hinge]

we keep roar in single target still, it's very, very strong on arms

we do take slightly different talents for single target in Season 4, but honestly the core gameplay it the same as it is now, minus the frequency of our free executes (and how those would mostly upkeep one of our bleeds for us)

Mortal Strike --> Overpower to get Mortal Strike back --> Spend rage to try and get Overpower back