arms

[latent moss]

cause it was all aoe spells

[teal fossil]

wasnt fury dogshit at it

[latent moss]

yes

[teal fossil]

nah arms was definitely top dog at lords

[gaunt owl]

pretty sure it was awfully bad

[teal fossil]

you just needed to learn the FOB collat tech

[latent moss]

after the buffs yes

[teal fossil]

nah it was good in rwf

[gaunt owl]

just had to follow the Critcake video on that

[latent moss]

revvez was topping as fury on fights fury was low mid

[gaunt owl]

i wish we still had some cool tech to do big dmg like this

[teal fossil]

frost was better though

[latent moss]

wtf revvez below

[teal fossil]

but arms was definitely #2 #3

[gaunt owl]

yeah Frost and Survival

[teal fossil]

yeah revvez kinda shit

frost had breath

and survival had bombs

[latent moss]

survival tierset was

[teal fossil]

but arms was definitely a top dog on lords

even pre everything

[gaunt owl]

was big

[latent moss]

nf arms was

goated

bring it back

[gaunt owl]

not sure if they even had Gavel for this fight

because Gavel with right proc was turbo blasting

[latent moss]

die gavel die

[teal fossil]

no gavel

gavel took a bit to discover

cuz it didnt sim properly

[gaunt owl]

but prog was long as fuck

[teal fossil]

oh yeha true

[gaunt owl]

was 4 weeks RWF

[teal fossil]

@ vil

should i

[gaunt owl]

and last 3 boss were time gated

only available on 2nd week iirc

[teal fossil]

yeah so you couldnt even get gavel until week 2

[latent moss]

infamous

halondrus into anduin

[teal fossil]

probably took another week to sim it properly

[latent moss]

into lod which was meh

into rygelon into jailer

no wonder so many guilds quit

[teal fossil]

limit took 4 arms

this class was so good

[latent moss]

gapped

[teal fossil]

(until it got outscaled)

[latent moss]

tier was so shit

8% that would randomly fall off

but it was a fun tier

[gaunt owl]

so many layer of RNG this tier

it was a bit insane

[astral yarrow]

gimme back omegagiga rally

[opal folio]

Man I miss that so much

I always picked it for raid, my cowarrior didn’t

So mine was assigned to the more important bits

Made me feel special

[teal fossil]

but it had a low pick rate

[sacred zodiac]

no one would pick such a talent

[opal folio]

What’s interesting with sepulcher is that it predominantly killed mid-to late CE guilds, while DF killed off a bunch of top 10 guilds

[shadow ibex]

esp not the same tier as a fight like rashok

[gaunt owl]

Echo and Liquid are killing Top10 guilds

[opal folio]

True

[astral yarrow]

hate those guys

[opal folio]

Hey man, honestly don’t blame them

You do what you gotta do

[gaunt owl]

and then you have the retirment home Instant Dollars

[opal folio]

The real blame should fall on the game director waging a holy war on his core playerbase

[smoky kayak]

have been for years lol

[gaunt owl]

its because he is balding

[shadow ibex]

what happened i been raid logging fryak prog

besides colossus root

[opal folio]

Private auras, tindral

[gaunt owl]

private aura is the stupidest idea they introduced this xpac

when they do some mechanic that are impossible to deal with WA

1 seconds to assign 5 player in their corner

they forgot what made Mekkatorque mechanic a good one with the 3 robots

[shadow ibex]

yea that was ap good fight ngl

[gaunt owl]

we were so good with my guild at doing this mekkanic

it took us less than 5 seconds after

1 guy call 2 other

and one of the 2 call the first caller

[shadow ibex]

those lightning puddles at the end of the fight

+the los thing

[gaunt owl]

i was MM hunter main so i was greedy and killed the raid thrice

i was gonna get benched if i did it again

[shadow ibex]

yea now that i really remember that fight had a fuck ton goin on

[gaunt owl]

GARROSH PARRIED MY CS

THIS GUY

[latent moss]

classic dmg breakdown

[shadow ibex]

chad

his last item was a shitty axe the same tier as jaithys tho

[teal fossil]

what are the odds lol

the parry penalty on a mob 30 levels down is insane

[gaunt owl]

this game hates me

this is daily reminder that parry still exists

[teal fossil]

this is from SL

maybe garrosh is built different

theres no way hes not at least 20 levels under you

[gaunt owl]

gonna check on trashmob

it was with my lvl 53 old ass warrior

mobs are lvl 36 in SoO

but it was mythic diff

[teal fossil]

are they still ??? level

in SOO

[teal fossil]

but here it says its 3 levels

[gaunt owl]

yep boss lvl

[teal fossil]

so it would be like 39

53-39=14

[smoky kayak]

I'm not actually sure how old expac bosses work anymore after all the squishes and stuff, but I vaguely recall boss level mobs always being considered +3 over the player for purposes of combat table rolls

[teal fossil]

so its probably still the static 15% parry then

[gaunt owl]

its 15% ?

i recall 5% baseline

[smoky kayak]

players have a 3% base chance to parry, if that's what you mean

[teal fossil]

i mean boss has 15% to parry players

[shadow ibex]

should be 0

[smoky kayak]

nowhere near that high, I think it's only 3% for bosses?

I think it was like 14% in classic? but you could mitigate that with weapon skill

idk exactly, I haven't looked into it in ages, I just know its an annoying mechanic that doesn't serve any practical purpose or need to exist in PvE anymore

[gaunt owl]

what was the terms they used

it adds texture ?

some random bullshit

[smoky kayak]

idk, but "random bullshit" sounds about right to me

[wintry herald]

Expertise later on

[smoky kayak]

same difference, yeah

[wintry herald]

Wow suffers from having old mechanics mixed to new ones, always has

[smoky kayak]

I guess on a technical level; its >14% until you max weapon skill and then its mitigated further by expertise? but semantics

[wintry herald]

Expertise reduced* chances to be dodged/parried/blocked and idk what else, but something along those line

[hazy flower]

I had

x3 sds as x3 globals in a row

on one of the pulls ydya

all 3 parried

💢

I was madge

[smoky kayak]

yeah, it was added in TBC as basically a replacement for bonus weapon skill in vanilla

[gaunt owl]

and it somehow consume the SD proc too sometimes

[smoky kayak]

this is absofuckinlutely true though; wow is such a hodgepodge jenga of old design decisions stacked atop one another

[gaunt owl]

in 3 xpac we have wow2.0

its gonna be ok

[untold trench]

[hazy flower]

@ornate eagle

took me 13 keys

to get it

[ornate eagle]

👏

[gaunt owl]

too many pink

can we talk about the 3rd ret

doing negative dmg ?

[dire hinge]

probably new or gearing ❤️

plate stack fo frands

[gaunt owl]

so keylvl was 27 right @hazy flower

[dire hinge]

you can do a 27 with friends as a treat

[hazy flower]

20

[gaunt owl]

ok dps meter unrelated

[hazy flower]

ye it was some random boost run

I was fishing for key

from chest

[latent moss]

i do more as fury

[hazy flower]

dps meter is related

btw

[latent moss]

noobs

[olive nest]

150k would have been* big in Shadowlands

[ornate eagle]

inv me for that key btw

we gonna reflect yazma to death

3min kill

[latent moss]

3 fury warriors go

[hazy flower]

I got

3 dps slots

filled

made a team on tuesday

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/red-hair-cat-watching-surprised-gif-317525808660355276

[hazy flower]

ret is some 99 logger

and mage is 95

mage 95 is like warrior 101

[ornate eagle]

but no reflect

[hazy flower]

just heal

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[ornate eagle]

no need to heal

if boss kills itself

[hazy flower]

btw

went 29 today

people aped a bit so we wiped on yazma

and then ret left because 4:30 is not enough for yazma

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1036769769543704576.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

he doesnt know

[ornate eagle]

he lacks critical information

[gaunt owl]

typical FOTM reroller

left the brain in the freezer to prevent further rotting

[hazy flower]

(was 50k behind me on overall pre yazma)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1171395617839382559.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[lone imp]

yikes

[daring heron]

think that should not happen

not very good ret

[hazy flower]

higher rio

rio=skill

[wintry scroll]

Higher rio = higher ego

The skill stops at +25’s

[boreal quartz]

Lol

[quasi torrent]

that's

so wrong

ego starts declining at 27

skill doesn't start until 29

[nova marsh]

If you can't do +35s are you even playing wow

[dire hinge]

the only 35s im getting are my parses 😎

[nova marsh]

Actual skill issue

[dire hinge]

nah im just a 4% aura buff away from 100s, i can feel it

[hazy flower]

thats super true

unfortunately

it doesnt fully decline

[quasi torrent]

ye

theres always some silly goobers

but

in like 24-27

[hazy flower]

rio hell

[quasi torrent]

there is absolute DOGS

[hazy flower]

skill wise and player wise

[quasi torrent]

thinking theyre gods gift to the game

[boreal quartz]

If i timed a 27 it means everyone can time that

[latent moss]

same tbh

[boreal quartz]

As i was dogshit awful in sl

[hazy flower]

how high

was 27 in sl

relatively to now

[latent moss]

very iirc

[boreal quartz]

Went up to 35 if jy

[latent moss]

ye but that was jy

[boreal quartz]

Nah in prepatch was fake as fuck

[hazy flower]

so not that high tbf like 23-24 no?

[latent moss]

oh u did it in prepatch

i thought like regular season

[boreal quartz]

On mage

Xdd

[latent moss]

:xdd:

man i would no life m+ if i had a full group and didnt have to pug a fucking healer

[boreal quartz]

It's basically a 23,5 at best

[latent moss]

that doesnt heal a tank for 10 seconds straight

[boreal quartz]

But it was streets

[latent moss]

in a 28

idk it was that ad 28 deplete

[hazy flower]

streets is hard?

like eb?

or

[latent moss]

week 1 streets

was demonic

i was 50 minutes over time

[hazy flower]

so like tot halfway through week 1

[latent moss]

day 1

in a 15

[hazy flower]

because then it was nerfed

[latent moss]

nah i did tott week 1

[hazy flower]

I only tried the nerfed version at all, even in a 13

[latent moss]

unironically i think streets is worse

[latent moss]

not even on warr :xd:

[hazy flower]

been in ad prison

for rezan

[latent moss]

and 27-23wcm deplete was a nail in the coffin for me

this season

[boreal quartz]

I did 24 early on then didnt care

Dont really care allat much

[latent moss]

idk

ngl fury also ruined it

for me

spec is INSANELY unfun

in m+

its literally a haha cant die meme

does nothing just doesnt die

haha guys look im fullhealing myself every 2nd global for 8 seconds!

im sure something can kill me

and the gameplay is straight ass this season

arms with pug heals was a traumatizing experience

rotting to 50k rot

xdd

[hazy flower]

ngl I havent played arms in sub 28 for a while

outside of 1 or 2 meme keys with meme builds

it's too easy to carry the group as tank

that if I want to up my key I would be trolling if I decided to pug as arms instead of prot

[gaunt owl]

you mean that tank got skill issue ?

[hazy flower]

I mean I suck as tank but

still better than pug tanks

that decide to do random shit

or flop at random moments

vdhs dying on 2nd boss in wcm on fortified is like

[latent moss]

vdhs dying is like

[gaunt owl]

they floppity flopping around

seen too many just chewing more than they can handle

[latent moss]

anyone here

played arms on the ptr

[astral yarrow]

No, its dead just leave it be

[latent moss]

[gaunt owl]

look what they did to my boy

[latent moss]

wat

did something happen

[astral yarrow]

They took away IP

[wind flicker]

I did @latent moss

Whatsup

[latent moss]

what build did u play

jugg with 1 bb and cleave

or bladestorm

[wind flicker]

Double bladestorm cleave

I also played single bladestorm

[vestal smelt]

Wait they took away IP completely in PTR?

[wind flicker]

MBG is bugged tho, hurting overall a lot

[wind flicker]

No

[latent moss]

its bugged on the ptr as well?

:Xdd:

[wind flicker]

Yes it is

[latent moss]

imagine s4 launches and its still bugged

and doesnt get fixed until 11.0

[vestal smelt]

What's bugged about it?

[wind flicker]

Was there anything specific u wanted to know?

[wind flicker]

It doesnt work at all

[latent moss]

just damage wise

how are we so far

[vestal smelt]

Wait is that the same on live?

Coz I noticed that I wasn't getting the buff after BS ended

[wind flicker]

AOE is insanely strong (when we get MBG) ST is wack on double bs

[latent moss]

y double bs st is

cant wait to play fury

s2 goated build

[wind flicker]

The other build is okay ish st still good aoe

[vestal smelt]

Is MBG working on live? Are you supposed to get a buff? Coz I don't see anything

[latent moss]

last time i tried

no

[wind flicker]

No

[dire hinge]

oh my, it doesn't work on Live?

[wind flicker]

Its broken on PTR and live

[dire hinge]

😬

[smoky kayak]

Bugged since the patch

[vestal smelt]

Oh boy

Surely they fix it before next patch right?

[gaunt owl]

they wont fix it

so you guys gonna have to stop padding the meter

and do prio dmg

[latent moss]

good

[gaunt owl]

[latent moss]

die mbg die

[vestal smelt]

I play Juggernaut anyway lol

[latent moss]

today im gonna run double bs in algethar and spend 15 minutes on crawth

[gaunt owl]

with all the buff to OP and DN we got

i wouldnt go back to padding

[latent moss]

jugg looking like the move honestly

and hurricane bs

[vestal smelt]

I just wish Cleave was good. I loved pressing that button

[latent moss]

single bs / jugg

[vestal smelt]

I'm running Jugg with Fatality. It's workign quite well this week

[gaunt owl]

your Arms privilege are revoked

plz spec back to Fury

[vestal smelt]

I'm going full prio/st in my jugg build this week. Can't stop me

[latent moss]

i played full st last season

in most keys as arms

tom blunt instruments

[vestal smelt]

Drop 1 point BB for Fatality. Sims better, performs better in live

[latent moss]

cause we had spriest ret and they did all the aoe

legit we were overkilling packs so hard it was insane

[vestal smelt]

^

Every key I am in I have a ret with leggo that is full padding their brains out

[latent moss]

@gaunt owl hidden cook last season was tom bi sks

[smoky kayak]

It’ll be fixed by S4

[latent moss]

it was soooo good but no one played it

[vestal smelt]

And this week, running single BS packs die before I have time to ramp my damage

[latent moss]

i mean thats a key issue

[bleak jasper]

okay yeah

[gaunt owl]

stop doing 20's with 490 ilvl

[bleak jasper]

that algethar i did on the PTS

with no MBG

that sucked

[vestal smelt]

I'm not

24-26s It's just there's no point running AOE talents this week when bosses are clearly the bigger issue

[latent moss]

i mean ye in those keys

packs get oneshot

[vestal smelt]

I may be alone in this discord with this, but I genuinely do not care what my overall looks like. I just care that I see +5 score after each key

[latent moss]

u are not alone

i was almost always lowest on the overall with tom bi last season but the damage that mattered i was top always

and i enjoyed it tbh

in keys where we needed aoe i played fury

or wb sks arms

until they decided to gut sks

[smoky kayak]

Nothing wrong with that; better to know why you’re doin what you’re doing instead of blindly following others

That’s why things like discord exist, to discuss those ideas

[vestal smelt]

Exactly this. I use this discord as a place to riff off ideas that I have to see where I can improve my overall gameplay. Whereas a lot of players here only care about getting the 100 parse, which is fair but it's just not what I care about personally

[gaunt owl]

My idea is fuck Fatality i hate this garbo talent

[halcyon breach]

Good thing there are a lot of valuable discussions going on in here, such as what the most optimal stats should be like

[boreal quartz]

Real

[latent moss]

80/10/0/0

[latent moss]

2bb is too strong overall

[boreal quartz]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1021497194144092271/1222927892024000632/image.png?ex=6617ff5a&is=66058a5a&hm=13ed81eeec98132bfb4591883734eb47277f93b7f12b2903b5fcbda51fc43f2a& haste break point jumpscare!!

[halcyon breach]

AAAAAA

[gaunt owl]

lol i love this graph

[latent moss]

me when im above the haste breakpoint

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-sunshine-lebron-james-sunshine-sunshine-lebron-you-are-my-sunshine-you-are-my-sunshine-gif-509896211431970290

[boreal quartz]

Bear in mind it's fury and idk if it's s3 or s4

[latent moss]

i would do the one when im below but i dont have the gif

[gaunt owl]

btw to keep prio dmg

one of the best thing to do is to go for Strength of Arms

instead of fatality

[boreal quartz]

Fair and balanced talent

[latent moss]

40% buff is crazy

[hazy flower]

ye

fatality poorly scales in keys

and in pure st it's not that much above bb iirc?

[latent moss]

y

fight needs to be pretty long

[gaunt owl]

yes and no !

it should always be about the same % of your dmg in a fight

but yeah BB is probably far more valuable even in ST

[latent moss]

how close is non tom fatality to 2bb

[gaunt owl]

depend on the size of TOM

[hazy flower]

^

it +/- is always the same

unless u know

you have specific fight that starts at 50%

or your group dies when you get into execute

but in normal groups and on normal bosses its % is similar always

provided you're not playing with tom

[gaunt owl]

its ST dont look at numbers its with PTR gear

[hazy flower]

hm 1,3% is more than I thought

I thought it's like 0,7%

[gaunt owl]

its with next tier set

[hazy flower]

ah

[gaunt owl]

so its changing the deal a bit

the 30% rend dmg is kinda big

[hazy flower]

because rend ye

[gaunt owl]

on Dslice its dead even

[hazy flower]

@teal fossil mentioned this issue

that it assumed you will execute every single target

to consume the stacks

in aoe it's only a gain on 1 to 2 targets realistically

[teal fossil]

The amount of effort for 0.1% is painful

[gaunt owl]

first one i did ST

[hazy flower]

not even effort

it's straight up a dungeon time loss

[gaunt owl]

but yeah its clearly horse shit to snipe those Fatal stack

[hazy flower]

if you wanted to consume all stacks

because in every key in most packs

[gaunt owl]

and clearly a loss in real scenario

[hazy flower]

you have some prio target

in brh you have archers

and then highest target mob

[gaunt owl]

guys you have to bug report this trinket

its not 1min30 CD

clearly not intended

[teal fossil]

Just wait until the 15% buff in 10.3

For fatality to scale

[gaunt owl]

they forgot to buff it in 10.2

so they need to do 30% now !

[teal fossil]

Yeah it’s messed up

[wintry scroll]

I never understood how this shit worked

[teal fossil]

You get random procs of strength

After using it

[wintry scroll]

So u use it before burst or sumn ?

It’s a shit trink anyway

[gaunt owl]

it was secretly the BIS in S1

[hazy flower]

if it was 30%

it could actually be worthwile

in keys

[gaunt owl]

before they did the stupid 10.0.5 OP buff

[astral yarrow]

and 10.2.5 op buff

[verbal marten]

anyone have a wa for suddend eath procs?

on the tier set

i keep ignoring them since i was playing fury and i barely pressed exe during cds

[astral yarrow]

you can just use the template function in WAs to make that since its just a trigger off a buff getting applied to you

its maybe 4 or 5 clicks to make yourself

[verbal marten]

im not good with making WAs

[astral yarrow]

which is why im suggesting templates

[verbal marten]

im trying to find the kaching sound the s2 fury set used

done :pog

[thorny laurel]

Got my legendary today and Im not even happy. Just glad this is over

[prisma heart]

[dreamy egret]

so its there any news can we use a dinar to purchase the upgrade token for legendary or is it a drop that we are going to get fucked over with ?

[rain pagoda]

the upgrade item is on the dinar vendor on the ptr

dinar = bullion now

[dreamy egret]

for some reason my ptr for df 10.2.6 is incompatable

but I just got on 10.2.5 >.>

[bleak jasper]

that typically means there's a patch

i have it too though

so update soon may be?

[north mesa]

Should be, the test period for M+ hasn't ended so likely an update

[bleak jasper]

hopefully MBG fix

doubt they'll drop class tunings

or items

[grave cedar]

Hi guys, quick question: if you filter mythic smolderon to the 95th percentile for warriors, arms and fury are pretty equal in damage. But the top 100 leaderboards for DPS war heavily favor fury. Is that because of the popularity of the spec or is arms harder to parse on that fight?

[bleak jasper]

there we go. patch is downloading.

[carmine fossil]

Greetings yall.. i have a strange question, why does wowhead show five pieces of tier being the best for raid setup? is it a situation where you sim it yourself?

[grand idol]

Generally speaking all the stats are interchangeable at the highest gear levels.

[carmine fossil]

ahh ok, ty Raggu

[astral yarrow]

i mean arms is always gonna favor crit and haste until diminishing returns, so thats not really true

you cant just throw all the crit into vers and get the same result

[grand idol]

yea, but he was asking ab out specifically tier

So on those 5 spots. Assuming youre keeping 4 piece. its essentially interchangeable

[astral yarrow]

oh, now i understand what you meant then my b

yeah its marginal

[carmine fossil]

sounds good, ty

[smoky kayak]

it was strong af in P1, but nobody wanted to use it 😦

the dragon whelp thing also ended up strong but I had zero desire to mess with it

[smoky kayak]

it'll be fixed by S4

[rain pagoda]

didnt it take a few months before people even understood how it worked?

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, because of the whole training thing, and even then it was still pretty obscure

[reef mauve]

jfc 8k haste and my sims still want more

[bleak jasper]

yeah that's fair. i was hoping to see it on the PTS

[hardy olive]

Arms owns

[pliant jetty]

[warped spade]

is there a way on logs to see how buffed test of might was

like what % it gave

[hazy flower]

can check casts

that's about it

when you used cs and how many abilities + how much they cost

[warped spade]

I'm not doing that

but you just made me think, can just look at AP

[dire hinge]

Nah broke atm after the patch

Doesn’t give buff at all

[fringe moon]

It was good in s1 because we lacked haste

[hardy olive]

my guild Kaboomed

need mythic fyrakk prog group where do i find it

[quaint otter]

🫡

[halcyon breach]

wowprogress.com

[gaunt owl]

not only haste dude secret ninjutsu SKS pewpew

[halcyon breach]

Idk you might be omega lucky (or unlucky) and find people who are looking for stand-ins for prog in the LFG

Which like

Can go many ways

[gaunt owl]

i had dragon whelp thingy and it sadly was too random with the training too when it was known how it works

[boreal quartz]

Idk haste proc has to be large Af to be worth innit

[gaunt owl]

why is PTR down

[fresh spire]

Nerfing rogue

[dull siren]

Buffing Fury

[quaint otter]

[fresh spire]

Fury needs more than a buff at this point in s2

Need to 2x the set bonus damage amp and buff rampage 400%

[quasi torrent]

delete arms

buff fury

100%

real

[fresh spire]

I would say delete anda

But he has orange cat pfp

Ur safe

[gaunt owl]

[fresh spire]

[opal folio]

[fresh spire]

Might need to make more slam cat memes

Since the rotation changed

[gaunt owl]

need a full rage bar

and MS / OP spam

[lament reef]

Can i still drop fyralath from normal or lfr if i already did hc the week?

[latent moss]

cant wait for the eb blord spam

[gaunt owl]

ready for 100 parse to have so many lucky proc

[halcyon breach]

nope

[chilly vigil]

can anyone answer me why fatal mark does less damage than what is says when it is a dot?

[quasi torrent]

armor bro

[chilly vigil]

ty

[gaunt owl]

its not a dot

[quasi torrent]

it is a debuf frfr

[hazy flower]

Its a bigass execute

[gaunt owl]

we hate it

[hazy flower]

I dont hate it when I have 50% tom

I got ashes in my vault @gaunt owl

[gaunt owl]

we hate it and TOM

nice

[hazy flower]

Still havent picked the vault but im gonna grab a socket

[gaunt owl]

[hazy flower]

Thought about it for science but na

If I get avoidance piece next week

(Cope)

[gaunt owl]

imagine not having 20 socket in reserve

[hazy flower]

I was taking

Useless shit

Just so I dont take a socket

Got 489 mirror

[sacred zodiac]

🪞

[quasi torrent]

🪞

[fresh spire]

[abstract vale]

[fresh spire]

Bakers about me is fucking wild

Polish?

[fringe moon]

Fatality should have armor penetration. Kind of dumb that the damage is reduced by armor.

[gaunt owl]

remove Fatality

we all hate it !

[hazy flower]

Fuck tom!!! Im gay!! Im gay!!

[frigid lava]

Struggling to get to 3k io... maybe i suck

maybe i don't have leggo :0

[misty bridge]

you don't need lego to get 3k io

[frigid lava]

that's just my disappoint mark on my dps

[quasi torrent]

Yes

sucky bucky

[zealous rampart]

you can be 3k io ez while dealing same dps as tankl

you only need to play good

[boreal quartz]

you dont need to play good

[hazy flower]

This reminds me

And when I was gonna tank my wm 25

And I forced ppaww to come (3k io)

Also invited some 3.2 pug war that didnt want to play because he was afraid it wasnt gonna be 2chested with ppaww being only 3k io

💀

Grey logging mf judging people

[boreal quartz]

lol

[hazy flower]

He legit

Left

[boreal quartz]

paw famously grey logger

[hazy flower]

And I whispered him

That ppaww is logging 98 vs his grey parses on mythic

And the guy ignored me

💀

[boreal quartz]

people dont like seeing their logs

[gaunt owl]

cant help them

[hazy flower]

3.2k hardstuck

Judging people

I cant

[gaunt owl]

from alcohol fetal syndrome

[hazy flower]

Its the rio hell anda mentioned yday

[gaunt owl]

yep the 25+ range

thats why i dont like m+

[hazy flower]

I remember playing with some blue rio ret

That did close to my dam

[gaunt owl]

they use RIO has an absolute perfect full proof metric

[hazy flower]

In ad 28

Because he simply didnt play this season yet

[untold trench]

We having the discussion of:
"Why they not invite me? I am good enough" and then "Well, because there are other better options than yourself", finally something like "I deserve a chance, I dont want to do my own key or make friends. Invite me reeeee!"
?

[hazy flower]

Mf is full on chatgpt today

[latent moss]

its awful

[shadow ibex]

give me 25 yard range watch what happens

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-gonna-die-kevin-hart-pshew-gif-11755680

[smoky kayak]

Gonna give Arms increased melee range on abilities but not autos 🙃

[vast helm]

PTR up ?

[slow saddle]

🤣 we have enough rage

[quasi torrent]

overpower doesn't cost anything

[shadow ibex]

This is the best button OP has ever been in history of warrior

And I hate it

[prisma heart]

Give us a new talent that gives us +5yd range when using polearms, old sword and axe specializations when using swords or axes, and a chance to reduce enemy armor by x% when using maces. Call it master of arms.

[gaunt owl]

so bring back shit weapon specialization ?

we was talking about the range of key lvl

[prisma heart]

[teal fossil]

ppl dont think things through

[warped spade]

Yup, a filler/secondary ability shouldn't be that strong or common.

People hate on slam. There was a time when slam felt great to press

[latent moss]

slam increases the damage of your next mortal strike by 20% stacks up to 3 times

[slow saddle]

😁

[versed carbon]

boiz any advice ?

[halcyon breach]

get gear

[versed carbon]

ps gonna change the neck to the crafted one to 486

[misty bridge]

do more m+/raid

[versed carbon]

DAM

okyy

[boreal quartz]

aquire legendary

fix trinket situation

re-sim gear

[smoky kayak]

push MS more

[daring heron]

where ptr

[sharp tendon]

on wowhead was a articel some weapons recollors somebody know what name this weapon is original ?

its from rbc but not from raid or dungeon

[lean bough]

Do you think it's possible to get title only pugging as Arms

[boreal quartz]

if ur good

but lfg is cbt

[lean bough]

And only applying to keys, never posting your own

[boreal quartz]

thats just dumb tho

[lean bough]

I said what I said

Handle of Tito's and 50 pullups says it's not

[boreal quartz]

?

[ornate eagle]

ive basically never posted my own key

and im 3652 rn

(i do play with a good amount of friends tho)

but i sent alot of fullpug keys aswell

just takes infinite amount of time to get invited

[lean bough]

You should tell Phil that

He said that's dumb but I think you're OG for it

[ornate eagle]

its just whenever i invite people i get way too picky

cuz i check logs both raid and m+

and i just pick bad players somehow each time despite good logs

so i cba and just apply on end whenever im turbo bored

[hazy flower]

I got to 3.7 pugging

[boreal quartz]

but you did post your key

[quasi torrent]

advice on what

[boreal quartz]

scroll up to 1 message below the axe picture

[quasi torrent]

phil

opinion on bolas

[boreal quartz]

is that the ret guy

[magic canopy]

trollbane

p sure

[boreal quartz]

opinion on hosen andus

[quasi torrent]

bad

hosen bad

we hate hosen

[boreal quartz]

but opinion on bolas is i dont care as i dont play ret

[quasi torrent]

what

[boreal quartz]

there is a person named bolas

idk

not balls3d moment

[quasi torrent]

ok no

thats not what i mean

[boreal quartz]

tragic

[smoky kayak]

not sure, but not all of those items are actually recolors either - some of them are brand new (or at least new to players)

[sharp tendon]

2 h axe looks amazing we need to see where we can get them from

[smoky kayak]

yeah I think you're right

[dusty summit]

ye it's Trollbane from ZA

the "extra" chest

[sharp tendon]

Trollbane is not obtainable

[smoky kayak]

the original isn't, but the reforged version is

drops from prisoner caches in the new(er) version of ZA

[dusty summit]

the prisoner cache after third boss iirc

[smoky kayak]

a couple different lootables
https://www.wowhead.com/item=69592/reforged-trollbane

the green version isn't in game atm; might never be for all we know

[sharp tendon]

Hmm its kina small

Il like big weapons more

[dusty summit]

same, unfortunately that doesn't increase our range tho

[zealous rampart]

yeah small versions are mostly for fury

to make dual wield more reasonable

[latent moss]

[ornate eagle]

@hazy flower

im checking dht29 log
youre topping
this is your dmg

https://i.imgur.com/Y1ow0B9.png

[hazy flower]

check

all 3 logs

bro

[ornate eagle]

meanwhile mine

https://i.imgur.com/eeSQKUo.png

[hazy flower]

only 1 was scuffed

where we pulled keepers

wait how did u do no damage to blossoms at all

lol

[ornate eagle]

i played jugg

😏

[hazy flower]

cringe build

[ornate eagle]

this is our blossom pull

[hazy flower]

still surprising

is this tyra

[ornate eagle]

ye

i beat the shadowpriest on all bosses

and gapped everyone pre-SR on last boss

kinda weird...

[ornate eagle]

(which is why we depleted by 15sec)

[hazy flower]

this is our blossom pull

except it wasnt just blossoms

lets just say I havent seen tank play it that way

[ornate eagle]

nightmare dweller

[hazy flower]

yes

[ornate eagle]

wtf did you do

[hazy flower]

I can link the vod

[ornate eagle]

chain it all the way down or smth

[hazy flower]

kind of

wait

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2101868718?t=03h37m56s

[ornate eagle]

how did the blossoms have so much hp

that you yourself did more blossom dmg than my entire group combined?

[hazy flower]

forti vs tyra?

idk

more blossoms too

[ornate eagle]

its 30% hp

[hazy flower]

we took 3 extra blossoms

[ornate eagle]

not 200%

[hazy flower]

we caged 1 keeper

and 1 got sleepwalked

and then pulled everything down

[quasi torrent]

any dam you did before passing keepers is nullified

cause their healing aura is always active

[carmine fossil]

dont you hate it when somene does less than a third of your damage in a m+ lol

[rare kite]

that's what you get for playing with a mage

[carmine fossil]

they were a evoker.. got out damaged by everyone including the holy paladin

[rare kite]

was it an augmentation evoker? coz if so the meters don't show their actual damage

[carmine fossil]

i have no clue what a augmentation evoker is

im fairly new to theg ame

[rare kite]

basically it's a spec that buffs other classes, most of their damage comes from giving other people buffs

[carmine fossil]

ahh maybe?

i noticed i was doing more damage than usual

[rare kite]

then ye it's very likely

[carmine fossil]

but im also not used to being the top damage dealer.. im usually bottom

just hit 470 last night

and two keys bricked.. great

[hazy flower]

u can outrange it tho or something idk looking at the vod rn

generally it was kill dryad -> chain

[quasi torrent]

u have the log

give the log

[hazy flower]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ych6drVj41gmtW9y#fight=1&type=damage-done

[quasi torrent]

they did heal for just 8.6m

and you did 226m to blossoms

[hazy flower]

ye

that's super piss

9m heal

[bleak fog]

Just got a Pip's (483) is that anything you would use over Augury (489) and a Moto (483) in M+?

[hazy flower]

esp when we're doing 600k dps a sec in pack both of us

[quasi torrent]

all i was saying is, its very likely they do heal a chunk when doing the skip

cause moving the keepers away

is a bit cringe

and may not be far enough etc.

[hazy flower]

but blossoms dont really do anything

so even if it heals

it's irrelevant as long as it dies before the boss

(bursting)

[quasi torrent]

that was not the point tho

[hazy flower]

ye

ik

[quasi torrent]

like yeah they dont really matter

if they never die last

[hazy flower]

ye

tho how's it with range comps

isnt it a bit annoying maybe

and losing some dam

with melee comp it's super whatever

[quasi torrent]

ye the ground shit

is kinda annoying

[hazy flower]

@ornate eagle I checked both of my 29 logs where the keepers didnt heal fuckton and you guys just somehow must've pulled something else since you did no damage to blossoms at all

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8cayPhBZ3RkwzWVj#fight=1&type=damage-done

another

did your tank just do some troll route or xd

[cloud dawn]

jugg feels better this season than bs change my mind

[boreal quartz]

single bs is king

[frigid lava]

Not sure how drunk I was last night.. but my io increased

[olive terrace]

is it normal to overcap rage quite a bit? cant seem to spend it all in time

[hazy flower]

if you're overcapping rage

you're playing it right

that's how it is right now

the only way you might feel some rage management if you use IP defensively

you ignore rage and just blast prio at all times (Or well until execute)

[olive terrace]

i see, thank you!

[past zephyr]

i can def hit dummies high with jugg than bs by 100k more

so agreed

[boreal quartz]

cuz you will spam execute on them for 15 mins

[quasi torrent]

exedoot

[boreal quartz]

@finite mantle ?!

[gleaming cosmos]

I missed season one is there any cool trinkets we'd use?

[boreal quartz]

grieftorch is funny

storm eater's boon isnt a str trinket but kinda cool

whispering incarnate icon is the most OP statstick to ever exist (idk tbh)

[gaunt owl]

current state its gonna be Icon and Brand

but they gonna tune some trinket

some are really bad in comparison

[hazy flower]

puzzle box

was good with double bladestorm

not sure how's it gonna be in season 4 with the fact that blademasters probably off the hook and we have so much more trinket options

in m+

[gaunt owl]

dont make people go padding build again

unethical gaming

but puzzlebox on strong pull gonna blast

[wispy grove]

will lego proc erranog's ring from s1? ring proc's off fire damage and the axe is shadowflame

[boreal quartz]

ye

[gaunt owl]

shadowflam is 50% shadow and 50% fire dmg

[wispy grove]

gotcha

[warped ether]

My first prio is beacon

That shit is gonna hit for 2 mil minimum

[gaunt owl]

dont wanna burst your bubble

but its a shit trinket

[short spear]

is it bad in dungeons too? fated is kinda a M+ season

seems like a fun trinket

[gaunt owl]

for some prio dmg its gonna be ok

[short spear]

i guess for on use raw damage trinkets the shit like grieftorch just beats it i bet

[sharp tendon]

i would never buy beacon with dinnar lol

what a waist

[wild spindle]

with the upcoming season when were gonna be using cleave how does our prio looks like during sweeping strikes? do we still prio MS and just use cleave when ms is off cd?

[sharp tendon]

u prob can buy like 3 items

leggo item is 1 cloak from sar is second and a tricket

[rare kite]

grieftorch not that good either(unless people die ofc)

[short spear]

i thought i remembered seeing people get huge amounts of damage in keys for overall

[clever crag]

Tf is a dinnar

[copper swan]

s4 money

to buy trinkets/leg upgrade/mogs

[clever crag]

Oh not the lego itself tho

[copper swan]

it's called bullion for df if i'm correct

[short spear]

thats a dumb name for a currency lol

[ornate eagle]

Literal standard route

Both dryads + 4 flowers + flowers behind the house

[finite mantle]

I’m coming to get you (running 100 mph)

[warped ether]

I agree but those moments where you just kill a mob out of nowhere makes it worth for me

[frigid lava]

dinnar sounds like DJT stock

[untold aspen]

what trinkets would you use in m+ on ptr for arms warrior ?
i am using puzzle box + augury for the double ring combo

[shadow ibex]

cant wait for leggo axe + box + sarketh beacon

17 cast bars lets gooooo

[frigid lava]

at the first boss AA pull

[copper swan]

fuck on uses

[frigid lava]

isn't puzzle box cast too?

i forget

[shadow ibex]

its pretty tiny cast

and u auto during it

and we covered with avatar BS anyway but in raid when u didnt have avatar BS u just used during a GCD

since u can use items during an ability GCD

[frigid lava]

I know I used the box in s1 but not a fan of long cd gigs

[shadow ibex]

should be pretty gr8 in s4 with super fast kill times

3 min CD get one on pull one in execute

[rare kite]

one on use is fine, two is cursed af

[shadow ibex]

i just dont wanna use fuckin anvil again

im assuming bosses gonna be falling over fast in s4 so maybe they rework it to get full value cuz it takes time to stack it up

[frigid lava]

high 2nd stats fury will be insane

[boreal quartz]

[rare kite]

he doesn't know

fury definetely going to be insane 🙂

[gaunt owl]

Fury is where it belongs

[shadow ibex]

fury gonna have x2 cantrip weapons

surely will be good

thats 100% more than arms has

[gaunt owl]

2x0 is still 0

[shadow ibex]

one spec will be twiddling their thumbs for 9 weeks until aura buffs

flip a coin which will it be

[prisma heart]

u cannot run from this trink in s4. everyones first dinar goes to this

[astral yarrow]

I also hate legendary axe

[shadow ibex]

oh yea? now its a hero spec

https://tenor.com/view/alvin-and-the-chipmunks-alvin-whoops-my-bad-oops-gif-15512287650458333097

[astral yarrow]

Yeah let’s double down on casting melee 👍

[gaunt owl]

it happend

because some people couldnt stop talking about fucking channel ability

i wanna channel my foot up their asses

[shadow ibex]

the warrior needs to think tactifully in order to use their hero spec ability ok

just dont look at its 30 second cooldown and you'll deal the same dmg as any other spec while using your big hannibal the great tactical 4d chess mind to determine when to use ur cool button

[gaunt owl]

worst part is they gonna come in this channel and asks

where or when do i use it

masterfully 2head

[shadow ibex]

there's ways to go around the root not being shit. give us a huge DR

make the dmg u take during it be taken over X amount of seconds instead of insta

no just give you knock back immunity because this class doesn't have ways to cheese them anyway right

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-jerry-mouse-oh-really-what-did-you-say-gif-4567866740137164332

[gaunt owl]

if you put DR on that

you not gonna use it to do dmg after

[shadow ibex]

bro if i could demolish a dream rend and take nothing

i would feel like such a gamer

thats masterful use, not waiting until ol buddy finishes his firestorm so i can press my very hard hitting ability button

[hazy flower]

give us increased range

[gaunt owl]

NO and NO

[shadow ibex]

i also think we should be able to leap during bladestorm

[latent moss]

the design is flawed

if it was on a long cd sure

but on a 30s cd

how do you use it during dream rend

for example

you cant

[gaunt owl]

its only 2 seconds and probably hasted

[shadow ibex]

if is only 2 seconds and probably hasted

why root to begin with

thats the thing

[prisma heart]

press bladestorm while bladestorming to go into helicopter mode

[shadow ibex]

if they make it so fast its unnoticable, why have it to begin with

thats why i dont think it will be hasted

and if it is, then idk they are dumber than a bag of rocks

because at that point the root is only there because someone said its cool

[gaunt owl]

thats why you should let us do the thinking

[shadow ibex]

if its hasted and 2 seconds, the CC immunity and such is almost pointless

at that point its sticking to your guns to spite the players

[gaunt owl]

you dont have CC immunity during it

only unmovable

[shadow ibex]

i rlly dont think it'll be hasted because of that, otherwise you just kill your own arguement

[gaunt owl]

a channel thats not hasted

[shadow ibex]

ur immune to CC

[gaunt owl]

gonna scale poorly

immune to stun

[shadow ibex]

well stuns at least

thats a majority of CC effects

[gaunt owl]

so you can be poly

cyclone

plenty of other nasty effect

[shadow ibex]

regardless, if you haste that the immunity and move immunity is pointless

because its what, a 1 sec immunity?

[gaunt owl]

they just make it so you cant be easily stopped

doing it

because most instant form of CC are stun

[shadow ibex]

thats why i dont think it will be, because otherwise blizz is just taking any argument for the root out at the knees

[gaunt owl]

you dont know how hasted works right ?

you would need more than 100% haste to have 1 sec

[shadow ibex]

i know how hasted works

i dont think it will be because otherwise whatever weird cc immunity loses value

and if its so hasted u dont notice the root/immunities, you have to ask why even have it to begin with

[gaunt owl]

do you use bladestorm for the CC immunity ?

you dont really care about it

its just QOL

[shadow ibex]

depends on the content

[gaunt owl]

thats what you dont understand

[latent moss]

hmm akcshually on tree boss in wcm

[shadow ibex]

u use BS for cc immunity not dmg depending on content

[gaunt owl]

33% chance to be targeted

[shadow ibex]

i.e pvp

[gaunt owl]

nobody cares about pvp

[latent moss]

still in high enough keys where living it is hard im pretty sure u save it

[gaunt owl]

they dont design stuff around that

[shadow ibex]

well they gave us stun immunity on an ability

so

[latent moss]

then again i havent done a 29+ wcm so idk

[shadow ibex]

X to doubt